Time |
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00:07 |
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jcamins |
dcook: what should I do with the asparagus? |
00:08 |
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00:08 |
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schnydszch |
hi koha community! |
00:08 |
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wizzyrea |
you should wrap it in pancetta and bake it. |
00:08 |
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wizzyrea |
with a bit of parmesan cheese. |
00:08 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, nice! |
00:09 |
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jcamins |
Unfortunately, I am sans pancetta. |
00:09 |
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wizzyrea |
though you didn't ask me :P |
00:09 |
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bag |
jcamins: as always grill it :) |
00:09 |
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bag |
heh |
00:09 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I figured you deserved a (brief) break. |
00:09 |
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jcamins |
You've had good advice the last few times. |
00:10 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
00:10 |
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wizzyrea |
my second favorite way, is terribly pedestrian |
00:13 |
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* jcamins |
passes out from lack of oxygen. |
00:13 |
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jcamins |
I've been holding my breath waiting to hear it! |
00:13 |
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wizzyrea |
olive oil, salt, pepper, and in the microwave for about 5 minutes |
00:13 |
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wizzyrea |
eek sorry |
00:14 |
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wizzyrea |
garlic, if you feel like it |
00:14 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
00:14 |
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jcamins |
I was inspired by the pancetta idea. |
00:14 |
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jcamins |
I have bacon. |
00:14 |
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* jcamins |
feels very decrepit this evening. |
00:15 |
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wizzyrea |
bacon would totally work too. |
00:15 |
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wizzyrea |
might take a bit longer to cook though |
00:15 |
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jcamins |
I carried 40# (18kg) of groceries home, and now I can hardly lift my arms. |
00:15 |
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jcamins |
The bacon's already cooked, which is less than ideal, but combining bacon and asparagus sounds inspired. |
00:16 |
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wizzyrea |
oof! |
00:16 |
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00:31 |
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dcook |
I heard bacon |
00:31 |
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dcook |
Nothing like a good trip to the grocery store to wear one out |
00:31 |
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* dcook |
likes bag's idea of grilling the asparagus |
00:31 |
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dcook |
I think I usually just have it fried |
00:31 |
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wizzyrea |
grilling it would be good. But more work than microwaving. |
00:31 |
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bag |
with a little olive oil salt and pepper :) |
00:32 |
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dcook |
I don't think we're allowed to use the microwave for cooking in the house |
00:32 |
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dcook |
Maybe for 'baked' potatoes |
00:32 |
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wizzyrea |
"steamed" potatoes ^.^ |
00:32 |
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dcook |
hehe |
00:32 |
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dcook |
Mmm, you guys are making me hungry |
00:32 |
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wizzyrea |
i specialise in that. |
00:33 |
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dcook |
Hmm, curry wednesday? |
00:33 |
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* dcook |
almost wants to try something new today |
00:33 |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
00:33 |
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eythian |
curry wednesday was today, indeed. |
00:34 |
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dcook |
When I think about Catalyst, my first two thoughts are usually "open source" and "curry wednesday" |
00:34 |
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eythian |
not beer o'clock? For shame! |
00:34 |
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dcook |
That's sometimes the third thought ;) |
00:34 |
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dcook |
I guess you folk don't talk about beer enough |
00:35 |
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wizzyrea |
it's because we're at beer o'clock |
00:36 |
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dcook |
That's true. I guess you don't want to rub the rest of our noses in the (lack of) beer |
00:37 |
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bag |
I always think about trea and whiskey :) |
00:37 |
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bag |
heh |
00:37 |
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bag |
good story good times :D |
00:37 |
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00:38 |
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rangi |
ok, bugzilla is going to go down for a minute, and wahanui and the logbot, resizing the disk on my linode bbiab |
00:38 |
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dcook |
cheers, rangi |
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00:51 |
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rangi |
its just hte 1024 one |
00:51 |
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dcook |
That handles bugzilla and all the things? |
00:52 |
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rangi |
yup |
00:52 |
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rangi |
ive tuned them quite a bit |
00:52 |
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rangi |
nginx is out in front doing all the static stuffs |
00:52 |
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rangi |
right dashboard and logs back |
00:53 |
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dcook |
Sweet. I keep thinking about getting the 1024 just so I can play around wherever without opening up my home network. Hmm.. |
00:54 |
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* dcook |
looks to see if openshift is still free.. |
00:55 |
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dcook |
What happens if you exceed your usage with Linode? Extra fees or do they just halt traffic? |
00:55 |
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rangi |
dunno, never had it happen |
00:56 |
|
rangi |
Total: 52.8 GB |
00:56 |
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rangi |
you have used 2% |
00:56 |
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rangi |
so 52 GB is 2% |
00:56 |
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dcook |
Well that answers that question |
00:56 |
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rangi |
you get like 2066GB a month |
00:57 |
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wizzyrea |
it's ludicrous |
00:57 |
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dcook |
That's true. Having never run a server, I'm never sure how much traffic actually gets generated. |
00:58 |
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rangi |
thats hosting all the downloads |
00:58 |
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rangi |
ive never got close |
00:58 |
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rangi |
http://download.koha-community[…]wstats/awstats.pl |
00:59 |
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rangi |
download does the most traffic of any of hte sites i have on there |
00:59 |
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wizzyrea |
koha-community.org has only ever done 2gb |
00:59 |
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wizzyrea |
well in recent times |
00:59 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I sauteed the asparagus with flour and bacon, then seasoned with red pepper flakes and rice vinegar. |
00:59 |
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jcamins |
It's amazing. |
00:59 |
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wizzyrea |
well that sounds magic. |
01:00 |
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* dcook |
wonders if jcamins's retirement plan involves becoming a chef |
01:01 |
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jcamins |
dcook: the thought has crossed my mind. |
01:04 |
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jcamins |
Yeah... wow. |
01:07 |
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* jcamins |
can't get over how good that was. |
01:09 |
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dcook |
:) |
01:13 |
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rangi |
dcook: https://library.linode.com/longview they have this now too, which is pretty sweet |
01:15 |
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01:17 |
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dcook |
That does look rather rad. I could use all the help I could get on monitoring a system. |
01:21 |
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dcook |
That is a rather nice set of guides as well |
01:21 |
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dcook |
I don't know what I would really use it for but it would be fun nonetheless... |
01:22 |
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dcook |
For the cost of a (small) case of beer, why not, eh? |
01:22 |
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jcamins |
A case of beer? |
01:23 |
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jcamins |
That seems very cheap for a case of beer. |
01:23 |
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jcamins |
Unless you're looking at one of the larger instances. |
01:24 |
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wizzyrea |
cjh++ again with the gitify and general awesomeness. |
01:25 |
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dcook |
cjh++ indeed |
01:25 |
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dcook |
jcamins: $20 for a case of beer? |
01:25 |
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dcook |
In this case, I'm referring to 6 bottles. I think that's outrageously expensive :p |
01:25 |
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cjh |
ty :) |
01:25 |
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dcook |
He lives! |
01:25 |
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* cjh |
fades back into the darkness |
01:26 |
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jcamins |
dcook: oh, I thought a case was 24. |
01:27 |
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dcook |
If I knew you didn't drink/like beer, I'd say I like the way you think |
01:27 |
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jcamins |
lol |
01:37 |
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wizzyrea |
rangi++ for mentioning longview |
01:44 |
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01:44 |
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|R |
Hey there :) |
01:45 |
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|R |
I've got a weird question, I need to convert our MARC21 file I have to UNIMARC... I see it's easy to import into Koha, but is the unimarc export as easy for a stock install? or anything I should take into account? :) |
01:46 |
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jcamins |
|R: Koha doesn't do any MARC conversion. You'll need to use something else to do that. |
01:46 |
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|R |
oh ok, thanks for saving me from trying ! |
01:47 |
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|R |
I've been looking around for such a conversion tool and it's ... well... very hard to find |
01:47 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's not something that most people do. |
01:48 |
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|R |
yeah, we're a small journal platform in québec using marc21 but people in france need unimarc |
01:48 |
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|R |
and from what I understand some commercial SIGB do it, but simple tools need you to write your own convesion config (And i'm no marc21/unimarc expert at all) |
01:49 |
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eythian |
I get the impression that they're semantically different in parts, so a general automated conversion is impossible. |
01:49 |
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eythian |
that said, you could probably automate 90+% of it |
01:50 |
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|R |
yeah, no 1-to-1 it seems, but then again, a stock one would probably do in our case wher eit's just journals title / isbn and such... |
01:50 |
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|R |
I think I've found the other way around at some point but ... hehe |
01:52 |
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rangi |
IR: just a point, (since you hit my pet peeve) the opposite of open source is not commercial, it's proprietary .. both proprietary and opensource can be commercial and non commercial |
01:52 |
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rangi |
what id look for is an xslt file that does the crosswalk |
01:52 |
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rangi |
and then write a few lines of perl to use that to do it |
01:53 |
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|R |
sorry for the mishap, I usually proprietary in french (and I agree! ;) |
01:53 |
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|R |
say* |
01:54 |
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rangi |
http://www.systemsplanning.com/marconvert/ <-- maybe this? |
01:54 |
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dcook |
IR: This isn't complete but perhaps you could reverse engineer it (http://search.cpan.org/~freder[…]imarcToMarc21.pm) |
01:54 |
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|R |
so, marc to marc-xml then xslt to unimarc-xml to ... |
01:55 |
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rangi |
yeah that was what i was thinking |
01:55 |
|
rangi |
From MARC21 to UNIMARC or the reverse |
01:55 |
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dcook |
Actually, don't BibLibre have marc21 to unimarc tools? |
01:55 |
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rangi |
that marconvert looks like it shold do what you want |
01:55 |
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rangi |
and its apache license |
01:55 |
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|R |
but it's not available actually, it's just MARCvie |
01:55 |
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|R |
w |
01:56 |
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rangi |
ah lamers |
01:56 |
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|R |
they always talk about both, but then MARConvert needs to be custom built for your need, |
01:56 |
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rangi |
id hunt in the source |
01:56 |
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rangi |
maybe they have an xslt file in there :) |
01:56 |
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rangi |
if you can get the source that is |
01:57 |
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|R |
I looked at their repository, but my is that when it got open sourced and given to OCLC, it somehow seems to have gotten unevenly released.. |
01:57 |
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rangi |
how werid that oclc would do something like that |
01:57 |
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|R |
my guess* (damn laptop keyboard) |
01:57 |
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rangi |
weird even |
01:57 |
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rangi |
(that was sarcasm btw :)) |
01:57 |
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|R |
:P |
01:58 |
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rangi |
wow oclc.org is slow for me |
01:58 |
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wizzyrea |
I need a gif for "How WEIRD!" |
01:58 |
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|R |
haha :) |
01:58 |
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dcook |
rangi: They know it's you! ;) |
01:59 |
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wizzyrea |
the internets can sense haters. |
01:59 |
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rangi |
wtf |
01:59 |
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rangi |
http://worldcat.org/devnet/cod[…]rt/trunk/clients/ |
01:59 |
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rangi |
who does that???!??! |
01:59 |
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dcook |
Mm, looks like my little project was unimarc to marc21.. |
01:59 |
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|R |
exactly |
02:00 |
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|R |
dcook: hehe yes, everything to marc21 seems more popular :P |
02:00 |
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rangi |
we released the code, but its utterly unusable |
02:00 |
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rangi |
good luck with that |
02:00 |
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|R |
rangi: yep | |
02:00 |
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|R |
:| |
02:00 |
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rangi |
btw pay us some money for some data you actually already own |
02:00 |
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rangi |
</oclc> |
02:00 |
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dcook |
IR: I'll share my mappings with you at least |
02:01 |
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|R |
dcook: what kind of mapping? :) |
02:02 |
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|R |
(and that MARConvert is a windows gui, MARCview runs in wine but :P) |
02:02 |
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pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "unimarc to marc21" (77 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1 |
02:03 |
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|R |
thanks :) |
02:03 |
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dcook |
IR: unimarc to marc21 so not super helpful but possibly better than nothing |
02:03 |
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dcook |
Spent a while comparing the two specs |
02:03 |
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dcook |
np |
02:03 |
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|R |
It'll at least help me confirm a conversion ;) |
02:03 |
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eythian |
just play it backwards |
02:04 |
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dcook |
I wrote that a while ago so it might not be entirely comprehensive |
02:04 |
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dcook |
It might've just had tags that were used in the dataset |
02:04 |
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dcook |
Although that would be weird |
02:04 |
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rangi |
if you play it backwards its here comes the sun by the beatles |
02:04 |
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dcook |
lol |
02:04 |
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eythian |
I don't believe anything to do with MARC could have that effect. |
02:05 |
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dcook |
^^ |
02:05 |
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eythian |
Maybe the Imperial March |
02:05 |
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dcook |
It might be easier to go marc21 to unimarc actually... |
02:05 |
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dcook |
I think unimarc separates out more fields |
02:06 |
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|R |
ok :) |
02:07 |
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|R |
with the time I use for this I might as well just pay someone in France to do it :P |
02:08 |
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dcook |
Not a bad idea |
02:08 |
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dcook |
Although you'd probably need a bit of input |
02:08 |
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|R |
gosh usemarcon could definitaly not be more esoteric... |
02:08 |
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dcook |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]-July/024728.html |
02:08 |
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dcook |
IR ^^ |
02:09 |
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rangi |
i wonder if it is in one of their repos |
02:09 |
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rangi |
http://git.biblibre.com/ |
02:10 |
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jcamins |
dcook: UNIMARC->MARC21 is much easier *because* UNIMARC separates out more fields. |
02:10 |
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|R |
dcook: I'm always afraid to write to people on their post after 3 years and look like a stalker haha but yeah, I should try and contact them |
02:10 |
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rangi |
hdl is no longer there |
02:10 |
|
rangi |
but mail paul |
02:11 |
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dcook |
Paul is super nice, so I'm sure he could give you info at the least |
02:11 |
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dcook |
jcamins: Good point |
02:12 |
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|R |
Paul? :) |
02:12 |
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|R |
I found daniel on twitter I think (the guy who asked) |
02:13 |
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rangi |
http://biblibre.com/en or fr for you :) |
02:13 |
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|R |
cool, I'll try with both ^_^ |
02:50 |
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03:09 |
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|R |
ok, enough email written, this is past overtime haha ;) |
03:37 |
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wizzyrea |
oh man |
03:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/a[…]llan/10955082416/ < wellies today |
03:37 |
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wizzyrea |
cruel cruel cruel to be indoors. |
03:42 |
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eythian |
the HDR is strong in this one |
03:42 |
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rangi |
There's 80 trillion Mexican soccer fans in town |
03:43 |
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bag |
evening |
03:47 |
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rangi |
I suspect even though we will get utterly caned in our world cup qualifier tonight a good time will be had by all |
03:52 |
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bag |
oh how long until game time? |
03:52 |
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bag |
anyone going? |
03:53 |
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eythian |
Oh no. I have to bike to Thordon at around 6. It's going to be madness. |
03:53 |
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ibeardslee |
eythian: taking your sword? |
03:53 |
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eythian |
yeah |
03:53 |
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bag |
always |
03:54 |
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04:00 |
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eythian |
ibeardslee: you'd be the sort of person who has a 4mm allen key that I could borrow. Would this be true? |
04:01 |
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ibeardslee |
yes, although it would be at home. |
04:02 |
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ibeardslee |
there are a bunch of sysadmin tools you could browse through in the build room |
04:02 |
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eythian |
I might have a look, ta |
04:07 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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04:56 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, dpk dpk1 |
04:57 |
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mtompset |
Did you forget to set the status of bug 11078 correctly? |
04:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Failed QA , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds |
04:58 |
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* mtompset |
hopes that dpk dpk1 or WaylonR will reply. |
05:09 |
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dac |
The moment where you think you're so smart with your regex |
05:09 |
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dac |
Then the subsequent moment when you realize that the regex works, but your solution isn't going to work |
05:09 |
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dac |
Grr |
05:09 |
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dac |
Well, it might.. |
05:10 |
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dac |
No...mostly yes, but sometimes probably not.. |
05:11 |
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mtompset |
dac: So been there, done that. Regex's don't like me. :P |
05:12 |
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dac |
mtompset: Actually, I find regexes and I get along better and better all the time. It might just not be enough in this context |
05:12 |
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mtompset |
So, what are you trying to do and where? |
05:13 |
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dac |
Well, not Koha |
05:13 |
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dac |
Hmm, how to explain it.. |
05:14 |
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dac |
Scraping using xpath |
05:14 |
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dac |
Actually, that's not it |
05:14 |
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dac |
That's fine |
05:14 |
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dac |
Building a user-friendly UI to generate xpath based on highlighted sections of a page |
05:14 |
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dac |
That in itself...not that hard |
05:14 |
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dac |
But allowing users to either use highlighting and/or handcrafted xpath...trickier |
05:15 |
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dac |
Because the highlighting reads the actual DOM. Handcrafted queries don't. |
05:15 |
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dac |
I'm generating about 4-6 different queries for different sections of a page...and they're nested |
05:16 |
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dac |
So, the scenario: You've highlighted a list item, and you've highlighted the title, date, and author within that list item. You've built your relative xpath by comparing the selected nodes. |
05:16 |
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dac |
However, you find the selection isn't quite what you want and you want to hand edit... |
05:16 |
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dac |
You don't have a selected node to relate to if you hand edit |
05:17 |
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dac |
One way around that might be using xpath in Javascript but that brings some pain if one uses indexes.. |
05:17 |
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dac |
:D |
05:19 |
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dac |
Actually, maybe using xpath in Javascript is the best bet.. |
05:20 |
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dac |
I wonder if jquery compensates for IE using 0 based indexes rather than 1 based indexes (as it should) |
05:21 |
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mtompset |
I'll let you go back to your evil, evil world. :P |
05:21 |
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dac |
lol |
05:23 |
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mtompset |
dpk dpk1: you there? |
05:24 |
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mtompset |
Have you ever really wanted to work on something to sign it off, and you didn't get an answer? The problem is usually the other way around. :( |
05:25 |
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dac |
? |
05:28 |
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dac |
Hmm, maybe the regex idea will work despite being suboptimal |
05:29 |
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dac |
Oh, unless... |
05:31 |
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bag |
oh nice the NZ soccer/football game is on TV here |
05:31 |
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bag |
maybe I'll watch along for a bit |
05:31 |
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dac |
bag: Nice! |
05:31 |
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dac |
How far along is it? |
05:31 |
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mtompset |
That might explain the lack of replies. ;) |
05:31 |
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bag |
I think it starts in another half an hour |
05:32 |
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dac |
I'm trying to remember what the current standing is |
05:32 |
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dac |
All I recall is that Mexico has had a weird time qualifying |
05:32 |
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dac |
Load faster webpage! |
05:32 |
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bag |
I think NZ has to score a bunch of goals :) |
05:35 |
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dac |
5-1 Mexico in the first leg |
05:35 |
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dac |
Hmm |
05:37 |
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dac |
Mmm, they do have the away goal, so that is handy |
05:37 |
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dac |
So 4 goals.. |
05:37 |
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* dac |
used to be a crazy soccer fan |
05:41 |
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bag |
yup NZ needs to win 4-0 |
05:45 |
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05:46 |
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mtompset |
Well, that's it. Have a great day, #koha. |
05:46 |
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mtompset |
Bye, dac bag ebegin. |
05:54 |
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dac |
Man...Canada got slaughtered by Honduras in October... |
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dac |
If they had won that game, they could've actually made it.. |
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dac |
One day maybe :p |
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dac |
Hmm, turns out the regex trick works |
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dac |
A more difficult solution would be to use xpath to get a list of possible list nodes and then check the parent of each title/date/author node against that list of nodes... |
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dac |
Errr difficult/expensive |
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wizzyrea |
sup |
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waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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cait |
hi reiveune :) and bye all |
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bonjour |
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Bonjour Alex, ici, avoir de la crème glacée et café avec du poulet. Sur la maison. |
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kivilahtio |
Excuse me, but what is the new default bootstrap theme? |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: it's a new theme based on http://getbootstrap.com/ ? |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora work-cait :-) |
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kivilahtio |
hyvää huomenta cait! |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: Ok, so what does that mean regarding our localization efforts? |
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kivilahtio |
is the new bootstrap still localizable? |
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kivilahtio |
We just started Koha localiation big time |
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kivilahtio |
and we are translating the old prog |
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cait |
kivilahtio: the new bootstrap has a new po file, buidling on the existing one |
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magnuse |
of course it's localizable - this is Koha y'know! |
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cait |
it's in 3.14 only |
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kivilahtio |
my point is that is the work we are doing for prog just now getting wasted |
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kivilahtio |
should we move to bootsrtap now? |
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kivilahtio |
if 50% is wasted, we need to retarget our localization efforts |
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magnuse |
it looks like the prog and bootstrap .po files are about the same size |
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magnuse |
so maybe choose either prog or bootstrap and translate that? |
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kivilahtio |
I think I need to take a look at bootstrap first :) |
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magnuse |
it's worth a look! :-) |
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hello |
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kivilahtio |
looks pretty neat |
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kivilahtio |
I guess everyubody is moving to bootstrap then? |
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cait |
kivilahtio: you can translate prog, then ask bernardo - he can move the strings that are doubled up |
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cait |
kivilahtio: he did that for existing translations, so only the differences for bootstrap had to be translated |
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kivilahtio |
looks like bootstrap and prog are almost similar |
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kivilahtio |
any prognosis for the future of prog vs bootstrap? |
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kivilahtio |
is there an agreement to deprecate prog? |
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cait |
it will be a step by step thing |
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cait |
but yes, check the mailing list, there has been a discussion about it |
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samueld |
hi everybody |
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hi samueld |
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magnuse |
yay! http://builtinperl.com/ |
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schnydszch |
Hi! I'm importing a book with this 952: 952 \\$iMR_$kR_$p07776d$v0.00$40$eDonation$00$915303$bLLS$m0$10$o(F) KPM 1744.5 O32 2005$d0000-00-00$n0$j0$50$70$2lcc$g0.00$yBK$l0$aLLS$fDonation I enabled add incoming record in item processing |
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cait |
is LLS an existing branchcode? |
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schnydszch |
I added 962i in BKS framework |
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schnydszch |
yes it is. |
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schnydszch |
the problem is 952i, which is the newest data is not imported |
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schnydszch |
all other data in 952 tag are already in Koha, only subfield is the newest data |
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schnydszch |
and also $k |
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cait |
items won't get overlayed |
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cait |
there will be a brand new feature in 3.14 to let you do that, but currently it's not possible |
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schnydszch |
okay. 3.14 will be out in a week right? |
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cait |
yes, but it will be very very new then |
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schnydszch |
one thing to do what i wanted to do is to delete the items but that won't work since there are items circulated already |
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cait |
what is in $i? |
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schnydszch |
it's supposed to be MR No. |
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schnydszch |
Memorandum Receipt No. for a particular item |
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cait |
yu could use sql to insert into the items and then do a complete reindex |
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cait |
that's what you can currently do, apart from writing a script and adding the info or waiting for 3.14 |
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schnydszch |
but only the itemnumberbiblionumberbiblioitemnumberbarcodedateaccessionedbookselleridhomebranchpricereplacementpricereplacementpricedatedatelastborroweddatelastseenstacknotforloandamageditemlostwthdrawnitemcallnumbercoded_location_qualifierissuesrenewalsreservesrestricteditemnotesholdingbranchpaidfortimestamplocationpermanent_locationonloancn_sourcecn_sortccodematerialsuriitypemore_subfields_xmlenumchroncopynumberst |
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schnydszch |
are available columns, and 952$i can only be put in more_subfields_xml |
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cait |
you could consider using stocknumber |
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schnydszch |
hmm.. |
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cait |
it's nrmally mapped to §i |
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cait |
it's an inventory number |
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cait |
that is if you are not using it already for other information |
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cait |
hm and i don't see it in your list |
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cait |
which version are you on? |
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schnydszch |
the latest 3.12.6 |
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cait |
hm there shoudl a be stocknumber in items and deleteditems then |
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schnydszch |
i should add this in deleteditems table? |
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schnydszch |
oh it's already there |
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schnydszch |
ow about $k? it's different from MR or stocknumber. I'll try to work this out again tomorrow. Thank you very much @cait Cheers! |
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cait |
not sure what $k is |
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cait |
ah, already gone :) |
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Sammie |
Good morning! Well in my part of the world.....relatively new user, is there a way to automatically assign barcodes? Right now I'm physically inputting bar odes for my serials. |
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cait |
hi Sammie |
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cait |
there is an AutoBarcode perference, but i am not sure if it will work if you are adding serial issues in the serials module |
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cait |
it will work in cataloguing |
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Sammie |
Oh I see! |
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ebegin |
morning ! |
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cait |
hi ebegin :) |
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cait |
bgkriegel++ #being an awesome translation manager |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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ebegin |
@wunder montreal quebec |
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ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -4.0°C (8:00 AM EST on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.62 in 1037 hPa (Rising). |
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francharb |
Good morning #koha |
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cait |
good mornign tcohen :) and francharb :) |
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cait |
so good to see you back |
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francharb |
good morning cait! thank you!! |
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francharb |
I'm glad being back here! :) |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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cait |
hi oleonard |
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cait |
i have a complaint :) |
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cait |
the little arrow next to cart - i have difficulties making it behave nicely for words (translations) of different length |
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* oleonard |
puts his fingers in his ears and starts singing |
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cait |
heh |
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oleonard |
Can you elaborate cait? |
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cait |
i can show :) |
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cait |
https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/ |
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cait |
when the little arrow in lists looks nice for one language, it's ugly for the other |
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cait |
there are different places we have tht, another is the more searches pull down with a down arrow |
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oleonard |
I see |
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oleonard |
This complaint must have been long-simmering |
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cait |
we updated another library to 3.12 today, so i ran into it again :) |
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oleonard |
That is a shortsighted design decision. :( |
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cait |
oleonard: i think it did work in older version with the single gif, maybe we can think of something? |
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cait |
it's not super urgent, just a bit weird and against my perfectionism :) |
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cait |
i think there are 3-4 places where hte arrows appear |
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tony |
Which install package should I use since my server is Centos |
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cait |
oleonard: for comparision - a 3.6 installation |
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oleonard |
Yes, I changed the way the buttons were styled, using more modern CSS techniques. |
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tcohen |
bug 10908 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10908 blocker, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Fix broken auth_by_bind LDAP mode |
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tcohen |
that's a blocker for 3.12.x too? |
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tony |
Which install package should I use since my server is Centos |
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cait |
hm coudl imagine it is, but maybe ask eythian? |
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cait |
tony: there are no centos packages, packages are only available for debian and ubuntu afaik |
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cait |
tony: there are some older centos intallation instructions on our wiki |
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cait |
wiki* |
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cait |
wiki? |
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cait |
wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
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cait |
wiki? |
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cait |
wahanui: wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
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tony |
Thanks you guys .. I was thinking that a debian package might work |
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cait |
oh. no wahanui. |
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tcohen |
tony, make sure you at least have CentOS 6 |
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tony |
I do |
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tcohen |
otherwise you will suffer a lot, because Perl 5.8 is deprecated for the stable Koha |
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tcohen |
oh |
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tcohen |
great :-D |
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cait |
@later tell eythian can you bring back wahanui please? |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
@later tell eythian is 10908 a blocker for 3.12.x? |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
jcamins around? |
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cait |
oleonard: would it be ok to file a bug? |
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oleonard |
cait: Yes, definitely |
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cait |
ok, will do |
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cait |
oleonard: done - bug 11276 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Sprite icons not in right spot on translated templates |
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tcohen |
oleonard: what was the URL for sco? |
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oleonard |
/cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl |
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tcohen |
thx :-D |
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oleonard |
Interesting translation problem paul_p raises... term vs. term... |
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cait |
yeah, i have had that happen too |
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cait |
subject |
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cait |
email subject and topical subjects |
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cait |
there are some examples |
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balamurugan |
hello to all |
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balamurugan |
anybody here to help me to rebuild zebra index |
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oleonard |
How did you install Koha balamurugan? |
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balamurugan |
i installed koha 3.8 through live cd |
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balamurugan |
and the rebuild_zebra.pl is in the migration_tools directory |
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balamurugan |
i checked that also |
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jcamins |
oleonard: what's up? |
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oleonard |
jcamins: You're a fan of ElasticSearch are you? |
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balamurugan |
but while i am giving the command rebuild it is saying that command not found |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I am, yes. |
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balamurugan |
i log as root user oleonard and given the command |
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balamurugan |
in the terminal |
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oleonard |
Do you think that will translate into working on ElasticSearch for Koha? |
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jcamins |
Probably not, no. |
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jcamins |
Why do you ask? |
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oleonard |
There is a discussion on the ByWater Partners list about implementing a browse feature, but the work that has been done is all in Solr |
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oleonard |
Since I'm guessing no ByWater libraries are using Solr, that route seems like a non-starter |
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cait |
hm and external to koha i think - is it the one from the italian library? |
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oleonard |
cait: Yes |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
i think he presented it ... in edinburgh maybe? |
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jcamins |
Ah. Interesting. I probably would've chosen to do browse with Zebra, given that's what the data is in already. |
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cait |
i had the impression it was using solr only for the index, but still using zebra for search |
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jcamins |
cait: right, that's why I would've done browse using Zebra. |
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oleonard |
I don't know anything about how browse could work in Zebra or Solr or ElasticSearch, but I would hate to see a lot of effort put into making it work with Solr if there is a serious push to move away from both Solr and Zebra |
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tcohen |
@later tell gmcharlt $record->encoding( 'UTF-8' ) vs SetMarcUnicodeFlag($record, $marcflavour)? |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
oleonard: maybe implementing it with zebra shoudl be discussed |
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cait |
making solr fully work might be more work |
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cait |
and having both search engines installed and running seems... wrong |
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oleonard |
yes, especially if you only need one of them for a browse feature |
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cait |
jcamins: is browsing with zebra doable? |
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jcamins |
cait: not easily, but I believe it would be possible. |
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ashimema |
Probably a completely stupid question.. but what exactly do people actually mean by a 'browse feature' |
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oleonard |
See Bug 569 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=569 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Searches need 'browse' option |
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oleonard |
Also: Yay, a bug I filed 10 years ago is still open! |
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oleonard |
Of course it is an enhancement request ;) |
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nengard |
hehe |
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ashimema |
thanks oleonard.. |
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ashimema |
pretty impressive to have such a long lasting enhancment in bugzilla though ... |
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ashimema |
you could have learnt to code it in that time frame ;) |
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ashimema |
had you not been making koha look so great ;) |
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oleonard |
Yeah... I wasted some time on Twitter and stuff too... |
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cait |
oleonard: and still thousands of libraries adopted koha in the meantime without any browsing ;) |
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cait |
oleonard: here libraries are asking for it too, of course |
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oleonard |
I guess no one wants it badly enough to sponsor it yet |
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nengard |
the thing is i think it's something libraries want but patrons don't clammer for so no one has pushed very hard to get it |
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nengard |
or what oleonard said :) |
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nengard |
when i'm in training things always seem like the end of the world ... but then the libraries never mention it again :) |
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oleonard |
Yeah, it makes you wonder what other things would stop being an issue if they just lived with it for a while |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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oleonard |
Hi mtompset |
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* mtompset |
is awaiting the release of Koha Pi. That is today, is it not? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: gmcharlt is in the US. |
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senator |
IOW, it's 7:31 AM for him :-) |
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jcamins |
senator: actually, I meant today is "today," not "tomorrow." |
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cait |
hm i thought 21st |
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cait |
and today is 20th? |
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* oleonard |
thought the 21st as well |
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jcamins |
cait: right, it's the 21st in NZ later today, but gmcharlt is in the US. :) |
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gmcharlt |
it's the 21st, in my time zone |
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gmcharlt |
(mwa-ha-ha?) |
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cait |
oh? |
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cait |
you people are confusing me. again. |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
today is the 20th. I am sticking with that |
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gmcharlt |
er, release is the 21st, in my time zone, i.e., tomorrow |
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cait |
but you can release earlier if you raelly want to - on my 20th :) |
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gmcharlt |
I'm not asserting that I live one day in the future ;) |
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jcamins |
But if gmcharlt lived in NZ, today would actually be tomorrow, so the release would be tonight. |
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* cait |
mimicks owen and puts fingers in her ears and starts singing |
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jcamins |
(yes, this is actually how I think about time zones) |
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gmcharlt |
let's go by the One True Guide |
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gmcharlt |
@arewethereyet |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 1 day |
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oleonard |
huginn, you're not the boss of gmcharlt! |
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huginn |
oleonard: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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* mtompset |
laughs. |
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* cait |
curses a bit about the quote of the day feature |
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cait |
i have alibrary where it just won't show up on the start page and i don't see why |
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jcamins |
cait: missing quotes? |
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cait |
nope |
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cait |
quuotes look fine |
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cait |
feature is activated |
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cait |
it does show on their test system |
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cait |
not on production |
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mtompset |
cait: I found the number mess to be strange. |
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mtompset |
Oh, that's news. Sorry. |
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oleonard |
cait: Not hidden by JS or CSS is it? |
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mtompset |
Can you give a set of steps to duplicate the problem? |
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cait |
oleonard: doesn't look like it |
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cait |
quite a puzzle |
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mtompset |
So quote of the day was added 3.10.0... |
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mtompset |
which theme are you using? |
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cait |
mtompset: prog |
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mtompset |
Hmmm.... strange... t/db_dependent/Koha.t failed... checking my daily. |
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mtompset |
I mean data. |
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mtompset |
Ah... my data is empty. |
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ashimema |
brb |
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mtompset |
How do you add quotes? |
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oleonard |
/cgi-bin/koha/tools/quotes.pl |
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cait |
it's under tools |
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mtompset |
found it under tools... QOTD -- not exactly what I was quickly scanning for. :) |
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mtompset |
Okay, data in place. tests run. |
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mtompset |
Umm... so it isn't even displaying the quote of the day on the main screen?! |
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cait |
nope. |
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mtompset |
Is that the problem? |
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cait |
feature is turned on, quotes in database, no quote |
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mtompset |
but opac-main? |
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mtompset |
or opac-search? |
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mtompset |
which opac page are you expecting it on? |
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cait |
main |
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cait |
only main |
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mtompset |
well, that's strange. |
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mtompset |
I had your problem. I did a refresh after clicking the icon, and it is showing now. |
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mtompset |
cait: How many quotes are in the DB? |
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oleonard |
mtompset: "clicking the icon?" |
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mtompset |
top left of the bar... nice big koha icon. |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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mtompset |
bye, tcohen. |
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mtompset |
cait: I can't replicate the problem now. :( |
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jcamins |
I can't seem to find Firebug in FF 3.6. |
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mtompset |
3.6?! |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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mtompset |
Oh right... you aren't using windows and running up the version numbers like toilet paper. |
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jcamins |
Nah, I also have FF gazillion something. |
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jcamins |
Oh, never mind. This script never worked in FF 3.6. So it's not my fault. |
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cait |
mtompset: yeah , not surprised |
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cait |
it wrks on the test installation |
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* jcamins |
loses interest. |
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cait |
i will have to run some more tests |
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cait |
mtompset: thx for testing |
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mtompset |
No problem. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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rambutan |
@quote add <mtompset> Oh right... you aren't using windows and running up the version numbers like toilet paper |
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huginn |
rambutan: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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mtompset |
*whew* saved from the reputations as a talking about toilet paper. :P |
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SlyzertVoltrond |
Can I backup Koha's application by just copying the directory which Koha's source codes resides to some place and later put it back in if necessary? |
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mtompset |
What are you trying to backup? |
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mtompset |
And why? |
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SlyzertVoltrond |
Just the application(Perl), I know about db backups |
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SlyzertVoltrond |
For in case the upgrade process ran into problems and the system is unusable because of it, I can just revert back to the old version |
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* cait |
waves |
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* nengard |
waves back |
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cait |
:) |
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|R |
I see koha uses 9999 as port for SRU, is this a standard ? Loc.gov seems to be using the same port as z39.50 (210) and nothing in /etc/services nor on google :) |
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gmcharlt |
|R: there's no standard port |
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|R |
ok :) |
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oleonard |
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear[…]sb000l2y3#summary ! |
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gmcharlt |
! |
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cait |
! |
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oleonard |
I felt it, but it didn't occur to me that it might be an earthquake. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch '3.14.x' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a197e25c7e37fbca> / Translation updates for 3.14.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e43b176c77c6e2436> / Merge branch 'new/bug11269' into 3.14.x <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a27aeb378b9f6a09d> / Merge |
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gmcharlt |
bgkriegel++ |
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gmcharlt |
translators++ |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #226 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1515 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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cait |
bgkriegel++ :) |
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* cait |
feels like it can't be 3.14 yet |
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cait |
time is moving so fast this year |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #125: SUCCESS in 3 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/125/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() |
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jenkins_koha |
* D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 8070: improve MARC preview display for RTL languages |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10016: force zero browser-side caching of SCO pages |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 10016: munge history in SCO to discourage resubmitting user login |
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jenkins_koha |
* Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record |
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jenkins_koha |
* Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8070 minor, P5 - low, ---, druthb, Pushed to Master , <pre> block produced by showmarc.pl really not good in RTL languages |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10016 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , SelfCheckTimeout not logging patron out |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match |
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bag |
yeah cait this last release seems to have gone so fast |
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cait |
the whole year really... super fast |
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cait |
and there is never a 'done' :) |
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bag |
heh nope never done :) |
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bag |
only released |
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cait |
yeah and then we start over :) |
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* druthb |
looks up from the puzzle she's workin' on, waves at bag, and goes back to her head-scratcher. |
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bag |
heya druthb |
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nengard |
do we have a date for kohacon14 yet? |
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oleonard |
If you don't have a date yet you can go with me nengard |
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nengard |
awww |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
But I meant dates for the conference - like what time of year :) |
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oleonard |
I think I remember tcohen saying early October like this year, but I don't know if it's official |
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nengard |
okey dkey |
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nengard |
dokey |
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nengard |
list emailed |
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nengard |
:) |
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cait |
bgkriegel++ again for putting the marc frameworks into pootle |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #226: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/226/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 11204: make pendingreserves use datatables.inc |
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jenkins_koha |
* Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.14.0 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11204 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , pendingreserves should use datatables.inc |
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trea |
anyone around that wants to talk about authorities? |
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cait |
trea: hi trea |
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cait |
not sure about the topic... but we could try? |
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trea |
hi cait - merge_authority.pl cronjob? does this need some steps to be taken before it will work successfully? |
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trea |
like running the linker perhaps? |
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cait |
oh :( |
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cait |
sorry, not sure about that |
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cait |
i think there might be a pref |
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cait |
have you looked for merge? |
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talljoy |
there is a syspref that talks about the merge cronjob for authorities |
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* oleonard |
asks jcamins whenever authorities are involved |
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cait |
dontmerge < |
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jcamins |
I don't use the merge_authority script. |
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jcamins |
Actually, I don't use authority merging at all in Koha, since I don't think it works. |
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talljoy |
trea what is their dontmerge authorities preference set to? |
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talljoy |
and i'm with jcamins, i use the linker instead |
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trea |
this is sounding more and more like terminology confusion then |
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talljoy |
lol |
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talljoy |
it does to the non-authoritarian |
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jcamins |
What do they want to do? |
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trea |
"dontmerge" is set to "Do" |
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talljoy |
jcamins they want to edit a bib and have it update the bib |
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talljoy |
sorry |
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trea |
so, that would make the cron unnecessary |
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talljoy |
edit an auth and have it update the bib |
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jcamins |
Okay. |
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jcamins |
In that case, you don't need to run the script because you have dontmerge set so it's not necessary. |
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talljoy |
right. |
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trea |
right, that's what i needed to know. thanks |
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trea |
jcamins++ |
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trea |
cait++ |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.4°C (9:30 PM CET on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
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francharb |
hey all |
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nengard |
@wunder 78741 |
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huginn |
nengard: The current temperature in East Cesar Chavez, Austin, Texas is 21.7°C (2:48 PM CST on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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francharb |
have you ever experienced trouble importing biblios with items lately? |
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francharb |
Biblios are staged correctly |
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francharb |
but not the items |
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francharb |
I´m using wizzyrea marc21 dataset |
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francharb |
there are items |
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francharb |
the set up seems ok |
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francharb |
but when I stage the records |
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francharb |
no more items |
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francharb |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
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wizzyrea |
default branches installed? |
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francharb |
yes |
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francharb |
I check koha to marc mapping, branches, item types, authorised values |
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francharb |
seems all good |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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wizzyrea |
clean database? |
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wizzyrea |
as in, empty? |
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francharb |
the items table is empty |
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francharb |
but not the biblio and biblioitems |
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cait |
francharb: hm what setting did you pick for items on the import screen? |
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francharb |
the default one |
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francharb |
check the items |
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francharb |
always import |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
and you got a b y? |
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cait |
are the items showing up as imported in your import summary table? |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
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francharb |
cait, nope |
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francharb |
a b y ? |
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wizzyrea |
mine says "985 records found and staged" |
20:53 |
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cait |
subfields :) |
20:53 |
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wizzyrea |
on master, with that dataset |
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wizzyrea |
*item records |
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francharb |
yes |
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francharb |
i have them |
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cait |
no spaces in your branchcode? |
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cait |
i had that happen. |
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francharb |
I installed 3.13.00.043 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1515: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1515/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 11204: make pendingreserves use datatables.inc |
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jenkins_koha |
* Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.14.0 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11204 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , pendingreserves should use datatables.inc |
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wizzyrea |
should be default branches |
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wizzyrea |
you wouldn't have the problem I had, which is duplicate barcodes |
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francharb |
wizzyrea, ¨should be default branches¨. what do you mean? |
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wizzyrea |
the data in that set uses the sample branches |
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wizzyrea |
with the sample branchcodes |
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francharb |
ok |
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francharb |
thats what I checked :) |
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francharb |
its a fresh install, from yesterday |
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cait |
hmm. |
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francharb |
I know, it´s a mystery to mee |
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francharb |
hehe |
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francharb |
tonight I´ll checked on my computer at home. I don´t remember having this problem last time I used this dataset |
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wizzyrea |
no, and I didn't have it just now on that same version |
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francharb |
ok |
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francharb |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
that does seem odd though. |
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wizzyrea |
(I haven't changed the dataset) |
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wizzyrea |
can I just rave a bit more about the tickboxes on the detail page |
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wizzyrea |
because that's so handy. |
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pianohacker |
hi guys and gals and overenthusiastic bots |
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wizzyrea |
hi pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
hey wizzyrea. How's it going? |
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wizzyrea |
it's a beautiful day outside. :) |
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pianohacker |
same here in colorado, randomly enough |
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pianohacker |
yay fall/spring |
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cait |
hi pianohacker :) |
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pianohacker |
hey cait. How are ya? |
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cait |
tired? :) |
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cait |
as always heh |
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pianohacker |
cait: I understand well, trust me... |
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pianohacker |
Yay >1 month of school! |
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francharb |
I´m going to check again the set up |
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francharb |
:) |
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francharb |
thank you cait wizzyrea! I´ll do another install |
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francharb |
if i cant find any solution |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
is there something in the logs? |
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cait |
an error message? |
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cait |
also the tables often have useful information about the matching process |
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cait |
the database tables |
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eythian |
hi wahanui |
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pianohacker |
wahanui: good afternoon sleepyhead |
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wahanui |
pianohacker: what? |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
:) |
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cait |
thx eythian |
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francharb |
hey cait, the only thing in the log is : [Tue Nov 19 17:21:05 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Tue Nov 19 17:21:05 2013] stage-marc-import.pl: Filehandle STDOUT reopened as FH only for input at /usr/lib/perl5/Template/Provider.pm line 964., referer: http://opaccommunity:8083/cgi-[…]ge-marc-import.pl |
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francharb |
dont think it´s related... |
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cait |
hm no that seems always to happen |
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francharb |
yes... |
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cait |
you culd look at import_items |
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cait |
it has a column for import_error |
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eythian |
wahanui: status |
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wahanui |
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francharb |
thanks cait, I´m going to check it rigth now! |
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cait |
i found it helpful when we were trying to find out which items had not been imported because of duplicate barcodes |
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cait |
not sure if it will help in your case |
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francharb |
ahah, now I can´t import the staged biblios... |
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cait |
oh? |
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francharb |
I just set up the testing database from the sign off wiki page |
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francharb |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
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francharb |
and well, there are a couple of biblios and items but I try to upload more |
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francharb |
it doesnt worlk |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: fix typo |
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francharb |
well well well |
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wizzyrea |
well I wouldn't probably do taht |
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wizzyrea |
I'd probably just create one with the web installer |
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wizzyrea |
bc that db is probably out of date. |
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francharb |
wizzyrea, probably a better idea |
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francharb |
I just realised that after setting it up |
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francharb |
ahah |
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francharb |
welcome to my 2nd day at my new job after a 4 monts pause |
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francharb |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: fix typo |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: fix typo |
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joels68 |
Greetings. We meet again, o wise ones. |
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pianohacker |
oh crap I think we forgot the wise ones today |
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pianohacker |
you'll have to deal with us instead... |
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joels68 |
:-D |
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cait |
we are the tired ones |
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joels68 |
Hi cait! |
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wahanui |
Hi cait! are you safely back in germany now? |
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cait |
yes wahanui, all is well |
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cait |
hi joels68:) |
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francharb |
time to stop! |
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francharb |
have a good night, day, afternoon! |
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francharb |
see ya |
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francharb |
and thanks for the help!! |
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joels68 |
Hey hey wizzyrea what's up? |
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wizzyrea |
presently? 2 floors, a roof, and the bluest sky you've ever seen. ;) |
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joels68 |
:P |
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joels68 |
Yeah, that paradise place... |
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rambutan |
so wizzyrea, have you been out fishin much? |
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rambutan |
If I lived there I'd be fishing every day. |
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wizzyrea |
I have this thing that I do 5 days a week... |
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wizzyrea |
kinda cramps my fishing style. |
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rambutan |
so sad |
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wizzyrea |
but actually, I've only been fishing once. |
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wizzyrea |
but spent many happy hours on the beach. |
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rambutan |
http://www.newzealand.com/us/fishing/ |
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joels68 |
wizzyrea, I could send you a dirty snowball from the midwest. |
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rambutan |
taupo. always wanted to eat taupo |
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wizzyrea |
a whole lake? |
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wizzyrea |
joels68: I'll take a pass on that I think. ;) |
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joels68 |
I just didn't want to get too comfortable down there and forget where ya came from.;-):-[ |
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rambutan |
oh, taupo is a lake, not a fish |
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rambutan |
ok, I'll go for tarakihi |
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wizzyrea |
that seems more sensible ;) |
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wizzyrea |
ah there are dirty snowballs here too. |
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wizzyrea |
just have to know where to find them. |
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joels68 |
Is there a MARC batch modify tool coming up? I can't remember. |
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wizzyrea |
there's a command line tool for that |
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wizzyrea |
but the GUI version needs a patron. |
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wizzyrea |
every. single. library. asks. that. |
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wizzyrea |
and none have stepped up to fund it. |
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wizzyrea |
so disappointing. |
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joels68 |
Command line will work for me. |
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joels68 |
I have a lib that wants to hide a collection in the opac. |
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wizzyrea |
I misspoke actually, modify isn't there yet, it desperately needs a patron. |
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wizzyrea |
but delete is. |
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wizzyrea |
as a command line tool |
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joels68 |
So I would need to put a 1 in 942 n for each record? |
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cait |
hmmmm |
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cait |
you could maybe reimport them |
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cait |
in 3.14 khall's amrc modificaton templates could do part of the batch job |
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cait |
but they only work on staging |
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wizzyrea |
I think we have overlay type stuff now. |
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cait |
oh |
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joels68 |
How much $ for that gui enhancement again? |
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cait |
joels68: do they want to hide the whole record? or just items of a collection and the record if the item is the only one? |
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wizzyrea |
idk, would probably require a spec. |
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cait |
i mean is there an item level thing you can recognize these records with? |
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wizzyrea |
bug 5725 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Batch modifications for Biblios |
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wizzyrea |
items often have ccodes. |
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wizzyrea |
bibs don't./ |
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joels68 |
the lib wants their items to be shadowed in opac but still visible on staff side. |
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wizzyrea |
just the items? |
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joels68 |
yep. |
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wizzyrea |
item = the bib too, or just the item |
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wizzyrea |
sorry I should have asked the first question. |
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wizzyrea |
the first question? |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
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wizzyrea |
but you've mostly answered it I won't make you repeat yourself |
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joels68 |
Just the item. They are moving their cassette tapes to storage so they don't want them seen in opac. |
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joels68 |
Lot's of reading to do for bug 5725.... |
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cait |
you want to take a look at opachiddenitems |
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cait |
it should be easy to do that without modifiying records :) |
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cait |
it's a system preference |
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joels68 |
found opachiddenitems.txt. I'll need to start YAMLing... |
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rambutan |
is there any way to ensure the integrity of a mysql db dump--that the dump is an exact representation of the data in the db? |
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eythian |
Not especially |
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eythian |
If you knew no changes were happening, you could do two dumps and compare them, but that's not likely to be that effective. |
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eythian |
realistically, the way to test backups is to do restores and make sure things still work. |
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cait |
good night all |
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eythian |
later cait |
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joels68 |
Good nite cait |
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pianohacker |
lazyweb: is there a link to the responsive demo? |
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joels68 |
responsive opac? |
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jcamins |
bootstrap.mykoha.co.nz, maybe? |
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jcamins |
bootstrap demo? |
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jcamins |
bootstrap? |
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wahanui |
an up to date demo of the Bootstrap OPAC can be found at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz - it's tracking from oleonard's branch bootstrap-opac on gitorious. Bug reports should be filed on bug 10309. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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joels68 |
http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/ |
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jcamins |
There ya go. |
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eythian |
TIL jcamins is the lazyweb. |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: Thanks much :) |
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wizzyrea |
forget bootstrap |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot bootstrap |
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wizzyrea |
bootstrap is running in a demo at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz. It tracks, reasonably closely, the current master version of Koha. |
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pianohacker |
heycatalogers: Preferred name for Library of Congress call numbers? |
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pianohacker |
Whatever egghead thought making two entirely different things that could reasonably be abbreviated LCCN... |
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eythian |
libconcalnums |
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pianohacker |
I approve. even better, LibConCalNums? Everyone loves SwankyCase! |
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wizzyrea |
that sounds like a librarian con, on call |
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wizzyrea |
my brain just can't do it. |
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