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rambutan |
hi oak |
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Oak |
hello rambutan :) |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
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gaetan_B |
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wahanui |
hey, gaetan_B |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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matts |
hello ! |
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kf |
morning drojf and matts :) |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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kf |
drojf: fixing 3.10 po files right now |
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* kf |
waves back at wizzyrea :) |
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drojf |
hi matts, kf, wizzyrea |
| 07:59 |
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drojf |
kf: what happened? someone uploaded wrong files? |
| 07:59 |
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kf |
drojf: yep |
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kf |
i am not sure which option he selected - lots of suggestions |
| 08:00 |
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kf |
but i thought as we haven't done much since last 3.10.x we jump back there |
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drojf |
why can somebody just go and upload files there? |
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kf |
i have no idea actually :( |
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kf |
the permission system seems borked somehow |
| 08:00 |
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kf |
i will write bernardo later |
| 08:01 |
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kf |
it should be prevented by permissions, but they don't show right for me in pootle right now |
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kf |
I know that the file with permissions has been giving trouble before i |
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drojf |
:( |
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kf |
not sure... I will ask bgkriegel to take a look |
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drojf |
an automatic backup when a file is re-uploaded would be nice too |
| 08:02 |
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kf |
probably too early to speculate |
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drojf |
probably? you are speculating about the speculation? |
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kf |
hehe |
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kf |
just saying i don#t really know and am a bit puzzled too :) |
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kf |
and it's still early morning! |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
uploaded new files |
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kf |
but the suggestions are still there |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Alter Schlachthof, Berlin, Germany is 27.1°C (10:45 AM CEST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
not bad really |
| 08:49 |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 24.8°C (10:45 AM CEST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
i win :( |
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mtj |
hmm, just got back from a weekend in the south island |
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kf |
nice :) |
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kf |
well, hope it was |
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mtj |
afaict, nothing looks too broken at my place |
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mtj |
yeah, was great :) |
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mtj |
but, very nice to be home too |
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wizzyrea |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
hi |
| 09:29 |
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wizzyrea |
http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/re[…]n/wellington/felt exciting day. though we didnt feel these so strongly tho |
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wizzyrea |
tomorrow may be an adventure. |
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eythian |
looks bumpy |
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wizzyrea |
it's wobbly |
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wizzyrea |
the big one was bumpy, these little ones are wobbly |
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eythian |
ah right |
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kf |
wizzyrea: getting usedto it yet? :) |
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kf |
wizzyrea: very glad we don't have earthquakes here |
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eythian |
your buildings would all collapse |
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eythian |
they terrify me |
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kf |
probably. |
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eythian |
(the buildings, that is) |
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kf |
still? |
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kf |
not sure how bad it would be, guess more modern buildings probably better than older ones |
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eythian |
whenever I have cause to think about the fact I'm surrounded by tall, brittle stone buildings held together by little more than the assumption acceleration is always downwards, yes :) |
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eythian |
kf: you do have a lot of old buildings :) |
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kf |
yes... yes we do |
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drojf |
kf: there was an earthquake at bodensee i think |
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drojf |
st. gallen, 3.6 |
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eythian |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]-smashed-in-quake <-- a 3.6 wouldn't do this |
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drojf |
nah, 3.6 only smashes cheap wine or beer |
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eythian |
snobby earthquakes |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: did you get a chance to make sure that all my stuff hadn't fallen off the floor? |
| 10:01 |
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kf |
fallen off the floor? |
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eythian |
well it's where most of it was, who knows what's happened since then? |
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kf |
will the old buildings keep you from visitingß |
| 10:03 |
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kf |
? |
| 10:03 |
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eythian |
England is just as bad really |
| 10:10 |
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eythian |
@wunder bn1 1nb |
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huginn` |
eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 26.1°C (11:00 AM BST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:11 |
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kf |
hm ok |
| 10:11 |
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kf |
someone a hint for me? I had this nice git bash thing on my old vm where it shows you the branch you are on, if it's clean or not etc. |
| 10:12 |
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kf |
I'd like to have it back, but my googling skills fail me |
| 10:13 |
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eythian |
https://www.google.co.uk/searc[…]T0QXdoICIDg&gbv=2 |
| 10:13 |
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kf |
yeah i find lots... but not the one i had. very annoying |
| 10:13 |
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kf |
most show just the branch |
| 10:13 |
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kf |
but the nice thing was tht it also showed when you had uncommitted changes etc. |
| 10:14 |
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eythian |
http://mediadoneright.com/cont[…]t-ps1-bash-prompt <-- this one does |
| 10:15 |
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kf |
thx :) i will keep looking |
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bibliwho |
google sth like this? git bash clean "branch state" |
| 10:19 |
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eythian |
the one I pointed to does that too. |
| 10:19 |
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kf |
eythian: still hoping to find the one i used before kind of |
| 10:19 |
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eythian |
No one can help you there, as we don't know what you had :) |
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kf |
i know :) |
| 10:21 |
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kf |
but thank you for giving me some input :) |
| 10:22 |
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eythian |
you could probably modify the one above to do exactly what you wanted, and learn bash at the same time :) |
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kf |
the problem is probably that i did modify the hting last time... |
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kf |
ok |
| 10:24 |
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kf |
apart fromt he fact the yellow on white is a terrible combination that one seems to be working fine |
| 10:24 |
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eythian |
who has a white terminal anyway? |
| 10:24 |
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eythian |
what kind of weirdo are you? |
| 10:25 |
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kf |
it came by default |
| 10:25 |
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kf |
where can i switch that? |
| 10:25 |
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eythian |
what are you using? |
| 10:25 |
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eythian |
Ubuntu tends to do a dark purple thing by default |
| 10:26 |
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kf |
debian |
| 10:26 |
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eythian |
oh OK |
| 10:26 |
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eythian |
you change it in the options for your terminal I guess |
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kf |
yeah, maybe not today :) |
| 10:31 |
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eythian |
typically it's done by right-click, but I don't know what terminal you're running. |
| 10:31 |
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eythian |
you're producing bad bug reports, kf ;) |
| 10:32 |
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kf |
i do? :( |
| 10:32 |
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kf |
which one? |
| 10:32 |
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wahanui |
which one is probably that? The fixed navbar? |
| 10:32 |
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eythian |
about your prompt and your terminal and stuff |
| 10:32 |
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kf |
? |
| 10:33 |
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eythian |
you're not providing enough information for people to answer your questions. |
| 10:33 |
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kf |
i would give you the answer if I knew it :) |
| 10:33 |
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kf |
i think i will continue playing with this tomorrow |
| 10:34 |
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eythian |
you haven't even mentioned the software you're using, usually it's only the version that people have to ask for :) |
| 10:35 |
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kf |
the software was not important for the git bash prompt thing :) |
| 10:35 |
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kf |
and i figured out the colors :) |
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kf |
eythian++ for being impatient but helpful ;) |
| 10:37 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 10:40 |
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kf |
lunch time |
| 10:40 |
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kf |
bye all :) |
| 10:40 |
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kf |
well bbl :) |
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magnuse |
gah, where is kf when you need her? |
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magnuse |
;-= |
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magnuse |
bah |
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magnuse |
;-) |
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magnuse |
have fun, #koha! see y'all in a week |
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kf |
magnus_away: ? |
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kf |
i was at lunch! |
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vfernandes |
hi guys |
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vfernandes |
there is any bug related with koha 3.10 and javascript not working in other languages translated? |
| 12:05 |
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vfernandes |
check this - http://catalogo.biblioteca.cm-pontedelima.pt/ |
| 12:05 |
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vfernandes |
in English there javascript works fine (alert shown), in Portugues not.... |
| 12:07 |
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vfernandes |
any idea why? |
| 12:07 |
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vfernandes |
could be something bad translated? |
| 12:08 |
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eythian |
have you checked to see if there are javascript errors? |
| 12:09 |
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kf |
vfernandes: It's a translation problem |
| 12:09 |
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kf |
use firebug and you will see it |
| 12:09 |
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kf |
you are using "" in a translated string: |
| 12:09 |
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kf |
("Nota: apenas pode adicionar "tag" a um item com um dado termo uma vez... |
| 12:09 |
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eythian |
var MSG_ADD_TAG_FAILED_NOTE = _("Nota: apenas pode adicionar "tag" a um item com um dado termo uma vez. Aceda a 'As minhas Tags' para ver as "tags" existentes."); |
| 12:09 |
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kf |
eythian: beat you ;) |
| 12:09 |
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eythian |
only just :) |
| 12:09 |
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kf |
heh |
| 12:14 |
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eythian |
rule of thumb is that if JS isn't working on a translation, look for JS errors that have crept in. |
| 12:14 |
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kf |
it's always a good rule :) firebug is really helpful for things like that |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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kf |
hi christophe_c |
| 12:26 |
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christophe_c |
hello kf ;-) |
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hasdf |
in MARC Frameworks: do I really have to delete each tag / do I really need to import the default framework? |
| 12:32 |
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hasdf |
I really just need a framework with 10-20 fields |
| 12:33 |
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rambutan |
/part |
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| 12:34 |
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slef |
hi - any koha list admins here? Or going to be here in 30mins? |
| 12:35 |
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tcohen__ |
morning #koha |
| 12:36 |
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hasdf |
let me rephrase my question: what is the fastest way to create a new MARC framework with just a few fields? |
| 12:36 |
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tcohen |
use the fast cataloguing framework as your basis |
| 12:39 |
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hasdf |
thanks |
| 12:43 |
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kf |
hasdf: and don't delete tags/fields, but hide them |
| 12:43 |
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kf |
hasdf: it's a lot safer |
| 12:44 |
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kf |
hasdf: also you can use the export to libre office and edit them in a spreadsheet |
| 12:44 |
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tcohen |
that's interesting kf, i'll test it too :-D |
| 12:44 |
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kf |
tcohen: it's a bit tricky, but for some things it works fine |
| 12:44 |
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kf |
in my experience |
| 12:46 |
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tcohen |
good morning btw kf |
| 12:46 |
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kf |
good morning tcohen :) |
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druthb |
kf! |
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* druthb |
wriggles happily |
| 12:48 |
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kf |
druthb! |
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banana |
whoami |
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vfernandes |
sorry my net gone and I didn't saw if anyone asked my question |
| 13:42 |
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vfernandes |
problem with 3.12 and javascript |
| 13:42 |
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vfernandes |
opacuserjs isn't being loaded in portuguese translation |
| 13:42 |
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kf |
logs? |
| 13:42 |
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wahanui |
logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
| 13:43 |
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kf |
vfernandes: we did - you can take a look at the logs from earlier |
| 13:47 |
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vfernandes |
thanks kf and eythian :D |
| 13:51 |
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vfernandes |
by the way what you think about the design? |
| 13:57 |
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kf |
vfernandes: sorry, I didn't take a closer look really |
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kf |
vfernandes: looks nice :) |
| 14:01 |
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vfernandes |
it sure looks :P |
| 14:01 |
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vfernandes |
it's possible to disable fast cataloguing? |
| 14:03 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10592: fix display of favicon <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]076543781925caaca> / Bug 10592: fix MARC21 006/008 cataloging plugins <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d5dc03b84bf9194c> |
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* tcohen |
is getting anxious |
| 14:22 |
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tcohen |
i want that pull request for the translation stuff to release! |
| 14:23 |
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kf |
tcohen: need bgkriegel for that? |
| 14:23 |
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tcohen |
yeap, he seems to be torturing some students on an exam |
| 14:23 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8911: make sure history.txt gets installed where history.txt can see it <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]660ed93203ecc02d8> |
| 14:26 |
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kf |
tcohen: but gives you time to pick 8911 if you want to :) |
| 14:26 |
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tcohen |
;) |
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tcohen |
kf, have u done a clean packages install recently? |
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kf |
not recently i have to confess |
| 14:27 |
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tcohen |
is it true that there are SIP-related messages or it is just me? |
| 14:27 |
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kf |
maybe drojf has |
| 14:27 |
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kf |
hm my coworker build packages from 3.12.1 + 4 patches or so from us |
| 14:28 |
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kf |
but he is already gone, he didn't mention any problems |
| 14:28 |
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tcohen |
is not a problem, it doesnt fail |
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tcohen |
It just says "Starting SIP server for instance... " and does nothing |
| 14:29 |
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eythian |
does nothing? |
| 14:29 |
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eythian |
can you clarify? |
| 14:30 |
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eythian |
there's no such thing as "does nothing" :) |
| 14:30 |
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eythian |
unless it immediately reaches maximum entropy, I suppose. |
| 14:31 |
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slef |
any koha list admins awake? |
| 14:31 |
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eythian |
who would be awake at this time of day? |
| 14:31 |
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tcohen |
i don't have SIP configured but the koha-common init script advertises that stuff related to SIP is being started |
| 14:31 |
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eythian |
tcohen: that's not an answer. What do you mean when you say "does nothing"? |
| 14:32 |
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eythian |
Does it start a SIP daemon? Does it say the name of the instance? Does it freeze the computer up? Does the init script terminate, does it keep loading zebra daemons like it should? |
| 14:33 |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 172.16.248.213 pasted "root koha-dev:~# service koha-" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/130 |
| 14:33 |
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eythian |
OK, so it doesn't do nothing then, that makes more sense :) |
| 14:33 |
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tcohen |
i'm sorry for any idiomatic confusion |
| 14:33 |
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eythian |
it just means you have a SIPconfig.xml in /etc/koha/sites/eco |
| 14:34 |
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eythian |
tcohen: you just need to describe things like a programmer :) |
| 14:34 |
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tcohen |
touche |
| 14:35 |
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eythian |
wahanui: touche is <reply>touché |
| 14:35 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 14:36 |
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rambutan1 |
touche? |
| 14:36 |
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wahanui |
touché |
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* eythian |
continues the trend of being precise :) |
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rambutan1 |
touché? |
| 14:36 |
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rambutan1 |
doesn't respond to that |
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* tcohen |
noticed :-P |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
touché? |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
I wonder why everyone else's acutes show up as question marks for me. |
| 14:36 |
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eythian |
it is a different word |
| 14:36 |
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rambutan1 |
wahanui: touché os <reply>touché |
| 14:36 |
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wahanui |
rambutan1: i'm not following you... |
| 14:37 |
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rambutan1 |
wahanui: touché is <reply>touché |
| 14:37 |
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wahanui |
OK, rambutan1. |
| 14:37 |
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rambutan1 |
touché? |
| 14:37 |
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wahanui |
touché |
| 14:37 |
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jcamins |
eythian: oh, what accent is everyone else using? |
| 14:38 |
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eythian |
the regular accent. |
| 14:38 |
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eythian |
é |
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rambutan1 |
En`guard´? |
| 14:38 |
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eythian |
compose-e-' |
| 14:38 |
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jcamins |
What do you see when I type "é"? |
| 14:38 |
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eythian |
e-accent |
| 14:38 |
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eythian |
jcamins: oh |
| 14:38 |
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eythian |
I was answering rambutan1 |
| 14:39 |
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eythian |
all the accents/acutes look correct to me |
| 14:39 |
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jcamins |
Huh. I guess my terminal has the wrong settings. |
| 14:39 |
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eythian |
Tekenset: IRC (Latin/Unicode Hybrid) |
| 14:39 |
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eythian |
that's what I'm using |
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jcamins |
Hrm. I just have it set to UTF-8. |
| 14:40 |
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eythian |
your client probable isn't understanding latin that some people might be |
| 14:40 |
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eythian |
+using |
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druthb |
jcamins: dö my ö letters löök wröng? |
| 14:40 |
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jcamins |
druthb: nope. |
| 14:40 |
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jcamins |
I mean, they look wrong because how the heck do you pronounced "löök" but I see the umlauts. |
| 14:41 |
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druthb |
:P |
| 14:41 |
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eythian |
jcamins: like "luuuuu*breath*uuuuul" |
| 14:41 |
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eythian |
*k |
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* druthb |
is way möre metal than yoü. |
| 14:42 |
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eythian |
mötörhead has left the building. |
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druthb |
eythian: I saw m?t?rhead, not mötörhead |
| 14:43 |
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eythian |
it probably ended up sending as latin1 or something. |
| 14:43 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7143: add latest batch of committers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e1c14a143ab137898> / Bug 7143 - Updating history and about page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]31ef916f1f73fd975> |
| 14:44 |
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rambutan1 |
well, everything looks right to me using xchat on openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) |
| 14:44 |
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druthb |
(and it's Motörhead, not Mötörhead. Even they aren't that ostentatious.) :P |
| 14:44 |
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eythian |
rambutan1: because xchat uses Latin1/unicode hybrid by default. |
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rambutan1 |
Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango |
| 14:45 |
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eythian |
where's that? |
| 14:45 |
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wahanui |
that is a good idea. |
| 14:45 |
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rambutan1 |
xchat: about |
| 14:45 |
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kf |
? |
| 14:45 |
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kf |
ßßßööüüää? |
| 14:45 |
|
* jcamins |
could read all that. |
| 14:46 |
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eythian |
you want xchat->network list->select the network->edit->charset |
| 14:46 |
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eythian |
as it does a conversion at the connection level |
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rambutan1 |
OK, now that doesn't work, unless that's GE-Arabic mixed |
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druthb |
Those look fine to me, kf. |
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jcamins |
I guess it's pronounced sssssssssssssooooeeeeeeoooooooeeeeeuuuuuuuueeeeeeeuuuuuuueeeeeeeaaaaaeeeeaaaaaeeee? |
| 14:46 |
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eythian |
jcamins: it's a short moon language word |
| 14:47 |
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druthb |
السلام عليك |
| 14:47 |
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druthb |
? |
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kf |
eythian: :P |
| 14:47 |
|
* druthb |
tries to see how many chat clients she can make choke at once. |
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jcamins |
That's too small for me to read. |
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jcamins |
I think you were going for السلام عليكم |
| 14:48 |
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jcamins |
But you seem to be missing a few letters. |
| 14:48 |
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jcamins |
Or they're just soo small that I can't see them. |
| 14:48 |
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druthb |
sloppy cut-and-paste, yeah. |
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druthb |
And your Arabic came thorough just fine here, jcamins. |
| 14:50 |
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rambutan1 |
ภาษาเขียน |
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jcamins |
rambutan1: Thai? |
| 14:50 |
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druthb |
Thai, and it looks fine. :) |
| 14:50 |
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rambutan1 |
si |
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jcamins |
In that case, it came through fine. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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druthb |
लिखित à¤à¤¾à¤·à¤¾? |
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rambutan1 |
í•œêµë§ |
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druthb |
Now I see why Hindi and Arabic typically use bigger font sizes. *squint* |
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rambutan1 |
안녕 mtompset |
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druthb |
Hi, mtompset! :D |
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mtompset |
Greetings, druthb rambutan1. |
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druthb |
We're trying to give weak IRC clients a nervous breakdown. |
| 14:53 |
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mtompset |
Oh, I name dropped your name to a librarian colleague of mine, druthb, since I don't know how to get involved in the translation of Koha into Tagalog, Illocano, etc. |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10197: Add classes to patron info list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f798d2c49f50adcf> / Bug 10604: DBRev 3.13.00.014 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b33818ad926a88c07> / Bug 10604: increase width of two columns in the courses table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]tdiff;h=3793bfe9e |
| 14:54 |
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tcohen |
is this ok in english: "Debian packages users: About Koha > Timeline was fixed for new instances. If you want it fixed on previously created instances you need to add <docdir>/usr/share/doc/koha-common</docdir> to the instance's koha-conf.xml file, on the <config> section." |
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druthb |
mtompset: Moar Translators! mtompset++ |
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mtompset |
Seems fine, tcohen. So, to fix older instances, you need to add that docdir line into your koha-conf.xml for the instance? |
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nengard |
hi all... just wanted to pop in an apologize for the recent silence on my part - i've been on the road nearly constantly since June 27th ... pluse we're prepping for a move to Texas here for Bri's new job - I'm still around and haven't forgotten about all of you! |
| 14:55 |
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nengard |
Tomorrow i'm heading to OSCon where I'll talk up Koha with everyone I meet :) |
| 14:55 |
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tcohen |
on 3.12.2, yes |
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druthb |
bgkreigel and tcohen have taken over that role, but I'll be glad to give 'em tips and encouragement to get 'em started. |
| 14:55 |
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druthb |
Hi, nengard. :P |
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mtompset |
tcohen: Then what you wrote is perfectly okay. :) |
| 14:56 |
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druthb |
Just run off and forget about us…. *dramatic sob* |
| 14:56 |
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mtompset |
druthb: My librarian colleague is on a Filipino mailing list in which they are all trying to do Fedora-based installs mostly. |
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* mtompset |
pokes, druthb, "Drama Queen!" |
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druthb |
That would be me, yes. When I need to be. I'm not Catholic enough to guilt-trip nengard, and she's immune to my machinations anyway; she's known me too long. |
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mtompset |
I also name dropped tcohen too. ;) |
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druthb |
nengard is responsible for the ugliest picture of druthb known to exist. |
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mtompset |
ugliest? |
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nengard |
huh |
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nengard |
what |
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nengard |
i don't take ugly pictures :) |
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druthb |
https://www.facebook.com/photo[…]88&type=3&theater |
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nengard |
k ... that person isn't ugly ... it's just not you anymore :) |
| 14:59 |
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mtompset |
That's not a bad picture at all! |
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druthb |
I have continuity of memory with that being, but it's pretty blurry. |
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mtompset |
It's a good picture of who you were. |
| 15:01 |
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mtompset |
Okay, strange question. I grabbed linux mint. |
| 15:01 |
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mtompset |
I hate desktop. |
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druthb |
At that point, I was trying to get Koha running on an Asus EEEpc 900 that I'd bought used on Craigslist, mostly to prove I could do it. |
| 15:01 |
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mtompset |
How do you uninstall a desktop and get a distribution to just do command line? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: apt-get remove x11? |
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druthb |
I still have that Asus, nengard. It's now my media center. :D (with a 3 TB external drive, natch) |
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nengard |
wow |
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nengard |
that's an idea .... we have an old tower for our media server |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10552: make several sysprefs available to the OPAC login page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cb90e8a5ba4b6289b> |
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druthb |
It runs OpenELEC/XBMC just fine! :) |
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eythian |
mtompset: what mint? |
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wahanui |
mint is a debian based one, and is nicer than ubuntu |
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eythian |
debian or ubuntu based? |
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druthb |
The only thing not working is the wireless, but since I've got it on the router, it's a non-issue for me. |
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eythian |
does it have a mint-desktop package, similar to ubuntu? |
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mtompset |
ubuntu-based. |
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mtompset |
I think. |
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mtompset |
Olivia? |
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eythian |
perhaps you can just remove that package and install mint-minimal, or something along those lines. |
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* eythian |
has never used mint, so is just extrapolating. |
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mtompset |
druthb: Sounds like some nice tech. :) |
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mtompset |
Those Asus EEE's are nice. I'm using my Asus EEE 1015PEM right now. :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, eythian jcamins pianohacker nengard tcohen. I think I got everyone I missed before. :) |
| 15:13 |
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mtompset |
I just installed (micro symbol)torrent the other day on my desktop. I keep getting corrupted ISOs when I download. To think I'm using it for legitimate purposes, given torrents' reputation otherwise. |
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eythian |
torrents shouldn't be able to result in corrupted files, in general,. |
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eythian |
they checksum each part. |
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eythian |
s/checksum/hash/ |
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eythian |
if there's errors in it, they discard it. |
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mtompset |
No, the torrents are good. My brower downloads weren't. |
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mtompset |
Sorry for the ambiguity. |
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eythian |
ah, that's more likely :) |
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eythian |
in that case, you chuck the browser file into the torrent directory and let it fix it by replacing the bad bits, it's very quick. |
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mtompset |
That's what I did. :) |
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eythian |
good :) |
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rambutan1 |
I'm late to the party, but Mint w/ Mate is the greatest OS+desktop ever invented (obligatory IMHO) |
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eythian |
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge <-- hmm |
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rambutan1 |
$32,000,000? |
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rambutan1 |
obviously they're looking for name-brand corporate contributions. $5 and $10 individual donations won't get the goal |
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eythian |
rambutan1: that's not how it works |
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eythian |
for $600 you get one |
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eythian |
or $830 |
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mtompset |
So over 50,000 people? |
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jcamins |
Only 39k at $830. |
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mtompset |
So they are aiming for 39-54k people? |
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mtompset |
Only 7.5% of the planet? |
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eythian |
err |
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eythian |
there is more than that number of people on the planet. |
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eythian |
by quite a bit |
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mtompset |
Oops... e-6 |
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mtompset |
That's a multiple shift problem. Oops. :) |
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tcohen |
eythian: would you take a look at bug 10617 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10617 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Init script cleanup |
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eythian |
I don't like removing the commented out status thing. It'd be better to implement it. |
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drojf |
eythian: i have to edit debian/control and control.in f i want to add a dependency? |
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eythian |
drojf: oh, I actually got that wrong in hindsight. |
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tcohen |
and apart from that eythian? |
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eythian |
assuming it's a perl dep, just control.in, and that should be done by using debain/update-control |
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drojf |
ok. and if it is not a perl dep like gnupg? |
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eythian |
drojf: then it must be in control.in |
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drojf |
so if it is a perl dep it must be in control.in and if not then the same? you sounded like it made a difference at first ;) |
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eythian |
drojf: no, one of those was a typo |
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drojf |
argh :D |
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eythian |
for a perl dep: control, however it should be generated with debian/update-control |
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eythian |
for a non-perl-dep, both. |
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drojf |
from what is control generated? (if you say from control.in i am completely confused) |
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tcohen |
we don't have a daemon running btw |
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eythian |
drojf: from control.in |
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drojf |
lol |
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eythian |
tcohen: yes we do, zebra and optionally sipserver |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10576: make strings in additem.js accessible to translation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5d679b1312975e74d> |
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tcohen |
so service koha-common status should check everything that is set to is running, and alert otherwise? |
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drojf |
ok, so i 1) add my non-perl dep to control.in 2) use update-control to generate control and then add the perl-dep manually? |
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eythian |
tcohen: yeah, it should check that everything that should be running is |
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eythian |
drojf: no. update-control takes control.in, adds the perl deps to it, and creates control |
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* drojf |
needs a comprehension beer |
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mtompset |
http://imgur.com/gallery/M1KU6MO (a humorous variation on 99 bottles of beer on the wall) |
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eythian |
so if it's a perl dep, you just regenerated from control.in |
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eythian |
if it's a non-perl dep, you put it in control.in and regenerate from control.in, or be lazy and just put it in both of them. |
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drojf |
and some people say ACQ workflows are weird |
| 15:48 |
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drojf |
on a second thought, now it sounds easy |
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drojf |
thanks eythian, i'll come back and cry if it does not work ;) |
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eythian |
OK :) |
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eythian |
it all makes sense if you compare the two files. |
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drojf |
i remember one had a lot more stuff in it ;) |
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mtompset |
will that be before or after the comprehension beer, drojf? ;) |
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drojf |
mtompset: way after :D |
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tcohen |
i updated the patch eythian, thanks for the input |
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* drojf |
has to change libraries |
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drojf |
later |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10578: fix results sorting in staff interface <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87577a8686c07d27c> |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10586: fix CSS styling when printing cart from Firefox <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba3dd59255ee26926> |
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reiveune |
bye |
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mtompset |
Oooo... royal baby is on its way. |
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eythian |
rumour has it there's three arms. |
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cait |
? |
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eythian |
¿ |
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cait |
that was just a strange comment to come back online to :) |
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gmcharlt |
time to reread "A Study In Emerald" by Neil Gaiman |
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cait |
oh |
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eythian |
is that the "A young lady's primer" one? |
| 16:45 |
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eythian |
no wait |
| 16:45 |
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eythian |
that's Neal Stephenson |
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pianohacker |
Neal Stephenson! |
| 16:58 |
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pianohacker |
cait: I'm working on a pretty complex JavaScript application, and the "no translation of JavaScript strings outside templates" restriction is really bugging me. How hard do you think that would be to fix? |
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cait |
you would need to write a script that can successfully parse the js files |
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cait |
i have no idea how complex that really is |
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pianohacker |
cait: hmm, okay |
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cait |
would using an include work? |
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cait |
Owen used one to make datatables controls translatable |
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cait |
maybe take a look at that? |
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pianohacker |
True, that's something |
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pianohacker |
I remember how utterly insane that thing is, but fixing the underlying issue might be a better long-term solution |
| 17:00 |
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pianohacker |
thanks for the duct-tape though :) |
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cait |
yeah - it might not be even that hard if you know what you are doing.... so that rules out me doing it :) |
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cait |
pianohacker: one nice thing about not fixing it is, that we don't have to copy the js files for every language |
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cait |
i think most of them have no moved outside of the language directories even? |
| 17:03 |
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cait |
have now... |
| 17:04 |
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gmcharlt |
yeah, for exactly that reason, I'd rather that we not end up having to copy the javascript around during installation |
| 17:05 |
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gmcharlt |
a messagecatalog-like construct might be easier to work with, perhaps |
| 17:05 |
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cait |
gmcharlt: we have an open bug about them not being translatable... i think I'd like to close it thinking about those side effects |
| 17:05 |
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pianohacker |
true that |
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cait |
gmcharlt: can you explain that a bit? |
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gmcharlt |
cait: sure, something like this: https://code.google.com/p/jquery-i18n-properties/ |
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pianohacker |
And I'm trying to keep this pretty modular, but UI code with every single string replaced by LONG_UPPERCASE_CONSTANT is pretty ugly, awkward and unnecessarily indirect IMO |
| 17:07 |
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pianohacker |
trying to get an idea of how strings tie together in an application translated that way is often rather difficult |
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cait |
gmcharlt: that looks easy to read, butnot sure how to make the properties fieles usable with pootle |
| 17:08 |
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gmcharlt |
cait: oh, *that* has got to be pretty easy to write a .pot parser for |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
i totally believe you when you say that :) |
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cait |
i just don't want to end up with something like the cataloguing xml plugins :( |
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cait |
we missed thinking aobu translatability when they went in, and they stayed untranslatable for a pretty long time :( |
| 17:09 |
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cait |
so better think about those things early |
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gmcharlt |
easy enough to make it a requirement for accepting a patch that uses jquery.i18n (or whatever) |
| 17:09 |
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pianohacker |
cait: What are you talking about? |
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cait |
we got really nice plugins for cataloguing based on xml - but noone thought that the scripts wouldn't be able to deal with them |
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cait |
i have no idea who contributed them.. hope not stepping on toes here |
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cait |
we all just missed it and then it sat there |
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cait |
*sighs* |
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cait |
i just go and qa some ok? :) |
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cait |
I think i am not making sense again. |
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eythian |
you could probably do some interesting things with translation for JS |
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eythian |
like externalise all your strings |
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eythian |
so you JS load the translations file and it's all inserted at runtime in the browser. |
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cait |
all the strings inside JS or all all strings? |
| 17:17 |
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eythian |
just in the js |
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cait |
k |
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tcohen |
@seen bgkriegel |
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huginn` |
tcohen: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 58 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> @later tell dcook Bug 9458 is now in 3.10.x, less fancy than 3.12 but works well |
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tcohen |
hmm |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: could jquery-i18n-properties conflict with our own i18n handling? |
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tcohen |
(i.e. it won't be looking at KohaOpacLang cookie) |
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cait |
btw gmcharlt++ for explaining :) |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: what i18n of our JavaScript do we have currently? ;) |
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gmcharlt |
more seriously, yes, presumably glue code would have to be written to get the correct current language |
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cait |
we would be starting with the js files... and maybe extend to the javascript in the pages later... if there is a good reason those shoudl not be separate js files i guess? |
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tcohen |
we are currently translating some JS using _("") on the themes |
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tcohen |
i agree we should move javascript outside the translatable stuff |
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pianohacker |
gmcharlt: So, besides this translation stuff, what would be the best place to put non-language specific JS right now that isn't from an external library? |
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jcamins |
I was thinking koha-tmpl/[intranet|opac]-tmpl/lib/koha/ |
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gmcharlt |
that works for me |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: I like lib/koha |
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gmcharlt |
koha-tmpl/*-tmpl/js also works for me, but would require a bit of patching to the install and packaging scripts to tbe recognized |
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cait |
hm on the risk of this being not a very clever question - is there a reason we have 2 plugins that look like they are for the branch names? (TT plugins) |
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gmcharlt |
cait: because we hate the DRY principle, apparently |
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cait |
at least i am not hallucinating ... |
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cait |
so ok to open a bug about those? |
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gmcharlt |
yep; I see no reason not to consolidate them |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
weird thing - both seem to be from khall? |
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gmcharlt |
@blame khall |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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gmcharlt |
probably just as well that huginn doesn't have that plugin enabled :) |
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cait |
what would it do? :) |
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gmcharlt |
just provide a funny message |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
druthb: Quote #233: "<oleonard> How about Now that she's three my daughter has terrible authority control" (added by gmcharlt at 05:06 PM, February 14, 2013) |
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cait |
@excuse |
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huginn` |
cait: My excuse for today is "global warming" |
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cait |
that's very fitting huginn |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.9°C (7:55 PM CEST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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druthb |
@wunder 77063 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 35.3°C (1:16 PM CDT on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
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druthb |
! |
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druthb |
@excuse |
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huginn` |
druthb: My excuse for today is "global warming" |
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druthb |
fair 'nuf. |
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druthb |
wahanui: cait? |
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wahanui |
go back to bed, cait. |
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druthb |
LOL |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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cait |
hi oleonard .) |
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druthb |
hi, oleonard! :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard. |
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mtompset |
@excuse |
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huginn` |
mtompset: My excuse for today is "global warming" |
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oleonard |
Pretty good excuse these days, given the weather around here. |
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mtompset |
Someone should change that to "Climate Change". "global warming" is less vogue. ;) |
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* druthb |
blames mtompset. |
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mtompset |
http://youtu.be/bOR38552MJA (South Park: Blame Canada) |
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oleonard |
nengard: Bug 10623 is about items which are lost and checked out at the same time? Long overdue? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10623 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , item lost says 'checked out' |
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nengard |
long overdue/lost |
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nengard |
and still checked out |
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wahanui |
checked out is set to 0000-00-00. |
| 18:49 |
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nengard |
no it's not :) |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10516 - Follow up - Fixing capitalization <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]493926181389efa6a> / Bug 10516 - Improve titles, breadcrumbs, and confirmation messages for Z39.50 server... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a00a93777984c7a5> |
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cait |
pianohacker: still around? |
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pianohacker |
cait: yeah, what's up? |
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cait |
can you please rebase 10486? |
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cait |
i can't get it to apply |
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cait |
Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. |
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cait |
well, whenever you got time :) |
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cait |
it looks like it's opac.css giving trouble |
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pianohacker |
crapspackle |
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pianohacker |
okay, I'll do that |
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druthb |
crapspackle? |
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* druthb |
falls out of her chair laughing. |
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druthb |
That's a new one. |
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pianohacker |
druthb: khall++ :) |
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druthb |
you're blaming khall for that? |
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pianohacker |
yup |
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druthb |
heh |
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druthb |
Interesting image, to be sure. |
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druthb |
Saw an interesting note on a whiteboard here, pianohacker and gmcharlt, that you might approve of… |
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pianohacker |
oh? |
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druthb |
"Why innovate? " "echo 'STABLE' | sed 's/B//' " #that's why |
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pianohacker |
Hah! excellent |
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gmcharlt |
hehe |
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druthb |
It is particularly relevant here, since our releases are always tagged like that— MAINT, STABLE, EDGE |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10557: remove unused branch parameter from GetBooksellersWithLateOrders <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ca654471eebf949a3> |
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rambutan1 |
@wunder 64507 |
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huginn` |
rambutan1: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 35.3°C (2:11 PM CDT on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
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jcamins |
Wow. Queens_Library-- # For having two books listed as overdue in my account *EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE LISTED AS AVAILABLE IN THE CATALOG* |
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* cait |
is just glad that's not a Koha bug |
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cait |
enough bugs for today - good night all :) |
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pianohacker |
bye cait |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Is that like being on super-secret probation? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: no, I think it's more like Queens Library once again being on the forefront of library disservice. |
| 19:14 |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: tell us what you really think! ;) |
| 19:14 |
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jcamins |
I feel like I should tweet how appalled I am about this. |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
:) |
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jcamins |
I'm sure they'll remove the books from my record, but for crying out loud, their website has a shortcut for reporting that this has happened. |
| 19:15 |
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jcamins |
Pro tip: when you need a special shortcut to allow people to report that your system is broken, you need a new system. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: to be fair, the library staff may be in full agreement with that statement |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: I would think so. But that doesn't make it any less appalling. |
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* jcamins |
sends them a complaint to add to their file, just in case they're one short for getting things changed. |
| 19:23 |
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mtompset |
You could always mention that you do Koha support. ;) |
| 19:23 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: frankly, any ILS that functions would be an improvement. |
| 19:23 |
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jcamins |
It takes three minutes -- well, almost -- to log in to my account. |
| 19:24 |
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mtompset |
True, but given this is the Koha channel, I thought I would suggest you push Koha first. ;) |
| 19:25 |
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mtompset |
3 minutes?! Even with my patch and some weird SAML laginess, it doesn't take more than 20 seconds for me and Koha. :) |
| 19:25 |
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jcamins |
Since I wouldn't be interested in working with them, I'll leave the suggestion off. |
| 19:28 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, their website is made of win. |
| 19:28 |
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jcamins |
I tried to submit a complaint about the fact that this is apparently a systematic feature (Shari says it's happened to her too), and they rejected the complaint option and lost my message. |
| 19:29 |
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oleonard |
All part of the plan. |
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mtompset |
Cheaper than goats behind the wall of a suggestion box. ;) |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I have a usability question for you. Do you think clicking on an item in a list to select it is fairly predictable? (not in Koha; I know in Koha we always use checkboxes regardless how predictable it is) |
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oleonard |
Clicking an item in a list *without* a checkbox? |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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oleonard |
I would think that is not typically predictable. |
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oleonard |
Do you have real-world examples? |
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jcamins |
Yes, I'm trying to find it again. |
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jcamins |
Mr. Helpful Kitty just climbed on my keyboard. |
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jcamins |
Actually, we do have an example in Koha. |
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jcamins |
I had forgotten about it. |
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jcamins |
In the quotes editor. |
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oleonard |
I think such interfaces would either have to be accompanied by explanatory text or styled in such a way that it was clear what to do |
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mtompset |
Oops... running late. Bye, #koha. |
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drojf |
good evening #koha |
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jcamins |
drojf: you should get Koha running on an arduino. |
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drojf |
lol |
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jcamins |
Then we could have a fully-mobile library system. |
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wizzyrea |
or a pi |
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jcamins |
Give it some legs, and it could follow after you: "would you like a book?" |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: drojf already did that. |
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wizzyrea |
oh you mean for the legs. |
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wizzyrea |
i bet it is not fast. |
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wizzyrea |
we are running rasbmc on ours now - it's nice |
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wizzyrea |
it's just a fun little computer thing |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: well, I was thinking of having Koha running on the arduino chip as well, but I suppose you could hook an rPi to an arduino to tell it to walk. |
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drojf |
i have an arduino hooked to a pi |
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drojf |
so yes, you can ;) |
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jcamins |
Actually, with Plack, Koha on an rPi isn't bad at all. |
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wizzyrea |
confetti! |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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jcamins |
Provided you don't want to do anything big. |
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jcamins |
Importing 56k records? |
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jcamins |
Bad idea. |
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drojf |
it's alright for a small library. if only plack would be completely working |
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wizzyrea |
oh, jcamins, to get the small confetti, you have to exclamation point |
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wizzyrea |
also good morning. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: ohhhhh. |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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wizzyrea |
confetti |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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jcamins |
Or maybe it just hates me. |
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wizzyrea |
oh or it's got two responses |
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jcamins |
confetti |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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jcamins |
confetti |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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jcamins |
confetti |
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wahanui |
confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
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wizzyrea |
yep :) |
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drojf |
confetti |
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wahanui |
well, confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
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jcamins |
Yeah, it just didn't feel like throwing any confetti the other day. |
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wizzyrea |
more confetti! |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' |
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wizzyrea |
you can always get it with more confetti lol. |
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drojf |
i don't know how to survive with only two raspberry pi. i have one with that music distribution i can't remember the name of… but i want my raspberry koha back and i also want one running asterisk… |
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jcamins |
drojf: asterisk? |
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jcamins |
I tried to set up a mumble server, and it didn't work too well. |
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jcamins |
It kept on drowning the logs with errors about lag or something like that. |
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jcamins |
Also, Shari resolutely refused to use an intercom in a 1br apartment. |
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jcamins |
She prefers shouting. |
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drojf |
i have an xmpp server and bittorrent on the other. and things i forgot about |
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drojf |
asterisk is a telephone voip whatever thingy. i'd like to play with voip tp gsm |
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* oleonard |
sneaks up behind wizzyrea and goes BOO |
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drojf |
*to |
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wizzyrea |
HI |
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jcamins |
drojf: yeah, I know what asterisk is, I'm just doubtful about how well it will work, if mumble didn't work. |
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wizzyrea |
sup oleonard |
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drojf |
i see |
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drojf |
there is a distribution for that |
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drojf |
and i have seen something… mom |
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jcamins |
Well- I guess mumble did work, it just complained a lot about how it wasn't working. |
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oleonard |
I am workin' the late shift today. |
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wizzyrea |
WOO! |
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* wizzyrea |
thought you were going to tell me that the responsive demo was broken or something :) |
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jcamins |
oleonard: oh, BTW, kiwiirc works over port 80 if you're at the super-restrictive firewalled library again in the future. |
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drojf |
jcamins: http://blog.carrier-connect.co[…]erry-gsm-gateway/ seems to work very well |
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oleonard |
No, I'm not actually doing any Koha work today because I'm doing regular librarian stuff |
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wizzyrea |
*gasp& |
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wizzyrea |
you are observing koha in the wild, looking for ways to make it better? ;) |
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jcamins |
drojf: whoah, cool! |
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oleonard |
Yes, I've found that we really need to build in an "I forgot my library card" module |
| 21:44 |
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wizzyrea |
whereby the koha server gets up, walks to their house, and retrieves it based on the radio signal from the chip in the library card? |
| 21:45 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I thought that module was supposed to extrude an arm from the monitor and dope slap the patron. |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
i'd like that |
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* wizzyrea |
spits tea |
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wizzyrea |
bwa hahahaha |
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wizzyrea |
http://s236.photobucket.com/us[…]ter-slap.gif.html |
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rambutan1 |
I want one of these: |
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rambutan1 |
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rigol-[…]sh=item3f0ffb0e0d |
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pianohacker |
rambutan1: For the bandwidth doubling hack? |
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rambutan1 |
no, to do RF measurements mostly |
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drojf |
wizzyrea: how is raspmbc? now that i have monitor that is capable of hdmi (and huge) i should try that some time too. |
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wizzyrea |
we use it with DLNA - it's fab |
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oleonard |
You guys are just making up words now. |
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drojf |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
dlna is the upnp video streaming service... thingie. |
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drojf |
ok, together with an onion pi for tor i only need like… 10 more pis |
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wizzyrea |
Pi ALL THE THINGS! |
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drojf |
\o/ |
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oleonard |
Geeze, ladies' yoga group you are the loudest. |
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* wizzyrea |
imagines the sound |
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drojf |
yoga group? you seem to have a rather open definition of library |
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oleonard |
They're using our meeting room |
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cjh |
lost internet at home a few days ago, so have to try do the release tonight before I leave work. |
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* oleonard |
idly wonders if anyone named "Destiny" will ever be on the US Supreme Court |
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bag |
ha |
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* jcamins |
wonders if he should report a bug with the automated ticketing system that Queens Library uses, decides to cut his losses. |
| 22:15 |
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jcamins |
It turns out if you submit a ticket with the request that they not contact you it includes the message from the previous ticket the agent addressed. |
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oleonard |
Messages like "How do I renew my books? My library card number is XXX and my password is XXX..." |
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jcamins |
(I submitted a ticket to test the ticket submitting after I had cleared my cache so I could give a complete bug report; in order to be sure they weren't confused, I included the note "please don't respond, this ticket is just a test so that I can provide better information for the bug report that I filed separately") |
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jcamins |
oleonard: more like "Dear [redacted], Your SAP password..." oh my. |
| 22:16 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: yes, _exactly_ like that. |
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drojf |
can we have that in koha? |
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* jcamins |
thinks this has to be written in PHP. |
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jcamins |
Truly, it is a fractal of bad design. |
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oleonard |
I remember looking at the Queens Library web site when we did a big redesign several years ago. Design-wise it has gone downhill. |
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jcamins |
Functionality-wise, it has fallen off a cliff. |
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drojf |
heh |
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rambutan1 |
what ILS do they use? |
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jcamins |
rambutan1: Virtua + Aquabrowser I think. |
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drojf |
druthb! |
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druthb |
drojf! |
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wizzyrea |
aquabrowser is pants. |
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pianohacker |
pianohacker! |
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wahanui |
pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems. |
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oleonard |
wahanui knows this because pianohacker walks without rhythm |
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wahanui |
oleonard: what? |
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cjh |
<3 Dune |
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pianohacker |
hahahahahahaha |
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cjh |
oleonard: heh nice |
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druthb |
lol |
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* druthb |
walks without rhythm, too, but it's because of the bum leg. *shuffle stumble trip BONK* |
| 22:38 |
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pianohacker |
... I recognized that quote from Fatboy Slim, actually... |
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oleonard |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7z57qrZU8 |
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cjh |
> The uploader has not made this video available in your country. |
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pianohacker |
yup :) |
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pianohacker |
cjh: what the hell? That's crap |
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oleonard |
I had a feeling. There are other versions on YouTube though |
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oleonard |
Other copies I mean. |
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oleonard |
They should have a big "you cannot share this outside your country" label on it |
| 22:43 |
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oleonard |
Stop enjoying our cultural exports, foreigners! |
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wizzyrea |
cjh: http://grooveshark.com/s/Weapo[…]oice/43Felf?src=5 |
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cjh |
T.T |
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oleonard |
Except that new Lone Ranger movie. Enjoy that lots because we're not buying tickets for that. |
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pianohacker |
lord sno |
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pianohacker |
*lords no |
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* wizzyrea |
went to see pacific rim over the weekend |
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pianohacker |
how was that? |
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wizzyrea |
that was totally worth it. |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: good? |
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wahanui |
good is the furthest you go back, bad is the furthest you go forward (if those directions make sense) |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: grooveshark is glitching out on that song, odd as it works for any other song. |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: apparently 'the man' doesnt want me to hear this. |
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* cjh |
gives up |
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wizzyrea |
the good: GIANT ROBOTS, giant. robots. Sea monsters. |
| 22:46 |
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wizzyrea |
the bad: only one female character (BUT she's kind of awesome) |
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cjh |
the bad: syncrhonised dancing? |
| 22:46 |
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wizzyrea |
the inbetween: the story was serviceable enough, but as you might expect it lacked real depth. |
| 22:46 |
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wizzyrea |
but seriously, totally worth it just for the giant robot vs sea monster fights. |
| 22:47 |
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wizzyrea |
oh and not gory at all (unless you count blue robot gore as "gory") |
| 22:47 |
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pianohacker |
does it count as passing the bechdel test if she talked to herself? |
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wizzyrea |
haha no |
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wizzyrea |
I don't think bechdel actually applies in this context. |
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wizzyrea |
lol. |
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pianohacker |
hahaha yeah |
| 22:48 |
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wizzyrea |
because bechdel doesn't account for female characters being alone, but awesome |
| 22:48 |
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wizzyrea |
also, no kissing |
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wizzyrea |
if you can believe that. |
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* wizzyrea |
is just glad that the earthquake didn't happen during the movie, we might not have noticed it |
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cjh |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
WOW THIS IS REALLY REALISTIC |
| 22:49 |
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wizzyrea |
......... |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: you would have thought it was one of those '4d cinemas' |
| 22:49 |
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wizzyrea |
ikr |
| 22:49 |
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wizzyrea |
those exist?! |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
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cjh |
at rainbows end they have a mini-cinema where you sit in chairs and get strapped down xD |
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* wizzyrea |
would not like being strapped down to anything in wellington at the moment |
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oleonard |
The Bechdel test requires that there be more than one named female character who speaks to another |
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* jcamins |
complains vehemently on Facebook about how poor the NYT's map visualization of income increases in the US is. |
| 22:50 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, it fails that |
| 22:51 |
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wizzyrea |
...but she's still doing all right as a representative of femalekind I think |
| 22:51 |
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wizzyrea |
I wasn't offended by her silliness anyway |
| 22:52 |
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wizzyrea |
(or lack of silliness, as the case may be) |
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drojf |
3.08.00, koha-dev, kohaclone… i bet it's a live dvd :P |
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drojf |
based on git |
| 22:52 |
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drojf |
and old and rotten |
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wizzyrea |
nah they say they installed it on debian |
| 22:52 |
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jcamins |
drojf: and politically partisan, too, claiming that New York and Boston are special even though they fall somewhere around the median. |
| 22:53 |
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jcamins |
Apparently once you start thinking about visualization, you lose the ability to say "hey, that's a nice visualization." |
| 22:55 |
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drojf |
wizzyrea: hm you are right, they say installed. second guess, old blog post by live dvd manager :P |
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wizzyrea |
now that could totally be |
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wizzyrea |
hourly loans came in 3.8 right? |
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drojf |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
"experienced enough" |
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* wizzyrea |
is not sure of the context here |
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drojf |
hehehe |
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* wizzyrea |
sighs |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/drums/wellington |
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wizzyrea |
that is pretty impressive, I have to say |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: James Bond is taking this shaken, not stirred thing to ridiculous levels |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
most of those you can't really feel on a conscious level. |
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wizzyrea |
well I can't anyway |
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wizzyrea |
can't/dont |
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oleonard |
You hankerin' for a good ol' fashioned tornado yet wizzyrea? |
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wizzyrea |
nah, I don't think so. |
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pastebot |
"rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "how much code by each person still survives" (214 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/131 |
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druthb |
Brilliant! http://laughingsquid.com/hipster-trap/ |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
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drojf |
hi dcook |
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* drojf |
goes to bed |
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drojf |
night #koha |
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dcook |
[off[ oleonard: Who was bitching about MySQL? Other than me, that is :p |
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dcook |
lol |
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* dcook |
had Monday off, so apparently Tuesday is the new Monday |
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tcohen |
hi cjh |
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cjh |
hi tcohen :) |
| 23:54 |
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tcohen |
had a power outage |
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cjh |
tcohen: will do the release tonight after work before I go home |
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tcohen |
ok, what time that would be? |
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cjh |
in 6 hours and 5 minutes, ish :) |
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cjh |
tcohen: dont wait for me though :) |
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tcohen |
i'll be sleeping like apuppy |
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tcohen |
a think i'm releasing right now |
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tcohen |
just tested bernardo's .po files |
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cjh |
awesome :) |
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tcohen |
and the upgrade process |
