IRC log for #koha, 2013-04-14

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00:28 jcamins Wow.
00:28 jcamins Lots of e-mail.
00:36 tcohen where u offline today?
00:37 jcamins Yup.
00:37 jcamins Book fair!
00:37 tcohen s/h//
00:37 jcamins The last day is tomorrow. :(
00:39 tcohen u need to enjoy it then
00:39 tcohen will go out tonight?
00:40 jcamins We just got back.
00:40 jcamins Time for dinner, then sleep.
00:41 tcohen i was waiting for my gf to be ready to go out
00:41 tcohen got time to send two patches
00:41 tcohen heh
00:41 jcamins Hehe.
00:41 tcohen *and she's not ready yet*
00:43 tcohen ok, pizza party, here we go, good night jcamins !
00:44 jcamins Good night. :)
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03:02 jcamins Are you kidding me?
03:03 jcamins "Hi, I got an RFP, and I don't feel like answering it. Please do my work for me."
03:15 bag evening
03:15 bag oh jcamins that's funny
04:00 jeff jcamins: there was a pretty good tradition on usenet for people who were quite obviously asking homework questions of a newsgroup... try to give answers that should be glaringly obviously wrong without being noticed by the requestor
04:07 bag :)
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06:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #295 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:55 * magnuse waves
07:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #295: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/295/
07:03 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9571 [Alternate] Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
07:03 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 9571 - Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
07:03 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9838: fix on 04patron_status.t
07:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9571 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
07:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9838 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , SIP tests : fix in 04patron_status.t
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07:13 * magnuse waves
07:14 cait hey magnuse :)
07:14 cait hi #koha
07:14 magnuse is there some page somewhere that lists all the APIs and protocols koha supports?
07:14 magnuse it would be quite an impressice list...
07:15 rangi no but we should make one
07:15 rangi hi cait and magnuse
07:15 magnuse i'll start one on the wiki then
07:15 magnuse and hi rangi
07:17 cait magnuse++ :)
07:29 magnuse it's a start... http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]supported_by_Koha
07:29 rangi cool :)
07:30 cait :)
07:30 cait CAS maybe?
07:30 magnuse sure
07:31 magnuse hm, should that page only show things where koha acts as the server?
07:31 magnuse or should it include the apis we get information *from*, for example for enhanced content?
07:31 cait I added 2 :)
07:31 magnuse yay
07:31 cait hm
07:36 jeff heh. i just did a survey of that kind of thing for Evergreen.
07:41 magnuse jeff: is it available anywhere?
07:42 magnuse rangi: would the x.somenumber thing you did for authentication qualify for "my" list?
07:43 rangi x509?
07:44 rangi client side certs .. not really its an authentication method
07:44 rangi we should have a list of those too
07:44 rangi LDAP
07:44 rangi CAS
07:44 rangi x509 and persona
07:44 jeff magnuse: this is some of the research i was doing to prep for the talk I gave at the Evergreen conference yesterday: http://goo.gl/ZbMQ4 and this is a copy of my slides: http://goo.gl/0ya0K
07:44 magnuse jeff: very cool, thanks!
07:45 cait rangi: I added persona :)
07:45 jeff and of course gmcharlt put out a similar blog post calling for API users to stand and be counted: http://evergreen-ils.org/blog/?p=966
07:45 cait to the list
07:46 rangi cait: maybe we should split it into types of API
07:46 cait hm?
07:47 jeff i've had a few conversations in here about koha's restful and rest-style API support, but i think today is the first i've come across koha-restful, http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha-restful;a=summary -- anyone know what license that is under? there doesn't seem to be any license in the repo or in the source files.
07:47 rangi authentication methods are quite different
07:47 rangi to data methods
07:48 rangi ah yep it is cool
07:48 cait not sure I understand what you mean
07:48 cait *confused*
07:48 rangi jeff: it'd have to be gpl3+ or compatible, or you cant actually use it with Koha, but yeah they should put a license statement
07:48 magnuse jeff: i woul assume the license is compatible with koha, but you'd better ask paul_p or maybe clrh when they are around
07:49 jeff i made a similar assumption, but i'll try to ask and perhaps it can be made more explicit. :-)
07:50 rangi yeah
07:52 magnuse jeff++
07:55 magnuse rangi: what was that electronic resource thing you were working on again?
07:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #94 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:56 jeff myself and some others in the Evergreen community have started hacking on a proof of concept RESTful api for library systems with a pluggable implementation layer, similar to SIPServer (which I know has since been forked for inclusion in Koha). very very early experimental stages, but the idea is to have it be callable by mod_perl on an evergreen system or plack/etc on a koha system: https://github.com/tadl/library-rest-api
07:56 jeff ugh. that was wordy. please let me know i truncated before the url. :-)
07:57 jeff now that i've seen koha-restful, once i get some license clarification (and hey, library-rest-api has no license specified -- oops!) i may use it for some additional inspiration.
07:58 magnuse jeff: the url worked nicely
07:59 magnuse sounds like an interesting idea!
07:59 rangi magnuse: opds
08:00 magnuse ah, thanks
08:01 magnuse no bug for it yet, though?
08:02 magnuse jeff: i love slide #28 - Library Technology Standards v.s. Everything Else
08:03 magnuse well, it's sad, really, but a nice visualisation of it...
08:05 cait slide? where? :)
08:05 jeff thanks. as noted, this representation of the idea came from somewhere else... i think a link pasted in #code4lib months back to someone's photo of a whiteboard sketch. not certain. :-)
08:05 magnuse hehe
08:05 jeff cait: from earlier: magnuse: this is some of the research i was doing to prep for the talk I gave at the Evergreen conference yesterday: http://goo.gl/ZbMQ4 and this is a copy of my slides: http://goo.gl/0ya0K
08:06 cait oh thx
08:06 cait missed that scrolling back up
08:11 cait hm bug 6274
08:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6274 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Permanent storage of user-uploaded files
08:11 cait can i close this?
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08:13 cait hi ndroftheline
08:13 * magnuse discovers http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/index.asp
08:14 ndroftheline hail, friends! i'd like to get koha installed on fedora 18, has anybody in here done that?
08:14 cait not me, but someone certainly has
08:15 cait did you check the wiki?
08:15 cait wiki?
08:15 wahanui well, wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org
08:20 ndroftheline woops, sorry - got distracted installing something else
08:21 ndroftheline huh...there are instructions for fedora core 7
08:21 ndroftheline has the install process not changed since fc7?
08:22 cait probably noone updated it since then
08:22 cait and so it might not be best to follow that
08:22 cait not sure how different fedora is to other linux distributions
08:23 cait we have debian packages now that also work for ubuntu, so that's the route most people go
08:24 ndroftheline oh, cool! are those in the debian repos?
08:24 magnuse ndroftheline: yup
08:24 ndroftheline nice! you obviously don't have a packager for fedora yet, right?
08:24 magnuse ndroftheline: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
08:24 magnuse ndroftheline: nope
08:25 ndroftheline hrm...maybe i will package you for fedora
08:25 magnuse that would be cool
08:25 ndroftheline yeah but i'm still something of a noob packager and i'm working on kiwix first, but koha is definitely on my list of must-haves, so i'll at least get it installed
08:31 ndroftheline where can i find your release tree? i need a tarball package with a specific version to package it
08:31 ndroftheline oh nvm got it
08:32 cait ah not yet in the debian repos yet I think?
08:32 cait but packages?
08:32 wahanui well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
08:33 cait and http://debian.koha-community.org
08:33 ndroftheline thanks! but i needed the tarball, and i already found it (:
08:33 ndroftheline http://download.koha-community[…]ha-3.10.04.tar.gz
08:35 magnuse ndroftheline: getting all the dependencies installed will probably be the fun part...
08:36 ndroftheline oh yes i'm sure that will be the fun part
08:36 ndroftheline sounds like there are a few weird perl modules required that peple have trouble with sometimes...?
08:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #94: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/94/
08:36 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9952: translation of the "tab 0" in MARC detail
08:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9571 [Alternate] Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
08:36 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 9571 - Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
08:36 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9838: fix on 04patron_status.t
08:36 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9609: Rebuilding zebra reports double number of exported records.
08:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9952 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , MARC tab: tab 0 is not translated correctly
08:36 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9947 - Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield
08:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9571 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
08:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 9535 - Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
08:36 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7449: billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup
08:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9838 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , SIP tests : fix in 04patron_status.t
08:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Rebuild zebra reports double numbers for exported records with -z option
08:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9947 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield
08:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9535 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
08:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7449 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup
08:36 cait where weird probably means something only libraries are using :P
08:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #296 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:39 ndroftheline wow you guys are at 3.8 in unstable? awesome.
08:39 magnuse no, 3.8 is very stable
08:39 magnuse 3.10 is the current stable branch
08:40 magnuse 3.8 is oldstable
08:40 magnuse 3.12 is due out in ~1.5 months
08:40 cait may 22nd
08:41 cait ndroftheline: we are still doign bugfix releases for 3.8 and 3.10 - what you saw was jenkins running the tests as rangi pushed some bug fixes to those brnaches
08:41 ndroftheline oooooh misunderstood your versioning
08:41 magnuse hm, isn't Bug 10041 an enh? or do we give special treatment to improvements to the packages?
08:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations
08:42 cait magnuse: i would say leave it :)
08:42 magnuse cool
08:42 magnuse i hope i can find the time to test it
08:42 cait adding additional scripts seems pretty save, jcamins can decide
08:42 magnuse yeah, there should be no side effects
08:45 cait .... and it is kind of a bug fix...
08:46 magnuse yeah, kind of :-)
08:47 magnuse and i'd love to see it get in to 3.12, dont get me wrong :-)
08:49 cait heh
08:59 magnuse does anyone have an idea about how much of the intranet is problematic in internet explorer?
09:02 * jeff read that as "internet"
09:02 jeff very different scope.
09:02 magnuse hehe, slightly...
09:03 cait magnuse: not much but a bit
09:03 cait drag and drop of baskets into a basket group does not work
09:04 cait but there is a work around doing it from the basket instead
09:04 cait oh
09:04 cait and we had libraries reporting problems with being ogged out all the time
09:04 magnuse ouch
09:05 jeff were their local clocks off by a large amount?
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09:06 jeff ie uses absolute cookie expiry times vs firefox (and i think all others) use an offset calculated from the server time and the cookie expiry time.
09:06 jeff of course, if it was multiple libraries... perhaps unlikely that all of their clocks were off -- unless it was all the same set of server-side systems and THEIR clocks were off...
09:07 cait no I don#t think that was the problem :) but good to know
09:08 magnuse i have one customer reporting that she gets logged out when she tried to save sysprefs
09:08 magnuse i have not had time to investigate the details yet
09:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #296: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/296/
09:15 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9609: Rebuilding zebra reports double number of exported records.
09:15 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9947 - Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield
09:15 jenkins_koha * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 9535 - Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
09:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Rebuild zebra reports double numbers for exported records with -z option
09:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9947 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield
09:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9535 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
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11:17 gaetan_B hi cait :) are you around ?
11:18 cait yep
11:18 cait how is things?
11:18 gaetan_B cait: good !
11:19 gaetan_B week end is friday / saturday so i am working here
11:19 gaetan_B i wanted to ask you about the translation project
11:19 cait ah
11:19 gaetan_B do you think we could create it today ?
11:19 cait druthb hasn#t come back to you?
11:19 gaetan_B no
11:19 gaetan_B do you know how to create one ?
11:19 cait hm
11:20 cait the problem is we can't totally do it without druthb probably
11:20 cait becasue the scripts need to be adapted
11:20 cait but if you give me a language code...
11:20 cait we could try and maybe change the code later on?
11:20 cait if there is a need to?
11:20 gaetan_B yep, i'm giving them the translation training tomorrow actually
11:21 gaetan_B the language code should be ku-sor
11:21 cait let me try something
11:21 gaetan_B for Kurdish Sorani
11:22 gaetan_B ideally we should add something that means it's the kurdish script and not the latin one, which can also be used for this language
11:22 gaetan_B but since we probably won't have another project in kurdish with the latin script
11:22 gaetan_B i guess it's not super necessary ;)
11:22 cait and the descripton?
11:23 cait ok, ruth might kill me, but I am adding some things to pootle right now
11:23 gaetan_B :D
11:23 gaetan_B i'll take all the blame required
11:23 gaetan_B what do you mean by description ?
11:23 cait ok, we got a language now and I made you admin for it ;)
11:23 cait so you can take the blame
11:24 gaetan_B yeah :)
11:25 gaetan_B hmm can't find it on pootle
11:25 cait not done yet :)
11:26 gaetan_B ah ok sorry :)
11:26 cait i have to add a project now I think
11:26 cait trying to figure that out
11:27 cait try now :)
11:28 cait can you upload the files yourself?
11:28 cait and do youneed 3.10 too?
11:29 gaetan_B still nothing, i need a 3.10 project yes
11:29 gaetan_B actually i don't even know how to generate the files !
11:29 cait ah ok
11:29 cait let's do one after the other then
11:30 cait gaetan_B: it shoudl show up in the list now for you
11:30 cait Iwill try to generate files
11:30 cait one second
11:30 cait hm should be baed on the latest 3.10.x version I think?
11:31 gaetan_B yes they will have 3.10.04
11:31 gaetan_B i wanted to put 3.12, so that they have all the latest improvements
11:31 gaetan_B but we had to install this week so
11:31 gaetan_B i still only see the weird kurdish project that only has a gnome terminology file attached to it
11:35 cait hm where are you looking?
11:35 cait http://translate.koha-community.org/ku_SOR/312/
11:37 cait gaetan_B: uploading now
11:38 cait opac is up
11:38 cait hope the files is ok, you will have to check :)
11:41 gaetan_B ok i will check
11:41 cait http://translate.koha-community.org/ku_SOR/310/
11:41 cait and it does show up for me now:
11:41 cait http://translate.koha-community.org/
11:47 gaetan_B ah it does show up for me too now, thanks :)
12:06 gaetan_B cait: ok i have to disappear because of vpn troubles, gthanks a lot and see you later !
12:56 jcamins cait++ # for bug wrangling
12:56 cait hey
12:56 cait sadly only 40 closed
12:57 cait and lots of inboxes filled
12:58 jcamins Only 40?
12:58 jcamins Huh.
12:58 cait well i filed some more
12:58 cait so only 40 down
13:04 magnuse "only" 40?!?
13:04 magnuse cait++
13:05 cait you already gave me karma for that yesterday!
13:05 magnuse but you did more today!
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13:55 * cait waves to #koha
13:55 cait tcohen_hangover: long night? :)
13:55 jcamins Hehe.
13:55 tcohen_hangover lots of fernet cait
13:56 cait fernet? :)
13:57 jcamins cait: black licorice-flavored listerine.
13:57 cait that sounds unpleasant
13:57 * cait hands tcohen_hangover a glass of water and aspirin
13:58 cait tcohen_hangover: I filed just the right bugs for people with hangover... lots of string changes! :)
13:58 cait ;)
13:59 tcohen_hangover heh
14:02 tcohen_hangover thanks cait
14:02 cait I am tempted to do some patches too...
14:02 cait I have almost no commits in this version :(
14:03 tcohen_hangover this sunday i'm full of family events
14:03 cait :)
14:03 tcohen_hangover wont be reading bugs
14:04 cait that's how it should be :)
14:04 tcohen_hangover i'll leave them to you
14:04 cait hehe thx
14:05 cait tcohen_hangover: can you help me with something?
14:05 tcohen_hangover ?
14:05 cait I always fail to grep right :)
14:06 cait I want to look for N° in the koha file
14:06 cait s
14:06 tcohen grep -R "N°" * ?
14:08 cait oh
14:08 cait that output looks scary :)
14:08 cait hm
14:08 tcohen grep -R "N°" * | grep -v -e blib
14:08 cait possible that is not quite right?
14:09 cait i get loooots of lines
14:09 cait i think it looks for every N
14:09 cait not recognizing the ^
14:09 cait °
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14:10 cait hi bgkriegel :)
14:10 bgkriegel hi cait
14:11 bgkriegel a sunny sunday here
14:11 cait native english speakers around?
14:11 cait here too :) second day of spring :)
14:11 tcohen gotta leave cait, bgkriegel can help u, but I think that grep is right
14:11 tcohen byee bgkriegel cait
14:11 bgkriegel @wunder cordoba, argentina
14:11 huginn bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 23.0°C (11:00 AM ART on April 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
14:11 bgkriegel bye cohen
14:12 cait bye tcohen and thx :)
14:12 bgkriegel testing Bug 10041
14:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations
14:12 cait i have used the search on git.koha-community.org now and found a lot of occurences
14:12 cait bgkriegel: cool )
14:12 cait jcamins: around?
14:13 jcamins bug 10023
14:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10023 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , degree notation in acq
14:16 cait so to fix or not to fix?
14:16 cait and what should we replace N° with?
14:18 * cait pokes jcamins
14:19 jcamins I thought we were replacing it with #?
14:19 cait http://forum.wordreference.com[…]read.php?t=264328
14:19 cait guess we could also do No.
14:20 magnuse how well does the translate process handle # for "number"?
14:20 jcamins Maybe ask someone who doesn't regularly write both "No." and "Nr."?
14:20 cait it seems # is AE
14:21 cait magnuse: i guess handling No. would be kinder
14:21 jcamins What does AE mean?
14:22 cait american english
14:22 jcamins Ah.
14:22 jcamins Right.
14:22 cait well American English obviously
14:23 cait would No. be bad?
14:24 magnuse cait: i would guess so too
14:24 jcamins I don't have a problem with it.
14:24 cait because you don't really care ;)
14:24 jcamins But, as I said, I'm the wrong person to ask.
14:24 jcamins Right.
14:24 cait well
14:24 cait I am going to provide a patch
14:24 magnuse If it was Nr. i wouldn't have to translate it :-)
14:24 cait everyone disagreeing can do the same :)
14:25 magnuse yay!
14:25 cait magnuse: I guess that's out of question ... but same here :)
14:26 magnuse :-)
14:27 cait oh
14:27 cait greetings to the family :) before I forget!
14:29 cait hm Basket (No.)
14:29 cait Basket# ?
14:29 cait seems what we use more
14:29 cait for an easy bug this is quite confusing :)
14:39 cait hm git bz doesn't like N°
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14:49 cait bug 7892
14:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7892 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , on staged marc record management open in tab
14:49 cait would someone be opposed to add a target="_blank" there?
14:56 * jcamins wouldn't.
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15:01 gp5st i have a db dumb from a 3.0 install. i'm installing from the repos right now on an ubuntu 12.04 machine. can i just import my db dump?
15:03 cait hm
15:03 jcamins gp5st: yes, then you'll need to run a few upgrade scripts.
15:03 cait i think you can - but there is a script that has to be run
15:03 cait ah :) listen to jcamins :)
15:03 jcamins koha-update-schema or something like that and koha-upgrade-to-3.4 or something like that.
15:04 jcamins (I always just do /sbin/koha-<tab><tab> so that I get a list of my options, and identify the name that way)
15:04 gp5st cool, thanks jcamins
15:08 gp5st between the not so nice inet here and the headache of ubuntu updates, going from 8.04 to 12.04 wasn't happening. i wiped and put 12.04 on here and am using the ppa to install and update from now on
15:08 gp5st before i was just pulling from git
15:09 gp5st infact i was pulling from koha.org when that was a thing
15:09 gp5st idk much about the split, but at least there is still an open source version
15:09 jcamins gp5st: Koha has improved a lot since then.
15:10 jcamins I think you're going to be very happy. :)
15:10 gp5st cool:)
15:12 gp5st we're a church library
15:12 gp5st and the girls working keep looking on the docs and telling me about features and what not that don't exist
15:12 gp5st in the version we had
15:12 gp5st so i've finally gotten around to updating this system
15:31 cait :)
15:32 cait yeah, koha has come a long way since then
15:32 cait getting better every day :)
15:35 gp5st :)
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16:01 cait wb tcohen? :)
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17:11 cait hi dpavlin :)
17:17 cait aha
17:19 cait hmmm
18:07 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:07 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (8:00 PM CEST on April 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
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18:35 mib_c6kjzr hey guys. anyone here had any experience using koha with marc records in arabic?
18:36 cait hi mib_c6kjzr
18:36 cait kind of
18:36 cait I have some experience with hebrew and we have loaded arabic for testing
18:36 cait do you have a problem?
18:36 mib_c6kjzr cool, we were having a few issues with ours. we've managed to load the arabic records in and are able to browse
18:37 mib_c6kjzr however we have a problem with the search
18:37 mib_c6kjzr most of the searches we perform are returning way too many results
18:37 mib_c6kjzr we have around 6040 arabic records. and alot of searches just return all 6040
18:38 cait you need to install koha with icu indexing
18:38 cait how did you install koha?
18:38 cait Koha with ICU will fix that problem, it#s an installation option when using the tarball but it can also be used when you installed from the packages
18:38 mib_c6kjzr just using the 'apt-get insall koha' on a debian box. then followed the web installer
18:39 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]of_Arabic_records
18:39 cait ^^ this should help :)
18:39 mib_c6kjzr ok great!
18:39 mib_c6kjzr thanks for the link
18:39 mib_c6kjzr will have a good read of this
18:39 cait no problem, hope it works
18:40 cait if you run into problems asking on the mailing list would be good - I know we have some active arabic users that are not using the chat
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20:20 magnuse cait: 20 degrees?!?
20:20 magnuse @wunder boo
20:20 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on April 14, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Falling).
20:20 cait hm?
20:20 cait I see 5
20:20 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:20 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.3°C (10:15 PM CEST on April 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
20:20 cait ah
20:21 cait yeah pretty spring like out there
20:21 magnuse <huginn> cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C
20:21 magnuse that was at 8
20:21 magnuse here too, actually
20:21 * magnuse can hear the snow melting
20:23 cait :)
20:23 cait updating the german web installer files
20:24 magnuse cait++ for doing patches too
20:24 cait LOL
20:24 magnuse is there a lot of updating needed?
20:24 cait don't play with the karma!
20:24 cait so far not
20:24 cait mostly translating the permissons
20:24 magnuse ah
20:24 cait and user flags
20:25 magnuse didn't we do that?
20:25 magnuse maybe not
20:25 cait and I changed some existing translations
20:25 cait hm oh
20:25 cait maybe we did
20:25 cait I rmeembered we did notices
20:25 magnuse i'll have a look at your patch when you are done and see what is missing for norwegian :-)
20:25 cait lazy :)
20:25 magnuse that's me!
20:25 cait i saw quite a few normarc bugs in bugzilla
20:25 cait can you review them sometime?
20:25 magnuse just need impatience and hubris now...
20:26 magnuse yeah, i will...
20:26 magnuse some time...
20:26 magnuse actually, i hope i can do some patches for them before it's too late
20:26 cait bug 9414
20:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9414 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Fix sample letters for German and Norwegian
20:26 cait we did that :)
20:26 magnuse yup
20:26 magnuse i thought there was one with permissions, but i might remember wrong
20:27 cait not sure, I only remember typing the notices
20:27 magnuse ah, ok
20:27 magnuse my teflon coated brain is playing tricks with me then :-)
20:27 cait maybe we wanted to wait until plugins was pushed
20:27 cait because that added 4
20:27 magnuse yeah, actually i think so
20:27 cait see
20:27 cait your brian is fine :)
20:27 magnuse nope
20:28 magnuse it's slow and unreliable
20:28 cait that sounds human
20:29 magnuse :-)
20:29 * magnuse kind of hopes his brain is human ;-)
20:30 magnuse ish
20:30 magnuse oh well, time to let that poor brain dream a little - see ya!
20:31 cait :)
20:31 cait sleep tight
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21:14 mib_n4eweq hi can anyone please suggest how I could add Arabic/indic keyboard. I am new to Koha, Many thanks
21:14 jcamins mib_n4eweq: you can just change your keyboard setting.
21:16 mib_n4eweq is there any guide lines to keyboard setting.  could I add a tool like yamli for arabic?
21:17 jcamins I don't know anything about that, sorry.
21:17 jcamins Probably.
21:17 jcamins Koha is open source, and you can add custom Javascript.
21:17 jcamins jquery library?
21:17 wahanui jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library
21:18 jcamins ^^ take a look at that page, I think it might have something about custom keyboards
21:18 mib_n4eweq thanks. Is there a list of koha arabic users?
21:18 jcamins koha users worldwide?
21:18 jcamins koha users?
21:18 wahanui koha users is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_Users_Worldwide
21:19 jcamins ^^ you could take a look at that page
21:19 jcamins Lots of people won't be listed, of course, but some will.
21:23 * cait waves at jcamins
21:24 cait mib_n4eweq: there is also the sreenkeyboard
21:24 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]C_screen_keyboard
21:40 mib_n4eweq hi can anyone please suggest how I could add Arabic/indic keyboard. I am new to Koha, Many thanks
21:41 mib_n4eweq thanks.
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22:25 eythian hi
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23:45 * jcamins contemplates grapefruits and cookies.
23:54 jcamins Something like this: http://www.eatori.com/2013/04/[…]late-cookies.html

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