IRC log for #koha, 2014-07-25

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03:04 eythian are we actually removing prog for good in master now?
03:04 eythian like now, now?
03:09 mtj hi eythian, yes i think so  :)
03:10 mtj ...from what i recall on irc over the last few weeks
03:10 mtj i think the plan might be to have the prog dirs removed by 3.18?
03:13 eythian OK
03:13 eythian in that case, I'll remove them from the master package builds now then
03:13 eythian (I knew it was impending, just didn't know exactly when.)
03:35 eythian @later tell cait can you add something to the QA scripts that run the test cases without a database available, test cases get through every so often that fail because of that when I have to build packages.
03:35 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
03:47 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
03:47 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
03:48 wizzyrea *ponders*
03:51 dcook ponders?
03:51 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
03:51 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (1:30 PM EST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
03:51 * dcook looks outside
03:51 dcook I suppose it was fairly warm...
03:51 wizzyrea 20!
03:51 * dcook ponders
03:52 dcook I don't think it's 20
03:52 dcook Maybe that's at the airport or something
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07:00 alex_a bonjour
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07:44 cait good morning #koha
07:47 cait @later tell eythian I like the idea, but i am the wrong person to ask that - and not sure how to do it
07:47 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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08:28 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
08:28 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 21.7°C (9:28 AM BST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
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10:24 ztajoli hi to all
10:24 ztajoli as CINECA we want to organize an hack meeting in Italy
10:25 ztajoli More exctly near Milan in Segrate in our building.
10:25 ztajoli[…]re-we-are-located
10:26 ztajoli We have free place in our meeting rooms at 13-14/Nov/2014
10:26 ztajoli and at 20-21/Nov/2014.
10:26 ztajoli Any opinion ?
10:51 Joubu cait: what is the usefulness of the patch you SO on bug 10220?
10:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10220 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, evonne, Signed Off , IDs on checkin columns
10:53 cait What nicole said - Css changes are made easier
10:53 cait you can easily bold content of one columsn etc.
10:54 cait we have done similar on other tables
10:54 cait and it's a first patch
10:54 cait and clean
10:54 cait sorry i have to run and catch a train :)
10:54 cait cya all next week
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12:10 nengard morning all
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12:16 fridolin hie all
12:16 * fridolin releasing 3.14.09
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12:28 tcohen morning!
12:28 wahanui morning is, like, a state of the cait
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12:36 tcohen does anyone have debian testing at hand?
12:42 fridolin tcohen: what means at hand ? I have a Wheezy but no Jessie
12:43 tcohen robin reported that 12596 tests are failing in Jessie
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12:54 tcohen fridolin: it wasn't *taht* bug, my mistake
12:54 tcohen bug 12443
12:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12443 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Initial re-factoring of buildQuery
12:55 fridolin tcohen: oki
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13:04 * Dyrcona wonders if there are any laters for him.
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13:11 tcohen @later tell Dyrcona hi Dyrcona
13:11 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:11 Dyrcona Hi, tcohen!
13:11 Dyrcona ;)
13:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12596: (followup) add reference to bug # and license note <[…]4567cbe79f3387838> / Bug 12596 - Backdating returns with SpecifiyReturnDate causes fines for items not... <[…]a41006e0d54ea6cbd> / Bug 12596 - Unit Test <
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13:15 rhcl oleonard
13:15 wahanui i think oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
13:15 oleonard rhcl
13:17 * oleonard is trying a package install in a new VM, this time on Debian
13:17 oleonard Is there a preferred set of instructions to follow for Wheezy?
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13:27 * Joubu likes the new progress bar on launching the QA tests :)
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13:41 Joubu Does someone plan to SO on bug 11944? ztajoli maybe next week?
13:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
13:42 Joubu tcohen: are you confident on this patch set?
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14:02 ztajoli I try to finish today
14:02 ztajoli The sandboxes could send mail ?
14:05 Joubu ztajoli: yes, I think so
14:06 ztajoli Ok, so i can test list and mail setup for utf-8
14:46 tcohen Joubu: almost
14:46 tcohen will be by monday
14:47 tcohen heh, when I have the time to review anything you did this days
14:48 Joubu tcohen: The patches still need a SO, but they are coming :)
14:49 * tcohen still cannot figure why translatable-templates.t fail inconsistently, only in jenkins
14:50 Joubu tcohen: maybe there is an extra tt file
14:50 tcohen there isn't
14:50 Joubu which file fails?
14:50 tcohen i cannot make it fail when I run it on my desktop, or the VM's I have for testing in different distros
14:55 Joubu tcohen: do you try to debug translate-templates.t to know the file in failure? It should be easy, just warn @warnings
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15:10 ztajoli Hi, utf-8 test (bug 11944): Cart and list OK
15:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
15:15 Joubu have a good week end #koha
15:15 Joubu see you in 3 weeks
15:17 tcohen bye Joubu have a nice vacation
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15:26 ztajoli utf-8 Problem in I insert a title as 'ωt55 èè teas' and appears the error
15:26 ztajoli Software error:
15:26 ztajoli Cannot decode string with wide characters at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/ line 174
15:26 ztajoli I create a 'see also bug'
15:26 ztajoli on sandbox 6
15:30 ztajoli On master [sandbox 8] is not present
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16:09 rhcl netsplit - That's kinda unusual
16:10 slef wow netsplit - hi all
16:10 slef Is anyone using Koha to catalogue file boxes of articles and circulate the boxes (not the articles)? Any non-obvious problems with that?  Do we still have the 99999-character MARC binary limit?
16:13 slef asking on email too
16:13 gmcharlt slef: the MARC limit would be an issue upon export to ISO2709, but if you don't need to worry about that particular use case, you can go wild
16:14 Dyrcona slef: the 99999 character limit is built-in to the MARC standard. However, a lot of software works around it.
16:14 slef gmcharlt: so we always speak marcxml to zebra now?
16:14 gmcharlt though using analytic cataloging would be an option as well
16:14 gmcharlt slef: yes
16:15 slef thanks... I don't think analytic cataloging is worthwhile because only whole boxes circulate - or am I missing something?
16:15 jcamins slef: I use analytics for that.
16:15 slef argh battery low... brb
16:15 jcamins Depends on the level of description.
16:15 gmcharlt slef: well actually, still need to pass -x to rebuild_zebra
16:15 gmcharlt but as long as you do that, all of the glitches are ironed out TTBOMK
16:16 gmcharlt package-based installs use -x by default
16:16 slef back... I was downstairs because of...
16:16 slef @wunder EGFC
16:16 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
16:16 slef @wunder EGYH
16:17 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
16:17 slef huginn: you're annoying me again
16:17 huginn slef: I've exhausted my database of quotes
16:17 slef @wunder EGYM
16:17 huginn slef: The current temperature in Marham, United Kingdom is 24.0°C (5:00 PM BST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
16:17 slef hrm, cooler on the airfield than in my house
16:17 slef jcamins: tables of contents
16:19 Dyrcona Does Koha support indexing the 505s?
16:19 slef Dyrcona: probably if we stroke the zebra config correctly, I'd think.
16:20 gmcharlt which it does by default
16:20 Dyrcona OK. I was just curious, 'cause that's what I thought of as "table of contents."
16:20 gmcharlt 505$t => title, 505$r => author, 505$anything else => notes
16:20 Dyrcona We added that in our Evergreen installation.
16:21 slef @marc 505
16:21 huginn slef: The titles of separate works or parts of an item or the table of contents. The field may also contain statements of responsibility and volume numbers or other sequential designations. (Repeatable) [a,g,r,t,u,6,8]
16:21 slef @marc 505 a
16:21 huginn slef: Formatted contents note The format of the note is determined by the relevant cataloging rules.
16:21 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
16:21 slef @marc 505 g
16:21 huginn slef: Miscellaneous information  (Repeatable)
16:21 slef @marc 505 u
16:21 huginn slef: Uniform Resource Identifier The Uniform Resource Identifier (URI), for example a URL or URN, which provides electronic access data in a standard syntax. This data can be used for automated access to an electronic item using one of the Internet protocols. (Repeatable)
16:21 slef @marc 505 6
16:21 huginn slef: Linkage  See Control Subfields
16:21 slef @marc 505 8
16:21 huginn slef: Field link and sequence number  See Control Subfields (Repeatable)
16:22 Dyrcona We added just the 505$t.
16:22 Dyrcona Does koha make use of MARC::Record and friends, or does it do its own thing?
16:22 * Dyrcona seems to be full of questions today.
16:23 gmcharlt it uses MARC::Record and its friends, cousins, nieces etc.
16:23 slef Dyrcona: mostly MARC::Record I think, but there's a table too.
16:23 Dyrcona :)
16:23 Dyrcona Anyway, I'll stop butting in.
16:23 slef no worries
16:25 slef I'll summarise this in an email to koha@ and ask if anyone's got anything to add, if that's OK?
16:25 tcohen does anyone know an SQL syntax validating library?
16:26 tcohen slef: great
16:26 gmcharlt tcohen:
16:27 gmcharlt or possibly
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16:46 JasonBurds Does anyone use EZProxy to authenticate off of Koha?
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16:49 gmcharlt JasonBurds: several folks have, including myself
16:49 gmcharlt simplest is to authenticate via SIP2
16:49 gmcharlt e.g.,[…]nuary/031625.html
17:01 JasonBurds Thanks, I'll check it out
17:01 jcamins tcohen++ # for remembering the benadryl
17:04 jcamins Tasty.
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17:31 tcohen @later tell eythian can catalyst provide a debian testing node fr jenkins?
17:31 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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19:26 tcohen bye #koha
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20:32 tcohen hi there
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20:47 tcohen anyone with a bit of CAS setup knowledge?
21:24 tcohen anyone with CAS knowledge?
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22:02 tcohen hi eythian
22:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12572: (followup) Small style fix <[…]61daadd9f7ea723b5> / Bug 12572 - Use jQueryUI Accordion to display message transport types <[…]5b6b1242988b006cc>
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22:10 tcohen eythian: the test is not failing in our D6 node http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Build/testReport/
22:10 tcohen (several others are because of the DBIC version issue)
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