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| 00:06 |
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tcohen |
I dislike it too |
| 00:07 |
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tcohen |
we could add sudo to the koha-list call |
| 00:07 |
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tcohen |
the result is that when pressing tab the first time the password is asked |
| 00:07 |
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jcamins |
Ummm... |
| 00:08 |
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tcohen |
i'm not sure how to solve this, I wrote it using a root user on a vm and didn't take care about the non-root user |
| 00:10 |
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jcamins |
Doesn't koha-list show all instances? |
| 00:10 |
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tcohen |
yes, but we have some switches (enabled, disbled, sip, nosip, email, noemail) |
| 00:11 |
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tcohen |
and those need to read stuff like (SIPconfig.xml existence) |
| 00:13 |
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jcamins |
Right, I'm suggesting you just acknowledge the limitations of tab completion, and provide tab completion that is somewhat useful. |
| 00:14 |
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tcohen |
that's a good advise |
| 00:46 |
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jcamins |
Ugh. I don't have any swap space on this server. |
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| 03:30 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 03:48 |
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mtompset |
For everyone where applicable, it's fall back an hour time this weekend. :) |
| 03:49 |
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mtompset |
Have a great weekend, #koha. |
| 03:56 |
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rambuten |
@wunder bkk |
| 03:56 |
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huginn |
rambuten: The current temperature in Bangkok (Don Mueang), Thailand is 33.0°C (10:30 AM ICT on November 03, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
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* cait |
waves |
| 07:58 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 07:58 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.5°C (8:55 AM CET on November 03, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). |
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| 15:01 |
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peggy |
Good morning/afternoon/evening |
| 15:02 |
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rambuten |
it's morning! |
| 15:03 |
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peggy |
I agree. |
| 15:03 |
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peggy |
I'm a newbie developer. How can I debug a .tt file? I use warn in the perl files, but .tt isn't perl (is it??) |
| 15:05 |
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jcamins |
You can use Perl in TT, but what are you trying to debug? |
| 15:05 |
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rambuten |
I wouldn't know, but there are some really smart people that will who will be online in a few hours! |
| 15:06 |
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peggy |
That will work. I'll ask again in a little while. |
| 15:06 |
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jcamins |
The only time I have really needed to do significant debugging in TT was when I was writing a new plugin. |
| 15:07 |
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peggy |
Hi jcamins, I'm changing something in circulation.tt. [% IF ( CircAutoPrintQuickSlip == 'qslip' ) %] |
| 15:07 |
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peggy |
And it doesn't work, so I wanted to make sure that I was at least getting there, and (in a perfect world) find out what the valude of CircAutoPrintQuickSlip is |
| 15:08 |
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jcamins |
What I do for debugging that sort of problem is add a warn to the Perl script. |
| 15:08 |
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peggy |
I don't understand how the .pl files and .tt files are connected. |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins |
You can add [% CircAutoPrintQuickSlip %] to see what the value in the template is, but that won't tell you which template is getting loaded. |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins |
At the very end of every Perl script is an output_html_with_headers (or something like that), which tells Koha to render the template that was specified at the beginning of the file. |
| 15:10 |
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peggy |
output_html_with_http_headers $query, $cookie, $template->output; |
| 15:10 |
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peggy |
is in circulation.pl |
| 15:11 |
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peggy |
How is the template specified at the beginning of the file? |
| 15:12 |
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jcamins |
get_template_and_user. |
| 15:13 |
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peggy |
Ah, I see that |
| 15:14 |
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peggy |
my ( $template, $loggedinuser, $cookie ) = get_template_and_user ( { template_name => 'circ/circulation.tmpl', query => $query, type => "intranet", authnotrequired => 0, flagsrequired => { circulate => 'circulate_remaining_permissions' }, |
| 15:15 |
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peggy |
(Sorry, that was ugly...) The query => $query means that the same parameters that are passed to the .pl program are passed to the .tt? |
| 15:15 |
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peggy |
So if the parameter is correct in .pl it will be correct in .tt? |
| 15:16 |
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jcamins |
Not exactly. $query is the CGI query so that the script can send a response to the correct client. |
| 15:17 |
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jcamins |
The parameters for the template are set in $template->{VARS} |
| 15:18 |
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peggy |
CircAutoPrintQuickSlip => C4::Context->preference("CircAutoPrintQuickSlip"), |
| 15:20 |
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peggy |
The definition of which template will be used is at the beginning. The setting of the parameters ($template->{VARS} is at the end of circulation.pl |
| 15:20 |
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peggy |
is the template "called" to display at some point in the .pl file? |
| 15:21 |
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peggy |
or is that the output_html_with_http_headers statement? |
| 15:21 |
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jcamins |
See $template->output in the output_html_with_http_headers line? |
| 15:22 |
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jcamins |
$template->output is actually a method call, which processes the template and returns the result. |
| 15:23 |
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peggy |
OK. So I can test the value near where it is set in the $template->{VARS} and be confident that is what the .tt file is getting. |
| 15:25 |
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peggy |
What language does the .tt file use? What operator is used for string compares? |
| 15:30 |
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jcamins |
It's Perl, but TT overloads the == operator to automatically do string comparison when appropriate. |
| 15:31 |
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peggy |
OK. so != is the correct operator |
| 15:33 |
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peggy |
Thanks, jcamins. This makes a lot more sense now. I'm going to play with it a bit... |
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| 18:44 |
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rangi |
peggy: you still around? |
| 18:44 |
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rangi |
theres a couple of ways i debug templates |
| 18:44 |
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rangi |
one is the old html comment trick |
| 18:45 |
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rangi |
<!-- CircAutoPrintQuickSlip=[% CircAutoPrintQuickSlip %] --> |
| 18:45 |
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peggy |
I'm here |
| 18:45 |
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rangi |
then you can view source and find CircAutoPrintQuickSlip |
| 18:45 |
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rangi |
and it should have the value after the = |
| 18:46 |
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rangi |
that works well for scalar type variables |
| 18:46 |
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rangi |
however if you have something more complex |
| 18:46 |
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peggy |
Good to know. |
| 18:46 |
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rangi |
[% USE Dumper %] |
| 18:46 |
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rangi |
[% Dumper.dump_html(variable) %] |
| 18:47 |
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rangi |
its a TT interface to Data::Dumper |
| 18:47 |
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rangi |
so you get a nice representation of the object/hash/array etc |
| 18:47 |
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peggy |
so where do you see the dump? |
| 18:47 |
|
rangi |
in the page |
| 18:48 |
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rangi |
often ill put the dump as the first line of the TT |
| 18:49 |
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peggy |
Let me try that... Thanks for helping! |
| 18:49 |
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rangi |
no worries, thanks for writing code :) |
| 18:52 |
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rangi |
http://www.template-toolkit.or[…]/tools/index.html <-- tpage is sometimes handy |
| 18:54 |
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rangi |
http://www.template-toolkit.or[…]Plugin/index.html <-- also a useful reference |
| 18:55 |
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rangi |
http://www.template-toolkit.or[…]lugin/Assert.html <-- if you want the template to throw errors on undefined variables, might be useful for your purpose |
| 19:00 |
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rangi |
@later tell petter can you drop me an email about december when you have the chance please? |
| 19:00 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:08 |
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peggy |
I think that I've messed up my source. Can I refresh it with gitify? If I have extra files in the directory will they still be there? |
| 19:09 |
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rangi |
you dont need to re gitify, if you do git status |
| 19:10 |
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rangi |
it will show you what changes you have |
| 19:10 |
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rangi |
git stash will stash away any changes you have made to files that git tracks |
| 19:10 |
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rangi |
and leave the untracked ones |
| 19:11 |
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rangi |
is that what you are after? |
| 19:11 |
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* rangi |
has to take the kids to school ill be back in a bit |
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| 19:13 |
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peggy |
I need clean copies of the files that I changed. |
| 19:14 |
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rangi |
git stash will do that |
| 19:15 |
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peggy |
fatal: Not a git repository (or any parent up to mount point /home) Stopping at filesystem boundary (GIT_DISCOVERY_ACROSS_FILESYSTEM not set). |
| 19:15 |
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peggy |
This is what it says when I try git status |
| 19:16 |
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peggy |
Do I need to point to the directory or something? |
| 19:19 |
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jcamins |
peggy: you need to be in the directory of your git repository. |
| 19:19 |
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jcamins |
Probably ~/kohaclone |
| 19:20 |
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peggy |
That does the trick |
| 19:40 |
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peggy |
Do I need to do something to make the files writeable? |
| 19:42 |
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jcamins |
What do you mean? |
| 19:42 |
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peggy |
I did a git status and a git stash, but when I try to change one of the files it tells me I don't have permission. |
| 19:42 |
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peggy |
Do I need to chmod the directory? |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
You shouldn't. |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
Is it possible you used sudo or su to change to a different user? |
| 19:44 |
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peggy |
If I change user in a command window, does that effect my gedit window? |
| 19:44 |
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peggy |
(Last worked in unix in 1995....) |
| 19:47 |
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peggy |
Ah, I'm logged in as me, but did the git commands as root. |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
It does not. *But* if you used a user other than your desktop user when working with git, you'd end up with incorrect permissions. |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's what I was thinking it might be. |
| 19:47 |
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peggy |
OK. I'll rerun the git as me |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
You'll need to run `sudo chown ${youruser}:${youruser} -r kohaclone` |
| 19:48 |
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jcamins |
Capital -R, sorry. |
| 19:48 |
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peggy |
OK. |
| 19:52 |
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peggy |
All better. Thanks! |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.9°C (10:05 PM CET on November 03, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:08 |
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cait |
thx huginn |
| 21:08 |
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cait |
huginn botsnack cookie |
| 21:08 |
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huginn |
cait: downloading the Perl source |
| 21:08 |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack huginn's cookie |
| 21:09 |
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cait |
wah |
| 21:09 |
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cait |
no wahanui? |
| 21:11 |
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cait |
eythian: can you bring wahanui back? |
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eythian |
yep |
| 21:13 |
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eythian |
(turns out that if you accidentally leave scrollback active in screen, eventually the process will block.) |
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cait |
thx eythian |
| 21:22 |
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cait |
hi ashimema |
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cait |
it's awfully quiet in here tonight |
| 21:41 |
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eythian |
it often is on Mondays. |
| 21:41 |
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cait |
eythian: where are your coworkers hiding? :) |
| 21:42 |
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eythian |
cait: two are heading over to Australia, and the other is coming in late today. |
| 21:42 |
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cait |
oh what's in australia? another conf? |
| 21:43 |
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eythian |
yeah, something like that. I'm not sure of the details. |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
heh |
| 21:58 |
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dpk1 |
cait and eythian - bugs 6435 and 11078 are dependent (at request of people here, the locking change was broken out). I want to know what's left to get 6435 into the codebase so 11078 can move forward. |
| 21:59 |
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cait |
bug 6435 |
| 21:59 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, dpk, Needs Signoff , [ENH] Added daemon mode parameters to rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 21:59 |
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cait |
hm eythian |
| 21:59 |
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cait |
? |
| 22:00 |
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eythian |
oh! I didn't realise they were dependent, that'll be why my attempt to apply them failed. |
| 22:01 |
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eythian |
it's even marked as such, silly me |
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eythian |
OK, read all of 6435, it seems quite reasonable to me. |
| 22:10 |
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eythian |
Looks like it just needs a signoff and QA. |
| 22:11 |
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eythian |
Note that eventually it would require modification to the packaging cron scripts to operate in daemon mode, but as it doesn't change anything, I'm totally OK with that coming later. |
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dpk1 |
My plan for getting it into the scripts was after we had much more running experience. There have been lots I have have talked to at KohaCon who were interested in running it, but I would not make that the default behavior until a larger group of people had several months of good running. |
| 22:55 |
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eythian |
that's sensible |
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dpk1 |
This will also give the experience to tune the default values. |
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BobB |
g'day #koha |
