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dcook |
Quick question if anyone is around... |
| 02:34 |
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dcook |
If you're testing a patch and something is wrong, do you fail it or sign off with a follow-up fix? |
| 03:01 |
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rangi |
http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/re[…]aland/2014p051675 |
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rangi |
felt that |
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dcook |
Apparently, I've had earthquakes happen around me, but I've only known because I was told afterward. How might that feel? |
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dcook |
6.3 that is? |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
"eythian: The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding." |
| 03:49 |
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dcook |
rangi: When might the bug count on the dashboard turn yellow/green? |
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dcook |
All things considered...Koha is actually rather impressive. We might have quite a few bugs to sign off, but the oldest is from October 24th. That's not even 3 months ago. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
dcook: I just commented on one of your bugs. ;) |
| 04:27 |
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dcook |
Cool. Which one? |
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mtompset |
11575 |
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mtompset |
see also bug 6800 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800 major, P3, ---, jcamins, CLOSED WONTFIX, Koha authentication should handle proxies better |
| 04:29 |
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dcook |
Yes, I already wrote that in the first comment. |
| 04:30 |
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dcook |
I think it makes more sense to use the system preference, as we use it elsewhere in Koha. |
| 04:32 |
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mtompset |
If we handled proxies properly, I would think that using the URL directly would make more sense. ;) |
| 04:32 |
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mtompset |
But since we don't, I agree that using the system preference makes more sense. |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
Perhaps. I think that we would need to check through Koha and see why we're using the system preference instead, so that we don't spit out links with two different URLs |
| 04:52 |
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mtompset |
hey, do you have any brilliant thoughts on how to get the framework code or biblionumber if you only have a MARC record? |
| 04:55 |
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mtompset |
I don't want to have to edit a whole bunch of files to add another parameter, but it is looking like I may have to do that. :( |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
I would say... |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
first question? |
| 04:58 |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 05:02 |
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mtompset |
make opac-detail hide the same things that opac-MARCdetail hides. |
| 05:03 |
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mtompset |
The problem is GetMarcSubjects, GetMarcNotes, etc. don't check the hidden field in marc_subfield_structure. |
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mtompset |
They grab directly from the koha fields. |
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mtompset |
So, in order to hide things properly, I may need to pass the biblionumber to those calls, so I can grab the correct hidden field. |
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mtompset |
And then use that in those functions to filter out what shouldn't be shown. :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
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cait |
hi mtompset |
| 05:12 |
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mtompset |
Well, better sleep now. |
| 05:13 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook cait. :) |
| 05:20 |
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dcook |
hey cait |
| 05:34 |
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cait |
hi dcook |
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cait |
i wanted to add it to your bug but forgot |
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cait |
there had been some discussion about opacbaseurl on irc |
| 05:34 |
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cait |
because i ran into a problem with the cart/list emails there |
| 05:34 |
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dcook |
Oh? |
| 05:35 |
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cait |
bug 5010 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Incomplete links in carts and lists sent from the staff client |
| 05:36 |
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cait |
when i worked on this |
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cait |
galen suggested doing a pref then |
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cait |
haven't taken a closer look at oyur patches yet I am afraid :( |
| 05:37 |
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dcook |
Mine uses the system preference if it is set. If it isn't set, it uses the SERVER_NAME |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
Although if I had been smarter, I would've done it like this |
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dcook |
1) system preference 2) if no, syspref - check for http_forwarded_x_host 3) if no http_forwarded_x_host - server_name |
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cait |
not sure if it'ssmarter |
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cait |
part of the discussion was about multibranchsetups |
| 05:39 |
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cait |
with different opac urls |
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cait |
i think |
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dcook |
I think you mentioned them being able to use apache config to do that |
| 05:40 |
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cait |
I am not sure i get all the ifs thens that are needed here - that's why I chose my solution and didn't clean it up totally :) |
| 05:42 |
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cait |
aah |
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cait |
dcook: i think the main problem was fnding the right opac url from staff |
| 05:42 |
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cait |
because we are using links to the opac in the list and cart email and on the opac detail screen i think |
| 05:42 |
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cait |
http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]3-12-09#i_1435556 |
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cait |
staff detail |
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dcook |
Sorry what line am I looking for? |
| 05:44 |
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dcook |
OPACBaseURL is a bit of a mess.. |
| 05:44 |
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cait |
sorry i am confusing :) |
| 05:44 |
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cait |
yes it is |
| 05:44 |
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cait |
it drove me nuts trying to fix the stupid links |
| 05:44 |
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cait |
cait: one issue re your last comment -- constructing a base URL using $ENV{'SERVER_NAME'} from the *staff* interface won't necessarily give the correct result |
| 05:44 |
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cait |
that's hwat galen said |
| 05:45 |
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dcook |
"we acutally have links into the opac for the intranet mails as well" |
| 05:45 |
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dcook |
I've been thinking about that as well |
| 05:45 |
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dcook |
I imagine there might be other cases where we use OPACBaseURL without a http request |
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cait |
hm why without a http request? |
| 05:46 |
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cait |
sorry, i am really confusing here |
| 05:46 |
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dcook |
No, not at all |
| 05:46 |
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cait |
but i thoguth maybe the discussion had some interesting bits for you |
| 05:46 |
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dcook |
You're probably right |
| 05:46 |
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cait |
and hoping someone might finally sign off my patch or improve it :) |
| 05:46 |
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dcook |
Just if there's a time where a cronjob is generating a value for OPACBaseURL, but I don't know if that would happen |
| 05:47 |
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cait |
hm i think we don't have that yet |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
Well, I know I don't like Maxime's solution |
| 05:47 |
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cait |
but it seems that when the intranet files generate a url into the opac it's also a bit complicated |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
Hardcoding http isn't a good idea |
| 05:47 |
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cait |
yeah that's why i did the alternative patches |
| 05:47 |
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cait |
as another proposal how to solve it |
| 05:47 |
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cait |
not in a perfect way tho.. but maybe improving it some for now |
| 05:48 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I'm not sure |
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dcook |
I'd probably prefer to use CGI's https() method rather than a system preference |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
Then again, with a proxy, that could be a problem too |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
Although there might be a forwarded value for that as well.. |
| 05:49 |
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cait |
dcook: but would that work if you try to determine the OPAC uses https from the intranet? |
| 05:50 |
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cait |
i imagine it woudl just tell you if the staff odes use httsp |
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dcook |
Mmm, that's true |
| 05:51 |
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dcook |
I keep forgetting about that crossing over from the intranet to the opac |
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cait |
as you said... it's messy |
| 05:52 |
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dcook |
I wonder how much interrogation of the apache config could be done |
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dcook |
I suppose some people might have SSL mostly set up without actually using it though.. |
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cait |
@later tell ashimema - I think bug 11519 is a duplicate to your development, but I can't find the bug, maybe you can? |
| 07:02 |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:05 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (8:00 AM CET on January 20, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002 hPa (Rising). |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 20, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
nice... |
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cait |
ah |
| 07:10 |
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cait |
finally a real winter? |
| 07:10 |
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magnuse |
hehe yeah |
| 07:10 |
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magnuse |
almost too real ;-) |
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cait |
it's supposed to get colder here now too |
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cait |
morning ashimema |
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cait |
i was thinking about you like 5 minutes ago :) |
| 07:12 |
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ashimema |
that was quck cait.. my computer hasn't fully started yet.. |
| 07:13 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 07:13 |
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ashimema |
glad to know i'm in your thoughts ;) |
| 07:14 |
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cait |
always ;) |
| 07:14 |
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ashimema |
what bugs? |
| 07:14 |
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wahanui |
somebody said bugs was http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ter-a-new-release |
| 07:15 |
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ashimema |
looks like huggin just caught up ;) |
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cait |
i think i was thnking about 10477 |
| 07:17 |
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cait |
bug 10477 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10477 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kohapatch, Failed QA , Increased flexibility for upload of Staged MARC records |
| 07:23 |
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magnuse |
hm, what happened to http://lists.katipo.co.nz/ ? |
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cait |
bbiab |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune paul_p paul_p_ |
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reiveune |
salut magnuse :) |
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paul_p_ |
I don't understand why 3 xirc are opening when I switch my computer ON... |
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paul_p_ |
'morning #koha |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
what's up, alex_a |
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magnuse |
paul_p_: to help you be 3x more effective? ;-) |
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reiveune |
gaetan_B: salut, tu me tiens au courant pour chaillot stp |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
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cait |
hi magnus :) |
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Joubu |
hello |
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cait |
hi Joubu |
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nlegrand |
Hey #koha |
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cait |
hi nlegrand |
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| 09:11 |
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petter |
good day koha! |
| 09:11 |
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cait |
god morgen petter |
| 09:11 |
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petter |
hi kathrin |
| 09:11 |
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cait |
oh please no h :) |
| 09:12 |
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petter |
sorry! |
| 09:12 |
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petter |
katrin |
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cait |
perfect :) |
| 09:12 |
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cait |
just one of my pet peeves... people keep adding that extra letter all the time |
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petter |
I'll never do it again! |
| 09:14 |
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petter |
I promise |
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cait |
heh thx :) |
| 09:16 |
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cait |
ah and btw... we need more sign offs people... http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 09:16 |
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cait |
or qa will run out of things to qa soon ;) |
| 09:27 |
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petter |
cait: I'm on it! |
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cait |
:) |
| 09:27 |
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petter |
Speaking of |
| 09:27 |
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petter |
There are many patches that changes the database, run updatedatabase.pl |
| 09:27 |
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petter |
sp |
| 09:27 |
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petter |
so |
| 09:27 |
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petter |
Is there an automated way to roll back changes? |
| 09:27 |
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cait |
hm not yet |
| 09:28 |
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petter |
Or do I have to manually dump the database and import it after |
| 09:28 |
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petter |
oh, too bad |
| 09:28 |
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cait |
what i do is a mysqldump if i have a structural change to test |
| 09:28 |
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cait |
and reload the database after my test |
| 09:28 |
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petter |
Would help speed up the process |
| 09:28 |
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cait |
for sysprefs i mostly leave them in or delete them manually |
| 09:28 |
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cait |
i think it woudl be really hard in some cases to provide an undo |
| 09:29 |
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petter |
I was just thinking of a script to automat dumb and import |
| 09:29 |
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petter |
like koha-db-set-restore-point |
| 09:29 |
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petter |
and |
| 09:29 |
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petter |
koha-db-restore |
| 09:29 |
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cait |
hmnot sure, maybe something in the packages could |
| 09:29 |
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petter |
Maybe I should stop complaining and start do it myself! |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
petter: i think writing a script for your personal use is probably quite easy, a general solution might be a bit harder |
| 09:33 |
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petter |
yes you're right |
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Yaxh |
Hi, I am Yaxh :) new to koha... |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
hi Yaxh |
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petter |
hi Yaxh |
| 09:37 |
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petter |
welcome |
| 09:37 |
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* magnuse |
started on a testing script once, but have not been maintaining it: https://github.com/MagnusEnger[…]b/master/testkoha |
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magnuse |
koha in occitan - very cool! |
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cait |
:) |
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paul_p |
"hackfest in Marseille" officially announced and registration open : http://www.biblibre.com/en/blo[…]st-marseille-2014 ! |
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magnuse |
paul_p++ |
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cait |
paul_p++ |
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paul_p |
magnuse & cait = now, I'm waiting for YOUR registration ;-) |
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cait |
paul_p: I woudl love to attend, but I don't know yet if i can |
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cait |
hm the koha mailing list archive still seems down :( |
| 11:25 |
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cait |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha |
| 11:29 |
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cait |
hm katipo's website seems also not working well |
| 11:32 |
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magnuse |
oops |
| 11:38 |
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gaetan_B |
hmmm there's a confition where the accordion for editing subfields in the framework structure is misbehaving but i can't characterize it yet |
| 11:38 |
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gaetan_B |
has anyone else seen this ? |
| 11:39 |
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gaetan_B |
once i want to unfold advanced constraints everything gets hidden, and i can't unhide any, the headers are still there, clicking on them activates them |
| 11:39 |
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gaetan_B |
but the content doesn't unfold |
| 11:42 |
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gaetan_B |
maybe it's linked to bug 11570 |
| 11:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQueryUI to latest version in the staff client |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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tcohen |
cait++ # such a good qa manager |
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magnuse |
¡hola tcohen! |
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tcohen |
hi magnuse |
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wahanui |
hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo? |
| 12:08 |
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tcohen |
do u plan to hack on the apache 2.4 bug? |
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tcohen |
i ask just because I'll be busy for some days on bug 11096 |
| 12:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra |
| 12:10 |
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magnuse |
tcohen: not really - i don't think i would know how to move existing installations from no .conf to .conf extension |
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tcohen |
the way to solve it is to "fallback" to non .conf for old setups |
| 12:11 |
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tcohen |
if you happen to plan working on that just let me know |
| 12:12 |
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tcohen |
i'll do it otherwise as soon as I finish working on that bug |
| 12:13 |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: do u know of anyone that can write UNIMARC unit tests? |
| 12:17 |
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magnuse |
i'll be working full speed on bug 11401 for the next week, so you'll probably beat me to it (which is a good thing, since i would be fairly clueless about the fallback strategy too...) |
| 12:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add support for Norwegian national library card |
| 12:19 |
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tcohen |
magnuse: that's great |
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tcohen |
jcamins: r u around? |
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tcohen |
#koha: anyone with UNIMARC knowledge around? |
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tcohen |
*+++++++++++/* |
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cait |
tcohen: glad you are not grumpy :) |
| 12:35 |
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tcohen |
sorry for that, they where just cleaning my desk and pushed some keys |
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tcohen |
cait: i need to write regression tests for UNIMARC searches |
| 12:38 |
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tcohen |
and know nothing about UNIMARC |
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cait |
hm not sure it needs to be very specific |
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cait |
there are records in the sandbox sample database |
| 12:51 |
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cait |
i use those :) |
| 12:51 |
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cait |
you could just 'blow up' one of those records maybe |
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cait |
tcohen: you can download the sandbox databaess from git |
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tcohen |
where? |
| 13:16 |
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tcohen |
sandboxes? |
| 13:16 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that sandboxes is fantastic for testing! Kudos #koha |
| 13:16 |
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tcohen |
sandboxes? |
| 13:16 |
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wahanui |
sandboxes is fantastic for testing! Kudos #koha |
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cait |
tcohen: it#s on our git |
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tcohen |
koha.git? |
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cait |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4282be80922cb457 |
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tcohen |
thanks cait |
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* tcohen |
is gettting grumpy |
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tcohen |
my dev setup fr UNIMARC using GRS-1 for biblios |
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tcohen |
seems to give me an error "Record syntax not supported" |
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magnuse |
tcohen: did you set marcflavour = unimarc? |
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magnuse |
(the marcflavour syspref, that is) |
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tcohen |
magnuse: thanks, but I'm using a default setup (choosing unimarc in the right places) |
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tcohen |
and right now, my problem is talking to zebra using yaz-client |
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magnuse |
ah, ok |
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tcohen |
joubu |
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tcohen |
Joubu: around? |
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Joubu |
tcohen: yep |
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cait |
ie-- |
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cait |
grr. |
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* tcohen |
needs more coffee so he can focus on UNIMARC unit tests... |
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alex_a |
cait++ |
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tcohen |
need a UNIMARCguru... pleaseeeeee |
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tcohen |
free croisants for the volunteers? :-P |
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gaetan_B |
tcohen: is it a question that could be answered in a few minutes ? |
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tcohen |
yes |
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tcohen |
can u provide me a full koha - marc mapping? |
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gaetan_B |
hmmm yes |
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tcohen |
the default is lacking several items |
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gaetan_B |
there should be one in the install files actually |
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gaetan_B |
ok, we actually recycle it in different ways depending on the customer's wishes |
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tcohen |
booksellerid, cn_source, cn_sort and so on |
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tcohen |
so there's is no complete default |
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gaetan_B |
but maybe we could make the default more complete indeed |
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tcohen |
I need at least something more complete so I can make proper unit tests for unimarc |
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tcohen |
no need for a patch for me, just information, so I can write tests for 11096 |
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tcohen |
where do u live gaetan_B? |
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gaetan_B |
tcohen: paris :) |
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gaetan_B |
i'm reading the bz in order to get what it is about |
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tcohen |
so, maybe I can actually give you the croissant |
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gaetan_B |
ooh |
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gaetan_B |
where are you ? |
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tcohen |
argentina |
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wahanui |
argentina is in for kohacon13 |
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gaetan_B |
:D |
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gaetan_B |
that's one very far croissant |
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tcohen |
but will be in paris in a couple of month, for a few days thou |
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gaetan_B |
aaah |
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cait |
tcohen: intall french sample files |
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tcohen |
=) |
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cait |
i think they are the most complete |
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tcohen |
ok cait, will give it a try |
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gaetan_B |
tcohen: do cn_source and cn_sort really need to be linked to some unimarc fields ? |
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tcohen |
i'm not sure gaetan_B, i know nothing about UNIMARC |
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gaetan_B |
damn tcohen you're right it seems |
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gaetan_B |
it should be mapped to something for callnumber sorting to work |
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tcohen |
as cait said, maybe we expect people using UNIMARC use it in french |
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gaetan_B |
there's no mapping in the defaults for french eitehr |
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tcohen |
will u fill a bug for this? |
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gaetan_B |
tcohen: i think i should |
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gaetan_B |
since it means callnumber sorting is broken out of the in unimarc |
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gaetan_B |
tcohen: what are the other mappings that are missing for your tests ? |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 172.22.66.78 pasted "UNIMARC mappings" (35 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/94 |
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tcohen |
the empty ones are the ones missing, I'm not sur eif they are needed or not |
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tcohen |
this are the mappings that MARC21 unit tests set |
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tcohen |
I want to replicate for UNIMARC so we can have decent Unit Tests for UNIMARC |
| 16:11 |
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gaetan_B |
are items subfields normalized in marc21 ? (they are not in unimarc, there is only a "recommandation") |
| 16:12 |
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tcohen |
disclaimer: I migth be all wrong, but have good will on improving things |
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tcohen |
gaetan_B: this fields have default mappings in MARC21 as they do in UNIMARC |
| 16:13 |
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tcohen |
and can be changed of course to match some library's needs |
| 16:13 |
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tcohen |
a good default should be enough for both the users and the tests |
| 16:13 |
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gaetan_B |
what i mean is a lot of these fields are not mapped by default because they don't match any standard |
| 16:13 |
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gaetan_B |
that's not a good reason not to set up something by default in koha though |
| 16:15 |
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tcohen |
i'm not sure what to say, gaetan_B. I guess I could just leave them as they are now and start looking what is broken in a default UNIMARC setup... |
| 16:15 |
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tcohen |
that'd be a good thing actually |
| 16:18 |
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gaetan_B |
tcohen: ok let's create a bz for this, something like "bette defaults for unimarc items mapping" |
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gaetan_B |
cn_sort, damaged are issues |
| 16:18 |
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gaetan_B |
but we might as well fiw a few more things on the way |
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gaetan_B |
i'm creating it tcohen |
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gaetan_B |
i am afraid this is not going to sort your problem though :) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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druthb |
hi, mtompset. :) |
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mtompset |
Does anyone have a framework defined where tagfield=773 or 461 have a defined kohafield value in marc_subfield_structure? |
| 18:34 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, druthb. |
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tcohen |
461 is for unimarc? |
| 18:34 |
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mtompset |
yes. |
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mtompset |
I don't really care which. |
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mtompset |
I just want to know what the kohafield value is supposed to be. |
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mtompset |
I'm looking at GetMarcHosts() |
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tcohen |
maybe use print p($kohafield) ? :-P |
| 18:36 |
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mtompset |
I would like to grab the proper marc_subfield_structure record, such that I can look at hidden. |
| 18:36 |
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mtompset |
tcohen: I looked at my DB and they are all blank or NULL. |
| 18:37 |
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mtompset |
That doesn't really help me write nice generic code. |
| 18:37 |
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tcohen |
im' sorry mtompset, i'm deadlocked here with other stuff |
| 18:37 |
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mtompset |
Not a problem. |
| 18:38 |
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mtompset |
Perhaps I'll just ignore that one for now, and keep going. :) |
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* tcohen |
always tries to keep going |
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tcohen |
druthb: question on internationalization |
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mtompset |
No questions. just do it! ;) |
| 18:40 |
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druthb |
ask, tcohen. |
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druthb |
mtompset: don't make me get the pointy stick out! |
| 18:40 |
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tcohen |
facets show "Label (number of records)" |
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tcohen |
and if it is right to left they are broken |
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mtompset |
Sorry, I believe gmcharlt fried them, last I checked. :P |
| 18:41 |
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tcohen |
something like ") Label number of records)" |
| 18:41 |
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magnuse |
fried facets? yum! |
| 18:41 |
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mtompset |
no... fried the pointy sticks. |
| 18:42 |
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druthb |
color me unsurprised, tcohen. RTL display generally doesn't cope well with parens and other punctuation. |
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druthb |
could be something dodgy in the po, though. |
| 18:42 |
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tcohen |
is it ok to show them the same as left-to-right? |
| 18:42 |
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druthb |
I would think so, yes. Might want to confirm that with an actual RTL speaker. |
| 18:42 |
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tcohen |
I think they can be fixed wrapping each thing in a span |
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druthb |
mtompset: I'm a woodworker. Plenty of sticks. |
| 18:42 |
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tcohen |
label & count of course |
| 18:43 |
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tcohen |
just need to know if that's how it is supposed to show |
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druthb |
tcohen, that might well fix it for you, using a pair of spans. |
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druthb |
I would expect (#) Label |
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tcohen |
if it is mixed with LTR facets too? |
| 18:44 |
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druthb |
yeah, I'd think so. The layout would look tidier, certainly. |
| 18:44 |
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druthb |
And when I was dealing with Arabic readers, I found that *even in English*, they like stuff flush-right more often than not. |
| 18:45 |
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tcohen |
oh |
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tcohen |
I use an english template, with mixed RTL and LTR facets |
| 18:46 |
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tcohen |
haven't tried how bad does an RTL template show this |
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druthb |
The text within a string might be either way, depending on what it's written in, of course. But an overall RTL layout seems to make things smoother for RTL-centric readers. |
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druthb |
When I was *in* Jordan, we had a number of crash-test dummies for that sort of thing; Ihab would call in one of the office folks, and we'd say, "does this make sense?" |
| 18:50 |
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tcohen |
yes druth, i'd be great to ask them |
| 18:51 |
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tcohen |
how should facets show in both RTL and LTR contexts, for RTL labels and counts |
| 18:51 |
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tcohen |
once we know that, we can fix it :-D |
| 18:52 |
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tcohen |
i filled bug 11117 after hearing you in reno :-D |
| 18:52 |
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druthb |
I would assume that semi-random Arabs would be kind of scarce in your part of Argentina. |
| 18:52 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Right to left text in facets + facet count = mixed text |
| 18:53 |
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tcohen |
indeed |
| 18:53 |
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tcohen |
oh, the screenshot I attached in the bug looks better than I thought :-P |
| 18:54 |
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druthb |
I would kick it out to the koha-translate list, perhaps, and ask for some Arabic input. Karam Qubsi used to be a member of that list, and was willing to talk about such things. |
| 18:55 |
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tcohen |
ok, I'll ask about this on the list, please help me if they are not too responsive :-D |
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druthb |
:P |
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* tcohen |
loves lobbying |
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* druthb |
hunts for a way to blame cait, but fails. |
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* druthb |
blames cait anyway |
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* tcohen |
knows cait had a hard day today. Will blame her tomorrow |
| 18:59 |
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druthb |
fair 'nuf. |
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* druthb |
blames talljoy instead |
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* tcohen |
halts digging into UNIMARC unit tests assuming the problem is on the tests NOT UNIMARC related |
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tcohen |
bye felllows, bbl |
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smrt |
is it possible to run a php based website on the same port as koha just in a different directory? |
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mtompset |
That's what name based virtual hosts are about in Apache, aren't they? |
| 19:18 |
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smrt |
oh so i can just put two different virtual hosts in with the same port? |
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smrt |
with a different document root? |
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mtompset |
As far as I know, yes. |
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mtompset |
but the NAME has to be different. |
| 19:34 |
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mtompset |
YAY! I think I have it. |
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mtompset |
I think I have hiding mostly working correctly. |
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magnuse |
heh, gmail keeps giving me ads for holidays in nz. sigh... |
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smrt |
ok thanks. and happy holidays? |
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* mtompset |
laughs. |
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mtompset |
Lucky you, magnuse. ;) |
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* magnuse |
wishes he could say "gmail keeps giving me holidays in nz" |
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* magnuse |
has an empty inbox and runs away from his computer before it starts filling up again |
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* mtompset |
smirks. |
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mtompset |
Don't we all want holidays? :) |
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Bahruz |
hi all |
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Bahruz |
i need help about 3.14.00.000 |
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Bahruz |
koha 3.14.00.000 |
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mtompset |
Wow... that's useful. |
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* mtompset |
grumbles. |
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mtompset |
OPACXSLTDetailsDisplay --- GRRRR. |
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Bahruz |
i need support with money |
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Bahruz |
info caspinet.com |
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Bahruz |
it's my mail |
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Bahruz |
plz help me my friends |
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* cait |
waves |
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Bahruz |
i'm waiting |
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mtompset |
Bahruz: you don't even state what you need help with. |
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Bahruz |
i installed koha 3.14.00 |
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mtompset |
And? |
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Bahruz |
when i'm trying add biblio record Software error: |
| 20:01 |
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Bahruz |
Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2507. |
| 20:01 |
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Bahruz |
i dont know what i must do? |
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mtompset |
Bahruz, are you logged in as the system user or as a superlibrarian that you created after installing? |
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Bahruz |
i created user as superlibrarian permisson |
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mtompset |
And then you logged in as that user? |
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Bahruz |
yea |
| 20:02 |
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mtompset |
And then did you create libraries? |
| 20:03 |
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Bahruz |
yes |
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Bahruz |
i installed koha for our university library |
| 20:03 |
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mtompset |
And patron categories? |
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wahanui |
patron categories is probably using a different template plugin, isn't it? |
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mtompset |
wahanui: forget and patron categories |
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wahanui |
mtompset, I didn't have anything matching and patron categories |
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mtompset |
wahanui: forget patron categories |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot patron categories |
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mtompset |
and all the other things you need to set up by default? |
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Bahruz |
i used "root" patron category for my user |
| 20:05 |
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mtompset |
Okay, so you did all this default setup stuff. |
| 20:05 |
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mtompset |
Then what did you do? |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
did you change the default frameworks? |
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Bahruz |
i created new unimarc framework |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
and did you create a patron category with the name root? |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
oh unimarc |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
what language did you install koha in? |
| 20:06 |
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Bahruz |
and tried add biblio recod |
| 20:06 |
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Bahruz |
in english |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
where ar you located? |
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Bahruz |
in Azerbaijan |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
are libraries in azerbaijan generally using unimarc? |
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Bahruz |
yea |
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cait |
aah |
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cait |
I didn't knwo that |
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cait |
a lot of countries are using marc21 |
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Bahruz |
cait, are you librarian? |
| 20:08 |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
my guess is, that it could be a mistake in the english frameworks |
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cait |
the french, mostly used, frameworks are sligthly different afaik |
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cait |
could you try administration > test bibliographic framework? |
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Bahruz |
that's why |
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cait |
and how did you create the new framework? |
| 20:09 |
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Bahruz |
i tried use default framework |
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Bahruz |
but the same error i saw |
| 20:10 |
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Bahruz |
Software error: |
| 20:10 |
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Bahruz |
Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2507. |
| 20:10 |
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cait |
hm yes |
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cait |
could you run the test on the administration page? |
| 20:11 |
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Bahruz |
can you use teamviewer? |
| 20:11 |
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Bahruz |
lets' i say u my id and password |
| 20:11 |
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Bahruz |
connect to my pc |
| 20:11 |
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Bahruz |
i will show you |
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Bahruz |
ok? |
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cait |
sorry, but i won't |
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cait |
i can try to help you here, but i am not very familiar with unimarc |
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cait |
runnign the test on the administration page would bemy next suggestion |
| 20:13 |
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cait |
you could also try mailing the mailing list - make sure to include the marcflavour, koha version and a good problem description |
| 20:15 |
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Bahruz |
i need koha devoloper for improve our library system |
| 20:15 |
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Bahruz |
and i want pay this devoloper for his help |
| 20:15 |
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cait |
there are lots of support provides you could contact |
| 20:15 |
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cait |
listed on the homepage |
| 20:15 |
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cait |
you could also try the mailing list |
| 20:32 |
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chris_n |
does this sound familiar folks: http://nerdvittles.com/?p=8721 |
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chris_n |
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNum[…]Type=statusSearch |
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* mtompset |
grumbles. |
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mtompset |
I really dislike fixing non-XSLT, only to discover I need to fix XSLT stuff too. |
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wizzyrea |
man i am glad we more or less dodged that bullet. |
| 20:38 |
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wizzyrea |
re: chris_n's link |
| 20:38 |
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wizzyrea |
also, good morning, happy #time_of_day |
| 20:39 |
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wizzyrea |
or $day_of_week |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (9:30 AM NZDT on January 21, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
light rain showers. oh you're funny. |
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mtompset |
@wunder l7e 5y5 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -11.9°C (3:39 PM EST on January 20, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
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* druthb |
decides to make mtompset just a lil jealous. |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 22.8°C (2:40 PM CST on January 20, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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eythian |
hi |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
hi cait! |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. I'll be back to ask about filtering a MARCXML record. ;) |
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eythian |
http://awfullibrarybooks.net/t[…]oes-seal-hunting/ <-- a baby seal walks into a club |
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eythian |
jcamins: I see you reproducing a lot of what is already in the csvtomarc I have, you probably want to avoid that. |
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eythian |
http://twist.redspider.co.nz/captured/gbt32.png <-- cait |
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francharb |
bye all |
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dcook |
eythian: All the more reason to play scrabble, I would think |
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dcook |
Apparently French scrabble is quite good because of all the vowels. |
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eythian |
I play scrabble in both en and nl, nl is nice for clearing out vowels. |
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dcook |
My wife has been learning a bit of Dutch recently for work, and I saw some of the print outs she had...I have renewed respect for your commitment to the language, eythian |
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dcook |
I'm sure if I understood the grammar that it might be more comprehensible but dang. It seems close enough to German to understand but then different enough that I'm puzzled. |
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eythian |
It actually not too bad. It doesn't have a ridiculous grammar like German. |
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dcook |
(Not that I understand German, but find it not too bad to speak sometimes) |
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eythian |
http://www.duolingo.com/eythian <-- I'm slowly working my way through German too |
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dcook |
Nice one! I keep forgetting about duolingo... |
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* dcook |
needs to find a cheap/free option for keeping up on his French |
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eythian |
duolingo is free and quite good I find |
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dcook |
Alas, the Koha French listserv isn't as rivetting as I would like :p |
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eythian |
heh |
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dcook |
Hmm, maybe I should give that a go if only for maintenance |
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dcook |
Plus, it would be good to bone up on my Spanish again. |
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* dcook |
would love to learn all the languages |
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eythian |
it tracks the areas you're not so good at, and what you haven't practiced recently and such too which is nice. |
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dcook |
I used to work at a library that had a collection in more than 26 different languages. It was amazing... |
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eythian |
nice |
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dcook |
Ooo. That would be nice! |
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dcook |
There are a few tenses and moods that just don't come up as often as I would like |
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dcook |
Moods? Modes? Moods... |
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eythian |
moods |
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dcook |
Right |
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dcook |
Ah |
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dcook |
Mood in english. Mode in French. |
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dcook |
Both! |
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eythian |
ah :) |
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dcook |
Wow...Toronto to London, UK for 901... |
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dcook |
I'm not sure how many Canadians are on here right now except blou, but that's a pretty decent deal, me thinks |
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* dcook |
did not take enough advantage of living in North America at the time. |
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dcook |
Of course, I was a poor student, but c'est la vie... |
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dcook |
One of these days, I'll visit NZ. |
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eythian |
it's <901 if you time it right |
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eythian |
don't come today, we've got a bit of a cyclone. |
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dcook |
Earthquake yesterday, cyclone today... |
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wizzyrea |
every day something different ;) |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
I guess you're never bored? |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
This placement test is hilarious |
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dcook |
Des poissons mangent du riz. |
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dcook |
Le |
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dcook |
You can’t peek in a test! |
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dcook |
chat a une botte rouge. |
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dcook |
Oh man, I've already made two obvious mistakes...Duolingo is rather nice! |
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eythian |
hi there papa |
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eythian |
yeah, it's gamification is quite nice |
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eythian |
It's the die, der, das that usually catches me out. I just end up stuck at a stage for ages until it starts to absorb. |
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dcook |
I keep getting tripped up by not reading the full sentence :/ |
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eythian |
ah |
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dcook |
Or some of the audio as I have horrible hearing to begin with |
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eythian |
don't do that then :) |
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dcook |
Ah, I guess I could skip it, eh? |
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dcook |
But good practice, I suppose |
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eythian |
The audio is pretty good I find, as you can play it back slow, or put headphones on, or whatever. |
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dcook |
Not doing it won't make it go away |
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eythian |
:) |
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dcook |
Yeah, I like that you can play it slow |
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dcook |
Second guessed myself between "vendent-elles" and "vend-t-elle" |
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dcook |
It sounds the same! |
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eythian |
heh |
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* eythian |
considers braving the elements to fetch some lunch |
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dcook |
I need to learn some Dutch so I can wish you luck |
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eythian |
that's easy: succes |
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dcook |
Well, I wish you succes finding lunch out in the wild outdoors |
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dcook |
I love some of these |
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dcook |
Mark all the correct translations of "Your boy is ugly" |
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eythian |
haha |
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dcook |
Oh no, I'm out of hearts.. |
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eythian |
sad owl |
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* wizzyrea |
ponders the lunch question as well |
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* dcook |
has been chowing down on cashews all morning |
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* eythian |
just did the usual monday thing and pre-ordered subway |
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eythian |
also it's close and mostly covered |
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dcook |
I've been craving subway for weeks... |
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dcook |
Toning down the eating out this year in advance of going to Europe later in the year.. |
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dcook |
The accent is a bit odd...I keep hearing different letters.. |
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wizzyrea |
oh nuts, I have nuts. for nibbling. |
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wizzyrea |
there is no world in which that sentence does not come off as naughty. |
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wizzyrea |
not really intended though. |
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dcook |
Context is everything? |
