IRC log for #koha, 2013-04-19

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00:02 eythian wizzyrea: it's not working
00:03 eythian wizzyrea: fix it please
00:03 eythian (new enough? ;)
00:06 sammy2 Hello wizzyrea
00:06 sammy2 I am currently trying to do a re-installation, will inform you when I am through so you can give me further help
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00:07 eythian sammy2: from Zuid-Afrika, or Nigeria?
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00:19 sammy2 from Nigeria
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03:26 dcook Hmm...the MARC import should include Record matching rules for other fields than just the ISBN
03:27 wizzyrea you can add them, i thought
03:27 dcook Yeah?
03:27 dcook Ahh
03:27 dcook Liz, you're a star
03:27 wizzyrea ^.^
03:29 jcamins And, yeah, it really should.
03:30 dcook Hmm, would that be a patch on kohastructure.sql?
03:33 dcook Interesting...
03:33 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
03:33 dcook I'm not going to stop saying it, wahanui :P
03:34 jcamins dcook: nah, just sample data.
03:36 dcook Mmm, there it is
03:37 dcook I love Koha documentation sometimes
03:37 dcook "'Required match checks' - ??"
03:39 dcook Hmm, according to the help, the existing record matching rules aren't supposed to work
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03:44 huginn GERMS!!!!
03:44 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
03:47 eythian wahanui: cait
03:47 wahanui go back to bed, cait.
03:49 wizzyrea eythian: it woudld be funnier if you said that and then made wahanui kick her ;P
03:49 wizzyrea but only between certain hours
03:50 eythian haha
03:50 eythian alas, I can't op wahanui.
03:50 trea heh
03:50 wizzyrea oh maybe I can
03:51 cjh heh
03:51 wizzyrea mua ha ha ha ha
03:51 dcook And that was the beginning of the the end for the humans
03:51 trea forgive us
03:51 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
03:51 wahanui you are a Cylon, and they all have plans.
03:51 dcook The bots became ops and quickly cast down their human overlords
03:51 trea for they know not what they do
04:15 bag evening
04:17 cjh hi bag :)
04:18 bag heya cjh
04:19 * dcook tips his hypothetical hat to bag
04:20 bag heya dcook
04:21 wizzyrea \o/
04:21 dcook :)
04:22 dcook Off to lunch with me
04:22 dcook bbiab!
04:40 eythian wahanui: is it beer o'clock?
04:40 wizzyrea half past!
04:40 eythian I think wahanui is already there.
04:40 eythian yeah, wanted to finish a document.
04:41 * wizzyrea too
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05:19 cait someone still there? :)
05:21 * dcook puts up his hand
05:21 dcook I was thinking I was the only one too
05:21 dcook Just about to Google a previous conversation of ours :p
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05:35 dcook[…]e_Debian_packages
05:35 dcook Now I know why everyone says to use Debian packages...
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05:36 Guest2777 hello there
05:37 Guest2777 Please I need help with KOHA installation, is there anyone who can help?
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05:49 mveron Good morning #koha
05:49 mveron ...and good morning Cait :-)
05:49 cait hi mveron :)
05:49 cait nice to see you!
05:49 mveron Long time.. to much work...
05:50 cait hope at least wlel paid? :)
05:50 mveron I'ts OK :-)
05:51 mveron Pootle says: header field 'Project ID Version' still has the initial default value
05:51 mveron while saving de-DE-prfe.po (for translation to de-CH
05:51 cait for the pref file?
05:51 cait yeah
05:51 cait we should fix htat
05:51 cait but if you fix it, next update will overwrite
05:51 * mtj waves to mveron, cait, sammy, dcook
05:51 cait I tried that
05:52 mveron hi mtj
05:52 mveron cait: But does it any harm if I upload it to the de-CH?
05:53 * dcook waves back to mtj
05:53 mtj dcook, i think a big win for the deb packages are around n00bs and zebra problems
05:54 dcook mtj: Yeah, I was thinking that as I was going through the wiki
05:54 dcook Also just plain convenient for any administrator
05:54 mtj yep
05:54 dcook Especially for multi-instance admins
05:55 dcook Of course, I'd have to experiment/learn to build packages before I could make a case for switching over to Debian
05:55 mtj you have a snowballs chance in hell of getting zebra running/indexing without the pkgs
05:56 dcook Oh yeah?
05:56 mtj well, not you personally, david… :)
05:56 dcook lol
05:57 dcook Indexing isn't too bad
05:57 dcook I've never set Zebra up from scratch though
05:57 mtj s/you/a person new to cron or koha/
05:57 dcook I'm only somewhat familiar with cron :p
05:58 dcook But yeah, from the user standpoint...I don't know why a person would use anything but Debian packages
05:59 dcook I might have to set up my home library and do just that
05:59 dcook I've thought about doing development from home, but 7.5-9 hours a day at work is more than enough of that
05:59 dcook No offense to those who do're stars!
06:00 mtj and… others have a snowballs chance in hell of helping anyone with zebra problems, thats not running koha pkgs
06:00 dcook Maybe :p
06:00 dcook Really does seem like permissions are often an issue there
06:01 dcook And the FAQ has a good entry about that
06:01 dcook Although I almost never look at the FAQ...
06:02 cait mveron: cross fingers? giving a presentation this morning :)
06:02 mveron cait: Good luck!
06:03 cait mveron:  :)
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06:06 mtj cait, is it just me…. or have you been doing lots of presentations lately?
06:07 dcook I was just about to say that
06:07 cait mtj: guess it's not only you
06:07 cait had one in march too and now in april.... and will have one in may
06:08 cait so all cross fingers for me please ;)
06:08 cait and now it's breakfast time
06:08 cait koha_community++
06:08 mveron cait ++
06:08 * dcook crosses fingers
06:11 dcook Oohhh
06:12 dcook Making "CanBookBeRenewed" check to see if the borrower is restricted..
06:13 dcook Thankfully, the "check out" tab in the patron record just removes the option without even needing to display another warning message
06:13 dcook One less template change
06:13 * dcook celebrates
06:15 * magnuse waves
06:15 dcook hey ya magnuse :)
06:15 magnuse hiya dcook
06:18 magnuse wassup?
06:23 dcook Bug blastin'
06:23 dcook Well, at least I think it's a bug
06:24 dcook Earlier it was...authorities and Marc Org Codes
06:24 dcook And now it's only 40 minutes until 5 :)
06:25 dcook How about you?
06:26 Guest2777 Hello, I started the KOHA installation following the process as stated in
06:27 Guest2777 everything was going well and now this are the last two lines of the command - sudo apt-get install koha-common
06:27 Guest2777 Setting up libstring-random-perl (1:0.22-3) ...  Setting up koha-common (3.10.04-1) ...  root@sam2:~#
06:28 Guest2777 is this what I should get or Ishould still expect other messages after Setting up koha-common (3.10.04-1) ...?
06:28 magnuse dcook: just getting started... probably going to work on a migration
06:28 Guest2777 Please someone help me out
06:29 magnuse Guest2777: that sounds about right
06:29 magnuse there is no "congratulations, you just installed koha-common" ;-)
06:29 Guest2777 ok, thanks, so what next should I do now
06:30 Guest2777 soory I did not receive anything like that
06:32 Guest2777 Please what should I do now, there was nothing like "congratulations, you just installed koha-common"
06:32 magnuse yeah, that's what i said: there is no "congratulations, you just installed koha-common" ;-)
06:33 magnuse if you get no explicit error messages it probably worked
06:33 cjh Guest2777: koha-common is now installed, you should be able to create an instance.
06:33 magnuse so have another look at and do the rest of it
06:33 magnuse install mysql and set up a config file, i think are the next steps
06:34 Guest2777 ok, I will try that now
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06:41 dcook hope the migration goes well, magnuse :)
06:41 reiveune hello
06:42 magnuse thanks dcook - it's still in the very early stages - go live is in september
06:42 dcook Always nice to have some time
06:42 Guest2777 hello, thanks so far, I got to the mysql server install, is this response correct?
06:42 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo apt-get install mysql-server  Reading package lists... Done  Building dependency tree         Reading state information... Done  mysql-server is already the newest version.  The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:    dbconfig-common  Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 43 not upgraded.
06:45 Guest2777 Trying to create instance, I gett error:
06:45 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db admlibrary  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
06:46 Guest2777 any help please?
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06:48 magnuse hm, i've never seen that error
06:48 magnuse sounds like you don't get access to create the database for the new instance
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06:51 Guest2777 so what do you suggest I do,
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06:53 magnuse Guest2777: did you set a password for the root user when you installed mysql?
06:54 Guest2777 It only tells me it was automatically installed
06:54 Guest2777 I pasted the response when creating the mysql server some few lines above
06:54 magnuse ah yes, it said it was already installed
06:54 Guest2777 exactly
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06:57 drojf good morning #koha
06:57 magnuse Guest2777: i'm out of ideas i'm afraid
06:57 Guest2777 ok, thanks, hope someone else will be able to assist further
06:58 dcook morning drojf
06:58 drojf hi dcook
06:59 drojf debian wheezy is supposed to be released 4th/5th of may. does that have any consequences for koha?
06:59 Guest2777 pls is there anyone who can assist me further?
07:01 dcook Don't know, Guest2777
07:01 dcook Maybe uninstall mysql and then reinstall?
07:01 dcook Or...actually..
07:01 Guest2777 ok, can you guide me on that
07:02 mtj Guest2777, google the error….
07:02 mtj[…]s-maintlocalhost/
07:02 Guest2777 doing that... and also checking the link you just gave
07:03 mtj[…]-using-password-y
07:03 mtj[…]r-debian-sys.html
07:03 mtj etc...
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07:14 dcook[…]elete_your_Branch
07:14 dcook :D
07:14 dcook Love deleting en masse
07:20 Guest2777 hello, thanks I was able to correct that and when I tried to create the instance, it give me this message
07:20 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db admlibrary  User admlibrary-koha already exists.
07:20 Guest2777 I then try to remove and re-create it, then the error comes back again:
07:21 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-remove admlibrary  Removing Koha instance admlibrary  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
07:21 Guest2777 do you suggest I re-start mysql?
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07:34 christophe_c hello #koha
07:46 Guest2777 please anyone who can help?
07:53 mtj Guest2777, you still have the same error - you havent fixed it
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07:53 Guest2777 yes
07:53 Guest2777 I have granted all privileges  but yet the error still comes up
07:54 mtj restart mysql
07:54 mtj you have nothing to lose...
07:55 Guest2777 I have done that just now and yet no change
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07:56 mtj so, try to make a new koha, then...
07:56 mtj $ sudo koha-create --create-db test1
07:56 mtj $ sudo koha-create --create-db test2
07:56 mtj $ sudo koha-create --create-db test3
07:56 Guest2777 ok, let me try again
07:57 mtj if you get ': Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'' error...
07:57 mtj … you havent fixed your previous problem
07:58 Guest2777 yes, same error
07:59 Guest2777 Please I really appreciate your help, let me do this again --- restart mysql, then grant all privileges and then test again
07:59 Guest2777 do I do that?
07:59 mtj yep, same error....
08:00 mtj so, you need to fix that first
08:00 Guest2777 do I  --restart mysql, then grant all privileges and then test again
08:03 mtj have you looked in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf  , to  find the password you need?
08:05 Guest2777 yes
08:06 mtj ok
08:07 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db adminlib  User adminlib-koha already exists.
08:07 Guest2777 but when I tried it earlier it gave permission error
08:07 mtj[…]s-maintlocalhost/
08:08 Guest2777 do you think this was crested successfully, because I was expecting additional messages if it was created correctly
08:08 Guest2777 That was the exact step I followed
08:09 Guest2777 the info on that page is very clear to follow and I did that successfully
08:11 dcook All right. I'm clearing out for the weekend. See most of you next week ;)
08:13 mtj did you restart mysql , after?
08:13 mtj did you use the correct password, from the file?
08:14 mtj did you get an error message after running the GRANT command?
08:14 Guest2777 I restarted mysql, granted all privileges, using the correct password in the file
08:14 Guest2777 no error, infact I can paste it for you here
08:14 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# mysql -uroot -p  Enter password:   Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.  Your MySQL connection id is 35  Server version: 5.1.66-0+squeeze1 (Debian)    Copyright (c) 2000, 2012, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.    Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its  affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective  owners.    Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to
08:15 mtj restaet *after* the GRANT command
08:15 Guest2777 ok, let me do it that way now, thanks for your help
08:15 mtj $ mysql -u root -p <password>
08:15 Guest2777 sorry, is flush privileges necessary
08:15 mtj mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'n4aSHUP04s1J32X5';
08:16 mtj sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
08:16 Guest2777 exactly, thanks
08:16 Guest2777 will do that now
08:17 mtj fyi, if you restart mysql after -  'flush privileges' is not needed...
08:19 Guest2777 done
08:19 Guest2777 do I try to create instance now
08:21 mtj yes
08:21 mtj $ sudo koha-create --create-db test4
08:21 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db adlibrary  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
08:22 Guest2777 and I did everything the way it should...
08:22 mtj $ ps -ef | grep mysql
08:23 mtj is mysql actually running?
08:23 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# ps -ef | grep mysql  root      4506     1  0 12:12 pts/1    00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe  mysql     4617  4506  0 12:12 pts/1    00:00:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/ --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock --port=3306  root      4618  4506  0 12:12 pts/1    00:00:00 logger -t mysqld -p daemon.error  root      4830  3169  0 12:16 pts/1    00:00:00 gr
08:24 rangi hmm
08:24 rangi you really shouldn't paste your password in here, it is publicly logged
08:24 * rangi will delete that from the logs
08:25 Guest2777 sorry about that
08:25 Guest2777 ok thanks
08:25 mtj thats ok :)
08:26 Guest2777 Well, let me contact my host on this permission thing, I will come back if they are able to fix it for me
08:26 mtj Guest2777, one moment...
08:26 Guest2777 I hope you guys will still be here to help
08:26 Guest2777 ok,
08:27 Guest2777 mtj, i am waiting for you
08:28 mtj $ mysql -u debian-sys-maint -pYOURPASSWORD
08:28 mtj does that work ^^
08:29 Guest2777 yes
08:29 Guest2777 it works
08:30 mtj wow, ok....
08:30 mtj $ sudo koha-create --create-db test5
08:30 mtj does that work? ^^
08:31 Guest2777 I have to exit mysql first?
08:31 mtj yes
08:32 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db test5  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
08:33 Guest2777 if it could connect to mysql, while giving permission error when using koha-create....
08:33 Guest2777 sorry, *why, not while
08:33 mtj hmm, sorry - i am out of ideas here… :/
08:34 mtj a very strange problem
08:34 Guest2777 mtj, you have really tried
08:34 Guest2777 I appreciate allyour help
08:34 Guest2777 let me contact my hos support, I will come back for the installation
08:34 mtj have you tried un-installing mysql-server package?
08:35 Guest2777 maybe, I have not done that
08:35 mtj $ sudo apt-get purge mysql-server
08:35 mtj $ sudo apt-get install mysql-server
08:35 Guest2777 ok will try that now, thanks
08:35 mtj but, please backup your databases 1st!
08:36 mtj if you have some important data on mysql, etc...
08:37 Guest2777 ok, that's what I am about to ask, because I also have dspace installed on the server
08:37 mtj ah, ok...
08:37 Guest2777 so can you help with the procedure to do the backup? sorry, I am new to all these
08:38 mtj dspace uses postgres, not mysql  - i think
08:38 Guest2777 ok, so no issues?
08:39 mtj hmm, i no nothing about dspace, sorry :/
08:40 Guest2777 no problem , i believe you are correct
08:41 mtj hmm, i have to go now sammy
08:42 Guest2777 Thanks a lot mtj, will try what you said
08:42 mtj ok, see you next time :p
08:42 Guest2777 thanks, have a great weekend
08:43 mtj try uninstall koha-common, then uninstall mysql-server...
08:44 mtj then, install koha-common, install mysql-server
08:44 mtj thats what i would do...
08:45 Guest2777 Thanks, will do just that
08:45 mtj $ sudo apt-get purge koha-common
08:45 mtj $ sudo apt-get purge mysql-server
08:46 mtj $ sudo apt-get install mysql-server
08:46 mtj $ sudo apt-get install koha-common
08:46 mtj .
08:46 Guest2777 thanks a lot for your great help
08:46 mtj ...that should fix everything :)
08:47 Guest2777 I appreciate all your help,
08:47 mtj no probs :)
08:47 mtj cya
08:47 Guest2777 have a great day
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09:38 vfernandes hi :)
09:39 vfernandes it's possible to have in patron cards more than 3 fields?
09:56 vfernandes no one?
09:56 wahanui i think no one is saying a word, soooooo
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10:01 Guest2803 Hello mtj, looks like you are still aorund
10:02 Guest2803 *around
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10:46 vfernandes patron cards supports chinese characters?
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11:43 MikeC Can someone please tell me how to change the administrative password? I installed Koha on an Azure VM as a "proof of concept." I promptly forgot about it, until a few days ago. Naturally, the company wants to use it in production, but I can't find the password. I have SSH and root access on the VM.
11:50 jwagner MikeC, if it's the Koha admin login, you should find it in the koha-conf.xml file. Depending on how you did your install, it may be under /koha-dev/etc directory
11:50 MikeC Let me check. Thanks
11:51 MikeC This file? /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
11:51 jwagner not sure, it depends on how you did your install, and I'm not familiar with the newer methods
11:51 MikeC Found it. Thanks! I don't remember typing that password! :)
11:52 jwagner but you can look there and try
11:52 jwagner look for lines starting <user> and <pass>
11:53 jwagner You can log into Koha with that, but only use it long enough to create a proper Koha staff user ID and password. Then work with that login. Don't use the admin login inside Koha for everyday work
11:54 MikeC good advice. Thanks.
11:54 MikeC At least I'm in now
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12:10 magnuse bonjour khall
12:11 khall good day magnuse!
12:12 magnuse khall: got your 9 screens fired up and ready to go? :-)
12:13 khall yep! I'm thinking about upgrading to 12 ; )
12:14 magnuse hehe
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12:32 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:33 tcohen morning #koha
12:39 tcohen @seen marcelr
12:39 huginn tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 19 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <marcelr> it is good that we do not have a dashboard on obsoleted patches..;)
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12:43 marcelr hi koha
12:43 marcelr tcohen: i see your adjustment
12:43 marcelr thanks
12:43 marcelr will take a look
12:44 tcohen np, I think we should remove outputing from that lib anyway
12:44 marcelr yes
12:44 tcohen but that would be another discussion
12:45 tcohen we have a deadline for 6554
12:45 tcohen heh
12:45 marcelr well..
12:46 tcohen ok, back to work, let me know anthing else I help with
12:47 marcelr thx
12:49 vfernandes patron cards supports chinese characters?
12:50 * tcohen hopes he can commit to the tab-completion work today
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12:59 HB Hey Koha
12:59 HB question ... is there a way to generate in the opac a list of the latest new works
13:00 HB like a list
13:01 tcohen 'latest' meaning?
13:02 tcohen in order of cataloguing?
13:02 HB well the ones that are added recently
13:02 HB the last 10 or 5
13:03 HB i did make a list manualy in the html but maybe it can be done automatic ...
13:04 jcamins HB: you cn do a search, or you can use a public report and javascript.
13:04 jcamins *can
13:04 HB ok i try to find out what that is :)
13:05 jcamins[…]g_in_last_30_days
13:05 jcamins That's a report that would work.
13:05 jcamins Then the javascript would be to fetch the JSON for that and display it attractively.
13:07 HB ok you got me some extra work :) thx
13:08 jcamins I don't have an example, but I think rangi might have done it.
13:10 jcamins Unfortunately, it's much too late for him, and the weekend.
13:11 HB ok np i have time ;)
13:11 vfernandes jcamins do you know if there is any way to patron cards support chinese characters?
13:13 jcamins No idea, sorry.
13:13 jcamins Probably not.
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13:25 tcohen jcamins, is there a list of blocker bugs for 3.12?
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13:26 gaetan_B hello
13:26 oleonard Hi gaetan_B
13:27 oleonard tcohen: Search Bugzilla?
13:28 oleonard Here's rangi's "FIXME NOW" saved search, for instance:[…]d=1&list_id=59894
13:28 oleonard ...although some of those are probably incorrectly marked as critical.
13:28 tcohen thanks oleonard
13:30 oleonard ...and others have been "critical" for looong time... Bug 4045
13:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
13:30 * oleonard wonders that happened to that "holds rewrite"
13:31 magnuse HB: rangi has a script here:[…]ly-acquired-books
13:32 magnuse but i think fetching json from a public report is the modern way to do it...
13:32 oleonard ...if JS-dependent, unfortunately.
13:33 HB ok
13:34 magnuse oleonard: yeah
13:35 magnuse it would be cool to have a built-in, configurable block/widget/thingy for "new stuff"...
13:35 tcohen we could have several widgets available
13:36 oleonard Link block1 to report1, block2 to report2, etc.
13:36 HB thx Magnuse ... have found some extra info on the web also i'm reading
13:36 oleonard Hey, we just re-implemented Drupal View blocks :)
13:37 magnuse yay! ;-)
13:42 tcohen oleonard, is it ok that the "refine your search" appears at the bottom of the opac on search result page?
13:43 tcohen also, will this beauty make it into 3.12?[…]20user%20page.png
13:44 oleonard That redesign is for (I hope) 3.14 tcohen
13:45 tcohen ok oleonard
13:45 wahanui i think oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
13:45 oleonard tcohen: Under what circumstances do you see "refine your search" at the bottom of the search result page?
13:46 tcohen im using the current master packages on a demo site
13:46 tcohen did a simple search
13:46 oleonard prog or ccsr theme?
13:46 tcohen ccsr
13:47 oleonard It doesn't look that way to me
13:48 tcohen ok, i'll dig a bit on it
13:55 vfernandes there is any TTF to add to PDFs to support chinese?
14:00 oleonard Man, opac-detail is a beast of a template
14:08 khall It took me an hour to switch from ie9 to ie8 in my win7 vm, but at least I managed to SO 8264!
14:09 oleonard Now clone that VM and update one of them back to ie9
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14:13 khall oleanard, it's the first time i've used ie for anything in years ; )
14:13 vfernandes guys anyone knows any ttf font file that aggregates all characters?
14:13 khall I have 32 bit and a 64 bit vm's for compiling, now the 32 has ie8 and the 64 has ie9. good enough for me
14:14 oleonard You're lucky you don't use any services that force you to.
14:14 oleonard Thankfully Overdrive updated their reporting interface and no longer require it
14:29 tcohen oleonard:[…]
14:30 oleonard tcohen: CSS customizations?
14:30 tcohen don't know?
14:31 tcohen i have color.css and opac.css in my settings, but those are the default ones i guess
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14:32 tcohen i just found another site that looks like mine
14:33 oleonard http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]
14:33 tcohen oh, thats pretty
14:33 oleonard Of course I don't know if they have customizations, but theirs matches what I see on my dev system
14:35 tcohen i've installed from packages and loaded/upgraded a 3.8 dump
14:35 oleonard I see what it is
14:36 oleonard You're missing the YUI grid CSS files, or they're in the wrong place.
14:36 oleonard Bug 9052?
14:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
14:38 tcohen ok, then is not me but anyone using packages
14:50 jcamins tcohen: rangi has a list FIXME NOW which is a good start.
14:51 jcamins oleonard: I was just struck by something about the login page: the error messages are styled differently than on other pages.
14:51 jcamins Red instead of yellow, and a much heavier font.
14:51 oleonard True
14:51 jcamins I think they're just fine as they are, but thought I would comment on that to you, in case you wanted them to be different.
14:52 oleonard I don't have a problem with it
14:53 jcamins Yay! No problems here!
14:53 * jcamins contemplates the label creator.
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14:58 oleonard The LTFL markup in opac-detail is not valid. I wonder if it breaks things for libraries who use it.
14:59 nengard I just found a sys pref that I never added to the manual ... anyone know when HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn was put in to Koha? I see references to it in 3.4 release notes
15:00 jcamins nengard: that sounds about right.
15:00 nengard well i was bound to miss a pref at some point :)
15:00 jcamins Oh, wait, no.
15:00 jcamins 3.2.0
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15:03 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:04 oleonard Hi mtompset
15:04 tcohen hi mtompset
15:04 mtompset MY brain isn't working right now. "Logging on to the catalog has not been enabled by the library." -- What system preference is that?
15:04 mtompset Greetings, oleonard and tcohen.
15:05 nengard i think it's opaclogin
15:05 jcamins I didn't even know that we had a syspref to disable logging in.
15:05 tcohen oleonard, do u know why sed-ing on the debian/rules instead of pointing stuff to the right place?
15:05 oleonard Sorry tcohen no idea
15:05 tcohen (context 9052, reset-fonts-grids.xss
15:05 tcohen cdd
15:05 tcohen )
15:05 magnuse tcohen: eythian might know
15:06 magnuse or liw :-)
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15:07 nengard What happens to borrower attributes when a patron is deleted?   ... are they lost forever?
15:07 mtompset Hmm... why is the search area blank and a log in required now?!
15:07 mtompset (QA system running squeeze-dev)
15:08 mtompset Something funky with the syspref settings, I think.
15:10 oleonard nengard: They must be if they're not in the table that stores attributes and they're not in deleted_borrowers
15:10 nengard that's what i think i'm seeing
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15:13 mtompset nengard++ # thanks, that was half of my problem. opacpublic was the other half.
15:14 nengard oops
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15:17 * cait waves from a train again
15:19 oleonard Hi cait
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15:22 cait hi oleonard :)
15:22 cait koha++
15:23 oleonard Did you do your presentation cait?
15:23 cait yes
15:23 cait :)
15:23 tcohen cait++
15:23 cait on my way home now
15:24 cait well almost home, viting friends
15:26 druthb cait++
15:26 druthb The presentation went well.  (No, I wasn't there.  But I know this.  It's cait, ergo, it went well.)
15:26 mtompset Greetings, cait and druthb.
15:27 druthb More formal logic:  cait does good presentations.  cait did this presentation. Therefore, it was a good presentation.
15:27 druthb QED
15:28 jcamins paul_p: Joubu: clrh: what is the license on Koha-RESTful?
15:29 clrh like koha I think jcamins
15:29 clrh we should add a little file ;)
15:29 jcamins Yes you should. :)
15:29 clrh jcamins: you can fork it on github I updated it yesterday
15:29 clrh Yep I will
15:29 clrh someday
15:29 jcamins We're discussing it on #evergreen, and that question came up.
15:29 paul_p hey ! jcamins++
15:29 jcamins I figured you would know. :)
15:30 clrh seems logical to me actually
15:30 paul_p I will say : GPL v3
15:30 paul_p (as new Koha things if I'm not wrong)
15:30 clrh jcamins: what was the true question behind ?
15:30 jcamins jeff: GPLv3
15:31 cait clrh: maybe but it soon? it has come up here some time ago too and people are careful about those things
15:31 jcamins clrh: Jeff is working on a RESTful API for Evergreen, and compatibility is a good thing.
15:31 jcamins But if the license were something incompatible with EG, it wouldn't be possible to share.
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15:32 cait shared_api++
15:32 clrh jcamins: you can add the gpl v3 and doing a pull request ;)
15:33 jcamins And, of course, I'd like my non-Koha projects to have as compatible an API as possible too:
15:33 clrh if it's urgent
15:33 jcamins clrh: no, not urgent.
15:33 clrh ok
15:33 cait clrh: I think someone else then the originator doing the statement would be a bit odd or not? hm
15:33 clrh but don't worry about that please ;)
15:33 clrh I have to leave so have a good evening day...
15:33 clrh week end holidays
15:33 cait bye clrh
15:34 jcamins Have a nice weekend. :)
15:34 cait have anice weekend
15:34 jeff also, i didn't want to read the code for inspiration/etc without seeing a license on it first. :-)
15:34 clrh jeff: it is just a miss not a won't do
15:34 clrh but good remark, I will do it
15:34 clrh bye
15:36 jeff clrh++
15:36 jeff jcamins++
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15:39 gaetan_B bye !
15:40 vfernandes guys anyone know any ttf to use as font on koha PDF that supports iso 8859 and chinese characters?
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15:40 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Add OPAC and Intranet NumbersPreferPhrase prefs
15:43 oleonard nengard: Can you give me an example of a library that has NovelistSelect enabled?
15:43 nengard lost gatos
15:43 nengard and our model
15:43 nengard let me get the urls
15:43 nengard
15:43 nengard and
15:43 nengard[…]koha/
15:44 oleonard nengard: What about LibraryThing? Do you know any with that?
15:44 nengard hmmmm
15:44 nengard not off the top of my head
15:44 nengard let me see if i can find some mention of it
15:44 oleonard Thanks
15:50 nengard not finding any
15:50 nengard asked on twitter :)
15:50 reiveune bye
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16:09 mtompset Greetings, bgkriegel and melia. :)
16:09 melia happy Friday morning!
16:09 oleonard ...or afternoon ...or evening ...or night
16:09 jcamins melia: ugh. How can you torment me like that? It's already past noon.
16:10 melia aaww
16:10 mtompset jcamins: Your day being unproductive?
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16:11 jcamins mtompset: not particularly, actually. I'm just doing labels, which is not one of my favorite tasks.
16:12 jcamins But I don't farm out any of the work for this client, so I'm sitting here, preparing labels.
16:12 mtompset Ah, the torment of doing a task you prefer not to do for a length of time you rather not consider.
16:12 jcamins Exactly.
16:13 bgkriegel hello mtompset :)
16:14 tcohen jcamins, will build-git-snapshot build HEAD?
16:15 jcamins tcohen: if that's what you have checked out, yes.
16:15 tcohen it will build what I've HEAD pointing to then
16:15 tcohen thanks
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17:09 jwagner Hrmm.  I just updated my community code dev server, and am getting this error when I try to search:
17:09 jwagner Undefined subroutine &C4::Search::uri_escape_utf8 called at /home/k32/kohaclone/C4/ line 1503.
17:09 jwagner Is that likely to be Bug 8686?
17:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8686 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Raise required version of URI::Escape to 3.31
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17:22 jcamins jwagner: that sounds like a reasonable assumption.
17:23 jwagner OK, thanks. I've asked our IT to update it.
17:36 jwagner Yep, that was it. Searching OK now....
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18:06 tcohen has anyone installed koha-common (from squeeze-dev) and enabled ccsr to see how it looks?
18:06 tcohen (it looks broken at least on my 12.04 dev server)
18:08 tcohen anyone with Debian Squeeze around?
18:08 cait-m_ tcohen - english?
18:08 cait-m_ templsted
18:08 tcohen there's a problem with some css path
18:08 cait-m_ templates
18:08 wahanui templates are written in Template::Toolkit.
18:08 tcohen not templates
18:08 cait-m_ typing bad on phone
18:09 tcohen the path to reset-fonts-grids.css and skin.css are wrong in the packages
18:09 tcohen the default ccsr theme setup
18:09 tcohen seems broken here
18:09 tcohen it is not the case for a standard or dev setp
18:09 tcohen its a packages problem
18:09 jcamins It works on 3.10.
18:10 tcohen (related to how libjs-yui puts stuff on the filesystem)
18:10 tcohen i'm testing master packages
18:11 jcamins Yeah, that's a good idea. But we can narrow the problem down to something new.
18:11 jcamins Because it works in 3.10.
18:11 tcohen bug 9052
18:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
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18:12 jcamins I see the problem.
18:13 jcamins prog is hardcoded.
18:13 jcamins It should be *
18:13 jcamins $(TMP)/usr/share/koha/opac​/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/opac.css
18:13 tcohen in debian/rules?
18:13 jcamins Yup.
18:13 jcamins Though I have to say rewriting the configuration files makes no sense to me.
18:14 jcamins If the other installation methods are putting the file in the wrong place, _that_ is what we should fix.
18:14 tcohen the difference is that we ship the yui libs
18:14 tcohen but packages make use of the system's one
18:14 jcamins Right, but if YUI has a standard directory structure, we should use it.
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18:35 ebegin bug #10083 - first patch ever... can you believe it !
18:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10083 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , In Transit string doesn't get translated in the staff interface
18:36 jcamins ebegin++
18:38 ebegin after 6 yrs or so in the Koha community. I guess the first one is the harder.
18:38 jcamins Yep. Now that you've done one, you'll be turning them out by the droves in no time. :)
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18:41 jeff having consulted the wiki, i think i have my answer, but just to confirm... does koha talk NCIPv1, especially the DCB3 profile (used for regional ILL / resource-sharing)?
18:42 jeff and a followup question, have libraries sought such support before? would it be a useful thing / is there a need?
18:47 oleonard jeff: Koha doesn't have any NCIP support
18:47 oleonard I thought something useful was going to come out of the FulfILLment project, but nothing yet.
18:48 jeff oleonard: thanks. and as for my followup question -- would any NCIPv1 support meet needs, or is nobody asking for it?
18:49 oleonard My library was interested in it at one time because we thought it would make for better integration into our statewide resource sharing system
18:50 oleonard To add it was too expensive, so we never pursued it.
18:50 oleonard ...and I don't think we've really missed the integration NCIP promised.
18:54 tcohen got my VPS, named debmaker ;)
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19:36 tcohen bug 10084
19:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10084 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , YUI path wrong in CCSR theme with packages
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20:01 Guest2843 Hello, has anyone tried these installation steps....  1.[…]installation.html
20:02 Guest2843 2.[…]LL.debian;hb=HEAD
20:02 jcamins Thomas's instructions need to be updated.
20:02 jcamins I'll let him know at some point.
20:03 jcamins The regular installation instructions are fine, of course, but I always recommend:
20:03 jcamins packages?
20:03 wahanui packages is at
20:03 jcamins ^^ those instructions
20:03 Guest2843 ok
20:03 Guest2843 thanks for your opinion, I have just be having some hard times installing this KOHA stuff
20:04 jcamins Koha isn't an acronym, so it needn't all be capitalized.
20:04 Guest2843 and when I discover those two, I decided to know if they work too?
20:04 jcamins And if you follow the instructions I pointed you at to the letter, they will work.
20:05 Guest2843 actually, I have tried but I always get stucked at the point of creating a koha instance
20:05 Guest2843 I have been getting permission denied error ,
20:05 jcamins What is the exact problem you have been encountering?
20:05 jcamins Ah.
20:06 jcamins You're running other services on the same server?
20:06 Guest2843 Yes, DSPACE
20:07 jcamins I don't think it will make any difference at all what set of instructions you follow.
20:07 Guest2843 I installed both koha and dspace on the server
20:07 jcamins Actually, there are two types of permission denied errors you could be getting.
20:07 jcamins What is the *exact* error message?
20:08 Guest2843 ok, will give you now
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20:08 Guest2843 ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
20:09 Guest2843 I have tried every step I googled and each time and grant all privileges and tred again, the error comes back
20:10 jcamins Why are you using debian-sys-maint?
20:10 Guest2843 well, I just see that, I only login through SSH to my server and run the steps
20:11 jcamins How did you create the instance?
20:11 Guest2843 so do I have to change user?
20:11 jcamins Yes, you should use a user that has permission to access your Koha database.
20:11 Guest2843 sudo koha-create --create-db ....
20:11 jcamins That's good.
20:11 jcamins That's the right way to do it.
20:12 Guest2843 but it keeps giving that error message
20:12 jcamins Right, because you hand-edited the configuration file.
20:12 Guest2843 ok, which of the config?
20:12 tcohen do u have mysql-server installed Guest2843 ?
20:12 jcamins Whichever one you edited. I have no idea.
20:12 Guest2843 yes
20:13 Guest2843 i have mysql-server installed
20:13 Guest2843 jcamins, I guess the initial conf file /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
20:14 Guest2843 that's the only one I know of
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20:14 jcamins Did you have someone else try to set up Koha for you at some point?
20:14 jcamins Because your Koha instance should never be set up to access the database with the debian-sys-maint user.
20:15 Guest2843 yes, at the initial stage which did not work because the zebra server refuses to start, that was the reason for the re-installation which I am now doing myself
20:15 jcamins I suggest you remove Koha entirely and start over, because that person seemingly screwed up your system.
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20:16 jcamins I trust you don't have data in the Koha installation?
20:16 Guest2843 No data, its a new installation
20:17 jcamins That's good.
20:17 Guest2843 But I have tried removing ans installing with sudo apt-get purge ... but all still gives the same error at the point of creating koha instance
20:18 jcamins Hm.
20:18 jcamins That's odd.
20:18 Guest2843 that's  why I am really confused
20:18 tcohen purge the mysql-server package too
20:18 jcamins Check the file /etc/mysql/koha.conf
20:18 Guest2843 ues, both
20:18 tcohen koha-common.cnf
20:19 jcamins That's what I meant.
20:19 Guest2843 sorry, I meant, Yes, both
20:19 jcamins /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf
20:19 jcamins Check that the password matches what's in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
20:19 tcohen bye jcamins, #koha, nice weekend for all
20:19 Guest2843 oh, ok, That's another good point, never checked anything like that
20:20 Guest2843 I will try and purge everything, re-install and then check the files you mention before I do anything else
20:21 jcamins That'd be my recommendation.
20:22 Guest2843 Thanks, I am preparing to do that now, will update you sir,
20:29 Guest2843 jcamins,pls I have a question?
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20:30 Guest2843 Do I reboot the server after purging the two before re-installing them again?
20:30 jcamins Nope.
20:30 jcamins Shouldn't be necessary.
20:31 Guest2843 ok, thanks, I am re-installing them now
20:33 ebegin Hey guys, I have a question about how your are diff-ing your .po files... since a single modification changes so many lines in it, it's quite hard to quickly know what have changed
20:34 jcamins ebegin: I don't think anyone uses diff for PO files. They can be merged using POedit or the like.
20:34 jcamins Or Pootle.
20:35 Guest2843 Hello jcamins, now I am on installing koha-common, it displays that Configuring koha-common  ...   koha-common upgrade actions required
20:35 jcamins Right.
20:35 Guest2843 which means the old was not completely purged?
20:35 jcamins No.
20:35 Guest2843 ok
20:36 jcamins It displays that whenever you install, because you might be upgrading from an old installation.
20:36 Guest2843 thanks for that... I am continuing now
20:36 ebegin thanks jcamins. it make sens
20:36 ebegin e
20:37 Guest2843 I got this error:
20:37 Guest2843 Unpacking koha-common (from .../koha-common_3.08.11-1_all.deb) ...  Processing triggers for man-db ...  Setting up koha-common (3.08.11-1) ...  insserv: warning: script 'koha-zebraqueue-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides
20:37 jcamins That's fine.
20:37 Guest2843 so koha is installed now?
20:37 jcamins packages?
20:37 wahanui i heard packages was at
20:38 jcamins ^^ those instructions will tell you what to do next
20:38 jcamins (but make sure you check that /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf file)
20:38 Guest2843 yes, I am following the instruction...
20:38 Guest2843 yes, that's what I want to check now and I will inform you before I take the next step
20:39 jcamins You don't need to.
20:40 jcamins Basically you should do as much as you can on your own because I have my own job to do.
20:40 rangi i wonder if someone should send the call for proposals to code4lib and ngc4lib too
20:40 jcamins Sounds like a good idea.
20:41 Guest2843 i know sir, thanks a lot, I will do my best
20:41 Guest2843 I have checked the two files and the contents are the same
20:45 Guest2843 this is what I get now:
20:45 Guest2843 sudo koha-create --create-db khlibrary  User khlibrary-koha already exists.
20:45 Guest2843 is this the right response?
20:45 jcamins That means that either you'll have to do some manual cleanup, or choose a different instance name.
20:45 jcamins I suggest choosing a differenct instance name, like khlib
20:47 Guest2843 Now I got to the point again:
20:47 Guest2843 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db khlib  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
20:47 jcamins Hm.
20:47 jcamins I have no idea what the problem is, but it sounds like your system is completely messed up.
20:47 Guest2843 I guess as much too
20:48 jcamins If you are able to log in to MySQL you could set up a new user with full privileges on everything and put that one in /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf
20:52 Guest2843 yes I can login to MYSQL
20:53 Guest2843 I will try that now
20:55 rangi we should use more MARC
20:55 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800
20:55 jcamins less marc
21:05 Guest2843 jcamins, thanks I have created new user and added it to /etc/mysql/koha-common
21:06 Guest2843 do I bow change to this user and try creating new instance?
21:06 jcamins Just try running koha-create
21:06 Guest2843 ok, thanks
21:07 jcamins You may have to come up with a new name, because of the "User khlib-koha already exists" issue.
21:07 Guest2843 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db kohlib  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'khuser'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
21:08 jcamins And you set the user and password?
21:08 Guest2843 that's the new user I just created
21:08 Guest2843 yes I did
21:08 jcamins Okay, in that case all I can conclude is that you have some other problem with your system.
21:09 Guest2843 yes, I will ask my host to re-install the server for me, that way I can be sure that everything will be fresh
21:11 Guest2843 Thanks so much jcamins, I really appreciate all the help you have given me
21:11 jcamins Good luck.
21:12 Guest2843 I also appreciate everyone that has helped me since yesterday on this forum, Thanks to you all and have a wonderful weekend
21:12 Guest2843 I will be back tomorrow after my server has been installed fresh
21:13 jcamins Just a reminder that it's the weekend tomorrow.
21:13 Guest2843 oh, so this forum do not work on weekends?
21:14 jcamins Most don't.
21:14 jcamins No one here gets paid to be here.
21:14 jcamins People are on IRC when they are on IRC.
21:14 jcamins Often that is while they are at the office.
21:14 jcamins Therefore, there are fewer people around during the weekend.
21:14 Guest2843 ok, no issues, at least I I appreciate that fact that some people can helpothers in need, God will bless you all
21:15 Guest2843 I have learnt many things these two days
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21:15 Guest2843 I also konw I can still access the logs in case I need some other help
21:15 Guest2843 thanks a lot
21:16 jcamins rangi++ # nice e-mail
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21:31 tcohen @later tell eythian: take a look at bug 10084
21:31 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
21:32 rangi joubu++ #doing qa
21:35 rangi khall++ #beating me by 3 in sign offs
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