IRC log for #koha, 2013-09-25

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00:13 * dcook hopes xchat doesn't freeze again..
00:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #120 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9761: DBRev <[…]fece7bc3699d88750> / Bug 9761: Unit tests for ConfirmFutureHolds changes <[…]1c74b17bdc060a703> / Bug 9761: Preliminary measures for adding a unit test <[…]diff;h=579b65c973
01:30 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #120: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/120/
01:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time
01:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: dbrev for ConfirmFutureHolds
01:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Reformulating the preference description
01:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Preliminary measures for adding a unit test
01:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time
01:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Unit tests for ConfirmFutureHolds changes
01:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9761: DBRev
01:45 wizzyrea hm interesting[…]84864#reader-link
01:45 wizzyrea others get feature unavailable eh
01:45 wizzyrea ?
01:46 eythian I do, yeah
01:46 wizzyrea eenteresting
01:46 dcook Yep
01:46 jeff "We're sorry, but this feature is currently unavailable. Please try again later.
01:46 jeff "
01:46 dcook Should have an American check :p
01:47 wizzyrea theoretically, according to amazon, I am.
01:47 wizzyrea well jeff is american eh?
01:47 wizzyrea in america american
01:49 jeff[…]on/dp/1869416643/ and seem to work without error -- i'm not sure what the "reader" bit in the URL is meant to do.
01:50 wizzyrea yea me either
01:50 wizzyrea that's what I was wondering
01:51 * wizzyrea thinks to eradicate it, if it's going to be ugly.
01:51 dcook Eradicate!
01:51 wizzyrea thanks for that jeff
01:51 * dcook says while envisioning the heavy duty cyborg from an early episode of season 1 of Ghost in the Shell
01:51 wizzyrea hehe
01:51 wizzyrea ex ter mi nate
01:54 eythian
01:55 eythian (that was a quite good track when I saw them do it live, too :)
01:58 dcook Diggin' it so far
02:30 wizzyrea it needs 24 more followers
02:31 wizzyrea could also join something like
02:31 jeff wizzyrea: i'm curious what you think about the koha stackexchange propsal versus the libraries stackexchange proposal -- do you think that a more limited scope will be an advantage?
02:31 wizzyrea I do, I think
02:31 wizzyrea if I was going to expand the scope, I'd expand it to "Open ILS"
02:32 wizzyrea I just don't want to see questions in there like "How do I repair a book that had wine spilled on it" right next door to "I've installed Koha on RedHat and now I can't <do a thing>"
02:33 rangi or how do i use X piece of proprietary crap :)
02:33 wizzyrea ^^^^ this
02:34 rangi however i suspect that since SE is proprietary crap, we'll have to walk the walk on that :-)
02:34 wizzyrea yea probably going to end up not on SE
02:34 wizzyrea in the end
02:35 jeff wizzyrea: i'm mostly wondering if a koha SE would be able to maintain the 15 questions/day on average and 1,500 visits/day average to be considered "healthy" and escape Beta without being shut down.
02:35 wizzyrea yep, I have that concern as well.
02:35 wizzyrea it seems a worthy experiment to judge if it's worth setting up our own though
02:37 eythian wahanui: gentoo
02:37 wahanui gentoo is supply that too in the future :D
02:37 eythian no wahanui, gentoo is
02:37 wahanui okay, eythian.
02:37 huginn Bug 35890: was not found.
02:37 jeff No objections, just wondering about your thoughts -- I know the libraries SE was a bit of a learning experience, and Unshelved Answers before that.
02:38 wizzyrea eythian: that is amazing.
02:39 rangi jeff: its more an easy way to see if people would be interested in something like SE, then we use one of the free software implementations to run our own with less rules around how many people must use it :)
02:40 wizzyrea ^^
02:47 jeff rangi: that's what I thought wizzyrea was saying, yep. :-)
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03:20 jcamins jeff: hey, did you know that EMU's "Up-North" extension facility is in Traverse City, MI?
03:21 jcamins EMU also has a "Fish Lake" campus.
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03:22 rangi hi johnbljr
03:22 johnbljr hi rangi
03:23 johnbljr Greetings! I am looking for a z39.5 server that will assist with entering Chinese language books. Any thoughts?
03:23 wizzyrea irspy?
03:23 wahanui irspy is a good source for identifying Z39.50 targets. See
03:24 johnbljr OK let me check it out.
03:24 wizzyrea you mean for importing records, not serving them? :)
03:24 jeff jcamins: yep, they're part of the local college's University Center program. looks like EMU offers about ten courses, though only one of them is actually in Traverse City.
03:25 jeff (the other nine are in Bellaire)
03:25 jcamins jeff: I learned this because "Fish stocking -- Michigan -- East Fish Lake" is considered "very relevant" to my search for "fish" in UMich's database.
03:30 jeff huh. three of those ten courses are skiing or snowboarding!
03:30 jcamins jeff: guess I know where to go for my winter sports!
03:33 jeff emu has an app, and this gem is from one of the reviews: ``I had to go to the Hover Building.The campus map lists this building slightly west of Cameroon in Africa.That made finding it difficult irl.''
03:33 jcamins lol
03:33 eythian hahah
03:33 dcook hehe
03:39 jeff there was a large library vendor with an ios app that tried to find libraries near you with that vendor's products... if it had trouble locating you, it would display an error message:
03:40 jeff Location Services Failed! We were not able to locate you, ergo we will be using coordinates for Near Apple Headquarters. [OK]
03:40 * wizzyrea blinks
03:41 wizzyrea many things there.
03:41 wizzyrea there is not enough usage of the word ergo in UI
03:42 eythian heh, my app that uses location services to determine if you're in range to decide whether to send notifications apparently assumes that you are in wellington if it doesn't know any better.
03:42 eythian So often getting off a plane, where the location hasn't worked things out yet, you'll get notifications before it works out you're not in Wellington after all.
03:42 eythian I need to fix that bug.
03:43 jeff hrm. i have a wide variety of screenshots in this collection. Not sure which of these "Breaking News: Apple Co-founder Steve Jobs Dies" news articles is worse... the one with the "Win an iPad 2!" ad, or the one with the "Grow Zombies for FREE!" ad. :P
03:44 eythian haha
03:45 jeff then there's the headline "Fire Destroys Pickford Consignment Shop, Monkey Rescued" where the body of the article makes no mention of the monkey.
03:47 jcamins Myshkin has resorted to bribery in an effort to get me to go to bed: his favorite toy has been deposited on my pillow.
03:47 jcamins Good night.
03:47 wahanui If you feel like someone is looking through your window, it's OK, it's just me.
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03:49 johnbljr So i just set up Koha and thanks to you I was able to find libraries with Chinese books. Now when I go to import them once I find them I receive the error that I am missing tags. How important is it that I have the tags added and how can i remove tags?
03:50 jcamins @later tell cait Hier sind Mannheimer bibliografische Datensätze! Und das Wort "Gesamtkunstwerk"![…]q=gesamtkunstwerk
03:50 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
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03:58 eythian wahanui: competition is
03:58 wahanui OK, eythian.
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04:38 mtompset split!
04:39 eythian wahanui: split is <action> will provide the bananas!
04:39 wahanui OK, eythian.
04:40 mtompset split!
04:40 mtompset split?
04:40 * wahanui will provide the bananas!
04:40 mtompset Cute, eythian.
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04:45 wizzyrea hey that's funny
04:45 wizzyrea i mean, totally serious.
05:08 eythian wahanui: wake up, sheeple is <reply>ARISE, MY HUMAN-SHEEP HYBRIDS!
05:08 wahanui OK, eythian.
05:08 dcook lol
05:27 mtompset wake up, sheeple?
05:27 wahanui ARISE, eythian's HUMAN-SHEEP HYBRIDS!
05:27 eythian haha iios
05:27 eythian no wahanui, wake up, sheeple is <reply>ARISE, \MY HUMAN-SHEEP HYBRIDS!
05:27 wahanui okay, eythian.
05:27 eythian *oops
05:28 dcook sure sure :p
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05:45 mtompset wake up, sheeple?
05:45 pug Im up!
05:48 pug hey any of you guys have some experience with the debian script - koha-dump and koha-restore?
05:48 pug Im having this "Operation DROP USER failed for" issue .. followed some steps online, but Im still stuck.
05:49 mtompset DROP USER?
05:50 mtompset Sorry... not familiar with them.
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05:56 pug its a mysql error , when the backup/restore scripts for debian are used ..
06:24 magnuse pug: which script gives you that error? koha-dump or koha-restore?
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06:39 reiveune hello
06:40 mtompset Bonjour. :)
06:41 mtompset Well, I should sleep.
06:41 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. :)
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06:48 samueld hi everybody
06:50 magnuse bonjour!
06:50 magnuse @wunder boo
06:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 25, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
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06:50 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on September 25, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
06:50 magnuse ok, you win ;-)
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07:00 gaetan_B hello
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07:31 magnuse is 942 (and specifically 942$c) actually used for anything in koha today?
07:31 dcook What's 942$c again?
07:31 magnuse record level document type
07:32 dcook I think it provides a default for when you're adding items
07:32 dcook It's also stored in the biblioitems table
07:32 dcook Although I'm not sure that it's really "used" in that table..
07:32 magnuse "Koha [default] item type"
07:33 magnuse yeah, i guess it is used as the default for item types for items on the same record...
07:34 dcook I'm not really sure how important that is though
07:34 dcook I would imagine that could be phased out
07:35 magnuse yup, me too
07:36 magnuse i suspect it exists for historical reasons, and comes from the time when koha was more frbr'ish
07:38 dcook I imagine so
07:47 dcook feature slush?
07:47 wahanui somebody said feature slush was the date stuff that got passed-qa makes it into 3.14 with high probability
07:47 dcook release schedule?
07:47 wahanui release schedule is[…]gmcharlt#Timeline
07:47 dcook Ah
07:47 dcook Oh well.
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07:56 kf good morning #koha
07:59 kf @later tell drojf ping
07:59 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
08:00 dcook Time for shopping and gym
08:00 dcook have a good day #koha
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08:15 jon_ Hi there
08:15 wahanui hey, jon_
08:15 jon_ Hi wahanui
08:16 jon_ I am trying to setup Koha on Centos and I am running into some trouble
08:16 jon_ particularly with some prerequisites
08:16 jon_ Warning: prerequisite Net::Server::PreFork 0.97 not found. We have unknown version. Warning: prerequisite Net::Z3950::ZOOM 1.16 not found. Warning: prerequisite Plack::Middleware::HTTPExceptions 0.01 not found. We have unknown version. Warning: prerequisite Schedule::At 1.06 not found. Warning: prerequisite Text::Aspell 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite XML::Dumper 0.81 not found. Warning: prerequisite XML::LibXSLT 1.59 not found. Warning: prereq
08:17 jon_ I'm not sure if anyone else experienced this
08:19 magnuse jon_: i suspect not a lot of people here have experience with koha on centos
08:20 jon_ even online, most tutorials are debian/ubuntu
08:20 magnuse yeah, debian (or ubuntu) is the recommended os, which most of the developers use
08:22 magnuse are you doing a test installation just to kick the tyres, or to develop or to use in production?
08:22 jon_ I will be happy with just a test installation at this point
08:22 magnuse there is some info on the wiki, but i have no idea how updated or accurate it is:[…]tos_6.3_x86_64_en
08:22 jon_ and then we'll take it from there to a production
08:23 magnuse then i would use debian and the packages, to get it up and running as smoothly as possible
08:27 jon_ do you recommend koha being on a server on can it be part of a web server?
08:31 magnuse not sure i understand that question
08:31 magnuse you can run other things on the same server as koha
08:35 pug magnuse, are you there ? sorry I was out.
08:43 pug magnuse:  are you there ? sorry I was out.
08:44 magnuse yup
08:49 pug yeah, so I was getting the issue - "Operation DROP USER failed for" , on koha-restore
08:50 pug I basically did a koha-dump .. then did a koha-remove .. no errors so far ..
08:50 pug but when I move on to restore from the dump files, I get the above specified mysql error
08:51 pug Im doing backup restore for the first time .. is there a obvious mistake Im making?
08:52 magnuse hm, sounds like a weird error to get
08:52 magnuse i'm not sure i ever tried the koha-restore script
08:57 pug ah ok -- its a reported error[…]_bug.cgi?id=10517 -- but I couldnt find a fix for it
08:57 huginn Bug 10517: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , kohe-restore fails to create mysqluser@mysql_hostname so zebra update fails
09:01 fredericd On master/3.12, build_holds_queue doesn't seem to work anymore. tmp_holds queue isn't populated at all, and so Circulation - Holds queue & Holds to pull pages doesn't display anything.
09:01 fredericd Does it sound familiar to anyone?
09:07 kf fredericd: it sounds scary, but i haven't seen reports to that so far
09:07 kf hm i tested the holds_queue a while back for a bug - but not sure when and it was on master
09:10 rangi fredericd: id compare the table in your db, to the kohastructure.sql
09:11 rangi make sure your db isnt missing a column or something
09:15 fredericd rangi: thks for the suggestion
09:15 fredericd I'm down to examining MapItemsToHoldRequests C4::HoldQueue function, which always return nothing...
09:16 kf i think there were some 'fixes' in that area - maybe worth taking a look at the git history too? it might be something in configuration needs to be switched because it got stricter
09:46 magnuse incomplete_data_exports--
10:09 magnuse @later tell gmcharlt: did you try to leave me a @later a while back that could be related to bug 10945? if so i am afraid i missed it...
10:09 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
10:39 * magnuse lunches
10:58 kf @later tell drofj changing email to E-Mail because of Duden
10:58 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
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11:48 magnuse Duden - was bedeutet das?
11:54 fredericd Ich weiss es nicht
11:54 fredericd It's confirmed I don't understand at all how holds queue is managed in Koha
11:54 fredericd I can't understand the difference between Circulation Holds queue and Holds to pull report.
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11:55 fredericd And examining adds to my confusion
12:02 magnuse nudge nudge[…]-library-software
12:04 kf fredericd: there has been a blog post about that - i found it quite enlightening, let me find it
12:04 kf fredericd:[…]koha-holds-queue/
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12:17 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:21 tcohen morning
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12:23 fredericd kf: Thanks. I've seen this article. I'm helpless
12:45 magnuse hiya oleonard and tcohen
12:46 tcohen hi magnuse
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12:55 oleonard[…]82750934562250752
12:55 oleonard ^^ for my French-speaking friends
13:01 kf fredericd: helpless is not good, but not sure i can help :(
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13:25 jcamins I would like to take a stand and state that directly running unsanitized user input is a bad thing.
13:26 kf jcamins: I can see where you are coming from there...
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13:43 oleonard Hi kmkale
13:43 kf hi oleonard
13:47 kmkale hi oleonard
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14:01 * oleonard grumbles about Stack Exchange mods closing questions as duplicate because they don't know Koha
14:02 oleonard "What is the latest stable version?" is not a dupe of "How do I install Koha on Windows?"
14:02 jcamins oleonard: even without knowing Koha, how are those questions similar?
14:05 oleonard The mod assumes that both mean "How do I install Koha?"
14:05 oleonard I guess
14:08 oleonard Here's my next example question: Why can't I post an example question sooner than 3 minutes later? :P
14:19 kf oleonard: guess that means Stackoverflow is not the right place
14:19 oleonard It could certainly be a source of friction
14:19 kf oleonard: someone in my distance study said there are plugins for joomla implementing a system like that for questions
14:19 kf oleonard: maybe we could find something for wordpress?
14:20 oleonard I'm not sure it's worth it if it isn't on Stackoverflow... Isn't part of the point that it's in a place where people are likely to look?
14:21 kf not sure
14:21 kf i don't really use stackoverflow
14:21 jeff i'm not certain that koha is on-topic for stackoverflow.
14:21 kf well idon't use it at all if it doesn't come up in search results
14:21 jcamins oleonard: no, my understanding is that it's just a test to see if we should set up a FOSS system.
14:21 kf but i like the way it works
14:21 jeff which i suspect is why there's an attempt to create another stackexchange site that is koha-focused, rather than try to use stackoverflow.
14:23 jeff stackoverflow is more about "writing software" questions, not "using software" questions.
14:26 jeff though i see there are some koha questions on stackoverflow -- none of the koha-specific ones seem to have any votes, though. :-)
14:26 jeff
14:26 jcamins I have no interest in a StackOverflow-like system.
14:26 gaetan_B bye!
14:27 jcamins The mailing list volume is already too high for me.
14:27 oleonard Crazy that anyone would ask a Koha-specific question on stackoverflow when there are Koha-specific options
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14:36 chris_n a very interesting discussion:
14:37 jcamins Which one?
14:37 wahanui i think Which one is that? The fixed navbar?
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14:38 oleonard chris_n: Which discussion?
14:38 jcamins (the link is just to the index)
14:42 kf tablets?
14:42 jcamins Tablets?
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14:43 jcamins Oh. Following the link again brings us to the actual message.
14:44 oleonard Re: Re: RE: Re: RE:
14:47 chris_n opps
14:48 chris_n om
14:48 chris_n try this:[…]-09/msg00041.html
14:49 chris_n re the future relevancy of the librarian
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14:55 reiveune bye
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15:06 oleonard Re-adding the maxreserves system preference seems like a step backwards to me. Bug 4045.
15:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
15:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10687: DBRev <[…]90edee488d431c311> / Bug 10687: (follow-up) remove authority 68a/68b tags from translated MARC21 framework... <[…]32cf4967c3de6fdd6> / Bug 10687: Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework <http://git.k
15:21 gmcharlt oleonard: agreed
15:22 oleonard ...not that I can offer a better solution
15:22 * gmcharlt would rather see somebody take up kf's suggestion of making an equivalent to the Total current checkouts allowed functionality rather than (re)add a global limit
15:23 gmcharlt IOW, a better solution was proposed but apparently ignored
15:23 gmcharlt though possibily better yet would be carving out a separate 'holdrules' set of tables so that issuingrules doesn't end up doing too much
15:24 kf gmcharlt: we need to split things up there - i agree
15:24 kf it's not really easy to handle, I end up loading the rules with sql all the time
15:25 kf because too worreid about making mistakes using the interface
15:25 kf and they are hard to spot
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15:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #121 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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15:45 ebegin Anybody knows what are the field for main author in Unimarc ? The equivalence of MARC fields 100, 110 and 111  ?
15:46 ebegin I guess fredericd knows that :)
15:47 oleonard Anyone else find that after checking in an item with a hold, clicking "Print and confirm" pops up a window that says "reserve not found?"
15:48 gmcharlt oleonard: ick.  in master, just now?
15:48 oleonard Yes
15:48 kf oleonard: do you have the slip configrued?
15:48 kf oleonard: i had once problems with that
15:49 oleonard kf: RESERVESLIP ?
15:49 kf yep
15:49 gmcharlt ebegin: the equivalents appear to be the 700/1/ and the 710/1/2,
15:49 kf at least I think so
15:49 * gmcharlt <== not UNIMARC expert
15:49 oleonard My tests show it's a side-effect of Bug 9394
15:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Use reserve_id where possible
15:50 oleonard ...says git bisect, so unless the slip configuration issue is connected somehow I don't think that's it.
15:53 ebegin thanks gmcharlt. We are fixing the bibtex export to include 1XX : bug 6201
15:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6201 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , BibTeX export does not incude MARC21 main entry
15:56 kf oleonard: guess there had to be one
15:56 kf oleonard: i was totall ymissing the slip as it hadn't been installed for german - so if you have one it should be unrealted
15:58 gmcharlt oleonard: I'll have a patch for you to look at in the next five minutes or so
16:01 kf it's scary to try and figure out where the small icons in the result list come from..
16:01 kf and detail and result list do it differently
16:02 kf I am trying to answer a question on the german mailing list
16:02 kf do LDR, 008 and 007 sound right?
16:03 jcamins Yes.
16:04 kf jcamins++ for both the patch and the answr :)
16:17 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #121: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/121/
16:17 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10687: Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework
16:17 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10687: (follow-up) remove authority 68a/68b tags from translated MARC21 framework scripts
16:17 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10687: DBRev
16:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10687 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework
16:20 gmcharlt oleonard: bug 10949
16:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10949 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , hold request not retrieved when printing hold slip
16:21 oleonard gmcharlt++
16:35 * oleonard goes back to trying to reproduce bug 10843
16:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , print a slip can cause an error
16:39 * oleonard managed to do it once, but now can't
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16:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10730: (follow-up) restore background color for cells <[…]612a528a888e9c8e6> / Bug 10730: Use DataTables on the tag review page <[…]fa99cc8a00df3a4f4>
17:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #122 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:12 kf bye all :)
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17:19 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:19 mtompset I was running the qa-tool on a series of patches I was testing, so I forgot how many patches were applies, so I just decided to use the number 10.
17:20 mtompset I got a qa-tools fail on bug 10730 which was pushed to master. Nothing horrible, just a white space issue.
17:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10730 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on the tag review page
17:45 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #122: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/122/
17:45 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10730: Use DataTables on the tag review page
17:45 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10730: (follow-up) restore background color for cells
17:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10730 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on the tag review page
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18:03 cait fredericd++ (fixing cart and list email)
18:06 tcohen anyone interested in havving fun testing? bug 10003
18:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10003 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-* scripts (packages) should provide tab-completion in bash
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18:28 chris_n wow, we've been beating around about the PDF/unicode issue for over four years now
18:28 * chris_n sure hopes we can get on with embedding ttf fonts now
18:43 * gmcharlt would not be opposed to an interim solution that just the paths to the fonts in koha-conf.xml or the like
18:43 gmcharlt more configurability can come later
18:43 gmcharlt *sticks the paths
18:50 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "If we don't get to publish the l10n packages in time..." (10 lines) at
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18:56 oleonard Why do I see a mix of item types and collection codes under the item type facet on search results?
18:59 oleonard Does anyone else get that?
19:01 * oleonard wonders if his data is messed up somehow
19:11 cait oleonard: not sure really
19:11 cait i had problems with the location facet recently
19:11 cait does that show for you?
19:12 oleonard shelving location?
19:12 wahanui shelving location is now in italic underneath the library name.
19:12 cait oleonard: yes
19:13 oleonard No
19:14 cait bug?
19:14 wahanui bug is probably it stores biblionumber not itemnumber
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19:15 oleonard Or is the location facet only supposed to show if you're in SingleBranchMode?
19:16 cait oleonard: it used to be like that... but i thought i had tested a patch recently that changed it
19:16 cait maybe it's still in galen's queue
19:28 oleonard Bye #koha
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19:50 chris_n gmcharlt: +1
19:51 chris_n and it should default to using the built-in fonts
19:51 chris_n that way if a user does not want to install ttf, there's no need to
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20:21 mtompset How do I change the marcflavor in my koha system?
20:22 mtompset Is it possible to have mixed marc data in Koha?
20:24 cait no
20:25 mtompset Okay... does someone have some UNIMARC database that I can use for testing?
20:26 mtompset It seems to be the only way to completely test well the bug I really want in.
20:27 cait there is one in the sandbox git repo i think
20:34 mtompset what is the url for the sandbox git repo?
20:34 cait it's on the normal repo
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20:59 bag oh man rangi Team USA wins the cups
21:00 wizzyrea shh no talking.
21:03 ibeardslee bag: well Team Oracle .. wasn't there only the one USAian on the boat?
21:03 cait not talking about that?
21:04 bag yeah sorry Team Oracle
21:04 bag 8-1 deficit come back too
21:05 gmcharlt that does it
21:06 gmcharlt NZ clearly has to field Team PostgreSQL/MariaDB next time
21:06 mtompset what cups?
21:06 gmcharlt's_Cup
21:08 wizzyrea *snicker* http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]-the-list-kohails
21:14 jeff for inaccurate documentation and annoying assumptions about application/xml :P
21:15 wizzyrea be rangi
21:15 wahanui Send a patch!
21:15 cait be wizzyrea
21:15 wahanui do you like my aspirational, irritatingly American, optimism?
21:16 wizzyrea ^.^
21:19 bag s/cups/cup :P
21:20 rambutan How can you lose 8 straight? How?
21:23 wizzyrea technology
21:24 mtompset Has anyone here every done a UNIMARC install?
21:25 mtompset ^every^ever^
21:25 cait yes, you just pick the other things when running makefile
21:25 mtompset I'm actually about to set up my own UNIMARC Koha.
21:25 mtompset I'm going to attempt to set it up like Biblibre's UNIMARC demo.
21:26 mtompset Because it seems like the only way to thoroughly test this patch is to use it under MARC21 and UNIMARC.
21:27 mtompset And I want this patch.
21:27 mtompset bug 6874
21:27 wahanui i heard bug 6874 was epic
21:27 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
21:33 * gmcharlt sees nothing in that patch that requires a MARC21 user to deal with a UNIMARC installation in order to legimitately sign off
21:33 gmcharlt IOW, you can save yourself some work
21:39 mtompset yes, but I don't like to sign off, unless I have really tested it.
21:40 mtompset And C4::Biblio's 6th change deals with an ELSE case that requires a different MARC flavour.
21:41 gmcharlt it's nice if you want to make the effort -- but there is /no/ implicit or explicit requirement that you do so
21:41 mtompset It's a matter of thoroughness.
21:41 mtompset If *I* am thorough, then QA's job is easier.
21:43 mtompset not to mention... there are quite a few UNIMARC patches untested and not signed off, because of a lack of UNIMARC testers.
21:43 mtompset The thoroughness for this bug has potential for handling others.
21:54 eythian hi.
21:56 wizzyrea I approve of testing unimarc patches. Might want to get with a unimarc user so you know how to test it.
21:57 mtompset In this case, I don't need to get with a unimarc user as much as I need unimarc data to trigger a couple cases related to a code change.
21:57 mtompset which means I need a unimarc koha installation.
22:03 rangi[…]id-theft-service/  <-- apropos yesterdays discussion
22:04 cait morning rangi
22:04 rangi hey cait
22:04 wizzyrea I meant for the other unimarc patches
22:04 wizzyrea morning rangi
22:07 wizzyrea eep
22:19 rambutan[…]ttps-now-for-free
22:20 wizzyrea ^^^ this
22:20 wahanui ^^^ this is it, thanks
22:21 wizzyrea haha that dev reaction also apt for "Someone deleted all of the intranetuserjs on the day before go-live"
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22:25 cait wizzyrea: the action_logs are great for that :)
22:26 wizzyrea[…]92012022625v7.gif
22:26 wizzyrea :)
22:26 wizzyrea hehe yea that's what I did. :)
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23:30 mtompset Greetings, twirlip papa dcook tcohen NateC. :)
23:30 NateC :)
23:30 * dcook waves
23:48 FORMAL joined #koha
23:48 FORMAL hello
23:48 wahanui hello, FORMAL
23:48 FORMAL hi
23:48 FORMAL what is koha?
23:48 wahanui somebody said koha was a free software ils see for more info
23:48 FORMAL wahanui, you a bot?
23:48 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, formal
23:48 FORMAL you are
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23:56 eythian wahanui: \are you a bot is <reply>
23:56 wahanui OK, eythian.
23:56 eythian are you a bot?
23:56 wahanui
23:57 mtompset Where do you find this stuff, eythian?!
23:58 eythian How do you not know Basshunter? This track was all over the internet in 2008 or so.
23:58 FORMAL mmm
23:58 mtompset I was in the Philippines.
23:58 FORMAL i came because i saw a log about quant finance
23:58 mtompset Following music on the internet was not my focus.
23:58 FORMAL from this channel
23:58 FORMAL who works on quant finance here?
23:59 gmcharlt very likely nobody; Koha is software for libraries
23:59 mtompset quant finance?! I have never heard of that either.
23:59 FORMAL lol
23:59 FORMAL software
23:59 wahanui software is wrong, not the people >.>
23:59 FORMAL what kind of software?
23:59 FORMAL wahanui shut up you robot
23:59 wahanui FORMAL: i'm not following you...

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