IRC log for #koha, 2014-07-15

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00:18 dcook__ Mmm, I finally understand batch checkouts...
00:18 dcook Maybe
00:20 dcook I've heard of people checking out multiple items at once using RFID scanners, although I think in my experience I've only checked out one at a time with libraries that used RFID
00:21 rangi it doesnt work well
00:21 dcook That would be my thought as well
00:21 rangi one of those 8 books has a hold on it
00:21 rangi or cant be checked out etc
00:21 rangi it just becomes a UX nightmare
00:22 dcook Totally agree with you:[…].cgi?id=11759#c11
00:22 huginn Bug 11759: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Batch checkout
00:22 dcook I'm trying to think if there is a way that you could catch those errors and show them in an easy way..
00:23 dcook I also wonder a bit about the range of the scanner
00:24 dcook If you plunk a stack of books on it, it might not reach the top of the stack
00:24 dcook Mind you, they've probably made them reasonably powerful, I suppose
00:32 wizzyrea mmm where we used it it was "put one book down at a time
00:33 wizzyrea and that I think is how most libraries do it generally.
00:33 wizzyrea at least the 3 or 4 that I've been in that have rfid
00:33 wizzyrea check in is different though.
00:34 wizzyrea check in you can do stacks.
00:47 dcook neato burrito
00:47 * dcook has just been wanting to say that for a little while...
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01:04 eythian @wunder nzwn
01:04 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on July 15, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
01:06 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
01:06 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Matraville, Sydney, New South Wales is 15.9°C (11:04 AM EST on July 15, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
01:07 dcook Clear? Ha...
01:07 * dcook hopes it clears so the laundry on the line dries...
01:13 wizzyrea it feels nice enough out there
01:18 eythian chilly though
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01:33 jcamins dcook: I check out lots of items at once at my local library.
01:34 dcook jcamins: Yeah? Self-checkout?
01:34 dcook hey irma :)
01:34 jcamins dcook: yeah, but not Koha.
01:34 dcook jcamins: I imagined that might be the case :p
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03:41 irma hi all, hi dcook ... sorry I can't stop .. we are moving office and it's a bit crazy here right now. I will get in touch asap.
03:45 dcook Good luck with the move, irma!
03:56 mtj hey #koha...
03:56 wahanui well, #koha is all kinds of good drugs today
03:56 mtj has anyone else noticed a search problem with DOM kohas, and QueryFuzzy/QueryAutoTruncate sysprefs?
03:57 mtj seems like those 2 sysprefs cause a DOM koha to return zero results...
04:00 mtj aah, looks like this bug -> 9715
04:00 dcook bug 9715
04:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9715 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Variouse combinations of QueryAutoTruncate, QueryFuzzy and QueryWeightFields preferences Conflict
04:00 dcook Mmm, I'm not sure that's the case
04:00 dcook Are you also using ICU, mtj?
04:00 dcook Ah,  yes, Katrin's comment is a good one
04:01 mtj hmm, afaik -  no ICU here
04:01 dcook Hmm, that's one that caused us a lot of problems
04:02 dcook ICU + QueryFuzzy or QueryAutoTruncate
04:02 dcook But yeah, those preferences are a mess atm
04:02 * dcook has it on the list of things to fix
04:02 dcook My guess is that you're getting an invalid query created
04:02 dcook Probably via QueryWeightFields, as it's a horrendous bit of code
04:02 * mtj peeking at bug 9976 too
04:02 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9976 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, QueryAutoTruncate can break search when ICU is activated
04:02 dcook Oooh
04:03 dcook mtj: I would double check about ICU
04:04 dcook And if it's using CHR instead, I'd add some warns to see what sort of PQF query is being spun off to Zebra
04:04 * dcook is happy to help troubleshoot PQF queries
04:08 mtj hmm, def. no ICU here
04:08 mtj great to find some info, in those ticket tho
04:09 mtj i might have to do a little poking myself
04:10 mtj DOM seemed to have problems with some search sysprefs, that GRS1 did not
04:11 dcook I think I've heard that, although I find it surprising
04:11 dcook Zebra is a bit of a black box though...
04:12 dcook Well, white and black...:p
04:14 mtj for me... QueryFuzzy and QueryAutoTruncate were the problem prefs
04:15 mtj as you mentioned before dcook ^^  :0)
04:15 mtj now i'm repeating myself
04:15 dcook It still seems strange...I think I've only had problems with those prefs when using ICU
04:16 dcook (QueryAutoTruncate and QueryWeightFields don't play nicely together regardless of tokenizer or filter though)
04:16 dcook When we switched back to CHR (while still using DOM), they worked ok
04:19 mtj hmm, thanks for the info dcook
04:20 mtj i'll try to have decent twiddle over the next few days, and see if i can work out whats going on...
04:22 * mtj is in the middle of something else, atm
04:27 dcook Same. Really want to work on search, but have other projects :/
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06:32 reiveune hello
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07:00 Joubu hello
07:00 wahanui salut, Joubu
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07:17 cait morning Joubu
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07:21 gaetan_B hello
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08:02 ashimema Good Morning #koha
08:04 ashimema dcook.. are you intending to have a play with search at some point.. I noticed a flurry of bugzilla mails about zebra bugs I put in ages ago ;)
08:04 ashimema would be awesome if you get a chance.. I'de love to see some of that code re-factored.. it's a Mess.
08:23 Joubu cait: bug 10155 seems to be fixed by bug 9811
08:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10155 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron search should remember search options selected
08:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Patrons search improvements
08:23 Joubu why did you link both?
08:24 Joubu cait: I have just tried on master, and the dopdown list in the header are correctly selected
08:24 Joubu cait: ho non, sorry
08:24 Joubu cait: it's only "search type"
08:24 cait sorry, brb
08:34 cait Joubu: i tested on master, there is still a small glitch
08:34 cait it's a lot better than before tho :)
08:34 cait ah... and now I see you already found it - should read back first :)
08:35 Joubu cait: and patch sent ;)
08:35 cait yep :)
08:35 cait there is something else weird, let me see if i can find the bug
08:36 cait when you are on a patron detail page
08:36 cait and look at the patron search options on top with the + - it doesn't work
08:36 cait bug 7380
08:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7380 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't filter patron search on detail page
08:38 Joubu cait: ... weird :)
08:38 Joubu I will have a look too
08:39 cait thx, it's an old one, it also changed in master since the first report, but is still... not really working
08:56 cait ptfs_europe++
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09:12 ashimema :)
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10:06 magnuse gah:  Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 494.
10:24 magnuse that happens after upgrading my test server from 3.14.7 to 3.16.1
10:29 magnuse bug 9864 perhaps?
10:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9864 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , systematic searching error : can't call method "raw"
10:36 magnuse reminds me of bug 9256
10:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, CLOSED FIXED, Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
10:55 magnuse bug 12577
10:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12577 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Search is broke after upgrade from 3.14.7 to 3.16.1
11:13 cait magnuse: hm maybe check your default sort settings
11:13 cait but it might be i have another bug on mind
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11:15 cait Joubu++
11:21 magnuse cait: changing from relevance to title did not change anything
11:27 cait maybe another bug :(
11:27 cait when does it happen?
11:28 magnuse on every search
11:29 magnuse and after upgrading a package install from 3.14.x to 3.16.1
11:29 cait hmm
11:30 cait i'd try switching off all the search prefs for a start i guess
11:30 cait your frameworks are ok?
11:30 cait reindexed?
11:30 magnuse yup did a full reindex
11:30 cait we have a 3.16.1 that sarches ok
11:30 cait let me check
11:30 magnuse it worked as it should before the upgrade
11:31 cait ours seems alive
11:31 magnuse i suspect it might be related t normarc (or "not marc21")
11:31 cait oh
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11:31 cait that could be i guess :(
11:31 cait maybe check if something changed in zebra conf?
11:31 cait i guess a lot did
11:31 magnuse hehe
11:31 magnuse probably
11:32 cait maybe run zebra on the command line?
11:32 magnuse there might be some change that was not done for normarc
11:32 cait to see if there is an error?
11:32 magnuse yeah
11:32 cait yeah i guess
11:32 cait or some if/else you fall over
11:32 magnuse if i can remember how to do that...
11:34 magnuse ah? I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/zebradb/normarc-r​etrieval-info-auth-dom.xml"
11:35 cait hm interesting
11:35 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
11:35 magnuse /etc/koha/zebradb/normarc-r​etrieval-info-auth-dom.xml: No such file or directory
11:37 cait ohoh
11:37 magnuse hm, /etc/koha/zebradb/ has retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml, but no *-retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml files?
11:37 magnuse so why is it looking for a normarc specific one?
11:37 cait i am not sure
11:38 cait if you grep for the last bit of the file name, maybe you can see where it comes from?
11:40 magnuse debian/scripts/koha-create: 231:    <xi:include href="\/etc\/koha\/$marc_format​-retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml"\n
11:41 cait hm interesting
11:41 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
11:41 cait git blame maybe?
11:44 magnuse hm, there *is* a file called /etc/koha/normarc-retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml
11:45 magnuse but *not* /etc/koha/zebradb/normarc-r​etrieval-info-auth-dom.xml
11:48 magnuse oops, gotta run!
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12:26 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:55 cait hi oleonard :)
12:55 cait thank you for the accordeon patch and the other bug :)
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13:01 khall at some point, somewhere, someone mentioned a way to grab a dbix class resultset by table name, does anyone remember how? google has not helped me at all
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13:08 nengard morning all
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14:28 reiveune bye
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14:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12263: Fix startup issues blocking response to HUP <[…]93727f51f5889e5b4> / Bug 11575 - OPACBaseURL sometimes set by ENV variable and not system preference <[…]1af877deae1161e2f> / Bug 12377 [QA Followup] - Remove readonly from input <http://git.koha-comm
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15:17 oleonard gmcharlt: Can you give the wiki a kick? Seems to be down.
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15:30 ashimema @later tall cait
15:30 huginn ashimema: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
15:30 ashimema @later tell cait
15:30 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
15:30 ashimema oops
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15:53 gaetan_B bye!
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16:56 tcohen hi
16:57 oleonard Hi tcohen
16:57 tcohen oleonard: is it possible that patron pictures are not cached?
16:58 tcohen i mean, is it by design or a bug?
16:59 oleonard I don't know.
17:03 tcohen hmm, no bug #
17:03 oleonard Why do you ask tcohen? There is something buggy about it?
17:04 tcohen yes
17:04 tcohen it retrieves the image on each tab change
17:04 tcohen (when testing your awesome patch btw)
17:04 oleonard Thanks but you make me realize I didn't test with patron images on!
17:05 tcohen there's an explicit Cache-control:no-store header
17:05 tcohen which is explicitly added by a patch from chris_n
17:05 tcohen chris_n: commit 6b89cda9699e22a095b34fb96960882989c76c9a
17:06 tcohen do u remember why you added Cache-control:no-store to the headers?
17:15 jcamins tcohen: a requirement from chris_n's library to make sure that the pictures were changed immediately, as I recall.
17:15 tcohen thanks jcamins
17:15 tcohen i'll add a timestamp field to patronimages
17:15 tcohen and correctly set Last-Modified header
17:15 tcohen (or something like that)
17:16 tcohen (if it sounds reasonable heh)
17:18 tcohen NOW WE SPEAK
17:18 tcohen -1 sec on checkout reload :-D
17:19 tcohen (caching patron image)
17:44 oleonard @seen sekjal
17:44 huginn oleonard: sekjal was last seen in #koha 12 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 25 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <sekjal> rambutan: URL is, but the new version is in testing elsewhere
17:45 oleonard There are 94 bugs which are assigned to, CC, or have QA contact as sekjal. I think these should be cleaned up.
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17:46 * magnuse waves
17:47 magnuse oops someone should update the topic thingy
17:51 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.1 is available! Next general meeting is 13 and 14 August 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha Please use for pastes.
17:51 tcohen has anyone mentioned about having more that one patron picture stored on the DB recently?
17:53 oleonard Is that a feature or a bug?
17:54 tcohen feature
17:54 magnuse thanks oleonard
17:54 tcohen oleonard: do u think someone would need to add more than one patron image? and choose the preferred one?
17:55 oleonard I don't know tcohen we don't use patron images.
17:56 tcohen ok :-D
17:57 magnuse i guess you could imagine importing images from more than one, possibly overlapping, sources - but it does sound a bit far fetched to me...
18:03 tcohen magnuse: i sent an RFC to koha-devel on this
18:04 tcohen I wanted to implement better caching and an option to capture from a webcam
18:04 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "zebra output related to bug 12577" (11 lines) at
18:04 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12577 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Search is broken after upgrade from 3.14.7 to 3.16.1
18:04 magnuse any zebra gurus able to make head or tail of that? ^
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18:05 magnuse tcohen: i am sure noone will object to having the possibility of more than one image :-)
18:05 magnuse (unless it makes current workflows harder, of curse :-)
18:06 tcohen it would be harmless I think
18:06 tcohen magnuse: it looks like you have broken data, are you using DOM?
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18:10 magnuse tcohen: yeah, i guess... standard package install
18:10 tcohen it is a clean 3.14 install?
18:10 tcohen or you come from 3.12?
18:10 magnuse well, with normarc, which is kind of non-standard...
18:10 magnuse yeah, it's been through a number of upgrades
18:10 magnuse so definnitely started at 3.12
18:11 magnuse and probably earlier too
18:11 magnuse i have a marc21 instance on the same server that does not have this problem
18:11 magnuse (the error i get in the ui is " Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 494. ")
18:13 magnuse i get the same error on several instances on this server, so i don't think individual bad records are the problem
18:13 tcohen my experience says you have a record that cannot be rendered
18:13 tcohen but is counted as a search result
18:16 tcohen when that happens, i connect manually to zebra, using yaz
18:16 tcohen yaz-client
18:16 wahanui rumour has it yaz-client is
18:16 tcohen and perform the same search
18:16 tcohen then use 's' to move from one result to the other
18:17 magnuse yeah, i'll give that a shot
18:17 tcohen i usually spot the encoding problem really fast
18:17 tcohen because they are not too many results
18:17 * tcohen thinks it is a pain but can be done
18:18 tcohen are you sure it is 3.16.1?
18:18 magnuse yup <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.1601000" />
18:19 magnuse hm, how do i figure out what to connect yaz-client to again?
18:20 tcohen yaz-client
18:20 wahanui i heard yaz-client was
18:20 magnuse ah, koha-conf.xml, nm
18:20 tcohen > open unix:/home/tcohen/koha-dev/v​ar/run/zebradb/bibliosocket
18:20 tcohen (adjust to biblioserver entry in koha-conf.xml)
18:20 tcohen base biblios
18:23 magnuse "Record syntax not supported"
18:24 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "yaz-client" (27 lines) at
18:27 tcohen format xml
18:27 wahanui i guess format xml is a client side transformation of whatever comes back from the server.
18:27 tcohen before the show
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18:30 tcohen magnuse?
18:30 wahanui i heard magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
18:32 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "format xml" (171 lines) at
18:34 tcohen just 2 records?
18:34 magnuse yup
18:34 tcohen instead of s 1, s 2, I always do s
18:35 tcohen until it shows the broken record
18:35 magnuse just s gives "Present request out of range"
18:35 tcohen ah
18:35 tcohen re launch the search
18:36 magnuse ah, ok
18:36 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "just s" (98 lines) at
18:37 tcohen looks not broken
18:37 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "oops, forgot the second s" (87 lines) at
18:37 tcohen did you hit s, until broken record shors?
18:38 magnuse that second paste shows the second and third "s"
18:39 tcohen try f @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 lessig
18:40 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "Z> f @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 lessig" (184 lines) at
18:41 * tcohen is puzzled, no non-ASCII stuff actually
18:41 magnuse no, the records should be pretty simple
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18:47 tcohen no clue magnuse, can't find error 249 definition
18:48 tcohen (it was 239, heh)
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18:49 magnuse it feels very similar to what i fixed with bug 9256
18:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, CLOSED FIXED, Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
18:49 magnuse but i can't for the life of me understand why that should be coming back
18:49 * magnuse waves to pianohacker
18:49 pianohacker hi magnuse :)
18:50 tcohen magnuse: inherited config files that do not account for changes in the Search api
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18:51 magnuse tcohen: that could very well be...
18:51 tcohen there have been improvements in the config files
18:52 tcohen we should have a way to fast-forward zebra config files
18:53 oleonard if ( my $count = scalar @$contents ) {} will return false if scalar @$contents is 0?
18:54 magnuse oleonard: beware of "=" there
18:54 magnuse oh, never mind
18:54 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
18:54 * cait waves back
18:55 cait sorry, got distracted by email :)
18:55 oleonard I'm just trying to understand how that works
18:55 magnuse oleonard: what do you mean by return? put false in $count?
18:55 cait magnuse: did you figure out the search problem?
18:55 magnuse cait: nope, tcohen has been trying to help me
18:55 magnuse still no luck
18:55 oleonard I mean evaluate as false magnuse
18:56 cait tcohen++
18:56 cait ashimema++
18:56 tcohen cait: "trying"
18:58 magnuse oleonard: i *think* the if will pick up on whether the assignment was successfull or not, but i'm not sure
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18:59 oleonard The code I'm trying to understand is on line 387:[…]ec9ab35b4;hb=HEAD
19:00 magnuse oleonard: hehe, git blame credits you with that line ;-)
19:00 * oleonard pleads insanity
19:01 tcohen oleonard: let it go
19:01 tcohen that's a 450 lines long function...
19:02 cait ugh?
19:04 oleonard Oh okay, apparently I did a PerlTidy of that file 4 years ago. It doesn't mean I understand it :P
19:09 magnuse :-)
19:09 tcohen bye #koha
19:09 magnuse have fun tcohen
19:09 cait you probably tried to :)
19:10 magnuse ah, looks like there were some marc21 and unimarc files that were updated between 3.14.0 and HEAD, but no changes for the corresponding normarc files
19:24 magnuse gah, those changes look like they are just minor tweaks to the indexing, nothing that shoud affect normarc...
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20:03 magnuse hm, looks like i might not be using dom indexing after all...
20:04 magnuse <config>/etc/koha/sites/esme​/zebra-biblios.cfg</config>
20:08 magnuse so, how does one domify an existing instance running off the debian packages? that is the question...
20:08 magnuse anyone know if[…]g_to_dom_indexing is the right place to start?
20:18 cait sorry i don't
20:18 cait could ou load the database in a new domified instance?
20:19 magnuse yeah, i was sort of thinking alone those lines...
20:19 magnuse *along
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20:25 tcohen hi
20:25 rangi morning
20:25 magnuse kia ora rangi!
20:25 Dyrcona rangi: evening. :)
20:27 tcohen hi rangi
20:29 cait morning rangi
20:29 cait hi Dyrcona
20:29 Dyrcona hi cait!
20:29 magnuse nah, looks like instances that do use dom have the problem too
20:29 cait :)
20:30 cait magnuse: meh.
20:30 * Dyrcona is fixin' to go home for the day.
20:30 cait have a nice evening then :)
20:30 Dyrcona thanks
20:31 magnuse have fun Dyrcona
20:40 jcamins tcohen: I have a policy suggestion for commit messages:[…]e-commit-messages
20:41 rangi jcamins: dont tempt me
20:41 tcohen heh
20:41 rangi did i ever show you what happened when i got bored with bugzilla messages?
20:41 jcamins rangi: Increase patch readership by 200% with this simple trick!
20:41 jcamins I don't think so.
20:43 rangi[…]atus-of-300-bugs/
20:43 jcamins Oh, yeah, I remember that.
20:44 rangi it worked too, all of them got tested :)
20:44 tcohen heheh
20:44 magnuse classic :-)
20:44 cait :)
20:45 tcohen rotfl
20:45 ibeardslee you need a special user for that .. 'The Lonely Bug'
20:46 ibeardslee just for those special occasions when fixed bugs are left alone and wondering where all their friends have gone
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20:48 rangi :)
20:49 cait heh
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20:49 rangi hiya carmenh
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20:49 carmenh hello rangi :)
20:50 carmenh hope all is well :)
20:51 rangi yep
20:51 larryb hello #koha
20:52 tcohen nengard: i'll try to answer tomorrow
20:52 tcohen (about kohacon14)
20:52 nengard answer?
20:52 wahanui well, answer is always go back to sleep or 42
20:52 cait hi larryb
20:52 nengard oh okay!
20:52 nengard cool
20:52 tcohen we're on winter holiday
20:52 tcohen and people are not sending me the data
20:52 larryb I need a little help getting koha installed on a Ubuntu 12.04 server. I've done it before, but it's not working on this one.
20:55 rangi tcohen:[…]_is_arriving_when  i started this, to help people share taxi etc
20:55 larryb the problem is libreadonly-xs-perl libstring-crc32-perl libtext-unaccent-perl which require perlapi-5.10.0, and so they won't install. Any suggestions for getting around this?
20:56 cait rangi: cool :)
20:56 rangi larryb: you might have to dh-make-perl them
20:57 rangi so they build with deps that are in 12.04
20:57 tcohen larryb: what instructions are you following?
20:58 larryb[…]ubuntu_-_packages
20:58 larryb apt-get install koha-deps koha-perldeps, then apt-get install koha-common
20:58 larryb it's the koha-perldeps that are failing, due to those three packages.
20:58 tcohen did you apt-get update
20:58 larryb yep
20:59 tcohen again?
20:59 larryb yep
20:59 tcohen i happened to me that indexes were old, and the referred files werent available anymore
21:00 * tcohen is cloning his 12.04 server, to try to reproduce
21:00 tcohen are you installing using 'squeeze'?
21:00 francharb hello!
21:00 jcamins larryb: check the policy on those packages, and then remove the unwanted apt repos?
21:00 francharb cait, are you still here?
21:00 larryb in this case, these three require perlapi-5.10.0, and but perl-base is 3.14.2
21:00 cait kind of
21:00 francharb quick question?
21:00 rangi francharb++ #for answering the serials mail
21:00 cait i can try :) bit tired tho, no guarantees :)
21:01 cait yep francharb++ indeed
21:01 francharb thanks rangi cait
21:01 francharb :)
21:01 francharb It's on what I should do
21:01 tcohen larryb: 'squeeze'?
21:01 wahanui it has been said that 'squeeze' is debian-stable
21:02 francharb now, we can merge two authorities through the interface
21:02 francharb it works on 3.14.06
21:02 francharb but it's broke on 3.14.07
21:02 larryb tcohen, well I was trying pull from oldstable. you think I should try squeeze instead.
21:02 larryb oldstable is 3.14.08, so maybe it's broken there there.
21:03 francharb The release notes says that this patch has been introduced to fix something related to authority merging
21:03 francharb[…]_bug.cgi?id=11652
21:03 huginn Bug 11652: minor, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , merging authority records does not correct biblios
21:03 francharb since, it's signed offed by at least 2 peole
21:04 francharb I guess something went wront when merging the patch into 3.14.07
21:04 cait hm maybe
21:04 francharb should I report  a new bug
21:04 cait or something is missing that is in master
21:04 francharb or ask for a follow up on the bug itself?
21:04 cait i think reporting a bug would be good - did you test if it's ok on master?
21:04 larryb tcohen, I tried installing squeeze, and that failed too.
21:04 tcohen larryb: i've successfully installed on a fresh 12.04 server, using 'oldstable'
21:05 jcamins I heard other reports that it's broken in 3.14.x.
21:05 francharb not yet, I have a problem with my database, right now
21:05 cait i think i woudl report separately but link them, and make sure you put fridolin on the cc list
21:05 francharb but i'm going to test it
21:05 jcamins I don't really have time to troubleshoot, though.
21:05 larryb tcohen, yeah, and I've done it on other 12.04, but on this one it doesn't want to.
21:05 francharb ok! Thanks cait!!
21:05 cait and if you could check master that woudl be a plus
21:06 francharb ok!
21:06 jcamins larryb: you checked your apt policy and everything looked normal?
21:06 francharb thank you cait !!
21:06 larryb jcamins, yes
21:07 jcamins larryb: very odd, because the version of those packages in precise depends on perl 5.14.
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21:12 tcohen larryb: apt-cache policy libreadonly-xs-perl 's output?
21:12 larryb hmm I'm thinking something in the apt has gotten screwed up. I'm going to trying wiping it back to base install and start over.
21:12 larryb thanks #koha
21:13 tcohen larryb: that'd do it, definitely :-D
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21:31 francharb time to go
21:31 francharb see you
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21:40 rangi i still stand by this tweet[…]84159149412864000
21:44 cait eythian: around?
21:45 wizzyrea *nod*
21:45 cait rangi: need cookies?
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22:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12438 - Bad encoding in acquisition basket <[…]65517554b722c66cd>
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22:27 pianohacker does anyone know if the issue with doing db_dependent tests using DBIC (where DBIC and C4::Context used separate dbh's) has been fixed?
22:28 rangi yep gmcharlt fixed it
22:28 eythian hi
22:28 wahanui what's up, eythian
22:28 pianohacker sweet, thanks rangi
22:28 eythian cait: am now, sup?
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22:34 cait eythian: packages hate me?
22:34 eythian yeah, I built that in specially
22:34 cait ah... could have guessed that
22:34 cait my system is a current debian, so old apache
22:34 cait no .conf on my sites
22:35 cait i had problems running sudo koha-disable instance
22:35 cait /usr/sbin/koha-disable: 35: [: =: argument expected
22:35 eythian well, it should always be .conf now.
22:35 eythian the scripts will just find it no matter which way it's used.
22:35 eythian (depending on the Koha version, though, I don't know if it went back to 3.14 or not.)
22:36 cait all i can say is that it didnd't work :(
22:36 cait and then i tried koha-dump
22:36 eythian what koha version?
22:36 cait Dumping Koha site bib1:
22:36 cait * DB to /var/spool/koha/bib1/bib1-2014-07-15.sql.gz
22:36 cait * configs, logs to /var/spool/koha/bib1/bib1-2014-07-15.tar.gz
22:36 cait tar: etc/apache2/sites-available/bib1.conf: Kann stat nicht ausführen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
22:37 cait i started with 3.14 and then updated to 3.16 when it was released
22:37 cait but when i ran koha-dump i had done an a2dissite on the instances to deactivate them
22:37 eythian hmm
22:38 cait mostly just letting you know now - as i have figured out a way to do it wihtout package commands :)
22:38 eythian keep in mind that koha-disable and a2dissite work quite differently
22:39 cait i know
22:39 cait well kidn of know
22:39 cait i expected it, but it seemed the easiest way after step 1 didn't work
22:39 eythian uhm
22:40 eythian there's no way you should be able to get that error message from koha-disable, I should think
22:40 * eythian checks something
22:40 cait but...
22:41 eythian can you tell me what that line is in the specific script you have installed?
22:48 eythian (I'm wondering if you somehow have a slightly oddball version.
22:48 eythian )
22:48 eythian Also, how do you not have .conf? was this from saying no when it asked if you wanted to convert them?
22:48 cait i don't remember if i said no, but i guess i did
22:48 cait why do we offer an option that you should not use? :)
22:49 eythian because I don't really want it silently changing people's systems :)
22:49 eythian however, it should be happy to work in both cases.
22:50 cait if [ "$instancefile" = ""]; then
22:50 eythian right, that's correct.
22:50 eythian I don't really understand how that incantation can cause that error though
22:50 eythian ohh...
22:50 * eythian tries something, somehow.
22:51 eythian hmm nope
22:53 cait sorry for giving you riddles :)
22:53 cait i really need to lseep now
22:54 cait it's nothing urgent, but maybe someone else runs into it sometime
22:54 cait good night #koha
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