Time  Nick         Message
23:40 dcook        Bon appétit
23:39 rangi        right gonna grab some food now ive found some work for them
23:38 pastebot     "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Tests to improve" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/71
23:32 dcook        unit tests \o/
23:31 rangi        today is just unit tests, tomorrow is working on a few different things
23:27 wizzyrea     \o/ academy patches!
23:23 kathryn      rangi: woohoo for academy patches!
23:05 dcook        Thanks for your sign offs (and generally just being awesome :P)
23:05 dcook        np
23:04 rangi        thanks dcook
23:03 dcook        All right. I's gots this
23:03 wizzyrea     ah right. never mind then.
23:03 rangi        wizzyrea: prolly needs to be outside catalyst for sign off
23:03 rangi        test plan is on the patch
23:02 dcook        rangi: Sure, although not I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking for
23:02 * wizzyrea   got it
23:00 tcohen       rangi: tomorrow i will
23:00 dcook        Hmm
23:00 rangi        first patch of this years academy
23:00 tcohen       hope you're having fun
23:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Increasing test coverage for C4::Log
23:00 rangi        can someone look at bug 11537
23:00 tcohen       hi rangi!
23:00 rangi        we are going to go lunch now
23:00 tcohen       bbl, cya dcook
22:59 dcook        hehe
22:58 tcohen       lots of whatever heh
22:58 dcook        Mmm, right. Lots of items.
22:58 tcohen       huge notes
22:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra
22:58 dcook        bug 11096
22:58 tcohen       and galen wrote some unit tests with its own too
22:57 tcohen       i attached the exact record :-D
22:57 dcook        tcohen: What was your scenario again? I've mostly encountered it due to extremely long and numerous notes fields
22:55 tcohen       more than 99999 characters?
22:55 wizzyrea     how big is big
22:54 tcohen       wizzyrea: 11096 is about big records being indexed
22:41 gmcharlt     definitely worth reporting
22:41 gmcharlt     ah
22:40 wizzyrea     example, I told the syspref to use category A, which didn't exist. It worked when I used PT
22:39 wizzyrea     which is a different problem :)
22:38 wizzyrea     wrong
22:38 wizzyrea     I think I figured it out - if you give the system preference a borrower category that doesn't exist, it doesn't register the borrower, but doesn't say that anything went werong
22:38 gmcharlt     wizzyrea: dunno re userid, works for me and it shoudl always default to firstname.lastname
22:33 wizzyrea     idk.
22:33 wizzyrea     probably because there's an optional step of having them confirm their email address?
22:32 eythian      Why doesn't it just log them on.
22:32 eythian      pre-filling the password box rubs me the wrong way a bit.
22:31 wizzyrea     http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7082/v86t.png
22:29 wizzyrea     naw, it doesn't work in prog on master either. I don't have username set as a required field (which isn't default) - is there a setting I'm missing?
22:28 wizzyrea     at the very least, if you don't give it a username, it doesn't display it.
22:27 wizzyrea     this is in bootstrap, not prog... let me check prog.
22:26 wizzyrea     doesn't hurt anything, but it ought to do the thing the rest of Koha does.
22:26 gmcharlt     wizzyrea: that bit WFM
22:26 * wizzyrea   tests that again.
22:26 wizzyrea     you can end up with a borrower with no username, but an assigned password.
22:26 wizzyrea     hm the username isn't defaulted for new users who use patron self registration
22:07 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10318: Show primary email in patron search results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fbf21da1c540d19cc19fe75c0a5cb83a8fbe849> / Bug 11505: fix untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8f5ee9eef7a558ae1af8237493f8dc52e52945a> / Bug 11381: improve styling of IDreamBooks content in bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-c
22:03 cait         gmcharlt++ # busy RM :)
21:59 gmcharlt     rangi: it's settled down
21:53 rangi        merllissiam: past 65 yet?
21:52 rangi        yeah, we will deal
21:52 eythian      rangi: done, it's probably a bit more of a mess now as it'll have all my extra branches and remotes, but that's not the end of the world.
21:51 rangi        ok, status check how far are you daniel_
21:49 rangi        ta
21:49 eythian      oh, --mirror
21:48 eythian      I'll push the other branches when I work out how that works
21:48 eythian      done
21:48 rangi        cool
21:48 eythian      you might want to give it a minute
21:48 eythian      it's pushing master right at the moment.
21:47 rangi        aleisha: can you try git clone git://git.catalyst.net.nz/koha.git
21:45 rangi        yeah that might help
21:45 eythian      rangi: if that'd be faster for you
21:45 eythian      rangi: I can push to the catalyst one, it'll be reasonably current.
21:45 eythian      hi
21:40 rangi        academy students: git clone git://repo.or.cz/koha.git
21:40 rangi        thanks :)
21:39 gmcharlt     give me a moment to see if I can fulfill the second requirement :)
21:39 gmcharlt     rangi: I'm around
21:39 rangi        gmcharlt: are you around? or anyone with console on the git server?
21:16 cjh          cait: I wanted to know the answer :D
21:16 cjh          under " The complete list of non-SQL-standard time functions is:" it mentions now()
21:15 cjh          http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/functions-datetime.html
21:15 cait         cjh++
21:15 cjh          cait: postgres documentation also calls NOW() non-sql-standard
21:15 cjh          I think it means CURRENT_TIMESTAMP is the standard function, and NOW() was added by mysql as another name for it
21:13 cait         i found that bit, but was not sure how to read it
21:12 cjh          >  MySQL supports NOW( ) as a synonym of the function CURRENT_TIMESTAMP.
21:11 cait         oh thx cjh :)
21:10 cjh          cait: NOW() also exists in postgres, but I think CURRENT_TIMESTAMP is ansi (postgres and mysql both seem to support)
21:05 magnuse      have fun #koha!
21:02 * cait       might be confusing something
21:02 cait         hm
21:00 cait         rangi: is NOW() a mysqlism?
20:59 * francesca  waves back
20:58 * cjh        waves to all the academy kids from upstairs.
20:57 cait         ah, rangi can fix everything ;)
20:57 * aleisha    laughs
20:57 * cait       says hi from Konstanz, Germany
20:57 francesca    if the server recovers
20:57 rangi        we will once the server recovers, 8 clones at once not a good idea
20:57 * magnuse    waves to all the cool academy students, from oslo, norway
20:56 cait         hope you have a fun week working on Koha :)
20:56 druthb       Howdy from Houston, TX, academy students!  :)
20:56 cait         :)
20:56 * francesca  waves at everybody
20:56 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 22.8°C (2:55 PM CST on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
20:56 druthb       @wunder 77098
20:55 * daniel_    waves at all Koha People
20:55 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.2°C (9:55 PM CET on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
20:55 cait         @wunder Konstanz
20:55 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (9:30 AM NZDT on January 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
20:55 rangi        @wunder nzwn
20:55 francesca    waves
20:55 huginn       cait: Quote #245: "<jcamins> Noooooooooooo!!!! wahanui! Cut down in the prime of life!" (added by gmcharlt at 11:07 PM, May 02, 2013)
20:55 cait         @quote random
20:55 Roman_       still no more progress
20:55 * aleishaa   waves at cait!
20:55 * cait       waves at all the academy students
20:55 * francesca  hello!
20:55 rangi        how are the clones going?
20:55 cait         oh there are more furhter up :)
20:55 * wizzyrea   waves at our future Koha devs
20:54 * aleishaa   waves at emma
20:54 * cait       waves at t-houlks and francesca
20:54 rangi        yeah
20:54 wizzyrea     oh I am guessing git
20:54 * cait       gets nervous
20:53 * wizzyrea   gets ready
20:53 rangi        here come all the academy students
20:52 wizzyrea     !
20:52 * magnuse    heard a faint boom in the distance
20:51 wahanui      somebody said which one was that? The fixed navbar?
20:51 cait         which one?
20:51 cait         oh?
20:51 rangi        heh i think i just blew up the koha server
20:37 wizzyrea     yep, this was in fact a question about a record that was a serial.
20:37 druthb       cait++
20:36 cait         like too many name changes, splitting ups an all that
20:36 oleonard     Like too many items
20:36 rambutan     smelt?
20:36 rambutan     what do serials smell like?
20:34 * oleonard   smells serials
20:32 druthb       yah, if you're using -x, there's not one that I ever hit.
20:32 wizzyrea     -x is default now yea?
20:32 cait         or much higher than it used to be
20:32 cait         hm i think if you use -x for indexing probably not
20:32 wizzyrea     is there still a limit on the number of items that Koha can have on a biblio?
20:31 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
20:31 mtompset     Got to run. wife to pick up, evening meeting. rush rush rush.
20:30 cait         ... small ones
20:30 cait         lots of glasses!
20:29 oleonard     No, not nearly.
20:29 cait         well but maybe not massive quantities:)
20:28 druthb       :P
20:28 * cait       has seen oleonard drinking beer and found him being able to socialize
20:28 oleonard     Has anyone verified whether we can socialize *with* massive quantities of beer in us?
20:27 cait         passed/failed
20:27 cait         hmpf.
20:27 cait         21/8
20:27 druthb       Not so these uber-geeks.
20:27 druthb       Not at all.  Koha people can at least socialize without massive quantities of beer in them.
20:26 druthb       :P
20:25 mtompset     Here here, cait! druthb that was ruuuuude. :P
20:17 * cait       feels slightly insulted
20:17 jcamins      Heh.
20:13 cait         geekier than us?
20:10 druthb       Room full of people who are *waaay* geekier than Koha folk.  Needed something uber-nerdy for 'em.
20:07 wizzyrea     http://thetvmouse.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/tom-baker-who-knows.gif%3Fw%3D558
20:07 rambutan     methinks druthb would make a great Marc instructor. Who would have guessed that TLH would be a valid Marc language code? Who?
20:02 mtompset     ^head^heads^
20:02 * mtompset   head off to pick up son.
20:02 mtompset     Shoot... bus!
20:02 mtompset     the patch needs to be done last month. :)
20:02 mtompset     cait: That's a learning curve I don't have time to figure out.
20:01 cait         instead of writing sql
20:01 mtompset     the problem is 541$e and 952$i
20:01 cait         maybe use dbix?
20:01 mtompset     the problem is 541$e and 952%i
20:01 cait         i am just wondering
20:01 mtompset     trying to collect the "hidden" values for a field to pass to the template, so that i can tweak opac-detail to hide things properly.
20:00 cait         what are you working on?
19:59 cait         hm
19:59 mtompset     set sql_mode='ansi';
19:58 mtompset     ah!
19:54 mtompset     I'm experimenting now.
19:54 mtompset     it supposedly can be made to work.
19:53 cait         not sure it works withmysql
19:51 cait         hm maybe ||
19:50 mtompset     concat(str1,...,strN) is MySQL specific. What's not a MySQLism? ||? SQL Server doesn't support it.
19:38 * maximep    is listening to Gaia - Tuvan =)
19:22 * cait       feels more like falling asleep
19:22 kivilahtio   if you can endure it first
19:22 kivilahtio   the good thing with trance music is... that you eventually fall into trance :)
19:17 kivilahtio   it left a blunt expression in my face :)
19:16 kivilahtio   I think I heard migrate ALL THE THINGS as well
19:16 kivilahtio   so many bugs in my migration toolkit... baaaaaaaahhh
19:16 cait         sorry for not being more helpful
19:16 marjorieccsr cait: thanks, i will open a ticket on bz.
19:03 cait         but that might not be it
19:03 cait         hm there is one about deleting courses
18:59 marjorieccsr cait: yes, i found nothing on this bug
18:58 magnuse      was -19 this morning
18:58 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is -11.0°C (7:50 PM CET on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
18:58 magnuse      @wunder osl
18:58 cait         marjorieccsr: hm have you checked bugzilla?
18:55 marjorieccsr Hi, in course reserves, when i click on remove instructor (in edit course) nothing happen. Someone has already tested it?
18:53 huginn       jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 7.9°C (1:50 PM EST on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
18:52 jcamins      @wunder 11375
18:47 magnuse      (the talk, not the poking)
18:47 magnuse      sounds good to me :-)
18:47 cait         stop doing that
18:46 * cait       pokes druthb with the pointy stick
18:46 druthb       showed off the code that you already know about.  *shrug*
18:44 druthb       Just talked about my process, told some tales about migrations I've done.
18:44 druthb       puh.
18:44 magnuse      i'll liste to the rest later, for sure
18:44 magnuse      i heard the first 5 minutes - sounded promising to me :-)
18:44 druthb       *Shrug*
18:43 magnuse      oops?
18:43 druthb       not my best preso ever.  I'm kinda agitated that it got published.
18:43 magnuse      migrate ALL THE THINGS! is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srdEXEwdupY
18:43 * druthb     runs away!
18:43 cait         but then she stopped
18:43 cait         i think druthb got close
18:43 * druthb     hides.
18:42 magnuse      druthb! cait!
18:42 magnuse      did anyone plug "migrate ALL THE THINGS!" yet?
18:41 cait         :)
18:41 wahanui      magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
18:41 druthb       magnuse!
18:39 * magnuse    waves
17:40 * cait       waves
17:02 druthb       jcamins++  #'cuz he's brilliant, mmk?
16:58 Joubu        bye
16:58 mtompset     Haven't searched for authorities.
16:58 mtompset     oh... authorities... no.
16:51 mtompset     tcohen: Yes, I believe I have experienced that.
16:50 mtompset     no, these are hidden in marc_subfield_structure. :)
16:31 gaetan_B     bye !
16:28 tcohen       heh
16:28 kivilahtio   but I have to say naming borrower.flags "flags" is obfuscation at its best
16:27 tcohen       :-P
16:27 * tcohen     likes black magic
16:27 kivilahtio   it sucks so bad, but is in a strange kind of fashion interesting
16:26 kivilahtio   tcohen: I am used to working with binary flag-arrays thanks to our legacy system. In Koha I can properly reverse engineer those flags, but with our legacy system we are not allowed to make any writes to the DB, thus the only way to make sense of a record with columns status1 and status2, both arrays of binary flags, is to cross reference our data
16:26 jcamins      tcohen: I've got that old black magic under my skin. That old black magic letting me log in?
16:25 tcohen       has anyone experienced this? enable "Try" QueryParser => 0 results (authorities); "Don't try" QueryParser => #results != 0
16:24 tcohen       permissions handling in Koha is really close to black magic
16:24 reiveune     bye
16:23 kivilahtio   erm... a binary flag
16:23 kivilahtio   permissions use binary flags :D lol that
16:07 mtompset     How to make opac-detail pay attention to the hidden MARC tag data, so things can be hidden the same way on opac-detail./
16:06 mtompset     But the short version: opac-MARCdetail grabs the hidden tag, opac-detail does not.
16:06 tcohen       shoot
16:06 mtompset     I'm going to email the dev mailing list about it.
16:05 mtompset     Okay... I've got an interesting problem.
16:05 mtompset     Greetings, tcohen.
16:05 tcohen       hi mtompset
16:04 mtompset     Greetings.
15:58 * mtompset   smirks.
15:56 gmcharlt     buug 642454 (ENH) Time-travel statistical collection module
15:55 jcamins      :)
15:55 kivilahtio   jcamins: thanks, I think I will print that and glue to our wall
15:54 jcamins      kivilahtio: one can't get a report on statistics that aren't collected. No matter what your director may request.
15:53 kivilahtio   statistics vs reporting :)
15:53 kivilahtio   well now it makes sense. You could deduct the "loose" items by subtracting from checkouts the checkins. But dont we have a reporting module for that?
15:52 gmcharlt     oleonard: I don't deny it, but I think mine was more serious^Wboring ;)
15:52 oleonard     My answer was serious :P
15:51 kivilahtio   gmcharlt: thank you
15:51 gmcharlt     kivilahtio: a more serious answer -- keeping track of usage of items within the library
15:50 kivilahtio   oleonard: touché?
15:50 gmcharlt     tcohen++ # aiming for stability
15:48 tcohen       i know is just a label and a color in jenkins, but it annoys me :-P
15:48 tcohen       hopefully we'll have jenkins saying 3.12 is stable now :-(
15:45 gmcharlt     OK
15:43 tcohen       yes
15:43 gmcharlt     to clarify, did you update the runnign DB?
15:43 gmcharlt     ah
15:43 tcohen       i've updated the 3.12 one to have the subscription and success the tests
15:42 tcohen       which could be used to reload the DB if needed
15:42 tcohen       i've put a while ago dumps for 3.12 and 3.14 in /home/jenkins
15:42 tcohen       not at all
15:41 gmcharlt     where is the dump? and shall I cancel the current build, reload the DB, and start it again?
15:41 tcohen       ok
15:41 gmcharlt     tcohen: it doesn't reload the DB automatically
15:40 tcohen       (that's fixed in master...)
15:40 tcohen       because Serials.t needs a subscription on the DB
15:40 tcohen       gmcharlt: i've just updated the current DB
15:40 gmcharlt     tcohen: it didn't use to, but let me check quickly
15:36 oleonard     Librarians love reports
15:36 oleonard     To help understand how busy your are?
15:30 kivilahtio   why is there a statistical type of return? Why would one want to take reports of that?
15:19 kivilahtio   jcamins++ :)
15:13 cait         it didn't work at all in the versions we started with, bug jcamins++ fixed it
15:12 cait         fixing the popularity serach is still on my todo
15:08 cait         we have mostly academics... they haven't asked for that so far :)
15:06 kivilahtio   I think i'll report a minor bug for this
15:05 kivilahtio   but if you recalculate your total issues, you might get wrong numbers
15:05 kivilahtio   so this answers my core issues of migrating total issues :)
15:04 kivilahtio   cait: but if you run this script incrementally from statistics I think it works ok
15:03 kivilahtio   cait: so you need statistics for that, but I think this functionality still works in an unintended fashion
15:03 cait         so if something is very old, tht totals are not so interesting, but the recent use
15:02 cait         i know some libraries only look at the numbers in the last x years
15:02 cait         hm
15:02 kivilahtio   cait: it should never d3ecreas
15:01 kivilahtio   cait: I suppose totalissues is the number of times that book has been issued during its lifecycle
15:00 cait         might be a 123
15:00 cait         not sure if it's a bug or not
15:00 cait         so the totalissues is supposed to be all items?
15:00 cait         ah
14:55 kivilahtio   hmm, looks like a new bugentry
14:54 kivilahtio   regardless of your method of using the script
14:54 kivilahtio   cait: my issues is that if a item is issues 50 times, and then moved to the deleted_items-table, after running this script te biblioitems.totalissues drops by 50
14:51 cait         it would have to be checked out and deleted on the same day
14:50 cait         say you run the report every night
14:50 cait         i mean it's unlikely to happen
14:50 cait         hm i think if you assume it is deleted it was not checked out on the same day
14:50 kivilahtio   but if a item is deleted it is moved to deleted_items-table. The SQL in update_totalissues.pl doesnt touch deleted_items, but only replaces hte existing totalissuess-count with the count of available items
14:49 cait         it's ued for the item and record history... you will need that if you want to decide what to weed
14:49 cait         the information in statistics
14:49 cait         kivilahtio: we keep it so far
14:48 kivilahtio   cait: well I guess this must be used to enable relevancy ranking with zebra searches?
14:48 cait         hm not sure, never used that
14:46 kivilahtio   update_statistics doesn't take into account deleted items?
14:28 kivilahtio   jcamins: probably  not. I guess one needs to worry about that when the DB starts to get full :)
14:25 jcamins      I'm not sure how necessary it is, though.
14:25 jcamins      kivilahtio: you mean using replication and the black hole storage engine? Sure, you could do that.
14:24 kivilahtio   hmm, It could be moved to it's own statistics and reports server?
14:20 jcamins      kivilahtio: it will be very full.
14:17 kivilahtio   just curious what will happend after 5 years :)
14:15 kivilahtio   do you ever clean the statistics table in production?
14:07 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:07 tcohen       @later tell jcamins I'd like to ask u about 10688 and 3.12.x
14:05 tcohen       jcamins around?
13:56 kivilahtio   maybe there will be a bargain flight out there somewhere :)
13:56 kivilahtio   that's a lot
13:56 cait         almost as long as to nz
13:56 cait         wow
13:52 kivilahtio   ~30h travel time
13:51 kivilahtio   wow HELsinki -> CORdoba -> HELsinki 1440€ !
13:48 kivilahtio   cait: sounds cool, maybe I will :)
13:47 tcohen       need to trigger the 3.12.x build
13:47 tcohen       trying autocomplete for jenkins
13:47 cait         kivilahtio: you shoud totally go to kohacon in argentina .)
13:47 kivilahtio   jenk?
13:47 tcohen       :D
13:47 tcohen       jenk?
13:46 kivilahtio   If I ever come to a KohaCon I'll bring some
13:46 kivilahtio   we are going to Mikkelin tomorrow, to talk with them about some data migration issues and about forming a Koha consortium of sorts
13:46 tcohen       never heard of that!
13:46 tcohen       oh (googling)
13:46 tcohen       how r u doing?
13:46 kivilahtio   I am eating salmiakki, very good
13:46 kivilahtio   good to hear that :)
13:45 tcohen       great kivilahtio
13:45 kivilahtio   cait: It looks like a good solution
13:45 kivilahtio   hi tcohen! How do you do?
13:45 kivilahtio   cait: Also I think we could do with update_totalissues.pl
13:45 tcohen       hi kivilahtio
13:45 kivilahtio   cait: thank you
13:45 cait         it won't support everything zebra does i think and is still experimental
13:45 cait         kivilahtio: solr is not ripe for production
13:41 tcohen       gmcharlt: is jenkins loading a fresh DB for each Koha_3.12.x run?
13:24 kivilahtio   BibLibre test servers are inaccessible atm :(
13:23 kivilahtio   Uncertain about the current status of Solr integration
13:23 kivilahtio   oleonard: hi to you too!
13:23 kivilahtio   cait: yes I noticed. But then I realized that Solr is there as well!
13:20 oleonard     Hi
13:20 cait         hi oleonard :)
13:20 cait         if you are worried about performance
13:20 cait         kivilahtio: you saw that you can calculate those with a cronjob?
13:14 cait         i think zebra will reindex the whole record
13:13 kivilahtio   wow I am looking into the item.totalissues and updating biblioitem.totalissues. Is it really true that you must update the whole bibliographic record to Zebra. One cannot just update one MARC-field to the zebra indexes?
12:31 tcohen       hi Joubu
12:31 cait         hi Joubu
12:29 Joubu        hi
12:13 tcohen       morning #koha
10:31 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.3°C (11:30 AM CET on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
10:31 cait         @wunder Konstanz
09:43 cait         ah I see
09:31 sophie_m     cait, we are upgrading our customer every 3 monthes, so each time we jump for 3 releases. This time it will only be 2
09:29 cait         are you waiting for a specific patch?
09:28 cait         maybe the holidays
09:22 sophie_m     that's what I see also cait, no release in decembre...
09:21 cait         http://koha-community.org/category/release/3-10/
09:20 cait         judging form the website
09:20 cait         i think we are only up to 12 yet
09:19 sophie_m     v3.10.13 should not have been released ? I can't find it
09:18 sophie_m     hello #koha
09:08 cait         :)
08:59 nlegrand     cait: I've always thought it counts till the 31st :)
08:40 marcelr      :)
08:39 cait         hi marcelr - happy new year
08:38 marcelr      hi #koha
08:30 gaetan_B     yep still counts of course cait, happy new year to you :)
08:19 cait         bit late, but it still counts i hope?
08:18 cait         happy new year :)
08:18 cait         hi gaetan_B :)
08:16 gaetan_B     :)
08:16 wahanui      gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons
08:16 nlegrand     hey gaetan_B
08:12 gaetan_B     hello
08:10 nlegrand     Hey #koha
07:59 alex_a       bonjour
07:40 cait         bbl
07:38 reiveune     hello
06:49 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
06:28 BobB         ah, might have been what was in my mind, sorry I don't have time to check that now
06:27 paxed        BobB: if you mean OpacHighlightedWords, that doesn't seem to apply for the staff ui.
06:27 mtompset     Thanks for the feedback.
06:26 mtompset     I signed it off.
06:26 BobB         so I'll update the bug, mtompset
06:26 paxed        for opac. not staff.
06:25 BobB         its a sys pref
06:25 BobB         paxed, yes
06:25 BobB         certainly cancelled is more widespread
06:25 paxed        is there a setting to disable the search word hilighting in staff ui?
06:24 BobB         I guess not all .com websites are published from the US.
06:24 BobB         however usage in the US seems to vary:  I saw canceled in NY Times and Seattle newspaper but cancelled on the Avis website
06:24 mtompset     I think canceled may be regional, not national.
06:23 BobB         Usage of cancelled/canceled is less clear.  It seems canceled is US usage only - the rest of the world uses cancelled
06:23 BobB         mtompset, cataloger would be consistent, cataloguer would be used in the en-NZ or en-UK translations
06:04 cait         :)
06:02 mtompset     Greetings, cait.
06:02 wahanui      goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
06:02 dcook        night all
06:02 dcook        Book Thief time!
06:02 * dcook      is so tempted to keep working on a TT plugin, but most head to the cinema
06:02 dcook        morning cait
06:01 cait         good morning #koha
06:01 BobB         will take a peep
06:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11503 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Several typos
06:00 mtompset     So, BobB, do you think the changes related to cataloguer and canceled in bug 11503 are okay?
05:58 BobB         and issues and returns and reserves :)
05:58 BobB         and its definitely 'cataloguer' for us
05:57 BobB         we use the en-nz translation for British/Australian spelling
05:57 BobB         hi mtompset, afaik en generally provides US spelling;
04:54 mtompset     is en supposed to be American spelling, British spelling, or some other spelling for English?
04:48 mtompset     How should cataloguer/cataloger and canceled/cancelled be spelt/spelled?
04:46 Oak          hello mtompset :)
04:44 mtompset     Greetings, Oak eythian dcook.
04:44 mtompset     good night, jcamins.
04:41 mtompset     t really changed.
04:41 mtompset     Hardware requirements for Koha haven
04:41 mtompset     The pdf link? Because it had a commentary about hardware.
04:26 dcook        night, jcamins
04:26 dcook        lol
04:18 wahanui      It'll all be over soon...
04:18 jcamins      Good night.
04:18 jcamins      On second thought, I withdraw the question.
04:17 jcamins      Why would you link to a set of obsolete installation instructions when there are perfectly good instructions on the wiki?
04:13 eythian      I haven't looked, but I expect so.
04:13 dcook        I saw a copyright statement to 2007, but now I see one for 2012
04:12 dcook        Ah, it looks like it's still updating too?
04:12 eythian      Shouldn't go anywhere in a hurry
04:12 eythian      T::T is fairly well established
04:10 dcook        Progress and all that
04:10 dcook        I suppose that sort of thing is inevitable and you just have to see what happens when it happens
04:10 dcook        Sometimes, I wonder what will happen when we move away from Template::Toolkit and we have to redo some of our magic in other ways...
04:01 * Oak        waves
02:08 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
00:31 rangi        yeah
00:31 rangi        heh
00:28 jcamins      rangi: my rule of thumb is that if I remove the punctuation and add spaces, I can just use Perl code as Python.