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Message |
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mib_vt11xz |
can i paste a image of linux command top |
| 00:00 |
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jcamins |
That won't help. |
| 00:00 |
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| 00:00 |
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jcamins |
I'm sure circulation.pl is taking too much CPU. |
| 00:00 |
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jcamins |
The question is why. |
| 00:00 |
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jcamins |
How are you doing inventory? |
| 00:01 |
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mib_vt11xz |
patronimage.pl too |
| 00:01 |
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jcamins |
What are the specs of your server? |
| 00:01 |
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jcamins |
And how many items do you have in the catalog? |
| 00:02 |
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mib_vt11xz |
suse linux 11 |
| 00:02 |
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mib_vt11xz |
8 gb |
| 00:02 |
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mib_vt11xz |
ram |
| 00:02 |
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mib_vt11xz |
vmware |
| 00:02 |
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mib_vt11xz |
64 bits |
| 00:03 |
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rangi |
what version of Koha? |
| 00:03 |
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jcamins |
Yes! Good question! |
| 00:04 |
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mib_vt11xz |
of course |
| 00:04 |
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jcamins |
Usually I would have thought of that on my own. |
| 00:05 |
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mib_vt11xz |
3.82 |
| 00:06 |
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jcamins |
Oh, one more question... when you say it is using "too much CPU," you mean that it's a performance problem, not that you're surprised by it, right? |
| 00:06 |
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rangi |
3.8.2 ? you definitely should not go live with that |
| 00:06 |
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mib_vt11xz |
about 200000 items in the catalog |
| 00:06 |
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jcamins |
3.8.2 was very buggy. |
| 00:06 |
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rangi |
and there were security fixes in 3.8.4 |
| 00:07 |
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rangi |
so id go to 3.8.8 |
| 00:07 |
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jcamins |
Agreed. |
| 00:07 |
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mib_vt11xz |
i speak a little english |
| 00:08 |
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jcamins |
What is your native language? |
| 00:08 |
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mib_vt11xz |
we have 3.8.6 |
| 00:08 |
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mib_vt11xz |
spanish |
| 00:08 |
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jcamins |
tcohen is the person I usually ask to translate, and he's on vacation. |
| 00:09 |
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BobB |
We are using 3.8.6 - there's a couple of minor things, but its OK |
| 00:09 |
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jcamins |
BobB: yeah, 3.8.2 is a problem, 3.8.6 is not. |
| 00:10 |
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mib_vt11xz |
we have a performance problem |
| 00:10 |
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jcamins |
Okay. |
| 00:10 |
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jcamins |
How many transactions are you doing a minute? |
| 00:11 |
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jcamins |
(on average) |
| 00:11 |
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mib_vt11xz |
the problem is in concurrence |
| 00:12 |
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jcamins |
I don't usually work with circulating libraries, so I don't know much about the performance in circ. |
| 00:12 |
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jcamins |
But I do know that there are a lot of large library systems using Koha with similar servers successfully. |
| 00:12 |
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mib_vt11xz |
75 transactions |
| 00:13 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 00:13 |
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jcamins |
Do you have MySQL on the same server/ |
| 00:13 |
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jcamins |
*? |
| 00:13 |
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mib_vt11xz |
yes we have |
| 00:13 |
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rangi |
75 a minute shouldn't be a problem |
| 00:14 |
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rangi |
on a server with specs like that, unless something else is eating all the RAM |
| 00:14 |
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jcamins |
rangi: I know. I was trying to think if there could be something else that would cause the problem to manifest. |
| 00:14 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 00:14 |
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mib_vt11xz |
the problem is perl scripts |
| 00:14 |
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jcamins |
Where you _see_ the problem is Perl scripts. |
| 00:14 |
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rangi |
the perl scripts interact with the db |
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mib_vt11xz |
linux command top |
| 00:15 |
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rangi |
yes, what jcamins means is you see the problem in the .pl files that doesnt mean they are the cause |
| 00:15 |
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rangi |
have you checked it isn't IO bound |
| 00:16 |
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rangi |
and not swapping right? |
| 00:16 |
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mib_vt11xz |
tyes |
| 00:16 |
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jcamins |
Do you have anything else running on the server? |
| 00:16 |
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rangi |
it must be something unique to your set up im afraid |
| 00:16 |
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mib_vt11xz |
no only koha |
| 00:17 |
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jcamins |
All I can think of is that there's a problem with Koha on OpenSuse 11. |
| 00:17 |
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jcamins |
But I don't know. |
| 00:17 |
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rangi |
yep, we can only guess |
| 00:17 |
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mib_vt11xz |
we have suse linux enterprise 11 |
| 00:17 |
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kathryn |
jcamins, sorry I was eating a most delicious seafood vege udon. I don't really know, I'd check about now if they are in the oven :) |
| 00:18 |
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jcamins |
kathryn: bag said an hour, so I decided to go with plan B. |
| 00:18 |
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jcamins |
Quinoa. |
| 00:18 |
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rangi |
mib_vt11xz: there is no known performance problem with circulation.pl .. at least not a reported one, im afraid i dont know what could be causing it on your machine |
| 00:19 |
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kathryn |
jcamins mmn protein in disguise |
| 00:19 |
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rangi |
at least no known problem as bad as you are describing |
| 00:19 |
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mib_vt11xz |
circulation.pl and patronimage.pl eats cpu |
| 00:21 |
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jcamins |
mib_vt11xz: it's only such a serious problem on your server, so it must be something specific to your server. |
| 00:22 |
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mib_vt11xz |
is necessary install mod_perl? |
| 00:23 |
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jcamins |
mod_perl does not work with Koha. |
| 00:23 |
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jcamins |
Plack? |
| 00:23 |
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wahanui |
Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. |
| 00:23 |
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jcamins |
You could try Plack, but I don't know how well it would work for you. |
| 00:24 |
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mib_vt11xz |
I am worried |
| 00:24 |
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jcamins |
It works great for me, but I use Debian. |
| 00:25 |
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mib_vt11xz |
everething works |
| 00:25 |
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mib_vt11xz |
only performance problem |
| 00:26 |
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wizzyrea |
pretty good stuff here http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cIVbcZVQqg |
| 00:26 |
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jcamins |
It requires _Java_? |
| 00:27 |
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jcamins |
That's still a thing? |
| 00:27 |
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wizzyrea |
heh yea unfortunately. |
| 00:27 |
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rangi |
its an insecure thing you shouldnt have runnign in your browser! |
| 00:27 |
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jcamins |
Huh. Live and learn. |
| 00:27 |
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jcamins |
rangi: and I don't. |
| 00:27 |
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rangi |
ditto |
| 00:27 |
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wizzyrea |
ah never mind then. |
| 00:28 |
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jcamins |
Someone should introduce them to HTML5. |
| 00:28 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 00:29 |
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mib_vt11xz |
mysql CPU consumption is low |
| 00:29 |
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mib_vt11xz |
mysql 65 % RAM |
| 00:30 |
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jcamins |
Sounds like that might be the problem. |
| 00:31 |
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jcamins |
Not enough memory so circulation.pl is getting stuck. |
| 00:31 |
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wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay89BdbBfZ0 |
| 00:31 |
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wizzyrea |
that is all tabs and arrow keys btw |
| 00:31 |
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jcamins |
Nice! |
| 00:31 |
|
jcamins |
I'm sold! |
| 00:32 |
|
rangi |
:) |
| 00:32 |
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jcamins |
As long as it's translatable. |
| 00:32 |
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wizzyrea |
should be it's all html |
| 00:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
no strings in javascript. |
| 00:32 |
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jcamins |
Nice! |
| 00:33 |
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cjh |
the html has only been rearranged and restyled, so it shouldnt be any less translatable :) |
| 00:33 |
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* MrAgent075 |
is proud that he did the time. :) |
| 00:33 |
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cjh |
and keyboard access is much nicer, hope to get Julius to check it reads to him nicely too. |
| 00:33 |
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cjh |
MrAgent075++ |
| 00:34 |
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wizzyrea |
so basically, if it's not clear, we've moved the set library and log out to a menu under the user's identity, rather like unity does |
| 00:34 |
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cjh |
and there is a 'help' button to the right, off the screencast though |
| 00:35 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, screen was too wide |
| 00:35 |
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jcamins |
Quinoa + kale pesto = just the thing when I am too tired to cook. |
| 00:35 |
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wizzyrea |
we got rid of the [ ? ] and replaced it with a word |
| 00:35 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I saw the patch for that. |
| 00:35 |
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mib_vt11xz |
but it has 8GB |
| 00:35 |
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wizzyrea |
well yea, this includes that change :) |
| 00:35 |
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wizzyrea |
the other change is for the existing interface |
| 00:35 |
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cjh |
jcamins: I dont know either of those things... |
| 00:36 |
|
* cjh |
googles quinoa and kale pesto |
| 00:36 |
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jcamins |
mib_vt11xz: and 65% of it is needed for MySQL. |
| 00:37 |
|
jcamins |
mib_vt11xz: the best thing to do would be to put MySQL on a separate server and see how it works. |
| 00:37 |
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mib_vt11xz |
yes |
| 00:40 |
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jcamins |
Give MySQL an 8gb server and give Apache/Koha an 8gb server and see how it goes. |
| 00:40 |
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jcamins |
For a circulating library with 200000 items I'd probably use 16gb for each since RAM is so cheap, but that's just me. |
| 00:41 |
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mib_vt11xz |
we did a controlled trials |
| 00:41 |
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jcamins |
I don't have any more advice to give you. |
| 00:42 |
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jcamins |
If performance isn't good enough, use a more powerful server. If you don't want to use a more powerful server, deal with the performance you can get with the less powerful server. |
| 00:42 |
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mib_vt11xz |
improper installation perl has to do |
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jcamins |
Maybe Perl is installed wrong. I don't know. |
| 00:43 |
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rangi |
big clouds coming in from the south |
| 00:44 |
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eythian |
:< |
| 00:44 |
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jcamins |
And eythian's laundry hanging out to dry. |
| 00:44 |
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mib_vt11xz |
we have perl v5.12.1 |
| 00:44 |
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eythian |
I bet it's dry now |
| 00:44 |
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rangi |
yeah, its nice and sunny at the moment, not for long tho |
| 00:44 |
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eythian |
oh well, at least the south is the sheltered side of my place. Between that and the trees overhead, maybe it won't be so bad... |
| 00:45 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, right. |
| 00:45 |
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jcamins |
Keep dreaming. :P |
| 00:45 |
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jcamins |
The moment you say something like that, you seal your clothes' fate. |
| 00:46 |
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mib_vt11xz |
thanks a lot jcamins for you help |
| 00:46 |
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eythian |
hush. |
| 00:46 |
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jcamins |
mib_vt11xz: good luck. |
| 00:46 |
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eythian |
(jcamins that is) |
| 00:46 |
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jcamins |
eythian: you're the one who said "maybe it won't be so bad," not me. |
| 00:47 |
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jcamins |
Well, not until after you'd said it. |
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jcamins |
:P |
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cjh |
heh |
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rangi |
eythian: https://secure.flickr.com/phot[…]94/in/photostream |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
hrm |
| 00:58 |
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rangi |
that photo reminds me, i really should take that aerial down, its not as if it does anything |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
the bittorrent aerial? |
| 01:04 |
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rangi |
heh i wish, the old vhf one .. which is not connected to anything and just makes whistling noises in high winds .. which is pretty much always |
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rangi |
raining now |
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aqualaptop |
rangi: not here it aint ;) |
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* aqualaptop |
looks forward to the fun |
| 01:35 |
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rangi |
yep, i reckon prolly 10-15 before it hits the cbd |
| 01:36 |
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rangi |
http://www.watchmystreet.co.nz/ <-- interesting! |
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ibeardslee |
does seem a couple of degrees cooler |
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cjh |
:( |
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rangi |
https://secure.flickr.com/phot[…]94/in/photostream before |
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rangi |
https://secure.flickr.com/phot[…]06/in/photostream now |
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druthb_mobile |
o/ |
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jcamins |
o/ |
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aqualaptop |
woot, another bug down (bug 4437) |
| 03:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4437 minor, P5 - low, ---, hugh, Needs Signoff , acq.js uses XMLHttpRequest() directly; should use jQuery |
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rangi |
aqualaptop++ |
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cjh |
aqualaptop++ awesome work finding the evals |
| 03:51 |
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aqualaptop |
and bug 9411 fixed! |
| 03:51 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9411 major, P5 - low, ---, hugh, Needs Signoff , Multiple uses of javascript eval on ajax responses in acq.js |
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rangi |
nice! |
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aqualaptop |
dodge code ;) |
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* druthb_mobile |
waves to rangi |
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rangi |
hiya druthb_mobile |
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* druthb_mobile |
has been vacationing, but an SSH client on her tablet can solve many things... |
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rangi |
:) |
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* druthb_mobile |
is a geek like that sometimes. |
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druthb_mobile |
3.10 is just finishing up, 3.8 to follow. :) |
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rangi |
sweet thank you |
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druthb_mobile |
I am also thinking about how to automate that, and eleminate some of the fragile moving parts. |
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rangi |
i think moving the files to their own repo, then having pootle talk to git, would make it a bunch more scriptable, could even be cronned to update anytime a branch changes |
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druthb_mobile |
Yep. |
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aqualaptop |
bam, bug 4439 :D |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4439 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , two acq webservices should use C4::Service |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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mtj |
hi cait, good morning to you :) |
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cait |
hi mtj :) |
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mtj |
long time, no chat - happy new year :p |
| 06:26 |
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cait |
yes, happy new year :) |
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cait |
been busy? :) |
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mtj |
not as busy as other people :) |
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mtj |
but yeah, always busy… |
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mtj |
cait… sorry, just gotta work on this report for a bit… |
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mib_cjnvyi |
how to install koha |
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mtj |
how to install koha |
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wahanui |
i think how to install koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gory:Installation |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -4.0°C (8:00 AM CET on January 17, 2013). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
brr |
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alex_a_ |
Bonjour |
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alex_a_ |
cait :) |
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alex_a_ |
-4 :o |
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cait |
morning alex_a_ :) |
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cait |
yeah :( |
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cait |
and i have to walk to work soon! |
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alex_a_ |
@wunder MRS |
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huginn |
alex_a_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -1.0°C (8:00 AM CET on January 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
not much warmer where you are! |
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alex_a_ |
brr too |
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cait |
but I hope it will be nice and warm for the hackfest :) |
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alex_a_ |
When is the hackfest ? |
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cait |
hm in march :) |
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cait |
starting 18th I think |
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alex_a_ |
yes |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.7°C (8:35 AM CET on January 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
I win.... :( |
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magnuse |
@wunder rrs |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -33.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -37.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:40 |
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magnuse |
ouch |
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cait |
hm have to go out there now... |
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cait |
bbiab |
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magnuse |
good luck cait |
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magnuse |
you can do it! |
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alex_a_ |
-33 magnuse ! It's a Martian temperatures ? |
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magnuse |
alex_a_: nope, inland temperature from the south of norway - probably one of the coldest places in norway, on average :-) |
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alex_a_ |
I could not survive over there |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on January 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Rising). |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
wellington on the other hand sounds rather pleaseant :-) |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour! |
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gaetan_B |
;) |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
i'm suddenly getting lots of the error "Can't use string ("") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1555." on both searches and detail views both in intranet and opac on one of my 3.8.8 installs - anyone else seen that? same error everywhere, but not in other installs running off the same code |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
not seen that in my tests this morning, but Ididn't search :( |
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magnuse |
i'm pretty sure it must be a data problem |
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mtj |
magnuse, heya |
| 10:13 |
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magnuse |
kia ora mtj |
| 10:13 |
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mtj |
i've spotted something similar recently on a dev koha |
| 10:13 |
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magnuse |
at the moment i spsuspect a missing autorized value |
| 10:13 |
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mtj |
for me, it was a data problem too - some missing auth_values, i think.... |
| 10:13 |
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mtj |
snap ;) |
| 10:13 |
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magnuse |
a ha! :-) |
| 10:14 |
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mtj |
missing 'ccode', or 'lost' authcodes, perhaps? |
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pastebot |
"magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "it works! (not sure why)" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/361 |
| 10:28 |
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magnuse |
looks like there is a problem with the $tagslib variable being passed to GetAuthorisedValueDesc? |
| 10:34 |
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mtj |
hmm, that looks like a fix, to me :) |
| 10:39 |
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magnuse |
but i'd like to know a little bit more about why $tagslib is not defined :-) |
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slef |
bah... any other developers get confused and sometimes submit patches against stable? :-/ |
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kf |
hm no :) |
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kf |
;) |
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slef |
libraries report bugs on stable, so we need to deploy fixes against stable without waiting for the transit from master to stable and possibly to oldstable |
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kf |
i always develop my patches against master and then backport |
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kf |
but not so often |
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kf |
I mean it doesn't happen all that often |
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kf |
that we get a library reporting a problem that can't wait for a fix |
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slef |
I do, but I backport, then bz attach... and sometimes I forget to switch back to the master branch. |
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mtj |
slef, sometimes i accidentally do that too :) |
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slef |
after all, I need to backport to test it on the catalogue reporting the error (which might depend on the whole database...) |
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mtj |
(but often the stable patch applies ok to master, so no problem) |
| 11:14 |
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slef |
mtj: I'm getting increasing failure frequency as stable ages. |
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mtj |
ahh yeah, i guess that is to be expected :/ |
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vfernandes |
hello :) |
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vfernandes |
can anyone explain me what is opac-ccsr? |
| 11:59 |
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kf |
it's an alternate theme for the opac |
| 11:59 |
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kf |
responsive design |
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vfernandes |
responsive design? |
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kf |
the display changes depending on the size of your screen |
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kf |
it's nice on your mobile phone and nice on your big desktop |
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vfernandes |
hummm ok :) |
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kf |
vfernandes: maybe just try it out :) I think it's probably not perfect yet, but should show you what can be done |
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vfernandes |
I don't have 3.10 installed yet |
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vfernandes |
only 3.8 |
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vfernandes |
i'm doing 3.10 translations and I was suprised to see a opac-ccsr.po |
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kf |
ah right |
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kf |
I think I would finish the others first |
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gerundio |
hey, if I assign the stocknumber.pl plugin to the inventory number subfield (stock number?!? I don't know the original name) do I get incremental numbers like the barcode generator? |
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vfernandes |
kf by the way... once I've translated 3.8 completely to portuguese and almost 3.10, it's possible to add the company name to the about Koha? |
| 12:39 |
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kf |
vfernandes: I don't think we have strict rules about that |
| 12:39 |
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kf |
I think we sure can add yu to the translators tab |
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kf |
and you also did some patches, not sure how this shoudl be handles |
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slef |
gerundio: that depends on the a system preference called something like autobarcode. The function might be called something like fixup_barcode but I don't remember. |
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vfernandes |
yes that would be nice for me and the company I work for to appear in the About Koha |
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slef |
gerundio: but no, I suspect stocknumber.pl won't do incremental numbers. You'd need to read it to find out. |
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vfernandes |
do I need to talk to someone specifically? |
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vfernandes |
or you can pass the message to the responsible? :) |
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slef |
vfernandes: include it in the patch? |
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vfernandes |
the first patches I've done I forgot the add the label "Sponsored-by"... in the last ones I've included the label |
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jcamins_away |
vfernandes: you only need Sponsored-by to appear once per release. :) |
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slef |
vfernandes: around line 360 of koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt - could you correct our name to "software.coop" while you're there, please? ;) |
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slef |
@query about.tt |
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huginn |
slef: No results for "about.tt." |
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slef |
@query About Koha |
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vfernandes |
slef i'm not there :D I was just asking |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2705 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Patron import should warn about invalid characters |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , Note about range isn't showing range |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Show additional information about borrowers on routing list |
| 12:46 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Release notes for stable releases should be in Master |
| 12:46 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , News display on opac-main.pl is particular about browser language settings |
| 12:47 |
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vfernandes |
can I change about.tt and submit as a patch? it's what you are saying? |
| 12:48 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. :) |
| 12:48 |
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slef |
vfernandes: yes |
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slef |
vfernandes: then I was looking to see if there was an existing bug for such things |
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vfernandes |
ohhh nice :) i'll do that this afternoon |
| 12:48 |
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slef |
vfernandes: let me know and I'll sign it off if it fixes our name too ;) |
| 12:49 |
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vfernandes |
of course slef :) I'll change it |
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slef |
(we're currently "Software Coop" for some reason) |
| 12:50 |
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vfernandes |
don't worry... considered it done |
| 12:51 |
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vfernandes |
http://translate.koha-community.org/pt/310/ still 18K words to translate... |
| 12:51 |
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jwagner |
slef, since both companies contributed code separately before the acquisition, I would leave them as separate entries |
| 12:53 |
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slef |
jwagner: But if one is now part of the other (and its company is inactive since 2008), I feel we should reflect that. |
| 12:54 |
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jwagner |
That list appears to be specific to a NZ subsidiary |
| 12:54 |
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jwagner |
s/list/link/ |
| 12:56 |
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slef |
well, the US entity wasn't ever called liblime, was it? |
| 12:57 |
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jwagner |
So far as I know, it was. I don't know details of the incorporation |
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slef |
jwagner: I'm sure older US hands will remind me, but I'm pretty sure it was a trading name of Kados Inc or something like that. |
| 13:01 |
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slef |
jwagner: Paul POULAIN doesn't appear as a distinct company since BibLibre took over his business, which I feel is a similar situation. |
| 13:01 |
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slef |
(he used to trade in his own name) |
| 13:02 |
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jwagner |
I can't see why it's a problem, but if it disturbs you I can ask our management to clarify the various company names. |
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slef |
You might want to do that for your own benefit, to find out the history, but I'm not sure it matters for the purpose of deciding whether to replace a credit line after a business is acquired. |
| 13:04 |
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slef |
Else it could become as silly as the roadsign-spamming on our motorways... lots of differently named shell companies so they get lots of credit on the road signs. |
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slef |
lunch |
| 13:13 |
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kf |
enjoy :) |
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slef |
ww |
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kf |
good morning oleonard |
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oleonard |
Hi |
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* oleonard |
finds himself at Point A when he should be at a meeting at Point B shortly |
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francharb |
hello #koha |
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* magnuse |
hopes points A and B are really close to each other |
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oleonard |
I'm telling myself I just needed to come in to work for 15 minutes before the meeting |
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oleonard |
Hi francharb |
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gerundio |
slef, back from lunch |
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gerundio |
thanks for the feedback earlier and sorry to leave you hanging |
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gerundio |
this whole auto barcode and inventory/stock number thing is still not clear to me |
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gerundio |
from what I could tell there's a barcode generator perl script which can be defined on the global system preferences |
| 14:11 |
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gerundio |
the "autoBarcode" preference you mentioned |
| 14:11 |
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magnuse |
do we really have to say Koha *Online* Catalogue everywhere - in this day and age? |
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gerundio |
I looked into the barcode.pl source code and saw how that preference affects the script behavior |
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gerundio |
so basically I got that part figured out and I'm planing to use the incremental option (generated in the form 1, 2, 3.) from now on |
| 14:13 |
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gerundio |
my doubt relates to inventory/stock number generation |
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gerundio |
since there is a stocknumber.pl script I was thinking if I could use it to generate incremental numbers too |
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gerundio |
so, is it possible? |
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vfernandes |
slef and jcamins, since i've already submitted some patches to Koha can I add myself to the development team in about.tt? |
| 14:29 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: I thought I did? |
| 14:29 |
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jcamins |
If I did not, then yes, a patch is needed. |
| 14:29 |
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jcamins |
Yes, you are there. Right before Katrin. :) |
| 14:30 |
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jcamins |
It's alphabetical by last name. |
| 14:30 |
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vfernandes |
ohh there is :) |
| 14:31 |
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vfernandes |
but I can add the company I work for? |
| 14:31 |
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jcamins |
Sure. :) |
| 14:31 |
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vfernandes |
in the first patch accept i forgot the sponsored-by label |
| 14:31 |
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jcamins |
That doesn't matter. |
| 14:32 |
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jcamins |
The sponsored-by is used for release notes not about.tt. |
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jcamins |
While you are in there, could you add "C & P Bibliography Services, USA"? :) |
| 14:33 |
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jcamins |
There's a standing bug for this... |
| 14:33 |
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vfernandes |
of course jcamins... i will correct the company of slef to... KEEP SOLUTIONS before of after Katipo? because of E capital |
| 14:33 |
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jcamins |
bug 7143 |
| 14:33 |
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wahanui |
bug 7143 is ready for an easy signoff |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 14:34 |
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jcamins |
After. We ignore capitalization. :) |
| 14:34 |
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jcamins |
Thanks! |
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vfernandes |
I will create a new bug, that's fine? |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
Even better! :) |
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kf |
_= |
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kf |
vfernandes: I am not sure what you want to do - but there are several plugins for stocknumbers/inventory numbers right now |
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kf |
vfernandes: and they should be able to generate incremental numbers for you - even with prefixes |
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gerundio |
kf, you meant to talk to me, right? |
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kf |
ugh sorry |
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kf |
was not at my desk and just reading back |
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gerundio |
I just want incremental stocknumbers, like the barcode |
| 14:42 |
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gerundio |
my doubdt is since there is no system preference for it |
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gerundio |
all I have to do is assign the "stocknumber.pl" plugin to the respective field, right? |
| 14:42 |
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jcamins |
gerundio: there are value builder plugins for it. |
| 14:42 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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kf |
gerundio: the autobarcode is the exception - not the rule here |
| 14:44 |
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kf |
most plugins just work |
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gerundio |
I see |
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kf |
when connected to the field and don't have additional configuation options |
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gerundio |
from the looks of the source code the stocknumber is something like "$branchcode.'_'.$nextnum" |
| 14:44 |
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gerundio |
not just a clean incremental number |
| 14:45 |
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vfernandes |
bug 9418 |
| 14:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9418 trivial, P5 - low, ---, vfernandes, NEW , Some corrections and additions to about.tt |
| 14:45 |
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jcamins |
gerundio: there are a bunch of plugins. |
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vfernandes |
needs signoff :) |
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gerundio |
stocknumberam123.pl seems to do the trick :D |
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jcamins |
Look at.. |
| 14:45 |
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jcamins |
That's the one. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
vfernandes++ |
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gerundio |
kf++ |
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kf |
:) |
| 14:45 |
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gerundio |
slef++ |
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gerundio |
jcamins++ |
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kf |
jcamins++ gerundio++ vfernandes++ :D |
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* kf |
was in the mood |
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kf |
ok... now who volunteers to finish the sql scripts for german library statistics for me? |
| 14:46 |
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kf |
... |
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kf |
hi JesseM |
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jcamins |
Not me, sorry. |
| 14:46 |
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kf |
RMs are excused:) |
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JesseM |
Hi kf |
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jcamins |
kf: sneaky, getting Jesse to volunteer like that! |
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kf |
heh |
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JesseM |
oh no :) |
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kf |
I will spare your sanity :) |
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sturmtruppen |
hi koha |
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sturmtruppen |
i have a problem with the installation on Debian with the packages |
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mib_7ppale |
buenos DÃas |
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sturmtruppen |
i cannot reach the installer. I obtain "System Maintenance The koha online catalog is offline..." |
| 14:57 |
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kf |
sturmtruppen: you are probably looking at the opac url .) |
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kf |
how did you install? |
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sturmtruppen |
debian packages |
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wahanui |
debian packages are at debian.koha-community.org |
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kf |
most of the time it's your opac url plus port :8080 |
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sturmtruppen |
same result |
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kf |
hm nt sure about the default for packages |
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jcamins |
sturmtruppen: Debian packages use DNS by default. |
| 14:58 |
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kf |
you can do things like opac. and intra. there |
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sturmtruppen |
koha:8080 kohaadmin:8080 127.0.1.1:8080 - same result |
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jcamins |
If you don't have DNS configured yet, you'll need to adjust the Apache site file. |
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sturmtruppen |
how? |
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jcamins |
Take a look at /etc/apache2/sites-available/[instancename] |
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jcamins |
(you'll need sudo) |
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jcamins |
There are going to be two <Listen> sections |
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sturmtruppen |
grep -i ServerName * result koha and kohaadmin |
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jcamins |
Do you have DNS set up? |
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jcamins |
It sounds to me like you do not. |
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sturmtruppen |
none <Listen> section, just 2 <VirtualHost *:80> |
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jcamins |
That's what I meant. |
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jcamins |
I don't use Apache anymore. |
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jcamins |
And I disliked it so much that I have gone out of my way to forget everything about it. ;) |
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jcamins |
So you can adjust the intranet section to be <VirtualHost *:8080> and add "Listen 8080" to /etc/apache2/ports.conf. |
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sturmtruppen |
ok, i'll try now |
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jcamins |
Then restart Apache. |
| 15:03 |
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sturmtruppen |
it works! |
| 15:03 |
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sturmtruppen |
thanks. |
| 15:03 |
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jcamins |
Good! |
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jcamins |
For production you'll of course need to set up DNS. |
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* jcamins |
has an idea: we could provide a Zeroconf profile for OPAC and Intranet! |
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sturmtruppen |
it's school biblio, only one pc |
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jcamins |
If you're not making it available to the Internet, I might just leave it, then. |
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sturmtruppen |
no internet for sure. |
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mib_7ppale |
Por favor, Hay alguien que hable Español? |
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jcamins |
Yo no creo que alguien que está aquà ahora habla español. (que era de Google Translate) |
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jcamins |
¿Qué problema tiene? |
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jcamins |
(si es que es bastante simple, tal vez te pueda ayudar sin saber español :) |
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mib_7ppale |
el problema es que cualquier proceso .pl esta consumiendo demasiado uso de cpu |
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mib_7ppale |
incluyendo el proceso opac-search.pl |
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jcamins |
Oh, estuviste aquà ayer. Esto necesita un altavoz español. : ( |
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mib_7ppale |
si señor |
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mib_7ppale |
ya aumentamos a 16 GB de RAM |
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jcamins |
"un altavoz español"... ¿no es as� |
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mib_7ppale |
si |
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jcamins |
Si 16GB no es suficiente, creo que hay un problema con el servidor. Tal vez porque es Suse. |
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vfernandes |
mib_7ppale percebes português? |
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mib_7ppale |
El servidor ya no esta realizando swapping |
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mib_7ppale |
y el consumo de memoria ya es normal |
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vfernandes |
mib_7ppale tenho tido um problema parecido num dos servidores e ainda não descobri o porquê |
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jcamins |
Creo que hay una lista en idioma español. Si, lo encontré: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/koha-es/ |
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mib_7ppale |
cuando realizo una busqueda por el OPAC llega hasta 70% |
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mib_7ppale |
de CPU |
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mib_7ppale |
we were trailing with 10 users |
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mib_7ppale |
load average: 9.82, 1.65, 0.76 |
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jcamins |
o.O |
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mib_7ppale |
is this normal? |
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jcamins |
No! |
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jcamins |
Definitely not. |
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mib_7ppale |
this consume is only with .pl process |
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jcamins |
It seems like this is not a problem with Koha per se. |
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jcamins |
All I can think of is that it has something to do with Suse. |
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maximep |
10 users searching when a rebuild is running could make the load go up to 9.82 for a minute, no ? |
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druthb_mobile |
Hi |
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jcamins |
maximep: I guess, but that seems like an awfully high load. |
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jcamins |
I guess maybe if you sent 10 exactly simultaneous requests. |
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jcamins |
Hi, druthb! |
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mib_7ppale |
yes sir 10 simultaneous requests |
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druthb_mobile |
Hi.:) |
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jcamins |
mib_7ppale: down to the _second_? |
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mib_7ppale |
they are in loans |
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mib_7ppale |
circulation |
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wahanui |
hmmm... circulation is really much faster with that... But also display of biblios with many items...... |
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jcamins |
I have never seen a load that high when my server wasn't getting DOSed by a Chinese search engine. |
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mib_7ppale |
this operation is in borrows |
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mib_7ppale |
however, processes are released rapidly |
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mib_7ppale |
these are peaks cpu |
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jcamins |
Do you have the VM limited to just 1 or 2 cores? |
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mib_7ppale |
9.82 is not in minutes |
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mib_7ppale |
This figure is in terms of load |
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slef |
jcamins: we've had one catalogue getting spidered by some froggy colo this week. Had to block it at the firewall :-/ |
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mib_7ppale |
of linux |
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jcamins |
slef: ditto. |
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jcamins |
mib_7ppale: I know. But that still seems high. |
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slef |
jcamins: froggy colo? |
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jcamins |
slef: well, last week. |
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jcamins |
Blocking the spider at the firewall. |
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jcamins |
It was filling ~50 requests/second according to the logs when it kicked the bucket. |
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mib_7ppale |
we cimbed to 4 cores |
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jcamins |
(counting images, CSS, JS) |
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mib_7ppale |
we climbed to 4 cores |
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jcamins |
(this was on a server roughtly 1/4 the size of mib_7ppale's, shared between four catalogs) |
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jcamins |
mib_7ppale: I don't know why you would be seeing performance issues. |
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mib_7ppale |
yes |
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mib_7ppale |
what requisites are necesary to run perl? |
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mib_7ppale |
.pl files |
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jcamins |
Perl, and the various libraries listed as dependencies. |
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mib_7ppale |
some version in particular for hoka 3.8.6? |
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jcamins |
Perl 5.10+ |
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slef |
there's a dependency checker... but I doubt this causes your high load |
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mib_7ppale |
we have perl v5.12.1 |
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jcamins |
I think it's more likely to be something about the way Perl is configured by Suse, or the scheduler that has been selected, or... |
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mib_7ppale |
the load is by .pl process |
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slef |
sure but it's probably something to do with what they're doing, rather than the versions in use |
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jcamins |
The only advice I can give you is "test it on Debian" to see if it's a configuration issue. |
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mib_7ppale |
we are do to borrows in the trail controlled with 10 users |
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jcamins |
So you see this on both Debian and Suse? |
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jcamins |
Or whichever distro you are using for production? |
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mib_7ppale |
we have ony suse linux linux enterprise 11 |
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jcamins |
I don't have any more advice, sorry. |
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mib_7ppale |
unfortunately |
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vfernandes |
slef check bug 9418... |
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slef |
I'd try inspect the apache server-status and the pl processes with ps, maybe try running the pl processes in the perl debugger and/or test the underlying queries by using koha's perl API |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9418 trivial, P5 - low, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Some corrections and additions to about.tt |
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jcamins |
The two options I can think of are: 1) there is a problem with the server hardware it's on, such as the server is overload, or 2) there's something strange about Suse's configuration. |
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slef |
They're not easy things to explain how to do though. Sorry. |
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slef |
vfernandes: sorry got to go out the door like right now. :( I'll get it as soon as I can |
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jcamins |
*server is overloaded |
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mib_7ppale |
thanks |
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mib_7ppale |
before run process koha is ok |
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datadoctor |
mib_7ppale: We get problems when our zebra indexing stumbles on a malformed record - are your cronjobs active or inactive? |
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jcamins |
datadoctor: oh, there's a thought. |
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vfernandes |
no problem slef... it's only to inform you that the bug is already with a patch... be free to sign it off :) |
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mib_7ppale |
the cronjos are active |
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jcamins |
mib_7ppale: how frequently do you have them running? |
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mib_7ppale |
each 5 minutes |
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jcamins |
Hrm. That shouldn't be a problem. |
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jcamins |
Do you have any rebuild_zebra or zebraidx processes running right now? |
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datadoctor |
Good question jcamins. |
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mib_7ppale |
No |
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jcamins |
Hm. So it's probably not a Zebra issue. |
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jcamins |
I am out of ideas, again. |
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datadoctor |
The only other thing I can think of is table locking. Sometimes InnoDB data can convert to MyISAM when transferring, leading to table-level locking, which can slow modifications. |
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jcamins |
datadoctor: ouch. Painful! |
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mib_7ppale |
I verify the crons aren´t active |
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jcamins |
mib_7ppale: so you should check that the tables in your Koha database are InnoDB and not MyISAM. |
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gmcharlt |
mysqltuner might be useful to run as well |
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kf |
oleonard: around? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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mib_7ppale |
if the crons aren´t active they can produce performance problems |
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kf |
hi :) |
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kf |
I am working on a patch for 9403 |
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kf |
bug 9403 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Material type icons not showing for XSLT default view in intranet |
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datadoctor |
Indexing will take longer once you reactivate the crons, but that's not a huge performance hit. |
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kf |
I noted that we have a different file structure for the images in opac and intranet |
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kf |
/opac-tmpl/lib/famfamfam/silk/book_link.png |
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kf |
would be |
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datadoctor |
We had a problem with the indexing, and it generated large shadow files for indexing, and a huge temp file. How is your disk analysis looking mib_7ppale? |
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kf |
/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/famfamfam/silk... is there a plan to move the image directories above the prog too? |
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kf |
ah hm, ignore that |
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kf |
I will just keep it the way it is I guess |
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mib_7ppale |
Open suse is installed in spanish |
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* oleonard |
obediently ignores kf |
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kf |
sorry :) |
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jcamins |
kf: eventually I would like to, but I don't have a tuit. :) |
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kf |
yeah, I figured me neither :) |
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oleonard |
You're doing well kf. Usually I don't resist the urge to fix the other thing that I see when fixing the thing and then I get in over my head. |
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kf |
oleonard: :) |
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kf |
i know what you mean.... trying to get this thing finished without doing too much |
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kf |
but I am implementing a new syspref... |
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kf |
so I am not doing all that well |
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kf |
i noticed you can turn the display off in the opac (materialtype icons, format and the like) |
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kf |
so I guess we want that too for the intranet |
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oleonard |
kf: I wouldn't fail a patch that didn't include that. |
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kf |
would you failone that did? |
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kf |
:) |
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* oleonard |
isn't saying :P |
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druthb_mobile |
How awesomely cool....I'm talking to a server in Argentina, while sitting in the cab of a *moving* vehicle in rural eastern Pennsylvania, USA. |
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druthb_mobile |
..tcohen++ |
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jcamins |
Nice! |
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jcamins |
Heading back to Lawrence? |
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oleonard |
Hopefully not by cab! |
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druthb_mobile |
Yes. Working on the 3.8.x string freeze update now. Did 3.10 last night late. |
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kf |
druthb++ :) |
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kf |
oleonard: I hope not :) |
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mib_7ppale |
thanks a los for you help |
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reiveune |
bye |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
that's weird. the pref description for the existing one is... misleading |
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kf |
On pages displayed with XSLT stylesheets on the OPAC show/don't show icons for itemtype and authorized values. |
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kf |
but it's actually turning off and on the format/audience/type line in the xslt? |
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oleonard |
Which pref? |
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kf |
DisplayOPACiconsXSLT |
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kf |
the description in syspref.sql would be ok, it's the .pref that is so different |
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oleonard |
Yeah that's not just misleading, it's wrong. |
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kf |
maybe one of the mistakes made by translating to the new pref editor? |
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kf |
I could change it |
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kf |
I put this in sysprefs.sql: |
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kf |
If ON, displays the format, audience, and material type icons in XSLT MARC21 results and detail pages. |
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kf |
we could make it: Show/Don't show the format.... maybe? |
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kf |
with and without the OPAC part |
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oleonard |
Show/Don't show the format, audience, and material type icons in XSLT MARC21 results and detail pages in the staff client |
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kf |
done |
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kf |
oleonard: see. I am being not good at all! |
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oleonard |
kf: Can you upgrade jQuery while you're at it? ;) |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
no! |
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kf |
out of the scope of my bug :P |
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jcamins |
Hey, speaking of upgrading jQuery... |
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jcamins |
kf: why don't you change some of the menus to use Bootstrap so Agent075 doesn't have to do it all. |
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* oleonard |
puts his fingers in his ears and sings 'The Star Spangled Banner' |
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jcamins |
Since you're in there. :P |
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oleonard |
Is Agent075 working on that jcamins ? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: oh, you didn't see the video? |
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oleonard |
No |
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jcamins |
I guess you wouldn't have, since it was shared at about 11 o'clock last night. |
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jcamins |
I'm finding it. |
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* oleonard |
sleeps |
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jcamins |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay89BdbBfZ0 |
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jcamins |
That navigation is entirely with the keyboard. |
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kf |
havent read the logs yet from last night |
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kf |
but it looks nice |
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oleonard |
I take it they evaluated it and found it more accessible than YUI jcamins? |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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kf |
I think anything is more accessible than yui.... |
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oleonard |
that's good news |
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jcamins |
It's Bootstrap not jQuery, but the two are somewhat related. |
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oleonard |
I guess I could have pointed out the branch I have where I did all that work already :| |
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jcamins |
Hmmm... yes. |
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* oleonard |
smacks forehead |
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oleonard |
I asked wizzyrea if they could evaluate the accessibility of Bootstrap but didn't realize they were going to dive right in |
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kf |
oleonard: oh ouch |
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kf |
oleonard: but at least you seem to think it's a good idea? :) |
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jcamins |
Yeah, they did initial testing yesterday, and today they will be having Julian test the new interface. |
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kf |
Julius? |
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oleonard |
Oh yeah, it has been my plan kf |
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jcamins |
kf: their accessibility expert. |
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kf |
yep i know :) |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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jcamins |
Yes, Julius. |
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* jcamins |
sighs. |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
I don't know how to write a commit message that will not sound weird in release notes |
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oleonard |
Here's as far as I got: http://screencast.com/t/4dy4wudFt7X |
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jcamins |
I don't think they got to the buttons at all. |
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oleonard |
I don't know why I didn't think that branch was available when I talked to wizzyrea yesterday :( |
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* oleonard |
isn't having the best week |
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oleonard |
It's ip-bootstrap-2012-09-17 at http://gitorious.org/koha-dev/koha-dev |
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oleonard |
It hasn't been rebased in a while (but more recently than 2012-09-17 I think) |
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jcamins |
@later tell wizzyrea oleonard has a branch you should look at: ip-bootstrap-2012-09-17 at http://gitorious.org/koha-dev/koha-dev |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
I wanted to get Bug 6261 in before I worked more on it |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Consolidate patron toolbar include files |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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libsysguy |
is rangi in yet? |
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libsysguy |
probably not |
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libsysguy |
@later tell rangi could I get a wip branch on git.koha-community.org and possibly push access to the migration toolbox? |
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huginn |
libsysguy: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
Wow I sure don't like finding a github project and finding the download link leads to a PayPal page |
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oleonard |
Seems like a bait and switch |
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kf |
bye all :) |
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jcamins_away |
libsysguy: what we need is a working repo. |
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libsysguy |
agreed |
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libsysguy |
stash for FOSS projects ;) |
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jcamins_away |
I don't remember why we got derailed from setting one up. |
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jcamins_away |
gmcharlt: do you remember why we didn't set up a working repo? |
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libsysguy |
I think that could go a long way in de-duplicating work |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins_away: just a lack of tuits |
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gmcharlt |
I'll set up one tonight |
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jcamins_away |
Yay! |
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jcamins_away |
gmcharlt++ |
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libsysguy |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
jcamins_away: how does a working repo work? :) |
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jcamins_away |
cait: anyone can get push access to it, but only for branches that are named something like user/jcamins/whatever. |
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gmcharlt |
cait: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuw[…]git#working_repos |
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cait |
thx :) |
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libsysguy |
actually (I may be off base here) but it would make for an interesting change if all devs forked master and then patches could be branches…so to RM would handle merges of passed branches into master |
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libsysguy |
so each dev has a wip fork |
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jcamins_away |
libsysguy: that's how Evergreen does it. |
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libsysguy |
does it work? |
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gmcharlt |
libsysguy: quite well |
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libsysguy |
it seems like code traceability would be much easier |
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libsysguy |
actually I'd like to see us use something like this: http://www.atlassian.com/softw[…]crucible/overview instead of comments on with to fix in BZ :D |
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datadoctor |
Patch posted for bug 8401 javascript code deletes search terms from global system preferences custom css and js. |
| 19:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8401 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search term deleted from system preference content |
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datadoctor |
Search system preferences with no worries! :) |
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cait |
datadoctor++ |
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kathryn |
morn-ing |
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kathryn |
and eve-ning |
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oleonard |
Was Bug 9399 signed off by someone on the same team as the patch author? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9399 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Signed Off , Accessibility - Search box options aren't buttons |
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mtj |
… and what a nice morning it is :) |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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mtj |
oleonard, afaik yes |
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cait |
mtj: and a nice evening too :) |
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cait |
morning kathryn :) |
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kathryn |
hey cait |
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cait |
oleonard: I think we can be a bit less strict with the academy kids - but it would be great if you could take a look too |
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cait |
oleonard: I will try to look at the patches later, only have to deal with my 'pink' kitchen right now |
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jcamins_away |
Pink? |
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bag |
morning |
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jcamins_away |
Oh. |
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jcamins_away |
Beets. |
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cait |
beets |
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kathryn |
cait: haha! |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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oleonard |
cait: I see 9388, 9397, 9398, and 9399. Are there others I should be looking at? |
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oleonard |
So wizzyrea jcamins_away showed me the YouTube video of some Bootstrap work you guys did and I realized I had a work in progress I should have pointed you to |
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oleonard |
Did you get that msg? |
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wizzyrea |
yea just now |
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wizzyrea |
we found that we couldn't/shouldn't includethe css for tables and forms due to collateral damage |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Yeah that's one of the things we need to agree on, just how much of the css to bring in |
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oleonard |
I think I have that in one of the commit messages on that branch |
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jcamins_away |
I thought Bootstrap was CSS? |
| 19:48 |
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oleonard |
Bootstrap is CSS and javascript |
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wizzyrea |
some of it I quite like, for example, the prepend and appending of tips |
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wizzyrea |
on form fields |
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wizzyrea |
but some of it just makes koha go a bit mad. |
| 19:49 |
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oleonard |
jcamins_away: You can build a custom build of the CSS/JS and include coverage on only certain aspects of the UI |
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wizzyrea |
like their legend definition makes ours go all sorts of insane. |
| 19:49 |
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oleonard |
Yeah, and <span class="label"> |
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wizzyrea |
so we just built a custom bootstrap that left out forms - which limits what we can do somewhat |
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wizzyrea |
(and tables) |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: What I'm most interested in finding out is whether Bootstrap has the same accessibility problems YUI did |
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wizzyrea |
no! |
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wizzyrea |
it does not at all |
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wizzyrea |
it's quite good actually |
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oleonard |
That's good to know |
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wizzyrea |
at least, keyboard accessibility is vastly improved |
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wizzyrea |
and if you can get that, screen readers can usually get at it |
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cait |
oleonard: not sure - in and out right now, still doing housechores - wizzyrea will know |
| 19:52 |
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oleonard |
This is your last academy day wizzyrea? |
| 19:52 |
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wizzyrea |
yea - we were thinking of doing some of the circ buttons today, if we had time |
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wizzyrea |
on the toolbar. |
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* oleonard |
has that in the Bootstrap branch he worked on |
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wizzyrea |
ah cool |
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oleonard |
I'm not sure how far that branch is from master. I has been a few weeks I guess. |
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oleonard |
It won't rebase cleanly because of Bug 6261 though |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Consolidate patron toolbar include files |
| 19:55 |
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wizzyrea |
ahhh yea no it won't will it |
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oleonard |
Anyway, picking a different toolbar set would let you guys get something done without repeating what I did |
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wizzyrea |
yep, I will take a look at what you did here in a minute |
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cait |
wizzyrea: btw - all the accessibility work on the staff client is pretty cool! :) |
| 20:02 |
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wizzyrea |
yea corey worked really hard |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: I apologize for not sharing that link before. I didn't mean to make anyone duplicate work |
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wizzyrea |
:) it's all good |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Are there any bugs you'd like me to look at? |
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wizzyrea |
did you do work on the top nav bar, oleonard/ |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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oleonard |
Yes, although mine looks a little different from what I saw in the video |
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wizzyrea |
yea, we hadn't gotten into custom styling the bar |
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wizzyrea |
that's basically default bootstrap stuff - but we did move some things around up there |
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wizzyrea |
mostly on the right hand side |
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oleonard |
Yeah I didn't get a close look but I think my preference is not to collapse any of that stuff |
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wizzyrea |
here's the logic, if it helps |
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wizzyrea |
in ubuntu, the username in the upper right hand corner |
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wizzyrea |
it's a menu, and it does stuff |
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wizzyrea |
you do user-y things there |
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wizzyrea |
setting library, and logging out |
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wizzyrea |
are user-y things |
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wizzyrea |
so it made sense to us to put it under that menu |
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wizzyrea |
the ? was simply off the screen when I did the screencast |
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wizzyrea |
but we changed it to the word "help" |
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wizzyrea |
"Help" actually |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: wasn't that a film? |
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oleonard |
Looking again and seeing that you have both the username and branch showing I am more okay with it |
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wizzyrea |
yea, we did user @ branch |
| 20:22 |
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wizzyrea |
which was contentious here, as that looks like an email address |
| 20:22 |
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wizzyrea |
so we may change that bit. |
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cjh |
the koha cookie flavour is awesome! |
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oleonard |
Having a menu would let us put in a "my account" link which I would find useful |
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cjh |
wizzyrea++ baking! |
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wizzyrea |
oh yeaaaaa |
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jcamins_away |
Which one? |
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wahanui |
Which one is, like, the "native" files |
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wizzyrea |
I like that |
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wizzyrea |
it would be nice to be able to jump to your own user account. |
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wizzyrea |
lol, i've actually always wanted that. :) |
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cjh |
oleonard: fwiw: we were really adamant on having both the username and current branch displayed, we didnt want to remove information. |
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oleonard |
It will be an adjustment for existing users. I remember when Facebook hid their log out link it felt like they were doing it to be sneaky |
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jcamins_away |
It did? |
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jcamins_away |
Facebook hid their logout link? |
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wizzyrea |
mm yea, that's fair I guess - however - facebook has done one thing for us that is nice |
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wizzyrea |
and that is teach users that things just change sometimes. |
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jcamins_away |
If that's true, then clearly I don't pay much attention. |
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oleonard |
...and that you have to click that menu to find the hidden log out link ;) |
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cjh |
generally things in the top are either buttons or dropdowns, it feels a bit odd to have non-clickable text (like the username) or have it have hidden function when you click, hence the dropdown. |
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ibeardslee |
and that regardless peoplewill cry over any changes |
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cjh |
there are other ways of doing it, we just quite liked the dropdown menu as it seemed 'obvious' |
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ibeardslee |
wizzyrea: ^^ see stupid spacebar |
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cjh |
ibeardslee: we feel your pain |
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jcamins_away |
cjh: cookie did wizzyrea bake? |
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wizzyrea |
haha yea |
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wizzyrea |
I baked the koha cookie :) |
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wizzyrea |
coconut curry oatmeal ones |
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cjh |
jcamins_away: indeed, curry + coconut + choc chips + cranberry |
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aqualaptop |
jcamins_away: they are the "worst" cookies I've had in my life |
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aqualaptop |
yet I keep eating thm |
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cjh |
^^ he has had like 5 |
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* wizzyrea |
ignores aqua |
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aqualaptop |
wizzyrea: :( |
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MrAgent075 |
omnom... |
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jcamins_away |
Nice! |
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* cjh |
is pretty sure aqualaptop is lying |
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jcamins_away |
I may have to bake those. |
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jcamins_away |
Actually, I _definitely_ have to bake those. |
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cjh |
I was really suspicious about the curry, but they are very yummy. |
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* MrAgent075 |
can count. but he prefers to do something more useful than to see how many cookie one person takes. |
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wizzyrea |
these guys are lucky I didn't bake the gluten free ones (though they are really no different) |
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jcamins_away |
The curried coconut cookie has spoken of, they must be summoned! |
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wizzyrea |
(and in some ways better) |
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jcamins_away |
MrAgent075: ah, hoping no one was counting how many you ate? :P |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: what flour do you use? |
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wizzyrea |
for the gluten free ones? |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah. |
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jcamins_away |
Since the ones with gluten have gluten, I gather you use wheat flour. :) |
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MrAgent075 |
jcamins_away: eah... xd |
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wizzyrea |
somewhat less than it calls for almond flour, and about 1/8c coconut flour |
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jcamins_away |
Ah. |
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MrAgent075 |
Coconut Flour? |
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wahanui |
Coconut Flour is REALLY expensive |
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jcamins_away |
I don't have either. |
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jcamins_away |
And that's why. |
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MrAgent075 |
Didn't even know you could make flour out of coconut. |
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jcamins_away |
I have rice flour. |
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* oleonard |
didn't expect wahanui to know the price of coconut flour |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: he's been hanging around me too much. |
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ibeardslee |
MrAgent075: the things one learns while working on koha. |
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jcamins_away |
ibeardslee: it's true. Until I started working on Koha, I did not know that pizza was on Fridays. |
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aqualaptop |
jcamins_away: pizza can be on everyday :D |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: the branch you're referring to is ip-bootstrap-2012-09-17 right? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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jcamins_away |
aqualaptop: true, but on Thursdays one doesn't necessarily know to expect pizza. |
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aqualaptop |
jcamins_away: at catalyst one would expect pizza on one thursday a month |
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wizzyrea |
cool |
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wizzyrea |
ty |
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jcamins_away |
aqualaptop: that's at one company in New Zealand, and maybe the UK. I know that pizza should be on the menu throughout the world on Fridays! |
| 20:40 |
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jcamins_away |
See what useful things I learned from #koha? :) |
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Dyrcona |
Is it beer o'clock, yet? |
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rangi |
nope only 6 hours tho |
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oleonard |
Ugh. jQuery 1.9 removes a long-deprecated feature used by the star-ratings plugin we have in the OPAC :( |
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jcamins_away |
Oh no! |
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jcamins_away |
What feature? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that feature is only for 856u (under xslt) and any links in the biblio or item in normal view.. ill do the xslt for normac and unimarc too when i figure it out |
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oleonard |
http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.browser/ |
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rangi |
hmm can we code the star ratings in a way to not use that? |
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oleonard |
browser_sniffing-- |
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mtj |
hmm, i wonder if theres a newer star-ratings release, with a fix? |
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jcamins_away |
Looks like we can replace it with jQuery.support? |
| 20:47 |
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jcamins_away |
At least, the documentation says that. |
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oleonard |
Heck, the version of jQueryUI we have uses it too! But at least we can upgrade that |
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jcamins_away |
Didn't we just upgrade jQueryUI? |
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oleonard |
No |
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mtj |
bah, afaik we have the latest star-rating release -> http://www.fyneworks.com/jquery/star-rating |
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oleonard |
Yup |
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rangi |
so we'd have to fix it ourselves? |
| 20:51 |
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oleonard |
Wow, is there a jquery plugin we use which *doesn't* use .browser?! |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: probably not? |
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jcamins_away |
Seems like maybe removing .browser was a bit premature if everything depends on it. |
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oleonard |
There goes my plan for a quick and easy upgrade to jQuery 1.9 :( |
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jcamins_away |
:( |
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jcamins_away |
I don't suppose it was moved into a handy plugi? |
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jcamins_away |
*plugin? |
| 20:53 |
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mtj |
ah, i am wrong - we are some minor releases behind on the ratings code |
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mtj |
http://code.google.com/p/jquer[…]lugin/source/list |
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oleonard |
It's just the kind of mess I get myself into 20 minutes before I leave for the day. |
| 20:53 |
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mtj |
koha is on r41, latest is r46 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: those two patches that are through qa - it's ok to push them whenever you are ready :) |
| 20:54 |
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mtj |
the commits say ratings is only tested on jquery 1.4 |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: I will when I can. |
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wizzyrea |
coool thanks |
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mtj |
ah, thats an old commit from 2010 - ignore me :p |
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oleonard |
http://jquery-howto.blogspot.c[…]uery-version.html |
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mtj |
hey, heres some good news… theres only 1 reference for $.browser in the ratings code, for IE6 |
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mtj |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2854d;hb=HEAD#l17 |
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rangi |
IE6 ? |
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rangi |
i vote we just rip that out then :) |
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oleonard |
Seconded. |
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mtj |
ummm, yep! :p |
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rangi |
its irresponsible to allow ppl to use IE6 :) |
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jcamins_away |
jQuery doesn't work with IE6. |
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jcamins_away |
At least, not the jQuery in the 3.2 OPAC. |
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* oleonard |
is surprised by not particularly motivated by that statement |
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jcamins_away |
(no, that wasn't a typo... I don't use IE6, I just recall the jQuery in the OPAC didn't work on IE6) |
| 21:14 |
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rangi |
yeah supporting IE6 is not something we should spend time on |
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mtj |
pssh, so typical of 'the rock' to think the latest version of jquery was 1.6… :/ |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: I thought it was 1.4.2... |
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oleonard |
Okay, world problems solved, time to go home. See you all later. |
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mtj |
cya owen |
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cait |
oleonard++ #while he is not looking :) |
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rangi |
ohh cool a patch from datadoctor |
| 21:48 |
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rangi |
datadoctor: you are Fred P right? |
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rangi |
would you like me to tidy up your patch as i sign it off ... (you forgot to set you username and email in git config) |
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* rangi |
will do it and apologise later :) |
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datadoctor |
oh yeah |
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datadoctor |
Thanks! This is the first patch that I have made, and I think I neglected to configure my git properly. |
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datadoctor |
That's me Fred P! |
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datadoctor |
Thanks rangi! |
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rangi |
no worries testing it now and will tidy it up and sign off |
| 21:56 |
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rangi |
it works perfectly |
| 22:02 |
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rangi |
datadoctor: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=8401#c11 |
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huginn |
Bug 8401: critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Search term deleted from system preference content |
| 22:02 |
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magnuse |
datadoctor++ for the first patch! |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
congrats datadoctor |
| 22:03 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ for signing off on it |
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wizzyrea |
that's what 3 new developers this week :) |
| 22:05 |
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rangi |
yep |
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magnuse |
making it 200+ total?!? |
| 22:05 |
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rangi |
201 |
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magnuse |
w00t!!! |
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magnuse |
and so to bed |
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rangi |
sleep well |
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datadoctor |
see y'all! have a good evening / morning! |
| 22:16 |
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cait |
... there you go |
| 22:16 |
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rangi |
sweet :) |
| 22:16 |
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cait |
bug 8401 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8401 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Search term deleted from system preference content |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: http://memegenerator.net/instance/33524681 |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, tax time. |
| 23:04 |
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jcamins |
That time of year when you are presented with a 20-page document and told "if you fill out this, you'll be able to fill out your fifty page tax return." |
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jcamins |
Eww. The discount/tax rate are pretty hideous without those patches. |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
its a good improvement, if not perfect |
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rangi |
a ton better than before |
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* jcamins |
kills a tree. |
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jcamins |
Nice! |
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jcamins |
My git hook just informed me there weren't enough sign off lines. |
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cait |
oh? |
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cait |
did I forget? |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
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jcamins |
It was a patch to the history file. |
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jcamins |
I used git commit --no-verify. |
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cait |
ah right |
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jcamins |
But the point is, the hook worked. :) |
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aqualaptop |
bam, i'm in the cool club now :D |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
congratulations :) |
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* wizzyrea |
is waiting to see proof |
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* cjh |
is camping out git.kc |
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jcamins |
Proof! |
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jcamins |
Bah. Forgot to note that Corey was a new developer on the bug. |
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cjh |
jcamins: thanks! |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1012 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9179' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb0511a1c9e0005c6> / Add Corey Fuimaono to history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3f67ad024b6ee5185> / Bug 9179 - Incorrect capitalization in serials-collection.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff;h=a3cb99841ea5 |
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rangi |
http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 23:37 |
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cait |
cjh, wizzyrea: congratulations to corey from me :) |
| 23:37 |
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wizzyrea |
he's in channel :) |
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wizzyrea |
MrAgent075: |
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cjh |
aqualaptop++ #199 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, yeah, yeah... lots of patches passed QA. |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins++ aqualaptop++ MrAgent075++ cait++ |
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rangi |
it was the new developers bit i was showing |
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cait |
ah, was trying autocomplete with a lower case mr :) |
| 23:38 |
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cait |
MrAgent075: congratulations! :) |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha 200 developers!! this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 7 February 2013, at 2:00 UTC |
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wizzyrea |
rangi++ ibeardslee++ too, for... stuff |
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kathryn |
yayyy! |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
good night all! |
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rangi |
it'll be 201 pretty soon too |
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cait left #koha |
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rangi |
when datadoctors patch is pushed |
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cjh |
\o/ |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
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* jcamins |
contemplates his P&L and balance sheet statements. |
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jcamins |
I know these make sense to someone, but that person is not me right now. |
