IRC log for #koha, 2013-11-19

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00:00 wizzyrea yea no crust on that one. Unless you count the potatoes.
00:00 wizzyrea :P
00:00 * bag didn't really learn how to do roasted potatoes correctly until my last trip to see my english cousins
00:01 bag I love them now - my grandma used to always make the best ones and Sonja and I could never repeat them
00:02 bag but gingin's grandma was feeding her persimmons today and calling it mango..  funny thing was gingin was finally saying the word "mango"
00:02 bag poor girl will always call persimmons - mangos now
00:02 bag jcamins ^^^ should enjoy that one
00:02 eythian I'm given to understand that they are really very different things
00:02 jcamins lol
00:02 bag yup :)
00:11 wizzyrea I can't even... *sob* it's so beautiful.
00:11 * wizzyrea ticks boxes and modifies and deletes items all afternoon
00:12 dcook Question to package users...
00:12 dcook How easy is it to go from a standard install to a package install?
00:13 eythian umm
00:13 eythian it's quite possible
00:13 dcook That's good to hear :)
00:13 eythian Though probably best done by setting a package-driven instance on the machine and moving the data into it.
00:14 dcook That's what I was thinking, but I was wondering if that might cause any issues
00:14 dcook I've only done package installs, but I imagine it depends on where they've put their Koha files?
00:15 eythian yeah, you could technically convert a regular install to a package install, but you'll always have issues with it I'd expect.
00:18 wizzyrea khall is long gone eh
00:18 bag yeah he's been out a few hours now
00:18 wizzyrea is alright
00:19 wizzyrea I think merely invoking his name helped my understanding of what his test plan was trying to tell me
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00:27 WaylonR hiya all
00:27 WaylonR hiya mtompset
00:30 dcook Hmm, is there an uninstall option for Koha?
00:30 dcook I've never noticed one..
00:30 jcamins dcook: rm and drop database.
00:31 eythian koha-remove
00:31 wahanui i guess koha-remove is for removing instances.
00:31 jcamins With packages, of course, koha-remove and apt-get purge
00:31 dcook So go around and make sure you've nuked all the koha dirs?
00:31 jcamins If you did a standard install, yeah, pretty much.
00:32 dcook Then whatever apache config
00:32 jcamins Right, that's one of the things you're rm'ing.
00:32 dcook There's no system level Koha user with a standard install, right?
00:32 jcamins If you created one there is.
00:32 jcamins But I'd ask myself why I was doing this, and probably decide this was unnecessary.
00:33 dcook Switching from standard to packages
00:33 dcook (Or just in general deciding you don't want Koha anymore)
00:34 eythian in general, if you're repurposing a server, you'd reinstall everything anyway
00:35 jcamins That's what I mean. I'd usually just reinstall the OS.
00:37 dcook Interesting. That would be my default position as well, but I figured that might be a bit over and beyond what people would generally do.
00:38 jcamins If you're running a serious server, paranoia should be the order of the day.
00:38 dcook I suspected that I was in the right line of work...;)
00:39 dcook Hmm. Good to know.
00:40 dcook Mind you, eythian, when you say in general for vendors or in general for most folk?
00:40 dcook Surely people must run servers of their own that run multiple systems.
00:40 dcook Or would a smart sysadmin put every system on its own VM?
00:40 eythian if something is important enough to have a server devoted to it, you should do it right
00:40 eythian yeah
00:41 eythian even the little self-hosting councils we work with have a system with a bunch of VMs
00:41 eythian it's pretty much the best practice way these days
00:41 dcook It certainly seems the most common
00:41 dcook Oh, looks like the internet is going down...
00:41 dcook If I cut out, thanks for the help and advice :)
00:42 dcook I'll have to inquire with the folks I might be helping
00:42 jcamins dcook: for a personal server, I wouldn't worry about uninstalling unless I was running out of space. In which case I would apply rm judiciously.
00:44 dcook Although you'd only need to do so for programs that you installed from source, yes?
00:44 dcook As packages seem pretty easy to remove overall
00:44 dcook In this case, I'm just wondering about any potential conflicts
00:45 dcook Like trying to install the packages but finding outdated Koha files already there and then things exploding
00:46 eythian the packages and a tarball install some things to the same location, so there is a small risk of something going a bit weird.
00:47 dcook Exactly my fear
00:48 dcook I suppose I could use the koha-install-log as a wayfinder..
00:52 dcook Hmm, I swear there used to be a page that said where the packages put files...
00:53 dcook Ahh
00:53 eythian apt-file list koha-common
00:54 dcook debian / koha-common.README.Debian is the one I was thinking of
00:54 dcook But I like your way much better
00:55 eythian also debian/koha-common.dirs and what not in there
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00:57 dcook Apparently I don't have the apt-file command..
00:58 wizzyrea apt file, no dash?
00:58 dcook Looks like it has a dash
00:59 jcamins apt-get install apt-file?
00:59 dcook jcamins: That's my next thought, but I think it's supposed to just be a command in apt O_o
01:00 jcamins apt-file? No it's not.
01:00 dcook I guess it does have its own package, huh
01:00 jcamins You're thinking of...
01:00 wizzyrea yeesh, what OS?
01:00 dcook wizzyrea: Debian
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01:00 jcamins dpkg -c
01:00 jcamins But dpkg -c requires you to have the deb package file.
01:01 jcamins Or you're thinking of apt-cache show -f, which I believe requires you to have the package installed.
01:04 eythian apt-file is its own thing because it's not something that end users generally need, and it also has to maintain an extra database of all package info
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01:06 dcook Hmm, laptop is not having a good day
01:06 dcook Well, thanks in any case :)
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02:00 mtompset WaylonR: I'm working up my listed of things I commented on, so I'll make it back to 9055 eventually.
02:00 mtompset dpk: You here?
02:25 WaylonR mtompset, cool.
02:57 wizzyrea errr
02:57 wizzyrea with the syspref UseCourseReserves set to "don't use" should course reserves be showing up in the More menu?
02:59 wizzyrea the syspref does seem to correctly hide it from the OPAC
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03:01 wizzyrea @later tell khall question: with the syspref UseCourseReserves set to "don't use" should course reserves be showing up in the More menu?
03:01 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:47 mtompset wizzyrea: Is that related to a bug?
03:47 wizzyrea it is, if it's not intended ;)
03:47 wizzyrea but no, not a formal bug, yet.
03:52 eythian @wunder nzwn
03:52 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
04:09 bag evening
04:09 bag @wunder 93102
04:09 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 10.9°C (8:09 PM PST on November 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
04:10 eythian why do people keep trying to port koha to windows? It just seems like a bad idea.
04:10 mtompset eythian: Because a large percentage of computers run windows by default when you purchase them.
04:10 mtompset And being able to use koha on a default computer is a nice thing.
04:11 eythian It's not a server-quality operating system, unless you pay extra.
04:12 eythian also, I'd expect you'd spend more time making things work that are a bit broken than you would spend installing and learning linux.
04:12 bag I'm with eythian on this -- WHY
04:12 mtompset I'll give you that, but you should already know that if some corners can be cut, people will cut them.
04:12 eythian it certainly sounds like the wrong corner to cut
04:12 eythian you're also totally out of the update stream and running an unsupported system
04:13 mtompset That is true. And yes... but people are afraid of learning curves.
04:13 mtompset Fear makes people do stupid things.
04:14 bag ah but eythian that's from the Secretary General
04:14 eythian bag: oh, so it is!
04:14 mtompset Where are you reading this?!
04:14 eythian email
04:14 mtompset oh my!
04:14 eythian koha-devel
04:14 wahanui koha-devel is most likely the best koha list there is (Hey, Im a bot, im biased) and can be found at http://lists.koha-community.or[…]stinfo/koha-devel
04:15 bag I'd like a fun signature like that
04:15 bag from bag - jedi wannabe
04:16 * bag waves hand and eythian accepts
04:16 eythian heh
04:17 bag DAMN it works!!!
04:17 * bag quickly takes a screenshot
04:34 bag nice response eythian
04:34 bag eythian++
04:34 bag heya mtompset I forget were are you located?
04:35 mtompset currently Canada.
04:38 bag ah
04:38 mtompset Yourself, bag?
04:39 mtompset I'm in Ontario.
04:39 bag Santa Barbara CA
04:39 bag otherwise paradise :P
04:39 bag heh
04:43 mtompset gangster or amish? ;)
04:45 dcook bag: You have some strange weather though
04:45 dcook Wasn't it nearly 20 degrees higher just the other day
04:45 bag yeah that was an odd evening
04:45 bag tonight is a little more normal
04:48 bag but it was still close to 20 during the day - which is it most days of the year
04:52 dcook Does sound rather nice :)
05:04 dcook Can someone else take a look at the DelItem sub in
05:05 dcook Specifically line 626 in master
05:05 dcook It looks like we're trying to set a 'marc' column in the 'deleteditems' table
05:09 dcook The code looks the same in 3.8 and we're getting software errors
05:09 dcook I don't know how that could've ever  worked though O_o
05:09 mtompset looking, dcook.
05:09 dcook Thanks, mtompset :)
05:09 bag hmm dcook give me like 5 minutes and I can look also
05:10 mtompset I thought when you deleted an item, it was to transfer from the items table into the deleted items table.
05:10 dcook Sweet. Sure thing, bag.
05:10 bag just one more thing to get done and then I'm all yours
05:10 dcook Agreed, mtompset
05:10 dcook _koha_delete_item transfers the row from the items table to the deleted items table then removes the row from the items table
05:11 dcook After that though...
05:12 dcook We reindex Zebra with the bib record (without any items attached), then try to put marc into the deleteditems table O_o
05:12 mtompset Actually, that's the thing I find weird.
05:12 mtompset Does the GetMarcBiblio require the item to still be there?
05:13 dcook GetMarcBiblio just gets the Marcxml
05:13 dcook Although it takes an optional parameter to add in the items to that Marcxml record
05:14 dcook Which is missing in this case
05:14 mtompset But _koha_delete_item shouldn't affect the MarcXML field.
05:14 dcook No, it wouldn't
05:14 mtompset So, I guess setting the marc=? means it is trying to tie back to the original MARC.
05:14 dcook But in Zebra we use a combination of the marcxml bib record and the items (which we build into xml that we integrate into that marcxml)
05:15 mtompset Hmmm... if the MARCXML field isn't updated when you delete, then your indexing will break.
05:15 dcook It would appear that way to me
05:15 mtompset Is that what you are getting at, dcook?
05:17 dcook Also, I have someone who is getting fatal software errors
05:17 dcook Which seems odd, as I figure someone would've noticed those before..
05:17 * mtompset grumbles about the evils of the indexing mechanisms. :)
05:20 bag dcook: is this on master?
05:20 bag back
05:22 dcook Yep
05:23 dcook Ahhh, interesting. I see a deleteditems table with a marc column in it
05:23 dcook bag: Sorry, the error isn't
05:23 dcook The error is on 3.8
05:23 dcook But the code is the same as master
05:23 dcook (3.8.0 to be exact)
05:23 bag according to schema marc is unused in Koha
05:24 bag http://schema.koha-community.o[…]deleteditems.html
05:24 dcook Intriguing. Tis lies!
05:24 mtompset It is lies.
05:25 mtompset Code says otherwise.
05:25 mtompset Code never lies.
05:25 bag dcook: the only thing that I can think of is that - this is left over code from when items where in the marc-record
05:25 bag ie. before 3.4 when we started stripping out the 952's (well that's MARC21)
05:25 dcook bag: Agreed
05:26 bag so since the items aren't in marcformat anymore it doesn't cause a problem
05:26 bag and most likely your error is from something else
05:26 dcook Yeah, the error looks like something else
05:26 dcook Well, sort of
05:26 bag so what exactly is the error?
05:26 dcook If you look in your deleteditems table, you show see a 'marc' column
05:26 bag you may have posted it early and I missed it
05:27 bag show/should ?
05:27 dcook Ah yes, should ;)
05:27 bag ok one sec - let me bring up a server
05:27 dcook In my case, it appears that is  missing from this person's database which is distinctly odd
05:27 dcook So the software error is just my problem (despite being an outdated bit of code)
05:28 dcook I think it likely that the indexing isn't working properly though
05:28 bag poop my dev server is not really used much - but that's an empty set for me
05:29 bag ah dcook just alter that table then
05:29 bag ah indexing is a different problem
05:29 bag and 3.8 I think there was an issue with indexing  IIRC
05:29 bag also are you using DOM or GRS1
05:30 bag most likely it sounds like you should just do a full reindes...  what's the size of the db # of recors
05:30 bag records
05:30 * bag types too fast when he's excited
05:33 * bag scared away dcook :(
05:33 bag heh
05:34 dcook Sorry, was chatting to the boss ;)
05:34 mtompset is the alphabetical order in systempreference supposed to be case sensitive?
05:34 dcook bag: Yeah, I'm just going to alter the table to fix the software error
05:35 bag cool
05:35 bag mtompset: I have no idea
05:35 dcook As for the indexing, the filter wouldn't matter. It's the special update
05:35 dcook I might take a little look to see if it does break the indexed record..
05:35 dcook Well, maybe not break so much as corrupt
05:36 bag a full reindex would clear any special updates :)
05:36 dcook oh brb
05:38 bag hmm the signed off queue isn't too bad right now - I'm seeing 55 and only 34 bugs - pretty awesome job #koha
05:38 * bag looks to see if there is a good bug to QA tonight
05:41 bag hmm bug 11112
05:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11112 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Koha::Calendar->new loads all holidays
05:42 mtompset bug 11242?
05:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11242 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , fix bizarre ordering of data and noisy warnings
05:44 bag anything with speed and I'm all about testing (as long as it's in my skill set) :P
05:44 bag oh mtompset I'll look at that one next
05:45 mtompset I figure it was small and simple enough. :)
05:45 bag cool give me 20 minutes and I'm on it
05:45 mtompset Anything to quiet the floody error logs. :)
05:46 bag usually I'm about 20 minutes per patch :)
05:46 mtompset Depends on the patch size. ;)
05:47 bag bigger they are add onto 20 minutes then :D
05:47 mtompset Another small, remove floodiness type bug is bug 11183. :)
05:47 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11183 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Warnings in opac
05:54 dcook back
05:54 dcook thanks bag and mtompset for looking into that issue before with me :)
06:13 mtompset not a problem.
06:13 bag ok I've hit my tired point
06:13 bag zzzzzzzzzz
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06:22 mtompset As have I, bag.
06:22 mtompset Have a great day, #koha cait WaylonR bag dcook etc. :)
06:38 * cait waves sleepily
06:38 dcook hey ya cait :)
06:38 * dcook says pretending not to be at the office
06:39 cait jej
06:39 cait heh even
06:39 dcook Oh my, you are tired!
06:40 dcook Cheap tuesday cinema though, so I'm out!
06:40 dcook Have a good day, cait :)
06:40 dcook (And everyone else!)
06:40 cait thx
06:42 rangi evening
06:43 rangi @later tell tcohen yeah squashing them is probably the easiest/best
06:43 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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07:36 * magnuse waves
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07:38 reiveune hello
07:38 wahanui hi, reiveune
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07:38 magnuse bonjour paul_p et reiveune
07:39 magnuse @wunder boo
07:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady).
07:39 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
07:39 magnuse @wunder konstanz
07:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.2°C (8:35 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling).
07:39 reiveune salut magnuse , cait, kathryn , rangi
07:39 cait hi reiveune
07:39 paul_p good morning #koha
07:42 cait good morning paul_p
07:44 cait ok, have to run, bye
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07:52 samueld hi everybody
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07:58 alex_a bonjour
07:58 wahanui salut, alex_a
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09:22 cait hi #koha
09:26 cait Joubu: thx for the seasons :) does the automatic locale detection work for you? it didn't for me butit's a bit hard to test
09:31 Joubu no, it does not work
09:39 cait ah, not good
09:39 cait i was hoping i just missed changing something - i couldn't test with french
09:40 cait Joubu: bug 11265
09:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11265 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problems with locale saving/editing on serial subscriptions
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09:44 schnydszch Hi! Koha community, I'm trying out this UPDATE items SET more_subfields_xml = UpdateXML(more_subfields_xml, '//datafield[@tag="952"]/su​bfield[@code="i"]/text()', 'MR_00-00032-(PO); MD_2001-04-08') where barcode = '27490' so I can update my items field.
09:44 schnydszch this in mysql. would it be possible?
09:45 rangi hmm if they come back, the answer is no
09:45 rangi post 3.4
09:47 magnuse oh rangi, there was something i wanted to ask you
09:47 magnuse the opl people have trouble cloning from, because of firewall issues
09:48 magnuse do you think it would be doable to enable cloning over http?
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09:48 schnydszch hmm. how do i do it correctly? is there a way?
09:49 rangi schnydszch: actually i was wrong, 952i isnt mapped, so yes that should work
09:49 schnydszch I have 952i set actually
09:49 rangi magnuse: they can clone from the mirror
09:49 cait it's mapped in latre versions only i think
09:50 rangi schnydszch: then you just change the column it's mapped to
09:50 schnydszch it's institutional
09:50 schnydszch but i get 0 row(s) affected.
09:50 rangi more_subfields_xml is only for those ones that are not mapped to an actual column in items
09:50 magnuse rangi: thanks, i think that is what they are doing already
09:51 rangi schnydszch: and you are sure there is data in that column?
09:51 schnydszch hmm no data
09:51 schnydszch how to do it if it has no data?
09:52 rangi well did you just recently map it?
09:52 rangi and is that data in more_subfields_xml instead?
09:52 schnydszch map meaning added in MARC Bibliographic Frameworks?
09:53 schnydszch I added it a long long time ago
09:54 schnydszch I think it's not in more_subfield_xml since, it was leave blank
09:54 rangi and its not in the column you mapped it to?
09:55 schnydszch we haven't implemented adding data in 951i yet
09:55 schnydszch 952i
09:56 schnydszch For this particularly bibliographic record, there is no data in 952i yet.
09:59 rangi right
10:00 rangi so update items set whatevercolumn = 'value' where barcode = 'something'
10:00 schnydszch I added the subfields a long long time ago
10:01 schnydszch yep but i'm updating xml data in more_subfields_xml :)
10:03 rangi why?
10:03 rangi if you mapped it to a column
10:03 rangi then you dont do that
10:03 rangi and you said you mapped it to a column
10:04 rangi mapped meaning linking it to a column in the items table
10:05 * rangi goes to sleep
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10:14 schnydszch linking in the Advance constraints? I leave it blank
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13:12 tcohen morning
13:13 cait hi tcohen
13:13 tcohen hi cait
13:13 tcohen where's kf?
13:13 wahanui kf is probably cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
13:14 cait kf got kidnapped
13:15 magnuse good thing we have cait as a backup!
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13:16 cait tcohen: someone else is using the nick i think
13:16 cait yeah... so i lost
13:16 tcohen cait: maybe my notebook :-D
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13:26 oleonard Hi #koha
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13:42 tcohen gmcharlt: "Tag 50% is not a valid tag", does it sound familiar
13:44 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "gmcharlt: I get this when running prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t" (25 lines) at
13:44 tcohen (btw: I wrapped a new_from_xml call from _Zconn_event in an eval block)
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14:42 gaetan_B hello
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14:51 oleonard Hi gaetan_B
15:03 cait hi oleonard and gaetan_B :)
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15:05 gaetan_B hi cait, hi oleonard :)
15:20 mtompset Greetings, gaetan_B oleonard cait maximep rambutan. :)
15:21 rambutan morning
15:21 cait hi mtompset and rambutan
15:21 rambutan morning cait
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15:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug11221' <[…]102e6269a59bcfd58> / Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string <[…]3e71f7239eaf50b25> / Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates <
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16:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #224 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:02 gmcharlt tcohen: the warning is fine; please read the commit log for t/db_depedendent/Search.t regarding bug 10684
16:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10684 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Koha search dies on undecodable records
16:03 tcohen i've attached a small followup for bug 11096 so the tests pass
16:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra
16:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #1512 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
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16:11 paul123 hello
16:11 paul123 I am am a newbie at Koha
16:12 paul123 i've manage to setup Koha 3.12
16:12 oleonard Hi paul123
16:13 cait hi paul
16:13 cait paul123:
16:13 paul123 now, I am importing data into Koha via Stage import
16:13 paul123 hi guys
16:13 paul123 my records (books) do not have barcode
16:14 paul123 so my question is, is it possible to autogenerate barcode for these imported records?
16:16 oleonard I don't think you can do that on import paul123
16:16 paul123 hmm
16:17 cait paul123: I thin oleonard is right there
16:17 cait you will have to edit them later - or you could manipulate them on sql level, but then you have to make sure you reindex
16:17 cait reindex = rebuild your search index
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16:18 paul123 i've been using MarcEdit to parse my records from a txt file
16:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug8854' <[…]3cd70649d60a568d8> / bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters <[…]c6e3d21f5e01dc364>
16:19 paul123 is there a tool that I can use autogenerate barcodes for these 36,000 records before staging import?
16:24 SlyzertVoltrond you mean the barcodes aren't already in there?
16:24 oleonard paul123: I too use MarcEdit to perform batch edits before importing, but I'm not aware of a feature which will generate barcodes
16:25 ashimema anyone here happen to have pazpar working and want to test a bug?
16:28 oleonard ashimema: I wonder if any of the changes to that template over the last few years have actually been tested
16:29 ashimema I thought that.. but it's a shame that my patch is being blocked because of it
16:32 ashimema Going through the code on that page, I can't see that it's been updated in many years for the other fixes that have gone in elsewhere.
16:32 ashimema oleonard: Did you test it for bootstrap..?
16:33 oleonard Nope :P
16:34 ashimema haha.. then your right.. I don't thik anyone has tested it in years..
16:34 cait ashimema: remind me a bit later? i think that is not really actively used
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16:34 cait but have to run out now
16:34 cait bye all
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16:34 ashimema Maybe I can get pianohacker to try it out.. I know he's got pazpar running at least as he uses it for his overdirve stuff
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16:38 francharb good morning all
16:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug11269' <[…]e6b3c2adc3d8c2737> / Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() <[…]7fbbf66393f8a2c69>
16:46 paul_p welcome back francharb !!!
16:47 paul_p francharb (j'ai pas eu le temps de te saluer sur notre channel BibLibre, tu es passé trop vite ;-) )
16:49 jcamins francharb: morning? Did you move to Canada?
16:49 bag morning
16:49 wahanui morning is a state of cat
16:49 * ebegin is proud to announce that francharb (previously from  BibLibre) is now located in Montreal and working for inLibro
16:49 francharb yes jcamins
16:49 wahanui jcamins is very, very irascible.
16:49 bag coolness :)
16:50 reiveune bye
16:50 jcamins Awesome! Welcome to this side of the Atlantic!
16:50 francharb I moved a couple of month ago
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16:50 francharb late june
16:50 druthb hi, francharb! :)
16:50 francharb and here I am, back in the game ;)
16:50 francharb thank you jcamins!
16:50 francharb hi druthb
16:51 francharb whats up in texas?
16:52 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #224: UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/224/
16:52 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11221: ensure that SQLHelper uses NULL rather than 0000-00-00 as default date value
16:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates
16:52 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string
16:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , New patrons are created with invalid dateofbirth value if field is left empty
16:53 druthb The temperature, for one thing, francharb.  Unseasonably warm for this time of year.
16:53 druthb @wunder 77098
16:53 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 19.4°C (10:53 AM CST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
16:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #225 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #223 4 days 1 hr ago)
16:53 gmcharlt francharb++
16:53 druthb And other than that, work work work…  :)
16:53 francharb thank you gmcharlt
16:53 francharb @wunder montreal
16:53 huginn francharb: Error: No such location could be found.
16:54 francharb ahah
16:54 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec
16:54 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 1.0°C (11:00 AM EST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
16:54 druthb brr
16:54 * paul_p is very happy to see francharb back ! really !
16:54 francharb anyway, it's colder here than in houston, for sure!
16:55 * paul_p think ebegin had a good idea hiring francharb. And hope francharb had negociated a good income, because he's worth it ;-)
16:55 paul_p (and everybody will be happy at the end)
16:55 francharb :)
16:55 bag :)
16:55 bag @wunder 93102
16:55 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 14.3°C (8:55 AM PST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
16:56 francharb I'm glad being back here!
16:56 francharb for now, I need to set up my laptop!
16:56 francharb see ya
17:14 tcohen paul_p: you have a couple of pictures in your phone i'd like to see :-D
17:19 cait joined #koha
17:20 * cait waves
17:22 * ashimema waves
17:22 paul_p tcohen you're right. could you drop me a mail so I don't forget ?
17:23 tcohen paul_p: of course. how are u doing?
17:24 paul_p not sure, but I'll probably put them on my piwigo gallery
17:25 druthb hi, cait! :)
17:25 cait hi druthb :)
17:25 cait lovely photo on fb :)
17:25 druthb thanx! :)
17:27 druthb The boss handed out holiday presents at the banquet last night.  AAA membership, chocolates, and movie tickets. :)
17:27 cait aaa?
17:28 druthb automobile service club.
17:28 cait oh
17:28 druthb roadside service, trip planning, some other discounts.
17:28 cait what did you get?
17:28 cait all of that? :)
17:28 druthb Same as everyone else—all three.
17:28 cait very cool :)
17:28 gmcharlt @arewethereyet
17:28 huginn gmcharlt: Error: The command "arewethereyet" is available in the Assorted and ReleaseDay plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "arewethereyet".
17:28 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
17:28 cait hi gmcharlt :)
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17:29 druthb yep.  There are 190 employees now—I estimate they spent nearly $20K on those presents this year.  The for-profit world is a very different pace.
17:29 cait sounds like it
17:29 wahanui sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;)
17:29 paul_p tcohen http://famillepoulain.piwigo.c[…]con13_reno_nevada
17:29 cait we have a christmas party, but everyone pays for their food :)
17:29 gmcharlt @arewethereyet
17:29 huginn gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 2 days
17:30 cait gmcharlt: getting impatient? :)
17:30 druthb We had open bar cocktail hour, then dinner.  The filet mignon was just wonderful. :)
17:31 tcohen paul_p++
17:32 gmcharlt paul_p++
17:33 paul_p for the record = piwigo is an OpenSource project, managed by Pierrick Le Gall, that oldtimers of the Koha community probably remember ;-)
17:34 cait nice photos :)
17:34 tcohen great photos!
17:36 cait tcohen: oh, you had yours on google+ right?
17:36 druthb great photos, and a great-looking gallery—I've been using Gallery3, and I dislike it a lot.
17:36 druthb Might be migration time.
17:36 cait i wanted to download a few to show my family over the holidays
17:36 tcohen cait: yes
17:37 cait found thenm :)
17:38 cait i like the photo with tcohen and the pumpkin ;)
17:38 tcohen heh
17:40 cait ok, i have paul_p and tcohen - the rest is on flickr? :)
17:41 druthb I haven't got all mine up yet, but they'll be on
17:41 druthb s/all/any of/
17:43 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
17:43 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #225: FIXED in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/225/
17:43 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters
17:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield()
17:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , invoice filters don't all work
17:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search
17:47 oleonard That reminds me... I started posting photos to flickr and then didn't finish...
18:02 tcohen :-D
18:02 tcohen oleonard++ # more photos
18:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #124 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:06 mtompset tcohen: DOH! I didn't report it. Thanks for reporting and fixing it.
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18:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1512: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1512/
18:16 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11221: ensure that SQLHelper uses NULL rather than 0000-00-00 as default date value
18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates
18:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string
18:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , New patrons are created with invalid dateofbirth value if field is left empty
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18:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #1513 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1511 3 days 22 hr ago)
19:02 mtompset Wow... Koha Pi is coming.
19:02 mtompset 1 more day.
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19:03 gaetan_B bye!
19:03 jcamins rambutan: random non-Koha question for you: who do you permit to use the 3d printer?
19:05 jcamins The question of whether kids have access to 3d printers came up in a conversation.
19:05 rambutan We havn't had time to finish building it, but when we do, after a short test phase where we figure out how to use it ourselves....
19:05 rambutan we will let just about any patron use it, including kids.
19:05 cait yay!
19:06 jcamins Nice!
19:06 jcamins Thanks.
19:06 rambutan The way we envision it working is that they (all them "thays") will download/created the images, put it on an SD card, put that in the printer, and we help them print it out
19:07 mtompset Does cpanm have the same search path and upgrading uses that installing libraries using cpan does?
19:07 * oleonard needs to find somewhere to print one of these
19:07 mtompset (as compared to installing from repository libraries)
19:07 rambutan We will, certainly in the beginning anyway, have some physical control over the printer itself, to keep it safe from  younger patrons, but it's not like we'll have it under wraps either.
19:08 rangi morning
19:08 cait morning rangi
19:08 mtompset Greetings, rangi. :)
19:09 mtompset oleonard: You have a busted pen that needs that part?
19:09 oleonard yeah, stupid tiny piece of plastic
19:11 jcamins A friend of mine is probably buying a 3d printer. I'll have him make you one.
19:11 jcamins Remind me.
19:11 rangi we have one in the chch office, we used to have a reprap here in the wellington office too
19:12 oleonard Cool, thanks. Really I should poke around here at the university, someone's sure to have one eh?
19:12 rangi bound to
19:13 janPasi mulla on \<janp[pa].*
19:13 janPasi äh
19:13 janPasi wrong channel
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19:14 oleonard Well, there I go:[…]ons/3dprinter.cfm
19:15 rambutan we have the mendelmax 2, if anybody cares.           Open hardware (like open source software),
19:16 rambutan All right, ya'll got me woked up.
19:16 rambutan So I think it's great that Koha has an open source chat channel where you can actually talk to the coders--the real producers of the software, and especially...
19:17 rambutan some of the original people like Chris. I just think thats amazing. That wouldn't happen with
19:18 rangi i doubt any of the original coders are left there
19:18 rangi been replaced with salespeople
19:18 cait rambutan: now you are making him feel old again *hides*
19:19 rangi heh
19:19 rambutan and the same thing is happening with 3d printers--it's still a very new technology, but I can get on freenode - #reprap and talk to sound and Josef Prusa and all the original
19:19 rambutan engineers.
19:19 rambutan someday that will probably go away, although quite happily it hasn't happened to koha yet.
19:21 rangi vik olliver used to work for catalyst
19:21 rangi if you are chatting with him, tell him i say hi :)
19:22 rambutan don't know him by that nick
19:23 rangi
19:25 rambutan "sound" is the nick of an Italian programer that produces
19:28 rambutan I see Vik Olliver does have a nick on #reprap, but he's not currently logged on.
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19:37 mtompset since I have a window 8.1 machine. I'm trying something crazy... installing Koha... let's see what horrible problems I encounter using strawberry perl. :)
19:37 rambutan Josef Prusa -
19:39 cait brb
19:39 rangi mtompset: why dont you try the bundle just to see if it even works
19:39 rangi it should be strawberry perl
19:40 mtompset the one from pakistan?
19:40 rambutan sound -
19:40 rangi yep
19:40 mtompset They didn't give a link to it.
19:40 mtompset I went to the web page, and couldn't find it.
19:40 rangi ah maybe ask for one ;) that would seem like a useful thing to try
19:44 mtompset Okay... doing that.
19:44 mtompset In the mean time. Trying for myself. :)
19:47 paul123 hi
19:47 wahanui hi, paul123
19:47 paul123 i have a question about displaying the call number in Koha
19:47 paul123 more specifically in OPAC
19:48 paul123 I am managing a library that uses a custom call/classification number
19:48 paul123 so I tagged it with the 084a tag
19:48 paul123 however, when I search for a book in OPAC it doesn't display the call number
19:49 paul123 how can I make it show and indicate that a book is available
19:49 * wizzyrea waves
19:50 rangi id tag it at the item level
19:51 paul123 can you tell me how I can do that?
19:51 wizzyrea yeah it sounds like you want to show the call number of the item, not the bib
19:51 rangi 952t
19:51 rangi sorry nope
19:51 rangi 952o
19:52 rangi and then in 952$2 put your classification scheme
19:54 paul123 so you're saying, I should tag my records with 952... at the MARCEdit stage?
19:54 * wizzyrea had never looked at the classification sources page - nifty!
19:55 rangi paul123: 952 is for items, you should already have 952 fields for any biblio records taht you actually have copies of
19:56 rangi things cant be available, if you dont have items attached
19:56 rangi (unless they are electronic of course, but even then its better to make an item for them)
19:57 mtompset strangely... this is going better than I recall last time.
19:58 paul123 hmm, when I created my custom Bibli Framework for Books, I didn't create that tag
19:58 mtompset with the -b -r flags added to, and strawberry perl having cpanm installed by default. All is going well so far.
19:58 cait paul_p: hm be careful with creating your own, advice is to base on default and only hide fields you don't need
19:59 cait because there are some fields koha needs
19:59 cait oh
19:59 cait paul123:
19:59 cait too many pauls :)
19:59 paul123 hehe
20:02 paul123 hmm, I was tired of hiding too many tags just for a simple book, so I created a smaller framework to import them
20:03 paul123 I only need 15 fields
20:04 paul123 so are you saying, I should reimport my records into Koha with the 952 field set?
20:04 cait you should define the fields in the framewrk first
20:04 rangi do you want items?
20:04 cait and also some others
20:05 rangi cos if you want to ever be able to circulate, you need those
20:05 cait and run the marc frameworks test
20:05 paul123 actually, my custom framework has the field 952 defined
20:05 paul123 I just didn't attach any data to it in my records
20:06 paul123 ok, I just ran the Framework Test
20:06 paul123 and got one error
20:06 paul123 item fields ALL items fields MUST :
20:06 paul123 be mapped to the same tag,
20:06 paul123 and they must all be in the 10 (items) tab
20:08 paul123 and this is my custom Framework for Books
20:08 paul123 TagLibRepeatableMandatory
20:08 paul123 20ISBNYesNo
20:08 paul123 24BARCODENoYes
20:08 paul123 84STS Call NumberNoYes
20:08 paul123 100AUTHOR NAMEYesYes
20:08 paul123 245BOOK TITLEYesYes
20:08 paul123 250EDITIONNoNo
20:08 paul123 260PUBLICATIONYesYes
20:08 paul123 377LANGUAGENoNo
20:08 paul123 500NOTESYesNo
20:09 paul123 520SYNOPSISNoNo
20:09 paul123 541REGISTERED DATENoNo
20:09 paul123 942ADDED ENTRY ELEMENTS (KOHA)NoNo
20:10 wizzyrea yeah you've nuked out your items fields
20:10 wizzyrea I suggest using the default framework for your first go at an import
20:10 wizzyrea see how it works
20:10 wizzyrea then hide, don't delete, fields.
20:11 paul123 with the default framework there are over 300 tags, is there a way to quickly hide the ones that are not relevant?
20:12 cait hm, the only quick way i can think of is using sql
20:12 magnuse paul123: export to a spreadsheat, edit and import back into koha
20:12 cait oooh
20:12 cait right
20:12 wizzyrea that.
20:12 cait that's a lot better
20:12 cait i always forget we have that nice feature :)
20:14 paul123 so when I export the default framework to excel, what do I do to "hide" the un-relevant fields?
20:15 wizzyrea also, it occurs to me that you could start from the fast add framework
20:15 wizzyrea which is much smaller.
20:16 cait paul_p: there is a hidden column you set to a numeric value to hide
20:17 paul123 ah i see it
20:17 paul123 now
20:17 paul123 what value should I set to hide?
20:19 francharb_afk paul123, I would suggest 8
20:20 francharb_afk it hides the tag on the opac and pro interface
20:20 cait hi francharb :)
20:21 francharb hi cait!
20:21 wahanui hi cait! are you safely back in germany now?
20:21 francharb :)
20:21 cait nice to see you! how is canada?
20:21 francharb nice to see you too
20:21 francharb Everything goes fine
20:21 francharb I just started a new job
20:22 francharb I work for InLibro now
20:22 paul123 ah great
20:22 paul123 thanks for the tip!
20:22 paul123 :-)
20:22 francharb I will work with koha a little bit longer! :)
20:22 francharb you´re welcome paul123
20:23 cait francharb: awesome news! how is that?
20:23 cait oh
20:23 cait i should start reading from the top :)
20:23 cait glad to have you back1
20:23 cait !
20:23 rangi francharb: wow how cool!!
20:23 francharb thanks!
20:23 francharb It´s pretty cool yep
20:24 francharb Today is my first day
20:24 francharb setting up my machine, etc
20:24 francharb getting used to qwerty keyboard as well
20:24 francharb hehe
20:24 paul123 I have one more question
20:25 rangi francharb: i imagine that will take a while :)
20:25 paul123 when I am preparing data with MARCEdit for import, should I tag the call number field with 952?
20:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1513: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1513/
20:25 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters
20:25 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield()
20:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , invoice filters don't all work
20:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search
20:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #1514 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1511 4 days 0 hr ago)
20:27 cait francharb: workign from home or at inlibro? :)
20:28 oleonard Got a (non-Koha) git problem. I'm trying create a new remote repo to push to, following these directions:[…]ing-Up-the-Server
20:29 oleonard After the "push" step, I don't end up with anything on the remote server
20:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #124: SUCCESS in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/124/
20:32 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430 - status filter not working in serial claims when translated
20:32 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430: arrived and stopped status are not possible in serial claim
20:32 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10624: add 'status' option switch for the packages init script
20:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10689: add regression test
20:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10430 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , status filter not working in serial claims when translated
20:32 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10689: make public note appear in subscriptions search
20:32 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10689: make subscription public note appear when making a new order from a subscription
20:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , koha-common.init should implement the 'status' option switch
20:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10689 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , public note does not appear in subscriptions search
20:33 rangi oleonard: do you get any error message?
20:35 oleonard No, the output looked like it was successful in fact
20:35 francharb rangi, especially with a US keyboard with no accent... kind of hard to write french properly. :)
20:35 francharb and cait, I work at inlibro office
20:36 rangi oleonard: hmm been a really long time since i ever did that, i usually create the remote end, then clone from that
20:36 rangi cant think of anything :(
20:37 cait francharb: cool :)
20:37 oleonard Thanks rangi I'll keep tinkering
20:37 magnuse have fun #koha!
20:38 rangi cya magnuse
20:38 * cait gets out the cookie jar to celebrate francharb's new job
20:39 francharb hehe thank you!!!!!
20:40 paul123 sorry to keep bugging, but can someone help me with this question: do i have to tag my book records with the 952 field when parsing in MARCEdit?
20:43 cait when you want to import items, then yes
20:44 paul123 so I should tag the call number with the 952$o tag right?
20:46 mtompset what does: $foo = $bar = '1'; mean?
20:47 rangi same as
20:47 rangi $bar = 1;
20:47 rangi $foo = $bar;
20:48 cait paul123: you will need: o, a and b = branchcode, y, 2
20:48 cait at least i would recommend those
20:48 cait and a and b are kind of mandatory to be set to a valid branchcode
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20:56 paul123 ok, thank you, cait!
20:56 paul123 have a good night all, thank you for your help
20:56 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), paul123. :)
20:57 mtompset And there is the headache. :)
20:57 mtompset YAML::Syck
20:57 mtompset Number::Format
20:58 mtompset and a couple others.
20:58 mtompset i'm surprised it isn't as bad as I remembered. I guess the MARC::blah stuff cpanm'd nicely.
21:09 rambutan I should do better at keeping my resume up to date. Somebody send me a few bullet points I can use.
21:13 bag *makes great coffee
21:13 bag :P
21:14 rambutan hey, forgot that, it's going in
21:14 eythian hi
21:14 wahanui hola, eythian
21:20 cait khall: around?
21:21 bag cait I think he just stepped out
21:25 khall what's up cait?
21:25 khall @later tell wizzyrea nope!
21:25 huginn khall: The operation succeeded.
21:25 * wizzyrea forgot her question (lol)
21:26 cait heh
21:26 cait hi khall :)
21:26 wizzyrea hi khall :)
21:26 cait was just looking for a one of my qaa...
21:26 cait to look at 10605 as i signed it off
21:26 cait ... and can't qa now :)
21:27 wizzyrea i found it - cool will file a bug for that
21:27 mtompset (history of english)
21:27 khall wizzyrea: cool beans ; )
21:27 bag hey cait I have a moment I can look at it :)
21:27 cait awesome thx bag :)
21:27 khall @bag++
21:27 huginn khall: I've exhausted my database of quotes
21:27 cait so now i can nag khall about his accounts rewrite :) have seen the constant updating, what kind of state is it in currently? :)
21:27 cait @quote random
21:27 huginn cait: Quote #125: "<oleonard> gmcharlt: Or I could fill the tub with milk and cereal and lock them in the bathroom." (added by gmcharlt at 01:14 PM, April 06, 2011)
21:28 cait lol?
21:28 khall cait: it's "so close" to being ready
21:28 wizzyrea (children, presumably)
21:28 oleonard Why have I still not tried that?!
21:28 wizzyrea :D
21:28 cait wizzyrea: my first thought was cats, but you are probably right :)
21:28 * oleonard is off to do so
21:28 cait hehe
21:28 wizzyrea gl
21:28 cait bye oleonard :)
21:28 bag later oleonard
21:28 cait hah! was fast enough
21:28 bag too slow :(
21:28 cait next time :)
21:29 khall I need to deal with the overdues with fines report, I won't remove it altogether, I'll just cut out the parts that are broken.
21:29 cait khall: i looked at it today
21:29 cait we _are_ using it, but we could replace with a report
21:29 cait also a lmit on the other report for people with fines would probably work
21:29 khall excellent!
21:29 khall ok, I can take that into account as well then!
21:30 cait i think there used to be a feature
21:30 wizzyrea khall - while you're here - we have libraries that use it too, but it's decently rare.
21:30 cait where you could actually send people emails from that report
21:30 cait but it's been broken forever
21:30 khall cait: that explains a lot, thanks much for the info
21:30 wizzyrea theoretically you could do that from a regular report, with a mailto link.
21:30 cait bug 4490
21:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4490 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, CLOSED INVALID, if xslt is on, koha warn every notice
21:30 cait um
21:30 cait no, not that one
21:31 cait bug 4990
21:31 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , reintegrate overdues email in overdue list
21:31 cait me and numbers...
21:31 khall wow, it hasn't worked for a long time then
21:31 cait wizzyrea: it would also create the mail text for you- but i think it wouldn't work with utf-8 - i have looked into doing that with mailto links
21:31 cait in reports
21:31 cait you can actually set a subject and things like that
21:32 khall the last big rock for the accounts rewrite is of course, porting the old accounts data to the new system
21:32 cait hm maybe it would and just ddn't get it working from hte reports page
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21:32 khall cait: so you looked at it? what do you think so far?
21:32 cait yeah, that's the problematic thing
21:32 cait ah not at yours - the mail functionality
21:32 khall ah, I see
21:34 cait not yet :)
21:35 khall no worries, but if you are bored, it is almost fully functional, except you won't see any existing fines because I haven't written that part of the db update yet
21:36 cait hm i can't remember how bored feels, buti will make time - probably waiting for the update bits tho
21:36 khall yeah, might as well wait for it to be totally done. I know what you mean ; )
21:37 cait ah now oleonard is gone..
21:46 cait hm
21:46 cait grammar question:                                                  This attribute will be only applied to the patron's category "Erwachsener"
21:46 cait do we need the ' here?
21:47 cait hm or patrons of patron category ''
21:47 cait ?
21:50 wizzyrea This attribute will only apply to the borrower category "category"
21:52 cait it's from batch modification
21:52 cait so i think will only be applied would make sense
21:53 cait it tells you that it will onl ychange patrons of that category, because the attribute has been limited to that category in configuration
21:53 cait bug 11245
21:53 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , typo in javascript string
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22:12 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec
22:12 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 0.0°C (5:00 PM EST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
22:13 rambutan snow
22:13 cait cooold
22:13 cait @wunder Konstanz
22:13 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0°C (11:00 PM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
22:13 cait hi ebegin :)
22:13 rambutan no snow
22:13 ebegin Hey cait ! :)
22:13 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
22:13 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
22:13 ebegin No snow as we type
22:13 wizzyrea definitely no snow.
22:15 ebegin wizzyrea, is there snow during NZ winters ?
22:15 wizzyrea not where we are, too warm.
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22:15 ebegin I wish I could say that winter are too warm over here :)
22:16 eythian it snowed in Wellington a few years ago, but it's quite uncommon
22:17 ebegin not snowing here is uncommon ;)
22:17 rangi
22:18 rangi snow in wellington
22:18 wizzyrea note the barefooted people.
22:18 * ebegin wish he could avoid snow.. have to move in NZ
22:19 eythian it snowed most years where I grew up, so you'd have to pick your location :)
22:20 rangi thats one of my fave little videos
22:20 rambutan @wunder Rakiura National Park
22:20 huginn rambutan: Error: No such location could be found.
22:20 ebegin I could tolerate few hours of snow per year :)
22:21 cait wizzyrea: and t-shirt...brrrr
22:21 rangi this is my other favourite little snapshot of people
22:21 rangi
22:21 wizzyrea that would have been pretty chilly.
22:21 rambutan Do people live on Auckland Island?
22:21 ebegin at the moment, 0°C is not that cold. We will reach - 30°C in february
22:22 ebegin good night every one !
22:22 rangi night ebegin
22:22 wizzyrea gnite :)
22:23 eythian rambutan: I don't think so, you might have conservation people there, but I don't think it counts as inhabited.
22:23 rambutan but part of NZ, I assume?
22:23 eythian it'd be cold and not very hospitable I imagine
22:23 eythian yeah
22:23 francharb bye all
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22:29 mtompset @later tell WaylonR I think I rebased it properly for you. Please check.
22:29 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
22:29 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
22:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1514: FIXED in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1514/
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22:39 cait hjg
22:41 bag hjg?
22:41 cait screen froze... ignore last comment :)
22:41 bag heh
22:41 bag too late sorry
22:44 eythian hjg eh
22:44 eythian I'm not convinced.
22:49 cait i should stop qa'ing
22:49 cait 2:5 (passed/failed) now
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22:51 cait morning dcook
22:52 dcook evening cait :)
22:58 bag heya dcook - good day to you
22:59 bag cait that's cause I've been grabbing the small ones to free up your time :)
22:59 bag heh
22:59 cait i still feel mean :)
22:59 cait nightall :)
22:59 dcook Howdy, bag. Good afternoon :)
22:59 dcook Night, cait :)
22:59 * dcook thinks he has encompassed most times of day now..
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23:01 bag almost dcook almost
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