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dcook |
\o trea |
00:16 |
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dcook |
Feeling better? (Not that we talk about you when you're not around...) |
00:16 |
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trea |
i'm congested, but i'm here |
00:16 |
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trea |
thx for asking |
00:17 |
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* dcook |
holds up his box of Kleenex and his water bottle |
00:17 |
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dcook |
I hear that |
00:17 |
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dcook |
and you're welcome :) |
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00:53 |
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tcohen |
night #koha |
00:53 |
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dcook |
night tcohen |
00:53 |
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dcook |
hey campbell |
01:12 |
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01:51 |
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dcook |
A person can't do matching on authority records, eh? |
01:51 |
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jcamins |
There's a patch for that. |
01:52 |
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dcook |
Sweeeeet |
01:52 |
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dcook |
(Eventually) |
01:55 |
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wizzyrea |
be jcamins |
01:55 |
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wahanui |
Have some fudge. |
01:55 |
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* wizzyrea |
nods |
01:55 |
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wizzyrea |
authority matching? |
01:55 |
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wizzyrea |
authority matching is <reply> There's a patch for that. |
01:56 |
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dcook |
authority matching? |
01:56 |
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wahanui |
There's a patch for that. |
01:56 |
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dcook |
hehe |
01:56 |
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dcook |
It would be rather handy |
01:56 |
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wizzyrea |
I don't recall the bug # |
01:56 |
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dcook |
I wonder what you would match on.. |
01:56 |
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wizzyrea |
I do recall that it needed some love |
01:57 |
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jcamins |
Bug 5202. |
01:57 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Merge authority records |
01:57 |
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wizzyrea |
oh passed QA! when did that happen! |
01:58 |
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dcook |
Hmm |
01:58 |
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wizzyrea |
authority matching is also <reply> bug 5202 |
01:58 |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
01:58 |
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wizzyrea |
authority matching? |
01:58 |
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wahanui |
bug 5202 |
01:58 |
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dcook |
Based on the comments, that wouldn't be very useful for bulk imports though |
01:59 |
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jcamins |
dcook: what are you trying to do? |
01:59 |
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dcook |
Ideally, import annual authority updates |
01:59 |
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dcook |
Mind you...now that I think about it... |
01:59 |
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jcamins |
If you are bulk importing multiple copies of a given authority record, you're doing it wrong. |
01:59 |
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* dcook |
ponders this a second |
01:59 |
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jcamins |
Oh, in that case, yeah, that's already there. |
02:00 |
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dcook |
I mean different authority types |
02:00 |
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jcamins |
Wait... |
02:00 |
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jcamins |
no, there's a patch for that. |
02:00 |
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dcook |
But maybe each authority file would just be one type... |
02:00 |
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* dcook |
would have his doubts though |
02:00 |
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jcamins |
Hmmm. |
02:01 |
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jcamins |
Why can't you do it? |
02:01 |
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dcook |
Well, at this point I'm on an old 3.8, so it's a moot point |
02:01 |
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dcook |
But I'm just pondering how it would work in newer versions |
02:01 |
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dcook |
Say I were downloading the new MeSH update |
02:02 |
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dcook |
That's some...1700-1800 new or modified authority records |
02:02 |
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jcamins |
I'd overlay them based on MeSH identifier. |
02:02 |
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jcamins |
071, maybe? |
02:02 |
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dcook |
Oooh... |
02:02 |
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dcook |
It might help if I actually "look" at a MeSH record, eh? ;) |
02:02 |
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jcamins |
No, 060 |
02:03 |
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jcamins |
No, not 060. |
02:03 |
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rangi |
01892371 |
02:03 |
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rangi |
im helping im helping |
02:03 |
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dcook |
lol |
02:05 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I don't see any identifier :/ |
02:05 |
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jcamins |
035 looks like your best bet. |
02:05 |
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jcamins |
I thought they had another one, but maybe not. |
02:06 |
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jcamins |
Or they don't use it. |
02:08 |
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dcook |
I think they might just use it for bib records |
02:08 |
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dcook |
Or the MARC authority frameworks are stripping it out perhaps |
02:08 |
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jcamins |
I have a problem. |
02:09 |
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jcamins |
I can't find the menu in Windows 8. |
02:09 |
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jcamins |
The problem is using Windows, of course. |
02:09 |
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dcook |
I don't know if there is a menu |
02:10 |
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wizzyrea |
windows 8. I'm so sorry. |
02:10 |
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dcook |
I've only used Windows 8 twice though |
02:10 |
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dcook |
Ahhh! |
02:10 |
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dcook |
I found some personal name auth records that have a 035! |
02:12 |
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jcamins |
So, I have a puzzle for you. |
02:12 |
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jcamins |
I found a Java program I want to run. |
02:13 |
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jcamins |
I use a Mac. Or Linux. Or FreeBSD. |
02:13 |
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jcamins |
Java is platform-independent. |
02:13 |
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jcamins |
So why do I need to find a Windows computer to run the Java program? |
02:13 |
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rangi |
embrace and extend |
02:14 |
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rangi |
couple with oracle |
02:14 |
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jcamins |
But... wtf? Why don't you just use a non-awful application development language if you're going to write something Windows-only? |
02:14 |
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rangi |
people are mental |
02:16 |
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jcamins |
This proves how motivated I am to try this software. |
02:16 |
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* jcamins |
is now in Windows 7. |
02:17 |
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jcamins |
Okay. |
02:17 |
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jcamins |
Got it to run. |
02:17 |
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jcamins |
"THIS IS A SECURITY RISK" -- no kidding. It's Windows. |
02:18 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add jcamins: "THIS IS A SECURITY RISK" -- no kidding. It's Windows. |
02:18 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #272 added. |
02:18 |
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jcamins |
I am so glad that I downloaded a web browser, Java, *and* the software just to be told what version of Java I had running. |
02:19 |
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jcamins |
Before I installed Java I didn't have any version of Java running. |
02:19 |
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jcamins |
And knowing that I was just as well off as I am now. |
02:19 |
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rangi |
heh |
02:22 |
|
jcamins |
Ummmm... |
02:22 |
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jcamins |
I am looking at a citation analysis tool. |
02:23 |
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jcamins |
It offers WoS and PubMed citation analysis. |
02:23 |
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jcamins |
I tried the WoS one. It was cool. |
02:23 |
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jcamins |
So I tried the PubMed one. |
02:23 |
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jcamins |
And after downloading the file it informs me that PubMed doesn't include citations so it won't be analyzing them. |
02:27 |
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wizzyrea |
...helpful. |
02:30 |
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dcook |
:S |
02:30 |
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jcamins |
Super-helpful. |
02:34 |
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* jcamins |
just found something we should add to Koha: http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/co[…]_the_web_problem/ |
02:35 |
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wizzyrea |
oh my gracious. |
02:36 |
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* wizzyrea |
is still blinking |
02:36 |
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dcook |
O_O |
02:36 |
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jcamins |
Possibly just rolling. |
02:37 |
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jcamins |
We hope. |
02:37 |
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jcamins |
Hey, I know! I think I'll run twelve updates to Windows now. |
02:37 |
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dcook |
Oh God...it just gets worse the more I scroll... |
02:38 |
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wizzyrea |
< is aghast |
02:38 |
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dcook |
That has to be fake.. |
02:38 |
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wizzyrea |
.... |
02:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
it gets quite a bit funnier towards the middle |
02:40 |
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wizzyrea |
like actually funny |
02:42 |
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dcook |
hehe, there are some rather entertaining bits |
02:43 |
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dcook |
I'm rather amazed that so many people posted |
02:44 |
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dcook |
...and that I'm still reading this |
03:13 |
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* mtompset |
wakes up from stasis. WHAT?! That is ultra-mega-stupid security-wise. |
03:30 |
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mtompset |
Good thing someone told me to assume jcamins' comments are frequently surrounded by sarcasm tags. ;) |
03:31 |
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mtompset |
Well, have a great day, #koha. |
03:57 |
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wizzyrea |
campbell++ for tackling hard things! |
04:57 |
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dcook |
campbell++ |
05:00 |
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05:06 |
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dcook |
hey cait |
05:07 |
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cait |
morning dcook |
05:10 |
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dcook |
how's the morning? |
05:18 |
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dcook |
jcamins++ |
05:19 |
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dcook |
gmcharlt++ |
05:19 |
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dcook |
Authority linking stuff... |
05:25 |
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cait |
:) |
05:25 |
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dcook |
Hmm |
05:26 |
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dcook |
I keep thinking there are two preferences for hiding things in the OPAC... |
05:26 |
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dcook |
OpacSuppresion and another one.. |
05:26 |
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rangi |
hiddenitems |
05:26 |
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dcook |
Yes, that's it |
05:26 |
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dcook |
Thanks, rangi :) |
05:26 |
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dcook |
I should've searched "hid" instead of "hide" |
05:28 |
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dcook |
Oh, that "OpacSuppression" doesn't look too bad |
05:28 |
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* dcook |
wonders if we handle "deleted" records at all |
05:29 |
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dcook |
Leader position 05 "d" |
05:31 |
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dcook |
Hmm, doesn't look like it |
05:33 |
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dcook |
Can't say I've ever had anyone ask for that though. |
05:37 |
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cait |
dcook: no we don't right now |
05:49 |
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dcook |
IE is such a weird browser... |
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* magnuse |
waves |
06:16 |
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magnuse |
there was a patch with a script related to to leader/05=d... |
06:17 |
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magnuse |
i think? |
06:18 |
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magnuse |
dcook: bug 10421 |
06:18 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Add cron script to delete deleted records |
06:22 |
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magnuse |
rangi: https://github.com/MagnusEnger[…]477acb8f3df8e2cab :-) |
06:22 |
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rangi |
sweet |
06:24 |
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* dcook |
perks up |
06:24 |
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dcook |
I think these painkillers need more alcohol.. |
06:24 |
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magnuse |
?!? |
06:25 |
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magnuse |
awww... http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]KohaCon13_Program |
06:25 |
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dcook |
Well, they haven't had any alcohol yet :p |
06:27 |
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dcook |
Why the aww, magnuse? |
06:34 |
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magnuse |
because i want to go there... |
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06:41 |
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magnuse |
bonjour sophie_m et reiveune |
06:41 |
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reiveune |
hello magnuse dcook everyone |
06:41 |
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dcook |
magnuse: Go where? |
06:41 |
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dcook |
hey ya reiveune :) |
06:42 |
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magnuse |
dcook: to kohacon2013 in reno |
06:43 |
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dcook |
You're not going currently? :( |
06:44 |
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dcook |
Oh...I wish there was item matching as well during imports.. |
06:44 |
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dcook |
Hmm, maybe it doesn't matter... |
06:44 |
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dcook |
The imports that is |
06:44 |
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dcook |
It would be great to see you at a kohacon, magnuse :) |
06:45 |
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dcook |
15 minutes to break a busted table-based layout. Can I do it? I don't know... |
06:46 |
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dcook |
^^ Comes from a thing where my grammar teacher used to say "You have 15 minutes to finish 30 questions. Can you do it? YES!" |
06:46 |
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dcook |
She was very optimistic...:p |
06:46 |
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dcook |
s/optimistic/authoritarian/ |
06:47 |
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magnuse |
dcook: yeah, there are lots of people i want to meet, you included. are you going to reno? |
06:48 |
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dcook |
Yep. I'm presenting on Dspace + Koha on the Thursday afternoon |
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dcook |
Hopefully I'll have a decent prototype of this OAI-PMH harvester ready by then so I can talk about it ;) |
06:48 |
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drojf |
mrng |
06:48 |
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dcook |
Guten Morgen, drojf |
06:49 |
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drojf |
hi dcook |
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06:53 |
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magnuse |
dcook: ah, so you don't see the harvesting in 3.14? |
06:53 |
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* dcook |
tries to remember when the feature freeze is |
06:53 |
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dcook |
feature freeze? |
06:53 |
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wahanui |
feature freeze is 3 October 2013 |
06:53 |
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dcook |
Mmm |
06:53 |
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dcook |
That could happen |
06:54 |
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dcook |
Actually, probably not |
06:54 |
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dcook |
I did the z39.50 authority search a while ago and that was a much more straightforward feature |
06:55 |
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* dcook |
is unsure whether to post his current work and get feedback, or to wait until he's got it the way he wants it THEN get feedback |
06:55 |
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magnuse |
release early, release often? |
06:55 |
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magnuse |
better to get feedback before things are too settled? |
06:56 |
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dcook |
Hmm, that's true |
06:56 |
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dcook |
It is getting to the point where there are options and I'm sure of the best route |
06:56 |
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dcook |
And places where I could use a second pair of eyes just to catch mistakes/improve the code quality |
06:57 |
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magnuse |
sounds like yo are ready for feedback to me :-) |
06:57 |
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dcook |
Well, maybe tomorrow I'll have to post my current work |
06:57 |
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magnuse |
yay |
06:58 |
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dcook |
The documentation needs a bit of work but I've tried to comment the crap out of it |
06:58 |
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magnuse |
hehe, nice |
06:58 |
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dcook |
And lots of POD for the class |
06:58 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
06:58 |
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magnuse |
tests? |
06:58 |
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wahanui |
tests is, like, http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Unit_Tests |
06:58 |
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dcook |
Ah, that's something I'm wanting to add soonish as well |
06:59 |
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dcook |
At the moment, I've got one PM, one PL (which is the start of a cronjob), and...two XSLTs |
06:59 |
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dcook |
One for transforming DC to MARC21 (which needs a fair bit of work) |
06:59 |
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dcook |
And one for adding a few fields to incoming MARC21 records |
07:00 |
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drojf |
nice |
07:00 |
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drojf |
dcook++ |
07:00 |
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magnuse |
yeah dcook++ |
07:00 |
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dcook |
Thanks :) |
07:01 |
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magnuse |
someone on facebook just suggested a dro who skin/theme for koha. wizzyrea? rangi? |
07:01 |
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dcook |
:D |
07:02 |
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07:04 |
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rangi |
need someoone with design schools, and that aint me |
07:06 |
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magnuse |
rangi: :-) |
07:06 |
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rangi |
skills even |
07:06 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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07:22 |
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kf |
hi all :) |
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07:25 |
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dcook |
O_O |
07:25 |
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dcook |
hey kf |
07:25 |
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dcook |
And hey eythian?! |
07:25 |
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wahanui |
go back to bed, eythian |
07:25 |
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kf |
hi dcook :) |
07:25 |
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magnuse |
hiya trendynick kf and eythian |
07:25 |
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eythian |
hi |
07:25 |
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kf |
good morning magnuse :) |
07:26 |
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dcook |
eythian: Back from vacation? |
07:26 |
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eythian |
no, just at my laptop for the first time in a few weeks |
07:26 |
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kf |
you remembered the password |
07:26 |
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kf |
? |
07:26 |
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kf |
impressive :) |
07:26 |
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dcook |
Mmm, well, your absence has been noted! |
07:27 |
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dcook |
#koha doesn't seem the same without you |
07:27 |
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eythian |
kf: muscle memory :) |
07:27 |
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eythian |
dcook: it sounds terrible! |
07:27 |
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kf |
pf. |
07:28 |
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dcook |
There's been a serious lack of pithy links |
07:28 |
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dcook |
Hope the vacation has been/continues to be good |
07:28 |
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dcook |
night all |
07:28 |
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wahanui |
goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
07:29 |
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magnuse |
heh, wahanui is the only one quick enough to say goodnight to dcook |
07:30 |
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eythian |
it takes a robot... |
07:31 |
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eythian |
oh goody, over 1000 unread emails |
07:31 |
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magnuse |
lol |
07:31 |
|
* magnuse |
finally gets around to realising http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Template:DevBook - far from perfect, but hey: release early, release often... |
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magnuse |
if anyone can think of other pages that (new) devs should be aware of, please add them or give me a hint |
07:32 |
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rangi |
hmm i did one |
07:33 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/I_want_to_help |
07:34 |
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magnuse |
goody! added |
07:35 |
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kf |
magnuse++ |
07:36 |
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magnuse |
OMGWTFBBQ? lol! |
07:38 |
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eythian |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]riting-NZ-history <-- oh cool |
07:41 |
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magnuse |
in norway we have a saying along the lines of "things are never so bad that something good can't come from it"... |
07:41 |
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kf |
:) |
07:42 |
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magnuse |
or "never so bad that it's not good for something" |
07:45 |
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kf |
that's optimistic, i like it |
07:45 |
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magnuse |
it's very optimistic :-) |
07:45 |
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eythian |
clouds, silver linings, that sort of thing :) |
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magnuse |
ah yes, that would be the english equivalent - i knew there had to be one :-) |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p |
07:49 |
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paul_p |
hello #koha |
07:50 |
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eythian |
also "it's an ill wind that blows no minds" ... no wait ... "it's an ill wind that blows nobody any good" |
07:50 |
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kf |
hi paul_p |
07:50 |
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eythian |
hello paul_p |
07:50 |
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magnuse |
eythian: hadn't heard that one - nice! |
07:51 |
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eythian |
or in its original form, apparently: "An yll wynde that blowth no man to good, men say." |
07:51 |
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magnuse |
aye, 'tis that! |
07:55 |
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kf |
meeting - bbiab |
07:59 |
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paul_p |
hey eythian, seems you're close to France atm ? |
07:59 |
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paul_p |
eythian / rangi = NZ is really a wise country... http://www.zdnet.com/new-zeala[…]tents-7000019955/ |
08:02 |
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eythian |
paul_p: in the netherlands at the moment, but back home tomorrow. Didn't make it to france this trip. |
08:02 |
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paul_p |
eythian safe travelling back home then ! |
08:03 |
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eythian |
ta :) |
08:04 |
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eythian |
and yeah, the patents thing was a long time in the coming |
08:07 |
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magnuse |
the comments seemed a bit obering, though? |
08:08 |
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magnuse |
s/obering/sobering/ |
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eythian |
don't read the comments. |
08:13 |
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eythian |
that's a blanket policy for almost all sites. |
08:40 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
08:45 |
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kf |
back |
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longrider |
lost Status not found in Item add |
10:32 |
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longrider |
please help me in this regard |
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elemark |
hallo |
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nengard |
morning #koha long time no see |
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elemark |
how should I pack a marc file for the import so that it includes item info, too? |
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eythian |
put the item info into 952, one 952 per item |
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tcohen |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
hi tcohen |
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nengard |
the info on the 952 can be found in the manual :) http://manual.koha-community.o[…]html#itemcatguide |
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tcohen |
eythian: i should just add /etc/bash-completion/koha-common then? |
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eythian |
yeah |
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tcohen |
great |
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tcohen |
another question |
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wahanui |
another question is how useful it is to have "save as rdf" option... |
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magnuse |
elemark: see also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
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eythian |
that way, if someone installs the bash-completion package later, it'll magically work. And if not, it won't do anything. |
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magnuse |
wahanui: forget another question |
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wahanui |
magnuse: I forgot another question |
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tcohen |
when is debian/rules used? after 'make install'? |
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eythian |
I liked that question :/ |
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elemark |
thanks a lot |
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eythian |
tcohen: erm |
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elemark |
I'm having a look at those links |
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eythian |
it runs make install |
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eythian |
but it does it using magic |
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tcohen |
i'm tracking the fact that my patch didn't fix the history.txt problem in packages |
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tcohen |
override_dh_auto_install does a rm -rf on the docs dir |
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tcohen |
should i install $(TMP)/usr/share/koha/doc/history.txt somewhere just before that? |
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eythian |
that seems reasonable I think |
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eythian |
it rm's it presumably because you can't leave stuff lying around, or the package build process will complain. |
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elemark |
ok, maybe it's not so easy as I thought |
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tcohen |
ok, will build and check the result :-D |
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elemark |
thanks, tcohen, I believe that building will be a great work |
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eythian |
elemark: oh hey, where in Italy are you? |
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elemark |
turin |
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eythian |
ah cool. I was touristing in Rome and Florince about a week ago. |
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elemark |
the fact is that I've not been told to do such attempt, so I don't believe my boss would be happy to know i dedicate days of work to this :( |
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elemark |
@eythian wow! did you have a good trip? |
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huginn` |
elemark: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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eythian |
yeah, it was good. Saw things I'd only ever seen in pictures before, ate a lot of gelato, that sort of thing :) |
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elemark |
huginn`: sorry, what's RDA? |
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huginn` |
elemark: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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eythian |
huginn` is a bot, and starting a line with '@' is how you make him do stuff. |
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huginn` |
eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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eythian |
or starting with its name... |
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elemark |
eythian: :) thanks, I'm not using IRC since 10 years or more |
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elemark |
though I can see no '@' in front of any name |
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elemark |
maybe it's empathy |
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eythian |
no, you put an @ in front of my name. |
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elemark |
aaaah, sorry |
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elemark |
right, I understand (late but I do) |
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tcohen |
eythian: debian/koha-common.bash-completion ;-) |
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paul_p |
kf = flight booked. Landing at RNO, on 13th, at 19:26 |
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tcohen |
hi paul_p |
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paul_p |
hi tcohen. Good morning |
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kf |
someone from bywater around? :) |
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kf |
khall, nengard |
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kf |
? |
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nengard |
i'm here |
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nengard |
what's up? |
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khall |
yo |
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kf |
bug 10801 looks like a support request for you :) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10801 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ERROR: Barcode must be unique |
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khall |
that name doesn't ring a bell, how about for you nengard? |
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nengard |
khall she's new |
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kf |
just thought you might be able to help out better than i can here |
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khall |
lol, thanks kf! |
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rambutan |
@seen rangi |
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huginn` |
rambutan: rangi was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 57 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <rangi> http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/I_want_to_help |
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kf |
rambutan: still night in nz :) |
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rambutan |
no excuse! |
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khall |
it seems as though wizzyrea has been trying to reach me. Stupid time zones! |
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rambutan |
:) |
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kf |
khall: i think it might have been about the bug she was testing, i saw that she left comments there |
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kf |
khall: patron... lists? |
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khall |
ahh, thanks again kf! |
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kf |
only a guess :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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rambutan |
morning mtompset |
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mtompset |
Greetings, rambutan. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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* oleonard |
finally drags in after a morning meeting |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard. |
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mtompset |
I have a meeting shortly myself. :) |
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* chris_n |
's Firefox has an Internet Explorer moment |
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tcohen |
hi oleonard mtompset |
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mtompset |
Sounds like you are using the IETab plug in. ;) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, chris_n and tcohen. :) |
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chris_n |
heh |
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chris_n |
heya mtompset |
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wahanui |
somebody said mtompset was disliking finding bugs while testing. |
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mtompset |
There much less likely to trigger a "WHAT?!" kind of moment that before. :) |
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* tcohen |
realizes we need lots of cleanup in debian/* |
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druthb |
Hi, mtompset! :) |
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mtompset |
tcohen: There's lots of clean up everywhere! :) I'm working on a INSTALL.ubuntu re-write. |
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tcohen |
please don't replace it with packages instructions |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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mtompset |
I'm not. |
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mtompset |
I'm trying for a source based install with occasional: IF YOU ARE DOING A DEV INSTALLATION, IF YOU ARE DOING A STANDARD INSTALLATION. |
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mtompset |
I'm also leaving out all the sample output and answers for some of the commands. |
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mtompset |
I'm nearly finished the re-write, but I need to test it out, so that it is simple enough for a unfamiliar with Koha, but kind of familiar with Linux person should be able to do it. |
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tcohen |
please let me test it too when you're done |
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mtompset |
I'll be putting it up as a patch. |
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mtompset |
You can have the pleasure of signing off when it is done. ;) |
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mtompset |
I was wondering if I should even leaving everyone's names in the credits section. |
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mtompset |
leave (not leaving) |
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mtompset |
I'm not sure anyone is going to recognize their part at all, by the time I'm done. :) |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "I need some jquery help please" (26 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/189 |
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* oleonard |
finds that if he uses custom XSL for OPAC results (at a remote URL) that OPACItemsResultsDisplay stops working... |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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nengard |
how so? |
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nengard |
we're not having that problem |
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oleonard |
I have OPACItemsResultsDisplay set to show library, location, and call number |
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nengard |
oh wait |
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nengard |
wrong pref |
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nengard |
sorry ... am tired |
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oleonard |
If I point our OPACXSLTResultsDisplay to a customized XSL file we stop seeing call number info in OPAC search results |
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nengard |
does that pref work with xslt at all? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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oleonard |
I can't reproduce the problem in master, but I see it on our live system |
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* oleonard |
should test in 3.10.x |
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jcamins |
oleonard: are you sure your customized XSLT includes that syspref? |
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oleonard |
All I did was add some RDA tag display to a stock XSL file |
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jcamins |
Odd. |
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jcamins |
Out of curiosity, which tags? |
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oleonard |
264 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Makes sense. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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nengard |
jcamins i need help with your jquyer |
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nengard |
jquery |
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nengard |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ges_are_not_found |
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nengard |
look at result 3 & 4: http://catalog.marlboro.edu/cg[…]arch.pl?q=library |
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nengard |
and 5 for that matter ... |
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jcamins |
Huh. I find myself wondering about that jQuery. |
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jcamins |
A) I could've sworn I got it off the wiki from you. |
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jcamins |
B) I could've sworn it was longer. |
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jcamins |
Actually, never mind. That's a workaround for something else entirely. |
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jcamins |
Just use Marlboro's CSS. |
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jcamins |
Oh, that is Marlboro's catalog, isn't it? |
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nengard |
yup |
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nengard |
they wanted to use a bookplate instead of the no image found |
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nengard |
so ... other ideas? :) |
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jcamins |
There's a CSS-only solution. |
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nengard |
oh |
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jcamins |
Unfortunately, the place I remember seeing it was in Marlboro's opacusercss. |
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nengard |
crap |
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nengard |
removed the jquery |
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mtompset |
backups are your friend. :) |
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oleonard |
A lesson from your day mtompset? |
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mtompset |
once or twice. :) |
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mtompset |
thankfully not today. |
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* cait |
waves |
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magnuse |
revision history for sysprefs? |
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* magnuse |
waves to cait |
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cait |
:) |
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druthb |
hi, cait! :D |
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druthb |
wahanui: cait? |
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wahanui |
cait: go to bed |
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druthb |
lol |
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cait |
hi druthb :) |
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cait |
lol not yet |
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cait |
i don't have pixies doing the laundry for me |
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cait |
or the dishes |
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oleonard |
Dish pixies. |
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oleonard |
I just like saying that. Dish pixies. |
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cait |
and laundry pixies heh |
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cait |
yeah, dish pixies are a fabulous idea |
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druthb |
hmpf. |
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* druthb |
has *pixie* as an alert word in her client. |
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jcamins |
Pixie? |
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* druthb |
perks |
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oleonard |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf20Effo6ds |
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oleonard |
Seriously, "liblivecd?" |
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oleonard |
Oh, I thought that was something it's not. |
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oleonard |
Looks like it's a crapshoot what version you get if you dowload that, depending on where you go. |
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cait |
pixie? |
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Nicole C. Engard: update bsort1 and bsort2 to be clearer |
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Nicole C. Engard: update bsort1 and bsort2 to be clearer |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: update bsort1 and bsort2 to be clearer |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: update bsort1 and bsort2 to be clearer |
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magnuse |
druthb: you might want to check out http://www.allaboutjazz.com/ph[…]icle.php?id=20662 |
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magnuse |
(dunno why i have not thought about that before...) |
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* tcohen |
grumbles ("why deb building scripts are so tricky?...") |
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cait |
dunno :) |
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* cait |
hands tcohen a cookie |
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tcohen |
thx cait |
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tcohen |
dh_compress --exclude=history.txt |
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* cait |
is in a good mood because the cold seems to give in finally :) |
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tcohen |
bug 10802 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10802 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , history.txt missing in packages |
18:13 |
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magnuse |
sweet as |
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phasefx_ |
if you change a perl module in C4, do you need an apache restart, or does a reload suffice? |
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tcohen |
no restart/reload required |
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phasefx_ |
cool deal, thanks! |
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magnuse |
as long as you are not using plack (but then you would probably not be using apache...) |
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tcohen |
heh, exactly |
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tcohen |
magnuse, could you tell me how does the patch look for you? |
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tcohen |
roughly |
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magnuse |
tcohen: it looks like deep, deep magic ;-) |
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magnuse |
i have no idea what is going on there. i could test it, but alas i have no time for it in the next 2 weeks |
18:24 |
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tcohen |
np magnuse |
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phasefx_ |
I have a site running 3.04.08.001, and I believe a recent backported security patch broke access to the Serials interface. I get Template process failed: file error - datatables-strings.inc: not found at blah/C4/Templates.pm line 126. I know this was fixed for another site running the same version, but the few differences I saw in C4/ don't seem to make a difference. Any suggestions for where |
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phasefx_ |
I should look? |
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cait |
have you checked the inc file is there? |
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cait |
it will be in the template folders |
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cait |
that's unlikely to be a C4 problem - more a template problem |
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phasefx_ |
I'm not sure that this version of koha even uses that file |
18:38 |
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oleonard |
intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/datatables.inc |
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* phasefx_ |
looks |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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cait |
and what security fix did you backport? |
18:39 |
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oleonard |
intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/datatables-strings.inc, that is. |
18:39 |
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phasefx_ |
that I don't know; I'm usually immersed in Evergreen, but I can dig for it |
18:39 |
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cait |
if it was the one for opacsearchhistory that looks unrelated |
18:39 |
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cait |
i can't remember on ein serials. hm. |
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oleonard |
I don't see that file listed in 3.4.x. I don't think 3.4.x used DataTables at all. |
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* cait |
agrees with oleonard |
18:41 |
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cait |
i think 3.6 had some first datatables |
18:42 |
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phasefx_ |
that was my impression rooting around in the file system; there's a Utils.pm instead of a Utils/ |
18:43 |
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phasefx_ |
the working site doesn't have datatables-strings.inc |
18:46 |
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oleonard |
I can't understand why a security patch would change a template in that way. |
18:47 |
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phasefx_ |
it was http://koha-community.org/secu[…]elease-july-2013/ |
18:49 |
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cait |
hm |
18:49 |
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cait |
did you just pick the top three commits from there? |
18:49 |
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cait |
or did you update the version? |
18:49 |
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oleonard |
Those commits don't touch any serials templates |
18:49 |
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tcohen |
magnuse: i'm resuming my work on bash-completion |
18:50 |
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tcohen |
do u think i should consider the koha-list patch for --sip --nosip ? |
18:51 |
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magnuse |
tcohen: not sure what you mean? |
18:52 |
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magnuse |
take those options into account, so if you do --sip you only autocomplete one the ones that have sip enabled? |
18:52 |
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tcohen |
;-) |
18:52 |
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magnuse |
s/one /on / |
18:52 |
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oleonard |
I'm officially declaring Bug 10309 "needs signoff" |
18:52 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
18:52 |
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tcohen |
right now i have: |
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magnuse |
woohoo oleonard++ |
18:53 |
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tcohen |
- substract already passed instance names |
18:53 |
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tcohen |
- conditional switches fr a few scripts handled correctly |
18:53 |
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magnuse |
tcohen: if i understand you right it sounds like a possible future enh to me :-) |
18:54 |
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tcohen |
i just need to push some of this work so it gets peer reviewed before starting the most difficult scripts' completions |
18:55 |
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cait |
oleonard: woohoo :) |
18:55 |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
18:55 |
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oleonard |
I'm sure there's stuff I haven't caught, but I don't think I'll get any serious testing without asking for a signoff |
18:56 |
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* oleonard |
will consider borrowing magnuse's GBSD whip if necessary |
18:56 |
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* magnuse |
hands it to oleonard, just in case |
18:56 |
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oleonard |
Time to leave though. I'll save the whippings for later. |
18:56 |
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oleonard |
See ya #koha |
18:57 |
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tcohen |
oleonard++ |
18:57 |
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magnuse |
tcohen: submitting some of it sounds like a good idea, to not make the patch too big and complex |
18:57 |
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phasefx_ |
oleonard: cait: I need to work on my reading comprehension I think; ticket mentions the security fix, but also additional issues with that specific branch they're using. Sorry for the goosechase |
18:57 |
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cait |
phasefx_that's ok - well then it's another commit |
18:58 |
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cait |
could you check the last change made to the template file? |
18:58 |
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cait |
i think you are going wrong looking in the perl and C4 files - datatables is javascript and templates |
18:58 |
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cait |
so you want to look in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/serials or something like that |
18:58 |
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phasefx_ |
cait: 2bace14e5c06d909fc65ad17c031b4d7e4b3acb6 |
18:59 |
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phasefx_ |
well, that's for Template.pm |
18:59 |
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cait |
yah |
18:59 |
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cait |
i don't think your problem is there |
18:59 |
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cait |
look at the template for the page you are trying to view |
18:59 |
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cait |
that causes the problem |
19:00 |
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phasefx_ |
it's all clear now |
19:01 |
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phasefx_ |
need to revert 3fe0c347c2a90dc65837a4653c24f40de9e7ce3d |
19:02 |
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phasefx_ |
cait++ oleonard++ |
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cait |
yv - hope it works |
19:03 |
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phasefx_ |
I had part of it, but was missing the changes to serials-home.tt |
19:03 |
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cait |
yeah, that one looks really suspicious .) |
19:11 |
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phasefx_ |
that did the trick |
19:12 |
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cait |
cool :) |
19:14 |
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magnuse |
have fun, #koha! |
19:14 |
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tcohen |
wait! |
19:16 |
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* cait |
wiats |
19:16 |
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tcohen |
bye cait |
19:16 |
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tcohen |
:-D |
19:17 |
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phasefx_ |
fun now? :) |
19:17 |
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cait |
? |
19:17 |
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* cait |
is stlil here |
19:17 |
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tcohen |
please |
19:17 |
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cait |
tcohen: you want me to leave? |
19:18 |
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tcohen |
i'm done, you're free |
19:18 |
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tcohen |
:-P |
19:19 |
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cait |
*confused* |
19:20 |
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* tcohen |
*too* |
19:20 |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
19:22 |
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phasefx_ |
I think they just wanted to leave before magnuse? :) |
19:26 |
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* cait |
i still here |
19:26 |
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* cait |
will be for some time :) |
19:47 |
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jcamins |
phasefx_: you've been encouraged to upgrade to a modern version, right? |
19:49 |
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phasefx_ |
jcamins: I think we encourage but don't force, for the most part |
19:50 |
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jcamins |
Oh, you're with ESI. |
19:50 |
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* jcamins |
had forgotten. |
19:50 |
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phasefx_ |
yeap, and when gmcharlt is away, I get to play... :) |
19:51 |
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Dyrcona |
Do you all typically sign your git commits with -s ? |
19:52 |
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cait |
I know gmcharlt does it, but most people don't sign their own patches currently |
19:52 |
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Dyrcona |
cait thanks. |
19:52 |
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cait |
the testers do |
19:52 |
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cait |
and qa and RM |
19:52 |
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Dyrcona |
I see. |
19:52 |
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Dyrcona |
Makes sense. |
19:52 |
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jcamins |
Also when rebasing, often. |
19:52 |
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cait |
ah yes, for putting in a note it's used as well |
19:53 |
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Dyrcona |
In Evergreen-land, we do things a bit differently but that's cool. |
19:53 |
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Dyrcona |
I'm looking at some commits to a joint project done by rangi, so I thought I'd ask what your usual procedure is. |
19:53 |
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jcamins |
It certainly wouldn't cause any problems to self-sign. |
19:53 |
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Dyrcona |
I'll just sign them after I test and then push to master. |
19:54 |
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cait |
as I said - gmcharlt does it in koha land too :) |
19:54 |
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Dyrcona |
We have some commits with up to four signatures. |
19:54 |
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cait |
we are not opposed to it |
19:54 |
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cait |
that we have too :) - but those are testers then |
19:54 |
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cait |
most of the time |
19:54 |
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Dyrcona |
Typically, the one who wrote the code signs, the one tests it, and the committer. |
19:55 |
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cait |
yeah, we have the same then - because one more for the qa team, one less for the code write |
19:55 |
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cait |
r |
19:55 |
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jcamins |
cait: I think we've probably reached dozens of signatures on a single commit. |
19:55 |
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jcamins |
Mostly my fault. |
19:55 |
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cait |
hehe |
19:55 |
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Dyrcona |
Thanks for the little discussion. It has helped me decide how to proceed. |
19:56 |
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cait |
Dyrcona: i suspect rangi would have no problem with signing his patches |
19:56 |
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Dyrcona |
gmcharlt just signs everything.. ;) |
19:56 |
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jcamins |
Write patch, submit. Rebase. Sign off. Rebase again. Sign off again. Get sign off. Rebase. Sign off. Rebase. Sign off. Get QA feedback. Write follow-up. Sign off. Get additional sign off... etc. |
19:56 |
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Dyrcona |
cait: likely, but it is ok with me if he doesn't. |
19:56 |
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* cait |
suggest just talking to him :) |
19:57 |
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jcamins |
They self-sign on other projects at Catalyst. |
19:57 |
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rangi |
yep, i can self sign |
19:57 |
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Dyrcona |
wasn't sure what time it was for you. ;) |
19:57 |
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* rangi |
will do it from now |
19:57 |
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rangi |
7.57 |
19:57 |
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Dyrcona |
OK. cool. |
19:57 |
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jcamins |
Breakfast time, I think. |
19:57 |
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rangi |
taking kids to school soon and then work |
19:57 |
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jcamins |
Tomorrow. |
19:57 |
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wahanui |
i heard tomorrow was pizza friday! or the day after today. |
19:58 |
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Dyrcona |
let me know when it is beer o'clock, and I'll join you. :) |
19:58 |
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wahanui |
That would be factoid 31337 given on #koha by Dyrcona. |
19:58 |
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wahanui |
woohoo! |
19:59 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
19:59 |
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rangi |
4in 8 hours |
19:59 |
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rangi |
hmm in 8 hours even, at 4pm |
20:00 |
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rangi |
i did a few more commits |
20:00 |
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rangi |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]23dcfbdbcfac1f4d3 |
20:00 |
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rangi |
nothing much substantial yet |
20:00 |
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rangi |
altho this is kinda cool |
20:01 |
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rangi |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]5dbb6e9b78650f236 |
20:01 |
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Dyrcona |
Yeah, I picked those up, 'cause I just pulled. |
20:01 |
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cait |
ooh ncip |
20:01 |
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rangi |
sweet |
20:01 |
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Dyrcona |
sweet as |
20:01 |
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Dyrcona |
;) |
20:01 |
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Dyrcona |
btw, that's what I called your remote, "sweetas." |
20:01 |
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rangi |
so it starts up a server listening on localhost 6001 (or whatever the config says) all it does is echo what you type back, but its a nice way to test |
20:02 |
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rangi |
hehe |
20:02 |
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rangi |
cool |
20:02 |
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Dyrcona |
yeah, |
20:02 |
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Dyrcona |
I think someone in Minnesota has put up a skeletal mod-perl, but I have to look at the branch, first. |
20:03 |
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rangi |
sweet |
20:03 |
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rangi |
ill probably do a dancer implemenation too |
20:03 |
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rangi |
cos all the heavy lifting is done int he modules |
20:04 |
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rangi |
that would give us raw tcp, mod_perl, or psgi to choose from |
20:04 |
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Dyrcona |
very nice. |
20:08 |
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cait |
rangi++ Dyrcona++ :) |
20:18 |
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Dyrcona |
rangi++ |
20:25 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.7°C (10:25 PM CEST on August 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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rambutan |
@wunder 64507 |
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huginn` |
rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 36.5°C (3:42 PM CDT on August 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect from noon to 7 PM CDT Friday... |
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cait |
hm what do people think about 10796 |
20:43 |
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cait |
bug 10796 |
20:43 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10796 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Allow OpacPasswordChange to be set by category type |
20:43 |
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cait |
i am pondering what to do about the system preference, when you can make that setting in the patron category |
20:45 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn` |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on August 30, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
20:45 |
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rangi |
Dropped the kids off, dropped my car off, now waiting for a bus |
20:48 |
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cait |
where did you leave the car? |
20:48 |
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cait |
car school? :) |
20:48 |
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cait |
bad joke, i know |
20:48 |
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rangi |
Hehe the house |
20:49 |
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rangi |
I don't like to have it if I'm going to have a beer |
20:49 |
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cait |
:) |
20:50 |
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cait |
very clever |
20:58 |
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rangi |
I noticed, if you install the eventbase app and search for Koha the kohacon programme is there |
21:05 |
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magnuse |
cait: maybe keep the syspref, so you can set a baseline with that, and if you don't want any categories to deviate from that setting you don't have to set each category |
21:07 |
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mtompset |
rangi++ # responsible drinking habits. |
21:10 |
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magnuse |
have fun, #koha! |
21:10 |
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cait |
magnuse: i think it might be confusing - because you don't see the syspref setting on the page... |
21:11 |
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cait |
hm |
21:11 |
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magnuse |
cait: that could be fixed :-) |
21:11 |
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cait |
yah |
21:12 |
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cait |
but we don't do that in other places |
21:12 |
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cait |
i am trying to see a common pattern |
21:12 |
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cait |
well find one |
21:12 |
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cait |
maybe a third setting for OpacChangePassword |
21:12 |
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cait |
Use category |
21:12 |
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cait |
then make the option show up on the patron category form only when it#s set to that |
21:12 |
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cait |
still seems overly complicated |
21:14 |
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wizzyrea |
you could just put it in the category, and have it off by default (if that's what the syspref value is currently) |
21:14 |
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wizzyrea |
and just not have an option of global off or global on |
21:15 |
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wizzyrea |
just make it something that people have to set, like overdue notices |
21:15 |
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wizzyrea |
per category |
21:16 |
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wizzyrea |
so get rid of the syspref, enforce usage per category. |
21:16 |
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cait |
on by default i think |
21:16 |
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cait |
allowing login |
21:16 |
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wizzyrea |
well whatever the default is now (least surprise and all) |
21:16 |
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cait |
i tend to do that yes |
21:16 |
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cait |
i think it would be least confusing |
21:16 |
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cait |
and of course copy the current value to existing patron categories |
21:17 |
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wizzyrea |
right |
21:17 |
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cait |
it seems most logical to me i think |
21:17 |
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wizzyrea |
besides, I can think of at least one person who would be for eliminating sysprefs ;) |
21:17 |
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cait |
but i better get this right :) |
21:17 |
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cait |
heh |
21:17 |
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cait |
maybe ha can test or qa then ;) |
21:22 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: thx for giving your opinion |
21:23 |
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wizzyrea |
ah yep, at least this time it's not a controversial one ^.^ |
21:25 |
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cait |
those are very welcome too :) |
21:31 |
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rangi |
back |
21:36 |
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wizzyrea |
haha cait you said the same thing I said |
21:36 |
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cait |
hm? |
21:37 |
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wizzyrea |
on the mailing list about the overdue notices |
21:37 |
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cait |
ah right |
21:37 |
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cait |
i sitl think it's the cause |
21:37 |
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wizzyrea |
me too |
21:37 |
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wizzyrea |
I have actually been caught by that exact thing |
21:37 |
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cait |
i really filed that bug :) |
22:05 |
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mtompset |
Well, this is the day that my schedule is totally out of whack. Have a great 24 hour period (or more), #koha. |
22:05 |
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* mtompset |
waves bye to wizzyrea and cait. :) |
22:06 |
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wizzyrea |
later |
22:13 |
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wizzyrea |
yay someone wants to know about the livecd. *sighs* |
22:13 |
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rangi |
i think that guy is in wellington |
22:13 |
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rangi |
learning |
22:13 |
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wahanui |
i think learning is a life long process and it never stops. I just wish it slowed down sometimes. :) |
22:13 |
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rangi |
we should reply and say, pop in to catalyst with your laptop |
22:13 |
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rangi |
and we can show you a less stupid way to install |
22:14 |
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wizzyrea |
:D we can do that? |
22:14 |
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rangi |
sure we can, just do it on a lunch break |
22:14 |
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wizzyrea |
neat! |
22:14 |
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rangi |
lemme just check if it is the person im thinking of |
22:15 |
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rangi |
My name is Richard. Im an IT student from the island of Tonga currently |
22:15 |
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rangi |
studying in NZ, |
22:15 |
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rangi |
yep it is |
22:15 |
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wizzyrea |
cooool |
22:15 |
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rangi |
in nz at least |
22:16 |
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ibeardslee |
probably even scope for 'community goodwill support' in timesheeting? |
22:16 |
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rangi |
so maybe say, if you are in wellington, pop in at lunch time blah blah |
22:16 |
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ibeardslee |
.. oh, this isn't catalyst irc .. |
22:16 |
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rangi |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
hah |
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rangi |
re Dyrcona |
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