| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
Nice one, mtompset :) |
| 00:02 |
|
mtompset |
It was the "explain the tweak hosts file" guy. I explained a little, and suggested he talk with his IT guy. Now he worked through that step with help from his system administrator. :) |
| 00:02 |
|
mtompset |
(just like the instructions said to do, if you get stuck) |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
Cool beans. I tweaked the host file at home as it was just easier. I assume that they're just experimenting as well? |
| 00:17 |
|
mtompset |
not sure. |
| 00:20 |
|
mtompset |
Looks like we got petition spam. :( |
| 00:20 |
|
dcook |
Petition spam? |
| 00:20 |
|
dcook |
That sounds familiar |
| 00:20 |
|
mtompset |
Check your email. You'll see why I called it that. |
| 00:22 |
|
dcook |
I only get the digests so it might not have arrived yet |
| 00:22 |
|
* dcook |
takes a look |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
I almost would've done better not reading my emails... |
| 00:52 |
|
mtompset |
Hence the comment by oleonard about not warning rangi to not check his emails earlier. |
| 00:53 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, I wasn't here for that :p |
| 00:53 |
|
dcook |
I really should set up a bouncer one of these days... |
| 00:53 |
|
cjh |
lastlog -clar |
| 00:53 |
|
cjh |
ww |
| 01:16 |
|
rangi |
that looks like one of those dumb ones that sends mail to everyone in your address book |
| 01:16 |
|
rangi |
without telling you |
| 01:16 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, I never did see the petition one in the end |
| 01:17 |
|
dcook |
I'm sure I'm not missing anything :p |
| 01:17 |
|
rangi |
not unless you want to scrap pork |
| 01:17 |
|
dcook |
O_o |
| 01:26 |
|
mtompset |
rangi: It isn't about scrapping pork. It's about government kick-backs. |
| 01:27 |
|
mtompset |
My Filipino family and friends are talking about this senator involved in this mess. |
| 01:33 |
|
mtj |
hi all, does anyone have any experience about handling duplicated auth records, when importing…? |
| 01:35 |
|
mtj |
i spotted a list thread from 2011 where the solution seemed to be to handle this problem outside of koha |
| 01:35 |
|
mtj |
-> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]nuary/027342.html |
| 01:36 |
|
jcamins |
mtj: yeah, deal with it outside of Koha. |
| 01:36 |
|
mtj |
but, i did also note that ./bulkmarcimport has a --match='245a/title' arg |
| 01:37 |
|
jcamins |
It won't work. |
| 01:37 |
|
jcamins |
Really. |
| 01:37 |
|
mtompset |
-- unless you provide a patch? ;) |
| 01:37 |
|
mtj |
heya jcamins, thanks for the info |
| 01:37 |
|
jcamins |
Right. |
| 01:39 |
|
mtj |
i did spot this too -> http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ching_improvement |
| 01:39 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, but that's not going to help. |
| 01:39 |
|
mtj |
was very handy :) |
| 01:39 |
|
jcamins |
That's for matching bibs against authorities. |
| 01:40 |
|
jcamins |
What might help would be bug 7419. |
| 01:40 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7419 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add authority deduplication script |
| 01:41 |
|
mtompset |
pimp that bug, baby. ;) |
| 01:41 |
|
mtj |
woah, looks impressive |
| 01:41 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, tcohen started testing it and ran into some problems. |
| 01:41 |
|
jcamins |
Which need to be addressed. |
| 01:51 |
|
mtj |
looks like tcohen's problems didn't get added to the bug |
| 01:51 |
|
jcamins |
No, because he didn't write them up. |
| 01:57 |
|
mtj |
ah, ok |
| 01:57 |
|
mtj |
(i left a little note on the bug asking Tomas for that info) |
| 01:58 |
|
jcamins |
I'll fix it when I can, but it's not going to be in time for any migrations you're currently working on. |
| 01:59 |
|
mtj |
yeah… i was thinking i could help |
| 02:00 |
|
jcamins |
Ah. I would certainly be happy to see that. |
| 02:02 |
|
mtj |
jcamins, the known problems scary show-stoppers? |
| 02:02 |
|
mtj |
s/the/are the/ |
| 02:03 |
|
mtompset |
Isn't messing up authorities a scary show stopper? ;) |
| 02:03 |
|
mtompset |
(thankfully, my opinion doesn't matter on this) |
| 02:04 |
|
mtj |
yeah, a good point :) |
| 02:04 |
|
jcamins |
mtj: matchchecks don't work with authorities. |
| 02:04 |
|
jcamins |
And there are some warnings. |
| 02:09 |
|
mtj |
its a very impressive patch |
| 02:11 |
|
jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 02:11 |
|
mtj |
i think i might give it a go, and see how far i get... |
| 02:15 |
|
mtj |
perhaps make a ./t/test.pl to show how its failing |
| 02:15 |
|
mtj |
(i think the feature is missing that, so far) |
| 02:16 |
|
jcamins |
No, we don't usually do unit tests for Perl scripts. It'd be great if we did, but kind of challenging. |
| 02:22 |
|
mtj |
this one feels like a worthy exception |
| 02:23 |
|
jcamins |
If you are able to write a unit test, please do. |
| 02:24 |
|
mtj |
yep, i'll, at least, have a go at it :) |
| 02:25 |
|
* mtj |
adds that to his list of 'things i promised to do for Koha' |
| 02:52 |
|
mtompset |
Hmmm... I just realized there may be a reason I install a tarball koha on a debian-based OS for production -- I want to stick with 3.8.x, even though 3.12.x is current. |
| 02:52 |
|
mtompset |
We aren't always lucky to have someone maintaining the version prior to oldstable, however. |
| 02:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
if you're gonna do that you should just build your own packages |
| 02:55 |
|
mtompset |
wizzyrea: I would agree with that. |
| 02:56 |
|
mtompset |
But some people haven't taken the plunge to build their own packages, but they are familiar with the tarball install. |
| 02:57 |
|
jcamins |
Sure, and that's why it's possible. That doesn't mean we need to recommend it. |
| 02:57 |
|
mtompset |
True enough. |
| 02:58 |
|
mtompset |
I'm just trying to wrap my head around "souce based" installs... merging the idea of tarball install and git install into the same set of instructions. |
| 02:58 |
|
mtompset |
I guess we are no longer worried about the SAXParser. |
| 02:58 |
|
mtompset |
Locale |
| 02:58 |
|
rangi |
nope thats a non issue |
| 02:58 |
|
jcamins |
Locale has not been an issue in a very long time. |
| 02:59 |
|
mtompset |
Good... those sections are getting ripped out. :) |
| 02:59 |
|
jcamins |
SAX parser might need to be addressed still. |
| 02:59 |
|
rangi |
fwiw |
| 02:59 |
|
mtompset |
Really?! |
| 02:59 |
|
rangi |
i havent done the sax parser thing in 3 years |
| 02:59 |
|
wahanui |
it has been said that really is off now |
| 02:59 |
|
rangi |
havent had a problem yet |
| 02:59 |
|
mtompset |
It's not mentioned on the package installations at all. |
| 02:59 |
|
rangi |
also |
| 02:59 |
|
rangi |
i think from now one |
| 03:00 |
|
jcamins |
rangi: I switched to packages as soon as they were available, so I haven't had to think about SAX parsers. |
| 03:00 |
|
rangi |
people should not interact abuot the wrong wiki, except to post a link to the official wiki |
| 03:00 |
|
mtompset |
okay, sax and locale are going. |
| 03:00 |
|
rangi |
the point has been made, it just makes us look surly |
| 03:01 |
|
rangi |
so if hilton insists on posting links to his wiki installation instructions, we just post one to the instructions that actually work |
| 03:01 |
|
rangi |
and leave it at that |
| 03:03 |
|
dcook |
rangi: Yeah, I've said my two bits on LinkedIn, and now I'm ready to just post links to koha-community |
| 03:03 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 03:04 |
|
dcook |
Like you say, we don't want to come off as ogres. |
| 03:04 |
|
dcook |
In fact, I want to encourage people to talk to us without fear of being shouted down. |
| 03:04 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 03:05 |
|
rangi |
and its fairly obvious both the wiki and livedvd person arent listening, so no point scaring others |
| 03:07 |
|
dcook |
That's true. I feel bad for the people who use the bad instructions, but hopefully they'll see the links to the good ones and use those instead. That's about the best we can do. |
| 03:07 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 03:21 |
|
rangi |
right that blogpost is my last word on the subject :) |
| 03:21 |
|
mtompset |
link? |
| 03:22 |
|
rangi |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]-what-motivation/ |
| 03:23 |
|
dcook |
Quite an appropriate last word, I think |
| 03:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
also can I just say, the librarian who called out the chron job person I really want to hug. |
| 03:28 |
|
cjh |
:o |
| 03:29 |
|
* cjh |
continues listening to daft punk |
| 03:29 |
|
cjh |
ty wizzyrea |
| 03:29 |
|
dcook |
cjh++ |
| 03:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
:D |
| 03:29 |
|
* dcook |
has been on a daft punk kick for the past week or so...can't help but koha to them |
| 03:30 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: Not sure that I saw that. Hmm. |
| 03:30 |
|
jcamins |
wizzyrea: yeah, I thought that was a great message. |
| 03:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
there are some technicalities there that aren't entirely correct |
| 03:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
but the spirit is right |
| 03:31 |
|
jcamins |
Yep. |
| 03:36 |
|
rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]&feature=youtu.be |
| 03:36 |
|
rangi |
i love this tv add |
| 03:37 |
|
rangi |
"I say, you too slow, you have crispy duck, sit down!" |
| 03:38 |
|
rangi |
"my soap is not funny" |
| 03:42 |
|
cjh |
wizzyrea++ |
| 03:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe that ad made me laugh |
| 03:54 |
|
mtompset |
KellySundin++ # WizzyRea is right, she did a good job of replying. |
| 03:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
What does a grown man need with 12 frosty pigs? |
| 03:56 |
|
mtompset |
@quote random |
| 03:56 |
|
huginn` |
mtompset: Quote #200: "chris_n: usually the problem is either too much time and not enough cookies or not enough time and too many cookies" (added by wizzyrea at 03:24 PM, April 12, 2012) |
| 03:56 |
|
wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
| 03:56 |
|
cjh |
hahahha |
| 03:57 |
|
mtompset |
Almost relevant! |
| 03:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 03:57 |
|
huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #69: "<schuster> Now if I could only figure out how to control those daemons... or at least the ones in my head..." (added by jwagner at 02:02 PM, March 17, 2010) |
| 04:02 |
|
mtompset |
Bah, it's more like daemons under RedHat so that Koha is better supported there. :P |
| 04:16 |
|
dcook |
Hmmm, I was wondering why the last few minutes sounded different |
| 04:16 |
|
dcook |
Gorillaz. Not Daft Punk. |
| 04:17 |
|
dcook |
The day after you write up your POD and then decide to change how your methods work... |
| 04:17 |
|
dcook |
*sigh* |
| 04:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plvpV9p0ywg < the only gorillaz song I know |
| 04:17 |
|
* wizzyrea |
is so old |
| 04:19 |
|
dcook |
I'm sure I must've heard this song before... |
| 04:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
hahahahahaha |
| 04:19 |
|
dcook |
I heard the first album years ago but I have never really followed them |
| 04:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izrL7pBdkaw < is my favorite version |
| 04:20 |
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| 04:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
well actually it's the only version I really like. |
| 04:31 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 04:37 |
|
mtompset |
That's a good cover, wizzyrea. |
| 04:43 |
|
mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
| 04:43 |
|
dcook |
ta mtompset |
| 04:43 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: She is catchy! |
| 04:43 |
|
* mtompset |
waves bye to dcook wizzyrea cjh etc, :) |
| 04:45 |
|
dcook |
ie-- |
| 04:55 |
|
dcook |
Nevermind...it was someone who didn't know what they were doing with CSS... |
| 05:11 |
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| 05:41 |
|
dcook |
hey ya cait :) |
| 05:42 |
|
* cait |
waves |
| 06:02 |
|
* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:03 |
|
dcook |
hei magnuse :) |
| 06:08 |
|
magnuse |
hiya dcook |
| 06:36 |
|
* magnuse |
saw http://steampunker.de/en/galle[…]tation-070010001/ and thought maybe there should be a steampunk skin for koha... |
| 06:40 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 06:42 |
|
cait |
bbiab |
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| 06:42 |
|
dcook |
I like this idea, magnuse :) |
| 06:43 |
|
dcook |
I wonder how skins are done... |
| 06:43 |
|
magnuse |
me too ;-) |
| 06:43 |
|
mtj |
that hits my funny-bone |
| 06:43 |
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| 06:44 |
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dcook |
Maybe a template that exposed the most important CSS properties? |
| 06:44 |
|
reiveune |
hello |
| 06:44 |
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wahanui |
salut, reiveune |
| 06:44 |
|
dcook |
Most important just being things like colours and backgrounds |
| 06:44 |
|
dcook |
hey ya reiveune :) |
| 06:44 |
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reiveune |
\o/ |
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| 06:56 |
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gaetan_B |
hell |
| 06:56 |
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gaetan_B |
o |
| 06:56 |
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gaetan_B |
:) |
| 06:56 |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune sophie_m gaetan_B |
| 06:56 |
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magnuse |
gaetan_B: that is some way to great the world ;-) |
| 06:56 |
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reiveune |
salut magnuse :) |
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sophie_m |
hello magnuse |
| 06:57 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 06:57 |
|
huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:57 |
|
magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
| 06:57 |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 19.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:57 |
|
magnuse |
just 5 degress difference :-) |
| 06:58 |
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| 06:58 |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
| 06:59 |
|
alex_a |
bonjour |
| 06:59 |
|
magnuse |
moin drojf |
| 06:59 |
|
mtj |
heya mirko, alex_a |
| 06:59 |
|
magnuse |
hiya alex_a and mtj |
| 07:00 |
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mtj |
magnus, a *physical* steampunk OPAC would be great |
| 07:00 |
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magnuse |
sure! |
| 07:02 |
|
magnuse |
you can buy these drab cabinets for self checkout stations, right? what if there was a steampunk version of that, bot for self check and for patron computers... |
| 07:02 |
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mtj |
i bet there are still many libraries that have opacs that look 'steampunk', without the irony :p |
| 07:02 |
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magnuse |
a "physical opac" - is that a card catalogue? |
| 07:02 |
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magnuse |
lol |
| 07:03 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 07:03 |
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mtj |
yep, thats what i was thinking too :o) |
| 07:04 |
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mtj |
submit your queries via a punchcard reader |
| 07:06 |
|
mtj |
...results are output via ticker-tape |
| 07:07 |
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magnuse |
like http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23812365 |
| 07:10 |
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| 07:12 |
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mtj |
ha, thats great |
| 07:22 |
|
dcook |
... |
| 07:22 |
|
dcook |
I just realized that I forgot to listen to the radio today |
| 07:22 |
|
dcook |
The host was playing a song for me :( |
| 07:23 |
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magnuse |
oh noes! |
| 07:23 |
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| 07:24 |
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magnuse |
pork? is that a new form of spam? |
| 07:24 |
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magnuse |
KIA ORA KF! |
| 07:24 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 07:24 |
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dcook |
I really need to see this message.. |
| 07:24 |
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dcook |
o/ kf |
| 07:24 |
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dcook |
this one looks like stretching.../o |
| 07:24 |
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dcook |
Or swimming.. |
| 07:24 |
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kf |
hi magnuse |
| 07:57 |
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kf |
koha++ |
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mtj |
!twadd #kohails |
| 08:16 |
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mtj |
!twadd kohails |
| 08:16 |
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mtj |
hmm, i'm sure the tweetbot has been a little quiet lately… :/ |
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mtj |
(i thought i'd give it a restart, and see...) |
| 08:19 |
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kf |
now we need some kohails news |
| 08:27 |
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magnuse |
koha-shell++ for the convenience |
| 08:31 |
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dac |
@later tell jcamins Have I ever mentioned ICA-AtoM to you? You might find it interesting: https://www.ica-atom.org/ |
| 08:31 |
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huginn` |
dac: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:40 |
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dac |
Favourite quote from a former classmate today |
| 08:40 |
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dac |
"... but we'll probably need to just all get together in one room with Koha and a keg in order to make a decision and get started." |
| 08:40 |
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dac |
Love it |
| 08:46 |
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kf |
hm, does someone know how to deal with $ in fields in marc21? |
| 08:47 |
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dac |
Hmm |
| 08:47 |
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dac |
I don't think I've had that come up, but I could see how it would... |
| 08:48 |
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kf |
some library here using it in barcodes. |
| 08:48 |
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dac |
Ew.. |
| 08:49 |
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dac |
I'm not really sure :( |
| 08:49 |
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drojf |
make them stop? :P |
| 08:50 |
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dac |
What about $ signs in titles? |
| 08:50 |
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dac |
I could see that coming up in a book title |
| 08:51 |
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dac |
one dvd on amazon.com |
| 08:51 |
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dac |
Hmm |
| 08:51 |
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dac |
Wait a minute.. |
| 08:52 |
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dac |
Does it actually cause a problem? |
| 08:53 |
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dac |
It should be irrelevant in MARCXML |
| 08:53 |
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dac |
Maybe in raw MARC.. |
| 08:53 |
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dac |
If it causes problems in raw MARC, gmcharlt might have some ideas |
| 08:54 |
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kf |
itdid cause a problem for the barcoes - missing part of it |
| 08:54 |
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drojf |
http://www.gluster.org/2013/08[…]forge-has-fallen/ |
| 08:54 |
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kf |
still trying to figure out in which step it got confused |
| 08:54 |
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drojf |
isn't the livedvd on sourcefourge? that will add extra fun |
| 08:55 |
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dac |
Mmm, I've had some weirdness happen through multiple manipulations of MARC data from one format to another.. |
| 08:56 |
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kf |
dac: yeah.... something like that |
| 08:57 |
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dac |
Whoa, I am dac... |
| 08:57 |
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* dac |
wonders when that happened.. |
| 08:58 |
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dcook |
There we go |
| 08:59 |
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drojf |
and i wondered who that dac person is that i have never seen before but that feels very at home here ;) |
| 09:00 |
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* kf |
had a feeling... |
| 09:00 |
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kf |
dcook: but should you be here? :) |
| 09:00 |
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drojf |
"(09:58:18) dac [~dcook 0001b431.user.oftc.net] hat den Raum betreten." kind of gives it away |
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drojf |
yeah, isn't that a strange time for you? |
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* magnuse |
thinks dcook should be here for another 5 hours or so |
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dcook |
magnuse: :P |
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dcook |
kf: I probably shouldn't be here |
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dcook |
I was catching up on some emails though |
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dcook |
Which always take more time than they should |
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dcook |
Personal ones though! So...that's a thing |
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magnuse |
mysqlf-- for not documenting things i figure out |
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dcook |
drojf: I was just thinking that my nonchalance must've carried through in my speech.. |
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dcook |
Intriguing! |
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magnuse |
mysqlf?!? whut? i must be going mad |
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magnuse |
myself-- for not documenting things i figure out |
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magnuse |
@karma mysqlf |
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huginn` |
magnuse: Karma for "mysqlf" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
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drojf |
mysqlf. lol |
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dcook |
I figured the f was a typo...lol |
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magnuse |
nope, q was the typo :-) |
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dcook |
mysqlf...the moment when you've been working on databases too long |
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dcook |
Except that it's only morning there :p |
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dcook |
Right.. |
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drojf |
rangi++ |
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dcook |
My wife was talking with a friend in Sweden last night, and the timezones made sense due to all the conversations with you, magnuse ;) |
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magnuse |
yeah rangi++ |
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dcook |
Mmm, very true |
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dcook |
rangi++ |
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magnuse |
dcook: hehe |
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dcook |
What the hell...peer pressure is fun |
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dcook |
I think I might've forgotten to do it earlier.. |
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kf |
rangi++ |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 18.8°C (11:13 AM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
funny how that reads exactly like yesterday. and yesterday was a nice summer day, toda it's autumn |
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drojf |
*today |
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kf |
same here |
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kf |
pretty cool |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 17.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
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mtj |
!twadd kohails |
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drojf |
yesterday i felt like "yay, all the energy, let's do things". today i'd like to work from my bed. for five minutes, and then sleep ;) |
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magnuse |
ooh, good plan! |
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* drojf |
thinks about adding all signoffs he did to his CV |
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dcook |
lol |
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drojf |
i should better go and study before the day is over again. see you later, #koha |
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dcook |
ta drojf |
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dcook |
Hmm, I should get moving too |
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dcook |
Wifey going to be on the TV in an hour... |
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dcook |
Not that I own a TV, but the channel has a free online stream ^_^ |
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kf |
famous wife? :) |
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dcook |
Increasingly famous, I suppose |
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dcook |
All right. i should get moving. See you fine folks tomorrow :) |
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kf |
@seen slef |
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huginn` |
kf: slef was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, 33 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <slef> kf speed? |
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quoc_uy |
Hi everyone, long time no see |
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* quoc_uy |
slaps jcamins around a bit with a large fishbot |
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kf |
hi quoc_uy - why the fish? |
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kf |
and he is probably asleep so that might be not so polite :) |
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quoc_uy |
haha, just miss click |
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quoc_uy |
:) |
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kf |
lunch time here - bbiab |
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quoc_uy |
okie |
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quoc_uy |
i missed 2 general meeting because of time |
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kf |
yeah, timezones make it difficult sometimes |
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kf |
we shift each meeting by 8 hours |
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kf |
so everyone gets a chance to attend at a good time |
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kf |
now i am gone :) |
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quoc_uy |
yes, i see that. |
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quoc_uy |
okie ,bb |
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magnuse |
do we have an official style guide for new sysprefs? NewSyspref or New_Syspref or new_syspref... |
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kf |
i think i prefer camelcase.... but we probably have all variations |
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kf |
i think not somany underscores |
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magnuse |
yeah, we do have all variations |
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mtj |
CamelCase seems to be the most common variant, imho |
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magnuse |
i'll go with that |
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samueld |
hi everybody :-) |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya oleonard et al |
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kf |
hi oleonard :) |
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tcohen |
morning |
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kf |
good morning tcohen |
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slef |
@later tell mtompset you called? |
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huginn` |
slef: The operation succeeded. |
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druthb |
o/ |
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magnuse |
druthb! |
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wahanui |
Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
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magnuse |
tcohen! |
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wahanui |
tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts |
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magnuse |
tcohen++ |
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tcohen |
magnuse! |
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wahanui |
magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
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druthb |
magnuse! |
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wahanui |
i think magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
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magnuse |
ooh, pizza |
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druthb |
:) |
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* Oak |
waves |
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Oak |
@wunder islamabad |
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huginn` |
Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 30.0°C (8:00 PM PKT on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
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Oak |
@wunder konstanz |
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huginn` |
Oak: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 17.0°C (5:09 PM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 28.9°C (10:21 AM CDT on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
Hi, Oak! |
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Oak |
hello druthb :) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn` |
tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 18.0°C (1:00 PM ART on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
bye all |
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gaetan_B |
bye !: |
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* cait |
waves |
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rambutan |
waves |
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druthb |
o/ |
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tcohen |
\o cait |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
i see you worked to remove some annoying warnings on opac |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
that was a long time ago |
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cait |
it probably needs to be revisited |
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tcohen |
yes |
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cait |
feel free to adopt if you feel like it :) |
| 16:59 |
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tcohen |
bug 7937 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7937 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Failed QA , Silence warns in OPAC error log (koha-opac-error_log) |
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cait |
it was my first try really |
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cait |
i remember i had a hard time figuring things out |
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tcohen |
i think gmcharlt should take a look and tell how to proceed |
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tcohen |
i was passed qa but paul made some comments and went failed qa |
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cait |
hm i can't look right now - maybe later |
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tcohen |
np |
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cait |
i have to take care of dinner first- just got home :) |
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tcohen |
:) |
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* oleonard |
crosses his fingers, again, for Bug 2720 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2720 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Overdues which debar automatically should undebar automatically when returned |
| 17:16 |
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magnuse |
oleonard: golden oldies? |
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oleonard |
We chipped in some money for that development so I'm hoping it will pass this time. |
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magnuse |
ooh, fingers crossed then |
| 17:17 |
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magnuse |
wonders what the oldest, open bug is |
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oleonard |
Bug 444? |
| 17:19 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=444 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Manual Credits does not support authorised values (Manual invoices do) |
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magnuse |
yeah, looks like it :-) |
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magnuse |
reported a little more than 10 years ago, poor thing... |
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magnuse |
well, soon it will be teenager ;-) |
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cait |
lol |
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magnuse |
druthb! drojf! |
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druthb |
magnuse! |
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wahanui |
it has been said that magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
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cait |
drojf! druthb! magnuse! |
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druthb |
cait! |
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druthb |
drojf! |
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magnuse |
i can haz this for KOHA? http://code.divshot.com/geo-bootstrap/ kthxbai |
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drojf |
magnuse! cait! druthb! |
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drojf |
i see our secret handshake is spreading ;) |
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drojf |
oh very nice magnuse |
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drojf |
i want "danger" buttons all over the livedvd :P |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian! |
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eythian |
god kveld magnuse! |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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magnuse |
eythian: got a plan for the 3.12.4 packages? |
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eythian |
a note for anyone concerned, there might be a delay before the packages are released. Due to a migraine (not mine), I don't have access to my laptop. |
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eythian |
heh, was just writing that |
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eythian |
I might get back to it tomorrow and find time for them, but it might also not be until I'm back in NZ next week. |
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eythian |
(so soon!?!) |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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magnuse |
no worries, just good to know the lay of the land |
| 17:55 |
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eythian |
yeah, essentially "it depends", but probably Tuesday at the latest. |
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magnuse |
cool |
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tcohen |
@seen gmcharlt |
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huginn` |
tcohen: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 day, 3 hours, 35 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> mu |
| 18:26 |
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magnuse |
gah, writing contracts is no fun! |
| 18:26 |
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tcohen |
is it ok to backport some TT plugins from a patch for master into 3.12? |
| 18:27 |
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tcohen |
i mean, cherry-pick, then remove everything but those plugins, keeping authorship |
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tcohen |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
ask him about serials and/or acquisitions. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: why would you want to? |
| 18:28 |
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tcohen |
some fixes that are getting pushed depend on those plugins |
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tcohen |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]42b2c1b272439b2b6 |
| 18:29 |
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tcohen |
bug 10609 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use branch name rather than branch code in serials-collection.pl |
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jcamins |
Ehhh... |
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jcamins |
I guess. |
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tcohen |
am i killing a mosquito with a bazooka? |
| 18:31 |
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jcamins |
I think you may be. |
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tcohen |
thx |
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tcohen |
i'll come back to that tomorrow jcamins, will ask oleonard to make a patch for 3.12 (or write one myself) |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #86 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Have you used grunt.js before? |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I have not, though it looks very nice. |
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oleonard |
Today I've been working on integrating it with the new Bootstrap theme |
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oleonard |
So far I have it compiling LESS into CSS, concatenating some JS, and minifying some JS |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins |
Nice! |
| 19:01 |
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magnuse |
oleonard++ |
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oleonard |
I'm hearing conflicting advice about whether I should commit the node module dependencies along with everything else |
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jcamins |
oleonard: you should. |
| 19:01 |
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jcamins |
Koha qualifies as an "application." |
| 19:03 |
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oleonard |
So if I've got this working correctly and others agree it's a good idea that will mean a new procedure for contributors who want to add or modify CSS and JS |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
how complicated is it? |
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cait |
and how hard will it be to fix merge conflicts? |
| 19:04 |
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cait |
just wondering :) |
| 19:04 |
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jcamins |
Merge conflicts will be no harder than currently, because the RM will commit the generated files, and it'll involve running `grunt` |
| 19:04 |
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jcamins |
Maybe `grunt build` |
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jcamins |
Or something like that. |
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oleonard |
If the RM is committing the generated files doesn't that mean the developer must manually exclude them from commits? |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I don't see a lot of choices. |
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jcamins |
With minified JS, every single CSS change will involve an unresolvable conflict. |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
yeah that was my thought |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
Minified *CSS* obviously. |
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cait |
so you need to be able to do it for testing, but commit only the 'base' files? |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
I'd favor just not having developers use the minified CSS. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Do in-browser less processing? |
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cait |
jcamins: ah |
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cait |
generate only for releases? |
| 19:08 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: that'd be my preference. Make it a toggle in koha-conf.xml or the like. |
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jcamins |
The RM could even generate it after every patch. |
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oleonard |
gmcharlt around to give an opinion? |
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druthb |
He's out having fun in San Antonio, I imagine. |
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rambutan |
miss the SAT riverwalk |
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magnuse |
have fun, #koha! |
| 19:20 |
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cait |
bye magnuse :) |
| 19:20 |
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cait |
hm signed off down to 81... good! |
| 19:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #86: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/86/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10543: fix false warnings from checks of mandatory item fields |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10543 - Unify item mandatory subfields check |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10543 - add mandatory subfield check to addorderiso2709.pl |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10543 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , false mandatory warning in additem |
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eythian |
cait: http://ubuntuone.com/2PSXZXEit7NTpzFDo6CbsB |
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* cait |
clicks |
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cait |
uhoh |
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cait |
eythian: now you scared kyle away |
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eythian |
Heh oops |
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cait |
eythian: it was too warm that day. |
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cait |
:) |
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eythian |
It was rather. |
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cait |
when are you flying back? |
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eythian |
There's also one of me, but I don't have to share that. |
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eythian |
Friday |
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cait |
and if I want to see it? :) |
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cait |
oh wow soon |
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eythian |
Yeah, it is quite soon. |
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cait |
yeah, time flies - this year seems especially crazy |
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cait |
ok, bbiab |
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cait |
eythian: i have to admit your konstanz photos are not as impressive as the italian ones |
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cait |
eythian: but maybe i am just the worst guide ever? :) |
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eythian |
Heh I wasn't in Konstanz to be taking photos :) |
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cait |
:) |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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* cait |
waves at wizzyrea |
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cait |
hi tcohen |
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cait |
:) |
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tcohen |
hi :) |
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tcohen |
so i get home, and find out i have homework? |
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cait |
hm yes? |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
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rambutan |
morning dcook |
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rambutan |
<actually evening> |
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tcohen |
hi dcook rambutan |
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dcook |
Gotta love having an "actual meter reading" just when the energy rates go up... |
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dcook |
Mmm energy bill over double the last one... |
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wizzyrea |
ew |
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dcook |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
what now? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... now is good time with holidays coming up |
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dcook |
listserv stuff :P |
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rangi |
ahh |
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rambutan |
hi tcohen |
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rambutan |
foraging time |
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mtompset |
Greetings, dcook tcohen rangi wizzyrea. :) |
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dcook |
hey ya mtompset |
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* mtompset |
feels more awake after his liter of cola. |
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dcook |
liter? |
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mtompset |
litre. |
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dcook |
That's better :p |
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mtompset |
Sorry, a typographical error. :P |
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dcook |
I was starting to think that we had an intruder masquerading as mtompset |
