Time Nick Message
00:01 jcamins Hey, cool.
00:01 jcamins LibreOffice has a form mode.
00:01 jcamins Which is actually usable.
00:17 dcook Argh, writing useful commit messages can be hard when there is potentially a lot to say..
00:17 jcamins I generally just say it all.
00:17 jcamins Witness bug 7284.
00:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Authority matching algorithm improvements
00:18 dcook I'm thinking that's best
00:18 dcook Oh wow...nice
00:18 dcook Admittedly, the more information I have to test, the better
00:20 bag welcome back druthb
00:20 bag honestly that's my favorite thing to do in IRC
00:21 dcook O_o
00:21 bag welcome people back when I'm staring at a IRC screen
00:22 druthb lulz
00:35 jcamins Whoah.
00:36 jcamins dcook++
00:38 dcook :)
02:08 thd Does anyone know why there are 7 nights on the KohaCon13 schedule but 8 nights on the default conference hotel reservation?
02:11 bag one day give or take?
02:11 bag one day plus or minus?
02:12 thd bag: I am wondering if I am not taking account of something which the conference planners have in mind.
02:13 dcook Which links are you looking at, thd?
02:13 bag let's see… 3 days of conference. 1 day fun, 3 days hackfest… = 7 nights… maybe they are accounting for international travels and you need a day before or a day after for arrival/leaving ?
02:15 thd bag: Maybe the link was for 9 nights at the conference hotel by default.
02:16 dcook The plan is definitely for me to arrive the day before the conference starts and leave the morning after the last hackfest day
02:16 dcook So that makes sense for the 8 nights of hotel but 7 nights of KohaCon
02:16 bag well that's a good plan dcook
02:16 bag thd: not sure….
02:16 dcook bag: I'll only be coming from Vancouver though, as I'm planning to fly up early ;)
02:16 eythian yeah, a day to recover from travel to out of the way places like that is a good thing to have.
02:17 bag awesome!
02:17 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag
02:17 * dcook reminds himself that backporting is eeeeevil
02:17 dcook jcamins++
02:17 dcook At least, I think it was Jared who put all those lovely AuthoritiesMarc subs in place. Very very useful.
02:18 thd It seems that either I miscounted or the number in the default reservation was changed.
02:20 thd dcook: Why would you consider backporting to be eeeeevil?
02:20 dcook Well, not in and of itself
02:21 dcook I'm just trying to make a backport of the z39.50 authority searching I wrote on master
02:21 dcook It depends on a lot of things introduced in 3.10/3.12
02:21 dcook But I'm doing it for 3.8.0
02:21 dcook It's actually not that bad...
02:21 dcook Pretty messy though
02:21 thd dcook: By eeeeevil do you mean messy?
02:22 dcook By eeeeevil I mean messy, time-consuming, more difficult to maintain, etc
02:23 thd dcook: Perhaps the messiness problem could be addressed with an additional namespace for functions which have changed.
02:28 thd dcook: With a special namespace such as "features3_10-12" , you could add parallel code from 3.10-12 and then change any backported functionality to use only functions from that namespace.
02:28 dcook thd: Yeah, I was just pondering that, and I'm liking this idea :)
02:31 tcohen good night #koha
02:31 dcook night tcohen
02:33 thd dcook: I think the only problem would be watching whether some variable imported from the old code would be expecting to hold different parameters or values for new namespace functions. In such a possible case, you would need to pass variables through a filter for the new namespace which would supply appropriate parameters or values.
02:35 * thd is off to backport some things from Debian experimental.
02:35 dcook hehe
04:32 * dcook waves to cait
04:32 * cait waves back
04:34 eythian hi cait
04:34 cait hi eythian
04:34 eythian it's 6.30 am, what are you doing?
04:34 cait getting ready for work and have breakfast? :)
04:35 cait it's 4:35 pm - what are you doing?
04:36 eythian working, the ususal.
04:42 trea o/
05:08 eythian huh, many of these records have the ':' leading the subtitle rather than trailing the title. That's odd.
05:11 dcook eythian: data migration time?
05:11 eythian yeah
05:12 dcook Always fun times.
05:19 cait :(i still can't get the yui plugin to work
05:20 * dcook thinks this might be because yui is evil
05:20 cait ah right
05:20 cait testing a replacement of yui actually
05:20 dcook :D
05:20 cait bug 8278
05:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
05:20 dcook Do you use UNIMARC or USMARC, cait?
05:20 dcook usually i mean
05:21 eythian dcook: Deutschemarc, of course.
05:22 dcook eythian: Makes sense given the instability of the Euro, eh?
05:22 eythian heh
05:22 dcook :p
05:24 cait i trid unimarc
05:24 cait but here we are using marc21
05:24 dcook Mmm, I thought that might be the case
05:25 * dcook wonders if there is a group of pirates out there who would offer to translate Koha into pirate...
05:25 cait why not klingon?
05:26 dcook Ideologically speaking, I think the pirate and the librarian have a certain amount in common.
05:26 dcook Or maybe I'm confusing pirates and ninjas..
05:26 dcook Klingon could work too!
05:26 cjh cait: in theory we can program koha in klingon http://search.cpan.org/~mschwern/Lingua-tlhInganHol-yIghun-20090601/lib/Lingua/tlhInganHol/yIghun.pm
05:27 cait and there people wonder why somoene would think perl is a bit cryptical...
05:27 cait hah got the plugin working :)
05:28 eythian http://search.cpan.org/~lbrocard/Acme-Buffy-1.6/lib/Acme/Buffy.pm <-- could just use this
05:29 cjh it certainly removes all the unsightly symbols that people complain about
05:33 cait of course
05:33 cait now my qa script is broken....
05:34 cait hm fixed
05:39 dcook "For example, the procedural command:
05:39 dcook Hich DoSmey yIbaH!
05:39 dcook translates as:
05:39 dcook fire($weapon,@targets);"
05:39 dcook hehe
05:40 cait wow :)
06:03 dcook Hmm, Library of Congress and LibrariesAustralia...did you conspire to use different Bib-1 attributes for your z39.50 databases?
06:04 eythian it sounds like you're assuming standards here.
06:04 eythian A fatal mistake
06:04 dcook Well, I could understand maybe not supporting some of those new fangled attributes from 1995
06:04 dcook But some of the basics..
06:05 eythian You're working with a standard from the 70's, 95 is a bit too modern.
06:05 mtj hey all, does anyone know what the 'object' id is, in the viewlog - for circ ?
06:05 cait it varies
06:05 cait mostly the borrowernumber i think
06:05 cait but depends on the log you look at
06:05 * dcook can't quite remember, but certainly variable
06:05 dcook eythian: That's what I'm saying :p
06:05 mtj aah, of course!
06:06 mtj yep, its the borrowernumber :) thanks cait++
06:06 dcook Ho hum...
06:08 dcook Now comes the fun of updating the master code and the backport...
06:12 dcook Interestingly, LibrariesAustralia actually supports a lot of attributes it doesn't officially publish...
06:13 cait outdated documentation? :)
06:14 dcook I guess so. They fooled me with their modern(ish) minimalist design, but I don't see any dates anywhere...probably is super old documentation
06:14 dcook Or the documenter and the tech people don't talk
06:15 cait not unusual
06:19 dcook Bib-1 attributes sorted :)
06:19 dcook Mostly
06:19 * cait wishes jcamins was awake
06:19 dcook Library of Congress, your authorities are mine
06:20 dcook It's only 2am there...
06:21 cait hm interesting
06:21 wahanui interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad
06:21 cait correct wahanui
06:44 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:44 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.3°C (8:40 AM CEST on May 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:44 cait hm
06:44 dcook @wunder Sydney, Australia
06:44 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (4:30 PM EST on May 08, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Rising).
06:44 dcook I swear the air conditioning must be on...it does not feel that warm...
06:46 cait hm 34 bugs waiting for sign off
06:46 cait ...
06:46 cait *hint*
06:46 * cait leaves :)
06:48 dcook lol
06:48 dcook hey drojf
06:48 drojf hi dcook
06:48 drojf and good morning #koha
07:07 dcook Mmm, apparently the Library of Congress keeps its title authorities in the Name authority file...
07:08 dcook Or...both...the Name and Subject authority file O_o
07:08 dcook I guess you could search both if you want one..
07:26 * magnuse waves
07:26 dcook hey ya magnuse :)
07:31 magnuse hiya dcook
07:32 dcook Good day so far?
07:35 magnuse apart from oversleeping, yeah...
07:36 magnuse so, it's just getting started, too hard to tell
07:36 magnuse the weather looks promising though
07:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #111 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:40 huginn GERMS!!!!
07:40 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
07:40 kf morning
07:42 magnuse guten morgen kf
07:43 dcook wb kf
07:47 magnuse dcook: how was your day? would be interesting to hear from someone who has already lived through most of it ;-)
07:49 dcook hehe
07:50 dcook Not too bad
07:50 dcook Posted the z39.50 authority searching feature, backported it to our localised 3.8.x systems, updated the master version after encountering a few issues, and then just some generic support.
07:50 dcook My new computer also arrived this morning ^_^
07:51 dcook It's just a cheap Intel box but it has a fresh HDD just waiting for Debian and Koha...
07:51 dcook Heading off in a few minutes to go to a farewell to a French friend of mine who is heading back home in a few days
07:52 magnuse ah, that doesn't sound too bad!
07:54 dcook Not too bad at all :)
07:54 * magnuse wonders if a patch for Bug 10134 could still make it into 3.12
07:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10134 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , set XSLT usage ON as default, for new Koha installs
07:55 dcook For some reason, I thought it was already the default. Hmm..
07:57 magnuse don't think so
07:58 dcook Hmm. I guess you never know unless you try ;)
08:01 magnuse good point
08:01 magnuse :-)
08:01 magnuse mtj around?
08:03 mtj hey magnuse
08:03 wahanui it has been said that magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
08:03 mtj wazzup?
08:03 magnuse kia ora mtj
08:03 magnuse do you have a patch coming for bug 10134?
08:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10134 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , set XSLT usage ON as default, for new Koha installs
08:04 mtj hmmm, no - not yet. its just a placeholder.. :/
08:04 mtj so i dont forget
08:04 magnuse ah, ok, mind if i do one?
08:04 mtj lol, nope! :D
08:04 magnuse yay! :-)
08:05 mtj i'll sign it off
08:05 mtj then we give cait cookies to QA it
08:06 kf i would give lots of cookies to the person looking at the sip and packaging patches...
08:06 kf qa and sign off
08:06 kf and now off for a meeting :)
08:09 mtj i tried to qa a sip patch recently, but couldnt get a working sipserver :/
08:11 dcook I'd like to know more about using sip but...not really a priority at the moment :/
08:11 dcook On the other hand, anyone looking for an easy sign off...bug 10156
08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10156 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl
08:11 dcook It's literally one line of code
08:13 magnuse dcook: i can give it a shot
08:13 dcook Cool. Thanks, magnuse :)
08:19 magnuse weirdness. could someone please visit http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=2 and tell me if you get an error or not?
08:19 dcook sure
08:19 dcook Yep
08:19 dcook Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /home/magnus/kohahead/opac/opac-detail.pl line 445.
08:19 magnuse then try http://head.bibkat.no/
08:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #111: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/111/
08:21 jenkins_koha * Stefano Bargioni: Bug 10093 - Typo in marc21_leader.tt
08:21 jenkins_koha * Kristina D.C. Hoeppner: Bug 2046 - Suggestions: Title Field too small
08:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version number
08:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10093 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bargioni, Pushed to Stable , Typo in marc21_leader.tt
08:21 dcook No error, but the HTML/CSS seems a bit off
08:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2046 normal, P3, ---, kristina, Pushed to Stable , Suggestions: Title Field too small
08:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #310 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:22 dcook The opacnav is bleeding over into the mainuserblock
08:22 magnuse dcook: yeah, but you can see the front page?
08:22 dcook Yep. No errors. It works.
08:22 magnuse ah, you already said, thanks
08:23 magnuse then try the first link again, please?
08:23 dcook Works now :)
08:24 * dcook needs a bug testing day...
08:24 magnuse i did not change anything in between - it seems to give the error when you go directly to a record, but if you visit the front page first it's ok
08:24 dcook Ahh, interesting
08:25 dcook Some global variable being set by the front page I assume
08:25 dcook Maybe
08:25 dcook What's at line 445?
08:25 magnuse my $branch = C4::Context->userenv->{branch};
08:26 magnuse i can reproduce it on my dev install
08:26 magnuse both of these are current master
08:26 magnuse huston, we have a problem...
08:27 rangi there was a bug for that
08:28 magnuse oh?
08:28 rangi yeah i cant recall which one it was
08:28 rangi can you check it on 3.12.x ?
08:29 magnuse sure
08:29 drojf @quote 123
08:29 wahanui @quote get 123
08:29 huginn drojf: downloading the Perl source
08:29 huginn wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
08:29 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>...
08:29 rangi but yeah its bug 7740
08:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7740 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Highlight items in own library in search results/detail page in OPAC
08:29 magnuse rangi: same thing there: http://demo.test312.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1
08:29 rangi that beaks it
08:30 dcook Mmm
08:30 rangi breaks it
08:30 * dcook wishes folks luck
08:30 dcook I'm out for the night. See you all tomorrow :)
08:30 rangi oh its quite simple
08:30 rangi C4::Context->userenv->{branch};
08:31 rangi you dont have a userenv
08:31 rangi if you arent logged in
08:31 magnuse that makes sense :-)
08:31 rangi line 445 needs to be
08:31 magnuse but... do you get one by visiting the front page, then?
08:31 rangi if (C4::Context->userenv){
08:32 rangi yep
08:32 rangi starts an anonymous session
08:32 magnuse and that only happens on the front page?
08:32 rangi or search results
08:32 rangi doesnt happen on detail page
08:32 rangi and it shouldnt
08:33 rangi cos else google would spawn a zillion sessions
08:33 rangi but basically we should do
08:33 rangi my $branch;
08:33 rangi my $branch = '';
08:33 rangi even
08:33 rangi then
08:34 rangi if (C4::Context->userenv){
08:34 rangi $branch = C4::Context->userenv->{branch};
08:34 rangi }
08:34 rangi and then
08:34 rangi if ( C4::Context->preference('HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC') )
08:34 rangi becomes
08:34 rangi if ( $branch && C4::Context->preference('HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC') )
08:35 rangi no point doing that loop if we no idea what the branch is
08:35 rangi that make sense?
08:35 magnuse um, i guess
08:35 magnuse there is a test for $branch on line 448, though?
08:37 rangi true, only one useless statement executed in that case
08:37 rangi just doing the if setting the branch is fine
08:37 magnuse because 'HighlightOwnItemsOnOPACWhich' can be 'OpacURLBranch'
08:37 rangi yep
08:38 magnuse rangi: want to do a patch for that, or do you want me to do it for you? :-)
08:38 rangi you can do it :)
08:39 rangi actually we should check opac-search.pl
08:39 rangi it might need the same fix
08:41 rangi why is my firefox phone in germany?
08:42 magnuse hm, maybe ask kf?
09:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #310: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/310/
09:01 jenkins_koha * Stefano Bargioni: Bug 10093 - Typo in marc21_leader.tt
09:01 jenkins_koha * Edmund Balnaves: Bug 8264 - local cover images not working in IE8 [ prog ]
09:01 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10022 - Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page
09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10093 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bargioni, Pushed to Stable , Typo in marc21_leader.tt
09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , local cover images not working in IE8
09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10022 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page
09:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #112 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:02 rangi @wunder nzwn
09:02 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on May 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
09:02 rangi that seems wrong
09:02 magnuse @wunder boo
09:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 08, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
09:03 magnuse that seems just about right, except the sun is shining :-)
09:03 rangi i dont believe its 9, i bet its more like 6 here
09:04 magnuse rangi: the best way to ensure userenv is not set (for testing) is to delete the session cookie, right?
09:04 rangi think so, yeah
09:05 magnuse cool, thanks
09:15 magnuse mtj: bug 10134 is ready for testing
09:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10134 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , set XSLT usage ON as default, for new Koha installs
09:17 rangi cool
09:20 magnuse rangi: did you think there already was a bug for the problem with userenv?
09:20 magnuse or were you thinking about the bug that caused it?
09:22 magnuse there is bug 8198
09:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8198 normal, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, NEW , Need to track the call to "C4::Context->userenv->{'xxxx'} without check if it is undefined
09:29 rangi ah yeah thats related
09:31 magnuse i think i'll make a new bug and link it to that
09:35 magnuse also related to Bug 9980, i guess
09:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken
09:36 magnuse yeah, that is the same fix for opac-search.pl
09:37 rangi that was the one i was remembering
09:37 magnuse yeah, that makes sense
09:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #112: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/112/
09:43 jenkins_koha * Edmund Balnaves: Bug 8264 - local cover images not working in IE8 [ prog ]
09:44 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10153 - Patron header search form is too wide
09:44 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10152: Default sorting wrong in parcels.pl
09:44 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10022 - Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page
09:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , local cover images not working in IE8
09:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10153 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Patron header search form is too wide
09:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10152 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Default sorting wrong in parcels.pl
09:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10022 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page
09:45 magnuse success \o/
10:08 magnuse bug 10217 is ready for testing
10:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10217 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make sure direct links to detail views work when there is no session
10:10 kf magnuse: cool you fixed that :) a coworker of mine was experiencing it
10:11 kf i wonder why it only happened for her
10:11 kf she gets logged out of koha a lot -and we were not able to figure out what#s wrong (must be browser settings?)
10:12 magnuse i have that happening for one customer too - for her it seems to happen when she is editing sysprefs
10:12 kf hm more general here I am afraid
10:12 magnuse hm
11:11 magnuse moin drojf & khall
11:11 khall good day magnuse!
11:11 khall and kf!
11:22 kf hi khall
11:22 kf :)
12:03 jcamins kf: why's that?
12:04 kf why's what?
12:06 jcamins Why did you wish I was awake?
12:07 jcamins Hey, didn't I push a fix for 10217?
12:07 kf bug 10127
12:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10127 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Needs Signoff , Printoverdues.sh should tar only pdf files
12:08 kf hm i don't remember
12:08 oleonard Hi #koha
12:08 kf hi oleonard
12:09 jcamins Wow.
12:09 jcamins bug 10217
12:09 wahanui i think bug 10217 is ready for testing
12:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10217 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make sure direct links to detail views work when there is no session
12:09 jcamins Sorry, wrong bug numbe.
12:09 jcamins *number
12:09 kf hm same - don't remember, but I am not you :)
12:11 jcamins Ohhh.
12:11 jcamins Bug 9980.
12:11 wahanui bug 9980 is signed off
12:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken
12:11 jcamins I thought I remembered getting very tetchy and throwing a hissy fit. :)
12:12 kf jcamins: that's not really a helpful clue to remember...
12:12 kf you do that often :P
12:13 * kf better hides somewhere
12:13 jcamins kf: yeah, but that is actually a very good clue: if I remember getting tetchy and throwing a hissy fit, it's probably an accurate memory. :P
12:14 kf heh
12:24 oleonard What is this message about? http://www.mail-archive.com/koha@lists.katipo.co.nz/msg07714.html
12:25 jcamins Removing articles from searches using javascript.
12:26 jcamins No poetry journal for you!
12:26 oleonard Why?
12:27 jcamins Because there are poetry journals with names like "a" and "the."
12:30 kf wasn't there a band too? the the or something?
12:31 jcamins kf: yeah, true.
12:37 oleonard But why does someone need to remove articles from searches using javascript?
12:38 kf oleonard: because someone was taught that stopwords are a feature
12:38 kf while they were only an ugly band aid for ILS that couldn't deal with big result lists.
12:39 kf or databases in general I think
12:39 kf at least I don't think they have a real use in searches - but might be wrong.
12:39 jcamins No, no use in searches.
12:39 jcamins Sorting, yes, searching, no.
12:40 kf agreed
12:42 kf hi Dyrcona
12:42 Dyrcona Hello!
12:46 magnuse jcamins: 9980 was for opac-search.pl, 10217 is for opac-detail.pl
12:46 jcamins magnuse: yup.
12:47 jcamins I know they're both necessary, I just thought it was familiar.
12:47 magnuse ah cool
12:49 oleonard jcamins: Under what circumstances is the jstree plugin used on opac-authoritiesdetail.pl? The template says IF displayhierarchy?
12:51 jcamins oleonard: if you have AuthDisplayHierarchy turned on, and links in the broader/narrower fields.
12:52 oleonard Thanks
12:54 oleonard You can tell I'm getting towards the end of the list of OPAC templates to Bootstrap if I'm working on the authorities-related ones :P
12:54 jcamins Hehehe.
12:54 jcamins Yay!
12:55 magnuse oleonard++
12:56 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Today's partner quote: " #KohaILS gets more impressive with each release and ByWater has been a wonderful vendor to work with. ""
12:57 druthb oleonard++
13:18 magnuse brace youselves for the fun, folks! http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-05-10_Global_bug_squashing_day
13:19 kf magnuse++
13:19 jcamins Yay!
13:20 oleonard I ⤠GBSD
13:21 kf and remember - we still got some nice things in bugzila that could go into 3.12!!
13:24 magnuse kf: maybe you could point them out somewhere?
13:25 magnuse email sent to the lists, btw
13:25 kf it's easy
13:25 kf everything that is a bug
13:25 kf and doesn't touch strings
13:25 kf but i will try to point it out if our RM doesn't beat me to it
13:25 kf ;)
13:25 drojf w00t! global pizza day
13:25 drojf oh, and that bug thing
13:25 kf lol
13:26 jcamins The RM will not beat you to it.
13:26 jcamins The RM will take whatever bugfixes are written, signed off, and QAed, but is not going to be looking at Bugzilla again.
13:26 jcamins I have release notes to write, and actual real work to do.
13:28 kf jcamins: i thought you woudl say that
13:28 * kf offers you cookies
13:28 kf i will try to write up an email tomorrow
13:29 kf ... and i offered to help with release notes writing :)
13:30 drojf for 3.14 i'd like a release picture to be drawn
13:30 drojf instead of notes
13:31 jcamins drojf: I'd draw a release picture for 3.12, but I think it might offend people.
13:31 drojf not volunteering for the position of release picture manager though
13:31 drojf jcamins: worth a try :D
13:34 magnuse @arewethereyet
13:34 huginn magnuse: YES!
13:34 magnuse oops :-)
13:53 jcamins Anyone know what SocialData is?
13:53 oleonard I'm pretty sure it's a Babeltheque thing
13:53 jcamins Something to do with Babeltheque, I guess.
13:56 kf yeah i think so too
14:04 oleonard jcamins: Bug 10201 doesn't make the cut for 3.12?
14:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10201 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Old OPAC patron update system should be removed
14:06 jcamins oleonard: it looked like more than just the URL changed in opac-user.tt.
14:06 jcamins If I'm misreading, it's a candidate.
14:06 oleonard There shouldn't be any other changes besides the URL. I think it's an important bug fix.
14:07 jcamins But I'm seeing it changing a note about a delay in updates to a note about an up-to-date address.
14:07 jcamins Wait, never mind.
14:07 jcamins I misread it.
14:07 jcamins The lines are way too long.
14:07 jcamins (not something that should've been changed in the patch, just an observation)
14:08 jcamins So, yeah, that'll go into 3.12.
14:09 jcamins But not right now, since I have to head into the city.
14:09 oleonard Thanks
14:10 * oleonard just used up one of his "urge the RM to include his patch" tokens... not sure how many we get...
14:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9681' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a63695e15f755b90cf8f06e25bc79cdb7c45989c> / Bug 9681: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a9a82dcc3ebdb3b7f130edbfb8c6ef67f97eb68> / Bug 9681: Add some indexes in database <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68ff49bb7d982737c41a225cd697b
14:12 druthb you get more than most others, I imagine, oleonard. The Do-ers win.
14:15 gmcharlt @quote random
14:15 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010)
14:18 tcohen hey, that wasn't from pianohacker
14:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #26 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:28 oleonard We let patrons sign up for subscription alerts but we don't let them unsubscribe :|
14:30 drojf oleonard: like the real spammers :)
14:31 * druthb offers drojf a cookie.
14:32 drojf druthb: thanks! how do i deserve this?
14:33 drojf can't send myself a zip file, university mail scanner complaining about an exe file inside. can send me a tar.gz of the same thing though. it's all about security and stuff :D
14:34 oleonard drojf: Does the contents of your zip file contain the letters e-x-e ? :)
14:34 druthb I'm just a nice girl like that, drojf.
14:37 drojf druthb: i remember you as the girl with the pointy stick, that is why i am a little cautious ;)
14:38 drojf oleonard: it's a real exe file! i'm doing fieldwork recordings archeology. with files from ~25 years ago
14:38 druthb Even numbered day, drojf.
14:38 drojf druthb: lol
14:38 oleonard Well there you go drojf. Bad guy caught!
14:39 drojf oleonard: but not caught with the powers of tar.gz
14:39 drojf it's an evil encryption thing apparently :P
14:39 oleonard I hear they used that in The Matrix to avoid the machines.
14:41 oleonard Interesting how many bugs one finds when one simply goes through the OPAC trying everything.
14:42 drojf that is not really good, is it?
14:46 oleonard It's not great.
14:48 oleonard Hey, look, it's Bug 9773!
14:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery
14:49 maximep we really need selenium tests that click everywhere on the opac with different settings enabled
14:49 maximep that would actually be fun to do
14:50 * drojf heads home
14:50 oleonard I thought I remembered someone trying selenium with Koha
14:50 maximep yes
14:51 maximep well, I did
14:51 maximep but there was a blog post from....
14:51 maximep arg
14:52 maximep http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/12/18/what-is-selenium-and-why-we-should-be-using-it-in-koha/
14:52 maximep good stuff
14:53 maximep I dont remember if I actually sent patches with selenium tests
15:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #26: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/26/
15:02 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9961: Add truncation support to QP driver
15:02 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10204 - Patron image no longer appears in the OPAC
15:02 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 8278 - Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9961 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Truncation and QueryAutoTruncate not working properly with new QueryParser
15:02 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8278 : Follow up, fixing the permissions on cataloguing/ysearch.pl
15:02 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 8278 [Follow-up] Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
15:02 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8278: build the structure with to_json instead of manually.
15:02 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 10156 - Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl
15:02 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Fix update 3.09.00.025
15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10204 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron image no longer appears in the OPAC
15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
15:02 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Add missing columns in update 3.09.00.025
15:02 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 9681: Add some indexes in database
15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10156 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl
15:02 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9681: Increment version number
15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10185 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , updatedatabase.pl remove all reserves
15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9681 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Add some indexes in database
15:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #1165 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:06 ghoulmann question: scoping koha out for eval for our school with debian from apt. on port 8080, admin site is working beautifully. however, opac on port 80 only works from the localhost. any suggestions?
15:08 ghoulmann http://paste.debian.net/2921/
15:16 oleonard Sorry ghoulmann there don't seem to be any Apache experts around at the moment
15:18 ghoulmann ok, thanks anyway.
15:19 jcamins Success? Uh-oh.
15:19 jcamins I think that means I broke something.
15:20 jcamins ghoulmann: what do you see from remote?
15:20 jcamins "It works"?
15:20 ghoulmann yes
15:20 ghoulmann i think one sec
15:20 ghoulmann yes
15:21 ghoulmann i did a2dissite 000-default, however. still, "it works"
15:21 jcamins And you restarted Apache?
15:21 jcamins What does `sudo apache2ctl -S` tell you?
15:21 jcamins (use paste.koha-community.org)
15:23 tcohen sudo service apache2 reload
15:23 jcamins tcohen: -S will tell you what sites are listening on which ports.
15:23 jcamins Very useful.
15:23 tcohen oh, didn't know it
15:24 tcohen oh, its great, it also says which vhost is considered the default
15:24 oleonard "(/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:6)" What does the ":6" mean?
15:25 jcamins Line 6.
15:25 ghoulmann http://paste.koha-community.org/10 i think is mine.
15:25 ghoulmann i have a new result: $ipaddr/chelsea now brings up a koha 404
15:25 jcamins And $ipaddr brings up "It works"?
15:26 ghoulmann correct
15:26 jcamins Odd.
15:27 tcohen I guess apache2ctl -S tells what the config says
15:27 tcohen not what the current running process knows
15:27 jcamins Oh, good point.
15:27 jcamins ghoulmann: restart Apache with `sudo service apache2 restart`?
15:31 tcohen jcamins, what do u think the expected behaviour of koha-create should be if there is already a koha-conf.xml file for the instance?
15:31 jcamins tcohen: warn, and don't do anything.
15:33 ghoulmann ok
15:35 ghoulmann jcamis: same. sorry for the delay
15:37 ghoulmann this works: http://$ipaddr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
15:37 jcamins That is correct.
15:37 jcamins The problem is that your redirects are wrong.
15:38 jcamins Fortunately, that's easy to fix.
15:38 jcamins But I can't due to my connection.
15:39 jcamins I don't know if you'll see this message, but try enabling mod_rewrite.
15:39 jcamins Or removing any customizations you added.
15:39 jcamins I think those messages went through.
15:40 jcamins So, `sudo a2enmod rewrite && sudo service apache2 restart`
15:47 tcohen the create / request+populate / use use cases are flawed
15:48 jcamins tcohen: oh?
15:49 tcohen i just don't like the workflows they reflect
15:49 jcamins I use create and use.
15:49 ghoulmann rewrite is enabled and service restarted.
15:50 tcohen what do u think the difference between create and use is?
15:50 tcohen what i read the cod eis that use only doesn't populate the db
15:50 tcohen (but creates all the stuff)
15:50 jcamins tcohen: use allows me to use an existing database without any errors.
15:51 tcohen what koha branch?
15:51 jcamins What do you mean?
15:52 tcohen are you using it in 3.10 ? im'm trying to establish if I broke it
15:52 jcamins Ah.
15:52 jcamins No.
15:52 jcamins 3.6.x.
15:53 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:54 jcamins I haven't tried it on 3.10.x in a while.
15:54 jcamins What does it not do right?
15:54 tcohen i expected that there was a way to avoid the DB user creation
15:54 jcamins Ah.
15:54 jcamins No.
15:55 tcohen is it a bug?
15:56 jcamins I don't know.
15:56 jcamins It has never bothered me.
15:57 tcohen that's because you have admin access to the DB server I guess
15:58 jcamins Right.
15:58 jcamins I'd use populate db if I didn't.
15:58 jcamins But I do. :)
15:58 jcamins Or request db, rather.
15:58 tcohen request+populate, right
16:04 druthb Happy birthday, melia!
16:05 melia thanks druthb! :)
16:05 * mtompset whistles, "Happy Birthday to you..."
16:06 mtompset Greetings, jcamins tcohen druthb melia. :)
16:06 druthb Hi, mtompset.
16:07 tcohen hi mtompset
16:07 druthb Hi, mtompset. :)
16:15 mtompset Greetings, drojf.
16:16 drojf hi mtompset
16:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1165: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1165/
16:16 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9961: Add truncation support to QP driver
16:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10204 - Patron image no longer appears in the OPAC
16:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 8278 - Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
16:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8278 : Follow up, fixing the permissions on cataloguing/ysearch.pl
16:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 8278 [Follow-up] Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9961 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Truncation and QueryAutoTruncate not working properly with new QueryParser
16:16 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8278: build the structure with to_json instead of manually.
16:16 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 10156 - Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl
16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10204 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron image no longer appears in the OPAC
16:16 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Fix update 3.09.00.025
16:16 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Add missing columns in update 3.09.00.025
16:16 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 9681: Add some indexes in database
16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10156 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix usr/bin/perl path for get_report_social_data.pl
16:16 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9681: Increment version number
16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10185 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , updatedatabase.pl remove all reserves
16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9681 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Add some indexes in database
18:04 oleonard Is there any reason why we have the css directory inside the language directory?
18:05 jcamins oleonard: we haven't moved it yet, I think.
18:05 jcamins I mean, that's the only reason.
18:07 * oleonard adds that to his Bootstrap OPAC branch
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18:25 tweetbot [off] twitter: @kohails: "#KohaILS Defining Circ & Fine Rules in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/xhcIVSXiZW"
19:03 oleonard Whoa, did you guys see Bug 9773? It looks like so much fun to test!
19:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery
19:04 mtompset I thought AJAX and JQuery were synonomous. What's the difference?
19:05 jcamins AJAX = a technology and jQuery = a library.
19:05 jcamins Completely different.
19:05 oleonard jQuery can help you do AJAX
19:05 oleonard But you can do AJAX without jQuery
19:05 jcamins We use jQuery for AJAX, but that's just a matter of style.
19:05 mtompset Right.
19:06 mtompset Ah, so this bug is to reduce dependency on YUI?
19:06 oleonard Yes
19:06 jcamins Yes.
19:07 jcamins And, of course, AJAX can be done without jQuery or YUI, it's just more convenient to use a library.
19:08 mtompset Is the goal to toss YUI to the curb? ;)
19:10 jcamins Yes.
19:16 * oleonard has too many irons in the fire.
19:21 oleonard Evidence: "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 1 and 1085 different commits each, respectively."
19:21 jcamins Ouch.
19:23 mtompset That reminds me of a question I had.
19:23 mtompset Let's say I have this patch I'm working on.
19:23 mtompset And master keeps moving on me.
19:23 mtompset And I'm forced to commit each time as I merge.
19:24 jcamins Most likely you should be rebasing not merging.
19:24 jcamins But go on.
19:24 mtompset What happens to the patch when I finally finish and git commit -a the last time?
19:25 mtompset Will all my past commits be listed in that patch?
19:25 jcamins No.
19:25 jcamins git commit -a changes the last patch.
19:25 mtompset -a is all, not amend.
19:25 jcamins Oh.
19:26 jcamins Sorry.
19:26 jcamins No, of course it doesn't list previous commits.
19:26 mtompset because my commits consisted of 'blah' and 'arg' and stuff like that for the messages. :)
19:26 jcamins It will indicate where the tree was when it was written, but it doesn't list commits.
19:27 jcamins You'll need to squash those. Each time you commit, you're doing a new commit.
19:27 jcamins (based on what you've told us)
19:28 mtompset So what's the best way to get it to a cleaner nice state?
19:28 jcamins Use rebase rather than merge, and at the end do an interactive rebase and squash all the patches.
19:29 mtompset so okay... scenario: I have made a change in my files, master has just updated AGAIN...
19:29 mtompset git rebase?
19:29 mtompset because when I said merge, I was talking about "git pull" (which does the merge step too)
19:30 jcamins git rebase origin/master
19:30 jcamins If you merge in between, you're going to end up with a gazillion merge conflicts.
19:31 mtompset which I have fixed with each git pull.
19:31 mtompset It hasn't been too bad, but I could see it getting worse.
19:32 jcamins Actually, I have bad news... if you've been doing a git pull, you've almost certainly been correcting the conflicts on the wrong patches.
19:32 mtompset but git diff displays the changes I have done.
19:32 jcamins Changing things in master rather than in your patch set.
19:33 mtompset but it says my branch is "9" commits ahead.
19:35 mtompset So, I don't understand your bad news.
19:38 jcamins Hm.
19:39 jcamins It's possible I had you change it to use rebase rather than merge.
19:39 mtompset I think I tried to rebase once.
19:39 mtompset And after a whole bunch of confusion, I did a hard reset.
19:44 oleonard Sorry jcamins, I give up on Bug 8661.
19:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8661 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , break out additional authors in opac like in staff
19:45 jcamins oleonard: okay.
19:45 mtompset okay... so I stored the git diff in a mega.patch file. Then, I just checked out my solely base on master branch. git pull, git reset hard, git pull (just to know for sure). created new branch based on origin/master, and then patch -p1 < mega.patch -- that should be good enough, right? :)
19:45 mtompset Don't cringe too much. :)
19:45 jcamins mtompset: I have no idea.
19:46 jcamins I can't even follow what you did.
19:46 jcamins But I highly recommend reading oleonard's blog post about git branches.
19:46 jcamins And how to use them.
19:47 mtompset URL?
19:47 wahanui well, URL is horrid :)
19:47 jcamins I'd say you might as well continue what you're doing, and if the patch doesn't apply for anyone else when it's ready to submit you'll have to rebase.
19:47 jcamins No idea.
19:47 jcamins oleonard's blog?
19:47 wahanui oleonard's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha
19:47 jcamins ^^ somewhere in there
19:47 oleonard http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558
19:48 oleonard I ought to do a revised version which incorporates git-bz.
19:48 jcamins oleonard++
19:49 mtompset http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558
19:49 mtompset Yes, that is a 2010 post.
19:50 oleonard The information isn't out of date, but I have improved my git workflow since then (with much help from everyone here)
19:51 mtompset By the way, thanks for telling me about the koha-deps and koha-perldeps, folks. That most definitely deals with the 64-bit OS installing 32-bit libraries issue as had by the older dselect instructions.
19:51 rangi speaking of flow
19:52 rangi http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
19:52 rangi https://github.com/nvie/gitflow
19:52 rangi i havent tried it, but it looks promising
19:53 oleonard Don't follow that link mtompset! It will not help your confusion :)
19:53 mtompset pretty picture, but what colour am I? what colour is origin/master? ;)
19:53 mtompset Yes, I noticed, oleonard. :)
19:55 oleonard And hi rangi :)
19:58 oleonard That is so not awesome that we broke the detail page for users without sessions.
19:58 rangi we broke the search page too
19:58 rangi but thats fixed already
19:58 tcohen rangi: is it for a single person usage,e right? a local git?
19:58 rangi if you read the logs oleonard you can seel the whole sorry tale
19:59 rangi tcohen: yes and no, everything is for local with git
19:59 rangi but yeah that would be how you would manage your clone
19:59 tcohen right
19:59 rangi how you upstream code, can still be done in any way you want
20:00 rangi what i use a lot
20:00 rangi is git wtf
20:00 wahanui well, git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
20:00 rangi check it out
20:00 jcamins git wtf?
20:00 wahanui i heard git was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
20:00 jcamins Huh.
20:00 jcamins Interesting.
20:00 wahanui somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
20:01 rangi http://git-wt-commit.rubyforge.org/
20:02 tcohen looks awesome rangi
20:02 rangi it's quite handy
20:04 oleonard jcamins: Did you ever re-test Bug 8952 following Marcel's last comment?
20:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Failed QA , Add http:// to url in social media links on opac-detail
20:04 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "git wtf Local branch: master [" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/11
20:05 jcamins I did not.
20:05 jcamins I didn't notice it.
20:06 mtompset are you guys talking about bug 10217?
20:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10217 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make sure direct links to detail views work when there is no session
20:07 rangi yep thats the one fixed last night
20:08 rangi bug 9980
20:08 wahanui somebody said bug 9980 was signed off
20:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken
20:08 rangi was the other one
20:10 mtompset Though, I was curious why use '' and not q{}?
20:10 mtompset The latter is more perl critic friendly.
20:13 oleonard Bye #koha
20:17 jcamins mtompset: no reason.
20:18 mtompset Are people aware of the perl critic friendliness of q{}? :)
20:18 jcamins Probably not.
20:18 tcohen perl critic sucks
20:18 tcohen :-P
21:20 druthb oy! A drive-by sekjal-ing!
21:33 rangi my phone is now in china
21:40 tcohen didn't it come from china?
21:41 rangi possibly, but it started this journey in the UK
21:41 rangi then it went to germany
21:41 rangi now china
21:41 tcohen heh, a loooong journey!
21:42 rangi tcohen: if you bump into bgkriegel you could tell him I was thinking of scheduling a handover tutorial thing, on irc for whenever you 2 want to learn how i do release maintenance
21:43 tcohen ok rangi, what nz time would u prefer?
21:44 rangi either during a weekday
21:44 rangi or after 8pm nztime in an evening
21:44 rangi what works better for you?
21:48 tcohen after 8pm is too early for us (5am)
21:48 tcohen so i guess by the time you get to work
21:49 tcohen maybe 9am wellington time? (6pm here)
21:54 rangi that sounds good
21:54 rangi how about tuesday .. that would be 6pm monday for you?
22:03 tcohen yes rangi
22:03 rangi cool
22:04 tcohen lemme ask bgkriegel once he's only
22:04 tcohen online
22:07 rangi thanks
22:09 jcamins bag: http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/226551 <-- for when you want to write your book
22:10 bag :)
23:12 eythian @marc 222$a
23:12 huginn eythian: unknown tag 222$a
23:12 cait hey eythian :)
23:12 eythian hiya
23:12 eythian @marc 222
23:12 huginn eythian: A unique title for a continuing resource that is assigned in conjunction with an ISSN recorded in field 022 by national centers under the auspices of the ISSN Network. (Repeatable) [a,b,6,8]
23:15 rangi woot
23:15 trea eythian++
23:16 eythian what'd I do?
23:16 trea what don't you do, is a better question
23:16 eythian heh
23:17 rangi http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/minister-supports-nz-software-innovation
23:17 wizzyrea Mr. Foss.
23:17 wizzyrea How appropriate.
23:18 eythian annoyingly, it's generally terribly inappropriate.
23:18 rangi yeah
23:18 rangi he's the gomba who put 'as such' back in
23:18 rangi took a lot of pressure to get it taken out (which they finally have)
23:19 wizzyrea I suppose my sarcasm really didn't come through there.
23:20 * cait waves to rangi and wizzyrea
23:20 mtompset failed to mark it with tags or emoticons. :P
23:20 eythian what do you expect if you don't use sarcasm marksØŸ
23:20 wizzyrea kekeke
23:21 * mtompset high fives eythian. :)
23:21 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_five#.22Too_slow.22 <-- that reminds me of the best photo series in wikipedia ever
23:22 trea o/ HIGH FIVE \o
23:29 dcook morning #koha
23:34 mtompset In some timezones, dcook. Greetings. :)
23:34 dcook hey ya mtompset
23:35 eythian mtompset: we're in the future, so if it's not the morning there yet, we know that it will be.
23:36 dcook eythian: I had a very satisfying December 31st, 2012 in Canada last year ;)
23:36 mtompset Depends on how fast the blackhole sucks us in. :P
23:36 wizzyrea you've been reading about the large hadron collider again, haven't you
23:37 mtompset Nah, I figure the sun will go blackhole on us before the LHC generates something to kill us. :P
23:38 * dcook thinks the sun has quite enough fuel for thousands (if not millions) of years yet
23:38 wizzyrea hm, my understanding was that the sun would go neutron star, not black hole. It's not big enough to supernove
23:38 wizzyrea supernova.
23:38 wizzyrea but it wouldn't matter anyway, because the earth would have been eaten up by red giant stage :P
23:39 wizzyrea ianaastrophysicist, though.
23:39 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#After_core_hydrogen_exhaustion
23:39 mtompset white dwarf, now that I looked.
23:41 mtompset fine fine... we'll get sucked into Sagittarius A. :P
23:50 cjh wizzyrea: to be fair, if we havent sorted out interstellar travel in 5.4 billion years then we deserve whats coming.
23:50 wizzyrea yea I think we'll nuke ourselves first.
23:50 cjh also very possible
23:52 jcamins Hm.
23:53 jcamins I'm not sure I like seaweed salad.
23:54 eythian Only cockroaches and Search.pm will survive the nuclear apocalyse.
23:54 wizzyrea @quote add <eythian> Only cockroaches and Search.pm will survive the nuclear apocalypse.
23:54 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #247 added.
23:58 dcook jcamins: Fair enough. I'm not sure I'd eat seaweed outside of sushi
23:59 jcamins In fact, I definitely don't like it.
23:59 dcook cjh: Agreed about the interstellar travel. Silly humans.
23:59 wizzyrea is it the rubbery kind?
23:59 jcamins wizzyrea: a little rubbery, but mostly just... eww.