IRC log for #koha, 2013-01-02

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01:27 jcamins_away @query mamdumah
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01:27 huginn jcamins_away: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Needs Signoff ,'s multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
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06:00 fertilizer Hi all - I need help with installation
06:01 fertilizer I'm not able to reach the web installer using localhost:8080
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06:58 cait @wunder
06:58 huginn cait: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
06:58 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:58 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.1°C (7:55 AM CET on January 02, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:01 cait happy new year magnuse!
07:03 magnuse happy new year cait and #koha!
07:04 magnuse @wunder boo
07:04 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
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07:15 mib_TM Hi anyone? I've got a question.
07:15 cait hi mib_TM
07:15 cait what is your question?
07:16 mib_TM Hello. In the setting "Allow/Disallow patrons to notify the library of changes to their contact information from the OPAC." where does the notification go to?
07:16 cait the patron fills out the form in teh patron account in the opac
07:16 cait when he submits
07:17 cait an email is sent to either the KohaAdminEmailAddress or the branch address - I am not totally sure
07:17 cait but it's one of those
07:17 cait and it requires that you have a mta configured on your server in order to work
07:18 mib_TM OK. any idea where i can check the email setting and what's a mta?
07:22 cait mail transfer agent
07:22 cait this is related to linux system administratoin
07:22 cait not koha
07:22 cait you have to enable your server to send mail
07:23 cait and the email settings are in the pref I mentioned and in the address information of your branches in administrationin Koha
07:26 mib_TM Fantastic. I'll check it out. 1 more question. How do I hide a bib record in OPAC?
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07:26 cait that's a bit more complicated
07:26 cait there are ways to do it
07:27 cait opachiddenitems (system pref) is one
07:27 cait it should hide the record when all items are hidden
07:27 cait and there is OpacSuppression
07:27 cait also a syspref
07:27 cait documentation?
07:27 wahanui documentation is at
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07:35 rangi hi magnuse, lds, cait and sophie_m
07:35 magnuse kia ora rangi!
07:35 magnuse new year, new possibilities
07:35 sophie_m hi rangi, magnuse, cait and happy new year !
07:37 cait hi sophie_m! happy new year!
07:38 rangi we are down to only 8 patches don't apply now!
07:39 cait nice!
07:39 magnuse yay!
07:40 cait bbl :)
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07:44 mveron Good morning #koha and Happy New Year to everyone
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07:48 rangi hi mveron :) happy new year
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07:48 mveron hi rangi :-) The same to you :-)
07:48 reiveune hello
07:49 rangi hi reiveune
07:49 mveron Happy new year reiveune :-)
07:49 reiveune Happy new year everybody :)
08:01 jajm hello
08:01 rangi hi jajm
08:02 jajm hi rangi
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08:21 kf good morning #koha and a happy new year :)
08:35 clrh hello and happy new year too :)
08:36 kf hi clrh - happy new year :)
08:37 clrh thx kf you too :)
08:39 mveron Hi kf - Es guets Nöis!  :-)
08:39 kf mveron, dir auch! :)
08:39 mveron :-)
08:43 mveron magnuse: Godt nytt år :-)
08:44 magnuse takk mveron ;-)
08:44 magnuse takk det samme, i mean
08:44 mveron :-)
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09:01 francharb hi
09:01 wahanui que tal, francharb
09:01 rangi hi francharb
09:01 kf happy new year francharb
09:01 francharb happy new year rangi kf!
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10:35 vfernandes hello :)
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10:47 paul_p good morning #koha , and happy new year !!!
10:47 kf happy new year paul_p
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11:10 vfernandes happy new year paul_p
11:24 kf happy new year vfernandes :)
11:24 vfernandes thanks kf, for you too :)
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13:21 kf morning oleonard :)
13:21 oleonard Hi
13:21 kf hi bywaterians and happy new year to everyone!
13:22 kf edveal or nengard: I can't access bywater's website - can you? it has always had long loading times for me, which others can't reproduce, so not sure it's only me again
13:22 nengard kf yes, i know about it
13:23 nengard but need someone to arrive that can fix it
13:23 nengard sorry about that
13:23 kf ah ok
13:23 kf no problem, but I will stop trying then :)
13:23 kf I was looking for that article about how the lost status works
13:27 oleonard khall: Don't forget test plans in your patches
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13:31 khall oleonard, thanks for the reminder : )=
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13:43 nengard kf - here it is cached
13:43 nengard http://webcache.googleusercont[…]=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
13:44 kf oh thx nengard! nengard++
13:45 kf nengard: trying to writ eup some documentation in German for our wiki
13:45 nengard great
13:45 nengard :)
13:46 * magnuse gets ready to pounce on jcamins_away at first sign of life
13:47 kf magnuse: ohoh :)
13:47 druthb !
13:47 jcamins_away Yes?
13:47 druthb @wunder 66046
13:47 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -11.4°C (7:45 AM CST on January 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
13:47 kf run!
13:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #10 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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13:47 jenkins_koha nengard: update accountlines faq
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13:47 jenkins_koha nengard: update accountlines faq
13:47 druthb brr!
13:48 magnuse @wunder boo
13:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (2:20 PM CET on January 02, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
13:48 druthb no fair!
13:48 magnuse forecast says we will have +7C in a few days
13:48 oleonard @wunder 45701
13:48 kf @wunder Konstanz
13:48 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -7.8°C (8:21 AM EST on January 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
13:49 druthb we're not even supposed to get up to 0 today.
13:49 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.6°C (2:45 PM CET on January 02, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
13:49 kf unusually warm here still
13:49 rambutan @wunder 64506
13:49 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in APRSWXNET St.Joseph MO US, Saint Joseph, Missouri is -8.9°C (7:17 AM CST on January 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
13:49 magnuse jcamins: the pubdate index zebra uses to sort result lists gets its value from 008pos7-10. do you think it would be possible to use 260$c too?
13:50 kf magnuse: I think the problem might be we need a different index for date range search and the pull down publication year search then
13:51 magnuse kf, ah, hadn't thought about that
13:51 jcamins magnuse: that's a bit problematic.
13:51 kf not sure how zebra handles numeric search when there is non-numeric data
13:51 kf but jared will know :)
13:51 magnuse #marcmustdie
13:52 jcamins It would be possible to use copydate instead of pubdate, but then sorting would be wrong for all non-typical dates.
13:54 kf nengard: so there is no difference in behaviour between lost, lots and paid for an dmissing?
13:54 nengard not that i have ever seen
13:54 magnuse ok, thanks folks. guess i better hack up a script to extract the year from 260$c and shove it into 008pos7-10
13:54 nengard if there is it's in the code and i'd love to know what it is
13:54 kf hm I see
13:54 kf I will try to do some testing, but my docs are for 3.6 anyway - so there might be recent changes
13:55 kf ...well... not really recent.
13:55 nengard i don't remember seeing any changes in the way lost is handled
13:55 nengard between then and now
13:55 kf that's good
13:55 kf well for the docs - I will let you know when I find out something new :)
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14:01 nengard kf our site is back up
14:01 kf thx :)
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15:18 gerundio hi all, happy new year
15:19 vfernandes hi gerundio, happy new year
15:21 vfernandes gerundio: 100 strings to complete the 3.8 translation
15:21 kf happy new year gerundio
15:22 gerundio vfernandes, nice going :)
15:22 gerundio we just made our koha installation available to the public
15:22 gerundio
15:22 vfernandes nice :)
15:23 gerundio still using the default look & feel, but waiting for our design team to work something out in the next few weeks
15:25 rambutan for some reason I can't access the opac here in the US - server not found
15:25 rambutan gerundio, do you have an IP address for it?
15:26 gerundio hmm, weird
15:26 gerundio let me check something then
15:26 druthb rambutan: I'm able to get there just fine
15:26 rambutan ok, well, huh
15:26 kf maybe just takes a little while longer
15:26 kf I can access it too (from Germany :) )
15:26 jcamins Yeah! Let's all slashdot gerundio's server!
15:27 gerundio[…]
15:27 jcamins It works for me.
15:27 gerundio all have the same IP there, no from the looks of it there's no DNS problem
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15:30 rambutan checking my DNS server, probably hasn't replicated fully yet
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15:45 kf hi gmcharlt - happy new year :)
15:48 gerundio the good thing about going live is that the complaints start flowing at a much higher and steady rate :D
15:49 vfernandes look at refine search... there is two commas in the autor
15:49 vfernandes i think this is a Koha bug
15:49 gerundio on the item editor form, the f field (barcode) has suspension points (3 dots)
15:49 gerundio clicking on it doesn't result in anything at all
15:50 gerundio should it?
15:50 gmcharlt kf: happy new year!
15:50 kf you have to activate autobarcode I think... or change the plugin it's linked to
15:50 kf gerundio: about the 3 dots
15:50 kf it is linked to a plugin, so the dots are correct, but the functionality is not active without the pref
15:51 paul_p jcamins = looking at changes in coding guidelines, I'd like to have some explanations about PERL14 (exports kept to an absolute minimum). I've nothing against it, but I'd like to understand what's the problem with export, and how we should limit them
15:51 gerundio kf, thanks for the prompt reply
15:51 paul_p jcamins (sorry, 1st of all = happy new year !!!! hoping it will be a year you'll come to Marseille :D )
15:55 jcamins paul_p: unnecessary exports pollute the global namespace, and encourage people to break encapsulation.
16:05 paul_p jcamins = but even without export, it's still possible to break encapsulation isn't it ?
16:06 reiveune bye
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16:07 paul_p ok, is helpfull = Exports pollute the namespace of the module user. If you must export try to use @EXPORT_OK in preference to @EXPORT and avoid short or common symbol names to reduce the risk of name clashes.
16:07 paul_p Generally anything not exported is still accessible from outside the module using the YourModule::item_name (or $blessed_ref->method ) syntax. By convention you can use a leading underscore on names to informally indicate that they are 'internal' and not for public use.
16:08 libsysguy isn't that what jcamins just said?
16:11 jcamins Yes.
16:11 jcamins But if you're breaking encapsulation with Module::procedure, you are not doing it accidentally.
16:16 paul_p libsysguy yes, that's what jcamins said
16:17 paul_p jcamins = should we try to REMOVE existing export in C4 ? or will there be no real gain doing that ?
16:18 jcamins paul_p: I would love to remove existing exports in C4.
16:18 jcamins Honestly I think it would be good to force all function calls in C4 to be explicitly scoped.
16:18 paul_p jcamins = why ? to improve maintainability or for another reason ?
16:18 jcamins Maintainability.
16:19 paul_p jcamins = would it just require s/ModBiblio(/C4::Biblio::ModBiblio(/ everywhere and removal of exporting modbiblio (for example) ?
16:19 jcamins I think so.
16:19 jcamins However, I'm not 100% sure, which is why I haven't done it.
16:20 paul_p jcamins = should I propose a workshop on that during the hackfest ?
16:20 jcamins That sounds like a good idea to me!
16:20 jcamins I may do an example, removing all the exports from, say, C4::HoldsQueue.
16:21 jcamins Actually, Srdjan did that one with EXPORT_OK, so all I'd have to do is make the calls explicitly scoped.
16:22 jcamins Changing everything to EXPORT_OK would also be a good step in the right direction.
16:24 jcamins To do it more gradually it'd be possible to change, for example, "use AuthoritiesMarc;" to "use AuthoritiesMarc ();" in C4/
16:25 kf will have to read back later - but leaving now :)
16:25 kf bye all :)
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16:40 vfernandes translation of 3.8 to portuguese finally finished :D
16:40 oleonard vfernandes++
16:41 vfernandes now I think I deserve a cold beer :P
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16:43 gerundio vfernandes++
16:44 vfernandes guys:[…]pref.po/download/
16:45 vfernandes permission error
16:47 rambutan wahanui, one Coral Tónica Stout for vfernandes please
16:47 wahanui rambutan: no idea
16:48 jcamins This may be of use to people coding for Plack:[…]Private_Variables
16:49 vfernandes maybe is a momentaneous error
16:49 vfernandes my question is now the following
16:49 jcamins gmcharlt: would it make sense to provide a out of the box?
16:50 vfernandes how to use this translations for koha 3.10
16:50 vfernandes ?
16:50 jcamins druthb just left, unfortunately... she'd be the one who could tell you.
16:51 gmcharlt jcamins: yeah, although if we were to do that, a bit of gold-plating to hook in an HTML editor and get the pages out of sysprefs would be nice
16:52 vfernandes i will ask to koha-translate list
16:52 gmcharlt but I'm all for the general idea of making a simple CMS a core feature
16:53 jcamins It seems like if we're writing instructions that tell people "make these small, easily maintable changes" we should just make the changes for them.
16:54 gmcharlt agreed
16:54 * jcamins channels Picard, and, with a Picardian gesture says to the room at large, "Make it so."
16:56 gmcharlt jcamins: that requires an RM-syspref to activate, but be warned that losing most of your hair is a mandatory side-effect
16:56 jcamins lol
17:00 vfernandes when upgrading from 3.2 to 3.8 there is some sysprefs that are remover?
17:01 vfernandes for example OAIPMHFileConf or something like that wasn't in koha 3.8 portuguese translations
17:01 jcamins vfernandes: there are some sysprefs that no longer used, but they aren't actually removed from the database.
17:02 jcamins vfernandes: oh, I understand what you mean.
17:02 jcamins Yes, many sysprefs were removed.
17:02 vfernandes but they should be removed from the .pref files
17:03 vfernandes because they appear in the interface
17:03 jcamins Right.
17:03 jcamins They may still be in the database, but not in the .pref files.
17:04 vfernandes in my Koha 3.8 installation the OAIPMHFileConf appears in the interface so it is in the .pref file
17:04 vfernandes but there is no translation for Koha
17:05 vfernandes what's wrong?
17:06 jcamins Did you install the preference translations?
17:06 jcamins They have to be installed separately?
17:06 jcamins .
17:07 vfernandes the download of pref.po isn't possible because of permission error.... but I've checked the translations and there is no one for OAI-PMH:ConfFile
17:07 vfernandes the syspref is in the web_service.pref
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17:09 vfernandes it was removed in the last Koha 3.8?
17:09 jcamins Doesn't look like it. Sounds like a problem with the po file.
17:10 jcamins druthb would be the person to talk to.
17:10 vfernandes I don't know if there is another syspref in this conditions
17:11 vfernandes I saw this example because it almost the last syspref
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17:42 fertilizer hey all
17:42 vfernandes druthb are you here?
17:42 druthb sort of.
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17:43 vfernandes one question: OAI-PMH:ConfFile appears on Koha interface, but not in Koha 3.8 portuguese translation of system preference
17:44 * cait waves
17:44 vfernandes there is any problem that can cause the problem?
17:44 druthb That's odd, vfernandes...i would have thought the files would  Can you send me an email as a reminder to look into it?
17:45 druthb (May take me a day or two; things are a leetle wild right now)
17:45 vfernandes ok... PM me with the email
17:45 cait happy new year druthb and vfernandes :)
17:45 vfernandes happy new year cait
17:45 druthb done!
17:45 fertilizer happy new year all
17:46 fertilizer would anyone be able to help me with a problem with installation? I can't reach the Koha web installer after setting everything up beforhand - I'm not sure if I missed something
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17:47 vfernandes thanks druthb... i will send a email now
17:47 druthb thanks oodles.
17:48 fertilizer everytime I try to reach localhost:8080 I get an error that tells me it's not able to reach the page
17:48 vfernandes did you copy the koha-httpd.conf to the apache?
17:51 fertilizer I have that conf in /etc/koha
17:51 vfernandes but you have to do a symbolic link to the apache site-available folder
17:52 vfernandes sudo ln -s /etc/koha/koha-http.conf /etc/apaches/sites-available
17:52 vfernandes sudo ln -s /etc/koha/koha-http.conf /etc/apaches/sites-available/koha
17:54 vfernandes done?
17:54 fertilizer Yeah, I created the link
17:55 rangi Also your ports.conf file needs Listen 8080
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17:55 rangi As well as Listen 80
17:55 vfernandes check /etc/apache/ports.conf and add Listen 8080
17:55 oleonard Hi rangi, happy new year
17:55 vfernandes yes do as Rangi said
17:56 vfernandes after adding the Listen 8080 you need to run 3 commands
17:56 vfernandes sudo a2enmod rewrite
17:56 vfernandes sudo a2ensite koha
17:56 vfernandes sudo service apache2 restart
17:57 vfernandes if everything worked fine the localhost:8080 should now be available via browser
17:57 cait morning rangi
17:58 fertilizer alright, let me try that
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18:03 fertilizer I confused having the file koha-http.conf file for koha-sites.conf
18:03 vfernandes it worked?
18:03 fertilizer no, it didn't becuase the link was linking to something that isn't there
18:04 fertilizer I'm checking /etc/koha/ and don't have that file - should I create it?
18:04 rangi Hi oleonard
18:04 vfernandes it should be there
18:05 vfernandes which option did you choose on the installation? standard, single?
18:06 fertilizer standard
18:06 wahanui standard is not so practical for that
18:06 fertilizer i installed koha-common
18:07 vfernandes if you choose standard then the file should be there
18:07 vfernandes ls /etc/koha/koha-http.conf
18:07 vfernandes nothing?
18:07 wahanui nothing is probably a requirement, we have guidelines though
18:08 fertilizer no such file
18:08 vfernandes locate koha-httpd.conf
18:08 vfernandes or find koha-httpd.conf
18:10 fertilizer locate turns up nothing, same with find
18:11 vfernandes sorry I can't help you more
18:11 vfernandes i have to go
18:11 fertilizer no worries - thanks for the help
18:13 jcamins fertilizer: if you used koha-common then everything should already be configured for you, other than the port.
18:13 jcamins You did the koha-create step?
18:13 fertilizer yeah, I created the instance
18:14 jcamins Then all you should need to do is add that Listen 8080 to ports.conf.
18:15 fertilizer I did that - under Listen 80?
18:15 jcamins Yes.
18:15 jcamins And what are you seeing after restarting Apache?
18:16 jcamins Also, did you set up your instance to use port 8080 using koha-sites.conf? If not, you'll need to edit your instance's configuration file to use 8080.
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18:18 mib_chnxgi I'm using sudo service apache2 restart and it is telling me that it's failing
18:19 libsysguy does it say why?
18:19 mib_chnxgi Invalid command 'DOMAIN=""'
18:19 mib_chnxgi I'm assuming that's because I linked to koha-sites.conf and not koha-httpd.conf
18:20 mib_chnxgi or I configured koha-sites.conf incorrectly
18:20 libsysguy that would probably do it
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18:21 jcamins Yes, you need to remove the link to koha-sites.conf.
18:26 mib_chnxgi I removed the link from /etc/apache2/sites-available/ yet it's still telling me that there is a dangling symlink
18:26 jcamins Remove it also from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
18:28 mib_chnxgi alright - did that and restarted apache
18:29 mib_chnxgi now I'm getting a 404 with localhost:8080
18:30 mib_chnxgi the INTRA port on koha-sites.conf reads 8080 - is it not supposed to?
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18:43 rangi My stop bbiab
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19:24 rangi hmm it appears you can sign up bypassing moderation on the wiki via openid .. however i suspect that is ok
19:25 rangi as i think only legit users would do that
19:26 * cait agrees
19:26 cait if spam gets a problem agian, we can still try to fix that
19:26 rangi yep
19:31 rangi does anyone have a phone or a tablet handy?
19:32 jcamins Yes.
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19:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #260 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 8 mo 9 days ago)
19:32 rangi
19:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #4: STILL FAILING in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Docs_3.10.x/4/
19:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #260: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/260/
19:32 rangi can you try that
19:32 jenkins_koha nengard: update cms appendix
19:32 jenkins_koha nengard: update cms appendix
19:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #11 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #11: SUCCESS in 15 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Docs_3.8.x/11/
19:32 jenkins_koha nengard: update cms appendix
19:32 rangi it should be responsive now
19:32 cait yay :)
19:33 jcamins Everything except for the title is.
19:33 rangi sweet
19:33 rangi i can live with that for now
19:34 rangi at least until i learn how to change that bit too
19:35 wizzyrea looks nice
19:35 wizzyrea one tiniest thing ever
19:35 wizzyrea if a status has 0 it shows nothing (see "passed qa")
19:36 rangi yep
19:36 rangi there is a space there
19:36 wizzyrea by design then? as in "this is totally green, no problem"
19:37 rangi well 0 in the passed qa is actually a problem :)
19:37 * cait hides
19:37 wizzyrea lol. fair enough
19:37 rangi but for most others yes 0 is good
19:40 gmcharlt nengard++
19:43 nengard :)
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19:53 cait martin++ #because I forgot his nick.
19:54 oleonard rangi: The link from the dashboard to the "needs signoff" search is broken
19:54 rangi works for me
19:55 rangi are you logged in to bugzilla?
19:55 oleonard Yes
19:55 oleonard I get " The search named Needs Signoff does not exist. "
19:55 rangi[…]off&list_id=49927
19:55 rangi does that one?
19:55 oleonard No
19:55 rangi do you see any saved searches along the bottom?
19:55 jcamins Works for me.
19:57 oleonard I do, rangi, including "Needs Signoff," which works. But if that link works for everyone else I'll just ignore it
19:57 rangi what is the link that works for you .. the list_id= bit
19:58 libsysguy is the debug var for koha DEBUG or KOHA_DEBUG?
19:58 oleonard rangi: 49931
19:58 jcamins DEBUG
19:58 libsysguy sweet
19:58 rangi[…]ab=saved-searches
19:58 libsysguy jcamins++
19:58 rangi what do you see there?
19:59 rangi i think you have a sep needs signoff set up
20:01 oleonard Hah, every time I click the "needs signoff" link in the footer the list_id number increments
20:03 wizzyrea[…]un&namedcmd=Needs Signoff&sharer_id=1 seems to work?
20:04 rangi ahh yeah
20:04 rangi it will :)
20:05 cait i think easiest is to save the search url
20:05 cait but they get big
20:06 jcamins The search URL is a list of every single bug that is _currently_ needs signoff, though, so that won't work.
20:06 jcamins The remembered search link from wizzyrea is probably best.
20:06 cait hm
20:07 cait[…]n=Needs%20Signoff
20:07 cait does this work?
20:08 cait it's what I have in my wiki list of links
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20:17 cait ohok
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20:22 jcamins bug 9014
20:22 jcamins Nooooo!!!! huginn!!!!
20:23 jcamins gmcharlt: alas, poor huginn, I knew him well!
20:23 * cait weeps
20:23 cait wb wizzyrea
20:24 * oleonard likes that Chatzilla has automatic linking of bug numbers
20:24 jcamins I just switched which screen I was in.
20:24 jcamins I have a bash alias for "bug XXXX"
20:24 jcamins (the XXXX is not part of the alias, obviously)
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20:37 eythian hi
20:39 wizzyrea whaddup :)
20:39 eythian the roof.
20:40 eythian wahanui: we don't need no water
20:40 wahanui Are you CRAZY?  The roof is ON FIRE!
20:40 jcamins lol
20:40 cait hi eythian
20:40 eythian hello cait
20:46 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:46 cait eythian: happy new year :)
20:46 cait oh, huginn!!
20:46 wahanui huginn is a bot too veera, not a person
20:47 eythian cait: and to you :)
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20:54 gmcharlt and like a phoenix ...
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20:55 cait gmcharlt++
20:55 rangi :)
20:55 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:55 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.3°C (9:50 PM CET on January 02, 2013). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
20:55 cait br.
20:55 rangi @wunder nzwn
20:55 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 03, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
20:55 wizzyrea at least it's not blowing like it was yesterday
20:56 eythian yeah, that was really quite something
20:56 eythian I noticed the footpaths were littered with branches this morning
20:56 wizzyrea that's rather unusual
20:56 wizzyrea I guess that's what happens when two high pressure systems bump uglies.
20:56 eythian yeah
20:57 eythian there was snow in the south, too
20:57 wizzyrea and flooding and stuff.
20:57 wizzyrea all through canterbury, I read.
20:57 eythian more like west coast, I think
20:57 cait oh don't tell me...
20:57 eythian and fiordland
20:57 cait can someone try a search for patron category and any library in master?
20:57 eythian possibly canterbury too
20:58 cait patron category student or whatever
20:58 rangi snow too
20:58 rangi at oamaru
20:58 rangi well the ranges by there
20:58 wizzyrea yea doesn't work :(
20:58 cait eek
20:58 wizzyrea eek indeed.
20:58 rangi git bisect
20:58 wahanui git bisect is our friend here
20:58 cait wizzyrea: is paging broken for you too? not sure I see eenough borrowers
20:59 cait and the allphabet thing is not showing up when I do a search for somrthing with results
20:59 jcamins There's a patch for that.
20:59 cait and the categorycode has vanished and only left a () in the result list
20:59 jcamins Bug 7919.
20:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7919 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes)
20:59 rangi oh yeah
20:59 wizzyrea ah yep, i was just thinking about that
20:59 rangi relax
20:59 cait phew
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20:59 rangi i signed it off :)
20:59 cait will it fix all 3 problems?
21:00 rangi wahanui: relax?
21:00 wahanui[…]150656/hE2C391FC/
21:00 wizzyrea @quote add rangi: relax, I signed it off :)
21:00 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:00 cait hehe
21:00 wizzyrea @quote add rangi: relax, I signed it off :)
21:00 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #229 added.
21:00 rangi cait: i think so
21:01 cait oh that is weird
21:01 cait I amprinting a slip with bug 9014
21:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add time due to slips
21:01 cait and it shows 08:59 PM
21:01 cait but
21:01 cait my system time is 9:59 PM
21:02 wizzyrea cait - that patch fixes the search for me
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21:08 cait wizzyrea: thx! going to look at that patch now :)
21:08 cait bug 9014
21:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add time due to slips
21:13 cait wizzyrea: hm I think the browse by last name thing is still broken - but it's probably a different bug
21:14 wizzyrea you mean clicking the letter?
21:14 cait yep
21:14 cait click one letter and on the next page the alphabet is missing
21:14 cait and [Wed Jan 02 22:11:54 2013] [error] [client] [Wed Jan  2 22:11:54 2013] Use of uninitialized value in anonymous hash ({}) at /home/katrin/kohaclone/members/ line 815., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]members/
21:14 cait in the logs - I am filing a new bug
21:14 wizzyrea lulz  I don't have enough patrons in my db to flip over.
21:14 cait ah not paging
21:14 cait just clck a and look at the top of the list
21:15 cait it still says browse by last name
21:15 cait but there is no alphabet
21:15 wizzyrea right - here's what I think
21:15 wizzyrea I think it is telling you that "here are all the A's"
21:15 cait hm I think that used to work differently
21:15 wizzyrea if you had more than one page... what happens then?
21:16 cait wizzyrea: but is there a reason that the alphabet would vanish?
21:16 * wizzyrea goes to look in 3.6
21:16 wizzyrea and/or 3.8
21:17 cait 3.8 should work - I think it happened when the alphabet got moved into a syspref
21:17 cait for I18N
21:18 wizzyrea oh that could totally be
21:18 wizzyrea but yea, not related to the category thing
21:18 jcamins cait: really? I thought that was always how it worked.
21:18 * cait checks in 3.8
21:19 cait but i am quite sure
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21:22 cait ok, in 3.8 you can enter an empty search and it gives you all patrons
21:23 cait you can't on master
21:23 wizzyrea yea, you're right
21:23 wizzyrea I just checked 3.6 (cuz that's what I had handy that wasn't master)
21:23 cait and the alphabet is always visible
21:23 wizzyrea yep, it about has to do with that syspref.
21:23 wizzyrea did you file a bug?
21:23 cait ok, for tha all patron search - is that a bug?
21:23 cait Iwould think so?
21:24 cait yep, typing on it :)
21:24 wizzyrea yep, I would call that a regression wouldn't you?
21:24 libsysguy rangi you around?
21:24 rangi yep
21:24 libsysguy I need some sage advice
21:24 libsysguy I added some deps to Installer/
21:24 libsysguy and rebuilt
21:25 cait wizzyrea: I agree
21:25 libsysguy however, I noticed after a git add -u I get a whole lot of crap in debian/control
21:25 cait I will try to qa the patch on 7919 andnote that we will need another fix
21:25 libsysguy link[…]14371&action=diff
21:25 wizzyrea naw, it's not related to that
21:25 cait hm
21:25 cait ok
21:25 wizzyrea the alphabet thing isn't
21:25 cait I will check he logs
21:25 wizzyrea the patron search works
21:25 cait ah no, I have filed that separately
21:25 wizzyrea for categories, with that patch on
21:25 cait bug 9337
21:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9337 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Alphabet for browsing patrons by last name not visible after performing a patron search
21:25 wizzyrea but yea, qa that
21:26 wizzyrea 7919
21:26 rangi you didnt run apt-file
21:26 cait it will make things abit better I hope, and then maybe a new bug for the regression
21:26 wizzyrea cool ty
21:26 cait no, thank you for confirming
21:26 rangi and or you installed those modules via cpan
21:26 rangi instead of properly via packages :)
21:26 cait quite tired tonight and sometimes not sure if I am imagining things or doing something stupid :)
21:26 libsysguy :D
21:27 libsysguy i did install those modules via cpan
21:27 * wizzyrea gives libsysguy "the eye"
21:27 libsysguy because they aren't in main for deb
21:27 wizzyrea you know the one.
21:27 libsysguy they are in backports :'(
21:27 rangi nope they are all in squeeze
21:27 rangi barring i think 3 or 4
21:27 libsysguy lies :p
21:27 rangi wanna bet
21:27 * libsysguy ducks
21:27 libsysguy no
21:27 libsysguy hehehe
21:28 rangi EEEK: unknown package for CGI,
21:28 libsysguy not all the ones listed in my foobared file
21:28 rangi 222 EEEK: unknown package for Class::Accessor,
21:28 libsysguy just the deps I added
21:28 libsysguy CGI::Emulate::PSGI
21:28 libsysguy and CGI::Compile
21:29 rangi did you run apt-file
21:29 libsysguy I did not
21:29 rangi try that
21:29 libsysguy is that a regular package command?
21:29 eythian apt-file update specifically
21:29 rangi and if they aren't in squeeze, you cant add them to that file anyway, until they are packaged for squeeze
21:30 rangi well you can
21:30 rangi but we wont be able to build packages until they are :)
21:30 eythian also, if you have the repo in place, it'll see all the ones in there (which are a few that aren't in the main repo)
21:30 eythian There is one that won't be found. It's non-essential and we have no license to redistribute it, so it's never going to go in.
21:30 libsysguy well none of these are in sid ;)
21:31 libsysguy well I feel dumb…I was like apt-file doesn't work…oh I have to get it with apt-get :p
21:32 eythian yeah, you have to install it :)
21:32 libsysguy so after apt-file update it should fix debian/control
21:32 libsysguy TIL about apt-file
21:32 eythian it'll at least improve it
21:32 cait wizzyrea: rtested in 3.10 - the empty search doens't work there too *sigh*
21:32 cait so somewhere between now and 3.8
21:34 eythian git bisect will help you find it
21:34 cait i know
21:34 cait but not tonight
21:35 eythian fair enough
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21:48 libsysguy hey rangi after running apt-file update I still have all the EEEK errors...
21:49 rangi hmm
21:49 wizzyrea cait did you try it with the patch for 7919?
21:49 cait wizzyrea: yes?
21:49 wizzyrea and it's still broken?
21:49 cait yep
21:49 wizzyrea oh wait the alphabet thing?
21:49 * wizzyrea is confused.
21:49 cait both
21:49 cait wizzyrea: forget the alphabet
21:49 wahanui cait: I forgot alphabet
21:49 eythian libsysguy: did you re-run debian/update-control again?
21:49 cait not you whanui!
21:49 wizzyrea lol.
21:49 eythian and also, does apt-file behave when you do it by hand?
21:50 * wizzyrea notes that listening to IRC is simply madness.
21:50 libsysguy i didn't, I did re-run make
21:50 libsysguy I didn't know what compiled it
21:50 eythian I don't think make regenerates the control file
21:50 libsysguy and the only thing I had run was a make
21:51 cait wizzyrea: I filed a bug
21:51 cait for both
21:51 cait one each
21:51 wizzyrea ok cool
21:51 cait lol
21:51 cait and we will see what happens... probably nothing.
21:51 libsysguy eythian: when I run apt-file update I get the 3 packages I added and a time counter of some kind
21:51 libsysguy im running update-control
21:51 eythian yes, that's because it's updating your apt-file database
21:51 libsysguy ah
21:52 * libsysguy wishes there was a way to delete comments in bz
21:52 cait ... or correct typos
21:53 libsysguy or not add the commit message every time
21:53 jcamins_away libsysguy: it would be possible to modify git-bz.
21:54 libsysguy you tired of getting my update emails jcamins_away
21:54 eythian the commit message is a good thing, I think.
21:54 eythian it doesn't really matter if you end up with five of them on a bug
21:54 cait I agree
21:54 wizzyrea i like getting the commit message.
21:54 jcamins_away libsysguy: nah, I don't see any reason to disable it.
21:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7919' into 3.12-master <[…]553d8448686efbddd> / Bug 7919: FIX the "all" categories method <[…]2407c71a9f1be1b0e>
21:58 rangi 666?
21:58 rangi are we insane?
21:58 libsysguy i didn't 666 is
21:58 libsysguy it**
21:59 rangi i know, you are being told to though ;)
21:59 rangi just making sure you ignore that idea
21:59 libsysguy i 775-ed it :p
21:59 jcamins_away 664 would be better, if the socket doesn't need +x.
21:59 libsysguy yeah I thought I might…does the zebra script really use 666
22:00 jcamins_away libsysguy: I hope not.
22:01 libsysguy I suppose it would be a better idea to put the pid file in lock
22:04 eythian eh? pid files don't go in lock
22:04 rangi if the zebra one is 666 it will be zebrasrv doing that for the socket
22:04 rangi not anything we did
22:04 libsysguy ah
22:06 eythian what socket is 666 anyway?
22:06 rangi bibliosocket
22:06 rangi and authoritysocket
22:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #1001 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:06 eythian ah right
22:07 rangi srw-rw-rw- 1 ashs-koha ashs-koha 0 Dec  2 02:42 /var/run/koha/ashs/bibliosocket
22:07 eythian yeah
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22:10 jcamins_away We should probably make the socket 660, actually.
22:10 rangi we dont make the socket
22:10 jcamins_away I meant the Plack socket.
22:10 rangi ah yep
22:10 libsysguy ahh okay thats better
22:11 libsysguy let me see if it still fires with that
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22:12 jcamins Does anyone else have an en-* translation installed?
22:12 lms left #koha
22:12 eythian jcamins: yeah, sometimes
22:12 jcamins eythian: I meant, right now.
22:13 eythian jcamins: and if you're asking "does it not work right", I'd have to say "yes"
22:13 jcamins I'm seeing a rather strange bug.
22:13 jcamins I can't switch to regular en.
22:13 eythian oh
22:13 eythian the bug I usually see is that I can't not have regular en, even if something else is selected.
22:14 jcamins Well, that's probably also a bug.
22:14 jcamins (but a different one)
22:14 eythian it is. been meaning to send in a patch.
22:14 eythian maybe do that today
22:17 jcamins Okay, it's the display.
22:17 rangi 7919 wont apply on 3.10.x but I think that is ok eh?
22:17 jcamins Yes.
22:18 rangi cool
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22:59 moodaepo @wunder Atlanta, GA
22:59 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in Pace Academy, Atlanta, Georgia is 7.3°C (5:47 PM EST on January 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
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23:06 mib_dwku8a Hello people!
23:06 wizzyrea hi there
23:07 mib_dwku8a Do you know went is the next release of Koha
23:07 wizzyrea May 2013, I think.
23:07 jcamins mib_dwku8a: 3.12.0 will be released May 22, 2013. 3.10.2 will be released January 22, 2013.
23:07 eythian depends which release you mean, really
23:08 jcamins 3.8.whatever will also be released January 22, 2013.
23:08 * wizzyrea was going only for feature releases
23:08 mib_dwku8a 3.12
23:08 jcamins Yes. May 22.
23:08 jcamins Ish.
23:08 jcamins Why?
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23:09 mib_dwku8a im making mi own fix with the software until may
23:09 jcamins Depending on what you are looking for, you may not need to wait that long.
23:10 jcamins If you have patched a bug, you should contribute your patch to the community.
23:10 jcamins And if it is a bug, the fix will probably be backported to 3.10.x.
23:10 jcamins What is the problem you have encountered?
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23:10 mib_dwku8a i know, but i have fix a lot of things and i dont know is really 100%
23:11 jcamins That's not a good way to do things.
23:11 jcamins I promise you, you will run into way more problems doing that than by fixing problems and contributing them back to Koha.
23:12 jcamins I speak from experience.
23:13 jcamins A lot of people have tried just fixing their own installations, and almost all of them have ended up on #koha asking for help with upgrading.
23:13 mib_dwku8a is true but my jobs need a lot of reports and features i dont know how to begin
23:13 jcamins git?
23:13 wahanui rumour has it git is[…]Control_Using_Git
23:13 jcamins ^^ start at the very beginning
23:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1001: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1001/
23:15 jenkins_koha jonathan.druart: Bug 7919: FIX the "all" categories method
23:15 eythian <-- rangi (et al)
23:15 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7919 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes)
23:16 rangi oh cool
23:16 jcamins Yay! Success!
23:16 jcamins mib_dwku8a: reports do not require any code changes.
23:16 jcamins sql reports library?
23:16 wahanui i guess sql reports library is at[…]L_Reports_Library
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23:47 wizzyrea man I miss being near-time-zone to oleonard.
23:53 eythian
23:53 wizzyrea hehehe - I had one of those

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