Time  Nick       Message
03:04 eythian    are we actually removing prog for good in master now?
03:04 eythian    like now, now?
03:09 mtj        hi eythian, yes i think so  :)
03:10 mtj        ...from what i recall on irc over the last few weeks
03:10 mtj        i think the plan might be to have the prog dirs removed by 3.18?
03:13 eythian    OK
03:13 eythian    in that case, I'll remove them from the master package builds now then
03:13 eythian    (I knew it was impending, just didn't know exactly when.)
03:35 eythian    @later tell cait can you add something to the QA scripts that run the test cases without a database available, test cases get through every so often that fail because of that when I have to build packages.
03:35 huginn     eythian: The operation succeeded.
03:47 wizzyrea   @wunder nzwn
03:47 huginn     wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
03:48 wizzyrea   *ponders*
03:51 dcook      ponders?
03:51 dcook      @wunder sydney, australia
03:51 huginn     dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (1:30 PM EST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
03:51 * dcook    looks outside
03:51 dcook      I suppose it was fairly warm...
03:51 wizzyrea   20!
03:51 * dcook    ponders
03:52 dcook      I don't think it's 20
03:52 dcook      Maybe that's at the airport or something
07:00 alex_a     bonjour
07:44 cait       good morning #koha
07:47 cait       @later tell eythian I like the idea, but i am the wrong person to ask that - and not sure how to do it
07:47 huginn     cait: The operation succeeded.
08:28 ashimema   @wunder stevenage, uk
08:28 huginn     ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 21.7°C (9:28 AM BST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
10:24 ztajoli    hi to all
10:24 ztajoli    as CINECA we want to organize an hack meeting in Italy
10:25 ztajoli    More exctly near Milan in Segrate in our building.
10:25 ztajoli    http://www.cineca.it/en/content/where-we-are-located
10:26 ztajoli    We have free place in our meeting rooms at 13-14/Nov/2014
10:26 ztajoli    and at 20-21/Nov/2014.
10:26 ztajoli    Any opinion ?
10:51 Joubu      cait: what is the usefulness of the patch you SO on bug 10220?
10:51 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10220 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, evonne, Signed Off , IDs on checkin columns
10:53 cait       What nicole said - Css changes are made easier
10:53 cait       you can easily bold content of one columsn etc.
10:54 cait       we have done similar on other tables
10:54 cait       and it's a first patch
10:54 cait       and clean
10:54 cait       sorry i have to run and catch a train :)
10:54 cait       cya all next week
12:10 nengard    morning all
12:16 fridolin   hie all
12:16 * fridolin releasing 3.14.09
12:28 tcohen     morning!
12:28 wahanui    morning is, like, a state of the cait
12:36 tcohen     does anyone have debian testing at hand?
12:42 fridolin   tcohen: what means at hand ? I have a Wheezy but no Jessie
12:43 tcohen     robin reported that 12596 tests are failing in Jessie
12:54 tcohen     fridolin: it wasn't *taht* bug, my mistake
12:54 tcohen     bug 12443
12:54 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12443 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Initial re-factoring of buildQuery
12:55 fridolin   tcohen: oki
13:04 * Dyrcona  wonders if there are any laters for him.
13:11 tcohen     @later tell Dyrcona hi Dyrcona
13:11 huginn     tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:11 Dyrcona    Hi, tcohen!
13:11 Dyrcona    ;)
13:12 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12596: (followup) add reference to bug # and license note <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea124e29c17f053a763e05f4567cbe79f3387838> / Bug 12596 - Backdating returns with SpecifiyReturnDate causes fines for items not... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07dad6bb8358133d2724836a41006e0d54ea6cbd> / Bug 12596 - Unit Test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p
13:15 rhcl       oleonard
13:15 wahanui    i think oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
13:15 oleonard   rhcl
13:17 * oleonard is trying a package install in a new VM, this time on Debian
13:17 oleonard   Is there a preferred set of instructions to follow for Wheezy?
13:27 * Joubu    likes the new progress bar on launching the QA tests :)
13:41 Joubu      Does someone plan to SO on bug 11944? ztajoli maybe next week?
13:41 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
13:42 Joubu      tcohen: are you confident on this patch set?
14:02 ztajoli    I try to finish today
14:02 ztajoli    The sandboxes could send mail ?
14:05 Joubu      ztajoli: yes, I think so
14:06 ztajoli    Ok, so i can test list and mail setup for utf-8
14:46 tcohen     Joubu: almost
14:46 tcohen     will be by monday
14:47 tcohen     heh, when I have the time to review anything you did this days
14:48 Joubu      tcohen: The patches still need a SO, but they are coming :)
14:49 * tcohen   still cannot figure why translatable-templates.t fail inconsistently, only in jenkins
14:50 Joubu      tcohen: maybe there is an extra tt file
14:50 tcohen     there isn't
14:50 Joubu      which file fails?
14:50 tcohen     i cannot make it fail when I run it on my desktop, or the VM's I have for testing in different distros
14:55 Joubu      tcohen: do you try to debug translate-templates.t to know the file in failure? It should be easy, just warn @warnings
15:10 ztajoli    Hi, utf-8 test (bug 11944): Cart and list OK
15:10 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
15:15 Joubu      have a good week end #koha
15:15 Joubu      see you in 3 weeks
15:17 tcohen     bye Joubu have a nice vacation
15:26 ztajoli    utf-8 Problem in opac-suggestions.pl. I insert a title as 'ωt55 èè teas' and appears the error
15:26 ztajoli    Software error:
15:26 ztajoli    Cannot decode string with wide characters at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Encode.pm line 174
15:26 ztajoli    I create a 'see also bug'
15:26 ztajoli    on sandbox 6
15:30 ztajoli    On master [sandbox 8] is not present
16:09 rhcl       netsplit - That's kinda unusual
16:10 slef       wow netsplit - hi all
16:10 slef       Is anyone using Koha to catalogue file boxes of articles and circulate the boxes (not the articles)? Any non-obvious problems with that?  Do we still have the 99999-character MARC binary limit?
16:13 slef       asking on email too
16:13 gmcharlt   slef: the MARC limit would be an issue upon export to ISO2709, but if you don't need to worry about that particular use case, you can go wild
16:14 Dyrcona    slef: the 99999 character limit is built-in to the MARC standard. However, a lot of software works around it.
16:14 slef       gmcharlt: so we always speak marcxml to zebra now?
16:14 gmcharlt   though using analytic cataloging would be an option as well
16:14 gmcharlt   slef: yes
16:15 slef       thanks... I don't think analytic cataloging is worthwhile because only whole boxes circulate - or am I missing something?
16:15 jcamins    slef: I use analytics for that.
16:15 slef       argh battery low... brb
16:15 jcamins    Depends on the level of description.
16:15 gmcharlt   slef: well actually, still need to pass -x to rebuild_zebra
16:15 gmcharlt   but as long as you do that, all of the glitches are ironed out TTBOMK
16:16 gmcharlt   package-based installs use -x by default
16:16 slef       back... I was downstairs because of...
16:16 slef       @wunder EGFC
16:16 huginn     slef: Error: No such location could be found.
16:16 slef       @wunder EGYH
16:17 huginn     slef: Error: No such location could be found.
16:17 slef       huginn: you're annoying me again
16:17 huginn     slef: I've exhausted my database of quotes
16:17 slef       @wunder EGYM
16:17 huginn     slef: The current temperature in Marham, United Kingdom is 24.0°C (5:00 PM BST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
16:17 slef       hrm, cooler on the airfield than in my house
16:17 slef       jcamins: tables of contents
16:19 Dyrcona    Does Koha support indexing the 505s?
16:19 slef       Dyrcona: probably if we stroke the zebra config correctly, I'd think.
16:20 gmcharlt   which it does by default
16:20 Dyrcona    OK. I was just curious, 'cause that's what I thought of as "table of contents."
16:20 gmcharlt   505$t => title, 505$r => author, 505$anything else => notes
16:20 Dyrcona    We added that in our Evergreen installation.
16:21 slef       @marc 505
16:21 huginn     slef: The titles of separate works or parts of an item or the table of contents. The field may also contain statements of responsibility and volume numbers or other sequential designations. (Repeatable) [a,g,r,t,u,6,8]
16:21 slef       @marc 505 a
16:21 huginn     slef: Formatted contents note The format of the note is determined by the relevant cataloging rules.
16:21 wahanui    i already had it that way, huginn.
16:21 slef       @marc 505 g
16:21 huginn     slef: Miscellaneous information  (Repeatable)
16:21 slef       @marc 505 u
16:21 huginn     slef: Uniform Resource Identifier The Uniform Resource Identifier (URI), for example a URL or URN, which provides electronic access data in a standard syntax. This data can be used for automated access to an electronic item using one of the Internet protocols. (Repeatable)
16:21 slef       @marc 505 6
16:21 huginn     slef: Linkage  See Control Subfields
16:21 slef       @marc 505 8
16:21 huginn     slef: Field link and sequence number  See Control Subfields (Repeatable)
16:22 Dyrcona    We added just the 505$t.
16:22 Dyrcona    Does koha make use of MARC::Record and friends, or does it do its own thing?
16:22 * Dyrcona  seems to be full of questions today.
16:23 gmcharlt   it uses MARC::Record and its friends, cousins, nieces etc.
16:23 slef       Dyrcona: mostly MARC::Record I think, but there's a table too.
16:23 Dyrcona    :)
16:23 Dyrcona    Anyway, I'll stop butting in.
16:23 slef       no worries
16:25 slef       I'll summarise this in an email to koha@ and ask if anyone's got anything to add, if that's OK?
16:25 tcohen     does anyone know an SQL syntax validating library?
16:26 tcohen     slef: great
16:26 gmcharlt   tcohen: https://metacpan.org/pod/SQL::Translator
16:27 gmcharlt   or possibly https://metacpan.org/pod/SQL::Statement
16:46 JasonBurds Does anyone use EZProxy to authenticate off of Koha?
16:49 gmcharlt   JasonBurds: several folks have, including myself
16:49 gmcharlt   simplest is to authenticate via SIP2
16:49 gmcharlt   e.g., http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2012-January/031625.html
17:01 JasonBurds Thanks, I'll check it out
17:01 jcamins    tcohen++ # for remembering the benadryl
17:04 jcamins    Tasty.
17:31 tcohen     @later tell eythian can catalyst provide a debian testing node fr jenkins?
17:31 huginn     tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:26 tcohen     bye #koha
20:32 tcohen     hi there
20:47 tcohen     anyone with a bit of CAS setup knowledge?
21:24 tcohen     anyone with CAS knowledge?
22:02 tcohen     hi eythian
22:04 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12572: (followup) Small style fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e1020015898e0cf72f562361daadd9f7ea723b5> / Bug 12572 - Use jQueryUI Accordion to display message transport types <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=015f77dea1b5ce9bbe7b8f15b6b1242988b006cc>
22:10 tcohen     eythian: the test is not failing in our D6 node http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D6/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
22:10 tcohen     (several others are because of the DBIC version issue)