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jcamins |
rangi: my rule of thumb is that if I remove the punctuation and add spaces, I can just use Perl code as Python. |
| 00:31 |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
yeah |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
Sometimes, I wonder what will happen when we move away from Template::Toolkit and we have to redo some of our magic in other ways... |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
I suppose that sort of thing is inevitable and you just have to see what happens when it happens |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
Progress and all that |
| 04:12 |
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eythian |
T::T is fairly well established |
| 04:12 |
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eythian |
Shouldn't go anywhere in a hurry |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
Ah, it looks like it's still updating too? |
| 04:13 |
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dcook |
I saw a copyright statement to 2007, but now I see one for 2012 |
| 04:13 |
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eythian |
I haven't looked, but I expect so. |
| 04:17 |
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jcamins |
Why would you link to a set of obsolete installation instructions when there are perfectly good instructions on the wiki? |
| 04:18 |
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jcamins |
On second thought, I withdraw the question. |
| 04:18 |
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jcamins |
Good night. |
| 04:18 |
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wahanui |
It'll all be over soon... |
| 04:26 |
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dcook |
lol |
| 04:26 |
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dcook |
night, jcamins |
| 04:41 |
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mtompset |
The pdf link? Because it had a commentary about hardware. |
| 04:41 |
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mtompset |
Hardware requirements for Koha haven |
| 04:41 |
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mtompset |
t really changed. |
| 04:44 |
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mtompset |
good night, jcamins. |
| 04:44 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, Oak eythian dcook. |
| 04:46 |
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Oak |
hello mtompset :) |
| 04:48 |
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mtompset |
How should cataloguer/cataloger and canceled/cancelled be spelt/spelled? |
| 04:54 |
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mtompset |
is en supposed to be American spelling, British spelling, or some other spelling for English? |
| 05:57 |
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BobB |
hi mtompset, afaik en generally provides US spelling; |
| 05:57 |
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BobB |
we use the en-nz translation for British/Australian spelling |
| 05:58 |
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BobB |
and its definitely 'cataloguer' for us |
| 05:58 |
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BobB |
and issues and returns and reserves :) |
| 06:00 |
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mtompset |
So, BobB, do you think the changes related to cataloguer and canceled in bug 11503 are okay? |
| 06:00 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11503 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Several typos |
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BobB |
will take a peep |
| 06:01 |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
| 06:02 |
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dcook |
morning cait |
| 06:02 |
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* dcook |
is so tempted to keep working on a TT plugin, but most head to the cinema |
| 06:02 |
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dcook |
Book Thief time! |
| 06:02 |
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dcook |
night all |
| 06:02 |
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wahanui |
goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
| 06:02 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
| 06:04 |
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cait |
:) |
| 06:23 |
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BobB |
mtompset, cataloger would be consistent, cataloguer would be used in the en-NZ or en-UK translations |
| 06:23 |
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BobB |
Usage of cancelled/canceled is less clear. It seems canceled is US usage only - the rest of the world uses cancelled |
| 06:24 |
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mtompset |
I think canceled may be regional, not national. |
| 06:24 |
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BobB |
however usage in the US seems to vary: I saw canceled in NY Times and Seattle newspaper but cancelled on the Avis website |
| 06:24 |
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BobB |
I guess not all .com websites are published from the US. |
| 06:25 |
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paxed |
is there a setting to disable the search word hilighting in staff ui? |
| 06:25 |
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BobB |
certainly cancelled is more widespread |
| 06:25 |
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BobB |
paxed, yes |
| 06:25 |
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BobB |
its a sys pref |
| 06:26 |
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paxed |
for opac. not staff. |
| 06:26 |
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BobB |
so I'll update the bug, mtompset |
| 06:26 |
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mtompset |
I signed it off. |
| 06:27 |
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mtompset |
Thanks for the feedback. |
| 06:27 |
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paxed |
BobB: if you mean OpacHighlightedWords, that doesn't seem to apply for the staff ui. |
| 06:28 |
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BobB |
ah, might have been what was in my mind, sorry I don't have time to check that now |
| 06:49 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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cait |
bbl |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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nlegrand |
Hey #koha |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 08:16 |
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nlegrand |
hey gaetan_B |
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wahanui |
gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons |
| 08:16 |
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gaetan_B |
:) |
| 08:18 |
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cait |
hi gaetan_B :) |
| 08:18 |
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cait |
happy new year :) |
| 08:19 |
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cait |
bit late, but it still counts i hope? |
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gaetan_B |
yep still counts of course cait, happy new year to you :) |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi marcelr - happy new year |
| 08:40 |
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marcelr |
:) |
| 08:59 |
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nlegrand |
cait: I've always thought it counts till the 31st :) |
| 09:08 |
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cait |
:) |
| 09:18 |
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sophie_m |
hello #koha |
| 09:19 |
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sophie_m |
v3.10.13 should not have been released ? I can't find it |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
i think we are only up to 12 yet |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
judging form the website |
| 09:21 |
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cait |
http://koha-community.org/category/release/3-10/ |
| 09:22 |
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sophie_m |
that's what I see also cait, no release in decembre... |
| 09:28 |
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cait |
maybe the holidays |
| 09:29 |
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cait |
are you waiting for a specific patch? |
| 09:31 |
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sophie_m |
cait, we are upgrading our customer every 3 monthes, so each time we jump for 3 releases. This time it will only be 2 |
| 09:43 |
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cait |
ah I see |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.3°C (11:30 AM CET on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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Joubu |
hi |
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cait |
hi Joubu |
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tcohen |
hi Joubu |
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kivilahtio |
wow I am looking into the item.totalissues and updating biblioitem.totalissues. Is it really true that you must update the whole bibliographic record to Zebra. One cannot just update one MARC-field to the zebra indexes? |
| 13:14 |
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cait |
i think zebra will reindex the whole record |
| 13:20 |
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cait |
kivilahtio: you saw that you can calculate those with a cronjob? |
| 13:20 |
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cait |
if you are worried about performance |
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cait |
hi oleonard :) |
| 13:20 |
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oleonard |
Hi |
| 13:23 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: yes I noticed. But then I realized that Solr is there as well! |
| 13:23 |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: hi to you too! |
| 13:23 |
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kivilahtio |
Uncertain about the current status of Solr integration |
| 13:24 |
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kivilahtio |
BibLibre test servers are inaccessible atm :( |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: is jenkins loading a fresh DB for each Koha_3.12.x run? |
| 13:45 |
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cait |
kivilahtio: solr is not ripe for production |
| 13:45 |
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cait |
it won't support everything zebra does i think and is still experimental |
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kivilahtio |
cait: thank you |
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tcohen |
hi kivilahtio |
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kivilahtio |
cait: Also I think we could do with update_totalissues.pl |
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kivilahtio |
hi tcohen! How do you do? |
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kivilahtio |
cait: It looks like a good solution |
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tcohen |
great kivilahtio |
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kivilahtio |
good to hear that :) |
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kivilahtio |
I am eating salmiakki, very good |
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tcohen |
how r u doing? |
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tcohen |
oh (googling) |
| 13:46 |
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tcohen |
never heard of that! |
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kivilahtio |
we are going to Mikkelin tomorrow, to talk with them about some data migration issues and about forming a Koha consortium of sorts |
| 13:46 |
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kivilahtio |
If I ever come to a KohaCon I'll bring some |
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tcohen |
jenk? |
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tcohen |
:D |
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kivilahtio |
jenk? |
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cait |
kivilahtio: you shoud totally go to kohacon in argentina .) |
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tcohen |
trying autocomplete for jenkins |
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tcohen |
need to trigger the 3.12.x build |
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kivilahtio |
cait: sounds cool, maybe I will :) |
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kivilahtio |
wow HELsinki -> CORdoba -> HELsinki 1440€ ! |
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kivilahtio |
~30h travel time |
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cait |
wow |
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cait |
almost as long as to nz |
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kivilahtio |
that's a lot |
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kivilahtio |
maybe there will be a bargain flight out there somewhere :) |
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tcohen |
jcamins around? |
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tcohen |
@later tell jcamins I'd like to ask u about 10688 and 3.12.x |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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kivilahtio |
do you ever clean the statistics table in production? |
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kivilahtio |
just curious what will happend after 5 years :) |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: it will be very full. |
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kivilahtio |
hmm, It could be moved to it's own statistics and reports server? |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: you mean using replication and the black hole storage engine? Sure, you could do that. |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure how necessary it is, though. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: probably not. I guess one needs to worry about that when the DB starts to get full :) |
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kivilahtio |
update_statistics doesn't take into account deleted items? |
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cait |
hm not sure, never used that |
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kivilahtio |
cait: well I guess this must be used to enable relevancy ranking with zebra searches? |
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cait |
kivilahtio: we keep it so far |
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cait |
the information in statistics |
| 14:49 |
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cait |
it's ued for the item and record history... you will need that if you want to decide what to weed |
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kivilahtio |
but if a item is deleted it is moved to deleted_items-table. The SQL in update_totalissues.pl doesnt touch deleted_items, but only replaces hte existing totalissuess-count with the count of available items |
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cait |
hm i think if you assume it is deleted it was not checked out on the same day |
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cait |
i mean it's unlikely to happen |
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cait |
say you run the report every night |
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cait |
it would have to be checked out and deleted on the same day |
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kivilahtio |
cait: my issues is that if a item is issues 50 times, and then moved to the deleted_items-table, after running this script te biblioitems.totalissues drops by 50 |
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kivilahtio |
regardless of your method of using the script |
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kivilahtio |
hmm, looks like a new bugentry |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
so the totalissues is supposed to be all items? |
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cait |
not sure if it's a bug or not |
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cait |
might be a 123 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: I suppose totalissues is the number of times that book has been issued during its lifecycle |
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kivilahtio |
cait: it should never d3ecreas |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
i know some libraries only look at the numbers in the last x years |
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cait |
so if something is very old, tht totals are not so interesting, but the recent use |
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kivilahtio |
cait: so you need statistics for that, but I think this functionality still works in an unintended fashion |
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kivilahtio |
cait: but if you run this script incrementally from statistics I think it works ok |
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kivilahtio |
so this answers my core issues of migrating total issues :) |
| 15:05 |
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kivilahtio |
but if you recalculate your total issues, you might get wrong numbers |
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kivilahtio |
I think i'll report a minor bug for this |
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cait |
we have mostly academics... they haven't asked for that so far :) |
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cait |
fixing the popularity serach is still on my todo |
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cait |
it didn't work at all in the versions we started with, bug jcamins++ fixed it |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins++ :) |
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kivilahtio |
why is there a statistical type of return? Why would one want to take reports of that? |
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oleonard |
To help understand how busy your are? |
| 15:36 |
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oleonard |
Librarians love reports |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: it didn't use to, but let me check quickly |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: i've just updated the current DB |
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tcohen |
because Serials.t needs a subscription on the DB |
| 15:40 |
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tcohen |
(that's fixed in master...) |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: it doesn't reload the DB automatically |
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tcohen |
ok |
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gmcharlt |
where is the dump? and shall I cancel the current build, reload the DB, and start it again? |
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tcohen |
not at all |
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tcohen |
i've put a while ago dumps for 3.12 and 3.14 in /home/jenkins |
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tcohen |
which could be used to reload the DB if needed |
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tcohen |
i've updated the 3.12 one to have the subscription and success the tests |
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gmcharlt |
ah |
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gmcharlt |
to clarify, did you update the runnign DB? |
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tcohen |
yes |
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gmcharlt |
OK |
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tcohen |
hopefully we'll have jenkins saying 3.12 is stable now :-( |
| 15:48 |
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tcohen |
i know is just a label and a color in jenkins, but it annoys me :-P |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen++ # aiming for stability |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: touché? |
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gmcharlt |
kivilahtio: a more serious answer -- keeping track of usage of items within the library |
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kivilahtio |
gmcharlt: thank you |
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oleonard |
My answer was serious :P |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: I don't deny it, but I think mine was more serious^Wboring ;) |
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kivilahtio |
well now it makes sense. You could deduct the "loose" items by subtracting from checkouts the checkins. But dont we have a reporting module for that? |
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kivilahtio |
statistics vs reporting :) |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: one can't get a report on statistics that aren't collected. No matter what your director may request. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: thanks, I think I will print that and glue to our wall |
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jcamins |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
buug 642454 (ENH) Time-travel statistical collection module |
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* mtompset |
smirks. |
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mtompset |
Greetings. |
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tcohen |
hi mtompset |
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mtompset |
Greetings, tcohen. |
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mtompset |
Okay... I've got an interesting problem. |
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mtompset |
I'm going to email the dev mailing list about it. |
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tcohen |
shoot |
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mtompset |
But the short version: opac-MARCdetail grabs the hidden tag, opac-detail does not. |
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mtompset |
How to make opac-detail pay attention to the hidden MARC tag data, so things can be hidden the same way on opac-detail./ |
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kivilahtio |
permissions use binary flags :D lol that |
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kivilahtio |
erm... a binary flag |
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reiveune |
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tcohen |
permissions handling in Koha is really close to black magic |
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tcohen |
has anyone experienced this? enable "Try" QueryParser => 0 results (authorities); "Don't try" QueryParser => #results != 0 |
| 16:26 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I've got that old black magic under my skin. That old black magic letting me log in? |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: I am used to working with binary flag-arrays thanks to our legacy system. In Koha I can properly reverse engineer those flags, but with our legacy system we are not allowed to make any writes to the DB, thus the only way to make sense of a record with columns status1 and status2, both arrays of binary flags, is to cross reference our data |
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kivilahtio |
it sucks so bad, but is in a strange kind of fashion interesting |
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* tcohen |
likes black magic |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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kivilahtio |
but I have to say naming borrower.flags "flags" is obfuscation at its best |
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tcohen |
heh |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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mtompset |
no, these are hidden in marc_subfield_structure. :) |
| 16:51 |
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mtompset |
tcohen: Yes, I believe I have experienced that. |
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mtompset |
oh... authorities... no. |
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mtompset |
Haven't searched for authorities. |
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Joubu |
bye |
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jcamins++ #'cuz he's brilliant, mmk? |
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waves |
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waves |
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druthb |
magnuse! |
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wahanui |
magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
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cait |
:) |
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magnuse |
did anyone plug "migrate ALL THE THINGS!" yet? |
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magnuse |
druthb! cait! |
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* druthb |
hides. |
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cait |
i think druthb got close |
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cait |
but then she stopped |
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* druthb |
runs away! |
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magnuse |
migrate ALL THE THINGS! is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srdEXEwdupY |
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druthb |
not my best preso ever. I'm kinda agitated that it got published. |
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magnuse |
oops? |
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druthb |
*Shrug* |
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magnuse |
i heard the first 5 minutes - sounded promising to me :-) |
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magnuse |
i'll liste to the rest later, for sure |
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druthb |
puh. |
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druthb |
Just talked about my process, told some tales about migrations I've done. |
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druthb |
showed off the code that you already know about. *shrug* |
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* cait |
pokes druthb with the pointy stick |
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cait |
stop doing that |
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magnuse |
sounds good to me :-) |
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magnuse |
(the talk, not the poking) |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 7.9°C (1:50 PM EST on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
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marjorieccsr |
Hi, in course reserves, when i click on remove instructor (in edit course) nothing happen. Someone has already tested it? |
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cait |
marjorieccsr: hm have you checked bugzilla? |
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magnuse |
@wunder osl |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is -11.0°C (7:50 PM CET on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
was -19 this morning |
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marjorieccsr |
cait: yes, i found nothing on this bug |
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cait |
hm there is one about deleting courses |
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cait |
but that might not be it |
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marjorieccsr |
cait: thanks, i will open a ticket on bz. |
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cait |
sorry for not being more helpful |
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kivilahtio |
so many bugs in my migration toolkit... baaaaaaaahhh |
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kivilahtio |
I think I heard migrate ALL THE THINGS as well |
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kivilahtio |
it left a blunt expression in my face :) |
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kivilahtio |
the good thing with trance music is... that you eventually fall into trance :) |
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kivilahtio |
if you can endure it first |
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* cait |
feels more like falling asleep |
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* maximep |
is listening to Gaia - Tuvan =) |
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mtompset |
concat(str1,...,strN) is MySQL specific. What's not a MySQLism? ||? SQL Server doesn't support it. |
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cait |
hm maybe || |
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cait |
not sure it works withmysql |
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mtompset |
it supposedly can be made to work. |
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mtompset |
I'm experimenting now. |
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mtompset |
ah! |
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mtompset |
set sql_mode='ansi'; |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
what are you working on? |
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mtompset |
trying to collect the "hidden" values for a field to pass to the template, so that i can tweak opac-detail to hide things properly. |
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cait |
i am just wondering |
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mtompset |
the problem is 541$e and 952%i |
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cait |
maybe use dbix? |
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mtompset |
the problem is 541$e and 952$i |
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cait |
instead of writing sql |
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mtompset |
cait: That's a learning curve I don't have time to figure out. |
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mtompset |
the patch needs to be done last month. :) |
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mtompset |
Shoot... bus! |
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* mtompset |
head off to pick up son. |
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mtompset |
^head^heads^ |
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rambutan |
methinks druthb would make a great Marc instructor. Who would have guessed that TLH would be a valid Marc language code? Who? |
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wizzyrea |
http://thetvmouse.files.wordpr[…]ows.gif%3Fw%3D558 |
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druthb |
Room full of people who are *waaay* geekier than Koha folk. Needed something uber-nerdy for 'em. |
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cait |
geekier than us? |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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* cait |
feels slightly insulted |
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mtompset |
Here here, cait! druthb that was ruuuuude. :P |
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druthb |
:P |
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druthb |
Not at all. Koha people can at least socialize without massive quantities of beer in them. |
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druthb |
Not so these uber-geeks. |
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cait |
21/8 |
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cait |
hmpf. |
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cait |
passed/failed |
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oleonard |
Has anyone verified whether we can socialize *with* massive quantities of beer in us? |
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* cait |
has seen oleonard drinking beer and found him being able to socialize |
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druthb |
:P |
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cait |
well but maybe not massive quantities:) |
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oleonard |
No, not nearly. |
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cait |
lots of glasses! |
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cait |
... small ones |
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mtompset |
Got to run. wife to pick up, evening meeting. rush rush rush. |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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wizzyrea |
is there still a limit on the number of items that Koha can have on a biblio? |
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cait |
hm i think if you use -x for indexing probably not |
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cait |
or much higher than it used to be |
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wizzyrea |
-x is default now yea? |
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druthb |
yah, if you're using -x, there's not one that I ever hit. |
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* oleonard |
smells serials |
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rambutan |
what do serials smell like? |
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rambutan |
smelt? |
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oleonard |
Like too many items |
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cait |
like too many name changes, splitting ups an all that |
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druthb |
cait++ |
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wizzyrea |
yep, this was in fact a question about a record that was a serial. |
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rangi |
heh i think i just blew up the koha server |
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cait |
oh? |
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cait |
which one? |
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wahanui |
somebody said which one was that? The fixed navbar? |
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* magnuse |
heard a faint boom in the distance |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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rangi |
here come all the academy students |
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* wizzyrea |
gets ready |
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* cait |
gets nervous |
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wizzyrea |
oh I am guessing git |
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rangi |
yeah |
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* cait |
waves at t-houlks and francesca |
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* aleishaa |
waves at emma |
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* wizzyrea |
waves at our future Koha devs |
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cait |
oh there are more furhter up :) |
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rangi |
how are the clones going? |
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* francesca |
hello! |
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* cait |
waves at all the academy students |
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* aleishaa |
waves at cait! |
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Roman_ |
still no more progress |
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cait |
@quote random |
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huginn |
cait: Quote #245: "<jcamins> Noooooooooooo!!!! wahanui! Cut down in the prime of life!" (added by gmcharlt at 11:07 PM, May 02, 2013) |
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francesca |
waves |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (9:30 AM NZDT on January 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.2°C (9:55 PM CET on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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* daniel_ |
waves at all Koha People |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 22.8°C (2:55 PM CST on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
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* francesca |
waves at everybody |
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cait |
:) |
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druthb |
Howdy from Houston, TX, academy students! :) |
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cait |
hope you have a fun week working on Koha :) |
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* magnuse |
waves to all the cool academy students, from oslo, norway |
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rangi |
we will once the server recovers, 8 clones at once not a good idea |
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francesca |
if the server recovers |
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* cait |
says hi from Konstanz, Germany |
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* aleisha |
laughs |
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cait |
ah, rangi can fix everything ;) |
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* cjh |
waves to all the academy kids from upstairs. |
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* francesca |
waves back |
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cait |
rangi: is NOW() a mysqlism? |
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cait |
hm |
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* cait |
might be confusing something |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
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cjh |
cait: NOW() also exists in postgres, but I think CURRENT_TIMESTAMP is ansi (postgres and mysql both seem to support) |
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cait |
oh thx cjh :) |
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cjh |
> MySQL supports NOW( ) as a synonym of the function CURRENT_TIMESTAMP. |
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cait |
i found that bit, but was not sure how to read it |
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cjh |
I think it means CURRENT_TIMESTAMP is the standard function, and NOW() was added by mysql as another name for it |
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cjh |
cait: postgres documentation also calls NOW() non-sql-standard |
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cait |
cjh++ |
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cjh |
http://www.postgresql.org/docs[…]ons-datetime.html |
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cjh |
under " The complete list of non-SQL-standard time functions is:" it mentions now() |
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cjh |
cait: I wanted to know the answer :D |
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rangi |
gmcharlt: are you around? or anyone with console on the git server? |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: I'm around |
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gmcharlt |
give me a moment to see if I can fulfill the second requirement :) |
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rangi |
thanks :) |
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rangi |
academy students: git clone git://repo.or.cz/koha.git |
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eythian |
hi |
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eythian |
rangi: I can push to the catalyst one, it'll be reasonably current. |
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eythian |
rangi: if that'd be faster for you |
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rangi |
yeah that might help |
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rangi |
aleisha: can you try git clone git://git.catalyst.net.nz/koha.git |
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eythian |
it's pushing master right at the moment. |
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eythian |
you might want to give it a minute |
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rangi |
cool |
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eythian |
done |
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eythian |
I'll push the other branches when I work out how that works |
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eythian |
oh, --mirror |
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rangi |
ta |
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rangi |
ok, status check how far are you daniel_ |
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eythian |
rangi: done, it's probably a bit more of a mess now as it'll have all my extra branches and remotes, but that's not the end of the world. |
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rangi |
yeah, we will deal |
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rangi |
merllissiam: past 65 yet? |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: it's settled down |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ # busy RM :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10318: Show primary email in patron search results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c0a5cb83a8fbe849> / Bug 11505: fix untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7493f8dc52e52945a> / Bug 11381: improve styling of IDreamBooks content in bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-c |
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wizzyrea |
hm the username isn't defaulted for new users who use patron self registration |
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wizzyrea |
you can end up with a borrower with no username, but an assigned password. |
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* wizzyrea |
tests that again. |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: that bit WFM |
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wizzyrea |
doesn't hurt anything, but it ought to do the thing the rest of Koha does. |
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wizzyrea |
this is in bootstrap, not prog... let me check prog. |
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wizzyrea |
at the very least, if you don't give it a username, it doesn't display it. |
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wizzyrea |
naw, it doesn't work in prog on master either. I don't have username set as a required field (which isn't default) - is there a setting I'm missing? |
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wizzyrea |
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7082/v86t.png |
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eythian |
pre-filling the password box rubs me the wrong way a bit. |
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eythian |
Why doesn't it just log them on. |
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wizzyrea |
probably because there's an optional step of having them confirm their email address? |
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wizzyrea |
idk. |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: dunno re userid, works for me and it shoudl always default to firstname.lastname |
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wizzyrea |
I think I figured it out - if you give the system preference a borrower category that doesn't exist, it doesn't register the borrower, but doesn't say that anything went werong |
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wizzyrea |
wrong |
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wizzyrea |
which is a different problem :) |
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wizzyrea |
example, I told the syspref to use category A, which didn't exist. It worked when I used PT |
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gmcharlt |
ah |
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gmcharlt |
definitely worth reporting |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: 11096 is about big records being indexed |
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wizzyrea |
how big is big |
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tcohen |
more than 99999 characters? |
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dcook |
tcohen: What was your scenario again? I've mostly encountered it due to extremely long and numerous notes fields |
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tcohen |
i attached the exact record :-D |
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tcohen |
and galen wrote some unit tests with its own too |
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dcook |
bug 11096 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra |
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tcohen |
huge notes |
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dcook |
Mmm, right. Lots of items. |
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tcohen |
lots of whatever heh |
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dcook |
hehe |
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tcohen |
bbl, cya dcook |
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rangi |
we are going to go lunch now |
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tcohen |
hi rangi! |
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rangi |
can someone look at bug 11537 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Increasing test coverage for C4::Log |
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tcohen |
hope you're having fun |
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rangi |
first patch of this years academy |
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dcook |
Hmm |
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tcohen |
rangi: tomorrow i will |
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* wizzyrea |
got it |
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dcook |
rangi: Sure, although not I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking for |
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rangi |
test plan is on the patch |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: prolly needs to be outside catalyst for sign off |
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wizzyrea |
ah right. never mind then. |
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dcook |
All right. I's gots this |
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rangi |
thanks dcook |
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dcook |
np |
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dcook |
Thanks for your sign offs (and generally just being awesome :P) |
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kathryn |
rangi: woohoo for academy patches! |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ academy patches! |
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today is just unit tests, tomorrow is working on a few different things |
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dcook |
unit tests \o/ |
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"rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Tests to improve" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/71 |
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rangi |
right gonna grab some food now ive found some work for them |
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dcook |
Bon appétit |
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