IRC log for #koha, 2014-06-27

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00:36 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
00:36 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
00:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #32: FIXED in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/32/
00:36 jenkins_koha Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 12143 - hiding alternate address on patron self registration doesn't hide heading
00:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12143 minor, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , hiding alternate address on patron self registration doesn't hide heading
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02:03 pianohacker good night
02:03 wahanui If you feel like someone is looking through your window, it's OK, it's just me.
03:40 eythian just spent 20 minutes battling with git. Turned out it was doing the right thing, and I was wrong.
03:51 eythian New packages uploading
03:52 eythian uploaded.
05:00 ashimema very man of you to amit eythian.
05:00 ashimema s/amit/admin/
05:00 ashimema s/amit/admit/
05:00 ashimema even
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06:20 eythian hi ashimema, laurence, cait
06:21 cait hi eythian
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06:52 reiveune hello
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06:56 alex_a bonjour
06:56 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
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07:03 fridolin hie all
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07:07 Joubu o/
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07:24 gaetan_B hello
07:24 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B
07:31 nlegrand Bonjour #koha !
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07:38 * magnuse waves
07:38 magnuse @wunder boo
07:38 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on June 27, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:38 magnuse nope, that should be "not a cloud in sight"
07:39 magnuse and no wind
07:39 magnuse just a beautiful summer day!
07:40 magnuse and the last day of work before my 7 week paternity leave :-)
07:53 cait :)
07:53 cait have a good time!!
07:53 magnuse :-)
07:55 cait fridolin++
07:55 magnuse gmcharlt++
07:55 cait fridolin: maybe just create a page for TT?
07:58 fridolin cait: yep. There is also Tip & Tricks it contains actually only a git paragraphe
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09:46 magnuse heh, oslo yesterday:[…]er/vaeret/5749662
09:50 nlegrand magnuse: ha! So much for global warming! ;)
09:56 ashimema How does one enable the public z39.50 service under a package install?
09:56 ashimema usual uncomment the lines in the koha-conf?
10:03 cait i think so
10:03 cait in my new 3.12 version... why are so many peopl einstalling 3.12?
10:08 magnuse because they don't like pie?
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10:59 bgkriegel hi
10:59 wahanui salut, bgkriegel
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11:22 barton morkning bgkriegel, wahanui, collum, Viktor
11:25 bgkriegel morning barton :)
11:28 * barton just greeted a bot. go figger.
11:33 barton Are you trying to win the turing test, wahanui?
11:33 wahanui OK, barton.
11:33 barton heh.
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11:48 * magnuse thinks wahanui is not quite there yet
11:48 magnuse hiya cait and tcohen
11:48 tcohen magnuse!
11:48 wahanui magnuse is, like, a Norwegian giant
11:48 tcohen hi
11:48 khall mornin all
11:48 khall !
11:48 * cait is not really here
11:49 * magnuse neither
11:49 magnuse bonjour khall
11:53 tcohen mornin khall
11:54 magnuse @wunder boo
11:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on June 27, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
11:55 magnuse @wunder marseille
11:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 30.8°C (1:54 PM CEST on June 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 6%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
11:55 magnuse 30!
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12:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12443: (QA followup) Unit tests for _build_initial_query <[…]3e101eff7912cfc05> / Bug 12443 - Initial re-factoring of buildQuery <[…]37ef93c4aecca0e07>
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12:17 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:21 magnuse time to go - have fun #koha!
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12:24 oleonard But... but I just got here!
12:24 cait :)
12:24 * cait hands oleonard cookies
12:24 oleonard Yay, breakfast cookies!
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12:36 * oleonard marvels at an early-morning pianohacker
12:37 pianohacker hehehe
12:38 pianohacker joys of being on the east coast this week for work :)
12:38 oleonard Welcome to the Eastern time zone I hope you enjoy your stay
12:42 cait pianohacker: where are you?
12:42 pianohacker oleonard: It's been good, though leaving today.
12:42 pianohacker cait: In Connecticut, working with one of the sponsors of Rancor
12:42 cait ah,and on rancor too?
12:43 pianohacker yup! Lots of big and small improvements coming out of all this
12:44 pianohacker Rancor will be able to slice, dice and fricasee MARC like nobody's business
12:47 oleonard
12:51 pianohacker it's the small things
12:54 cait :)
12:55 cait pianohacker: forgot to check that last time - can it link to authorities already?
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13:58 fridolin hie pianohacker
13:58 ashimema hi pianohacker..
13:59 ashimema hi fridolin
13:59 fridolin you know that keyboard contest contines in Biblibre, I changed mine for a new odd curved :[…]desktop/L5V-00001
13:59 fridolin :D
14:02 ashimema shiny
14:02 oleonard Keyboard contest?
14:08 pianohacker hi fridolin ashimema
14:49 * pianohacker perks up at noticing the words keyboard contest :D
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14:58 bibliwho has anyone managed to use the API to update item information (952) and not just biblio records?
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15:02 oleonard What do you mean "use the API" bibliwho?
15:02 bibliwho MARCEdit uses the API to integrate directly with a Koha catalog
15:03 bibliwho bib record updates work perfectly; changes to 952 data do not
15:03 * oleonard has no experience with it
15:03 bibliwho unfortunate as we have a number of batch fixes to 952 data on our to-do list
15:04 oleonard Can you use the batch item modification tool?
15:05 bibliwho nope -- changes for each record are different
15:05 bibliwho we're changing the format of our call  numbers
15:06 pianohacker bibliwho: which version of Koha are you on?
15:07 bibliwho pianohacker: v. 3.14.05
15:08 pianohacker bibliwho: MARCEdit has to pass an additional flag to tell Koha to update item information as well as bib info; if it's not doing that your options are limited
15:09 bibliwho there is an Update item info dialog box, but checking it apparently has no effect
15:10 bibliwho I can follow up with Terry Reese ...
15:11 pianohacker hmm. That checkbox makes me think it should be sending that flag
15:11 pianohacker out of curiosity, when you load the records from Koha, how are you doing so and are they coming through with their 952 tags?
15:13 bibliwho yes, coming through w/ tags
15:13 bibliwho doing so directly thru MARCEdit's Search (i.e., download) functionality
15:19 pianohacker bibliwho: Hmm. Okay. It should be working then, but you'll probably want to follow up with Terry
15:19 bibliwho will do. thx.
15:27 reiveune bye
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16:03 gaetan_B bye!
16:24 oleonard khall around?
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16:56 khall oleonard: I'm here!
16:57 oleonard Hi khall, I'm wondering if you have ever figured out what all the various accounttype codes are
16:57 oleonard I'm looking at Bug 12429
16:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12429 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , patron seeing fines codes
16:57 khall oleonard: yep
16:58 oleonard Do you have that documented somewhere?
16:58 khall looking
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17:00 khall A  = account management fee
17:00 khall F = Fine
17:00 khall FU = Fine that is currently accruing
17:00 khall L = lost fee
17:00 khall M = Sundry ( misc )
17:00 khall N = New card fee
17:00 khall Rent = Rental fee
17:01 khall For the accounts rewrite I've converted them into a self documenting enumerated datatype-ish perl module
17:01 khall like Koha::Accounts::DebitTypes::Rental
17:02 oleonard I also find C, CR, LR, and Pay
17:03 khall heh, I forgot about the credit types, one moment
17:04 khall FOR = Forgiven
17:04 khall LR = Lost item fee refund
17:04 khall Pay = Payment
17:04 khall PAY = Payment
17:04 khall WO = Writeoff
17:04 khall W = Writeoff
17:04 khall C = Credit
17:04 khall CR = Credit
17:04 oleonard Good grief what a mess.
17:05 khall indeed, that's why I *really* want to see the accounts rewrite pushed asap. I really really cleans all this up
17:05 oleonard I also notice checks for accounttype = 'O' or 'FN' but no instances of those codes being inserted
17:05 khall I think it might be a signifier for Koha 4.0
17:05 khall I've never seen those codes. odd
17:09 oleonard Speaking of bug 6427, is there a reason why there are so many separate patches? Is there one all-encompassing test plan for all?
17:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Rewrite of the accounts system
17:11 oleonard I recall rangi saying once that Koha 1.0 got an actual audit of its accounting system. I wonder if I'm remembering correctly.
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17:21 yhager Is there a way to configure koha to send email notifications before patrons accounts expire?
17:36 pianohacker khall: holy crapbuckets that patch series. Is there a gitweb with the code?
17:49 oleonard That bug has a HUGE barrier to entry because of the testing required.
17:52 oleonard I wonder if we could organize a global bug 6427 testing day in which everyone we can round up hits the same test system with everything they can.
17:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Rewrite of the accounts system
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18:04 * oleonard grumbles about two-space indentation in some recent template patches
18:12 pianohacker ze guidelines!
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21:53 yhager Is there a way to configure koha to send email notifications before patrons accounts expire?
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23:29 eythian yhager: no way that I'm aware of. I could see it being a useful addition though
23:30 yhager eythian: Great. Anything I can do to help?
23:31 eythian hmm. Add a bug for it, and (develop|sponsor) the feature is the ususal way.
23:31 eythian Adding a bug for it is worthwhile even if you can't do the second half, it might be something someone does just because they have free time or something.
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23:44 yhager Okay, I'll add a bug. If I find the time, I'll try to add a patch to add it. Thanks!
23:46 eythian that'd be great :)
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