Time |
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Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
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wizzyrea |
yea no crust on that one. Unless you count the potatoes. |
00:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
:P |
00:00 |
|
* bag |
didn't really learn how to do roasted potatoes correctly until my last trip to see my english cousins |
00:01 |
|
bag |
I love them now - my grandma used to always make the best ones and Sonja and I could never repeat them |
00:02 |
|
bag |
but gingin's grandma was feeding her persimmons today and calling it mango.. funny thing was gingin was finally saying the word "mango" |
00:02 |
|
bag |
poor girl will always call persimmons - mangos now |
00:02 |
|
bag |
jcamins ^^^ should enjoy that one |
00:02 |
|
eythian |
I'm given to understand that they are really very different things |
00:02 |
|
jcamins |
lol |
00:02 |
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bag |
yup :) |
00:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
I can't even... *sob* it's so beautiful. |
00:11 |
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* wizzyrea |
ticks boxes and modifies and deletes items all afternoon |
00:12 |
|
dcook |
Question to package users... |
00:12 |
|
dcook |
How easy is it to go from a standard install to a package install? |
00:13 |
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eythian |
umm |
00:13 |
|
eythian |
it's quite possible |
00:13 |
|
dcook |
That's good to hear :) |
00:13 |
|
eythian |
Though probably best done by setting a package-driven instance on the machine and moving the data into it. |
00:14 |
|
dcook |
That's what I was thinking, but I was wondering if that might cause any issues |
00:14 |
|
dcook |
I've only done package installs, but I imagine it depends on where they've put their Koha files? |
00:15 |
|
eythian |
yeah, you could technically convert a regular install to a package install, but you'll always have issues with it I'd expect. |
00:18 |
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wizzyrea |
khall is long gone eh |
00:18 |
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bag |
yeah he's been out a few hours now |
00:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
is alright |
00:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
I think merely invoking his name helped my understanding of what his test plan was trying to tell me |
00:27 |
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00:27 |
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WaylonR |
hiya all |
00:27 |
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WaylonR |
hiya mtompset |
00:30 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, is there an uninstall option for Koha? |
00:30 |
|
dcook |
I've never noticed one.. |
00:30 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: rm and drop database. |
00:31 |
|
eythian |
koha-remove |
00:31 |
|
wahanui |
i guess koha-remove is for removing instances. |
00:31 |
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jcamins |
With packages, of course, koha-remove and apt-get purge |
00:31 |
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dcook |
So go around and make sure you've nuked all the koha dirs? |
00:31 |
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jcamins |
If you did a standard install, yeah, pretty much. |
00:32 |
|
dcook |
Then whatever apache config |
00:32 |
|
jcamins |
Right, that's one of the things you're rm'ing. |
00:32 |
|
dcook |
There's no system level Koha user with a standard install, right? |
00:32 |
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jcamins |
If you created one there is. |
00:32 |
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jcamins |
But I'd ask myself why I was doing this, and probably decide this was unnecessary. |
00:33 |
|
dcook |
Switching from standard to packages |
00:33 |
|
dcook |
(Or just in general deciding you don't want Koha anymore) |
00:34 |
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eythian |
in general, if you're repurposing a server, you'd reinstall everything anyway |
00:35 |
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jcamins |
That's what I mean. I'd usually just reinstall the OS. |
00:37 |
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dcook |
Interesting. That would be my default position as well, but I figured that might be a bit over and beyond what people would generally do. |
00:38 |
|
jcamins |
If you're running a serious server, paranoia should be the order of the day. |
00:38 |
|
dcook |
I suspected that I was in the right line of work...;) |
00:39 |
|
dcook |
Hmm. Good to know. |
00:40 |
|
dcook |
Mind you, eythian, when you say in general...in general for vendors or in general for most folk? |
00:40 |
|
dcook |
Surely people must run servers of their own that run multiple systems. |
00:40 |
|
dcook |
Or would a smart sysadmin put every system on its own VM? |
00:40 |
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eythian |
if something is important enough to have a server devoted to it, you should do it right |
00:40 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
00:41 |
|
eythian |
even the little self-hosting councils we work with have a system with a bunch of VMs |
00:41 |
|
eythian |
it's pretty much the best practice way these days |
00:41 |
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dcook |
It certainly seems the most common |
00:41 |
|
dcook |
Oh, looks like the internet is going down... |
00:41 |
|
dcook |
If I cut out, thanks for the help and advice :) |
00:42 |
|
dcook |
I'll have to inquire with the folks I might be helping |
00:42 |
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jcamins |
dcook: for a personal server, I wouldn't worry about uninstalling unless I was running out of space. In which case I would apply rm judiciously. |
00:44 |
|
dcook |
Although you'd only need to do so for programs that you installed from source, yes? |
00:44 |
|
dcook |
As packages seem pretty easy to remove overall |
00:44 |
|
dcook |
In this case, I'm just wondering about any potential conflicts |
00:45 |
|
dcook |
Like trying to install the packages but finding outdated Koha files already there and then things exploding |
00:46 |
|
eythian |
the packages and a tarball install some things to the same location, so there is a small risk of something going a bit weird. |
00:47 |
|
dcook |
Exactly my fear |
00:48 |
|
dcook |
I suppose I could use the koha-install-log as a wayfinder.. |
00:52 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, I swear there used to be a page that said where the packages put files... |
00:53 |
|
dcook |
Ahh |
00:53 |
|
eythian |
apt-file list koha-common |
00:54 |
|
dcook |
debian / koha-common.README.Debian is the one I was thinking of |
00:54 |
|
dcook |
But I like your way much better |
00:55 |
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eythian |
also debian/koha-common.dirs and what not in there |
00:55 |
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00:57 |
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dcook |
Apparently I don't have the apt-file command.. |
00:58 |
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wizzyrea |
apt file, no dash? |
00:58 |
|
dcook |
Looks like it has a dash |
00:59 |
|
jcamins |
apt-get install apt-file? |
00:59 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: That's my next thought, but I think it's supposed to just be a command in apt O_o |
01:00 |
|
jcamins |
apt-file? No it's not. |
01:00 |
|
dcook |
I guess it does have its own package, huh |
01:00 |
|
jcamins |
You're thinking of... |
01:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
yeesh, what OS? |
01:00 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: Debian |
01:00 |
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01:00 |
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jcamins |
dpkg -c |
01:00 |
|
jcamins |
But dpkg -c requires you to have the deb package file. |
01:01 |
|
jcamins |
Or you're thinking of apt-cache show -f, which I believe requires you to have the package installed. |
01:04 |
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eythian |
apt-file is its own thing because it's not something that end users generally need, and it also has to maintain an extra database of all package info |
01:05 |
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01:06 |
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dcook |
Hmm, laptop is not having a good day |
01:06 |
|
dcook |
Well, thanks in any case :) |
01:14 |
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02:00 |
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mtompset |
WaylonR: I'm working up my listed of things I commented on, so I'll make it back to 9055 eventually. |
02:00 |
|
mtompset |
dpk: You here? |
02:25 |
|
WaylonR |
mtompset, cool. |
02:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
errr |
02:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
with the syspref UseCourseReserves set to "don't use" should course reserves be showing up in the More menu? |
02:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
the syspref does seem to correctly hide it from the OPAC |
03:01 |
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03:01 |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell khall question: with the syspref UseCourseReserves set to "don't use" should course reserves be showing up in the More menu? |
03:01 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
03:47 |
|
mtompset |
wizzyrea: Is that related to a bug? |
03:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
it is, if it's not intended ;) |
03:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
but no, not a formal bug, yet. |
03:52 |
|
eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
03:52 |
|
huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
04:09 |
|
bag |
evening |
04:09 |
|
bag |
@wunder 93102 |
04:09 |
|
huginn |
bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 10.9°C (8:09 PM PST on November 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
04:10 |
|
eythian |
why do people keep trying to port koha to windows? It just seems like a bad idea. |
04:10 |
|
mtompset |
eythian: Because a large percentage of computers run windows by default when you purchase them. |
04:10 |
|
mtompset |
And being able to use koha on a default computer is a nice thing. |
04:11 |
|
eythian |
It's not a server-quality operating system, unless you pay extra. |
04:12 |
|
eythian |
also, I'd expect you'd spend more time making things work that are a bit broken than you would spend installing and learning linux. |
04:12 |
|
bag |
I'm with eythian on this -- WHY |
04:12 |
|
mtompset |
I'll give you that, but you should already know that if some corners can be cut, people will cut them. |
04:12 |
|
eythian |
it certainly sounds like the wrong corner to cut |
04:12 |
|
eythian |
you're also totally out of the update stream and running an unsupported system |
04:13 |
|
mtompset |
That is true. And yes... but people are afraid of learning curves. |
04:13 |
|
mtompset |
Fear makes people do stupid things. |
04:14 |
|
bag |
ah but eythian that's from the Secretary General |
04:14 |
|
eythian |
bag: oh, so it is! |
04:14 |
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mtompset |
Where are you reading this?! |
04:14 |
|
eythian |
email |
04:14 |
|
mtompset |
oh my! |
04:14 |
|
eythian |
koha-devel |
04:14 |
|
wahanui |
koha-devel is most likely the best koha list there is (Hey, Im a bot, im biased) and can be found at http://lists.koha-community.or[…]stinfo/koha-devel |
04:15 |
|
bag |
I'd like a fun signature like that |
04:15 |
|
bag |
from bag - jedi wannabe |
04:16 |
|
* bag |
waves hand and eythian accepts |
04:16 |
|
eythian |
heh |
04:17 |
|
bag |
DAMN it works!!! |
04:17 |
|
* bag |
quickly takes a screenshot |
04:34 |
|
bag |
nice response eythian |
04:34 |
|
bag |
eythian++ |
04:34 |
|
bag |
heya mtompset I forget were are you located? |
04:35 |
|
mtompset |
currently Canada. |
04:38 |
|
bag |
ah |
04:38 |
|
mtompset |
Yourself, bag? |
04:39 |
|
mtompset |
I'm in Ontario. |
04:39 |
|
bag |
Santa Barbara CA |
04:39 |
|
bag |
otherwise paradise :P |
04:39 |
|
bag |
heh |
04:43 |
|
mtompset |
gangster or amish? ;) |
04:45 |
|
dcook |
bag: You have some strange weather though |
04:45 |
|
dcook |
Wasn't it nearly 20 degrees higher just the other day |
04:45 |
|
bag |
yeah that was an odd evening |
04:45 |
|
bag |
tonight is a little more normal |
04:48 |
|
bag |
but it was still close to 20 during the day - which is it most days of the year |
04:52 |
|
dcook |
Does sound rather nice :) |
05:04 |
|
dcook |
Can someone else take a look at the DelItem sub in Items.pm? |
05:05 |
|
dcook |
Specifically line 626 in master |
05:05 |
|
dcook |
It looks like we're trying to set a 'marc' column in the 'deleteditems' table |
05:09 |
|
dcook |
The code looks the same in 3.8 and we're getting software errors |
05:09 |
|
dcook |
I don't know how that could've ever worked though O_o |
05:09 |
|
mtompset |
looking, dcook. |
05:09 |
|
dcook |
Thanks, mtompset :) |
05:09 |
|
bag |
hmm dcook give me like 5 minutes and I can look also |
05:10 |
|
mtompset |
I thought when you deleted an item, it was to transfer from the items table into the deleted items table. |
05:10 |
|
dcook |
Sweet. Sure thing, bag. |
05:10 |
|
bag |
just one more thing to get done and then I'm all yours |
05:10 |
|
dcook |
Agreed, mtompset |
05:10 |
|
dcook |
_koha_delete_item transfers the row from the items table to the deleted items table then removes the row from the items table |
05:11 |
|
dcook |
After that though... |
05:12 |
|
dcook |
We reindex Zebra with the bib record (without any items attached), then try to put marc into the deleteditems table O_o |
05:12 |
|
mtompset |
Actually, that's the thing I find weird. |
05:12 |
|
mtompset |
Does the GetMarcBiblio require the item to still be there? |
05:13 |
|
dcook |
GetMarcBiblio just gets the Marcxml |
05:13 |
|
dcook |
Although it takes an optional parameter to add in the items to that Marcxml record |
05:14 |
|
dcook |
Which is missing in this case |
05:14 |
|
mtompset |
But _koha_delete_item shouldn't affect the MarcXML field. |
05:14 |
|
dcook |
No, it wouldn't |
05:14 |
|
mtompset |
So, I guess setting the marc=? means it is trying to tie back to the original MARC. |
05:14 |
|
dcook |
But in Zebra we use a combination of the marcxml bib record and the items (which we build into xml that we integrate into that marcxml) |
05:15 |
|
mtompset |
Hmmm... if the MARCXML field isn't updated when you delete, then your indexing will break. |
05:15 |
|
dcook |
It would appear that way to me |
05:15 |
|
mtompset |
Is that what you are getting at, dcook? |
05:17 |
|
dcook |
Also, I have someone who is getting fatal software errors |
05:17 |
|
dcook |
Which seems odd, as I figure someone would've noticed those before.. |
05:17 |
|
* mtompset |
grumbles about the evils of the indexing mechanisms. :) |
05:20 |
|
bag |
dcook: is this on master? |
05:20 |
|
bag |
back |
05:22 |
|
dcook |
Yep |
05:23 |
|
dcook |
Ahhh, interesting. I see a deleteditems table with a marc column in it |
05:23 |
|
dcook |
bag: Sorry, the error isn't |
05:23 |
|
dcook |
The error is on 3.8 |
05:23 |
|
dcook |
But the code is the same as master |
05:23 |
|
dcook |
(3.8.0 to be exact) |
05:23 |
|
bag |
according to schema marc is unused in Koha |
05:24 |
|
bag |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]deleteditems.html |
05:24 |
|
dcook |
Intriguing. Tis lies! |
05:24 |
|
mtompset |
It is lies. |
05:25 |
|
mtompset |
Code says otherwise. |
05:25 |
|
mtompset |
Code never lies. |
05:25 |
|
bag |
dcook: the only thing that I can think of is that - this is left over code from when items where in the marc-record |
05:25 |
|
bag |
ie. before 3.4 when we started stripping out the 952's (well that's MARC21) |
05:25 |
|
dcook |
bag: Agreed |
05:26 |
|
bag |
so since the items aren't in marcformat anymore it doesn't cause a problem |
05:26 |
|
bag |
and most likely your error is from something else |
05:26 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, the error looks like something else |
05:26 |
|
dcook |
Well, sort of |
05:26 |
|
bag |
so what exactly is the error? |
05:26 |
|
dcook |
If you look in your deleteditems table, you show see a 'marc' column |
05:26 |
|
bag |
you may have posted it early and I missed it |
05:27 |
|
bag |
show/should ? |
05:27 |
|
dcook |
Ah yes, should ;) |
05:27 |
|
bag |
ok one sec - let me bring up a server |
05:27 |
|
dcook |
In my case, it appears that is missing from this person's database which is distinctly odd |
05:27 |
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dcook |
So the software error is just my problem (despite being an outdated bit of code) |
05:28 |
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dcook |
I think it likely that the indexing isn't working properly though |
05:28 |
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bag |
poop my dev server is not really used much - but that's an empty set for me |
05:29 |
|
bag |
ah dcook just alter that table then |
05:29 |
|
bag |
ah indexing is a different problem |
05:29 |
|
bag |
and 3.8 I think there was an issue with indexing IIRC |
05:29 |
|
bag |
also are you using DOM or GRS1 |
05:30 |
|
bag |
most likely it sounds like you should just do a full reindes... what's the size of the db # of recors |
05:30 |
|
bag |
records |
05:30 |
|
* bag |
types too fast when he's excited |
05:33 |
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* bag |
scared away dcook :( |
05:33 |
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bag |
heh |
05:34 |
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dcook |
Sorry, was chatting to the boss ;) |
05:34 |
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mtompset |
is the alphabetical order in systempreference supposed to be case sensitive? |
05:34 |
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dcook |
bag: Yeah, I'm just going to alter the table to fix the software error |
05:35 |
|
bag |
cool |
05:35 |
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bag |
mtompset: I have no idea |
05:35 |
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dcook |
As for the indexing, the filter wouldn't matter. It's the special update |
05:35 |
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dcook |
I might take a little look to see if it does break the indexed record.. |
05:35 |
|
dcook |
Well, maybe not break so much as corrupt |
05:36 |
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bag |
a full reindex would clear any special updates :) |
05:36 |
|
dcook |
oh brb |
05:38 |
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bag |
hmm the signed off queue isn't too bad right now - I'm seeing 55 and only 34 bugs - pretty awesome job #koha |
05:38 |
|
* bag |
looks to see if there is a good bug to QA tonight |
05:41 |
|
bag |
hmm bug 11112 |
05:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11112 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Koha::Calendar->new loads all holidays |
05:42 |
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mtompset |
bug 11242? |
05:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11242 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , fix opac-MARCdetail.pl bizarre ordering of data and noisy warnings |
05:44 |
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bag |
anything with speed and I'm all about testing (as long as it's in my skill set) :P |
05:44 |
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bag |
oh mtompset I'll look at that one next |
05:45 |
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mtompset |
I figure it was small and simple enough. :) |
05:45 |
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bag |
cool give me 20 minutes and I'm on it |
05:45 |
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mtompset |
Anything to quiet the floody error logs. :) |
05:46 |
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bag |
usually I'm about 20 minutes per patch :) |
05:46 |
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mtompset |
Depends on the patch size. ;) |
05:47 |
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bag |
bigger they are add onto 20 minutes then :D |
05:47 |
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mtompset |
Another small, remove floodiness type bug is bug 11183. :) |
05:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11183 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Warnings in opac |
05:54 |
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dcook |
back |
05:54 |
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dcook |
thanks bag and mtompset for looking into that issue before with me :) |
06:13 |
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mtompset |
not a problem. |
06:13 |
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bag |
ok I've hit my tired point |
06:13 |
|
bag |
zzzzzzzzzz |
06:17 |
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06:22 |
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mtompset |
As have I, bag. |
06:22 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha cait WaylonR bag dcook etc. :) |
06:38 |
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* cait |
waves sleepily |
06:38 |
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dcook |
hey ya cait :) |
06:38 |
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* dcook |
says pretending not to be at the office |
06:39 |
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cait |
jej |
06:39 |
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cait |
heh even |
06:39 |
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dcook |
Oh my, you are tired! |
06:40 |
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dcook |
Cheap tuesday cinema though, so I'm out! |
06:40 |
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dcook |
Have a good day, cait :) |
06:40 |
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dcook |
(And everyone else!) |
06:40 |
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cait |
thx |
06:42 |
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rangi |
evening |
06:43 |
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rangi |
@later tell tcohen yeah squashing them is probably the easiest/best |
06:43 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
07:38 |
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wahanui |
hi, reiveune |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p et reiveune |
07:39 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
07:39 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder konstanz |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.2°C (8:35 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
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reiveune |
salut magnuse , cait, kathryn , rangi |
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cait |
hi reiveune |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
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cait |
good morning paul_p |
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cait |
ok, have to run, bye |
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samueld |
hi everybody |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
salut, alex_a |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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cait |
Joubu: thx for the seasons :) does the automatic locale detection work for you? it didn't for me butit's a bit hard to test |
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Joubu |
no, it does not work |
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cait |
ah, not good |
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cait |
i was hoping i just missed changing something - i couldn't test with french |
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cait |
Joubu: bug 11265 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11265 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problems with locale saving/editing on serial subscriptions |
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Hi! Koha community, I'm trying out this UPDATE items SET more_subfields_xml = UpdateXML(more_subfields_xml, '//datafield[@tag="952"]/subfield[@code="i"]/text()', 'MR_00-00032-(PO); MD_2001-04-08') where barcode = '27490' so I can update my items field. |
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schnydszch |
this in mysql. would it be possible? |
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rangi |
hmm if they come back, the answer is no |
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rangi |
post 3.4 |
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magnuse |
oh rangi, there was something i wanted to ask you |
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magnuse |
the opl people have trouble cloning from git.koha-community.org, because of firewall issues |
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magnuse |
do you think it would be doable to enable cloning over http? |
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schnydszch |
hmm. how do i do it correctly? is there a way? |
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rangi |
schnydszch: actually i was wrong, 952i isnt mapped, so yes that should work |
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schnydszch |
I have 952i set actually |
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rangi |
magnuse: they can clone from the mirror http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git |
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cait |
it's mapped in latre versions only i think |
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rangi |
schnydszch: then you just change the column it's mapped to |
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schnydszch |
it's institutional |
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schnydszch |
but i get 0 row(s) affected. |
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rangi |
more_subfields_xml is only for those ones that are not mapped to an actual column in items |
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magnuse |
rangi: thanks, i think that is what they are doing already |
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rangi |
schnydszch: and you are sure there is data in that column? |
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schnydszch |
hmm no data |
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schnydszch |
how to do it if it has no data? |
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rangi |
well did you just recently map it? |
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rangi |
and is that data in more_subfields_xml instead? |
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schnydszch |
map meaning added in MARC Bibliographic Frameworks? |
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schnydszch |
I added it a long long time ago |
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schnydszch |
I think it's not in more_subfield_xml since, it was leave blank |
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rangi |
and its not in the column you mapped it to? |
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schnydszch |
we haven't implemented adding data in 951i yet |
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schnydszch |
952i |
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schnydszch |
For this particularly bibliographic record, there is no data in 952i yet. |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
so update items set whatevercolumn = 'value' where barcode = 'something' |
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schnydszch |
I added the subfields a long long time ago |
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schnydszch |
yep but i'm updating xml data in more_subfields_xml :) |
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rangi |
why? |
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rangi |
if you mapped it to a column |
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rangi |
then you dont do that |
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rangi |
and you said you mapped it to a column |
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rangi |
mapped meaning linking it to a column in the items table |
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* rangi |
goes to sleep |
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schnydszch |
linking in the Advance constraints? I leave it blank |
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tcohen |
morning |
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cait |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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tcohen |
where's kf? |
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wahanui |
kf is probably cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
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cait |
kf got kidnapped |
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magnuse |
good thing we have cait as a backup! |
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cait |
tcohen: someone else is using the nick i think |
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cait |
yeah... so i lost |
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tcohen |
cait: maybe my notebook :-D |
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Hi #koha |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: "Tag 50% is not a valid tag", does it sound familiar |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gmcharlt: I get this when running prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/264 |
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tcohen |
(btw: I wrapped a new_from_xml call from _Zconn_event in an eval block) |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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oleonard |
Hi gaetan_B |
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cait |
hi oleonard and gaetan_B :) |
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gaetan_B |
hi cait, hi oleonard :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, gaetan_B oleonard cait maximep rambutan. :) |
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rambutan |
morning |
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cait |
hi mtompset and rambutan |
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rambutan |
morning cait |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug11221' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]102e6269a59bcfd58> / Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e71f7239eaf50b25> / Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k |
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jenkins_koha |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: the warning is fine; please read the commit log for t/db_depedendent/Search.t regarding bug 10684 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10684 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Koha search dies on undecodable records |
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tcohen |
i've attached a small followup for bug 11096 so the tests pass |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra |
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paul123 |
hello |
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paul123 |
I am am a newbie at Koha |
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paul123 |
i've manage to setup Koha 3.12 |
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oleonard |
Hi paul123 |
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cait |
hi paul |
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cait |
paul123: |
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paul123 |
now, I am importing data into Koha via Stage import |
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paul123 |
hi guys |
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paul123 |
my records (books) do not have barcode |
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paul123 |
so my question is, is it possible to autogenerate barcode for these imported records? |
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oleonard |
I don't think you can do that on import paul123 |
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paul123 |
hmm |
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cait |
paul123: I thin oleonard is right there |
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cait |
you will have to edit them later - or you could manipulate them on sql level, but then you have to make sure you reindex |
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cait |
reindex = rebuild your search index |
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paul123 |
i've been using MarcEdit to parse my records from a txt file |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug8854' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3cd70649d60a568d8> / bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6e3d21f5e01dc364> |
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paul123 |
is there a tool that I can use autogenerate barcodes for these 36,000 records before staging import? |
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you mean the barcodes aren't already in there? |
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oleonard |
paul123: I too use MarcEdit to perform batch edits before importing, but I'm not aware of a feature which will generate barcodes |
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ashimema |
anyone here happen to have pazpar working and want to test a bug? |
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oleonard |
ashimema: I wonder if any of the changes to that template over the last few years have actually been tested |
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ashimema |
I thought that.. but it's a shame that my patch is being blocked because of it |
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ashimema |
Going through the code on that page, I can't see that it's been updated in many years for the other fixes that have gone in elsewhere. |
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ashimema |
oleonard: Did you test it for bootstrap..? |
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oleonard |
Nope :P |
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ashimema |
haha.. then your right.. I don't thik anyone has tested it in years.. |
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cait |
ashimema: remind me a bit later? i think that is not really actively used |
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cait |
but have to run out now |
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cait |
bye all |
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ashimema |
Maybe I can get pianohacker to try it out.. I know he's got pazpar running at least as he uses it for his overdirve stuff |
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francharb |
good morning all |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug11269' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e6b3c2adc3d8c2737> / Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7fbbf66393f8a2c69> |
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paul_p |
welcome back francharb !!! |
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paul_p |
francharb (j'ai pas eu le temps de te saluer sur notre channel BibLibre, tu es passé trop vite ;-) ) |
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jcamins |
francharb: morning? Did you move to Canada? |
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bag |
morning |
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wahanui |
morning is a state of cat |
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* ebegin |
is proud to announce that francharb (previously from BibLibre) is now located in Montreal and working for inLibro |
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francharb |
yes jcamins |
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wahanui |
jcamins is very, very irascible. |
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bag |
coolness :) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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jcamins |
Awesome! Welcome to this side of the Atlantic! |
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francharb |
I moved a couple of month ago |
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francharb |
late june |
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druthb |
hi, francharb! :) |
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francharb |
and here I am, back in the game ;) |
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francharb |
thank you jcamins! |
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francharb |
hi druthb |
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francharb |
whats up in texas? |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #224: UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/224/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 11221: ensure that SQLHelper uses NULL rather than 0000-00-00 as default date value |
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* Chris Cormack: Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , New patrons are created with invalid dateofbirth value if field is left empty |
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druthb |
The temperature, for one thing, francharb. Unseasonably warm for this time of year. |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 19.4°C (10:53 AM CST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #225 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #223 4 days 1 hr ago) |
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gmcharlt |
francharb++ |
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druthb |
And other than that, work work work… :) |
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francharb |
thank you gmcharlt |
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francharb |
@wunder montreal |
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huginn |
francharb: Error: No such location could be found. |
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francharb |
ahah |
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ebegin |
@wunder montreal quebec |
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druthb |
brr |
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* paul_p |
is very happy to see francharb back ! really ! |
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francharb |
anyway, it's colder here than in houston, for sure! |
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* paul_p |
think ebegin had a good idea hiring francharb. And hope francharb had negociated a good income, because he's worth it ;-) |
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paul_p |
(and everybody will be happy at the end) |
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francharb |
:) |
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bag |
:) |
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bag |
@wunder 93102 |
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bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 14.3°C (8:55 AM PST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
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francharb |
I'm glad being back here! |
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francharb |
for now, I need to set up my laptop! |
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francharb |
see ya |
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tcohen |
paul_p: you have a couple of pictures in your phone i'd like to see :-D |
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* cait |
waves |
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* ashimema |
waves |
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paul_p |
tcohen you're right. could you drop me a mail so I don't forget ? |
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tcohen |
paul_p: of course. how are u doing? |
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paul_p |
not sure, but I'll probably put them on my piwigo gallery |
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druthb |
hi, cait! :) |
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cait |
hi druthb :) |
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cait |
lovely photo on fb :) |
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druthb |
thanx! :) |
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druthb |
The boss handed out holiday presents at the banquet last night. AAA membership, chocolates, and movie tickets. :) |
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cait |
aaa? |
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druthb |
automobile service club. |
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cait |
oh |
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druthb |
roadside service, trip planning, some other discounts. |
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cait |
what did you get? |
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cait |
all of that? :) |
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druthb |
Same as everyone else—all three. |
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cait |
very cool :) |
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gmcharlt |
@arewethereyet |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Error: The command "arewethereyet" is available in the Assorted and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "arewethereyet". |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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cait |
hi gmcharlt :) |
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druthb |
yep. There are 190 employees now—I estimate they spent nearly $20K on those presents this year. The for-profit world is a very different pace. |
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cait |
sounds like it |
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wahanui |
sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;) |
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paul_p |
tcohen http://famillepoulain.piwigo.c[…]con13_reno_nevada |
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cait |
we have a christmas party, but everyone pays for their food :) |
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gmcharlt |
@arewethereyet |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 2 days |
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cait |
gmcharlt: getting impatient? :) |
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druthb |
We had open bar cocktail hour, then dinner. The filet mignon was just wonderful. :) |
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tcohen |
paul_p++ |
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gmcharlt |
paul_p++ |
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paul_p |
for the record = piwigo is an OpenSource project, managed by Pierrick Le Gall, that oldtimers of the Koha community probably remember ;-) |
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cait |
nice photos :) |
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tcohen |
great photos! |
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cait |
tcohen: oh, you had yours on google+ right? |
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druthb |
great photos, and a great-looking gallery—I've been using Gallery3, and I dislike it a lot. |
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druthb |
Might be migration time. |
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cait |
i wanted to download a few to show my family over the holidays |
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tcohen |
cait: yes |
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cait |
found thenm :) |
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cait |
i like the photo with tcohen and the pumpkin ;) |
17:38 |
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tcohen |
heh |
17:40 |
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cait |
ok, i have paul_p and tcohen - the rest is on flickr? :) |
17:41 |
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druthb |
I haven't got all mine up yet, but they'll be on gallery.hiruthie.net. |
17:41 |
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druthb |
s/all/any of/ |
17:43 |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
17:43 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #225: FIXED in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/225/ |
17:43 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters |
17:43 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() |
17:43 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , invoice filters don't all work |
17:43 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search |
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oleonard |
That reminds me... I started posting photos to flickr and then didn't finish... |
18:02 |
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tcohen |
:-D |
18:02 |
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tcohen |
oleonard++ # more photos |
18:04 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #124 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
18:06 |
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mtompset |
tcohen: DOH! I didn't report it. Thanks for reporting and fixing it. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1512: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1512/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 11221: ensure that SQLHelper uses NULL rather than 0000-00-00 as default date value |
18:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates |
18:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string |
18:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , New patrons are created with invalid dateofbirth value if field is left empty |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1513 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1511 3 days 22 hr ago) |
19:02 |
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mtompset |
Wow... Koha Pi is coming. |
19:02 |
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mtompset |
1 more day. |
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19:03 |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
19:03 |
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jcamins |
rambutan: random non-Koha question for you: who do you permit to use the 3d printer? |
19:05 |
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jcamins |
The question of whether kids have access to 3d printers came up in a conversation. |
19:05 |
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rambutan |
We havn't had time to finish building it, but when we do, after a short test phase where we figure out how to use it ourselves.... |
19:05 |
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rambutan |
we will let just about any patron use it, including kids. |
19:05 |
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cait |
yay! |
19:06 |
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jcamins |
Nice! |
19:06 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
19:06 |
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rambutan |
The way we envision it working is that they (all them "thays") will download/created the images, put it on an SD card, put that in the printer, and we help them print it out |
19:07 |
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mtompset |
Does cpanm have the same search path and upgrading uses that installing libraries using cpan does? |
19:07 |
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* oleonard |
needs to find somewhere to print one of these http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:43874 |
19:07 |
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mtompset |
(as compared to installing from repository libraries) |
19:07 |
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rambutan |
We will, certainly in the beginning anyway, have some physical control over the printer itself, to keep it safe from younger patrons, but it's not like we'll have it under wraps either. |
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rangi |
morning |
19:08 |
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cait |
morning rangi |
19:08 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, rangi. :) |
19:09 |
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mtompset |
oleonard: You have a busted pen that needs that part? |
19:09 |
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oleonard |
yeah, stupid tiny piece of plastic |
19:11 |
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jcamins |
A friend of mine is probably buying a 3d printer. I'll have him make you one. |
19:11 |
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jcamins |
Remind me. |
19:11 |
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rangi |
we have one in the chch office, we used to have a reprap here in the wellington office too |
19:12 |
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oleonard |
Cool, thanks. Really I should poke around here at the university, someone's sure to have one eh? |
19:12 |
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rangi |
bound to |
19:13 |
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janPasi |
mulla on \<janp[pa].* |
19:13 |
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janPasi |
äh |
19:13 |
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janPasi |
wrong channel |
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oleonard |
Well, there I go: http://www.ohio.edu/research/c[…]ons/3dprinter.cfm |
19:15 |
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rambutan |
we have the mendelmax 2, if anybody cares. http://www.makerstoolworks.com Open hardware (like open source software), |
19:16 |
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rambutan |
All right, ya'll got me woked up. |
19:16 |
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rambutan |
So I think it's great that Koha has an open source chat channel where you can actually talk to the coders--the real producers of the software, and especially... |
19:17 |
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rambutan |
some of the original people like Chris. I just think thats amazing. That wouldn't happen with |
19:18 |
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rangi |
i doubt any of the original coders are left there |
19:18 |
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rangi |
been replaced with salespeople |
19:18 |
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cait |
rambutan: now you are making him feel old again *hides* |
19:19 |
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rangi |
heh |
19:19 |
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rambutan |
and the same thing is happening with 3d printers--it's still a very new technology, but I can get on freenode - #reprap and talk to sound and Josef Prusa and all the original |
19:19 |
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rambutan |
engineers. |
19:19 |
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rambutan |
someday that will probably go away, although quite happily it hasn't happened to koha yet. |
19:21 |
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rangi |
vik olliver used to work for catalyst |
19:21 |
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rangi |
if you are chatting with him, tell him i say hi :) |
19:22 |
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rambutan |
don't know him by that nick |
19:23 |
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rangi |
http://reprap.org/wiki/User:VikOlliver |
19:25 |
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rambutan |
"sound" is the nick of an Italian programer that produces http://slic3r.org/ |
19:28 |
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rambutan |
I see Vik Olliver does have a nick on #reprap, but he's not currently logged on. |
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mtompset |
since I have a window 8.1 machine. I'm trying something crazy... installing Koha... let's see what horrible problems I encounter using strawberry perl. :) |
19:37 |
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rambutan |
Josef Prusa - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viz4Ijahddg |
19:39 |
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cait |
brb |
19:39 |
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rangi |
mtompset: why dont you try the bundle just to see if it even works |
19:39 |
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rangi |
it should be strawberry perl |
19:40 |
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mtompset |
the one from pakistan? |
19:40 |
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rambutan |
sound - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA6jmg_zcQo |
19:40 |
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rangi |
yep |
19:40 |
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mtompset |
They didn't give a link to it. |
19:40 |
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mtompset |
I went to the web page, and couldn't find it. |
19:40 |
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rangi |
ah maybe ask for one ;) that would seem like a useful thing to try |
19:44 |
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mtompset |
Okay... doing that. |
19:44 |
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mtompset |
In the mean time. Trying for myself. :) |
19:47 |
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paul123 |
hi |
19:47 |
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wahanui |
hi, paul123 |
19:47 |
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paul123 |
i have a question about displaying the call number in Koha |
19:47 |
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paul123 |
more specifically in OPAC |
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paul123 |
I am managing a library that uses a custom call/classification number |
19:48 |
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paul123 |
so I tagged it with the 084a tag |
19:48 |
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paul123 |
however, when I search for a book in OPAC it doesn't display the call number |
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paul123 |
how can I make it show and indicate that a book is available |
19:49 |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
19:50 |
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rangi |
id tag it at the item level |
19:51 |
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paul123 |
can you tell me how I can do that? |
19:51 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah it sounds like you want to show the call number of the item, not the bib |
19:51 |
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rangi |
952t |
19:51 |
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rangi |
sorry nope |
19:51 |
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rangi |
952o |
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rangi |
and then in 952$2 put your classification scheme |
19:54 |
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paul123 |
so you're saying, I should tag my records with 952... at the MARCEdit stage? |
19:54 |
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* wizzyrea |
had never looked at the classification sources page - nifty! |
19:55 |
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rangi |
paul123: 952 is for items, you should already have 952 fields for any biblio records taht you actually have copies of |
19:56 |
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rangi |
things cant be available, if you dont have items attached |
19:56 |
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rangi |
(unless they are electronic of course, but even then its better to make an item for them) |
19:57 |
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mtompset |
strangely... this is going better than I recall last time. |
19:58 |
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paul123 |
hmm, when I created my custom Bibli Framework for Books, I didn't create that tag |
19:58 |
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mtompset |
with the -b -r flags added to koha_perl_deps.pl, and strawberry perl having cpanm installed by default. All is going well so far. |
19:58 |
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cait |
paul_p: hm be careful with creating your own, advice is to base on default and only hide fields you don't need |
19:59 |
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cait |
because there are some fields koha needs |
19:59 |
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cait |
oh |
19:59 |
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cait |
paul123: |
19:59 |
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cait |
too many pauls :) |
19:59 |
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paul123 |
hehe |
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paul123 |
hmm, I was tired of hiding too many tags just for a simple book, so I created a smaller framework to import them |
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paul123 |
I only need 15 fields |
20:04 |
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paul123 |
so are you saying, I should reimport my records into Koha with the 952 field set? |
20:04 |
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cait |
you should define the fields in the framewrk first |
20:04 |
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rangi |
do you want items? |
20:04 |
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cait |
and also some others |
20:05 |
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rangi |
cos if you want to ever be able to circulate, you need those |
20:05 |
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cait |
and run the marc frameworks test |
20:05 |
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paul123 |
actually, my custom framework has the field 952 defined |
20:05 |
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paul123 |
I just didn't attach any data to it in my records |
20:06 |
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paul123 |
ok, I just ran the Framework Test |
20:06 |
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paul123 |
and got one error |
20:06 |
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paul123 |
item fields ALL items fields MUST : |
20:06 |
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paul123 |
be mapped to the same tag, |
20:06 |
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paul123 |
and they must all be in the 10 (items) tab |
20:08 |
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paul123 |
and this is my custom Framework for Books |
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paul123 |
TagLibRepeatableMandatory |
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paul123 |
20ISBNYesNo |
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paul123 |
24BARCODENoYes |
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paul123 |
84STS Call NumberNoYes |
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paul123 |
100AUTHOR NAMEYesYes |
20:08 |
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paul123 |
245BOOK TITLEYesYes |
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paul123 |
250EDITIONNoNo |
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paul123 |
260PUBLICATIONYesYes |
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paul123 |
300PHYSICAL DESCRIPTIONNoNo |
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paul123 |
377LANGUAGENoNo |
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paul123 |
500NOTESYesNo |
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paul123 |
520SYNOPSISNoNo |
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paul123 |
541REGISTERED DATENoNo |
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paul123 |
942ADDED ENTRY ELEMENTS (KOHA)NoNo |
20:09 |
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paul123 |
952LOCATION AND ITEM INFORMATION (KOHA)YesNo |
20:09 |
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paul123 |
999SYSTEM CONTROL NUMBERS(KOHA)YesNo |
20:10 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah you've nuked out your items fields |
20:10 |
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wizzyrea |
I suggest using the default framework for your first go at an import |
20:10 |
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wizzyrea |
see how it works |
20:10 |
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wizzyrea |
then hide, don't delete, fields. |
20:11 |
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paul123 |
with the default framework there are over 300 tags, is there a way to quickly hide the ones that are not relevant? |
20:12 |
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cait |
hm, the only quick way i can think of is using sql |
20:12 |
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magnuse |
paul123: export to a spreadsheat, edit and import back into koha |
20:12 |
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cait |
oooh |
20:12 |
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cait |
right |
20:12 |
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wizzyrea |
that. |
20:12 |
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cait |
that's a lot better |
20:12 |
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cait |
i always forget we have that nice feature :) |
20:14 |
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paul123 |
so when I export the default framework to excel, what do I do to "hide" the un-relevant fields? |
20:15 |
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wizzyrea |
also, it occurs to me that you could start from the fast add framework |
20:15 |
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wizzyrea |
which is much smaller. |
20:16 |
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cait |
paul_p: there is a hidden column you set to a numeric value to hide |
20:17 |
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paul123 |
ah i see it |
20:17 |
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paul123 |
now |
20:17 |
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paul123 |
what value should I set to hide? |
20:19 |
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francharb_afk |
paul123, I would suggest 8 |
20:20 |
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francharb_afk |
it hides the tag on the opac and pro interface |
20:20 |
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cait |
hi francharb :) |
20:21 |
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francharb |
hi cait! |
20:21 |
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wahanui |
hi cait! are you safely back in germany now? |
20:21 |
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francharb |
:) |
20:21 |
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cait |
nice to see you! how is canada? |
20:21 |
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francharb |
nice to see you too |
20:21 |
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francharb |
Everything goes fine |
20:21 |
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francharb |
I just started a new job |
20:22 |
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francharb |
I work for InLibro now |
20:22 |
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paul123 |
ah great |
20:22 |
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paul123 |
thanks for the tip! |
20:22 |
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paul123 |
:-) |
20:22 |
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francharb |
I will work with koha a little bit longer! :) |
20:22 |
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francharb |
you´re welcome paul123 |
20:23 |
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cait |
francharb: awesome news! how is that? |
20:23 |
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cait |
oh |
20:23 |
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cait |
i should start reading from the top :) |
20:23 |
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cait |
glad to have you back1 |
20:23 |
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cait |
! |
20:23 |
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rangi |
francharb: wow how cool!! |
20:23 |
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francharb |
thanks! |
20:23 |
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francharb |
It´s pretty cool yep |
20:24 |
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francharb |
Today is my first day |
20:24 |
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francharb |
setting up my machine, etc |
20:24 |
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francharb |
getting used to qwerty keyboard as well |
20:24 |
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francharb |
hehe |
20:24 |
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paul123 |
I have one more question |
20:25 |
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rangi |
francharb: i imagine that will take a while :) |
20:25 |
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paul123 |
when I am preparing data with MARCEdit for import, should I tag the call number field with 952? |
20:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1513: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1513/ |
20:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters |
20:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() |
20:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , invoice filters don't all work |
20:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search |
20:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1514 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1511 4 days 0 hr ago) |
20:27 |
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cait |
francharb: workign from home or at inlibro? :) |
20:28 |
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oleonard |
Got a (non-Koha) git problem. I'm trying create a new remote repo to push to, following these directions: http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git[…]ing-Up-the-Server |
20:29 |
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oleonard |
After the "push" step, I don't end up with anything on the remote server |
20:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #124: SUCCESS in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/124/ |
20:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430 - status filter not working in serial claims when translated |
20:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430: arrived and stopped status are not possible in serial claim |
20:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10624: add 'status' option switch for the packages init script |
20:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10689: add regression test |
20:32 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10430 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , status filter not working in serial claims when translated |
20:32 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10689: make public note appear in subscriptions search |
20:32 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10689: make subscription public note appear when making a new order from a subscription |
20:32 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , koha-common.init should implement the 'status' option switch |
20:32 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10689 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , public note does not appear in subscriptions search |
20:33 |
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rangi |
oleonard: do you get any error message? |
20:35 |
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oleonard |
No, the output looked like it was successful in fact |
20:35 |
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francharb |
rangi, especially with a US keyboard with no accent... kind of hard to write french properly. :) |
20:35 |
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francharb |
and cait, I work at inlibro office |
20:36 |
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rangi |
oleonard: hmm been a really long time since i ever did that, i usually create the remote end, then clone from that |
20:36 |
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rangi |
cant think of anything :( |
20:37 |
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cait |
francharb: cool :) |
20:37 |
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oleonard |
Thanks rangi I'll keep tinkering |
20:37 |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
20:38 |
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rangi |
cya magnuse |
20:38 |
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* cait |
gets out the cookie jar to celebrate francharb's new job |
20:39 |
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francharb |
hehe thank you!!!!! |
20:40 |
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paul123 |
sorry to keep bugging, but can someone help me with this question: do i have to tag my book records with the 952 field when parsing in MARCEdit? |
20:43 |
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cait |
when you want to import items, then yes |
20:44 |
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paul123 |
so I should tag the call number with the 952$o tag right? |
20:46 |
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mtompset |
what does: $foo = $bar = '1'; mean? |
20:47 |
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rangi |
same as |
20:47 |
|
rangi |
$bar = 1; |
20:47 |
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rangi |
$foo = $bar; |
20:48 |
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cait |
paul123: you will need: o, a and b = branchcode, y, 2 |
20:48 |
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cait |
at least i would recommend those |
20:48 |
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cait |
and a and b are kind of mandatory to be set to a valid branchcode |
20:49 |
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20:56 |
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paul123 |
ok, thank you, cait! |
20:56 |
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paul123 |
have a good night all, thank you for your help |
20:56 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), paul123. :) |
20:57 |
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mtompset |
And there is the headache. :) |
20:57 |
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mtompset |
YAML::Syck |
20:57 |
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mtompset |
Number::Format |
20:58 |
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mtompset |
and a couple others. |
20:58 |
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mtompset |
i'm surprised it isn't as bad as I remembered. I guess the MARC::blah stuff cpanm'd nicely. |
21:09 |
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rambutan |
I should do better at keeping my resume up to date. Somebody send me a few bullet points I can use. |
21:13 |
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bag |
*makes great coffee |
21:13 |
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bag |
:P |
21:14 |
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rambutan |
hey, forgot that, it's going in |
21:14 |
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eythian |
hi |
21:14 |
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wahanui |
hola, eythian |
21:20 |
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cait |
khall: around? |
21:21 |
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bag |
cait I think he just stepped out |
21:25 |
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khall |
what's up cait? |
21:25 |
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khall |
@later tell wizzyrea nope! |
21:25 |
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huginn |
khall: The operation succeeded. |
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* wizzyrea |
forgot her question (lol) |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
hi khall :) |
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wizzyrea |
hi khall :) |
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cait |
was just looking for a one of my qaa... |
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cait |
to look at 10605 as i signed it off |
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cait |
... and can't qa now :) |
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wizzyrea |
i found it - cool will file a bug for that |
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mtompset |
http://youtu.be/H3r9bOkYW9s (history of english) |
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khall |
wizzyrea: cool beans ; ) |
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bag |
hey cait I have a moment I can look at it :) |
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cait |
awesome thx bag :) |
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khall |
@bag++ |
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huginn |
khall: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
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cait |
so now i can nag khall about his accounts rewrite :) have seen the constant updating, what kind of state is it in currently? :) |
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cait |
@quote random |
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huginn |
cait: Quote #125: "<oleonard> gmcharlt: Or I could fill the tub with milk and cereal and lock them in the bathroom." (added by gmcharlt at 01:14 PM, April 06, 2011) |
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cait |
lol? |
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khall |
cait: it's "so close" to being ready |
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wizzyrea |
(children, presumably) |
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oleonard |
Why have I still not tried that?! |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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cait |
wizzyrea: my first thought was cats, but you are probably right :) |
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* oleonard |
is off to do so |
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cait |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
gl |
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cait |
bye oleonard :) |
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bag |
later oleonard |
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cait |
hah! was fast enough |
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bag |
too slow :( |
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cait |
next time :) |
21:29 |
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khall |
I need to deal with the overdues with fines report, I won't remove it altogether, I'll just cut out the parts that are broken. |
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cait |
khall: i looked at it today |
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cait |
we _are_ using it, but we could replace with a report |
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cait |
also a lmit on the other report for people with fines would probably work |
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khall |
excellent! |
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khall |
ok, I can take that into account as well then! |
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cait |
i think there used to be a feature |
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wizzyrea |
khall - while you're here - we have libraries that use it too, but it's decently rare. |
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cait |
where you could actually send people emails from that report |
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cait |
but it's been broken forever |
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khall |
cait: that explains a lot, thanks much for the info |
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wizzyrea |
theoretically you could do that from a regular report, with a mailto link. |
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cait |
bug 4490 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4490 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, CLOSED INVALID, if xslt is on, koha warn every notice |
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cait |
um |
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cait |
no, not that one |
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cait |
bug 4990 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , reintegrate overdues email in overdue list |
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cait |
me and numbers... |
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khall |
wow, it hasn't worked for a long time then |
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cait |
wizzyrea: it would also create the mail text for you- but i think it wouldn't work with utf-8 - i have looked into doing that with mailto links |
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cait |
in reports |
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cait |
you can actually set a subject and things like that |
21:32 |
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khall |
the last big rock for the accounts rewrite is of course, porting the old accounts data to the new system |
21:32 |
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cait |
hm maybe it would and just ddn't get it working from hte reports page |
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khall |
cait: so you looked at it? what do you think so far? |
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cait |
yeah, that's the problematic thing |
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cait |
ah not at yours - the mail functionality |
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khall |
ah, I see |
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cait |
not yet :) |
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khall |
no worries, but if you are bored, it is almost fully functional, except you won't see any existing fines because I haven't written that part of the db update yet |
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cait |
hm i can't remember how bored feels, buti will make time - probably waiting for the update bits tho |
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khall |
yeah, might as well wait for it to be totally done. I know what you mean ; ) |
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cait |
ah now oleonard is gone.. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
grammar question: This attribute will be only applied to the patron's category "Erwachsener" |
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cait |
do we need the ' here? |
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cait |
hm or patrons of patron category '' |
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cait |
? |
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wizzyrea |
This attribute will only apply to the borrower category "category" |
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cait |
it's from batch modification |
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cait |
so i think will only be applied would make sense |
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cait |
it tells you that it will onl ychange patrons of that category, because the attribute has been limited to that category in configuration |
21:53 |
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cait |
bug 11245 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string |
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ebegin |
@wunder montreal quebec |
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huginn |
ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 0.0°C (5:00 PM EST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
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rambutan |
snow |
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cait |
cooold |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0°C (11:00 PM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
hi ebegin :) |
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rambutan |
no snow |
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ebegin |
Hey cait ! :) |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
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ebegin |
No snow as we type |
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wizzyrea |
definitely no snow. |
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ebegin |
wizzyrea, is there snow during NZ winters ? |
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wizzyrea |
not where we are, too warm. |
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ebegin |
I wish I could say that winter are too warm over here :) |
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eythian |
it snowed in Wellington a few years ago, but it's quite uncommon |
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ebegin |
not snowing here is uncommon ;) |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpGaIDm0azU |
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rangi |
snow in wellington |
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wizzyrea |
note the barefooted people. |
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* ebegin |
wish he could avoid snow.. have to move in NZ |
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eythian |
it snowed most years where I grew up, so you'd have to pick your location :) |
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rangi |
thats one of my fave little videos |
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rambutan |
@wunder Rakiura National Park |
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huginn |
rambutan: Error: No such location could be found. |
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ebegin |
I could tolerate few hours of snow per year :) |
22:21 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: and t-shirt...brrrr |
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rangi |
this is my other favourite little snapshot of people |
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rangi |
http://vimeo.com/31010288#at=0 |
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wizzyrea |
that would have been pretty chilly. |
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rambutan |
Do people live on Auckland Island? |
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ebegin |
at the moment, 0°C is not that cold. We will reach - 30°C in february |
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ebegin |
good night every one ! |
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rangi |
night ebegin |
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wizzyrea |
gnite :) |
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eythian |
rambutan: I don't think so, you might have conservation people there, but I don't think it counts as inhabited. |
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rambutan |
but part of NZ, I assume? |
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eythian |
it'd be cold and not very hospitable I imagine |
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eythian |
yeah |
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francharb |
bye all |
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mtompset |
@later tell WaylonR I think I rebased it properly for you. Please check. |
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huginn |
mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1514: FIXED in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1514/ |
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cait |
hjg |
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bag |
hjg? |
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cait |
screen froze... ignore last comment :) |
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bag |
heh |
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bag |
too late sorry |
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eythian |
hjg eh |
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eythian |
I'm not convinced. |
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cait |
i should stop qa'ing |
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cait |
2:5 (passed/failed) now |
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cait |
morning dcook |
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dcook |
evening cait :) |
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bag |
heya dcook - good day to you |
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bag |
cait that's cause I've been grabbing the small ones to free up your time :) |
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bag |
heh |
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cait |
i still feel mean :) |
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cait |
nightall :) |
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dcook |
Howdy, bag. Good afternoon :) |
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dcook |
Night, cait :) |
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* dcook |
thinks he has encompassed most times of day now.. |
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bag |
almost dcook almost |
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