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ashimema_zzzzz |
Hi rangi.. |
| 05:34 |
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ashimema_zzzzz |
indeed.. i was more thinking I like the pull request workflow, than specifically tying it to github.. ;) I agree with all you say there.. |
| 05:35 |
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ashimema_zzzzz |
and i did say that our workflow work.. so lets not break it in the original comment.. |
| 05:36 |
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ashimema_zzzzz |
my envisages way to make pull requests workflow work, would have indeed included a gerrit or similar middle step for quality control ;) |
| 05:36 |
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ashimema_zzzzz |
I'm not suggesting we jump in any time soon though.. bugzilla works well for us.. just feels a tad dated.. but it works well and has worked well for us for some time and has worked well for many other projects too ;) |
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rangi |
ashimema_zzzzz: yeah, i had a gerrit running at kohacon12 ... its a bit of a steep learning curve for people who want to do sign offs |
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rangi |
gerrit + sandboxes might work |
| 07:00 |
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ashimema |
yeah.. I have to admit my playing with gerrit lead me to thinking it was 'too hard' for your average joe |
| 07:01 |
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ashimema |
i'de like to see one of the open source github'ish ones out there include some gerrit like features.. |
| 07:01 |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
i wonder if gitorious are working on that |
| 07:03 |
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ashimema |
would be interesting to find out. |
| 07:04 |
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ashimema |
it's gitorious that biblibre are using now isn't it? |
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rangi |
might be |
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ashimema |
it's such a shame github isn't open (even more of a shame that they have some other questionable hiring stances). As a product for git github is pretty hard to beat. |
| 07:05 |
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rangi |
i use it for my projects, and mahara use it |
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ashimema |
ah.. githlab is what they're using now. |
| 07:05 |
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ashimema |
https://about.gitlab.com/ |
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rangi |
https://gitorious.org/~ranginu |
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rangi |
it does all the merge requests etc |
| 07:08 |
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rangi |
just missing the status of a patch type idea |
| 07:08 |
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ashimema |
I've had a play with gitorious a few times.. |
| 07:08 |
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rangi |
gitlab looks interestin |
| 07:09 |
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ashimema |
every time i'm more impressed.. though it's development seems to have slowed a bit of late to me? |
| 07:09 |
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ashimema |
gitlab is really interesting. |
| 07:11 |
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ashimema |
in a breif.. very brief.. play, gitlab seems to have the edge over gitorious for me. |
| 07:14 |
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rangi |
ill have to get it running to test it out sometime |
| 07:17 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. |
| 07:17 |
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rangi |
the trick would be migrating |
| 07:17 |
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ashimema |
I'm sure if you asked nicely Joubu/PaulP would give you an account to play with form a user perspective on their one.. |
| 07:17 |
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ashimema |
At the moment I think it's locked down to requireing an account at least.. |
| 07:19 |
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ashimema |
Migration would need a whole community 'go for it'.. technically I imagine it's not too hard.. but getting everyone to switch and agree to the switch.. more so.. |
| 07:19 |
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ashimema |
worth a play though.. I like keeping options open ;) |
| 07:19 |
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ashimema |
aha.. of course.. biblbire do have lots of 'public projects' https://git.biblibre.com/public/projects |
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ashimema |
not sure that worked when I first saw them make the switch |
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rangi |
doesnt seem to be an importer from bugzilla at the moment |
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ashimema |
:( |
| 07:21 |
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rangi |
bugzilla outputs everything as xml |
| 07:21 |
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rangi |
so shouldnt be hard to write one |
| 07:24 |
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ashimema |
right.. it's the weekend here.. I should probably go do weekend stuff with the family |
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rangi |
:) |
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ashimema |
have fun rangi.. nice to chat to you.. we don't often seem to overlap on IRC these days :( |
| 07:30 |
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rangi |
yeah stupid timezones |
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ashimema |
indeed. |
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ashimema |
gitlab is mostly ruby.. wasn't expecting that.. |
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ashimema |
anywho.. I'm ofski before the misses tells me off ;) |
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ashimema |
laters |
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rangi |
cya later :) |
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| 10:57 |
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hasenbear |
hello out there. is it possible to export call numbers for printing with an external program? |
| 10:57 |
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cait |
hmi think you can use a report to do that |
| 10:57 |
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cait |
it would give you an ods spreadsheet, csv or json if you want to automate something |
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cait |
where are you from hasenbear? |
| 10:57 |
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hasenbear |
in germany |
| 10:58 |
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hasenbear |
we've talked before cait, you helped with a problem i had with zebra |
| 10:58 |
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hasenbear |
thanks again for that |
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cait |
ah ok :) |
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cait |
me too |
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cait |
your nick sounded suspicious |
| 10:58 |
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hasenbear |
so. dumb question. how do i do the report? |
| 10:58 |
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hasenbear |
creature of habit :) |
| 10:59 |
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cait |
you can do sql reports with koha |
| 10:59 |
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cait |
you know that you can print labels within koha as well? (just checking) |
| 10:59 |
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cait |
so you'd do something like.... select callnumber from items where ... |
| 10:59 |
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hasenbear |
i know i can but have been having trouble getting it to format just right. |
| 11:00 |
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cait |
i'd suggest taking a look at the reports module |
| 11:00 |
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cait |
are you familiar with sql? |
| 11:00 |
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hasenbear |
since i was advised not to print patron cards on koha i thought i'd just try doing it all externally |
| 11:00 |
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hasenbear |
no unfortunately not. i'm not the admin |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
we don't use the labels modules, so i can not advice much there |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
i think it seems to work well for some |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
but it's a lot to configure and try out to get it right i think |
| 11:01 |
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hasenbear |
i had the patron cards configured (now have less hair) |
| 11:01 |
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hasenbear |
but the pdf keeps crashing |
| 11:01 |
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hasenbear |
so i can't print them out |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
ah |
| 11:02 |
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cait |
maybe diacritics - there are ways to make it work now i think |
| 11:02 |
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hasenbear |
so what would you suggest? |
| 11:02 |
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cait |
there were some problems with utf-8 data in the pdfs in the past |
| 11:02 |
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cait |
hm both ways are ok |
| 11:02 |
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cait |
you need to figure out what works best for you |
| 11:03 |
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hasenbear |
but i have to have access to the sql module to do it externally? |
| 11:03 |
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cait |
ah |
| 11:03 |
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cait |
you can write sql reports within koha |
| 11:03 |
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cait |
you don't need to access the server |
| 11:04 |
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cait |
it all works from the gui |
| 11:04 |
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cait |
maybe try something easy for a start |
| 11:04 |
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hasenbear |
is it something i can read my way into? |
| 11:04 |
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cait |
sure :) |
| 11:04 |
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cait |
so for soomething quick |
| 11:04 |
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cait |
you could do |
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cait |
reports > saved reports > new from sql |
| 11:05 |
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hasenbear |
okay. and that give me.... what does that give me? |
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cait |
a form :) |
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cait |
sec |
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hasenbear |
:) |
| 11:06 |
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cait |
you give it a name |
| 11:06 |
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cait |
and then add soemthing like this in the big field for the sql: |
| 11:06 |
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cait |
select itemcallnumber from items where itemcallnumber is not NULL; |
| 11:06 |
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cait |
get callnumber from all items, where the callnumber is not empty |
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| 11:06 |
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cait |
save and run it |
| 11:06 |
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cait |
some inspiration can be found here |
| 11:06 |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 11:08 |
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hasenbear |
thanks! i'll give that a try and see how far i get. danke dir cait. du bist doch in BW, oder? wir sind dann nicht so weit auseinander. |
| 11:08 |
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cait |
ja :) Konstanz |
| 11:08 |
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cait |
wo bist du? |
| 11:08 |
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aman |
how can i duplicate my koha server.. i mean one server is set fully n customized, the other one, i have installed koha from the bootable koha ubuntu.. Then i tried to dump SQL and import on other pc but the result was not exact |
| 11:08 |
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hasenbear |
nähe würzburg |
| 11:09 |
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hasenbear |
i'll be back if i can't get anywhere with the report. thanks again!! |
| 11:09 |
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cait |
hm dumping the database and reimporting is normally done a lot |
| 11:09 |
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cait |
do the versions match? |
| 11:09 |
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aman |
yes the version match |
| 11:09 |
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cait |
importing a lower version db into a higherversion koha would be ok too - will start the update |
| 11:10 |
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aman |
but do i need to do some pre-requisites before importing sql? |
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aman |
actually the results were quiet different, like the search used to gave different result for the books.. thats wierd |
| 11:11 |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
hard to tell |
| 11:11 |
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cait |
but you will need to reindex |
| 11:11 |
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cait |
the zebra indeses are kept outside of the db - so you import and do a full zebra reindex |
| 11:12 |
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aman |
ok.. and also i need to ask that how can i import patrons? the patrons were uploaded on that pc but even on DB dump, no patrons were imported |
| 11:12 |
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cait |
hmm they would be included if the db dump worked correctly |
| 11:13 |
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cait |
normally you do a csv import when you start out - toold > import patrons - you can download a file there to help get you started |
| 11:14 |
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aman |
then i must be missing some steps surely.. hmm the csv is actually not accessible for me as i m learning koha.. making a trial system.. |
| 11:15 |
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cait |
a full db dump should give you all data and no more migrations needed apart fromrebuilding the indexes |
| 11:15 |
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cait |
i'd start and try to find out what went wrong there or start from scratch |
| 11:15 |
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cait |
but probably i wouldn't feel safe using a database that showed strange behaviour after an import attempt - you don' tknow what might be missing |
| 11:16 |
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aman |
cait.. usually if i have 2 systems with same koha version, can i have the exact copy on DB dump or i need to set library or things prior to DUMP process |
| 11:16 |
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cait |
nope |
| 11:16 |
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cait |
if youwork with dumpms |
| 11:16 |
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cait |
you replace one database with another |
| 11:16 |
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cait |
all settings from the old db don't matter |
| 11:17 |
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cait |
you overwrite it completely |
| 11:17 |
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aman |
ok.. and sir, i m unaware of indexing, how is it done? |
| 11:17 |
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cait |
hm that's command line |
| 11:17 |
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cait |
it depends on how you installed your koha |
| 11:17 |
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aman |
oh.. |
| 11:18 |
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cait |
you run a command, but it differes from a package install to a tarball installation |
| 11:18 |
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aman |
can the error be this only coz i have not indexed.. |
| 11:18 |
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cait |
if it's only search being werid, yes |
| 11:18 |
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aman |
patrons too :( |
| 11:19 |
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cait |
hm they wouldn't be affected by this |
| 11:19 |
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cait |
it's really a bit hard to tell what went wrong |
| 11:19 |
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aman |
ok thats anyways sir |
| 11:19 |
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cait |
but i'd try to start over - not trying to repair |
| 11:19 |
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aman |
thanks |
| 11:19 |
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aman |
i will also prefer same :) |
| 11:19 |
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cait |
why sir? :) |
| 11:20 |
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aman |
sir.. coz u know lot more than me in koha :) |
| 11:22 |
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cait |
we are not so formal here :) |
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| 11:30 |
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bgkriegel |
hola #koha |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
hola bgkriegel :) |
| 11:32 |
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bgkriegel |
hola cait, Buen dÃa para ti :) |
| 11:33 |
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cait |
gracias, buen dÃa para ti |
| 11:33 |
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cait |
i don't know ...how to say too :) |
| 11:33 |
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bgkriegel |
too = también ! |
| 11:33 |
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bgkriegel |
it's longer :) |
| 11:34 |
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cait |
ohright |
| 11:34 |
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cait |
i forgot :) i tihnk i need to look into my spanish books more :) |
| 11:35 |
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cait |
también and tampoco ? |
| 11:36 |
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bgkriegel |
tampoco is 'neither' |
| 11:36 |
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bgkriegel |
:) |
| 11:37 |
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cait |
yep :) |
| 11:38 |
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cait |
i really need to learn more spanish... i already start forgetting what i learned in the courses :( |
| 11:39 |
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bgkriegel |
well, you can try a little here :) |
| 11:42 |
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bgkriegel |
few scrolling_lists now, almost finished |
| 11:54 |
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cait |
thx a lotfor taking this one on:) |
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cait |
hola tcohen, que tal? |
| 11:55 |
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tcohen |
muy bien cait, que tal vos? |
| 11:56 |
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cait |
también |
| 11:56 |
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cait |
can i ssay that? |
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tcohen |
"muy bien, también" I'd say |
| 11:57 |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
right, i think i think too much :) |
| 11:59 |
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tcohen |
how's your saturday starting? |
| 11:59 |
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cait |
sloooow |
| 11:59 |
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cait |
kind of late here too :) |
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cait |
2pm |
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tcohen |
heh |
| 12:01 |
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bgkriegel |
Mmm, only we (argentina) and Costa Rica use 'vos' for you (second singular). Rest of spanish world use 'tu' |
| 12:01 |
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cait |
what are you 2 doing? |
| 12:01 |
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cait |
yeah i learned tu |
| 12:01 |
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cait |
but i think you don't use vosotros? or do you? |
| 12:02 |
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cait |
so many differences between the countries |
| 12:02 |
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tcohen |
"ustedes" |
| 12:02 |
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tcohen |
spain: "vosotros" <-> the rest: "ustedes" |
| 12:02 |
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cait |
ok, so got that right then :) |
| 12:03 |
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tcohen |
yesterday I won't my quarter finals match :-D |
| 12:04 |
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cait |
congrats :) |
| 12:05 |
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bgkriegel |
tcohen: you won or won't ? :) |
| 12:05 |
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bgkriegel |
hi BTW :) |
| 12:05 |
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tcohen |
I won't loose :-P |
| 12:05 |
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tcohen |
nah, I won it |
| 12:05 |
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tcohen |
and hi |
| 12:06 |
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cait |
el moto or la moto? |
| 12:06 |
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tcohen |
la |
| 12:07 |
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cait |
thx |
| 12:07 |
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cait |
I am practicing a bit with duolingo :) |
| 12:08 |
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bgkriegel |
need to try it |
| 12:09 |
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cait |
if you do, let me know - i can add you to my friends list :) |
| 12:10 |
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bgkriegel |
ok :) |
| 12:32 |
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cait |
bgkriegel: what are you working on? |
| 12:35 |
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bgkriegel |
cait: right now, trying to expunge all scrolling_list |
| 12:37 |
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bgkriegel |
cait: could I have an opinion on Bug 11593? |
| 12:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , subtag_registry.sql files contain the same information for each language |
| 12:38 |
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cait |
bgkriegel: i hadn't seen that yet |
| 12:38 |
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cait |
i guess it wouldbe a quicer version of your more thorough patch? |
| 12:38 |
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cait |
but probably not quite as nice |
| 12:38 |
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cait |
oh |
| 12:39 |
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bgkriegel |
some form of this file is needed |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
could this be a first step to removing it totally? |
| 12:39 |
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bgkriegel |
with 11593 we can have only one |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
so this first and then 11593? |
| 12:40 |
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cait |
or better decide on one? |
| 12:40 |
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cait |
sorry if I am not making much sense |
| 12:40 |
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bgkriegel |
no problem :) |
| 12:41 |
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bgkriegel |
it's a matter of discussion, to find a better way |
| 12:43 |
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bgkriegel |
but 11953 is about consolidate into one file |
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| 12:46 |
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bgkriegel |
cait: you need that I look something? |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
i like 11953 because it's abit less invasive |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
changingless code |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
and adopting a method we have already |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
i like the other patchbecauseit will not require people to change an sql file to have more translations |
| 12:48 |
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cait |
rightt now we only support english, french and german.. that's not so nice |
| 12:50 |
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cait |
bgkriegel: you wrote both patches, what are you thinking? |
| 12:51 |
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cait |
i think maybe the easy one first, could even be a bugfix for stable versions... and then 12017? |
| 12:51 |
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bgkriegel |
yes, that could work |
| 12:53 |
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bgkriegel |
algo I have another, 12250, in that I copy the same file for all languages |
| 12:53 |
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cait |
hm i think maybe leave that and go for the one file one instead |
| 12:53 |
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cait |
if that would be ok for you |
| 12:53 |
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bgkriegel |
i'm writing my own incompatibilities :) |
| 12:53 |
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cait |
it looks like :) |
| 12:54 |
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cait |
but then we need a follow up for kurdish to the other, i think? |
| 12:54 |
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cait |
i am getting a little confused here between all the languages :) |
| 12:54 |
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bgkriegel |
yes, of course :) |
| 12:55 |
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bgkriegel |
a common TT dir to share some code between opac/staff would be great |
| 12:55 |
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* cait |
nods |
| 12:55 |
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cait |
i think we have run into the problem quite often now |
| 12:55 |
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cait |
also for javascript libraries |
| 12:57 |
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bgkriegel |
that could help with 12017, and yes, many other things |
| 12:59 |
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bgkriegel |
I'm also waiting for Joubu to review (again) Bug 12061, that is needed to Bug 7939 |
| 12:59 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12061 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , tmpl_process3.pl new features |
| 12:59 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects |
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cait |
bgkriegel: he is on vacation now i am afraid |
| 12:59 |
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cait |
i think 2 more weeks at least |
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bgkriegel |
yep, I know :) No problem |
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cait |
ah tcohen is gone |
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cait |
tcohen++ |
| 13:08 |
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cait |
bgkriegel: have to go to the supermarket... will be back later - have a nice weekend :) |
| 13:08 |
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bgkriegel |
you too :) |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (10:00 PM CEST on August 02, 2014). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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bgkriegel |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 21.1°C (8:50 PM ART on August 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
