| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:06 |
|
jcamins |
bag: FYI, the latest blog post on ByWater's blog has broken images. |
| 00:06 |
|
bag |
ok thanks |
| 01:22 |
|
jcamins |
Our documention on the build_holds_queue.pl cronjob is spectacularly poor. |
| 01:26 |
|
jcamins |
How does one get a hold to show up in the holds queue? |
| 02:01 |
|
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wizzyrea joined #koha |
| 02:02 |
|
jcamins |
Hmm. I guess wizzyrea probably isn't really here. |
| 02:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
I am :) |
| 02:03 |
|
* jcamins |
waits, hopefully, to be contradicted. |
| 02:03 |
|
jcamins |
:D |
| 02:03 |
|
jcamins |
Yay! |
| 02:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
sup? |
| 02:03 |
|
jcamins |
How do I get something to appear in the holds queue? |
| 02:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
you mark it waiting |
| 02:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
no sorry |
| 02:03 |
|
jcamins |
Oooh. Waiting! |
| 02:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
sorry sorry |
| 02:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
you have a hold on an available item |
| 02:03 |
|
jcamins |
Right. |
| 02:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
you pobably need to turn on "allow on shelf holds" |
| 02:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
just makes it easier. |
| 02:04 |
|
jcamins |
Right. |
| 02:05 |
|
jcamins |
Hold added on available item. |
| 02:05 |
|
jcamins |
I ran the build_hold_queue.pl cronjob, but apparently there's more to it than that. |
| 02:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
hm no |
| 02:06 |
|
jcamins |
There isn't? |
| 02:06 |
|
jcamins |
Drat. |
| 02:06 |
|
jcamins |
That's what I was afraid you were going to say. |
| 02:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
is it pre-patch or post patch |
| 02:06 |
|
jcamins |
Holds to pull does exactly what I expect it to. |
| 02:06 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7938' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e59598dfad9cd2d44> / Bug 7938: Added description of -v/--verbose parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3f704b1c6a66ba0db> / Merge branch 'bug_9660' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]itdiff;h=de3060e2 |
| 02:07 |
|
jcamins |
Either way. |
| 02:07 |
|
wahanui |
hmmm... either way is workable though imho |
| 02:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
no it's not holds to pull |
| 02:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's holds queue |
| 02:07 |
|
jcamins |
Right. |
| 02:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
holds to pull is generated on the fly |
| 02:07 |
|
jcamins |
Holds to pull shows the items that I believe should appear on the holds queue. |
| 02:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
is this install public? |
| 02:08 |
|
jcamins |
Yes. |
| 02:08 |
|
jcamins |
I'll give you a password. |
| 02:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
coo |
| 02:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
(because I swear, it worked for me ^.^) |
| 02:09 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1123 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
ok that looks alright to me - checking automaticitemreturn |
| 02:12 |
|
jcamins |
Oh, did I misunderstand the bug? |
| 02:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
run the build_hold_queue please? |
| 02:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 02:13 |
|
jcamins |
Done. |
| 02:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh, we are going to need to set a diff current location for that |
| 02:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
currently that hold is dallas:dallas |
| 02:14 |
|
jcamins |
Okay, so it's not supposed to appear in the holds queue? |
| 02:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's perfect right now |
| 02:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
but the problem is when you have a different holding branch |
| 02:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
it should (will) appear in the queue for the home branch |
| 02:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
with atomaticitemreturn ON |
| 02:15 |
|
jcamins |
Ummm... |
| 02:15 |
|
jcamins |
I'm confused. |
| 02:15 |
|
jcamins |
The item is Dallas-Centerville. |
| 02:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
it wasn't when I just checked it |
| 02:15 |
|
jcamins |
... unless I have some weird caching thing in my browser. |
| 02:15 |
|
jcamins |
Which would be really weird. |
| 02:15 |
|
jcamins |
Definitely Dallas-Centerville. |
| 02:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh that's my mistake -- run it one more time? |
| 02:16 |
|
jcamins |
Done. :) |
| 03:11 |
|
bag |
good evening |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1123: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1123/ |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 9930 - can't update patron info in ccsr |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Christophe Croullebois: Bug 9923: (MT #11060) actual cost not getting populated |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Thatcher Rea: Bug 9908 - Fixing OCLC Connexion Client |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Mason James: Bug 9926 - Missing perl modules in Koha |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 9797 - Untranslatable strings have returned to ajax.js |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9797 - Follow up : use double quotes in javascript translatable strings |
| 03:18 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9930 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , can't update patron info in ccsr |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Mason James: Bug 9660 - OpenLibrary covers are too small on OPAC search results |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9660 follow-up: OpenLibrary covers are too small in CCSR too |
| 03:18 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9923 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , correction of a bug due to bz 7129 |
| 03:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Will Stokes: Bug 7938: Added description of -v/--verbose parameter |
| 03:18 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9908 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , OCLC Connexion Desktop Client Doesn't Work |
| 03:18 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9926 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Missing perl modules in Koha |
| 03:18 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9797 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable strings have returned to ajax.js |
| 03:18 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9660 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OpenLibrary covers are too small on OPAC search results |
| 03:18 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7938 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , The -v option to the translate script is not documented |
| 03:19 |
|
bag |
oh Success is a good thing jenkins |
| 03:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh trea's patch was pushed, awesome :) |
| 03:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
love that guy. |
| 03:26 |
|
bag |
me too |
| 03:26 |
|
pastebot |
"jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Holds: they seem not right" (68 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/447 |
| 03:26 |
|
jcamins |
wizzyrea: ^^ |
| 03:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
lookin |
| 03:28 |
|
bag |
can you do a slash G with mariadb? |
| 03:28 |
|
jcamins |
$items_query |
| 03:28 |
|
jcamins |
I think so, yeah. |
| 03:28 |
|
bag |
easy to read in pastebin :) |
| 03:28 |
|
jcamins |
The screwed up formatting is thanks to the copy-and-paste job, though. |
| 03:28 |
|
bag |
s/easy/easier |
| 03:28 |
|
bag |
yup |
| 03:28 |
|
jcamins |
The only thing that matters is the "Empty set" bit, though. |
| 03:30 |
|
bag |
wthdrawn is that right? |
| 03:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
yep |
| 03:30 |
|
bag |
must be you've got results above |
| 03:31 |
|
bag |
yup wthdrawn is right :P |
| 03:31 |
|
jcamins |
Weird. |
| 03:31 |
|
* wizzyrea |
has double-taked that before |
| 03:31 |
|
jcamins |
Okay, I think I see it. |
| 03:31 |
|
jcamins |
It's the subquery. |
| 03:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
that's what I was looking at too |
| 03:32 |
|
bag |
I think I will repeatedly double-take that |
| 03:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
doubletook? hrm |
| 03:32 |
|
jcamins |
If you put a bib-level hold on a record with a single item, apparently you get an item-level hold that is reported as bib-level(?!?). |
| 03:33 |
|
jcamins |
I guess... |
| 03:33 |
|
jcamins |
I don't like debugging DBI traces. |
| 03:33 |
|
jcamins |
Right, it's 11:30. |
| 03:33 |
|
jcamins |
I'm going to bed. |
| 03:34 |
|
jcamins |
And counting my lucky stars that most special collections insist on paper hold requests for record keeping purposes. |
| 03:34 |
|
jcamins |
Why don't we use holds to pull? |
| 03:34 |
|
jcamins |
Too resource-intensive? |
| 03:36 |
|
jcamins |
Kind of an unfortunate choice: door A) your circ people won't bring your server to its knees, but they also won't know what books they need to get off the shelves; door B) your server is bludgeoned to a small stain on rack, but your circ people know what books they need to retrieve. |
| 03:37 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9720' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]51cb4cc240f4c8e9a> / Bug 9720 : uninitialized value warnings in circulation (followup 1) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]65ffa43dd6971bbec> / Bug 9720 : uninitialized value warnings in circulation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha |
| 03:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
hm yea |
| 03:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
you might be on to something there. which still puts it back on "item level holds are broken" |
| 03:39 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1124 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
and yes, you should go to bed |
| 03:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
holds to pull is to general |
| 03:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
too* |
| 03:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
I think my O key has a crumb in it |
| 03:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
do not like. |
| 03:40 |
|
* wizzyrea |
tries it |
| 03:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
erm, no, still works in mine on master. |
| 03:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
with no item type, and single item |
| 03:43 |
|
* wizzyrea |
tries again with an item that would require a trans.... |
| 03:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
wait a second. |
| 03:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
so the dev that shuffled the hold queue around |
| 03:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
had to do with transfer cost matrices |
| 03:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
so maybe the hold won't show up if the item has to be transferred and it's an item only |
| 03:44 |
|
* wizzyrea |
tests this |
| 03:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
gr, no. |
| 03:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
I cannot replicate this but it's happned to both jcamins and cait |
| 03:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
so what do I do differently? |
| 04:04 |
|
bag |
? |
| 04:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
bug 9950 |
| 04:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9950 major, P5 - low, ---, liz, NEW , Item level holds not showing up in holds queue |
| 04:04 |
|
bag |
do you have anything at all in your static holds syspref? |
| 04:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
no, but let me double check |
| 04:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
and I'm going to do katrin's complete plan, because I do see something there that's a little different |
| 04:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
yep I jsut got it |
| 04:12 |
|
bag |
oh |
| 04:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's when the hold is placed when the item isn't at home |
| 04:12 |
|
bag |
well tell trea to patch it :P |
| 04:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 04:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
I think at least |
| 04:13 |
|
bag |
hmm… could floating effect that? |
| 04:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
so somewhere, probably a bug in the transitcostmatrix stuff |
| 04:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
floating maybe, but I don't have rules for floating. |
| 04:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
not for this item. |
| 04:14 |
|
bag |
or maybe it just comes back to that holdingbranch vs homebranch problem that was spotted in the holds queue from the transportation matrix |
| 04:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
but I think it's looking to use the matrix when th matrix isn't enabled |
| 04:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
nope |
| 04:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
this is with that path. |
| 04:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
patch |
| 04:14 |
|
bag |
oh |
| 04:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
it happens in both. |
| 04:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
and it is both bib level and item level |
| 04:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
but that was definitely a bug, but related to automatic item return. |
| 04:15 |
|
bag |
but should it appear in the holds queue if it's not home? sorry I'm dense at the moment |
| 04:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
different tihng. |
| 04:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
yep, hold queue always, always selects on holding branch |
| 04:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
always. |
| 04:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
which was the bug with itemreturn. |
| 04:16 |
|
bag |
some homebranch would be A and holding branch would be B - and you're running holds queue at branch B |
| 04:16 |
|
bag |
something like that |
| 04:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
right |
| 04:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
the item should show up there |
| 04:16 |
|
bag |
yup |
| 04:16 |
|
bag |
well only if it floats |
| 04:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
no |
| 04:17 |
|
bag |
otherwise it shouldn't appear in the holds queue - it should be transferred home... |
| 04:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
wrong. |
| 04:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
you don't always send a hold home before it goes on to another hold. |
| 04:18 |
|
bag |
but you never put it on the shelf right? |
| 04:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
right |
| 04:18 |
|
bag |
and holds queue should only be whats on the shelf? |
| 04:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's only things that are currently in your library |
| 04:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
regardless of how they gothere. |
| 04:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
got there |
| 04:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
so a patron returned a book, it hasn't transited home yet |
| 04:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
but there is another hold |
| 04:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
checking in that item would trigger the next hold, or hold queue could select it for that hold |
| 04:19 |
|
bag |
hmm… so that's a checkin problem and not a holds queue problem? |
| 04:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
no, it's a hold queue problem |
| 04:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
checking in the item works like it's supposed to |
| 04:19 |
|
bag |
I'm not following than… when you check it in - it should either be hold or transfer |
| 04:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
right, but if an item is sitting in a library, and has a current branch |
| 04:20 |
|
bag |
so then that item would never be eligible to be on the holds queue |
| 04:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
and a hold comes up |
| 04:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's eligible. |
| 04:20 |
|
bag |
but the item would never sit in the library - I think |
| 04:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
nope, happens all the time. |
| 04:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
because there is lag |
| 04:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
item gets checked in, courier comes in 2 days |
| 04:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
item shows up on the hold queue because it is in the library. |
| 04:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's actually really good for patrons. |
| 04:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
they get things much faser. |
| 04:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
faster. |
| 04:21 |
|
bag |
hmmm…. ok workflow is check it in.. do what the screen says… transfer - put it in the tranfers "bucket" or put it in the hold "bucket" |
| 04:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
I cannot type oday |
| 04:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
right, but patrons can place holds anytime |
| 04:21 |
|
bag |
I can never type - no worries there |
| 04:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
if there's another hold, it will fill the hold |
| 04:22 |
|
bag |
so then you're saying that the library staff should be alerted - hey that item is in the transfer bucket go get it out of there |
| 04:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
if there isn't, but one is placed in the time between when the item is checked in and the courier comes |
| 04:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
it will show up the next time the hold queue runs |
| 04:22 |
|
bag |
but that's hard to code against isn't it? |
| 04:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
because it is still technically at that branch until it is received at the next branch |
| 04:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
I don't think you needto do that |
| 04:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
in that case the librarians just know that this item doesn't actually belong to me, but it's here in the library |
| 04:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
the logical place is the hold bin. |
| 04:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
er courier bin. |
| 04:23 |
|
bag |
I don't think it is "techinically" at that branch once it's in transfer - according to the database... |
| 04:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh it is. |
| 04:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
until it is received. |
| 04:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
there is no grey area for current location |
| 04:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
it is either at branch a or branch b |
| 04:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
*holds* can be in transit |
| 04:24 |
|
bag |
well I'd be a dumbass and search the shelves and not find it |
| 04:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
but for a transfer there is no current location of "in transfer" |
| 04:24 |
|
bag |
if you know what I mean |
| 04:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
sure, that hapens. |
| 04:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
happens* |
| 04:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
I don't think you can code around that scenario though |
| 04:25 |
|
bag |
so in my opinion it should not be on the holds queue - unless it is "on the shelf" |
| 04:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
but that's not this bug :P |
| 04:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
unless you don't allow on shelf holds. :P |
| 04:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
in general I agree with you, that it might be nice to have a check for "is this item actually an item that this library would pick for a hold" |
| 04:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
but the hold queue is fuckered enough as it is :P |
| 04:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh sorry cursing. |
| 04:27 |
|
bag |
actually add a - hey that item is currently "in transit" can you quickly check your transfer bucket |
| 04:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
transfers needs quite an overhaul really |
| 04:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
with quite a lot of thought |
| 04:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
like the bug where completing one transfer completes them all? |
| 04:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
yeaaah |
| 04:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
it needs fixing. |
| 04:48 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1124: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1124/ |
| 04:48 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9935 - Social icons missing in CSSR theme |
| 04:48 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 9922 - holds queue shows home library with AutomaticReturn |
| 04:48 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 9803 - question mark in cataloging not clearly a link |
| 04:48 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9935 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Social icons missing in CSSR theme |
| 04:48 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9759: last subfield can be deleted |
| 04:48 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9720 : uninitialized value warnings in circulation |
| 04:48 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9720 : uninitialized value warnings in circulation (followup 1) |
| 04:48 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9922 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , holds queue shows home library with AutomaticReturn |
| 04:48 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9803 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , question mark in cataloging not clearly a link |
| 04:48 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9759 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , last subfield can be deleted |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9720 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , uninitialized value warnings in circulation |
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wizzyrea |
that's interesting - the hold queue shows "transfer to mpl" for a reserve that is expected in Centerville. |
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wizzyrea |
git log |
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wizzyrea |
er lol |
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bag |
:) |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 9930 - can't update patron info in ccsr |
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jenkins_koha |
* Peter Crellan Kelly: Bug 9863: Correct casing and add arrow-heads for consistency with earlier submit messages. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9930 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , can't update patron info in ccsr |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9863 trivial, P5 - low, ---, peterAtKohaBugzilla, Pushed to Stable , 'import' button in web installer should read 'Import' |
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jenkins_koha |
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dalian1 |
do you know if KOHA works properly in two languages (Chinese and English)? |
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dalian1 |
Right now, no way to have a Chinsese support company such as ByWater Solutions, or LibLime. What is the alternative in this case ? |
| 08:31 |
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bag |
you can have two languages… check out translate.koha-community.org |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
out of those 2 companies you mention, only the first one actually supports Koha (the liblime fork does not support multi languages) |
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dalian1 |
yes I checked that English (USA)=100% Chinses (simplified) almost 95% |
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dalian1 |
what do you mean by fork ? |
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cait |
another software based on koha |
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bag |
hey cait |
| 08:37 |
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rangi |
dalian1: there are lots of people using koha in chinese |
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rangi |
were you here the other day asking about it also? |
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cait |
hi bag |
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dalian1 |
interesting. Thanks for the information. I found that a chinese university in hong-kong uses KOHA. I sent them a message to find out how they implemented and the issues about switching from language to another |
| 08:39 |
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wizzyrea |
hi cait :) I was finally able to reproduce your thing on 9950, but it's very bewildering. |
| 08:39 |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
bewildering is not good I guess |
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rangi |
dalian1: i think they use liblime, not Koha, there are a lot in taiwan actually using real Koha |
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dalian1 |
no it is my colleague;p sorry for asking same questions but we need to have a price idea about KOHA. I checked the demo proposed by ByWater Solution and Yes, I am completly impressed. |
| 08:40 |
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rangi |
dalian1: http://koha.wikispaces.com/ |
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wizzyrea |
it looks like it has to do with the selecting of items that might need a transit - a flaw in the matrices or it's checking them even when the cost matrices are off |
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rangi |
koha-community.org |
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wahanui |
koha-community.org is actually updated and right |
| 08:41 |
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rangi |
both of those 2 sites are about real koha |
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dalian1 |
a precise idea |
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rangi |
and there are lots of support companies supporting Koha, only one company doing whatever it is Liblime do |
| 08:42 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: can we reproduce it well enough to fix it? |
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wizzyrea |
well... |
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bag |
yeah well… sums it up |
| 08:42 |
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wizzyrea |
I finally got it with item from A, with holdingbranch B, on hold for a patron from B, logged in as A. |
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dalian1 |
I checked the clientele satisfaction in a survey and I found that LibLime is not well appreciated by clients |
| 08:43 |
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wizzyrea |
which I think is slightly different from what you did |
| 08:43 |
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cait |
dalian1: I think if you want to use chinese it's not an option |
| 08:43 |
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wizzyrea |
koha is though :) |
| 08:43 |
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dalian1 |
www.librarytechnology.org survey 2012 |
| 08:44 |
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cait |
dalian1: because their version doesn't have translations right now I think |
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wizzyrea |
cait- lots of folks use it in chinese |
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wizzyrea |
oh oh you meant lek |
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cait |
yep - sorry to be confusing |
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cait |
Koha of course has lots of translations :) |
| 08:44 |
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wizzyrea |
right liblime doesn't have translations - it's right out. |
| 08:44 |
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dalian1 |
ok, thank you all for this quick insight about KOHA. |
| 08:45 |
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wizzyrea |
meaning, it won't do what you need. Anytime :) |
| 08:45 |
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cait |
hm one last thing.. :) |
| 08:45 |
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cait |
not KOHA but Koha ;) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #289: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/289/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Peter Crellan Kelly: Bug 9863: Correct casing and add arrow-heads for consistency with earlier submit messages. |
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jenkins_koha |
* Thatcher Rea: Bug 9908 - Fixing OCLC Connexion Client |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9863 trivial, P5 - low, ---, peterAtKohaBugzilla, Pushed to Stable , 'import' button in web installer should read 'Import' |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9908 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , OCLC Connexion Desktop Client Doesn't Work |
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rangi |
that survey is pretty bad reading if you are that company |
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wizzyrea |
well nobody else has people tweeting at them because they don't answer support tickets :P |
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* rangi |
gets the aloe out for that burn |
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cait |
ouch |
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wizzyrea |
...unless you all know of someone |
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wizzyrea |
(else) |
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jenkins_koha |
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wizzyrea |
oy ok I'm going to go enjoy my book now. Tooooo much screen time today. |
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wizzyrea |
good for my brain tho. |
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wizzyrea |
anyway, goodnight friends! |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
* Thatcher Rea: Bug 9908 - Fixing OCLC Connexion Client |
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jenkins_koha |
* Mason James: Bug 9660 - OpenLibrary covers are too small on OPAC search results |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9660 follow-up: OpenLibrary covers are too small in CCSR too |
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jenkins_koha |
* Will Stokes: Bug 7938: Added description of -v/--verbose parameter |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9935 - Social icons missing in CSSR theme |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9908 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , OCLC Connexion Desktop Client Doesn't Work |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 9922 - holds queue shows home library with AutomaticReturn |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9660 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , OpenLibrary covers are too small on OPAC search results |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7938 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , The -v option to the translate script is not documented |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9935 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Social icons missing in CSSR theme |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9922 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , holds queue shows home library with AutomaticReturn |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #290: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/290/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Will Stokes: Bug 7938: Added description of -v/--verbose parameter |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 9908 - Fixing OCLC Connexion Client" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7938 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , The -v option to the translate script is not documented |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9908 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , OCLC Connexion Desktop Client Doesn't Work |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea++ |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1125 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Update history adding Jen Zajac as 205th committer <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c8fd84fdb25beb588> / Merge branch 'bug_5648' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]55857e6adfb717b25> / Bug 5648: Changed display: inline to inline-block on the inline CSS styling on the... <http://git.koha-community.org/ |
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jcamins |
@query plack |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7172 major, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Omnibus for Plack variable scoping problems |
| 12:42 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8866 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Plack - remove unneeded dbh->disconnects OMNIBUS |
| 12:42 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra |
| 12:42 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8970 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack |
| 12:42 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9048 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Quote editor does not work under Plack |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1125: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1125/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 9419: The highlight feature can cause a browser freeze |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 9196 - authorities editor overlapping box |
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jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 9003 - Add css fix for opac items with strong and em |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9003 follow-up: add fix to CCSR |
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jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 8508 - Holds to Pull : Library dropdown options are erroneously concatenated by br tags |
| 13:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9419 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The highlight feature can cause a browser freeze |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 8508: Followup: Simplify the separateData js function |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jen Zajac: Bug 5648: Changed display: inline to inline-block on the inline CSS styling on the li elements. |
| 13:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9196 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , authorities editor overlapping box |
| 13:33 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Update history adding Jen Zajac as 205th committer |
| 13:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9003 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add css fix for opac news items with strong and em |
| 13:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8508 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Holds to Pull : Library dropdown options are erroneously concatenated by br tags |
| 13:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5648 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , icons clumping together |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9610' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6c56241afc03729b> / Bug 9610 - Spanish translation of MARC21 default bibliographic framework <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b51e9668b836d535e> / Merge branch 'bug_9745' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1126 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1126: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1126/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Liz Rea: Bug 9745 - don't nuke translated strings in permissions on DB upgrade |
| 14:47 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9610 - Spanish translation of MARC21 default bibliographic framework |
| 14:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9745 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Don't nuke translated permissions with changes introduced in bug 9382 |
| 14:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9610 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Spanish translation of MARC21 default bibliographic framework |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9937' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e83822785e09f4a2a> / Bug 9937: Add new unit tests for new routines (introduced by bug 5343) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da51f878c639903cf> / Merge branch 'bug_9928' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]p=koha.git;a=comm |
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alohabot |
Hi mib_fhoxiw, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 21:24 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1127 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9904' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d544eac5556b9e468> / Bug 9904 - Link to plugins management should not be in global navigation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]60153566f388f04c9> / Merge branch 'bug_9932' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9685' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]29d9160a43e7dd176> / Bug 9685: Allow sort baskets by number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3ad56a4ef00e727d0> / Add Karam Qubsi as 206th committer to history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3aace1d82adb9324b |
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cait |
karam++ :) |
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jcamins |
Cool... |
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jcamins |
I might catch up with kados! |
| 21:44 |
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cait |
lol |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt is out of reach, but I'm less than 100 from kados now. |
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* jcamins |
quickly writes a bunch of gratuitous patches. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1127: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1127/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 9928 - no way to see all purchase suggestions at all |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 9937: Add new unit tests for new routines (introduced by bug 5343) |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9953 - When OpacMaintenance breaks lifting debarment |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 9945: Changed display: inline to inline-block on the inline CSS styling on the li elements. |
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jenkins_koha |
* ByWater Migration Support: Bug 9932 - Broken calendar image and misplaced masthead include for CCSR theme |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 9904 - Link to plugins management should not be in global navigation |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9928 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , no way to see all purchase suggestions at all |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9937 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Routines introduced for creating a subscription from an order need unit tests. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5343 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Subscription cost (Link serial and acqui modules) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9953 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , When OpacMaintenance breaks lifting debarment |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9945 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Pretty icon display in authorised values configuration |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9932 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Broken calendar image and misplaced masthead include for CCSR theme |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9904 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Link to plugins management should not be in global navigation |
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jenkins_koha |
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jcamins |
Go cait! You can do it! |
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cait |
lol |
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jcamins |
Make wizzyrea sign off on more things for you to QA. |
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jcamins |
:P |
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cait |
not good |
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cait |
have to look at the old ones first :) |
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jcamins |
That's even better. |
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cait |
but I think I have to stop now |
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jcamins |
You're within striking distance for tomorrow! :D |
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cait |
ah, the tests pass? |
| 23:20 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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cait |
excellent |
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jcamins |
I have committed 1241 patches so far. |
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jcamins |
470 this month. |
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jcamins |
Wait. 1244. |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
I switched some more enh to bug - datatables and yui |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 9697 - Replace YUI buttons on the patron cards batch edit page with Bootstrap |
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* Katrin Fischer: Bug 9697: Follow-up - making QA script and tests happy |
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* Karam Qubsi: Bug 9956 : Add translators to the about page |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9697 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on the patron cards batch edit page with Bootstrap |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Karam Qubsi as 206th committer to history |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9685: Allow sort baskets by number |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9956 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Add missing translators to the about page |
| 23:46 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9685 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Allow sort baskets by number |
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