IRC log for #koha, 2012-12-28

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00:02 jcamins_away It seems to have been fixed. Could you please confirm?
00:02 wizzyrea oh no, you will still need that
00:02 wizzyrea it's still doing that string with single quotes
00:02 wizzyrea let me triple check that
00:03 wizzyrea because my brain is not quite right today :)
00:03 wizzyrea yep, you'll still need to make that change
00:04 wizzyrea in 6574
00:04 wizzyrea +    var is_confirmed = window.confirm(_('Are you sure you want to renew this patron\'s registration?'));
00:04 wizzyrea needs to be double quoted.
00:04 jcamins_away Why don't I see any Javascript errors?
00:04 wizzyrea I can do a follow up for 6261 if you like
00:04 wizzyrea it's not a javascript error
00:04 wizzyrea it's a translation error
00:04 jcamins_away A new patch on 6574 would be better.
00:05 wizzyrea and you don't see it bc you're not using en-nz or en-gb
00:05 jcamins_away I switched to en-GB.
00:05 jcamins_away But I thought I was looking for a javascript error.
00:05 wizzyrea did you re-run the translations?
00:06 jcamins_away Yes.
00:06 wizzyrea the problem is in the toolbar, it doesn't show in enGB
00:07 jcamins_away Okay, there it is.
00:07 jcamins_away Yeah, a new patch on 6574 is needed.
00:07 wizzyrea okie dokie
00:07 wizzyrea you are going to push 6261
00:07 wizzyrea ?
00:07 jcamins_away I did, yes.
00:07 jcamins_away All pushed. :)
00:07 wizzyrea cool I'll grab it and fix it up
00:08 wizzyrea ftr, I love git aliases.
00:08 jcamins_away Me too!
00:10 jcamins_away I have a lot of great git aliases.
00:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9284' into 3.12-master <[…]4bbaa84542d4c12e5> / Bug 9284 - JavaScript should follow rules recommended by JSHint <[…]0705163ba0218549d> / Merge branch 'bug_8299' into 3.12-master <[…]git;a=commitdiff;
00:11 cait jcamins_away: I have none - what am I missing out on?
00:11 jcamins_away Wonderfulness!
00:11 cait jcamins_away: do you remember a while back there was a bug that broke deleting authorized values?
00:11 wizzyrea being able to
00:11 cait I thought I had seen you talking abou tthat but I can't find a bug
00:12 cait but it seems mirko ran into it on 3309
00:12 wizzyrea git qa 6544 and have it check out master, fetch & rebase, then create a branch called qa-6544, then git bz apply 6544
00:12 wizzyrea for example
00:13 wizzyrea it reduces dumb mistakes like checking out your qa branch from the wrong spot
00:14 cait ah ok
00:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #997 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
00:17 jcamins_away cait:[…]refs/heads/master
00:18 wizzyrea oh I need your t
00:19 jcamins_away I'm going to have to revise my increment script.
00:19 jcamins_away t?
00:19 wizzyrea your t gitalias ;)
00:19 jcamins_away Ah. Yes.
00:19 jcamins_away I actually don't use it anymore.
00:20 jcamins_away takes care of it for me.
00:20 wizzyrea yea but sometimes you just want to run the tests
00:20 wizzyrea for fun and profit.
00:20 wizzyrea or something.
00:20 wahanui something is wrong....
00:20 jcamins_away True.
00:22 * cait bookmarks
00:22 cait jcamins_away: thx :) but no idea about the bug?
00:23 jcamins_away Yes, I pushed a fix.
00:23 jcamins_away I think.
00:29 cait hm
00:30 wizzyrea cait: easy signoff - bug 6574
00:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6574 normal, P5 - low, ---, liz, Needs Signoff , js error in en-GB template breaks circulation toolbar
00:31 cait hm
00:31 cait jcamins_away: deltion works, but there is a bad error in the logs
00:31 cait [Fri Dec 28 01:29:26 2012] [error] [client] [Fri Dec 28 01:29:26 2012] DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'id' in 'where clause' at /home/katrin/kohaclone/admin/ line 228., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]OC&id=17&offset=0
00:33 jcamins_away Okay, that means I didn't push the patch.
00:33 cait hm or you did
00:34 cait 228 is part of the connexion library patch
00:34 cait acbfe26c
00:34 jcamins_away Yeah, so it wasn't pushed yet.
00:35 cait ah ok
00:35 cait do you have a patch?
00:35 cait wantme to report a bug linked to the connexion one?
00:36 jcamins_away There's a patch somewhere.
00:36 jcamins_away Or at least a bug.
00:36 jcamins_away It probably says "Plack" somewhere.
00:36 cait hm
00:36 cait I am not using plack and getting the error
00:37 cait and it does delete, but shows me the error in the logs
00:37 jcamins_away Yes, I am telling you what the bug says.
00:37 jcamins_away It says "Plack" somewhere.
00:39 cait bug 9272
00:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9272 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Plack goes into paroxysms of horror when faced with deleting an authorized value
00:39 wizzyrea lol, you should have searched for "paroxysms"
00:39 wizzyrea because that's the memorable word there.
00:40 jcamins_away lol
00:40 jcamins_away I was close.
00:41 druthb @quote add wizzyrea: lol, you should have searched for "paroxysms"
00:41 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded.  Quote #227 added.
00:48 cait hehe
00:53 jcamins_away Hm.
00:54 jcamins_away Apparently using skip in the unit tests is non-trivial.
00:54 wizzyrea hehe that's gonna show in the dashboard now
00:54 cait jcamins_away: oh?
00:55 jcamins_away Yeah, I just tried adding a bunch of skips, and it didn't work.
00:58 cait what did it say?
00:59 jcamins_away Nothing.
00:59 wahanui nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though
00:59 jcamins_away It only ran 31 tests instead of 35.
00:59 jcamins_away Which is not how skip is supposed to work.
01:00 jcamins_away There were four tests that weren't skipped or run.
01:04 jcamins_away Maybe we should put the test in t/experimental/ as-is.
01:05 cait maybe
01:07 jcamins_away Or, I suppose, just skip everything if the right version of DBD::Mock isn't available.
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01:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #997: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/997/
01:22 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9289 - Adjacent checkbox behavior broken on
01:22 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6261 [Revised] Consolidate patron toolbar include files
01:22 jenkins_koha * srikanth: Bug 8712 - We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility
01:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9289 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Adjacent checkbox behavior broken on
01:22 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 8299 - shows error messages
01:22 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9284 - JavaScript should follow rules recommended by JSHint
01:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Consolidate patron toolbar include files
01:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
01:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8299 normal, P5 - low, ---, nikhilvr0, Pushed to Master , shows warning messages
01:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9284 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , JavaScript should conform to coding guidelines recommended by JSHint
01:25 jcamins_away Could someone please sign off on the follow-up to bug 9209 and confirm that if you don't have a new version of DBD::Mock it doesn't do anything?
01:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9209 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Mocked Koha::Calendar tests
02:19 jcamins_away Hey... what is the heading when you look at a system preferences page?
02:19 wizzyrea 1s
02:20 jcamins_away I'm seeing "authorities.pref preferences" which seems... not right.
02:20 wizzyrea koha -> Administration -> System preferences
02:20 jcamins_away Right below that.
02:20 wizzyrea hmmI'll just screencap
02:20 wizzyrea :)
02:20 wizzyrea then you can see
02:21 jcamins_away Thanks.
02:21 jcamins_away The syspref editor feels wrong to me, and I don't know if it is.
02:21 wizzyrea
02:21 jcamins_away Oh.
02:22 jcamins_away My brain. It has the dumb.
02:22 jcamins_away It helps if you are looking at the English interface.
02:23 wizzyrea oh, but you know what
02:23 wizzyrea I *have* seen what you are talking about
02:23 wizzyrea and it's in translations
02:23 cait i think it's a translation error maybe
02:23 wizzyrea yes, it has to be
02:23 wizzyrea everything works
02:23 cait from the po file
02:23 wizzyrea but the buttons are labeled wrong... just one min
02:23 cait if you don't skip the first part
02:23 wizzyrea gah I can't remember who I was looking at that had that now >.<
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02:24 wizzyrea cait I'm not sure what you mean?
02:24 wizzyrea and why are you awake!
02:24 cait sorry :)
02:24 cait jared said: (03:18:50) jcamins_away: I'm seeing "authorities.pref preferences" which seems... not right.
02:24 cait and I think hat's because the string should not have the authorities.pref part
02:25 wizzyrea ah yea here it is
02:26 jcamins_away Yep. Exactly what I'm seeing.
02:26 wizzyrea do note that is not in the default language
02:28 wizzyrea cait I'm not sure what you mean "if you don't skip the first part"
02:28 cait don't translate it
02:28 cait it's only for orientation like the comments
02:29 cait i18n_10n.pref preferences translates to preferences only
02:29 wizzyrea oh, I see, I think
02:29 cait the pref file... has some special rules
02:30 wizzyrea gotya
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02:32 cait i got it wrong the first time ... that's why I remember
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02:49 * chris_n notes that the weasels are at it again
02:50 wizzyrea holy crap not good bug 9325
02:50 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9325 critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , overdue notices sent same messages for all users.
02:51 wizzyrea very not super bad not good
02:51 jcamins_away @later tell magnuse[…]Plugin-MARC-0.02/
02:51 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
02:52 chris_n ouch, that is bad
02:53 rangi i wonder how it happened, must have been a recent change
02:54 rangi because that definitely didnt use to happen
02:54 wizzyrea no, definitely not
02:55 wizzyrea and it's not happening in 3.8, that I've heard of
02:55 rangi nope
02:55 rangi id have libraries yelling
02:55 wizzyrea and BOY would people &^^^^^ that
02:55 jcamins_away I just tested overdues a few days ago and it worked.
02:55 jcamins_away It must have been a side effect of something else.
02:56 rangi *nod*
02:56 jcamins_away Well, seemed to work.
02:56 jcamins_away Honestly, overdues make no sense to me.
02:56 wizzyrea if only because it has to do with money and issues and privacy
02:56 wizzyrea scary things.
02:57 rangi well its pretty easy to spot if 2 ppl get the same message, run overdues and check the message queue table
02:57 wizzyrea jcamins_away: I will look at that maybe this weekend - that's a no good very bad bug
02:57 wizzyrea it can't sit
02:57 rangi for something like that, i dont like having a patch
02:57 rangi i like to see a git bisect
02:57 rangi showing where the error crept in
02:58 jcamins_away Yeah, especially with the proposed patch.
02:58 rangi i found the commit
02:58 rangi 40f9914e60e002ae4cbf10d09cff8bbf32abd8fe
02:58 rangi my $letter = parse_letter(
02:58 rangi {   letter_code     => $overdue_rules->{"letter$i"},
02:58 rangi +                        letter          => $letter_template,
02:59 jcamins_away Hmm.
02:59 jcamins_away But I just ran overdues and had different letters.
02:59 jcamins_away And that was pushed three months ago.
03:00 rangi yep, but would only be in 3.10.x
03:00 rangi thats the line that introduces passing the template
03:00 rangi im not sure about the bug tho, or the patch
03:00 rangi because i cant reproduce
03:01 wizzyrea yea it will need to be reproduced
03:01 wizzyrea for sure
03:01 jcamins_away I don't like the patch.
03:01 rangi nope
03:02 jcamins_away I try not to reject patches on the basis that "I don't like it," but I think that's one I would.
03:02 rangi well it has no test plan
03:03 jcamins_away Well, yeah, it was going to fail for that anyway.
03:03 jcamins_away But even with a test plan, I don't like it.
03:03 jcamins_away The way he's fixing the problem is wrong. It's just a band-aid, and not a logical one.
03:03 chris_n <chant>revert</chant>
03:04 rangi well id like to see the problem recreated first
03:04 jcamins_away Me too.
03:04 jcamins_away But if the problem happens there, it could happen somewhere else.
03:05 jcamins_away If that variable has to be copied, it needs to be copied in C4::Letters.
03:06 jcamins_away Or the POD needs to reflect what that routine does.
03:06 rangi sub parse_letter is in that script
03:07 jcamins_away parse_letter is just a wrapper around C4::Letters::GetProcessedLetter.
03:07 rangi yes, but before it was GetPreparedLetter
03:07 rangi and it didnt pass  letter => $params->{'letter'}
03:08 rangi copying it in the C4:: sub makes no sense
03:09 jcamins_away If GetProcessedLetter isn't supposed to modify its parameters (and the POD is unclear but suggests to me that it's not), that is where the read-only limitation needs to be enforced.
03:09 jcamins_away Though that particular idiom is dreadful anywhere.
03:10 rangi yes
03:10 rangi $params->{'letter'}->{'title'} = NFC($params->{'letter'}->{'title'});
03:10 rangi its certainly modifying them
03:11 jcamins_away In which case this POD needs to be fixed.
03:11 * jcamins_away doesn't understand what the code is supposed to do, so won't try and document it.
03:11 rangi basically you give it a letter
03:12 rangi it does a bunch of stuff to it
03:12 rangi and hands it back
03:12 rangi $letter->{title} =~ s/<<$token>>/$val/g;
03:12 rangi etc etc
03:13 jcamins_away Hm. So really the only change needed in the POD is "Return value: letter fields hashref (title & content useful)
03:13 rangi its a hashref tho, so it will modify the values, so yes if you want to keep a copy, make a copy before you pass it, however, it should be making a new letter each borrower
03:13 jcamins_away " => "Returns a reference to the processed letter"
03:13 rangi return $letter;
03:13 rangi yeah
03:14 jcamins_away Because to me that first one tells me that it's creating a hashref of the letter fields, in which case I would expect any copying to be in C4.
03:14 chris_n is it really making a copy or a "pointer"?
03:15 jcamins_away chris_n: pointer, but the documentation doesn't say that.
03:15 rangi the problem here is
03:15 rangi my $letter = parse_letter(
03:15 rangi {   letter_code     => $overdue_rules->{"letter$i"},
03:15 rangi letter          => $letter_template,
03:16 jcamins_away As I read it, that should probably be "letter => C4::Letters::GetLetter ( module => 'circulation', letter_code => $overdue_rules->{"letter$i"}, branchcode => $branchcode);
03:17 jcamins_away (though possibly not all on one line)
03:17 rangi its trying to be effecient fetch the template once of each of the 3 codes
03:17 rangi while ( my $overdue_rules = $rqoverduerules->fetchrow_hashref ) {
03:17 rangi my $letter_template = C4::Letters::GetLetter (
03:18 jcamins_away Efficiency is good, but that weird copy thing makes it hard to understand.
03:18 jcamins_away ... as demonstrated by the fact that it took you fifteen minutes to explain what it was supposed to do.
03:19 rangi well its not copying, you pass a hashref to it, it modifies it, hands it back
03:19 rangi the problem is that its passing the same hashref all the time, and it should be different per borrower
03:19 jcamins_away Right. I meant the weird copying thing that Jonathan does in his patch.
03:20 chris_n stupid firefox
03:20 rangi oh  yeah, that should be done outside the call, probably up near the
03:20 rangi while ( my ( $borrowernumber, $firstname, $lastname, $address1, $address2, $city, $postcode, $country, $email ) = $sth->fetchrow )
03:20 chris_n always crashing at the wrong time
03:20 rangi line
03:20 wizzyrea there is a good time?
03:21 chris_n it did it good this time
03:21 chris_n there's no process for it, but it still refuses to start
03:21 * chris_n whips out chrome
03:21 wizzyrea oh i've had that happen
03:22 chris_n ouch
03:22 * chris_n discovers his file system is ro
03:22 chris_n not good
03:22 jcamins_away chris_n: double-plus ungood.
03:23 rangi[…]ug.cgi?id=9325#c2
03:23 huginn Bug 9325: critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , overdue notices sent same messages for all users.
03:23 * chris_n heads off for a reboot.... at least
03:24 jcamins_away Miracle of miracles! I can revert it.
03:24 chris_n bbiab
03:25 rangi did that make sense?
03:25 rangi try and fix that bug 8378 a better way
03:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
03:25 jcamins_away That makes sense to me.
03:25 rangi cool
03:27 jcamins_away There should be a separate bug for the Unicode stuff.
03:27 rangi yeah i think thats what actually introduced the problem
03:32 wizzyrea oh yea, and there's the original report of the bug too - irritating.
03:32 wizzyrea disk is cheap, make a new bug.
03:34 rangi[…]g.cgi?id=8378#c19
03:34 huginn Bug 8378: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
03:34 jcamins_away Okay, I am going to revert 8378.
03:35 rangi[…]14069&action=diff same fix
03:35 rangi but yeah reverting it is the best option
03:35 rangi and now hometime
03:39 jcamins_away Bedtime for me, I think.
03:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 8378 - syntax not working on overdues anymore" <[…]d78884c8b53c5b533>
03:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #998 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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04:33 insightful hi I am investigating LMS options and came across Koha. Can anyone tell me if Koha is accessible to blind users who use the Jaws print reader?
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04:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #998: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/998/
04:53 jenkins_koha jcamins: Revert "Bug 8378 - <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore"
04:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
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06:56 jenkins_koha jcamins: Revert "Bug 8378 - <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore"
06:56 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
07:21 alex_a bonjour
07:33 rangi hi alex_a
07:37 alex_a hello rangi
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08:04 Joubu hi
08:07 rangi hi asaurat and Joubu
08:10 asaurat hi!
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08:31 francharb good morning #koha
08:32 rangi hi francharb
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08:33 francharb hi rangi cait
08:33 cait hi francharb, hi rangi
08:34 rangi hi cait
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08:43 hdl hi
08:43 wahanui hola, hdl
08:43 hdl bye
08:44 rangi heh
09:37 rangi Joubu: did my comment make sense?
09:37 rangi its tricky to spot because most developers have KOHA_CONF set so never notice
09:39 Joubu rangi: yes! I can reproduce, thanks
10:11 * magnuse waves
10:19 magnuse jcamins++ for his first cpan module
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10:42 magnuse Oak
10:42 Oak magnuse
10:42 magnuse :-)
10:42 * Oak waves
10:42 Oak :)
10:42 magnuse o/
10:43 Oak \o
10:43 magnuse hiya cait and gaetan_B too
10:43 * cait waves
10:43 cait hi Oak :)
10:43 Oak hello cait :)
10:43 * gaetan_B too
10:43 Oak 2012... *sigh*
10:43 cait not happy with 2012?
10:44 Oak nah it's not like that
10:44 Oak just the... passage of time. so fast.
10:44 Oak swift.
10:45 cait yeah, that's true
10:45 cait have to go :)
10:45 cait bbl
10:45 Oak later
10:56 magnuse yeah, 2012 was quick
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12:09 magnuse @wunder boo
12:09 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -3.0°C (1:00 PM CET on December 28, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1004 hPa (Rising).
12:10 magnuse s/Rain/Snow/
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12:27 jcamins_away Whoa! There are OpenSuSE packages!
12:29 magnuse um, hooray? ;-)
12:30 jcamins_away Yeah!
12:36 * magnuse should probably find a more fetching title for bug 9256
12:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , debian/templates/ is hardcoded to retrieval syntax = usmarc
12:38 jcamins magnuse: I recommend something with the word "paroxysms."
12:38 magnuse hehe
12:41 magnuse jcamins: i didn't manage to fit that in, but i hope bug 9256 sounds more scary now
12:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
12:42 jcamins Yup. Much scarier.
12:43 magnuse yay
12:48 magnuse i also wonder if bug 3087 made it impossible to have more than one marcflavour on the same server
12:48 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3087 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB
12:50 jcamins magnuse: I was pondering that.
12:50 jcamins I think it may have.
12:50 magnuse :-(
12:51 magnuse or...
12:51 magnuse we should probably not use /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/usmarc.mar for all marcflavours?
12:51 magnuse have different files for different flavours, and then point to them as appropriate?
12:53 jcamins I'm not sure we can make that change for packages as they are now.
12:54 magnuse but will that problam only affect package installs?
12:54 jcamins Wow it's early for rangi.
12:54 magnuse yeah, weird :-)
12:54 magnuse any thoughts on reverting 3087?
12:55 magnuse it does seem to cause major problems to achieve a somewhat minor fix...
12:55 jcamins I hesitate to do it because reverting it will break all non-MARC21 3.10 installs.
12:56 rangi it wont just affect package installs, but its a lot harder to have 2 koha one server without packages .. so proably will affect less
12:56 jcamins The problem will probably only affect packages because practically speaking no one can figure out how to make other installs work correctly together.
12:57 jcamins If they could it would still be a problem if any configuration files were shared.
12:57 rangi its not that hard, i used to do it before packages existed
12:58 rangi but its unlikely many people are
12:58 * magnuse too
13:00 magnuse but yeah, it's probably not very common
13:02 rangi what a mess
13:05 rangi that whole changing a file called usmarc.mar ... to be other than usmarc ... how could that possibly be a good idea
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13:07 rangi ah well it will still be broken in the morning
13:07 * rangi goes to sleep
13:07 magnuse sleep tight rangi
13:08 magnuse jcamins: guess it was late for rangi, not early ;-)
13:08 jcamins Apparently so.
13:08 jcamins Actually, it looks like we could correct it by having different files for each marcflavour.
13:09 magnuse woot!
13:12 jcamins The only place usmarc.mar is referenced is in record.abs.
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13:14 magnuse and there is one record.abs for each marcflavour, right?
13:14 magnuse kia ora NateC!
13:14 jcamins Two... one for bibs, one for authorities.
13:14 magnuse yeah
13:15 NateC Hiya Magnuse :)
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13:15 magnuse jcamins: i also had to edit /etc/koha/zebradb/retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml, i think
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13:17 jcamins We have two options for those... move them to be instance-specific, or have one per marcflavour.
13:18 jcamins Actually... I'm not entirely sure those are used.
13:18 magnuse oops, i might have done stupid things...
13:19 jcamins Oh, I see.
13:19 jcamins They are.
13:19 jcamins They're included by koha-conf.xml.
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13:33 oleonard__ Many thanks to those who helped test Bug 6261. I'm very happy to have that one fixed.
13:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Consolidate patron toolbar include files
13:41 magnuse tidying_up++
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14:03 oleonard Joubu: Your patch on Bug 8845 is to be tested for signoff along with the others?
14:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8845 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add ability search patrons by date of birth
14:06 Joubu oleonard: my patch replaces the second patch of Kyle. So if you want to test it, you have to test it with the first proposed patch
14:06 oleonard Okay, thanks
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15:13 libsysguy who is bigrig?
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15:21 gmcharlt libsysguy: BigRig__ is one of my colleagues at Equinox
15:22 libsysguy ahh
15:22 libsysguy I think he needs some smaller tires, he keeps bouncing (not that I am one to talk)
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15:51 pierre_paris Hello everybody, I am a relatively fresh newbie. Is this the right place to submit two problems I encountered with Koha?
15:51 oleonard Yes, pierre_paris
15:51 wahanui i heard pierre_paris was getting the follwing error message : DBI connect('dbname=koha;host=localh​ost;port=3306','kohaadmin',...) failed: Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 758 Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/sha
15:51 oleonard Heh. wahanui (a bot) remembers you!
15:53 pierre_paris Thanks! This problem is now solved for me. I have two new ones :>) First big one : I have test loaded some 140,000 records and I would like to delete them all. How should I proceed?
15:55 oleonard Drop the database and start over? It depends on how much configuration you want to save.
15:57 oleonard Do I remember correctly that druthb had a good script for "cleaning" a test installation?
15:57 druthb yes.
15:58 pierre_paris Is this sufficient? I mean are the zebra indexes stored elsewhere than in the mysql DB? Is there a script option to do this? (I told you I was a newbie... :>)
15:58 druthb[…]lean_database.sql
15:58 oleonard nengard: Don't forget to include a description and test plan with your patches!
15:59 nengard it was a string patch ?
15:59 druthb The zebra indexes are separate, yes, but you can kind of ignore that.  When you re-import your data, just reindex, and that will overwrite the old ones.
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16:00 oleonard wahanui: forget pierre_paris
16:00 wahanui oleonard: I forgot pierre_paris
16:04 pierre_paris OK, thanks, I will try the script. Second question : All the search aspects are OK (web interface, SRU...) but I always get the folwing error with the yaz client : "Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection refused"
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16:05 pierre_paris I use the command : open tcp:localhost:9999/biblios
16:06 * chris_n slowly climbs out of the pit of the bad magic number
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16:11 magnuse huh, kf?
16:11 wahanui kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
16:11 jcamins Shouldn't kf be on vacation?
16:11 druthb I thought so too.
16:13 * magnuse suspects foul play
16:13 kf oh right :)
16:13 kf wrong nick - occupying my dad's computer and using mibbit
16:13 druthb :)
16:13 jcamins Bug 8190
16:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use)
16:15 magnuse phew
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16:23 * magnuse calls it a year
16:23 magnuse see you next year, folks :-)
16:24 oleonard it was a good one magnuse. Here's to the next!
16:34 Joubu bye all
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16:56 jcamins Time for server upgrades. Bye, all.
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17:21 uhusiano is it a problem with koha 3.10 installed with packages or what is it cos I cant seem to make changes on CSS nor add images as I did on tarball installed
17:22 jcamins uhusiano: you'll have to give a lot more details about what it is you're trying to do.
17:23 uhusiano I am trying to edit opac.css esp adding a banner with a custom banner
17:23 jcamins Ah.
17:23 jcamins Don't do that.
17:23 libsysguy rule 1) don't edit the code that comes with Koha, use the system prefs
17:23 jcamins Use the OpacUserCSS syspref.
17:24 libsysguy rule 2) don't talk about fight club
17:24 libsysguy shoot I always forgot to not talk about rule 2
17:25 jcamins lol
17:25 uhusiano I have tried that on syspref I used <img src="../images/banner.png"> to get my banner on on opacheader invain
17:26 libsysguy if you are trying to add img tags you shouldn't be using css
17:28 uhusiano nope that was my 2nd problem
17:28 uhusiano my first was adding custom css (fonts + colors), 2nd problem was images
17:30 jcamins You should probably store the banner.png image somewhere other than in /usr/share/koha
17:31 libsysguy agreed
17:31 uhusiano i have stored it in /opac-tmpl/prog/en/images
17:32 jcamins Yeah, that's not a good place. You should treat the file tree under /usr/share/koha as read-only.
17:33 libsysguy yeah you should really put the images somewhere completely separate from Koha and have apache serve them
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17:33 libsysguy you could try /var/www/
17:34 * libsysguy usually cheats and hotlinks the banner from somewhere else
17:35 uhusiano let me try
17:35 clrh good end of year #koha
17:43 rambutan interesting. clrh is a hash of rhcl
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17:54 rangi Morning
17:54 wahanui Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
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18:43 clrh rambutan: I don't know rhcl :)
18:43 clrh what does mean*
18:43 clrh chemistry ?
18:44 jcamins clrh: RHCL = Rolling Hills Consolidated Library (rambutan's library)
18:55 rambutan sorry, was off for a bit. Yes, because Rolling Hills Consolidated Library is so long, we frequently just use the initials "RHCL", which is a transposition of the first/last half of your nic, "clrh"
18:56 rambutan and to add to the fun, we are working on a sometimes nascent children's workstation called RaCHeL, which contains the initials RHCL.
19:05 clrh aaah
19:05 clrh :)
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20:08 rambutan
20:08 cait hi all :)
20:25 rambutan hi cait
20:25 cait hi rambutan
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20:31 libsysguy where are the package deps?
20:31 * libsysguy hoped wahanui had an answer
20:31 jcamins debian/control
20:31 jcamins Unfortunately, only eythian can update it.
20:32 rangi no anyone can
20:32 rangi you just use the script
20:32 jcamins Except me.
20:32 rangi dont do it by hand
20:32 rangi ./debian/update-control
20:32 libsysguy ah okay
20:32 jcamins I used that, and the result was a package that eythian couldn't use.
20:32 libsysguy well poo
20:33 jcamins However, when he updates the control file, I'm able to use the resulting packages.
20:33 libsysguy I don't want to piss off eythan
20:33 jcamins Maybe because his host is Debian and mine is Ubuntu?
20:33 rangi could be, i do it in a squeeze machine
20:34 libsysguy do I pass it what I want to add?
20:34 rangi you dont
20:34 jcamins No, it just loads the list from C4::Installer::PerlDependencies.
20:34 libsysguy i get errors if I just run it
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21:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.3°C (10:35 PM CET on December 28, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
21:41 rambutan @wunder 64507
21:41 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -2.0°C (3:39 PM CST on December 28, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
21:44 jcamins @wunder 11735
21:45 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Nassau/Suffolk County Line, East Farmingdale, New York is 1.8°C (4:41 PM EST on December 28, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 8 am Saturday to 6 am EST Sunday...
21:45 jcamins Yay! It's above freezing!
21:47 druthb @wunder 66046
21:47 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -1.6°C (3:45 PM CST on December 28, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
21:47 * druthb shivers.
21:52 * cait is cold too
22:04 gmcharlt @wunder 98155
22:04 huginn gmcharlt: The current temperature in Shoreline, Seattle, Washington is 6.5°C (2:02 PM PST on December 28, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
22:05 gmcharlt the wind chill is higher than the actual temperature?
22:05 cait interesting
22:05 wahanui i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
22:05 cait hi gmcharlt
22:05 gmcharlt hi cait
22:38 jcamins bug 1993
22:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1993 enhancement, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Signed Off , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
23:04 rangi [2012/12/29 12:02:17] ERROR - main::test_calledby - test calledby - main::test_calledby('test calledby') called
23:04 rangi at t/Logger.t line 33
23:05 cait that looks... confusing
23:06 rangi not really
23:06 rangi its the time
23:06 rangi the log level
23:07 rangi the calling function, the log message, then the stacktrace
23:07 rangi [2012/12/29 12:02:17] ERROR - main:: - an error string  called at t/Logger.t line 31
23:07 rangi [2012/12/29 12:02:17] NORMAL - main:: - a normal string
23:07 jcamins What's confusing about it is that the log message happens to match both the calling function and stacktrace.
23:07 rangi etc
23:08 rangi yep
23:08 rangi passing 10 out of the 15 tests
23:09 pastebot "rangi" at pasted "KOHA_LOG="/tmp/test.log" perl" (32 lines) at
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23:10 jcamins A bunch of those errors look to be because the level wasn't changed to a string everywhere.
23:10 rangi yep
23:11 rangi its the the dump one that isnt
23:11 rangi 2 secs new patch that should pass everything except dump
23:12 jcamins I have a suggestion: wouldn't it be better to have a $log->dump($LEVEL, $variable) method?
23:12 rangi makes sense to me
23:12 jcamins Otherwise it looks like $log->warn($variable, 1), and I'd expect that to warn "$variable\t1"
23:13 rangi $log is just a Log::Log4Perl object so we would have to make it an isa or the like to do that
23:13 jcamins (because as far as I'm concerned warn should act like print)
23:13 jcamins Oh, right.
23:15 jcamins rangi:[…]ore_logging_them? (in case you haven't seen that yet)
23:15 rangi ooh
23:15 rangi sweet thanks
23:16 rangi its a pretty nice module
23:25 jcamins I don't think that it would be unreasonable to do use base and AUTOLOAD.
23:27 jcamins I think it's about time to go home.
23:27 jcamins I haven't decided what I want to make book boxes out, but I don't think I'm going to be able to do that today.
23:27 rangi yeah im pretty much done for now, hopefully it mark spark someone elses imagination
23:28 jcamins Fair enough. I might try the AUTOLOAD thing, just 'cause it's cool.
23:28 * cait gives you both cookies
23:28 cait I wouldparticipate in the discussion... but it's totally over my head :)
23:28 jcamins Nonsense.
23:28 jcamins So long, #koha.
23:28 cait bye jcamins_away
23:29 rangi i think we need appender.Stderr =  Log::Log4perl::Appender::Screen
23:29 rangi as well
23:29 rangi for that but thats easy
23:29 rangi and yep im done too
23:30 cait bye rangi
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