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dcook |
Hmm, apparently I am registered as dac...interesting |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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JDatTeTakere |
Hello Koha Comm. Not long until Reno :-) |
| 03:18 |
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dcook |
Nopes. Super close! |
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mtompset |
http://youtu.be/cGYNuoCigGY (I'm Super!) |
| 03:21 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, dcook JDatTeTakere. :) |
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mtompset |
Do you run your Koha installation as https, dcook? |
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dcook |
Some |
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mtompset |
What sort of steps do you take to prevent web attacks? |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
I'm not the network admin. You'd have to ask my boss :p |
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mtompset |
Is your Koha behind a proxy, or straight on the internet? |
| 03:34 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1433 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #1431 17 days ago) |
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| 03:35 |
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JDatTeTakere |
Hi mtompset |
| 03:37 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9611: (follow-up) move new password hashing routines to separate module <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0b407560a1c4f8fb6> |
| 03:37 |
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mtompset |
I hope master builds. My documentation patch made it in, and I got the mail about the failure. I hate when the failure isn't my fault. Sadly, robots don't know better. |
| 03:42 |
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wizzyrea |
it notifies everyone with patches in the build ^.^ |
| 03:42 |
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mtompset |
Exactly. |
| 03:43 |
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mtompset |
Well, NEW patches since the last SUCCESS. |
| 03:43 |
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wizzyrea |
on the other hand, you could do someone a favour and fix the test >.> |
| 03:43 |
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wizzyrea |
yaya, ain't nobody got time for that. |
| 03:44 |
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mtompset |
Well, wouldn't the person who has the broken test have more time? |
| 03:45 |
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wizzyrea |
Would they? |
| 03:45 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #136 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #129 5 days 5 hr ago) |
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mtompset |
Not to mention, it looks like a missing configuration file. |
| 03:48 |
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mtompset |
I don't have access to generate the missing file. |
| 04:02 |
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mtompset |
Well, I just attempted to the same sequence which failed, and it worked this time. |
| 04:02 |
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mtompset |
So hopefully this build works. |
| 04:06 |
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wizzyrea |
oh so you're really just upset because it sends you mail |
| 04:07 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10641 - GetBooksellerWithLateOrders in C4::Bookseller.pm has some incoherences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]413119d3f43de33cf> / Bug 10795: Improvements for GetOpenIssue in C4::Circulation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82e956e579be4bec4> / Bug 10683: (follow-up) improvements to the unit tests <http://git. |
| 04:09 |
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mtompset |
Yes, but like I said... can't blame a robot for not knowing. |
| 04:10 |
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mtompset |
It's one of those helpful annoyances. |
| 04:11 |
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mtompset |
Because inevitably, someday it could be my fault. :) |
| 04:13 |
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mtompset |
@later tell tcohen What do you think of bug 6435 vs. bug 8773? |
| 04:13 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:17 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10794: fix sorting on billing date column in invoices table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8543f9d6582ec4d02> / Bug 11012 - update package dependencies for koha-perldeps <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]68534a249a9f30900> |
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mtompset |
greetings, Oak. |
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Oak |
hello mtompset :) |
| 04:27 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9747: sorting z3950 search results in acquisition <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]538cf030970d10250> / Bug 9747: Fix NSB/NSE sorting issues on z3950 search results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f3f29f83c939274fc> |
| 04:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
| 04:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #136: FIXED in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/136/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Galen Charlton: Bug 9611: (follow-up) move new password hashing routines to separate module |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt |
| 04:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #137 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10430: arrived and stopped status are not possible in serial claim <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4ae67e23ccac98838> / Bug 10430 - status filter not working in serial claims when translated <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]60f9eae6e318b4126> |
| 04:59 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10624: add 'status' option switch for the packages init script <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eeb31acd634cdeb9f> |
| 05:05 |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
| 05:05 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1433: FIXED in 1 hr 31 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1433/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Galen Charlton: Bug 9611: (follow-up) move new password hashing routines to separate module |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt |
| 05:07 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. 5 hours till the meeting, right? |
| 05:07 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1434 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 05:09 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10705: follow-up - change one more instance of "shippment cost" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d0ece4b778ef69273> / Bug 10705: change 'shipment cost' to 'shipping cost' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7be403275afce7f67> |
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eythian |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi :) |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #137: UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/137/ |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10685: remove inappropriate uses of finish in C4::Accounts.pm |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10682: remove inappropriate uses of finish() from C4::Reserves |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10681: remove inappropriate uses of finish() from C4::Circulation |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10711: make GetOfflineOperation() return $sth->fetchrow_hashref instead of $result |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10711: (follow-up) removing tabs |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10685 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of finish() in C4::Accounts.pm |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10698: give C4::Circulation::DeleteTransfer() a return value |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10698: (follow-up) remove now-superfluous FIXME comment |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10682 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of finish() in C4::Reserve.pm |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10683: add unit tests for CRUD routines in C4::Circulation |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 10683: (follow-up) improvements to the unit tests |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10795: Improvements for GetOpenIssue in C4::Circulation |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* root: Bug 10641 - GetBooksellerWithLateOrders in C4::Bookseller.pm has some incoherences |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Robin Sheat: Bug 11012 - update package dependencies for koha-perldeps |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10681 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of finish() in C4::Circulation.pm |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10711 minor, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , GetOfflineOperation in C4/Circulation.pm should returns $sth->fetchrow_hashref instead of $result |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10794: fix sorting on billing date column in invoices table |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 9747: Fix NSB/NSE sorting issues on z3950 search results |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9747: sorting z3950 search results in acquisition |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430 - status filter not working in serial claims when translated |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10698 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , DeleteTransfer in C4::Circulation.pm needs return value |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10683 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , CRUD routines in C4::Circulation need unit tests |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430: arrived and stopped status are not possible in serial claim |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10795 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Improvements for GetOpenIssue in C4::Circulation |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10641 major, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , GetBooksellerWithLateOrders in C4::Bookseller.pm has some incoherences |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11012 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Update dependencies to account for new crypt lib |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10794 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Sorting on billing date column in invoices table doesn't work |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , sort issue for the z3950 results |
| 05:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10430 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , status filter not working in serial claims when translated |
| 05:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #138 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #136 1 hr 40 min ago) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug 6201: (follow-up) update unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b271f2aba4dcee4fb> / Bug 6201: Add fields 1xx to marc2bibtex (for MARC21 and NORMARC) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]680a8ce2950a39fcc> |
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| 06:17 |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
| 06:17 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #138: FIXED in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/138/ |
| 06:17 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10624: add 'status' option switch for the packages init script |
| 06:17 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10705: change 'shipment cost' to 'shipping cost' |
| 06:17 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Katrin Fischer: Bug 10705: follow-up - change one more instance of "shippment cost" |
| 06:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-common.init should implement the 'status' option switch |
| 06:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10705 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , Shipment cost should be 'shipping' |
| 06:17 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #139 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:31 |
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| 06:35 |
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JDatTeTakere |
Hi Magnuse |
| 06:35 |
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magnuse |
kia ora JDatTeTakere |
| 06:36 |
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magnuse |
all stocked up on cat food? |
| 06:37 |
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magnuse |
but first there is an irc meeting |
| 06:37 |
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magnuse |
at not-convenient for nz o'clock, i think |
| 06:37 |
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magnuse |
at not-convenient-for-nz o'clock, i think |
| 06:38 |
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magnuse |
in 3 hours 22 minutes |
| 06:38 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 06:40 |
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JDatTeTakere |
How do you do the *** bit? |
| 06:40 |
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JDatTeTakere |
before you wave? |
| 06:40 |
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cjh |
/me like this |
| 06:40 |
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magnuse |
you do "/me something" |
| 06:40 |
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JDatTeTakere |
I think I went a bit overboard with my catfood shopping. I bought enough for 23 cats. |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1434: SUCCESS in 1 hr 33 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1434/ |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10685: remove inappropriate uses of finish in C4::Accounts.pm |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10682: remove inappropriate uses of finish() from C4::Reserves |
| 06:41 |
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cjh |
I'm sure your cat wouldn't mind eating double for a while, to help you out. |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10681: remove inappropriate uses of finish() from C4::Circulation |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10685 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of finish() in C4::Accounts.pm |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10711: make GetOfflineOperation() return $sth->fetchrow_hashref instead of $result |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10711: (follow-up) removing tabs |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10698: give C4::Circulation::DeleteTransfer() a return value |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10698: (follow-up) remove now-superfluous FIXME comment |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10683: add unit tests for CRUD routines in C4::Circulation |
| 06:41 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 10683: (follow-up) improvements to the unit tests |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kenza Zaki: Bug 10795: Improvements for GetOpenIssue in C4::Circulation |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10682 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of finish() in C4::Reserve.pm |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* root: Bug 10641 - GetBooksellerWithLateOrders in C4::Bookseller.pm has some incoherences |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Robin Sheat: Bug 11012 - update package dependencies for koha-perldeps |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10681 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of finish() in C4::Circulation.pm |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10794: fix sorting on billing date column in invoices table |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 9747: Fix NSB/NSE sorting issues on z3950 search results |
| 06:41 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9747: sorting z3950 search results in acquisition |
| 06:41 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430 - status filter not working in serial claims when translated |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10711 minor, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , GetOfflineOperation in C4/Circulation.pm should returns $sth->fetchrow_hashref instead of $result |
| 06:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430: arrived and stopped status are not possible in serial claim |
| 06:41 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10624: add 'status' option switch for the packages init script |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10698 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , DeleteTransfer in C4::Circulation.pm needs return value |
| 06:41 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10705: change 'shipment cost' to 'shipping cost' |
| 06:41 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin Fischer: Bug 10705: follow-up - change one more instance of "shippment cost" |
| 06:41 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10683 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , CRUD routines in C4::Circulation need unit tests |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10795 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Improvements for GetOpenIssue in C4::Circulation |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10641 major, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , GetBooksellerWithLateOrders in C4::Bookseller.pm has some incoherences |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11012 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Update dependencies to account for new crypt lib |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10794 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Sorting on billing date column in invoices table doesn't work |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , sort issue for the z3950 results |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10430 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , status filter not working in serial claims when translated |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-common.init should implement the 'status' option switch |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10705 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , Shipment cost should be 'shipping' |
| 06:42 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1435 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 06:42 |
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JDatTeTakere |
I will come home from KohaCon13 to 3 obese cats. |
| 06:44 |
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cait |
heh |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p |
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paul_p |
good morning. |
| 06:50 |
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paul_p |
continuing my international month: after Roma last week, Lausanne today, (then Reno on sunday) |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 06:52 |
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magnuse |
paul_p: sounds like fun :-) |
| 06:52 |
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paul_p |
magnuse my wife disagree with you ! |
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paul_p |
;-) |
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* magnuse |
could almost guess that :-) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #139: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/139/ |
| 07:06 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Blou: Bug 6201: Add fields 1xx to marc2bibtex (for MARC21 and NORMARC) |
| 07:06 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 6201: (follow-up) update unit tests |
| 07:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6201 normal, P5 - low, ---, eric.begin, Pushed to Master , BibTeX export does not incude MARC21 main entry |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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rangi |
hi gaetan_B |
| 07:27 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
| 07:27 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on October 09, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising). |
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rangi |
cold night |
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gaetan_B |
salut rangi :) |
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JDatTeTakere |
Fire lit here in Levin rangi |
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kf |
bgkriegel++ :) |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on October 09, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
rangi: you and me both :-) |
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rangi |
heh |
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kf |
hm? |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.8°C (9:55 AM CEST on October 09, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1435: SUCCESS in 1 hr 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1435/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Blou: Bug 6201: Add fields 1xx to marc2bibtex (for MARC21 and NORMARC) |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 6201: (follow-up) update unit tests |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6201 normal, P5 - low, ---, eric.begin, Pushed to Master , BibTeX export does not incude MARC21 main entry |
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kf |
@wunder reno, nevada |
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kf: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 9.5°C (1:00 AM PDT on October 09, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa (Falling). |
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JDatTeTakere |
Will pack warm clothes for Reno then :-) |
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kf |
yeah... layers layers...layers |
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samueld |
hi everybody :-) |
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kf |
hi all |
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kf |
give me a sec and i can start the meeting? |
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jwagner |
no hurry :-) |
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kf |
#startmeeting Koha General IRC Meeting |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Oct 9 10:03:04 2013 UTC. The chair is kf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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huginn |
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kf |
#topic Introductions |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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kf |
please introduce yourself using #info at the beginning of the line |
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kf |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany |
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rangi |
#info chris cormack, catalyst IT |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries |
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drojf |
#info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, only lurking |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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kf |
the agenda for today's meeting is here: |
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kf |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g,_9_October_2013 |
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ColinC |
#info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe, UK |
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jwagner |
#info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
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kf |
let's make this nice and quick :) |
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kf |
#topic Update on 3.8 |
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kf |
chrish is not here I think? |
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kf |
#topic Update on 3.10 |
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kf |
bgkriegel left me a message as he has no time to attend: |
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kf |
"No news from 3.10. No news from TM. good luck all on KohaCon." |
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kf |
I disagree about the TM news, as I think the mail pointing out errors in the existing po files was a great idea |
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kf |
bgkriegel++ :) |
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rangi |
i agree |
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kf |
#topic Update on 3.12 |
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kf |
we have a note from gmcharlt on the wiki |
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rangi |
no tcohen eh? |
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kf |
probably bad timing for argentina |
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rangi |
yep |
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kf |
he pushed lots of patches yesterday |
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kf |
so it looks on track |
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kf |
moving on? |
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tajoli |
Hi, Zeno Tajoli, CINECA |
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kf |
#topic Update 3.14 |
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kf |
quiet meeting so far :) |
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kf |
Citing gmcharlt's message from the wiki: |
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kf |
1. Feature freeze has passed |
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kf |
2. RM's focus is completing feature merges this week |
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kf |
3. RM will be cutting a 3.14 alpha on Monday, 14 October |
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kf |
As qam i can add: please test test test... but I am always going to say that :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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slef |
#info MJ Ray, software.coop (England) |
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kf |
I will concentrate on passing bugfixes when i have time |
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kf |
until the release is out |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, kf. |
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kf |
any questions or comments? |
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BobB |
#info Bob Birchall, Calyx, sorry I'm late |
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JDatTeTakere |
#info JDatTeTakere, NZ |
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kf |
nothng much happened so far :) |
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kf |
moving on ok? |
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tajoli |
I have a question about 3.14 |
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kf |
yes? |
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tajoli |
About bug 7688 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies |
| 10:13 |
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tajoli |
The status is 'passed QA', so how can I help on insert it into master ? |
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rangi |
you can't |
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kf |
I think if you wanted to do additional testing and provide an additional sign off that would be appreciated - but final decision has the RM |
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kf |
and if you do testing, i think writing down what has been tested would be good |
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tajoli |
OK |
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kf |
i have some notes about this bug i still have to post :( |
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kf |
I am worried about some aspects of t |
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kf |
ok to move on? |
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kf |
#topic Roles/elections for 3.16 |
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rangi |
probably time to start thinking about this |
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rangi |
i can start a wiki page |
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kf |
agreed :) |
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kf |
#action rangi to start a wiki page for roles 3.16 |
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kf |
any questions or comments? |
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kf |
hm release is in november |
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* oleonard |
sincerely hopes there's someone crazy enough to apply to be RM |
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kf |
so we only have 1 meeting until then i think iwth the normal schedule? |
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kf |
but having a separate meeting for voting might be good anyway |
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kf |
still, shoudl we set some kind of deadline so we make sure that we have a new team before release? |
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BobB |
we have kohacon/hackfest for some discussion, so we could vote at our next meeting? |
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* kf |
hands out some strong coffee to everyone |
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kf |
I think we could, given there are enough people, but maybe note it somewhere? |
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rangi |
BobB: gotta get nominations first before any one can vote on anything |
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rangi |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.16 |
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kf |
rangi++ |
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kf |
ok, let's see if the page fills up :) |
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kf |
that brings us to... |
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kf |
#topic KohaCon13 |
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kf |
well... it's next week! |
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oleonard |
Yay! |
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JDatTeTakere |
:) |
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BobB |
Is America open? |
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kf |
BobB: hm? |
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oleonard |
The rest of us have to suffer on while the politicians play around with the government |
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kf |
hm should it affect travelling? |
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BobB |
i don't think airports are affected yet? |
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thd |
BobB: The Library of Congress is closed but their backend automated services are still running. |
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JDatTeTakere |
Border control still fully functional |
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oleonard |
Airports won't be affected because Congressmen always have to fly home to raise money |
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wahanui |
oleonard: That doesn't look right. Try 'airport code for CITY' or 'airport name for CODE' instead. |
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kf |
apart from that nancy is not here, but I am quite sure everything is ready us :) |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohacon13/Arrivals |
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kf |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohacon13/Hackfest |
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kf |
We have started a wiki page for the heackest to gather some ideas - please add to it :) |
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kf |
ok, moving on? |
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kf |
#topic KohaCon14 / Actions from last meeting |
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kf |
the only action from last meeting was for drojf to start a survey - which he did :) |
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kf |
drojf++ |
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drojf |
worked alright, clear result in favour of argentina (like ~300:100). Have not had time to put up the final numbers, sorry |
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drojf |
so from now on i hand all over to tcohen and bgkriegel :) |
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kf |
congrats to argentina! :) |
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kf |
ok, i skipped announcement earlier - |
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kf |
#topic Announcements |
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kf |
anything? please? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that anything is possible with enough development work :) |
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kf |
thx wahanui |
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wahanui |
yw |
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kf |
#topic Next meeting |
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kf |
so i think another date well before release on 22nd... maybe first week of november? |
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davidnind |
6th November 2:00 UTC would fit current pattern |
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kf |
davidnind++ |
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kf |
and +1 |
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oleonard |
+1 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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JDatTeTakere |
+1 |
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rangi |
+1 |
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kf |
I think that's the evil time for europe? |
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thd |
+1 |
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drojf |
+1 |
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drojf |
kf: yes |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
so my apologies :) |
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kf |
ok, but still |
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kf |
#agreed Next IRC meeting will be on 6th November 2:00 UTC |
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kf |
any last words before I end the meeting? |
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drojf |
can i delegate my vote? |
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rangi |
for the release team? |
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BobB |
we should allow proxies, for sure |
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rangi |
just write it on the wiki |
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BobB |
+1 |
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drojf |
cool! :) |
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kf |
yeah wiki is good - can see it was your login :) |
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kf |
#info votes can be noted on the wiki |
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thd |
recording something on the wiki seems much less likely to lead to trouble than proxy voting. |
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kf |
hm hope that makes sense |
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drojf |
yes i like the wiki idea |
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kf |
time to end? :) |
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kf |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 9th October, 10:00 UTC |
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Meeting ended Wed Oct 9 10:38:27 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-10-09-10.03.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]3-10-09-10.03.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]09-10.03.log.html |
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BobB |
yes thd, I didn't mean formal proxies, just the idea that one should be able to vote without actually attending |
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davidnind |
kf++ |
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oleonard |
Oh shoot, I was going to propose that we fix RDA before the end of the meeting. |
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kf |
that was easy - you all were so quiet! |
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kf |
oleonard: go stand in the corner :) |
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jwagner |
kf, it's too early in the morning here.... |
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JDatTeTakere |
And too late at night here. |
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kf |
i am missing lunch! |
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kf |
:) |
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jwagner |
so any active mischief is up to the Europeans! |
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tajoli |
quit |
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thd |
BobB: Yes of course, and that will be election day in the US. |
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BobB |
very cool |
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BobB |
Koha RM for president!!! |
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kf |
:) |
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drojf |
kf++ # all hail the chair |
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kf |
heh |
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thd |
BobB: The president is not on the ballot this time but many of those voting to close the government are. |
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BobB |
then let the people speak! |
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kf |
oh nice |
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kf |
we got the first nominee |
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kf |
bgkriegel++ |
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thd |
s/voting to close/not voting to fund/ |
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kf |
bbl |
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* thd |
continues to drift into sleep |
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oleonard |
not voting to fund == voting to close :P |
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what's with all the netsplits lately? or is that only me? |
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BobB |
no, I see it too |
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but I've no idea what it means |
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re |
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* kf |
waves at Joubu |
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Joubu |
hi kf :) |
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kf |
:) |
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* magnuse |
missed the meeting :-( |
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* magnuse |
just came back from a eat-all-you-want sushi lunch :-) |
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oooh |
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magnuse |
is it slightly weird that the emails to the koha-commits list have "main Koha release repository branch master updated. v3.12.00-beta1..." in the subject? |
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magnuse |
not a big deal of course... |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora tcohen |
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tcohen |
@later tell mtompset 8773 is the addition of an init script to the packages, it could be adjusted to launch 6435 instead of Tamil's, the answer would be "they fit together well" |
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tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
druthb! |
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wahanui |
Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
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druthb |
magnuse! |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #244: "'If you really didn't do it yourself, then yes, the only other conclusion is you were/are hacked by someone who likes to upgrade Koha'" (added by mtj at 10:37 PM, April 30, 2013) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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rambutan |
hi mtompset |
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mtompset |
Greetings, rambutan. :) |
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druthb |
Hi, mtompset. :) |
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mtompset |
Hey, druthb. |
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rambutan |
morning druthb |
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mtompset |
Greetings, bgkriegel. |
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bgkriegel |
Hi mtompset |
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tcohen |
hi bgkriegel |
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* mtompset |
anxiously awaits a full reindex. |
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mtompset |
We're moving our QA system today. |
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mtompset |
This could be glorious or painful. I'm hoping for the former. So far so good. |
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mtompset |
woo hoo! glorious! |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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mtompset |
I successfully ran a full reindex with no "malformed tags" error. |
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mtompset |
The same error generated in our old VM environment. |
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mtompset |
using the SAME data. |
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mtompset |
I knew it was vserver! I knew it! |
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mtompset |
vserver-- # In your face, vserver virtualization technology! |
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rambutan |
so are you running a different vm or are you on bare metal now? |
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mtompset |
It's a different VM now. |
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mtompset |
We are in the midst of switching host providers. |
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rambutan |
ah |
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tcohen |
@later tell eythian would you approve using update-perl-sax-parser during install/update to set the right sax parser? we currently don't care |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: no objection from me, but I'd almost perform requiring a minimum version of 1.0.1 for MARC::File::XML to side-step the entire problem |
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gmcharlt |
that would mean backporting that version from jessie to squeeze and wheezy, though |
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gmcharlt |
s/perform/prefer/ |
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tcohen |
backporting that version would mean it doesn't matter which sax parser is set? |
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gmcharlt |
correct |
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tcohen |
ok, we need to talk with eythian then |
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gmcharlt |
also makes MARCXML parsing faster in general |
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kivilahtio |
wow. I have added support for BranchTransferLimits, regarding Holds to the OPAC and staff client |
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kivilahtio |
just need to test it more and package it for nice tidy patches |
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kivilahtio |
tomorrow will dig into modifying the holds targeting functionality build_holds_queue.pl |
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kivilahtio |
cool :) |
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kivilahtio |
but internally the holds-bits seem to be a mess, especially the templates need rework. |
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kivilahtio |
with mess I mean the naming conventions are not very helpful. I know one is not supposed to change variable names, but sometimes they are frankly misleading |
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kivilahtio |
like $item, which turns out to be a items.itemnumber instead of a items-row |
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kivilahtio |
ofc would be nice if someone could have the time to do some Sign Offs when the time comes |
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kivilahtio |
btw. the ability to place holds on multiple biblios for specific items is a challenge to overcome, or modify. |
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kivilahtio |
but, thanks for Koha everyone. C u later |
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tcohen |
ubuntu packages? |
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tcohen |
packages? |
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wahanui |
packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: i'll post instructions for properly changing ubuntu'ss default sax parser |
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gmcharlt |
K |
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tcohen |
(i.e. avoiding an update to revert the changes) |
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mtompset |
ubuntu? |
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wahanui |
i think ubuntu is a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions. |
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mtompset |
tcohen: Changing default sax parser? |
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mtompset |
Why is that step now relevant? |
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mtompset |
which sax parser is the right one? |
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mtompset |
Okay, I see the instruction tweaks. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. :) |
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cait |
hi mtompset, hi #koha |
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tcohen |
mtompset: if you install koha-common, and then run misc/sax_parser_test.pl you'll notice it fails |
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mtompset |
Yes, but I was informed that shouldn't matter. |
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tcohen |
that's not clear to me |
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tcohen |
i belive for tar.gz / git setups it is mandatory |
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tcohen |
and I don't see why it shouldn't for packages |
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mtompset |
Actually, I think the reason was historically, because one of the SAX parsers which became default was buggy, and this was to get around that. |
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tcohen |
yes but... i was told once that pureperl (for instance) was a buggy choice for Koha |
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mtompset |
However, my understanding was that this problem has resolved itself with new versions of the parsers. |
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gmcharlt |
buggy and slow |
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mtompset |
Yes, I do vaguely recall that. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: on the package installations I have, Koha consistently uses the correct SAX parser without my doing anything. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: did you run misc/sax_parser_test.pl ? |
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jcamins |
No. |
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tcohen |
maybe Koha chooses the right one, i know nothing about this |
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tcohen |
i just saw an inconsistency in our docs |
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tcohen |
and also saw there was a command line method for setting the desried parser on debian |
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tcohen |
(a user-friendly one, without editing stuff) |
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tcohen |
i volunteer to fix documentation on this once we reach a consensus about the subject during the hackfest |
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tcohen |
or a midnight beer |
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* cait |
bought beer today... |
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cait |
it was a weird day. |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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mtompset |
bye, tcohen. |
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cait |
bye tcohen |
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mtompset |
jcamins: I have gotten it to use the wrong one (accidentally) when doing a tarball install. |
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kathryn |
morning all :) |
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kathryn |
morning, evening, howdy |
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cait |
morning :) |
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rangi |
its a gorgeously sunny day outside |
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rangi |
so i give you this |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD0xliH_jGQ |
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wizzyrea |
nice one |
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pug |
its unusually silent here! |
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cait |
it is |
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pianohacker |
hooola |
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cait |
hi pianohacker |
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pug |
I had a question regarding using the word 'koha' |
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pug |
is it wrong if a hosting service is named 'nkoha' or something |
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pug |
? |
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cait |
pug: take a look at the guidelines |
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cait |
they are on the wiki |
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cait |
m website |
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rangi |
not if its using actual koha, and is open and clear about that it is hosting koha, and that they didnt make/own koha (no more than anyone else did anyway) |
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cait |
:) |
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pug |
:) |
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pug |
let me lookup |
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jcamins |
rangi: I thought the guidelines were "don't use Koha in your domain name, period"? |
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pug |
cait: could you possibly help with a link? |
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rangi |
they didnt say domain name |
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cait |
http://koha-community.org/abou[…]-usage-agreement/ |
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cait |
we have something here |
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jcamins |
rangi: oh. You're right. Never mind. |
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wizzyrea |
lawyers prefer KOHA, clearly. |
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magnuse |
just dont't write KOHA :-) |
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bag |
:P |
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rangi |
the reason its written there as KOHA not Koha is because trademarks are usually uppercased |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
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cait |
or KoHa |
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cait |
... |
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rangi |
but yeah, its a word not an acronym |
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jcamins |
cait: unless its your karate yell. |
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magnuse |
http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]-the-list-kohails ;-) |
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mtompset |
jcamins++ # loved the humour. :) |
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pug |
oops.. where did this discussion take us! |
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pug |
cait: thanks that helps! |
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jcamins |
pug: depends. Are you at the gym practicing your right-left and left-right jabs on the punching bag shouting "Ko! Ha! Ko! Ha!" If not, not nearly as far as I might've hoped. |
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pug |
RIght now Im not .. but clearly I must try the drill out next time i go jab-cross! |
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rangi |
pug: are you thinking of offering a hosting service (cos that would be cool, the more the merrier) |
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eythian |
hi |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
@later tell tcohen do we need to care about the SAX parser? I had the impression that it no longer made any difference. |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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mtompset |
eythian: I think we may care if it somehow gets set to pureperl's version. |
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eythian |
hmm, possibly. I'm reluctant to change configuration. Detecting it might be OK though. |
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eythian |
*would be OK |
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mtompset |
Well, tcohen has added three lines of commands into the ubuntu packages instructions, and i don't see why they would be a problem to execute. |
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mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]efault_XML_parser |
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eythian |
mtompset: because it might break other things on the server. |
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eythian |
Making mysterious configuration changes outside our own packages is frowned upon. |
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mtompset |
I understand. |
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mtompset |
The question is how many people run everything on the same server? If only Koha is running on the server, it is okay to do that. |
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rangi |
no |
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rangi |
its never ok to do that in packages |
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rangi |
if we ever want to get the packages into debian proper, and we do, we need to do things the debian way |
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mtompset |
Ah. |
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rangi |
and that means you dont change system wide settings |
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eythian |
also, it's not for us to say who uses their server for what. |
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rangi |
and that |
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rangi |
i like gmcharlt's solution better |
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eythian |
Detecting it and notifying would be OK. |
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rangi |
using the 1.0.1 of MARC::File::XML |
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rangi |
which makes this moot |
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jcamins |
Has anyone managed to trigger a problem with the other SAX parsers with packages? |
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rangi |
not me jcamins |
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jcamins |
Nor have I. |
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mtompset |
with packages? I don't think so. |
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jcamins |
I've gotten stacktraces from the desired SAX parser, though. |
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jcamins |
So why are we still wasting time on this? |
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eythian |
In fact, if someone has changed their config such that they have a different parser, there is almost certainly a reason they wanted to do that. |
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gmcharlt |
there is still a speed improvement to consider |
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rangi |
well upgrading to new marc::file::xml also will make it faster |
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rangi |
what he said |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: have you gotten the packages to use the incorrect SAX parser? |
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rangi |
i think focusing on upgrading, which has the side effect of making this whole thing moot |
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rangi |
even with tarballs |
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mtompset |
I can't seem to cpan2deb MARC::File::XML |
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rangi |
is a better way to spend effort |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: I don't know and don't particularly care, as I always install MARC::File::XML from CPAN anyway |
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gmcharlt |
and will continue to do so until the patckages catch up |
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jcamins |
I install it from packages, and I have never seen the packages not use the correct SAX parser. |
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rangi |
they wont |
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rangi |
unless you set them to |
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rangi |
because the packages depend on the correct sax parser |
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rangi |
you can override by editing the /etc file |
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rangi |
but thats your choice and you should be allowed to do it |
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rangi |
so in short nothing needs to be done with the packages |
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rangi |
however, packaging a newer MARC::File::XML is still good |
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mtompset |
+1 to that. I'm not having success trying to package it for myself. :( |
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rangi |
because it's faster than the old one |
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dcook |
Does anyone know which page Galen modified with an update on 3.14? |
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dcook |
Nevermind... |
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dcook |
Silly me |
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gmcharlt |
err... |
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gmcharlt |
:) |
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dcook |
Actually... |
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dcook |
Nope, still not seeing it |
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mtompset |
Greetings, dcook tcohen. |
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dcook |
hey mtompset |
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wahanui |
mtompset is fighting a test writing learning curve to get code in before feature slush. |
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mtompset |
I need to change that again. |
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mtompset |
Now I'm fighting a distribution roll. |
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gmcharlt |
dcook: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g,_9_October_2013 |
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mtompset |
Trying to figure out where it failed, so that I can fix it, and get it out the door. |
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dcook |
gmcharlt: Ah. |
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dcook |
That makes sense |
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dcook |
Thanks ;) |
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dcook |
My brain hasn't been working too well the past day or so |
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dcook |
Must still think it's the long weekend |
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* gmcharlt |
would like to share the delusion ;) |
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dcook |
Self-delusion is pretty great ^_^ |
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tcohen |
mtompset: distribution roll? |
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mtompset |
building a koha .deb |
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mtompset |
problem is there's some test failing somewhere, and it isn't obvious where. |
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tcohen |
didn't i send you my instructions? |
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tcohen |
oh, you said building, not populating the repo |
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mtompset |
I'm using the easy way instructions from the wiki |
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tcohen |
i'll put on the wiki the steps I follow to have our own repo |
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mtompset |
DOH! found it. |
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tcohen |
which you could try :-P |
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* mtompset |
grumbles about updatedatabase.pl |
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mtompset |
why is DBD::Mock 1.43 considered too old?! |
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mtompset |
That's the default for wheezy. |
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jcamins |
Because it's too old. |
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mtompset |
But wheezy is the latest stable, why would the packages in the default repos for wheezy be considered too old? |
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jcamins |
Because they have bugs. |
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* mtompset |
sighs. Okay, working around it. |
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mtompset |
cpan2deb DBD::Mock. |
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eythian |
http://zgp.org/targeted-advert[…]nsidered-harmful/ |
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eythian |
We'd like to stick with the wheezy versions unless it's totally impossible. Maintain custom modules carries some overhead with it. |
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tcohen |
omfgh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noq8FYvRqgs#t=70 |
