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rangi |
hmm |
| 07:31 |
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| 07:31 |
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busla |
hey everyone.. just found your amazing ILS |
| 07:33 |
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busla |
I have a question about MARCXML .. are people generally using that format to import data, or just regular MARC21? |
| 07:34 |
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busla |
I´ve got a huge Excel file with Title, Author, Pub and Year.. that I´m preparing to import to Koha and wondering if I should parse it and convert to MARCXML |
| 07:35 |
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rangi |
you could you can convert that easily to iso2709 |
| 07:35 |
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rangi |
koha can handle marc21, unimarc or normarc |
| 07:35 |
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busla |
ahh ok.. so no MARCXML yet |
| 07:35 |
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rangi |
marcxml isnt a flavour of marc |
| 07:35 |
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rangi |
its just a storage mechanism |
| 07:36 |
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rangi |
you can store any flavour of marc in it |
| 07:37 |
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rangi |
and yep, you can send marcxml to bulkmarcimport |
| 07:38 |
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rangi |
but like i said, you still have to decide what flavour of marc you are using, that is immaterial to the storage format you choose |
| 07:39 |
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busla |
well, I haven´t taken a proper look at that yet.. I´m just starting and have this Excel sheet to work with |
| 07:39 |
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busla |
I guess I´ll use whatever Koha recommends |
| 07:40 |
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rangi |
it doesnt recommend anything thats entirely up to you |
| 07:41 |
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rangi |
its probably best to use the flavour of marc that the libraries around you use |
| 07:42 |
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rangi |
so whether you store it as MARCXML or ISO2709 you still have to decide that |
| 07:43 |
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busla |
well, it´s a small library that has everything catalogued in Excel and I offered to move it to a standardized format and an online access |
| 07:43 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 07:43 |
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busla |
so .. I guess I´ll read the docs about which MARC is appropriate |
| 07:44 |
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rangi |
yep but not the koha docs |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
its not a koha thing :) its a what your country uses, and what you want to use thing |
| 07:45 |
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busla |
right |
| 07:46 |
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rangi |
i have no idea what belgium uses |
| 07:46 |
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rangi |
i know france is UNIMARC |
| 07:46 |
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rangi |
germany is MAB/MARC21 |
| 07:48 |
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busla |
great, thanks. |
| 07:48 |
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busla |
what´s your opinion on MARCXML versus ISO2709 |
| 07:48 |
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busla |
? |
| 07:51 |
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rangi |
i suspect that if you go with UNIMARC iso2709 is easier |
| 07:52 |
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rangi |
but im not sure |
| 07:52 |
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rangi |
both iso2709 and MARCXML are horrid |
| 07:52 |
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rangi |
but MARCXML doesnt have the length limitation that iso2709 does |
| 07:53 |
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rangi |
however you are unlikely to run into that problem unless you have a biblio record with masses of items attached |
| 07:56 |
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busla |
thanks for the info |
| 07:57 |
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magnuse |
i find it easier to get the encoding right when i use marcxml, but that might just be me |
| 08:00 |
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busla |
also the interoperability of the format is why I´m considering it |
| 08:00 |
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rangi |
it only matters until you import it |
| 08:00 |
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rangi |
koha stores everything as both marcxml and iso2709 anyway |
| 08:01 |
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rangi |
just pick whatever is easiest to do your conversion with |
| 08:01 |
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busla |
ahh ok.. so the storage is only before I import, gotcha. Koha does not store it in MARCXML |
| 08:01 |
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busla |
oops |
| 08:01 |
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busla |
didn´t read that properly |
| 08:01 |
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busla |
it stores both |
| 08:02 |
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busla |
I guess the most comfortable method for me is to convert this CSV file to MARCXML with a python script |
| 08:02 |
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busla |
I guess there are some libs out there |
| 08:03 |
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busla |
might even be a conversion lib to iso2709 |
| 08:03 |
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rangi |
pymarc |
| 08:07 |
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busla |
wow great, and it´s active |
| 08:24 |
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busla |
ok, Belgium seems to be using UNIMARC .. but I´m not sure. I only found one source that mentions it. |
| 08:25 |
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busla |
just so I understand this correctly, my process would be: Convert from CSV to MARCXML/ISO2709 -> Import to Koha as UNIMARC ? |
| 08:25 |
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rangi |
are you in the flemish or french speaking part ? |
| 08:25 |
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busla |
flamish |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
ahh, yeah not sure then |
| 08:26 |
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busla |
but just arrived here, I´m actually from ICeland |
| 08:26 |
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busla |
:Ã |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
if it was french, then UNIMARC would make sense |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
katrin would know, but she isnt here |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
or irma |
| 08:29 |
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busla |
ok |
| 08:29 |
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busla |
INTERMARC is mentioned also.. |
| 08:29 |
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busla |
which is used by the french national library... but they also export to UNIMARC |
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| 08:56 |
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cait |
hi #koha |
| 08:57 |
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rangi |
cait: do you know what marc standard they use in belgium? |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
um. no? |
| 08:58 |
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wahanui |
http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
is it a trick question? |
| 08:59 |
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rangi |
nope just busla is about to do a conversion |
| 09:01 |
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cait |
i think i'd heck the z39.50 sources he can use from national library and such |
| 09:03 |
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busla |
hey.. |
| 09:03 |
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busla |
still here :-) |
| 09:04 |
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cait |
hi busla |
| 09:04 |
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cait |
i have seen this allows to export marcxml http://www.bib.belgium.be/?uilang=nl |
| 09:04 |
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cait |
which owuld be marc21 |
| 09:04 |
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cait |
but no idea about other catalogs |
| 09:05 |
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busla |
I´ll look at this.. although I don´t speak dutch :-/ |
| 09:05 |
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cait |
oh |
| 09:05 |
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cait |
sorry |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
me neither |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
i followed the links here: http://www.kbr.be/catalogues/catalogues_nl.html |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
just trying to see what export formats would be offered |
| 09:07 |
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busla |
right.. |
| 09:07 |
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busla |
I´m going to repost a question I asked earlier: just so I understand this correctly, my process would be: Convert from CSV to MARCXML/ISO2709 -> Import to Koha as UNIMARC ? |
| 09:07 |
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busla |
UNIMARC/MARC21 |
| 09:09 |
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cait |
yes |
| 09:09 |
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cait |
but you will have to pick UNIMARC or MARC21 - both are quite different |
| 09:09 |
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cait |
my guess would be marc21 |
| 09:09 |
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cait |
but might be worth if you do some research there |
| 09:09 |
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cait |
what other libraries you want to use data from offer as a format |
| 09:10 |
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busla |
I´ll talk to the librarian that speaks dutch :-) I´m only here to setup the ILS |
| 09:10 |
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busla |
can I get remote metadata about titles? |
| 09:11 |
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busla |
by querying the ISBN number? |
| 09:11 |
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busla |
or just the titles even? |
| 09:11 |
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cait |
yeah, you are looking for z39.50 targets |
| 09:11 |
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busla |
right |
| 09:12 |
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busla |
that would be neccessary since the catalogue is an Excel sheet with only Title, Author, Pub and Date |
| 09:13 |
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cait |
irspy might have some |
| 09:13 |
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cait |
irspy? |
| 09:13 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it irspy is a good source for identifying Z39.50 targets. See http://irspy.indexdata.com |
| 09:13 |
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busla |
I need alot of meta with that to make the ILS useful |
| 09:13 |
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busla |
ok, will take a look |
| 09:20 |
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busla |
any Z39.50 linux clients you recommend? |
| 09:21 |
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cait |
i think yaz is the one |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
the problem is that you probably will get multiple results |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
koha has a client too - how bib is the collection? |
| 09:23 |
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busla |
8000 titles in total... a small library and then an archive in another location |
| 09:23 |
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busla |
it´s all kinds of stuff, most of it does not exist in public libraries |
| 09:24 |
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busla |
pamphlets, radical magazines, even posters |
| 09:24 |
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cait |
might be hard to find those online then |
| 09:24 |
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cait |
teh problem is that identifying the right record could be hard |
| 09:24 |
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cait |
might be necessary to do that later manually |
| 09:25 |
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busla |
right.. I was hoping to get some meta with the books that were published |
| 09:25 |
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busla |
but other than that.. it´s all manual indexing |
| 09:25 |
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cait |
yeah but even with an isbn you might get multiple hits |
| 09:25 |
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cait |
different editions |
| 09:25 |
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busla |
ahh ok |
| 09:26 |
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busla |
I might just use Koha then... when the items have been imported |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
but might be worth doing some tests |
| 09:26 |
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busla |
will Koha try to match local items with remote items if I set up a Z39.50 connection? |
| 09:29 |
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cait |
it's a manual process in Koha |
| 09:29 |
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cait |
meant for cataloguing new items |
| 09:29 |
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cait |
so when you go an dhave a new item, you search external sources for metadata, then can enhance and change it locally etc. |
| 09:30 |
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busla |
ahhh that´s nice |
| 09:30 |
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busla |
is there a way to have "suggestions" from external sources when you view an item? |
| 09:31 |
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cait |
so not right what you need now, but should make things easier later |
| 09:31 |
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busla |
for sure |
| 09:31 |
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cait |
hm not so much |
| 09:31 |
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cait |
you can overwrite existing records... open them in cataloguing and search... but that's not what you mean I guess |
| 09:33 |
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busla |
what I´m thinking is a setting where you configure a remote Z39.50 host to pull in suggestions from that host when you view a local item... |
| 09:34 |
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busla |
that way staff could continuously be updating local items if the remote host has an item that matches |
| 09:35 |
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busla |
even if it would bring in duplicates |
| 09:35 |
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busla |
or several items that have the same title.. |
| 09:35 |
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busla |
maybe the critaria would be that the title and author would match |
| 09:35 |
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busla |
maybe one day... |
| 09:35 |
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busla |
:) |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
:) |
| 10:48 |
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busla |
no docs with Pymarc :-/ |
| 10:48 |
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busla |
https://github.com/edsu/pymarc |
| 10:58 |
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cait |
are you looking for tools to convert csv to marc? |
| 11:00 |
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busla |
csv -> marcxml |
| 11:00 |
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busla |
but the format is pretty straightforward.. I think I´ll just write out the marcxml format myself |
| 11:01 |
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busla |
one of the reasons I want to use marcxml |
| 11:01 |
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busla |
:) |
| 11:01 |
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busla |
only three syntaxes |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
yeah, it's probably easier |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
and then convert that later |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
have an eye on the controlfields |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
those are a bit complicatd but used for search |
| 11:02 |
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cait |
LDR, 007 |
| 11:03 |
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busla |
the index I´m using is so primitive, it´s only four columns in a CSV file (Title, Author, Pub, Year) |
| 11:03 |
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busla |
so I´ll only be writing out those fields |
| 11:03 |
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cait |
ah and 008 - pos. 7-10 - you will want to put the publication year there too in addition to 260$c |
| 11:03 |
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cait |
yeah, but make the best of it? :) |
| 11:03 |
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cait |
this 008 position is used for the publication date range search, so nice to have if you know it now :) |
| 11:03 |
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busla |
yes :-) |
| 11:04 |
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busla |
ahh ok |
| 11:11 |
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busla |
not easy to find a marc21 cheatsheet around .. |
| 11:11 |
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busla |
yes: http://www.statemuseum.arizona[…]_marcformat.shtml |
| 11:15 |
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cait |
busla: http://loc.gov/marc |
| 11:16 |
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cait |
i think you'll need 245$a, 100$a, 260 |
| 11:21 |
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busla |
nice.. thanks for posting |
| 11:29 |
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busla |
so the "$a" suffix in 245$a means that it can have several titles? |
| 11:30 |
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busla |
ahh .. subfield cosed |
| 11:30 |
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busla |
codes |
| 11:30 |
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busla |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd100.html |
| 11:36 |
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cait |
busla: if you look at the standard, there is NR (non repeatable) and R (repeatable) behind the fields |
| 11:36 |
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cait |
$a is just the title |
| 11:37 |
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busla |
right.. I´m looking at 005 now .. |
| 11:37 |
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busla |
the description doesn´t really explain what it means... |
| 11:38 |
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busla |
last edited? |
| 11:39 |
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busla |
or are all 00x fields rendered by the system from other fields? |
| 11:41 |
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busla |
I think I need to spend some time reading the MARC docs :-) http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/ |
| 11:50 |
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cait |
don't go insane :) |
| 11:51 |
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cait |
busla: sorry, not rendered |
| 11:51 |
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cait |
koha offers plugins to make it easier to catalog them, but they are really codes |
| 11:51 |
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cait |
marc is a bit insane. |
| 11:51 |
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cait |
you don't really need all of it, but there are some interesting as koha actually makes use of them, like the normalized publication year in 008 |
| 11:52 |
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cait |
ah and last edited gets autofilled in Koha.... because noone wants to type that of course |
| 11:53 |
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busla |
I´m excited :-) |
| 11:53 |
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busla |
I will (hopefully) be running Koha on a Raspberry Pi .. might even try to use something lighter than Apache |
| 11:53 |
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busla |
we´ll see |
| 11:54 |
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busla |
but I seem to be taking the role of the actual librarian here.. which I shouldn´t .. but to some extent... I need to |
| 11:54 |
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busla |
the 008 is insane :-) haha |
| 12:04 |
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busla |
cait: have you heard about any projects where people have been importing titles from arbitrary indexes and then updating the records in Koha from a remotez |
| 12:04 |
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busla |
z |
| 12:04 |
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busla |
... Z39.50 targets? |
| 12:04 |
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cait |
busla: you should talk to drojf maybe |
| 12:05 |
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cait |
but i think koha on raspi is not going to be very fast |
| 12:05 |
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cait |
but he did it |
| 12:05 |
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cait |
with some optimizations i think - maybe using nginx and plack |
| 12:05 |
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cait |
i think lots of people are doing it, lots of it in the mailign archives |
| 12:06 |
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cait |
some are using marcedit, but i think if you can program you are more flexible |
| 12:06 |
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busla |
right.. it would be headless so I have 512mb RAM |
| 12:07 |
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busla |
I´ll look at the archives |
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* cait |
waves at Oak and Dyrcona |
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| 19:15 |
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busla |
hey all.. does anyone know how ISBN fits in the realm of bibliographic formats? I´ve been trying to wrap my head around the MARC format today and now stumbled upon ISBN. |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
022 |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
hm or 020 |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
@marc 020 |
| 19:16 |
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huginn |
cait: The ISBN assigned to a monographic publication by designated agencies in each country participating in the program. The field may include terms of availability and canceled or invalid ISBNs. It may be repeated for multiple numbers associated with the item (e.g., ISBNs for the hard bound and paperback manifestations; ISBNs for a set as a whole and for the individual parts in the set). (Repeatable) (1 more message) |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
right issn is 022 :) |
| 19:17 |
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busla |
ok.. so it´s a subset of MARC? |
| 19:17 |
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busla |
my impression was that it´s a different format |
| 19:18 |
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busla |
ahh .. sorry |
| 19:18 |
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busla |
ISBD |
| 19:18 |
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busla |
my mistake.. it was a typo |
| 19:18 |
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busla |
http://www.ifla.org/publicatio[…]aphic-description |
| 19:19 |
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busla |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I[…]aphic_Description |
| 19:19 |
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cait |
hm |
| 19:19 |
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cait |
the punctuation in marc is isbd |
| 19:19 |
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cait |
i think it goes back to printing catalog cards |
| 19:19 |
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cait |
.. somehow |
| 19:20 |
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cait |
no sane person would include punctuaton in a new format today (at least i hope so) :) |
| 19:24 |
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busla |
I´m not sure I follow.. is it the same format, but simpler? |
| 19:24 |
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busla |
fewer codes? |
| 19:24 |
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cait |
it's not really the same thing |
| 19:24 |
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cait |
but i am not sure i can explain it :( |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
i guess isbd is more human readable... while marc21 was thought to be machine readable |
| 19:25 |
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busla |
ahh ok |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
and isbd is a bit mixed into marc21 |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
where is jcamins when you need him? |
| 19:40 |
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wizzyrea |
MARC is a digital format for library metadata, MARCXML is an XML based variant of MARC, ISBD is a standard for actually describing and expressing bibliographic data |
| 19:40 |
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wizzyrea |
as far as I understand it |
| 19:41 |
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wizzyrea |
or you could just read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARC_standards |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
wizzyrea for the rescue :) |
| 19:42 |
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busla |
ok.. so I guess I can store records in MARC21 using Koha and then have the online catalogue display the records as ISBD? |
| 19:42 |
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wizzyrea |
If you want, but ISBD is really old school. |
| 19:42 |
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busla |
that WP article has limited info |
| 19:42 |
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wizzyrea |
have you looked at demo kohas? |
| 19:43 |
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busla |
yes |
| 19:43 |
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wizzyrea |
but it has excellent links |
| 19:43 |
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wizzyrea |
but sure, you can make koha display ISBD if you want to |
| 19:43 |
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wizzyrea |
it's just not very pretty ;) |
| 19:44 |
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busla |
thanks :-) |
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tcohen |
Hijo #koha |
| 19:53 |
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tcohen |
*Hi |
| 19:54 |
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tcohen |
es keyboard |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
| 20:00 |
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tcohen |
Hi cait |
| 20:00 |
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tcohen |
Waiting for my Sunday tennis partner |
| 20:00 |
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tcohen |
Just remembered I had irc on the phone |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
hm why do we have waiting date on the reserve slip when it doesn't print? :( |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
tcohen: :) |
| 20:01 |
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tcohen |
How are you doing? |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
good, kind of a lazy weekend with lots of sleep :) |
| 20:02 |
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cait |
and some walking in the forrest |
| 20:03 |
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tcohen |
:-) |
| 20:04 |
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cait |
ok :( the docs i have been writing are hidden in a broken odt now... |
| 20:04 |
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* cait |
is having some bad luck today |
| 20:06 |
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tcohen |
Its a zip file with a bunch of xml |
| 20:06 |
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tcohen |
Court ready, gotta leave, good luck cait! |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
thx tcohen :) |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
you too! |
| 20:18 |
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wizzyrea |
cait I don't understand your question |
| 20:18 |
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cait |
? |
| 20:18 |
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wizzyrea |
about the waiting date? |
| 20:19 |
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cait |
we have it in the default template |
| 20:19 |
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cait |
but it doesn't print |
| 20:19 |
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cait |
i am revamping the german templates for slips |
| 20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
gotta be a bug |
| 20:19 |
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cait |
probably |
| 20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
something to do with reservestatus maybe? |
| 20:19 |
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cait |
? |
| 20:20 |
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wizzyrea |
nm forget I said anything ;) |
| 20:24 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: getting late here - i might not make much sense :) |
| 20:24 |
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cait |
hm |
| 20:24 |
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cait |
no transport slip. |
| 20:24 |
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cait |
oh |
| 20:25 |
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cait |
hidden window... yeah i am not making sense |
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cait |
hm when you try to repeat printing of a transport script by doing another check in.... you get a normal reserve slip |
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cait |
that intended? |
| 20:26 |
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cait |
oh forgot I asked.. I think I don't wnat to know that tonight |
| 20:26 |
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wizzyrea |
yep because the transit is complete |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
yeah, but... it's not nice |
| 20:29 |
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rangi |
plugins are in 3.12 eh? |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
yes |
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rangi |
cool thanks |
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* cait |
thinks it would be cool if we could print barcodes on the slips :) |
| 20:30 |
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cait |
but yeah, limited use case, thinking of ILL items |
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cait |
tansports are weird. |
| 20:34 |
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cait |
are we sure those work? |
| 20:34 |
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wizzyrea |
transits? |
| 20:34 |
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wizzyrea |
what issue are you having? |
| 20:34 |
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cait |
hm those yes |
| 20:35 |
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cait |
i deleted the hold |
| 20:35 |
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cait |
then i made a new one |
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cait |
for pickup at another library than i am logged in at |
| 20:35 |
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cait |
then i check in the item |
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cait |
and i get 2 messages |
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cait |
well 2 |
| 20:36 |
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wizzyrea |
yep that's "normal" |
| 20:36 |
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cait |
Please return Handbuch der Religionspädagogik. to CentervillePrint slip or Cancel transfer |
| 20:36 |
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cait |
and a second blue box with: |
| 20:36 |
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wizzyrea |
there's a bug for that. |
| 20:36 |
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cait |
Hold found: Handbuch der Religionspädagogik. Hold for: Admin, Koha (1) |
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cait |
Transfer to: Centerville |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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cait |
and both don't print the transport slip |
| 20:36 |
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cait |
but a reserveslip |
| 20:37 |
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wizzyrea |
right, when you transport for a hold, it prints a reserve slip |
| 20:37 |
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wizzyrea |
that says "transit to xxx" |
| 20:37 |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
um no |
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cait |
the transit to appears only on the slip for transports |
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cait |
well transits |
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rangi |
transfers |
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wahanui |
transfers are totally independent of holds |
| 20:37 |
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cait |
ok, I might just be too confused for this :( |
| 20:37 |
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wizzyrea |
double messages is nothing new though |
| 20:38 |
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rangi |
is the word |
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cait |
lol thx rangi |
| 20:38 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry transfers. |
| 20:38 |
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rangi |
not transits or transports |
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rangi |
:) |
| 20:38 |
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cait |
transfer transfer transfer *writes it down a few times* |
| 20:39 |
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wizzyrea |
anyway, doing hold gymnastics with things already in transits is usually troublesome. |
| 20:39 |
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wizzyrea |
already being transferred, sorry. |
| 20:40 |
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cait |
hmm |
| 20:40 |
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cait |
i will make sure to use anotheritem :) |
| 20:41 |
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wizzyrea |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8451 |
| 20:41 |
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huginn |
Bug 8451: minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Confusing and problematic double prompt for processing transfers |
| 20:41 |
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wizzyrea |
and bug 9322 |
| 20:41 |
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wahanui |
bug 9322 is going to be rear its head a lot more when bug 8292 is pushed. |
| 20:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9322 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , If multiple transfers exist (from circ/branchtransfers.pl), completing one completes them all |
| 20:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8292 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , clicking ignore on hold cancels transfer |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
hm all 3 look pretty non-alive :( |
| 20:44 |
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wizzyrea |
yep because nobody wants to spend the time to properly fix it. They just want to fix the symptoms. |
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cait |
I think probably they don't know how to fix it right |
| 20:45 |
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wizzyrea |
bc nobody wants to pay for that kind of plumbing work. |
| 20:45 |
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cait |
funding bigger projects... always the issue |
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cait |
not sure how to do it |
| 20:45 |
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wizzyrea |
funding projects that aren't "add this feature from my old ILS" |
| 20:46 |
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rangi |
yes |
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cait |
you don't have to tell me :) |
| 20:46 |
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rangi |
THAT |
| 20:46 |
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wizzyrea |
bravery and audacity people! |
| 20:46 |
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rangi |
koha is not a cheap replacement for your old proprietary pile of crap |
| 20:46 |
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rangi |
stop trying to make it that |
| 20:46 |
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wizzyrea |
^ so much this |
| 20:46 |
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rangi |
it's much better than that, if you let it be |
| 20:47 |
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cait |
the bad thing is - that our libraries would just want that too - because holds around here are supposed to work differently - at least they seem to agree that they should *sigh* |
| 20:47 |
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cait |
ohwell |
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cait |
trying to get that tranfer slip now again |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
grr. |
| 20:50 |
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* cait |
is going to give up on that for now |
| 20:50 |
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cait |
now the callnumber and barcode don't print on the hold slip... with the transfer. |
| 20:50 |
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cait |
but they printd nicely on the hold slip without the transfer |
| 20:53 |
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* cait |
is just going to pretend she didn't see that |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
niihau, eythian |
| 21:14 |
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wizzyrea |
cait: transfers are a sticky business. |
| 21:14 |
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wizzyrea |
it's not just you |
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cait |
wizzyrea: thx |
| 21:15 |
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wizzyrea |
those bugs I highlighted earlier, fixing them might well sort transfers. |
| 21:15 |
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wizzyrea |
or at least get it a long way along the line |
| 21:15 |
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cait |
hm yeah |
| 21:15 |
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cait |
but seems they got stuck becuase we couldn't agree on a solution? |
| 21:16 |
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wizzyrea |
because no one wants to tear out the guts of transfers |
| 21:16 |
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cait |
i can kinda understand that |
| 21:27 |
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cait |
oh rangi or wizzyrea - could you put a reminder about the irc meeting into the motd? |
| 21:27 |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g,_9_October_2013 |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 9th October, 10:00 UTC |
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wizzyrea |
since when have you been able to click the labels in the permission list to expand the permissions? |
| 21:36 |
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wizzyrea |
their style is funny, but the function is kind of neat |
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wizzyrea |
it's the only link in the staff client that is black, turning red (instead of blue, turning green) (that I know of) |
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cait |
@later tell tcohen - 10609 is for you :) |
| 21:41 |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:58 |
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eythian |
Who wants their name in signoff lights? That's right, you do! Refer bug 10944 for more information. |
| 21:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10944 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Mixed content warnings in results and detail with Amazon images on https |
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eythian |
why's it allocated to oleonard, that's not right. |
| 21:58 |
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wizzyrea |
because he's the default for opac-y things |
| 21:59 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: you shoud ltake it :) |
| 21:59 |
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eythian |
odd, I apparently didn't add my patch to it. |
| 21:59 |
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* eythian |
fixes that. |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
oh |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
ok, time to sleep- night all |
| 22:03 |
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eythian |
later caiter |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
lol |
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rangi |
bug 10908 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10908 blocker, P1 - high, ---, robin, Signed Off , Fix broken auth_by_bind LDAP mode |
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eythian |
http://epubebookeditions.com.au/ <-- interesting, though I suspect they're all public domain. This said, if they're tidying them up and making good quality versions, go them. |
