IRC log for #koha, 2014-08-29

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00:01 dcook Hmm, these scones are sweeter than I'd hoped :/
00:01 * dcook isn't even sure there are scones in Canada..
00:01 bag dcook: there are scones in Canada
00:02 dcook Are they sweet or savoury?
00:02 * dcook misses bagels
00:02 cjh scones should be cheesey and buttery.
00:02 dcook There were maybe 6 bagels in the entire supermarket today. Not good.
00:02 cjh mmhhmmm grilled cheese scones.
00:02 dcook cjh: That sounds amazing
00:03 dcook I don't even know what I'm eating. It says they're scones, but they're sweet and kind of doughy. :/
00:03 cjh a bakery near work makes the best cheese scones and they butter then grill/toast them, best breakfast.
00:03 bag the only place to get bagels is in NYC - the rest aren't bagels
00:03 cjh dcook: not scones :(
00:03 bag :)
00:03 dcook bag: what about montreal bagels?
00:04 * dcook has never had montreal or NYC bagels
00:04 bag nope I had those - decent better than most
00:04 bag but not NYC bagels
00:04 bag H&M bagels best in the world
00:04 dcook Really need to visit NYC for longer than an hour next time..
00:04 dcook cjh: I'm going to go to that place!
00:04 bag HA H&H not H&M
00:04 bag bag--
00:04 huginn bag: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
00:04 dcook haha
00:05 dcook bag: My first thought was bagels in H&M :p
00:05 bag[…]iewCategories.asp
00:06 * dcook drools
00:06 dcook bag: That looks amazing
00:06 dcook Pricey, but amazing
00:06 dcook Although considering how much I pay for soft pretzels here...
00:07 dcook I miss Auntie Anne's
00:07 dcook Jalapeno pretzels. Yumm.
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00:53 dcook I think we've talked about this before but "street type" in the patron screen is weird
00:54 dcook At least in North America and Oceania
00:54 eythian I don't quite understand the point
00:54 eythian except to have a controlled vocab for "street", "road", etc.
00:54 eythian which seems like a lot of code for next to no gain
00:54 dcook Agreed
00:54 dcook I think it might be a French thing?
00:55 eythian maybe
00:55 eythian All I know is "Rue" :)
00:55 dcook Like "28 Rue Jules Ferry"
00:55 dcook Hmm, apparently 28 is actually boulevard..
00:56 dcook I think all I know is Rue as well
00:56 dcook I think Avenue might be the same
00:56 dcook Ouais, les rues, les avenues, les boulevards
00:56 dcook Don't know about other types of roads there
00:57 dcook What was that video you shared about internationalization, eythian?
00:57 dcook I think that comes up again :p
00:57 dcook But yeah... even then
00:57 dcook Why have a drop down?
00:57 dcook Why not just have it as part of one box?
00:57 eythian
00:58 dcook That's the one
00:58 eythian yeah
00:58 dcook i18n?
00:58 dcook i18n is
00:58 dcook i18n?
00:58 wahanui i18n is
00:59 dcook Oh no, I'm watching it again...don't do it, dcook. Despair!
00:59 eythian heh
00:59 * dcook instead looks to see how many gigabytes of comics he has moved onto his new sd card
01:00 dcook Almost 3GB? Ahh, that's because I didn't put all of them on in the first place..
01:00 dcook 27 GB remain available... :D
01:04 eythian @wunder nzwn
01:04 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on August 29, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Falling).
01:04 eythian hmm, >10°, haven't seen that for a little while
01:05 dcook When is winter supposed to end again?
01:05 dcook I think this is only my second August here
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03:33 dcook I can't believe I'm about to say this...
03:33 dcook But the 338$a could actually be useful
03:33 dcook Especially when it says "online resource"
03:33 eythian @marc 338
03:33 huginn eythian: unknown tag 338
03:33 dcook scandal
03:33 dcook It's a RDA tag
03:33 eythian dcook: huginn says no
03:33 dcook huginn is behind the times, I guess
03:33 huginn dcook: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
03:33 dcook lolz
03:33 eythian haha
03:34 dcook Ok, I actually laughed so much I squeaked a bit
03:34 dcook good one, huginn
03:37 dcook Hmm...
03:37 dcook Apparently 338$b is a code
03:37 dcook But it looks like OCLC just uses English in 338$a and doesn't use the 338$b
03:38 dcook And the 338$a of "online resource" is equivalent to the 007/00 = c and 007/01 = r
03:38 dcook I love how both of those options are not that great for expressing "hey, this record is for an online journal article"
03:39 eythian that whole fixed-width fields way of doing things is terribad.
03:40 dcook Totes
03:40 dcook Although variable-width fields with English is also horrible
03:40 dcook MARC, you're bad and you should feel bad.
03:40 eythian a standardised vocab perhaps is what's needed.
03:40 eythian so it can be added to when required
03:41 dcook[…]t/rdacarrier.html
03:41 eythian yeah, that's a step in the less wrong direction I guess.
03:41 dcook I suppose standardized English wouldn't be too bad
03:42 dcook As at least you could hopefully reliably translate it
03:42 dcook But...that's yeah...not good still
03:42 eythian but it's just mimicing the contraints caused by doing wrong in the first place.
03:42 eythian I mean, if it were XML-y, you would say in your schema what values could go in there, and you'd add <computer /> <online /> <pdf /> or whatever to describe things.
03:43 eythian that's a controlled but flexible vocab
03:43 dcook Hmm
03:43 dcook Phone
03:43 eythian what the hell is a microopaque, too.
03:44 eythian oh, it's like a microfiche, but ... opaque
04:08 dcook Weiiird
04:15 dcook ++ to whoever first mentioned SSH tunneling to me
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04:21 eythian Bug 12849 is an easy signoff for anyone wanting this...
04:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12849 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Sending a list has malformed links
04:28 dcook Maybe after I take care of a few things
04:28 dcook Ooo, like lunch..
04:29 eythian no, it's beer o'clock now
04:29 * eythian &
04:32 dcook So I went to the beer store last night to get 6 but left with 12
04:32 dcook There were 2 sales!
04:32 dcook Sorry, left with 18
04:33 * dcook is looking forward to beer o'clock..
04:48 dcook Oh, postgres command-line. You take some getting used to every time I use you.
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05:09 dcook heya cait
05:10 cait heya
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06:35 * magnuse waves
06:41 * cait waves
06:41 cait bbiab
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06:45 magnuse kia ora Viktor!
06:45 Viktor kia ora magnuse
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06:49 reiveune hello
06:49 wahanui bidet, reiveune
06:49 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:49 magnuse @wunder boo
06:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 29, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
06:49 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 18.0°C (8:49 AM CEST on August 29, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:49 reiveune salut magnuse dcook kathryn  & everybodu
06:50 magnuse @wunder halmstad
06:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Grötvik, Halmstad, Halmstad, Sweden is 13.3°C (8:47 AM CEST on August 29, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
06:50 reiveune s/everybodu/everybody/
07:08 dcook hey reiveune
07:08 wahanui i heard reiveune was working for biblibre
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07:18 Joubu Good morning
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07:41 cait morning #koha
07:44 ashimema morning
07:54 magnuse hiya cait and ashimema
07:54 magnuse ...and Joubu
07:55 dcook happy weekend all!
07:58 * magnuse is slightly envious of dcook
08:03 cait heh
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08:30 cait hm
08:30 cait the bywtater demo doesn't have the ajax circ
08:30 drojf good morning #koha
08:31 drojf good morning cait :)
08:31 cait magnuse: is yours up to date?
08:31 cait morning drojf :)
08:31 cait are you studying? :)
08:31 Joubu cait: sandboxes are ;)
08:31 cait Joubu: i need a link to show ajax search t the coworkers - sandboxes go away :)
08:33 cait Joubu: but for testing anytime!
08:34 Joubu cait: you just need to request an install against master
08:35 cait I know, i will explain that another time :)
08:35 Joubu cait: otherwise, sandbox6 is frozen:[…]borrowernumber=22
08:36 Joubu and the ajax circ is in it
08:36 magnuse cait: not sure, i think there is a problem with the updates tht i have not had the time to look into
08:36 Joubu (test for the utf8 patches)
08:36 cait :)
08:38 cait Joubu: do you have libraries using 3.16 yet?
08:38 cait equinox demo is old too :(
08:38 Joubu cait: not yet, but soon
08:40 cait Joubu: similar here, so trying to figure out where we could run into problems :)
08:42 Joubu They need 3.16 for the MTT (they want to sent sms for odue, etc.)
08:46 cait Joubu: makes sense
08:46 cait we have  a test installation now on 3.16.2
08:46 cait i am a bitnervous about the ajax cric in 3.16.3
08:47 cait so wanted to show them but hard to find one!
08:50 cait hm there is a comment on the release notes
08:50 cait[…]eleased/#comments
09:07 ashimema hmm..
09:08 ashimema that's interesting.
09:08 ashimema that scary customer we have cait.. they're currently testing 3.16.3
09:08 ashimema for the ajax circ specifically..
09:08 ashimema I'll let you know the resutls.
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12:23 tcohen morning!
12:23 wahanui somebody said morning was a state of the cait
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12:35 tcohen @seen marclr
12:35 huginn tcohen: I have not seen marclr.
12:35 tcohen @seen marcelr
12:35 huginn tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 8 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <marcelr> it never stop ;)
12:35 tcohen #koha: does anyone know in what conditions one would query more than one zebra server?
12:37 magnuse nops
12:37 magnuse nope
12:38 cait tcohen: hm federated search?
12:38 wahanui well, federated search is a funny term though. It seems to me that can mean a few things.
12:38 cait tcohen: are you referring to the code in
12:39 tcohen ah, yes
12:39 cait i thin, but might be wrong
12:39 cait that might be part of the old pazpar2 implementation
12:39 cait gmcharlt or rangi might know more
12:39 tcohen it seems that federated search is used through pazpar2, right?
12:39 cait that's what i thought - but hter might have been another feature too
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12:52 jcamins tcohen: premature abstraction.
12:53 ashimema is it just me or is git fantastically slow again today?
12:53 tcohen ashimema: not my fault this time
12:53 jcamins Well... I suppose you could actually configure multiple servers and it might work.
12:53 jcamins But I don't know of anyone doing that.
12:54 ashimema hehe.. never said it was tcohen ;)
12:54 oleonard I heard Kandinsky suffered from premature abstraction too, poor guy.
12:54 tcohen ashimema: last time were my jenkins nodes, presumably
12:54 tcohen oleonard++
12:54 tcohen heh
12:54 ashimema oh. yeah.. of course
12:55 jcamins oleonard: lol
12:55 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "jcamins: got this so far, working :-D" (72 lines) at
12:56 * jcamins checks his watch.
12:56 tcohen benadryl?
12:56 * cait is confused
12:57 tcohen aren't we all cait?
12:57 tcohen looking for answers
12:57 tcohen because we cannot bare with the fact
12:57 tcohen we are all gona die?
12:59 ashimema oh.. you implementing the much fabled zebra faceting tcohen ?
12:59 ashimema That'd be awesome
13:00 * tcohen is happy to say is fully functional, already
13:01 ashimema awesome..
13:01 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema
13:02 ashimema I seem to be paying into that jar allot lately
13:02 * ashimema blames tcohen
13:02 tcohen can we just remove grs1 for 3.18?
13:02 tcohen :-P
13:03 oleonard nengard: Did you figure out your ebook js question yesterday?
13:03 cait awesome!
13:03 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, cait
13:03 cait hehe
13:03 ashimema tcohen: I can't actually remember what date we agreed to on grs1 removal.. but it can't come soon enough in my hunble opinion ;)
13:04 tcohen we didn't set a date
13:04 cait oleonard: i figured out someting with her - but it looked a little weird. it seems location is an id, rather than a class - coudl that be a reason why jquery only changes the first it finds instead of all of them?
13:05 nengard yes oleonard
13:05 wahanui i heard oleonard was still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
13:05 oleonard cait: If there are duplicate ids on the page that's not good
13:05 cait when i did span[id='location'] it changed all occcurences
13:05 cait but that's probably a bit of a hack
13:06 cait Joubu++ # reworking bug 12602
13:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12602 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Claim counter in serials
13:06 jcamins tcohen: actually, I think the cat is back upstate.
13:06 ashimema id's should be unique.. that's their point
13:07 cait ashimema: agreed, but we have one for every entry on the result list...
13:07 cait and it looked like jquery didn't like that
13:07 tcohen :D
13:07 ashimema yuk.. they should be classes then!
13:07 jcamins Looks like that should be a class.
13:07 cait lol
13:07 cait i said that!
13:07 cait check the logs from yesterday :)
13:07 ashimema bug it, patch it, resolve it!
13:07 Joubu cait: it's more bug 5342 than 12602... But yes, patch submited!
13:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5342 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Serial claiming improvements
13:08 cait )
13:08 cait :)
13:08 Joubu I hope I won't rebase it for 2 years...
13:09 oleonard There's no duplicate id validation error from the bootstrap search results page
13:10 cait oleonard: i am nto sure it was custom - could you check the link she send with the later?
13:10 Joubu cait: I created a new bug for the <order> tag in claim notices too. Bug 12851: this one is major but nobody opened a bug, so maybe nobody uses this ft...
13:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12851 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , order tags are not removed on claiming serials/orders
13:10 cait Joubu: i think i had it filed somewhere, but probably with other complaints about the letters
13:11 cait and looong ago
13:11 cait hm maybe it was in one of the bugs
13:11 cait that you looked at
13:12 Joubu yes, 5347 maybe
13:12 cait i think you are right
13:12 cait have you seen bug 12505?
13:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12505 normal, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, Needs Signoff , Variable aqorders.listprice from 'Tools' - 'Notices and Slips' Does not work
13:13 cait oleonard: i think in order to see the locations in result list you need to switch some sysprefs - we are not using that so far
13:13 Joubu I will take a look
13:16 nengard oleonard  OpacItemLocation
13:16 nengard change it to 'location'
13:16 wahanui nengard: that doesn't look right
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13:17 oleonard Poor wahanui
13:17 wahanui Will he ever win?
13:17 oleonard :D
13:20 nengard HA
13:22 cait wahanui botsnack cookie
13:22 wahanui :)
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13:35 cait Joubu: gst rewrite page updated - i didn't want the use cases to get lost
13:36 Joubu cait: "Not all of this can or should be covered with this rewrite", hum... a "not" is missing isn't it?
13:37 Joubu ok...
13:37 Joubu the not is written...
13:37 Joubu my eyes need to be check
13:37 Joubu ed
13:37 cait heh sorry
13:37 cait i didn't try to scare you
13:38 cait but it seemed the best place to put it right now
13:38 Joubu cait: yes, it is!
13:38 cait trying to understand what the libraries need
13:39 Joubu cait: The library uses Koha for the acq?
13:49 cait we have some that use it
13:49 cait but for tax i have asked someone at another library
13:50 cait i think the problem is when you want to integrate your ILS with a financial system
13:50 cait then the requirements start to change
13:50 cait or when you use only Koha and need to have all relevante data in the ILS
14:14 ashimema cait..
14:14 ashimema I worked out why the signoff addressed the wrong bug..
14:15 ashimema they used one sandbox to test the patch.. and then a completely different one to sign it off on..
14:15 ashimema hmmm.. that's odd though..
14:15 ashimema I'm gonna take a look through the code..
14:15 ashimema I don't think it should allow that to happen..
14:15 ashimema Joubu.. any thoughts?
14:16 cait ashimema: would explain it - I will fix it later, don't worry about it too much
14:16 Joubu ashimema: Are your sandboxes up-to-date?
14:16 Joubu If no, it's possible
14:17 Joubu If yes, they shouldn't.
14:17 Joubu If yes, others bugs comming...
14:17 ashimema hmm..
14:17 ashimema they appear up to date to me.
14:17 ashimema git://
14:18 ashimema tracking master..
14:18 ashimema mine are 2 patches ahead.. due to my multi-tenancy stuff..
14:18 ashimema but I don't 'believe' that should affect this..
14:18 Joubu ashimema:[…]20be6b3dc03050ec4
14:19 ashimema I'll have a delve in the code
14:19 Joubu +      You want to sign off patches from bug [% bznumber_needed %] but it seems that patches applied are from bug [% bznumber_applied %].
14:19 Joubu It seems to be done
14:19 Joubu but it means nothing :)
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14:22 ashimema I see..
14:22 ashimema just trying to find the underlying code for that.. as that's obs just a template update
14:25 ashimema ahh..
14:25 ashimema I've found the issue..
14:25 ashimema it's in my multi-tenancy patch..
14:25 ashimema I haven't applied it to signoffs yet..
14:25 ashimema pants.
14:31 ashimema sorted..
14:31 ashimema was actualyl a typo in my multi patch..
14:31 ashimema ack.. I missed it in my testing as it works perfectly for sandbox 1.. it just fails for the others..
14:32 ashimema thanks for the heads up cait.
14:32 ashimema thanksuflly.. there's only ever been this one signoff via our sandboxes..
14:33 cait mroe will come
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14:38 ashimema fixed on all five now.
14:38 ashimema sorted.
14:38 ashimema sorry about that.. :$
14:38 ashimema embarassed I missed it.
14:39 ashimema Gave me an excuse to look a tthe stats again though..
14:39 ashimema 10 new users (outside ptfs and our customers) in the last 10 days.. that's awesome!
14:39 ashimema and on a variety of sandboxes.. which is also cool..
14:40 ashimema though seems people don't like sandbox2..
14:40 ashimema 0, 1, 3 and 4 all get pretty good use.. but 2 hasn't had anyone use it yet :0
14:40 * ashimema feels like he's talking to himself now
14:40 gmcharlt @monologue
14:40 huginn gmcharlt: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
14:40 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
14:41 gmcharlt ...
14:41 ashimema @monologue
14:41 huginn ashimema: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
14:41 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
14:41 ashimema lol
14:44 ashimema joubu..
14:44 ashimema care to cast an eye over my multi-tenancy patches for the sandboxes?[…]rib/commits/multi
14:45 ashimema at some point I'd quite like to get them included so I can start tracking the main repo properly again.
14:48 cait bye all :) have a nice weekend!
14:49 Joubu ashimema: looks good. I need to do some git grep to be sure you didn't forget 1 occurrence.
14:49 Joubu But if it works on yours, it will work on ours :)
14:50 ashimema certainly..  that's obviously.
14:50 ashimema Only issue I can see is the requirement to add a bit to the config for you guys..
14:50 Joubu ashimema: It would be good to provide an sql query to update the table structure
14:50 Joubu ashimema: maybe just in the commit msg
14:51 ashimema I'de been meaning to make it completely backward compatable but hadn'g gotten around to it yet.
14:51 ashimema Yeah.. tha'ts a good idea.
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14:55 Joubu ashimema: be careful, your last patch is wrong!
14:55 Joubu my $tempfile = $conf->{sandbox}{tempfile};
14:55 Joubu +my $signfile = $conf->{signoff}{tempfile};
14:55 Joubu ok... no
14:55 Joubu erk
14:56 Joubu don't remember this code actually
14:57 ashimema that's some of the multi-tenant additions.. fixes the issue we just came accross..
14:57 ashimema my config.yaml looks differnt to yours..
14:57 Joubu yep, understood
14:57 Joubu ashimema: did you occur problem on sending email?
14:58 ashimema my config.yaml adds:
14:58 ashimema sandbox:
14:58 ashimema tempfile: sandbox
14:58 ashimema signoff:
14:58 ashimema tempfile: signoff
14:58 ashimema to make 'per instance' versions of the temp files
14:58 ashimema our mails 'seem' to send fine
14:58 ashimema or at least, no-ones complained yet ;)
14:58 Joubu ashimema: yes, but I thought you are using the same file. But I saw the difference on c/p the line on the channel
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14:59 tgoat morning everyone :)
14:59 ashimema morning tgoat
14:59 ashimema sorry Joubu.. I don't follow.
15:00 tgoat morning ashimema :)
15:00 ashimema it's evening here I'm afraid mate.. nearly weekend :)
15:00 Joubu ashimema: forget :) I am tired
15:00 ashimema no worries.
15:00 tgoat thoguth I was in the bywater chanel but its good to say good morning to the koha channel .. agreed!?
15:00 ashimema Yeah.. in the patch set's current form.. they'll break your sandbox config
15:01 ashimema it's certianly good to say hi to '#koha ;)
15:01 tgoat sorry ashimema .. australia or NZ?
15:01 ashimema uk make
15:01 tgoat roget that .. time for a few pints huh?
15:01 ashimema haha..
15:01 ashimema another hour then i's beer o'clokc yeah.
15:01 Joubu ashimema: all looks good, it would be better to add 2,3 lines in the commit msg to highlight the changes: new DB field + 2 new entries in the config file. It would be perfect :)
15:02 ashimema cool.. I'll do a followup with those added bits..
15:02 tgoat that’s my favorite time .. wife and kids woind down adn then I can think about me for a little bit :) have a great weekend!
15:02 ashimema then submit a pull request?
15:03 Joubu ashimema: drop me an email when it's done. That should be enough
15:03 ashimema :)
15:03 ashimema cheer Joubu
15:04 Joubu ashimema: good to see someone else commit in this repo :)
15:04 ashimema It'll be nice to make it a bit of a team effort :)
15:05 ashimema it's a great addition to the community
15:07 reiveune bye
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15:21 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:27 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
15:27 ashimema Hi Joubu.
15:27 ashimema I've added that last couple of commit now..
15:27 ashimema hopefully they make sense.
15:28 ashimema it's the commit message in number four that's the most important one.
15:28 ashimema just found a rather random side effect of how we upload to bz though..  we change the unix users global git config.. so I just pushed as some complete random to our public git repo..
15:29 ashimema no matter.. author attribution remains right.. github jus displays it funny ;)
15:49 Joubu ashimema: ok great. Will try to update the remote next week
15:49 Joubu have a good week-end #koha!
15:49 ashimema awesome.. Thanks Joubu
15:50 ashimema and have an excellent weekend to you too mate :)
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16:34 oleonard So I guess the log might show deletions if  CataloguingLog were turned on, but  CataloguingLog says not to turn it on or you'll be sorry.
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18:19 drojf good evening #koha
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18:45 cait hi #koha
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19:54 wnickc hi cait
19:54 cait hi wnickc :)
19:58 wnickc ho was your day?
19:59 wnickc how
19:59 cait it was nice thank you, and yours?
19:59 wnickc had to check time difference there for correct question
19:59 wnickc cataloging cataloging cataloging
19:59 cait ah
19:59 cait yes, it's about 10 pm here now
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20:01 wnickc 3VTKI799205465
20:01 wnickc oops
20:01 wnickc wrong window
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23:28 tcohen hi
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