IRC log for #koha, 2013-08-31

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01:01 jcamins @later tell drojf I recommend against tapioca starch for baking cookies.
01:01 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
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02:03 jcamins tapioca_starch--
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06:29 cait goodmorning
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08:26 drojf good morning #koha
08:27 * drojf likes getting baking recommendations via @later
08:27 drojf jcamins++
08:27 drojf ;)
08:32 drojf @later tell mtompset according to http://meetings.koha-community[…]-10-10-10.01.html it was the right vimal
08:32 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded.
08:57 cait :)
08:58 cait morning jcamins
09:05 drojf morning cait
09:20 drojf i could either read something for my thesis, or try to find out if there is javascript text-to-speech that i could combine with javascript pdf-reader to listen to it on my phone. guess what sounds more attractive.
09:25 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
09:25 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 21.4°C (11:13 AM CEST on August 31, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
09:54 cait drojf: you will learn something new either way :)
10:54 cait bye all, see you sunday
11:53 magnuse @wunder boo
11:53 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on August 31, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
11:53 magnuse yay
11:54 magnuse @wunder marseille
11:54 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 26.0°C (1:30 PM CEST on August 31, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
12:23 drojf magnuse: looks like you are going to have some extra light :)
12:24 magnuse drojf: yay!
12:25 magnuse lots of clouds coming in now, though...
12:26 drojf oh, unfair
12:26 magnuse yeah :-)
12:26 magnuse i looked for the aurora last night, when it was clear, but didn't see any then
12:27 drojf that's how i remember the aurora in bodø :P
12:27 drojf always hiding
12:29 magnuse hehe
12:29 magnuse were you here in winter?
12:31 drojf beginning of march
12:32 drojf lots of snow, at least on some days
12:32 magnuse ah, should have been dark enough then
12:34 drojf yes but it did not like us. it only showed up to a few people. there was a swedish guy good at finding the right spot, i think he saw it several times
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12:45 magnuse hehe, yeah it is an unpredictable phenomenon .-)
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12:54 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
12:54 magnuse hiya mtompset
12:55 mtompset Greetings, magnuse. :)
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13:23 mtompset Greetings, papa.
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13:45 tcohen morning
13:53 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
13:53 tcohen hi mtompset
13:54 mtompset I was wondering in your opinion, once they have a bare koha running (both opac and staff client functional, but no data, no libraries set up, no patrons set up, default system preferences), do the install instructions need to go further, or would a link to some wiki pages be sufficient?
13:56 mtompset Feel free to pipe up opinions, anyone. :)
13:57 jcamins Installation instructions should be limited to how to install Koha.
13:57 jcamins drojf: I was really appalled by the tapioca strach.
13:58 drojf jcamins: why?
13:59 jcamins It gave my baked goods a weird consistency and flavor.
14:01 drojf i accidentally bought the wrong rice paper a while ago. i wanted to do summer rolls and ended ub with rice paper for frying. it had tapioka starch in it and it smelled very unattractive
14:01 jcamins I initially blamed the chickpea flour, so I added more tapioca starch to my second batch of cookies, and they were appalling.
14:02 drojf oh no
14:03 jcamins I should have taken photos for hilarity's sake.
14:03 drojf heh
14:20 mtompset So, upgrading, removal instructions not in the install instructions either?
14:20 jcamins Upgrading and removal make sense.
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15:28 mtompset license text?
15:28 wahanui i guess license text is[…]uidelines#Licence
15:29 druthb mtompset!  drojf!  :D
15:29 druthb @later tell cait traveled safe and sound, and things are going just fine in Denison.  More news later.
15:29 huginn` druthb: The operation succeeded.
15:29 mtompset druthb: I see you "liked" the link I sent you. ;)
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16:54 mtompset Is there a good documentation link for
17:01 mtompset @later tell tcohen I see you have a Spanish version of the Ubuntu packages installation. Perhaps you'd want to look at the revised version on the wiki now. I shortened it. The long version is still there with _long added at the end.
17:01 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
17:02 jcamins mtompset: there is not, and you should not be using it anyway.
17:03 mtompset So, axe it from the instructions?
17:03 jcamins Yes.
17:03 mtompset What about a good documentation reindexing link?
17:03 jcamins faq?
17:03 wahanui faq is found at
17:14 mtompset Should making koha a public z39.50 being in the base install instructions?
17:47 jcamins I have no opinion.
17:53 jcamins But I do need chocolate sauce.
17:53 jcamins And a plan for these lentil cakes.
17:56 jcamins There's quinoa.
17:56 jcamins Chia, I think.
18:12 jcamins I have a problem.
18:12 jcamins I have gf-free cocoa powder, and I have chocolate which does not include any gluten ingredients.
18:13 jcamins I need to make chocolate cream sauce, and all the recipes call for chocolate rather than cocoa powder.
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18:17 jcamins drojf: if you have chocolate that includes no ingredients with gluten but isn't certified gluten free, will you eat it?
18:20 jcamins Hmph. No drojf.
18:28 drojf jcamins: chocolate often contains gluten/wheat due to it being used for other stuff in the factory. it has to be declared here, like
18:28 drojf "may contain traces of gluten or wheat"
18:29 drojf i tend to eat that
18:30 drojf i buy one without it if available though
18:32 drojf i am not sure what "traces of" means in legal terms, as "gluten free" already means less than a certain amount
18:32 jcamins drojf: yeah, since you weren't here, I decided to use cocoa powder.
18:33 jcamins So right now I have the half-and-half heating on the stove.
18:34 drojf probably the best choice if you are not sure
18:34 drojf if there are people involved that have crazy reactions to gluten traces may be too much
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18:35 jcamins Yeah, I'm not sure and he has a really long trip.
18:52 jcamins The chocolate sauce needs something.
18:54 drojf chili
18:56 jcamins I considered that.
18:56 jcamins But I've added chili to just about everything.
19:04 drojf heh
19:04 drojf so what did you use?
19:05 jcamins Sherry.
19:46 druthb o/
20:06 jcamins Butter or bacon grease dotted on the top of my paella?
20:37 mtompset Butter?
20:37 wahanui i guess Butter is butter yo shit
20:38 mtompset Who programmed that?!
20:38 mtompset wahanui: forget butter
20:38 wahanui mtompset: I forgot butter
20:40 mtompset chocolate?
20:40 wahanui reiveune ate them all
20:40 mtompset chili?
20:40 mtompset sherry?
20:40 mtompset bacon?
20:40 wahanui bacon is good, bacon is nice
20:42 jcamins mtompset: you've said both. Which one?
20:42 mtompset Butter is my guess. I really don't know.
20:43 mtompset The other stuff was just seeing what people may have programmed wahanui with.
20:44 jcamins It's cooking. There's no wrong answer.
20:44 mtompset Yes, but when it comes to taste, there is.
20:44 mtompset I looked at
20:45 mtompset and based on the variety of ingredients listed in the basic ingredients... I'd go with butter.
20:45 jcamins Oh, my paella doesn't look very like what wikipedia calls for.
20:46 mtompset Are you saying it has different ingredients?
20:46 jcamins Well... I used rice. :)
20:47 mtompset Yes, but what else? Because bacon grease works with rice too.
20:47 jcamins Veggies.
20:47 jcamins Whatever I found.
20:47 jcamins Lots of tomatoes.
20:47 mtompset butter.
20:47 jcamins I actually don't quite remember what else.
20:47 jcamins Cashews.
20:47 wahanui cashews are goddamn fantastic
20:47 jcamins Thanks.
20:48 mtompset see... someone has programmed wahanui with opinions on several food things.
20:48 mtompset I think butter goes better with tomatoes than bacon grease.
20:49 mtompset Though, I think some would argue that bacon grease goes with everything. ;)
20:50 jcamins Butter it is.
20:50 jcamins Thanks.
20:50 mtompset Do we need pre-3.4 instructions in the installation instructions for 3.14?
20:51 mtompset (the upgrade tweak)
20:52 jcamins Sadly yes.
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22:32 tcohen mtompset: you might add an UPGRADE file
22:34 tcohen mtompset: the spanish wiki is not mine :-D
22:34 tcohen @query packages
22:34 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2509 enhancement, P3, ---, chris, NEW , create Debian package
22:34 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6172 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Zebra not indexed Unimarc-records
22:34 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7424 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha should have a designated place for custom CSS
22:34 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7764 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , INSTALL.ubuntu needs to be updated
22:34 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8807 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , add Carton support to Koha
22:35 tcohen @query tomascohen
22:36 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
22:36 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10622 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add --sip and --nosip switches to koha-list
22:36 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7785 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , MySQL-specific syntax in C4::Members columns()
22:36 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib
22:36 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6709 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated.
23:14 mtompset tcohen: So who is Davinxi?

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