| Time |
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Nick |
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| 00:01 |
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jcamins |
Hey, cool. |
| 00:01 |
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jcamins |
LibreOffice has a form mode. |
| 00:01 |
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jcamins |
Which is actually usable. |
| 00:17 |
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dcook |
Argh, writing useful commit messages can be hard when there is potentially a lot to say.. |
| 00:17 |
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jcamins |
I generally just say it all. |
| 00:17 |
|
jcamins |
Witness bug 7284. |
| 00:18 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 00:18 |
|
dcook |
I'm thinking that's best |
| 00:18 |
|
dcook |
Oh wow...nice |
| 00:18 |
|
dcook |
Admittedly, the more information I have to test, the better |
| 00:20 |
|
bag |
welcome back druthb |
| 00:20 |
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bag |
honestly that's my favorite thing to do in IRC |
| 00:21 |
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dcook |
O_o |
| 00:21 |
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bag |
welcome people back when I'm staring at a IRC screen |
| 00:22 |
|
druthb |
lulz |
| 00:35 |
|
jcamins |
Whoah. |
| 00:36 |
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jcamins |
dcook++ |
| 00:38 |
|
dcook |
:) |
| 01:36 |
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| 02:02 |
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| 02:08 |
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thd |
Does anyone know why there are 7 nights on the KohaCon13 schedule but 8 nights on the default conference hotel reservation? |
| 02:11 |
|
bag |
one day give or take? |
| 02:11 |
|
bag |
one day plus or minus? |
| 02:12 |
|
thd |
bag: I am wondering if I am not taking account of something which the conference planners have in mind. |
| 02:13 |
|
dcook |
Which links are you looking at, thd? |
| 02:13 |
|
bag |
let's see… 3 days of conference. 1 day fun, 3 days hackfest… = 7 nights… maybe they are accounting for international travels and you need a day before or a day after for arrival/leaving ? |
| 02:15 |
|
thd |
bag: Maybe the link was for 9 nights at the conference hotel by default. |
| 02:16 |
|
dcook |
The plan is definitely for me to arrive the day before the conference starts and leave the morning after the last hackfest day |
| 02:16 |
|
dcook |
So that makes sense for the 8 nights of hotel but 7 nights of KohaCon |
| 02:16 |
|
bag |
well that's a good plan dcook |
| 02:16 |
|
bag |
thd: not sure…. |
| 02:16 |
|
dcook |
bag: I'll only be coming from Vancouver though, as I'm planning to fly up early ;) |
| 02:16 |
|
eythian |
yeah, a day to recover from travel to out of the way places like that is a good thing to have. |
| 02:17 |
|
bag |
awesome! |
| 02:17 |
|
wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag |
| 02:17 |
|
* dcook |
reminds himself that backporting is eeeeevil |
| 02:17 |
|
dcook |
jcamins++ |
| 02:17 |
|
dcook |
At least, I think it was Jared who put all those lovely AuthoritiesMarc subs in place. Very very useful. |
| 02:18 |
|
thd |
It seems that either I miscounted or the number in the default reservation was changed. |
| 02:20 |
|
thd |
dcook: Why would you consider backporting to be eeeeevil? |
| 02:20 |
|
dcook |
Well, not in and of itself |
| 02:21 |
|
dcook |
I'm just trying to make a backport of the z39.50 authority searching I wrote on master |
| 02:21 |
|
dcook |
It depends on a lot of things introduced in 3.10/3.12 |
| 02:21 |
|
dcook |
But I'm doing it for 3.8.0 |
| 02:21 |
|
dcook |
It's actually not that bad... |
| 02:21 |
|
dcook |
Pretty messy though |
| 02:21 |
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thd |
dcook: By eeeeevil do you mean messy? |
| 02:22 |
|
dcook |
By eeeeevil I mean messy, time-consuming, more difficult to maintain, etc |
| 02:23 |
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thd |
dcook: Perhaps the messiness problem could be addressed with an additional namespace for functions which have changed. |
| 02:28 |
|
thd |
dcook: With a special namespace such as "features3_10-12" , you could add parallel code from 3.10-12 and then change any backported functionality to use only functions from that namespace. |
| 02:28 |
|
dcook |
thd: Yeah, I was just pondering that, and I'm liking this idea :) |
| 02:31 |
|
tcohen |
good night #koha |
| 02:31 |
|
dcook |
night tcohen |
| 02:33 |
|
thd |
dcook: I think the only problem would be watching whether some variable imported from the old code would be expecting to hold different parameters or values for new namespace functions. In such a possible case, you would need to pass variables through a filter for the new namespace which would supply appropriate parameters or values. |
| 02:35 |
|
* thd |
is off to backport some things from Debian experimental. |
| 02:35 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:36 |
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| 04:16 |
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| 04:32 |
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* dcook |
waves to cait |
| 04:32 |
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* cait |
waves back |
| 04:34 |
|
eythian |
hi cait |
| 04:34 |
|
cait |
hi eythian |
| 04:34 |
|
eythian |
it's 6.30 am, what are you doing? |
| 04:34 |
|
cait |
getting ready for work and have breakfast? :) |
| 04:35 |
|
cait |
it's 4:35 pm - what are you doing? |
| 04:36 |
|
eythian |
working, the ususal. |
| 04:42 |
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trea |
o/ |
| 04:57 |
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| 05:03 |
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| 05:08 |
|
eythian |
huh, many of these records have the ':' leading the subtitle rather than trailing the title. That's odd. |
| 05:11 |
|
dcook |
eythian: data migration time? |
| 05:11 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 05:12 |
|
dcook |
Always fun times. |
| 05:19 |
|
cait |
:(i still can't get the yui plugin to work |
| 05:20 |
|
* dcook |
thinks this might be because yui is evil |
| 05:20 |
|
cait |
ah right |
| 05:20 |
|
cait |
testing a replacement of yui actually |
| 05:20 |
|
dcook |
:D |
| 05:20 |
|
cait |
bug 8278 |
| 05:20 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 05:20 |
|
dcook |
Do you use UNIMARC or USMARC, cait? |
| 05:20 |
|
dcook |
usually i mean |
| 05:21 |
|
eythian |
dcook: Deutschemarc, of course. |
| 05:22 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Makes sense given the instability of the Euro, eh? |
| 05:22 |
|
eythian |
heh |
| 05:22 |
|
dcook |
:p |
| 05:24 |
|
cait |
i trid unimarc |
| 05:24 |
|
cait |
but here we are using marc21 |
| 05:24 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, I thought that might be the case |
| 05:25 |
|
* dcook |
wonders if there is a group of pirates out there who would offer to translate Koha into pirate... |
| 05:25 |
|
cait |
why not klingon? |
| 05:26 |
|
dcook |
Ideologically speaking, I think the pirate and the librarian have a certain amount in common. |
| 05:26 |
|
dcook |
Or maybe I'm confusing pirates and ninjas.. |
| 05:26 |
|
dcook |
Klingon could work too! |
| 05:26 |
|
cjh |
cait: in theory we can program koha in klingon http://search.cpan.org/~mschwe[…]nganHol/yIghun.pm |
| 05:27 |
|
cait |
and there people wonder why somoene would think perl is a bit cryptical... |
| 05:27 |
|
cait |
hah got the plugin working :) |
| 05:28 |
|
eythian |
http://search.cpan.org/~lbroca[…]lib/Acme/Buffy.pm <-- could just use this |
| 05:29 |
|
cjh |
it certainly removes all the unsightly symbols that people complain about |
| 05:33 |
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| 05:33 |
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cait |
of course |
| 05:33 |
|
cait |
now my qa script is broken.... |
| 05:34 |
|
cait |
hm fixed |
| 05:39 |
|
dcook |
"For example, the procedural command: |
| 05:39 |
|
dcook |
Hich DoSmey yIbaH! |
| 05:39 |
|
dcook |
translates as: |
| 05:39 |
|
dcook |
fire($weapon,@targets);" |
| 05:39 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 05:40 |
|
cait |
wow :) |
| 06:03 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, Library of Congress and LibrariesAustralia...did you conspire to use different Bib-1 attributes for your z39.50 databases? |
| 06:04 |
|
eythian |
it sounds like you're assuming standards here. |
| 06:04 |
|
eythian |
A fatal mistake |
| 06:04 |
|
dcook |
Well, I could understand maybe not supporting some of those new fangled attributes from 1995 |
| 06:04 |
|
dcook |
But some of the basics.. |
| 06:05 |
|
eythian |
You're working with a standard from the 70's, 95 is a bit too modern. |
| 06:05 |
|
mtj |
hey all, does anyone know what the 'object' id is, in the viewlog - for circ ? |
| 06:05 |
|
cait |
it varies |
| 06:05 |
|
cait |
mostly the borrowernumber i think |
| 06:05 |
|
cait |
but depends on the log you look at |
| 06:05 |
|
* dcook |
can't quite remember, but certainly variable |
| 06:05 |
|
dcook |
eythian: That's what I'm saying :p |
| 06:05 |
|
mtj |
aah, of course! |
| 06:06 |
|
mtj |
yep, its the borrowernumber :) thanks cait++ |
| 06:06 |
|
dcook |
Ho hum... |
| 06:08 |
|
dcook |
Now comes the fun of updating the master code and the backport... |
| 06:12 |
|
dcook |
Interestingly, LibrariesAustralia actually supports a lot of attributes it doesn't officially publish... |
| 06:13 |
|
cait |
outdated documentation? :) |
| 06:14 |
|
dcook |
I guess so. They fooled me with their modern(ish) minimalist design, but I don't see any dates anywhere...probably is super old documentation |
| 06:14 |
|
dcook |
Or the documenter and the tech people don't talk |
| 06:15 |
|
cait |
not unusual |
| 06:19 |
|
dcook |
Bib-1 attributes sorted :) |
| 06:19 |
|
dcook |
Mostly |
| 06:19 |
|
* cait |
wishes jcamins was awake |
| 06:19 |
|
dcook |
Library of Congress, your authorities are mine |
| 06:20 |
|
dcook |
It's only 2am there... |
| 06:21 |
|
cait |
hm interesting |
| 06:21 |
|
wahanui |
interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 06:21 |
|
cait |
correct wahanui |
| 06:44 |
|
cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 06:44 |
|
huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.3°C (8:40 AM CEST on May 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:44 |
|
cait |
hm |
| 06:44 |
|
dcook |
@wunder Sydney, Australia |
| 06:44 |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (4:30 PM EST on May 08, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:44 |
|
dcook |
I swear the air conditioning must be on...it does not feel that warm... |
| 06:46 |
|
cait |
hm 34 bugs waiting for sign off |
| 06:46 |
|
cait |
... |
| 06:46 |
|
cait |
*hint* |
| 06:46 |
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* cait |
leaves :) |
| 06:47 |
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| 06:48 |
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dcook |
lol |
| 06:48 |
|
dcook |
hey drojf |
| 06:48 |
|
drojf |
hi dcook |
| 06:48 |
|
drojf |
and good morning #koha |
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| 07:07 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, apparently the Library of Congress keeps its title authorities in the Name authority file... |
| 07:08 |
|
dcook |
Or...both...the Name and Subject authority file O_o |
| 07:08 |
|
dcook |
I guess you could search both if you want one.. |
| 07:26 |
|
* magnuse |
waves |
| 07:26 |
|
dcook |
hey ya magnuse :) |
| 07:31 |
|
magnuse |
hiya dcook |
| 07:32 |
|
dcook |
Good day so far? |
| 07:35 |
|
magnuse |
apart from oversleeping, yeah... |
| 07:36 |
|
magnuse |
so, it's just getting started, too hard to tell |
| 07:36 |
|
magnuse |
the weather looks promising though |
| 07:36 |
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| 07:39 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #111 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 07:40 |
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| 07:40 |
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huginn |
GERMS!!!! |
| 07:40 |
|
wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 07:40 |
|
kf |
morning |
| 07:42 |
|
magnuse |
guten morgen kf |
| 07:43 |
|
dcook |
wb kf |
| 07:47 |
|
magnuse |
dcook: how was your day? would be interesting to hear from someone who has already lived through most of it ;-) |
| 07:49 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 07:50 |
|
dcook |
Not too bad |
| 07:50 |
|
dcook |
Posted the z39.50 authority searching feature, backported it to our localised 3.8.x systems, updated the master version after encountering a few issues, and then just some generic support. |
| 07:50 |
|
dcook |
My new computer also arrived this morning ^_^ |
| 07:51 |
|
dcook |
It's just a cheap Intel box but it has a fresh HDD just waiting for Debian and Koha... |
| 07:51 |
|
dcook |
Heading off in a few minutes to go to a farewell to a French friend of mine who is heading back home in a few days |
| 07:52 |
|
magnuse |
ah, that doesn't sound too bad! |
| 07:54 |
|
dcook |
Not too bad at all :) |
| 07:54 |
|
* magnuse |
wonders if a patch for Bug 10134 could still make it into 3.12 |
| 07:54 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10134 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , set XSLT usage ON as default, for new Koha installs |
| 07:55 |
|
dcook |
For some reason, I thought it was already the default. Hmm.. |
| 07:57 |
|
magnuse |
don't think so |
| 07:58 |
|
dcook |
Hmm. I guess you never know unless you try ;) |
| 08:01 |
|
magnuse |
good point |
| 08:01 |
|
magnuse |
:-) |
| 08:01 |
|
magnuse |
mtj around? |
| 08:03 |
|
mtj |
hey magnuse |
| 08:03 |
|
wahanui |
it has been said that magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 08:03 |
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mtj |
wazzup? |
| 08:03 |
|
magnuse |
kia ora mtj |
| 08:03 |
|
magnuse |
do you have a patch coming for bug 10134? |
| 08:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10134 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , set XSLT usage ON as default, for new Koha installs |
| 08:04 |
|
mtj |
hmmm, no - not yet. its just a placeholder.. :/ |
| 08:04 |
|
mtj |
so i dont forget |
| 08:04 |
|
magnuse |
ah, ok, mind if i do one? |
| 08:04 |
|
mtj |
lol, nope! :D |
| 08:04 |
|
magnuse |
yay! :-) |
| 08:05 |
|
mtj |
i'll sign it off |
| 08:05 |
|
mtj |
then we give cait cookies to QA it |
| 08:06 |
|
kf |
i would give lots of cookies to the person looking at the sip and packaging patches... |
| 08:06 |
|
kf |
qa and sign off |
| 08:06 |
|
kf |
and now off for a meeting :) |
| 08:09 |
|
mtj |
i tried to qa a sip patch recently, but couldnt get a working sipserver :/ |
| 08:11 |
|
dcook |
I'd like to know more about using sip but...not really a priority at the moment :/ |
| 08:11 |
|
dcook |
On the other hand, anyone looking for an easy sign off...bug 10156 |
| 08:11 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10156 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl |
| 08:11 |
|
dcook |
It's literally one line of code |
| 08:13 |
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magnuse |
dcook: i can give it a shot |
| 08:13 |
|
dcook |
Cool. Thanks, magnuse :) |
| 08:17 |
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| 08:19 |
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magnuse |
weirdness. could someone please visit http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]pl?biblionumber=2 and tell me if you get an error or not? |
| 08:19 |
|
dcook |
sure |
| 08:19 |
|
dcook |
Yep |
| 08:19 |
|
dcook |
Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /home/magnus/kohahead/opac/opac-detail.pl line 445. |
| 08:19 |
|
magnuse |
then try http://head.bibkat.no/ |
| 08:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #111: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/111/ |
| 08:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Stefano Bargioni: Bug 10093 - Typo in marc21_leader.tt |
| 08:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Kristina D.C. Hoeppner: Bug 2046 - Suggestions: Title Field too small |
| 08:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bumping database version number |
| 08:21 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10093 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bargioni, Pushed to Stable , Typo in marc21_leader.tt |
| 08:21 |
|
dcook |
No error, but the HTML/CSS seems a bit off |
| 08:21 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2046 normal, P3, ---, kristina, Pushed to Stable , Suggestions: Title Field too small |
| 08:22 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #310 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 08:22 |
|
dcook |
The opacnav is bleeding over into the mainuserblock |
| 08:22 |
|
magnuse |
dcook: yeah, but you can see the front page? |
| 08:22 |
|
dcook |
Yep. No errors. It works. |
| 08:22 |
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magnuse |
ah, you already said, thanks |
| 08:23 |
|
magnuse |
then try the first link again, please? |
| 08:23 |
|
dcook |
Works now :) |
| 08:24 |
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* dcook |
needs a bug testing day... |
| 08:24 |
|
magnuse |
i did not change anything in between - it seems to give the error when you go directly to a record, but if you visit the front page first it's ok |
| 08:24 |
|
dcook |
Ahh, interesting |
| 08:25 |
|
dcook |
Some global variable being set by the front page I assume |
| 08:25 |
|
dcook |
Maybe |
| 08:25 |
|
dcook |
What's at line 445? |
| 08:25 |
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magnuse |
my $branch = C4::Context->userenv->{branch}; |
| 08:26 |
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magnuse |
i can reproduce it on my dev install |
| 08:26 |
|
magnuse |
both of these are current master |
| 08:26 |
|
magnuse |
huston, we have a problem... |
| 08:27 |
|
rangi |
there was a bug for that |
| 08:28 |
|
magnuse |
oh? |
| 08:28 |
|
rangi |
yeah i cant recall which one it was |
| 08:28 |
|
rangi |
can you check it on 3.12.x ? |
| 08:29 |
|
magnuse |
sure |
| 08:29 |
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drojf |
@quote 123 |
| 08:29 |
|
wahanui |
@quote get 123 |
| 08:29 |
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huginn |
drojf: downloading the Perl source |
| 08:29 |
|
huginn |
wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 08:29 |
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wahanui |
...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... |
| 08:29 |
|
rangi |
but yeah its bug 7740 |
| 08:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7740 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Highlight items in own library in search results/detail page in OPAC |
| 08:29 |
|
magnuse |
rangi: same thing there: http://demo.test312.bibkat.no/[…]pl?biblionumber=1 |
| 08:29 |
|
rangi |
that beaks it |
| 08:30 |
|
dcook |
Mmm |
| 08:30 |
|
rangi |
breaks it |
| 08:30 |
|
* dcook |
wishes folks luck |
| 08:30 |
|
dcook |
I'm out for the night. See you all tomorrow :) |
| 08:30 |
|
rangi |
oh its quite simple |
| 08:30 |
|
rangi |
C4::Context->userenv->{branch}; |
| 08:31 |
|
rangi |
you dont have a userenv |
| 08:31 |
|
rangi |
if you arent logged in |
| 08:31 |
|
magnuse |
that makes sense :-) |
| 08:31 |
|
rangi |
line 445 needs to be |
| 08:31 |
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magnuse |
but... do you get one by visiting the front page, then? |
| 08:31 |
|
rangi |
if (C4::Context->userenv){ |
| 08:32 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 08:32 |
|
rangi |
starts an anonymous session |
| 08:32 |
|
magnuse |
and that only happens on the front page? |
| 08:32 |
|
rangi |
or search results |
| 08:32 |
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rangi |
doesnt happen on detail page |
| 08:32 |
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rangi |
and it shouldnt |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
cos else google would spawn a zillion sessions |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
but basically we should do |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
my $branch; |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
my $branch = ''; |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
even |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
then |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
if (C4::Context->userenv){ |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
$branch = C4::Context->userenv->{branch}; |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
} |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
and then |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
if ( C4::Context->preference('HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC') ) |
| 08:34 |
|
rangi |
becomes |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
if ( $branch && C4::Context->preference('HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC') ) |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
no point doing that loop if we no idea what the branch is |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
that make sense? |
| 08:35 |
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magnuse |
um, i guess |
| 08:35 |
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magnuse |
there is a test for $branch on line 448, though? |
| 08:37 |
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rangi |
true, only one useless statement executed in that case |
| 08:37 |
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rangi |
just doing the if setting the branch is fine |
| 08:37 |
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magnuse |
because 'HighlightOwnItemsOnOPACWhich' can be 'OpacURLBranch' |
| 08:37 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 08:38 |
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magnuse |
rangi: want to do a patch for that, or do you want me to do it for you? :-) |
| 08:38 |
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rangi |
you can do it :) |
| 08:39 |
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rangi |
actually we should check opac-search.pl |
| 08:39 |
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rangi |
it might need the same fix |
| 08:41 |
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rangi |
why is my firefox phone in germany? |
| 08:42 |
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magnuse |
hm, maybe ask kf? |
| 09:01 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #310: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/310/ |
| 09:01 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Stefano Bargioni: Bug 10093 - Typo in marc21_leader.tt |
| 09:01 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Edmund Balnaves: Bug 8264 - local cover images not working in IE8 [ prog ] |
| 09:01 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10022 - Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page |
| 09:01 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10093 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bargioni, Pushed to Stable , Typo in marc21_leader.tt |
| 09:01 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , local cover images not working in IE8 |
| 09:01 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10022 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page |
| 09:01 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #112 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
| 09:02 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on May 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
that seems wrong |
| 09:02 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 09:02 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 08, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:03 |
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magnuse |
that seems just about right, except the sun is shining :-) |
| 09:03 |
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rangi |
i dont believe its 9, i bet its more like 6 here |
| 09:04 |
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magnuse |
rangi: the best way to ensure userenv is not set (for testing) is to delete the session cookie, right? |
| 09:04 |
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rangi |
think so, yeah |
| 09:05 |
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magnuse |
cool, thanks |
| 09:15 |
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magnuse |
mtj: bug 10134 is ready for testing |
| 09:15 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10134 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , set XSLT usage ON as default, for new Koha installs |
| 09:17 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 09:20 |
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magnuse |
rangi: did you think there already was a bug for the problem with userenv? |
| 09:20 |
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magnuse |
or were you thinking about the bug that caused it? |
| 09:22 |
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magnuse |
there is bug 8198 |
| 09:22 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8198 normal, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, NEW , Need to track the call to "C4::Context->userenv->{'xxxx'} without check if it is undefined |
| 09:29 |
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rangi |
ah yeah thats related |
| 09:31 |
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magnuse |
i think i'll make a new bug and link it to that |
| 09:35 |
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magnuse |
also related to Bug 9980, i guess |
| 09:35 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken |
| 09:36 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that is the same fix for opac-search.pl |
| 09:37 |
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rangi |
that was the one i was remembering |
| 09:37 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that makes sense |
| 09:43 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #112: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/112/ |
| 09:43 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Edmund Balnaves: Bug 8264 - local cover images not working in IE8 [ prog ] |
| 09:44 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10153 - Patron header search form is too wide |
| 09:44 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10152: Default sorting wrong in parcels.pl |
| 09:44 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10022 - Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page |
| 09:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , local cover images not working in IE8 |
| 09:44 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10153 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Patron header search form is too wide |
| 09:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10152 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Default sorting wrong in parcels.pl |
| 09:44 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10022 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page |
| 09:45 |
|
magnuse |
success \o/ |
| 10:08 |
|
magnuse |
bug 10217 is ready for testing |
| 10:08 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10217 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make sure direct links to detail views work when there is no session |
| 10:10 |
|
kf |
magnuse: cool you fixed that :) a coworker of mine was experiencing it |
| 10:11 |
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kf |
i wonder why it only happened for her |
| 10:11 |
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kf |
she gets logged out of koha a lot -and we were not able to figure out what#s wrong (must be browser settings?) |
| 10:12 |
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magnuse |
i have that happening for one customer too - for her it seems to happen when she is editing sysprefs |
| 10:12 |
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kf |
hm more general here I am afraid |
| 10:12 |
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magnuse |
hm |
| 10:36 |
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| 11:11 |
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magnuse |
moin drojf & khall |
| 11:11 |
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khall |
good day magnuse! |
| 11:11 |
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khall |
and kf! |
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| 11:22 |
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kf |
hi khall |
| 11:22 |
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kf |
:) |
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| 12:03 |
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jcamins |
kf: why's that? |
| 12:04 |
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kf |
why's what? |
| 12:06 |
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jcamins |
Why did you wish I was awake? |
| 12:06 |
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| 12:07 |
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jcamins |
Hey, didn't I push a fix for 10217? |
| 12:07 |
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kf |
bug 10127 |
| 12:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10127 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Needs Signoff , Printoverdues.sh should tar only pdf files |
| 12:08 |
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kf |
hm i don't remember |
| 12:08 |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
| 12:08 |
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kf |
hi oleonard |
| 12:09 |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
| 12:09 |
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jcamins |
bug 10217 |
| 12:09 |
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wahanui |
i think bug 10217 is ready for testing |
| 12:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10217 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make sure direct links to detail views work when there is no session |
| 12:09 |
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jcamins |
Sorry, wrong bug numbe. |
| 12:09 |
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jcamins |
*number |
| 12:09 |
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kf |
hm same - don't remember, but I am not you :) |
| 12:11 |
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jcamins |
Ohhh. |
| 12:11 |
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jcamins |
Bug 9980. |
| 12:11 |
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wahanui |
bug 9980 is signed off |
| 12:11 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken |
| 12:11 |
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jcamins |
I thought I remembered getting very tetchy and throwing a hissy fit. :) |
| 12:12 |
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kf |
jcamins: that's not really a helpful clue to remember... |
| 12:12 |
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kf |
you do that often :P |
| 12:13 |
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* kf |
better hides somewhere |
| 12:13 |
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jcamins |
kf: yeah, but that is actually a very good clue: if I remember getting tetchy and throwing a hissy fit, it's probably an accurate memory. :P |
| 12:14 |
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kf |
heh |
| 12:24 |
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oleonard |
What is this message about? http://www.mail-archive.com/ko[…].nz/msg07714.html |
| 12:25 |
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jcamins |
Removing articles from searches using javascript. |
| 12:26 |
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jcamins |
No poetry journal for you! |
| 12:26 |
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oleonard |
Why? |
| 12:27 |
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jcamins |
Because there are poetry journals with names like "a" and "the." |
| 12:30 |
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kf |
wasn't there a band too? the the or something? |
| 12:31 |
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jcamins |
kf: yeah, true. |
| 12:36 |
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| 12:37 |
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oleonard |
But why does someone need to remove articles from searches using javascript? |
| 12:38 |
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kf |
oleonard: because someone was taught that stopwords are a feature |
| 12:38 |
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kf |
while they were only an ugly band aid for ILS that couldn't deal with big result lists. |
| 12:39 |
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kf |
or databases in general I think |
| 12:39 |
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kf |
at least I don't think they have a real use in searches - but might be wrong. |
| 12:39 |
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jcamins |
No, no use in searches. |
| 12:39 |
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jcamins |
Sorting, yes, searching, no. |
| 12:40 |
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kf |
agreed |
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| 12:42 |
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kf |
hi Dyrcona |
| 12:42 |
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Dyrcona |
Hello! |
| 12:46 |
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magnuse |
jcamins: 9980 was for opac-search.pl, 10217 is for opac-detail.pl |
| 12:46 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: yup. |
| 12:47 |
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jcamins |
I know they're both necessary, I just thought it was familiar. |
| 12:47 |
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magnuse |
ah cool |
| 12:49 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Under what circumstances is the jstree plugin used on opac-authoritiesdetail.pl? The template says IF displayhierarchy? |
| 12:51 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: if you have AuthDisplayHierarchy turned on, and links in the broader/narrower fields. |
| 12:52 |
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oleonard |
Thanks |
| 12:54 |
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oleonard |
You can tell I'm getting towards the end of the list of OPAC templates to Bootstrap if I'm working on the authorities-related ones :P |
| 12:54 |
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jcamins |
Hehehe. |
| 12:54 |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
| 12:55 |
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| 12:55 |
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magnuse |
oleonard++ |
| 12:57 |
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druthb |
oleonard++ |
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| 13:18 |
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magnuse |
brace youselves for the fun, folks! http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 13:19 |
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kf |
magnuse++ |
| 13:19 |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
| 13:20 |
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oleonard |
I ⤠GBSD |
| 13:21 |
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kf |
and remember - we still got some nice things in bugzila that could go into 3.12!! |
| 13:24 |
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magnuse |
kf: maybe you could point them out somewhere? |
| 13:25 |
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magnuse |
email sent to the lists, btw |
| 13:25 |
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kf |
it's easy |
| 13:25 |
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kf |
everything that is a bug |
| 13:25 |
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kf |
and doesn't touch strings |
| 13:25 |
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kf |
but i will try to point it out if our RM doesn't beat me to it |
| 13:25 |
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kf |
;) |
| 13:25 |
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drojf |
w00t! global pizza day |
| 13:25 |
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drojf |
oh, and that bug thing |
| 13:25 |
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kf |
lol |
| 13:26 |
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jcamins |
The RM will not beat you to it. |
| 13:26 |
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jcamins |
The RM will take whatever bugfixes are written, signed off, and QAed, but is not going to be looking at Bugzilla again. |
| 13:26 |
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jcamins |
I have release notes to write, and actual real work to do. |
| 13:28 |
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kf |
jcamins: i thought you woudl say that |
| 13:28 |
|
* kf |
offers you cookies |
| 13:28 |
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kf |
i will try to write up an email tomorrow |
| 13:29 |
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kf |
... and i offered to help with release notes writing :) |
| 13:30 |
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drojf |
for 3.14 i'd like a release picture to be drawn |
| 13:30 |
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drojf |
instead of notes |
| 13:31 |
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jcamins |
drojf: I'd draw a release picture for 3.12, but I think it might offend people. |
| 13:31 |
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drojf |
not volunteering for the position of release picture manager though |
| 13:31 |
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drojf |
jcamins: worth a try :D |
| 13:34 |
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magnuse |
@arewethereyet |
| 13:34 |
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huginn |
magnuse: YES! |
| 13:34 |
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magnuse |
oops :-) |
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| 13:53 |
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jcamins |
Anyone know what SocialData is? |
| 13:53 |
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oleonard |
I'm pretty sure it's a Babeltheque thing |
| 13:53 |
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jcamins |
Something to do with Babeltheque, I guess. |
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kf |
yeah i think so too |
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| 14:04 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Bug 10201 doesn't make the cut for 3.12? |
| 14:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10201 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Old OPAC patron update system should be removed |
| 14:06 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: it looked like more than just the URL changed in opac-user.tt. |
| 14:06 |
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jcamins |
If I'm misreading, it's a candidate. |
| 14:06 |
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oleonard |
There shouldn't be any other changes besides the URL. I think it's an important bug fix. |
| 14:07 |
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jcamins |
But I'm seeing it changing a note about a delay in updates to a note about an up-to-date address. |
| 14:07 |
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jcamins |
Wait, never mind. |
| 14:07 |
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jcamins |
I misread it. |
| 14:07 |
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jcamins |
The lines are way too long. |
| 14:07 |
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jcamins |
(not something that should've been changed in the patch, just an observation) |
| 14:08 |
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jcamins |
So, yeah, that'll go into 3.12. |
| 14:09 |
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jcamins |
But not right now, since I have to head into the city. |
| 14:09 |
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oleonard |
Thanks |
| 14:10 |
|
* oleonard |
just used up one of his "urge the RM to include his patch" tokens... not sure how many we get... |
| 14:10 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9681' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]25bc79cdb7c45989c> / Bug 9681: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bfb8c6ef67f97eb68> / Bug 9681: Add some indexes in database <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2737c41a225cd697b |
| 14:12 |
|
druthb |
you get more than most others, I imagine, oleonard. The Do-ers win. |
| 14:15 |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 14:15 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010) |
| 14:18 |
|
tcohen |
hey, that wasn't from pianohacker |
| 14:23 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #26 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:28 |
|
oleonard |
We let patrons sign up for subscription alerts but we don't let them unsubscribe :| |
| 14:30 |
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drojf |
oleonard: like the real spammers :) |
| 14:31 |
|
* druthb |
offers drojf a cookie. |
| 14:32 |
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drojf |
druthb: thanks! how do i deserve this? |
| 14:33 |
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drojf |
can't send myself a zip file, university mail scanner complaining about an exe file inside. can send me a tar.gz of the same thing though. it's all about security and stuff :D |
| 14:34 |
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oleonard |
drojf: Does the contents of your zip file contain the letters e-x-e ? :) |
| 14:34 |
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druthb |
I'm just a nice girl like that, drojf. |
| 14:37 |
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drojf |
druthb: i remember you as the girl with the pointy stick, that is why i am a little cautious ;) |
| 14:38 |
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drojf |
oleonard: it's a real exe file! i'm doing fieldwork recordings archeology. with files from ~25 years ago |
| 14:38 |
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druthb |
Even numbered day, drojf. |
| 14:38 |
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drojf |
druthb: lol |
| 14:38 |
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oleonard |
Well there you go drojf. Bad guy caught! |
| 14:39 |
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drojf |
oleonard: but not caught with the powers of tar.gz |
| 14:39 |
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drojf |
it's an evil encryption thing apparently :P |
| 14:39 |
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oleonard |
I hear they used that in The Matrix to avoid the machines. |
| 14:41 |
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oleonard |
Interesting how many bugs one finds when one simply goes through the OPAC trying everything. |
| 14:42 |
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drojf |
that is not really good, is it? |
| 14:46 |
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oleonard |
It's not great. |
| 14:48 |
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oleonard |
Hey, look, it's Bug 9773! |
| 14:48 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery |
| 14:49 |
|
maximep |
we really need selenium tests that click everywhere on the opac with different settings enabled |
| 14:49 |
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maximep |
that would actually be fun to do |
| 14:50 |
|
* drojf |
heads home |
| 14:50 |
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oleonard |
I thought I remembered someone trying selenium with Koha |
| 14:50 |
|
maximep |
yes |
| 14:51 |
|
maximep |
well, I did |
| 14:51 |
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maximep |
but there was a blog post from.... |
| 14:51 |
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maximep |
arg |
| 14:52 |
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maximep |
http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]using-it-in-koha/ |
| 14:52 |
|
maximep |
good stuff |
| 14:53 |
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maximep |
I dont remember if I actually sent patches with selenium tests |
| 15:02 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #26: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/26/ |
| 15:02 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9961: Add truncation support to QP driver |
| 15:02 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10204 - Patron image no longer appears in the OPAC |
| 15:02 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 8278 - Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 15:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9961 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Truncation and QueryAutoTruncate not working properly with new QueryParser |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 8278 : Follow up, fixing the permissions on cataloguing/ysearch.pl |
| 15:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 8278 [Follow-up] Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 15:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 8278: build the structure with to_json instead of manually. |
| 15:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 10156 - Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl |
| 15:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Fix update 3.09.00.025 |
| 15:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10204 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron image no longer appears in the OPAC |
| 15:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 15:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Add missing columns in update 3.09.00.025 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 9681: Add some indexes in database |
| 15:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10156 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl |
| 15:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9681: Increment version number |
| 15:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10185 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , updatedatabase.pl remove all reserves |
| 15:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9681 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Add some indexes in database |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1165 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 15:06 |
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ghoulmann |
question: scoping koha out for eval for our school with debian from apt. on port 8080, admin site is working beautifully. however, opac on port 80 only works from the localhost. any suggestions? |
| 15:08 |
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ghoulmann |
http://paste.debian.net/2921/ |
| 15:16 |
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oleonard |
Sorry ghoulmann there don't seem to be any Apache experts around at the moment |
| 15:18 |
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ghoulmann |
ok, thanks anyway. |
| 15:19 |
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jcamins |
Success? Uh-oh. |
| 15:19 |
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jcamins |
I think that means I broke something. |
| 15:20 |
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jcamins |
ghoulmann: what do you see from remote? |
| 15:20 |
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jcamins |
"It works"? |
| 15:20 |
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ghoulmann |
yes |
| 15:20 |
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ghoulmann |
i think one sec |
| 15:20 |
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ghoulmann |
yes |
| 15:21 |
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ghoulmann |
i did a2dissite 000-default, however. still, "it works" |
| 15:21 |
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jcamins |
And you restarted Apache? |
| 15:21 |
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jcamins |
What does `sudo apache2ctl -S` tell you? |
| 15:21 |
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jcamins |
(use paste.koha-community.org) |
| 15:23 |
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tcohen |
sudo service apache2 reload |
| 15:23 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: -S will tell you what sites are listening on which ports. |
| 15:23 |
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jcamins |
Very useful. |
| 15:23 |
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tcohen |
oh, didn't know it |
| 15:24 |
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tcohen |
oh, its great, it also says which vhost is considered the default |
| 15:24 |
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oleonard |
"(/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:6)" What does the ":6" mean? |
| 15:25 |
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jcamins |
Line 6. |
| 15:25 |
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ghoulmann |
http://paste.koha-community.org/10 i think is mine. |
| 15:25 |
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ghoulmann |
i have a new result: $ipaddr/chelsea now brings up a koha 404 |
| 15:25 |
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jcamins |
And $ipaddr brings up "It works"? |
| 15:26 |
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ghoulmann |
correct |
| 15:26 |
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jcamins |
Odd. |
| 15:27 |
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tcohen |
I guess apache2ctl -S tells what the config says |
| 15:27 |
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tcohen |
not what the current running process knows |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
Oh, good point. |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
ghoulmann: restart Apache with `sudo service apache2 restart`? |
| 15:31 |
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tcohen |
jcamins, what do u think the expected behaviour of koha-create should be if there is already a koha-conf.xml file for the instance? |
| 15:31 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: warn, and don't do anything. |
| 15:33 |
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ghoulmann |
ok |
| 15:35 |
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ghoulmann |
jcamis: same. sorry for the delay |
| 15:37 |
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ghoulmann |
this works: http://$ipaddr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl |
| 15:37 |
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jcamins |
That is correct. |
| 15:37 |
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jcamins |
The problem is that your redirects are wrong. |
| 15:38 |
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jcamins |
Fortunately, that's easy to fix. |
| 15:38 |
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jcamins |
But I can't due to my connection. |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
I don't know if you'll see this message, but try enabling mod_rewrite. |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
Or removing any customizations you added. |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
I think those messages went through. |
| 15:40 |
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jcamins |
So, `sudo a2enmod rewrite && sudo service apache2 restart` |
| 15:47 |
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tcohen |
the create / request+populate / use use cases are flawed |
| 15:48 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: oh? |
| 15:49 |
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tcohen |
i just don't like the workflows they reflect |
| 15:49 |
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jcamins |
I use create and use. |
| 15:49 |
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ghoulmann |
rewrite is enabled and service restarted. |
| 15:50 |
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tcohen |
what do u think the difference between create and use is? |
| 15:50 |
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tcohen |
what i read the cod eis that use only doesn't populate the db |
| 15:50 |
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tcohen |
(but creates all the stuff) |
| 15:50 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: use allows me to use an existing database without any errors. |
| 15:51 |
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tcohen |
what koha branch? |
| 15:51 |
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jcamins |
What do you mean? |
| 15:52 |
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tcohen |
are you using it in 3.10 ? im'm trying to establish if I broke it |
| 15:52 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 15:52 |
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jcamins |
No. |
| 15:52 |
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jcamins |
3.6.x. |
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| 15:53 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 15:54 |
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jcamins |
I haven't tried it on 3.10.x in a while. |
| 15:54 |
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jcamins |
What does it not do right? |
| 15:54 |
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tcohen |
i expected that there was a way to avoid the DB user creation |
| 15:54 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 15:54 |
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jcamins |
No. |
| 15:55 |
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tcohen |
is it a bug? |
| 15:56 |
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jcamins |
I don't know. |
| 15:56 |
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jcamins |
It has never bothered me. |
| 15:57 |
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tcohen |
that's because you have admin access to the DB server I guess |
| 15:58 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 15:58 |
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jcamins |
I'd use populate db if I didn't. |
| 15:58 |
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jcamins |
But I do. :) |
| 15:58 |
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jcamins |
Or request db, rather. |
| 15:58 |
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tcohen |
request+populate, right |
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druthb |
Happy birthday, melia! |
| 16:05 |
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melia |
thanks druthb! :) |
| 16:05 |
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* mtompset |
whistles, "Happy Birthday to you..." |
| 16:06 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, jcamins tcohen druthb melia. :) |
| 16:06 |
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druthb |
Hi, mtompset. |
| 16:07 |
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tcohen |
hi mtompset |
| 16:07 |
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druthb |
Hi, mtompset. :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, drojf. |
| 16:16 |
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drojf |
hi mtompset |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1165: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1165/ |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9961: Add truncation support to QP driver |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10204 - Patron image no longer appears in the OPAC |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 8278 - Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 8278 : Follow up, fixing the permissions on cataloguing/ysearch.pl |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 8278 [Follow-up] Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 16:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9961 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Truncation and QueryAutoTruncate not working properly with new QueryParser |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 8278: build the structure with to_json instead of manually. |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 10156 - Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl |
| 16:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10204 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron image no longer appears in the OPAC |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Fix update 3.09.00.025 |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Add missing columns in update 3.09.00.025 |
| 16:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 9681: Add some indexes in database |
| 16:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 16:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10156 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl |
| 16:16 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9681: Increment version number |
| 16:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10185 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , updatedatabase.pl remove all reserves |
| 16:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9681 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Add some indexes in database |
| 18:04 |
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oleonard |
Is there any reason why we have the css directory inside the language directory? |
| 18:04 |
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| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: we haven't moved it yet, I think. |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
I mean, that's the only reason. |
| 18:07 |
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* oleonard |
adds that to his Bootstrap OPAC branch |
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| 19:03 |
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oleonard |
Whoa, did you guys see Bug 9773? It looks like so much fun to test! |
| 19:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery |
| 19:04 |
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mtompset |
I thought AJAX and JQuery were synonomous. What's the difference? |
| 19:05 |
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jcamins |
AJAX = a technology and jQuery = a library. |
| 19:05 |
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jcamins |
Completely different. |
| 19:05 |
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oleonard |
jQuery can help you do AJAX |
| 19:05 |
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oleonard |
But you can do AJAX without jQuery |
| 19:05 |
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jcamins |
We use jQuery for AJAX, but that's just a matter of style. |
| 19:05 |
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mtompset |
Right. |
| 19:06 |
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mtompset |
Ah, so this bug is to reduce dependency on YUI? |
| 19:06 |
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oleonard |
Yes |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
And, of course, AJAX can be done without jQuery or YUI, it's just more convenient to use a library. |
| 19:08 |
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mtompset |
Is the goal to toss YUI to the curb? ;) |
| 19:10 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 19:16 |
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* oleonard |
has too many irons in the fire. |
| 19:21 |
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oleonard |
Evidence: "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 1 and 1085 different commits each, respectively." |
| 19:21 |
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jcamins |
Ouch. |
| 19:23 |
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mtompset |
That reminds me of a question I had. |
| 19:23 |
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mtompset |
Let's say I have this patch I'm working on. |
| 19:23 |
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mtompset |
And master keeps moving on me. |
| 19:23 |
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mtompset |
And I'm forced to commit each time as I merge. |
| 19:24 |
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jcamins |
Most likely you should be rebasing not merging. |
| 19:24 |
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jcamins |
But go on. |
| 19:24 |
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mtompset |
What happens to the patch when I finally finish and git commit -a the last time? |
| 19:25 |
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mtompset |
Will all my past commits be listed in that patch? |
| 19:25 |
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jcamins |
No. |
| 19:25 |
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jcamins |
git commit -a changes the last patch. |
| 19:25 |
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mtompset |
-a is all, not amend. |
| 19:25 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 19:26 |
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jcamins |
Sorry. |
| 19:26 |
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jcamins |
No, of course it doesn't list previous commits. |
| 19:26 |
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mtompset |
because my commits consisted of 'blah' and 'arg' and stuff like that for the messages. :) |
| 19:26 |
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jcamins |
It will indicate where the tree was when it was written, but it doesn't list commits. |
| 19:27 |
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jcamins |
You'll need to squash those. Each time you commit, you're doing a new commit. |
| 19:27 |
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jcamins |
(based on what you've told us) |
| 19:28 |
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mtompset |
So what's the best way to get it to a cleaner nice state? |
| 19:28 |
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jcamins |
Use rebase rather than merge, and at the end do an interactive rebase and squash all the patches. |
| 19:29 |
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mtompset |
so okay... scenario: I have made a change in my files, master has just updated AGAIN... |
| 19:29 |
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mtompset |
git rebase? |
| 19:29 |
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mtompset |
because when I said merge, I was talking about "git pull" (which does the merge step too) |
| 19:30 |
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jcamins |
git rebase origin/master |
| 19:30 |
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jcamins |
If you merge in between, you're going to end up with a gazillion merge conflicts. |
| 19:31 |
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mtompset |
which I have fixed with each git pull. |
| 19:31 |
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mtompset |
It hasn't been too bad, but I could see it getting worse. |
| 19:32 |
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jcamins |
Actually, I have bad news... if you've been doing a git pull, you've almost certainly been correcting the conflicts on the wrong patches. |
| 19:32 |
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mtompset |
but git diff displays the changes I have done. |
| 19:32 |
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jcamins |
Changing things in master rather than in your patch set. |
| 19:33 |
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mtompset |
but it says my branch is "9" commits ahead. |
| 19:35 |
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mtompset |
So, I don't understand your bad news. |
| 19:38 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 19:39 |
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jcamins |
It's possible I had you change it to use rebase rather than merge. |
| 19:39 |
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mtompset |
I think I tried to rebase once. |
| 19:39 |
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mtompset |
And after a whole bunch of confusion, I did a hard reset. |
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| 19:44 |
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oleonard |
Sorry jcamins, I give up on Bug 8661. |
| 19:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8661 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , break out additional authors in opac like in staff |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: okay. |
| 19:45 |
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mtompset |
okay... so I stored the git diff in a mega.patch file. Then, I just checked out my solely base on master branch. git pull, git reset hard, git pull (just to know for sure). created new branch based on origin/master, and then patch -p1 < mega.patch -- that should be good enough, right? :) |
| 19:45 |
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mtompset |
Don't cringe too much. :) |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I have no idea. |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
I can't even follow what you did. |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
But I highly recommend reading oleonard's blog post about git branches. |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
And how to use them. |
| 19:47 |
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mtompset |
URL? |
| 19:47 |
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wahanui |
well, URL is horrid :) |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
I'd say you might as well continue what you're doing, and if the patch doesn't apply for anyone else when it's ready to submit you'll have to rebase. |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
No idea. |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
oleonard's blog? |
| 19:47 |
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wahanui |
oleonard's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
^^ somewhere in there |
| 19:47 |
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oleonard |
http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558 |
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| 19:48 |
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oleonard |
I ought to do a revised version which incorporates git-bz. |
| 19:48 |
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jcamins |
oleonard++ |
| 19:49 |
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mtompset |
http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558 |
| 19:49 |
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mtompset |
Yes, that is a 2010 post. |
| 19:50 |
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oleonard |
The information isn't out of date, but I have improved my git workflow since then (with much help from everyone here) |
| 19:51 |
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mtompset |
By the way, thanks for telling me about the koha-deps and koha-perldeps, folks. That most definitely deals with the 64-bit OS installing 32-bit libraries issue as had by the older dselect instructions. |
| 19:51 |
|
rangi |
speaking of flow |
| 19:52 |
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rangi |
http://nvie.com/posts/a-succes[…]-branching-model/ |
| 19:52 |
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rangi |
https://github.com/nvie/gitflow |
| 19:52 |
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rangi |
i havent tried it, but it looks promising |
| 19:53 |
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oleonard |
Don't follow that link mtompset! It will not help your confusion :) |
| 19:53 |
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mtompset |
pretty picture, but what colour am I? what colour is origin/master? ;) |
| 19:53 |
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mtompset |
Yes, I noticed, oleonard. :) |
| 19:55 |
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oleonard |
And hi rangi :) |
| 19:58 |
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oleonard |
That is so not awesome that we broke the detail page for users without sessions. |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
we broke the search page too |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
but thats fixed already |
| 19:58 |
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tcohen |
rangi: is it for a single person usage,e right? a local git? |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
if you read the logs oleonard you can seel the whole sorry tale |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
tcohen: yes and no, everything is for local with git |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
but yeah that would be how you would manage your clone |
| 19:59 |
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tcohen |
right |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
how you upstream code, can still be done in any way you want |
| 20:00 |
|
rangi |
what i use a lot |
| 20:00 |
|
rangi |
is git wtf |
| 20:00 |
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wahanui |
well, git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 20:00 |
|
rangi |
check it out |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins |
git wtf? |
| 20:00 |
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wahanui |
i heard git was http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins |
Huh. |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins |
Interesting. |
| 20:00 |
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wahanui |
somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 20:01 |
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rangi |
http://git-wt-commit.rubyforge.org/ |
| 20:02 |
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tcohen |
looks awesome rangi |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
it's quite handy |
| 20:04 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Did you ever re-test Bug 8952 following Marcel's last comment? |
| 20:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Failed QA , Add http:// to url in social media links on opac-detail |
| 20:04 |
|
pastebot |
"rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "git wtf Local branch: master [" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/11 |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
I did not. |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
I didn't notice it. |
| 20:06 |
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mtompset |
are you guys talking about bug 10217? |
| 20:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10217 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make sure direct links to detail views work when there is no session |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
yep thats the one fixed last night |
| 20:08 |
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rangi |
bug 9980 |
| 20:08 |
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wahanui |
somebody said bug 9980 was signed off |
| 20:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken |
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rangi |
was the other one |
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mtompset |
Though, I was curious why use '' and not q{}? |
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mtompset |
The latter is more perl critic friendly. |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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jcamins |
mtompset: no reason. |
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mtompset |
Are people aware of the perl critic friendliness of q{}? :) |
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jcamins |
Probably not. |
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tcohen |
perl critic sucks |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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druthb |
oy! A drive-by sekjal-ing! |
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rangi |
my phone is now in china |
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tcohen |
didn't it come from china? |
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rangi |
possibly, but it started this journey in the UK |
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rangi |
then it went to germany |
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rangi |
now china |
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tcohen |
heh, a loooong journey! |
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rangi |
tcohen: if you bump into bgkriegel you could tell him I was thinking of scheduling a handover tutorial thing, on irc for whenever you 2 want to learn how i do release maintenance |
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tcohen |
ok rangi, what nz time would u prefer? |
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rangi |
either during a weekday |
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rangi |
or after 8pm nztime in an evening |
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rangi |
what works better for you? |
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tcohen |
after 8pm is too early for us (5am) |
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tcohen |
so i guess by the time you get to work |
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tcohen |
maybe 9am wellington time? (6pm here) |
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rangi |
that sounds good |
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rangi |
how about tuesday .. that would be 6pm monday for you? |
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tcohen |
yes rangi |
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rangi |
cool |
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tcohen |
lemme ask bgkriegel once he's only |
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tcohen |
online |
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rangi |
thanks |
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jcamins |
bag: http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/226551 <-- for when you want to write your book |
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bag |
:) |
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eythian |
@marc 222$a |
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huginn |
eythian: unknown tag 222$a |
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cait |
hey eythian :) |
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eythian |
hiya |
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eythian |
@marc 222 |
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huginn |
eythian: A unique title for a continuing resource that is assigned in conjunction with an ISSN recorded in field 022 by national centers under the auspices of the ISSN Network. (Repeatable) [a,b,6,8] |
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rangi |
woot |
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trea |
eythian++ |
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eythian |
what'd I do? |
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trea |
what don't you do, is a better question |
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eythian |
heh |
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rangi |
http://www.beehive.govt.nz/rel[…]ftware-innovation |
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wizzyrea |
Mr. Foss. |
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wizzyrea |
How appropriate. |
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eythian |
annoyingly, it's generally terribly inappropriate. |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
he's the gomba who put 'as such' back in |
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rangi |
took a lot of pressure to get it taken out (which they finally have) |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose my sarcasm really didn't come through there. |
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* cait |
waves to rangi and wizzyrea |
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mtompset |
failed to mark it with tags or emoticons. :P |
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eythian |
what do you expect if you don't use sarcasm marksØŸ |
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wizzyrea |
kekeke |
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* mtompset |
high fives eythian. :) |
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eythian |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_five#.22Too_slow.22 <-- that reminds me of the best photo series in wikipedia ever |
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trea |
o/ HIGH FIVE \o |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
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mtompset |
In some timezones, dcook. Greetings. :) |
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dcook |
hey ya mtompset |
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eythian |
mtompset: we're in the future, so if it's not the morning there yet, we know that it will be. |
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dcook |
eythian: I had a very satisfying December 31st, 2012 in Canada last year ;) |
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mtompset |
Depends on how fast the blackhole sucks us in. :P |
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wizzyrea |
you've been reading about the large hadron collider again, haven't you |
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mtompset |
Nah, I figure the sun will go blackhole on us before the LHC generates something to kill us. :P |
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* dcook |
thinks the sun has quite enough fuel for thousands (if not millions) of years yet |
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wizzyrea |
hm, my understanding was that the sun would go neutron star, not black hole. It's not big enough to supernove |
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wizzyrea |
supernova. |
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wizzyrea |
but it wouldn't matter anyway, because the earth would have been eaten up by red giant stage :P |
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wizzyrea |
ianaastrophysicist, though. |
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eythian |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S[…]drogen_exhaustion |
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mtompset |
white dwarf, now that I looked. |
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mtompset |
fine fine... we'll get sucked into Sagittarius A. :P |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: to be fair, if we havent sorted out interstellar travel in 5.4 billion years then we deserve whats coming. |
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wizzyrea |
yea I think we'll nuke ourselves first. |
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cjh |
also very possible |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure I like seaweed salad. |
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eythian |
Only cockroaches and Search.pm will survive the nuclear apocalyse. |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add <eythian> Only cockroaches and Search.pm will survive the nuclear apocalypse. |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #247 added. |
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dcook |
jcamins: Fair enough. I'm not sure I'd eat seaweed outside of sushi |
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jcamins |
In fact, I definitely don't like it. |
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dcook |
cjh: Agreed about the interstellar travel. Silly humans. |
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wizzyrea |
is it the rubbery kind? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: a little rubbery, but mostly just... eww. |
