| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:04 |
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jcamins_away |
How did you alphabetize ß? |
| 00:05 |
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drojf |
after s |
| 00:05 |
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jcamins_away |
It's kind of a problem since ß should come before st in my alphabetical world. |
| 00:07 |
|
drojf |
:D |
| 00:08 |
|
drojf |
wouldn't it come before st when it comes after s? |
| 00:09 |
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jcamins |
drojf: only if the words were spelled "strasße" and "straste." |
| 00:09 |
|
drojf |
ah now i understand what you mean |
| 00:10 |
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jcamins |
Otherwise, "straste" would come before "straße." |
| 00:10 |
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drojf |
ys |
| 00:10 |
|
drojf |
yes |
| 00:11 |
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jcamins |
The German language needs more words with the spelling "-sß-" |
| 00:11 |
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drojf |
the correct way would be to magically dissolve it to 'ss' for sorting |
| 00:12 |
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jcamins |
And searching. |
| 00:12 |
|
wahanui |
searching is not working |
| 00:13 |
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drojf |
there is a line 'equivalent ß(ss)' now but i have to admit that i am not sure what zebra does with it |
| 00:13 |
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drojf |
maybe it should be (ss)ß |
| 00:13 |
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jcamins |
No, I think the line is right. |
| 00:15 |
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jcamins |
The problem is that I don't think that applies to sorting, just searching. |
| 00:16 |
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drojf |
This directive introduces the upper-case equivalences to the value set (if any). The number and order of the entries in the list should be the same as in the lowercase directive. |
| 00:16 |
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drojf |
ok i killed that because ß does not really exist in uppercase |
| 00:16 |
|
drojf |
will add it anyway |
| 00:17 |
|
drojf |
equivalent value-set This directive introduces equivalence classes of characters and/or strings for sorting purposes only. It resembles the map directive, but does not affect search and retrieval indexing, but only sorting order under present requests. |
| 00:17 |
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drojf |
seems to be for sorting |
| 00:19 |
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jcamins |
Oh, guess I had it backwards. |
| 00:19 |
|
jcamins |
Excellent! |
| 00:27 |
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jcamins |
I had no idea there was an uppercase ß! |
| 00:29 |
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drojf |
there isn't really. i think it came up quite recently. it doesn't exist apart from all-caps. you cannot have a word start with ẞ |
| 00:29 |
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eythian |
jcamins: it's what Germans use when yelling to each other. By which I mean, talking normally, like cait's outside neighbour at BSZ. |
| 00:29 |
|
jcamins |
lol |
| 00:29 |
|
drojf |
lol |
| 00:30 |
|
drojf |
"The hat ^ character denotes beginning-of-field" |
| 00:30 |
|
drojf |
hat character? |
| 00:30 |
|
drojf |
is that a common expression? |
| 00:30 |
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eythian |
it's not uncommon |
| 00:30 |
|
* drojf |
giggles |
| 00:30 |
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* jcamins |
has never heard it before. |
| 00:31 |
|
eythian |
you will also see "carrot" sometimes. |
| 00:31 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 00:31 |
|
cait |
caret |
| 00:31 |
|
cait |
according to my perl books |
| 00:31 |
|
jcamins |
Caret. |
| 00:31 |
|
jcamins |
That's what I've always heard. |
| 00:32 |
|
eythian |
yeah, that's the properist name. |
| 00:32 |
|
drojf |
i like carrot |
| 00:32 |
|
cait |
of course you do :) |
| 00:33 |
|
cait |
who doesn't like carrots?:) |
| 00:33 |
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drojf |
lotẞ of carrotẞ |
| 00:33 |
|
eythian |
^^ |
| 00:33 |
|
eythian |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 00:33 |
|
drojf |
:D |
| 00:33 |
|
cait |
lol |
| 00:38 |
|
jcamins |
Okay... how do I tie a bowtie? |
| 00:38 |
|
jcamins |
Clearly not the way the package says. |
| 00:38 |
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* jcamins |
consults Google. |
| 00:38 |
|
eythian |
you put the elastic band around your neck, and it just stays there. |
| 00:39 |
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drojf |
i bet there are video tutorials on youtube |
| 00:39 |
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cait |
jcamins: how did you get from reading to bowties? |
| 00:39 |
|
drojf |
maybe even a google group :P |
| 00:39 |
|
cait |
ok, things are getting weird here... I am leaving :) |
| 00:39 |
|
cait |
night all |
| 00:40 |
|
jcamins |
lol |
| 00:40 |
|
jcamins |
Good night. |
| 00:40 |
|
eythian |
I spent 3 years at high school tying a regular tie every day. Last time I had to do it, a couple of years ago, I had to look it up. |
| 00:40 |
|
drojf |
good night cait |
| 00:40 |
|
eythian |
later cait |
| 00:40 |
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| 00:40 |
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jcamins |
Right... maybe I'll tie the bowtie around something else to start with. |
| 00:41 |
|
drojf |
How To Tie a Bow Tie • 1.727.313 views |
| 00:41 |
|
drojf |
you are not alone :D |
| 00:41 |
|
eythian |
seems like a common issue |
| 00:42 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: birds |
| 00:42 |
|
wahanui |
eythian: huh? |
| 00:42 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: birds are gross: http://www.birdandmoon.com/birdsaregross.html |
| 00:42 |
|
wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 00:42 |
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jcamins |
drojf: indeed I am not. |
| 00:46 |
|
drojf |
jcamins: you could tie it around myshkin for a test |
| 00:46 |
|
jcamins |
lol |
| 00:49 |
|
druthb |
myshkin_in_a_tie++ |
| 00:51 |
|
jcamins |
Grr. |
| 00:59 |
|
rangi |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f[…]ded&v=PN-MjUC4f9k |
| 00:59 |
|
* jcamins |
proceeds to garotte a spindle full of CD-Rs. |
| 01:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol. lol. adorable. |
| 01:01 |
|
jcamins |
:) |
| 01:01 |
|
eythian |
I guess you've got to use them for something |
| 01:04 |
|
jcamins |
Well, it may have asphixiated, but at least I managed to tie the bowtie. |
| 01:04 |
|
jcamins |
Once. |
| 01:07 |
|
jcamins |
Success! |
| 01:08 |
|
* jcamins |
refuses to take off his bowtie. |
| 01:37 |
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| 01:41 |
|
libsysguy |
hey the next IRC meeting is on my birthday |
| 01:41 |
|
eythian |
* jcamins is now known as jcamins_bowtie |
| 01:41 |
|
libsysguy |
^^ 0_0 |
| 02:34 |
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| 02:52 |
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eythian |
excuse |
| 02:52 |
|
wahanui |
eythian: static buildup |
| 03:39 |
|
libsysguy |
wahanui will make up excuses for you!! |
| 03:39 |
|
wahanui |
libsysguy: i'm not following you... |
| 03:39 |
|
libsysguy |
excuse |
| 03:39 |
|
wahanui |
libsysguy: Groundskeepers stole the root password |
| 03:43 |
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| 03:50 |
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wizzyrea |
excuse |
| 03:50 |
|
wahanui |
wizzyrea: My pony-tail hit the on/off switch on the power strip. |
| 03:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh that happens to me ALL THE TIME |
| 03:55 |
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eythian |
you should chop off your pony tail in that case |
| 05:08 |
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| 05:10 |
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libsysguy |
so I have to say, using DBIx::Class is making life for db ops easy peasy |
| 05:36 |
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| 06:15 |
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BobB_ |
bonjour paul_p |
| 06:21 |
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| 07:08 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 07:08 |
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* cait |
waves back |
| 07:10 |
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| 07:13 |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait and eythian and paul_p |
| 07:13 |
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magnuse |
woohoo for the changes that were made to the wiki! |
| 07:13 |
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cait |
it's a lot better, isn't it? |
| 07:14 |
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magnuse |
cait: it is! |
| 07:16 |
|
paul_p |
hi magnus & cait & BobB_ & others. leaving IRC to take Athens subway now. See you later |
| 07:16 |
|
paul_p |
cait this afternoon, I plan to do some QA. |
| 07:17 |
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cait |
paul_p: good |
| 07:17 |
|
cait |
have fun in Athens |
| 07:19 |
|
magnuse |
eythian or eythian_ around? |
| 07:20 |
|
eythian_ |
yep |
| 07:21 |
|
magnuse |
yay |
| 07:21 |
|
magnuse |
i have a problem with the packages |
| 07:21 |
|
magnuse |
set up a new server to test 3.10 with real data |
| 07:21 |
|
magnuse |
upload the sql backup from the live server and load it, upgrade schema and rebuild zebra -f |
| 07:22 |
|
magnuse |
but when i try to search i get this: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 461. |
| 07:22 |
|
magnuse |
e.g.: http://esme.testing.bibkat.no/[…]earch.pl?q=lessig |
| 07:22 |
|
magnuse |
ever seen something like that? |
| 07:23 |
|
magnuse |
the rebuild zebra runs without any trouble |
| 07:23 |
|
eythian_ |
I can't say I have seen that. |
| 07:23 |
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magnuse |
gah :-) |
| 07:23 |
|
eythian_ |
I haven't done a whole lot with the 3.10 packages though |
| 07:24 |
|
magnuse |
it's also weird that the title of the search results page says "you did not specify any search criteria" |
| 07:24 |
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eythian_ |
hmm yes |
| 07:24 |
|
eythian_ |
that's suspicious |
| 07:25 |
|
cait |
hm |
| 07:26 |
|
cait |
me neither :( |
| 07:26 |
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cait |
seen it ... autoscroll broken once again |
| 07:26 |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'it', cait |
| 07:27 |
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eythian_ |
wahanui agrees. |
| 07:27 |
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wahanui |
eythian_: i'm not following you... |
| 07:27 |
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magnuse |
i did koha-create before i loaded the sql dump |
| 07:28 |
|
eythian_ |
that's fine, that's what I usually do. |
| 07:28 |
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magnuse |
earlier, i tried to do koha-create and then add some records, and that seemed to work fine |
| 07:29 |
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eythian_ |
the only thing I can think of off the top of my head is the upgrade process not working correctly, but if that were the case it'd affect everyone. |
| 07:32 |
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| 07:32 |
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magnuse |
the output from upgrade schema: http://paste.koha-community.org/304 |
| 07:32 |
|
magnuse |
there is something weird there: |
| 07:32 |
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magnuse |
DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'koha_esme.#sql-792_2260' (errno: 121) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 5443. |
| 07:34 |
|
pastebot |
"magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "lines around 5443" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/305 |
| 07:35 |
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magnuse |
that's related to the borrower_files table, shouldn't think that would affect searching... |
| 07:36 |
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* rangi |
tries to clear up sanders confusion, hopefully not creating more |
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| 07:44 |
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magnuse |
yup this works fine: koha-create + manually doing the web-installer + staging/importing a batch of files + rebuild zebra |
| 07:44 |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
| 07:44 |
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magnuse |
kia ora marcelr |
| 07:44 |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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magnuse |
bonjour france |
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julian_m |
hello magnuse, hello all |
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marcelr |
hello julian_m alex_a |
| 07:48 |
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alex_a |
hello marcelr |
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asaurat |
hi |
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reiveune |
hello |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 07:57 |
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rangi |
as i suspected |
| 07:58 |
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rangi |
sander doesn't understand holds |
| 08:00 |
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magnuse |
yup |
| 08:01 |
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* rangi |
tries again |
| 08:02 |
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rangi |
i think he/she thinks a hold is a check out |
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magnuse |
rangi: sounds like it |
| 08:22 |
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* kf |
waves |
| 08:31 |
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magnuse |
hiya kf |
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| 09:39 |
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rangi |
*sigh* |
| 09:39 |
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* rangi |
gives up |
| 09:45 |
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kf |
oh no |
| 09:45 |
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* kf |
sends rangi cookies |
| 09:48 |
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| 09:51 |
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drojf |
i was wondering if language barrier or troll, but i vote troll now :P |
| 09:51 |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
| 09:53 |
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kf |
hi drojf |
| 09:55 |
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drojf |
hi kf |
| 09:56 |
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drojf |
with tech people doing free tech support for koha, maybe librarians could have a community initiative to teach basic ILS things ;) some people seem confused that we do not walk them through the complete system but i am not starting to do that in my spare time |
| 09:57 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
| 09:57 |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 1.8°C (10:43 AM CET on December 10, 2012). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:57 |
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kf |
yeah |
| 09:57 |
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rangi |
drojf: that is a good idea |
| 09:58 |
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kf |
can I go for tech support please? |
| 09:58 |
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rangi |
it would be nice to see librarians answering the library policy/usage type questions |
| 09:58 |
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| 09:59 |
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rangi |
some do of course, but they vastly outnumber us on the mailing list .. but not in answering mails :) |
| 09:59 |
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drojf |
that's right. maybe we are too fast |
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rangi |
could be |
| 10:00 |
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rangi |
maybe scared of being wrong too? |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
| 10:01 |
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drojf |
if you have a long thread with koha dinosaurs like yourself answering they might be, yes |
| 10:01 |
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drojf |
;) |
| 10:02 |
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drojf |
there must be so many librarians on that list. maybe they are less shy if we don't answer these questions. or answer with "any librarian here to explain" or something |
| 10:02 |
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drojf |
hi vfernandes |
| 10:03 |
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rangi |
good idea lemme try |
| 10:04 |
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rangi |
lets see if that works |
| 10:05 |
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drojf |
:) |
| 10:10 |
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drojf |
we should introduce the position of 'noob wranglers' for these questions :D |
| 10:17 |
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| 10:17 |
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gerundio |
hi, good morning |
| 10:18 |
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gerundio |
I've filled the value for the "BorrowerUnwantedField" field in the System preferences |
| 10:18 |
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gerundio |
and the collumns values I've inserted there don't show up in the intranet patron entry screen |
| 10:19 |
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gerundio |
but keep showing up in the OPAC personal details screen |
| 10:19 |
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gerundio |
how can I hide them there too? |
| 10:19 |
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kf |
gerundio: only using jquery |
| 10:19 |
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kf |
gerundio: the syspref doesn't extent to the opac yet |
| 10:19 |
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kf |
extend |
| 10:19 |
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gerundio |
ok kf, thanks a lot for the quick reply :) |
| 10:22 |
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magnuse |
kf++ |
| 10:22 |
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gerundio |
btw, any reason for that to limit the fields shown in the intranet but not on OPAC? |
| 10:23 |
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kf |
I think we might want to have 2 different prefs long term |
| 10:23 |
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kf |
because you might want some informatoin to show up internally only (even if that is probably not a good idea) |
| 10:30 |
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gerundio |
I read internally only as in intranet only, correct? |
| 10:30 |
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gerundio |
what we have now is the exact opposite |
| 10:30 |
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gerundio |
internaly only make much more sense to me |
| 10:30 |
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kf |
sorry, gerundio, not sure I understand |
| 10:31 |
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gerundio |
you said "because you might want some informatoin to show up internally only" |
| 10:32 |
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kf |
ah yes, show more in intranet than opac |
| 10:32 |
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gerundio |
exactly |
| 10:32 |
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kf |
but it might be wrong, because patrons should be able to see what you store about them |
| 10:32 |
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kf |
but the view on this might differ |
| 10:32 |
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gerundio |
and what we have now in the exact opposite, right? |
| 10:32 |
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kf |
I think it's started more as a way to shorten the entry form |
| 10:32 |
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kf |
and it was done for that, but should probably be extended |
| 10:33 |
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kf |
you coudl file a feature request |
| 10:34 |
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gerundio |
btw, you said the only way to accomplish that is by using JS |
| 10:34 |
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gerundio |
a colleague of mine did it on a devel setup by changing the template files |
| 10:34 |
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gerundio |
is that a good way to go? |
| 10:37 |
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kf |
no |
| 10:37 |
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kf |
it will explode each and every time you update |
| 10:37 |
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kf |
Ithink if it#s just the user shouldn't see what you don't store about them anyway, js hsould be fine |
| 10:37 |
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kf |
they will see empty fields if js is deactivated |
| 10:38 |
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kf |
if you really wanted to hide something effectively changing the frameworks might be the only way to do it - but it's not recommendable because of the update pain |
| 10:38 |
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gerundio |
kf, thanks for saying what I wanted to ear :D |
| 10:39 |
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kf |
and changing frameworks is changing templats... it's monday :) |
| 10:39 |
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gerundio |
my colleague wanted to insert an id from another platform into the streetnumber field on koha |
| 10:39 |
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gerundio |
so we could do his integration |
| 10:39 |
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kf |
hm |
| 10:39 |
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gerundio |
I always said it was a bad idea |
| 10:39 |
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kf |
that's nto a good way to do it |
| 10:39 |
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kf |
do you need it for patron import? |
| 10:39 |
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gerundio |
he should use the LDAP username |
| 10:40 |
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kf |
gerundio: have you looked into extended patron attributes? |
| 10:40 |
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kf |
I think there is a patch around to make them work with ldap, so that might be a problem right now, but is the better way to do it I think |
| 10:40 |
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kf |
you can define a patron attribute to be unique |
| 10:40 |
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kf |
and visible or not in opac |
| 10:40 |
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kf |
and you can match on unique patron attributes during patron import |
| 10:52 |
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gerundio |
kf, sorry for the hold up |
| 10:52 |
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gerundio |
my colleague was here and I was telling him what you told me |
| 10:53 |
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gerundio |
I'm already using extended patron attributes |
| 10:53 |
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gerundio |
but there's a bug already reported about LDAP mapping |
| 10:54 |
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gerundio |
don't know if the patch works, I have a task to test it in my TODO list :) |
| 10:55 |
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gerundio |
that would be a better solution no doubt about it |
| 10:55 |
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gerundio |
if I didn't think he'd be fine just with the LDAP username :) |
| 10:55 |
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kf |
:) |
| 10:55 |
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kf |
you will work it out :) |
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vfernandes |
slips on 3.8.X and 3.10.X are configurable right? |
| 11:40 |
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kf |
yes |
| 11:41 |
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vfernandes |
quickslips only show the patron today checkouts? |
| 11:41 |
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kf |
i am not sure, maybe test it, but I think yes |
| 11:42 |
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vfernandes |
what you think about having renewal and checkin quick slips? |
| 11:42 |
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kf |
I think I woudl like checkin slips |
| 11:42 |
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kf |
because there is no way currently to do that and it's something common here |
| 11:42 |
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kf |
for renewal I could always print a complete account slip, but it might still be useful there too |
| 11:44 |
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vfernandes |
In one of my installations I've done a modification in order to haver quickslips for renewal and returns |
| 11:44 |
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vfernandes |
the problem with returns is the fines |
| 11:44 |
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vfernandes |
I never managed to do that in the right way |
| 11:45 |
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kf |
why the fines? |
| 11:45 |
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kf |
and there are slips (hardcoded but stil) I think for payments |
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vfernandes |
because normally the return slips envolves the payment of the fine if the book is overdue |
| 11:46 |
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vfernandes |
is a 2 in one slip: return and payment slip |
| 11:47 |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
not necessarily |
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kf |
lots of people don't pay the fines when giving back and you always have to change into the patron account |
| 11:47 |
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vfernandes |
yes not necessarily |
| 11:47 |
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kf |
I think I woudl not mind having 2 separate slips |
| 11:47 |
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kf |
we could also have a "today's actions" slip |
| 11:48 |
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kf |
issues, returns and fines - from patron account |
| 11:49 |
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vfernandes |
issues, renewal, returns (with or without fines on the configuration) and fines |
| 11:51 |
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kf |
not sure how to do that in a user friendly way |
| 11:53 |
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vfernandes |
now there is 3 options in print button: Print summary, Print slip, Print quick slip |
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vfernandes |
sorry kf... the system power went down |
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kf |
np |
| 12:01 |
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vfernandes |
I was saying that in the print option there is 3 option: print summary, print slip, print quick slip |
| 12:03 |
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vfernandes |
the idea was to set 5 options: summary, slip, checkout quick slip, return quick slip and renewal quick slip (I think we can take "Print .." from the link) |
| 12:04 |
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kf |
I always like the idea of more optiosn, but it can get overwhelmling eaisly |
| 12:05 |
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kf |
drojf++ |
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vfernandes |
do you think that I should add this options? and about changing the "strings" removing "print" from the links? |
| 12:06 |
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kf |
I think removing print should be ok, if the button stays labelled... but not sure about accessibility hm |
| 12:07 |
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kf |
maybe ask some more people? |
| 12:07 |
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drojf |
kf: huh? |
| 12:09 |
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vfernandes |
"Print" can be maintain there is not a real problem... but I think the omission can be done because the button is already as "Print" |
| 12:09 |
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kf |
drojf: bug wrangling :) |
| 12:09 |
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kf |
vfernandes: I wondered if it would be confusing for people not seeing the button :) |
| 12:12 |
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vfernandes |
"Print summary, Print slip, Checkout quick slip, Checkin quick slip, Renewal quick slip" |
| 12:12 |
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vfernandes |
Print checkout quick slip... maybe is too long :/ |
| 12:13 |
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kf |
yeah |
| 12:14 |
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vfernandes |
"Checkout quick slip" is a good option? |
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vfernandes |
I think so... I will create a bug for the implementation of renewal and checkin quick slips |
| 12:17 |
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vfernandes |
which should be the correct component of the bug? Circulation or patron? |
| 12:17 |
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drojf |
so what do i do if there is no complexity field that i have to set? |
| 12:17 |
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drojf |
(in bugzilla) |
| 12:18 |
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kf |
hm it shoudl show up when you switch to needs sign-off |
| 12:18 |
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kf |
vfernandes: maybe notices if there is one |
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kf |
or circ |
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drojf |
no it doesn't because i cannot switch because i canno set complexity |
| 12:18 |
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kf |
new bug? |
| 12:19 |
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drojf |
yes |
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drojf |
bug 9248 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9248 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a German Zebra language definition file |
| 12:21 |
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kf |
and what are you trying to do? |
| 12:21 |
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kf |
when i switch to need ssignoff, the patch complexity shows up for me |
| 12:22 |
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drojf |
where? |
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kf |
right column on top |
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vfernandes |
near sponsored |
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kf |
last one |
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wahanui |
last one is the first one if you look backwards. |
| 12:22 |
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drojf |
that is where i expected it but it doesn't |
| 12:22 |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
javasript problem? |
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drojf |
i could change to assigned. but i cannot change to needs sign off |
| 12:23 |
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kf |
you are logged int oo right? |
| 12:23 |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
maybe close browser and try again? |
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drojf |
it worked now after restart and ctrl+f5 |
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druthb |
@wunder 66046 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -7.4°C (6:34 AM CST on December 10, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:35 |
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druthb |
now, who thought *that* up? |
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* druthb |
blames kf. |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (1:20 PM CET on December 10, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
@wunder Cordoba, Argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 28.0°C (9:00 AM ART on December 10, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:45 |
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magnuse |
somwhere in between, perhaps? |
| 12:46 |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
| 12:49 |
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marcelr |
afternoon tcohen |
| 12:49 |
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magnuse |
hiya tcohen |
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druthb |
Wait. It's colder in Lawrence, Kansas than it is in the *ARCTIC*? kf, you're off the hook. I'm blaming magnuse for this one. |
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magnuse |
oh noes! |
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* druthb |
shivers, and gives magnuse the ebil eye. |
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* magnuse |
sends druthb a stack of firewood |
| 12:51 |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 12:51 |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.4°C (1:50 PM CET on December 10, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:51 |
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kf |
magnuse: youare really encouraging her to make a fire? |
| 12:53 |
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* druthb |
makes a little pyramid of logs, with a loose pile of little bits in the middle, and a wadded-up ball of newspaper. One match, no accelerant. She'd have made a heckuva Girl Scout. |
| 12:53 |
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magnuse |
sounds good to me |
| 12:54 |
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kf |
druthb: as long as you are not doing this on your hardwood floors inside the house ... |
| 12:55 |
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druthb |
Now, that would be silly, kf. |
| 12:55 |
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kf |
hm right |
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drojf |
anyone ever looked at http://weblate.org/en/ for translation? |
| 13:01 |
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druthb |
drojf: I just played with the demo a minute, and I kind of like it! :) |
| 13:02 |
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kf |
i guess the big question for every tool is if it can handle our big files |
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druthb |
I can find that out. My other curiosity will be how well it handles RTL languages. Pootle *does*, but it's kind of ugly-looking and can be confusing to translators. |
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* kf |
nods |
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kf |
druthb: has the pootle server moved to his new home yet or is that in the works? |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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druthb |
drojf, kf, magnuse: Once I get our pootle woes cleared up, I could spin up a test of this for a few folks to try out. |
| 13:04 |
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druthb |
kf: still working on that. |
| 13:04 |
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druthb |
Hey, Brooke! |
| 13:04 |
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drojf |
druthb: that would be cool |
| 13:04 |
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drojf |
hi Brooke |
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Brooke |
howdy |
| 13:05 |
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kf |
druthb: did you see the request for new greek files on the mailing list? |
| 13:05 |
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druthb |
Since I'm not a translator, I'm unqualified to have an opinion on the "best tool." But I wanna put this in *your* hands, and you tell me what you wanna use, and I'll see to it. |
| 13:05 |
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kf |
ah, you probably did |
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druthb |
I did, kf. |
| 13:05 |
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kf |
just let me knwo if I can help with something |
| 13:06 |
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drojf |
i have seen options for context of singular and plural forms. what i would like is context like depending on module and things :) |
| 13:06 |
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magnuse |
ki ora Brooke |
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magnuse |
s/ki/kia/ |
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Brooke |
kia orrraaa |
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kf |
i am all for improving things |
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kf |
as long as it does not require any retranslating |
| 13:10 |
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drojf |
come on kf, a few thousand strings :P |
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Brooke |
all the cool kids are doin' it |
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druthb |
I like the easy-to-spot links to the source file on Weblate. That's pretty slick. |
| 13:12 |
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drojf |
Translation context part allows you to see related information about current string. Nearby messages, Similar messages, All locations, Dictionary, Recent edits, Project |
| 13:12 |
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Brooke |
sechsy |
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kf |
drojf: maybe it would be possible to do that with pootle too |
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Brooke |
I <3 context |
| 13:12 |
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kf |
and we are just not doing it |
| 13:13 |
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drojf |
kf: maybe. i would have expected the previous translation managers to have known and talked about. but maybe that was never asked about |
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* Brooke |
still has nightmares about encroaching %s |
| 13:13 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 13:13 |
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magnuse |
yeah those %s's are pesky |
| 13:14 |
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kf |
I like having them better than not having them |
| 13:14 |
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kf |
it gave us a lot more context instead of single words |
| 13:16 |
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druthb |
ssssh...kf, you gotta quit talking about jcamins; he's here now. |
| 13:17 |
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drojf |
i was promised a "back in office" email party but all i got was this louse "out of office" email again |
| 13:17 |
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jcamins |
drojf: it's 8:16am EST, and I think he's somewhere on the west coast. |
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drojf |
ah. right. weird people not living in my timezone, forgot about that |
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Brooke |
pfft the West Coast is communist. In especial in eNZed. |
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H |
annyone knows this problem ...Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package koha-common |
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jcamins |
H: sounds like you don't have your apt repositories configured. |
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jcamins |
packages? |
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wahanui |
packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 13:20 |
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jcamins |
^^ that page tells you what to put in /etc/apt/sources.list. |
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H |
i use the ubuntu version |
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drojf |
you use the debian packages with ubuntu |
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H |
i follow the wikki yes |
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H |
did do the key |
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drojf |
did you du apt-get update after adding the line to /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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drojf |
s/du/do |
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H |
ah i updated before oeps |
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jcamins |
H: did you run `apt-get update`? |
| 13:22 |
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jcamins |
Could you paste the line you added to sources.list to paste.koha-community.org? |
| 13:23 |
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kf |
druthb tmscnack cookie |
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druthb |
nom nom nom |
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magnuse |
hm, does that mean druthb is in fact a bot? |
| 13:23 |
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druthb |
kf QAMsnack oatmeal bar |
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kf |
oh yum! |
| 13:23 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: that is one weird error. |
| 13:24 |
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magnuse |
jcamins: yup. i can't get my head around it |
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jcamins |
Bet you're wishing I'd gotten further in the search rewrite, huh? ;) |
| 13:25 |
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magnuse |
hehe, yeah |
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Brooke |
magnuse druthb isn't a bot, I am. DUN DUN DUNNNNNN |
| 13:25 |
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magnuse |
gaaah, the bots are coming! |
| 13:26 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: did you restart Zebra? |
| 13:26 |
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druthb |
EX-TER-MIN-ATE. |
| 13:26 |
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kf |
btw good morning jcamins :) |
| 13:26 |
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Brooke |
and those silly humans think that it's going to be a zombie apocalypse Waha... |
| 13:27 |
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Brooke |
proving once again that *everything* is related to the search rewrite. |
| 13:27 |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
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wahanui |
morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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* Brooke |
hands jcamins a spanner |
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magnuse |
hm, no |
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drojf |
what did i miss? zebra apocalypse? |
| 13:28 |
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Brooke |
enywho, seriously, leaving this time |
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magnuse |
jcamins: no change after stop/start/reindex |
| 13:31 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Do you have this loaded onto a development server where you can follow my destructive instructions? |
| 13:32 |
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magnuse |
yup |
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jcamins |
Good. |
| 13:32 |
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jcamins |
Go to line 461 of C4::Search. |
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H |
http://mibpaste.com/8ZiohX |
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jcamins |
Add an "if $results[ $i - 1 ]->record($j);" at the end. |
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jcamins |
H: you do not need libchi-perl. It's optional. |
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H |
ok |
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H |
thx for the info |
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magnuse |
jcamins: done |
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tcohen |
hi jcamins |
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magnuse |
jcamins: that gives me Can't call method "render" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 476. |
| 13:35 |
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kf |
drojf: did you ask wizzy to put the new lmailing list on the website yet? |
| 13:35 |
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tcohen |
thanks, for that push btw jcamins |
| 13:35 |
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kf |
drojf: also, maybe we shoudl send an email to the normal Koha list as well - some people might have missed that there is a list at all |
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jcamins |
magnuse: okay, add the same if statement on line 476. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: ok |
| 13:38 |
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jcamins |
I want to know if it's giving good results. |
| 13:38 |
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magnuse |
heh, that gives a weird result list |
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jcamins |
Okay, *none* of your records appear to have been indexed. |
| 13:40 |
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jcamins |
Or, rather, to have been recorded in the indexes. |
| 13:40 |
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jcamins |
Which is of course a very different thing. |
| 13:40 |
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magnuse |
looks to me like it is finding the records, but can't display them |
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magnuse |
it's giving the right number of results, compared to the old installation |
| 13:41 |
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jcamins |
Yup. And it knows you have 150 records. |
| 13:41 |
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magnuse |
yeah |
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jcamins |
Would you try running rebuild_zebra.pl -v -v -v -r -x |
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jcamins |
-b |
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kf |
normarc specific problem?:( |
| 13:43 |
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jcamins |
kf: nope. |
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jcamins |
catalog.bywatersolutions.com. |
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kf |
oh ok |
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magnuse |
jcamins: would this work? $ sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v -v -v esme |
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jcamins |
If it passes the -v through, then yes. |
| 13:46 |
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jcamins |
Looks like it does, so yes. |
| 13:47 |
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magnuse |
and "2&> ~/esme-vvv.txt" to redirect all of the output to a file, right? |
| 13:48 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 13:48 |
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magnuse |
just need to scp that file around a bit... |
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magnuse |
jcamins: there you go: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/esme-vvv.txt |
| 13:53 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins |
I don't see any problem. |
| 13:55 |
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magnuse |
:-( |
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drojf |
kf: it's listed on the lists site automatically i think |
| 14:03 |
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jcamins |
Interesting! |
| 14:03 |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 14:03 |
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jcamins |
Fridolyn's suggestion is a good one. |
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magnuse |
hm, not sure i see the relevance? |
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jcamins |
The problem is somewhere before the records get into Koha. |
| 14:08 |
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jcamins |
Oh, look at that. |
| 14:08 |
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jcamins |
Paul has instructions for fixing the problem. |
| 14:08 |
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magnuse |
but the records i'm indexing here came along with the database dump? |
| 14:08 |
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jcamins |
Yes, but they also come along with the configuration. |
| 14:09 |
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jcamins |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=3087#c29 |
| 14:09 |
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huginn |
Bug 3087: enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB |
| 14:09 |
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* magnuse |
reads |
| 14:09 |
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jcamins |
Though obviously you don't want to set it to UNIMARC. |
| 14:10 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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magnuse |
so i should run those sed commands? |
| 14:11 |
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magnuse |
with normarc, of course |
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jcamins |
You'll just want to check that it should be set to "normarc" and not something else. |
| 14:12 |
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jcamins |
Okay, I need to pack up and go. |
| 14:12 |
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jcamins |
Good luck! |
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vfernandes |
one thing: the slips are configurable on notices interface but they aren't used on the moremember-receipt.tt |
| 14:22 |
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vfernandes |
is this normal? |
| 14:29 |
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vfernandes |
something is wrong.... |
| 14:30 |
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vfernandes |
if I'm at patron details on check out tab and then I press "print quick slip" the user is redirect to printslip.pl |
| 14:37 |
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vfernandes |
if I'm at patron details on details tab and then I press "print quick slip" the user is redirect to moremember.pl |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
| 14:37 |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 0.6°C (3:13 PM CET on December 10, 2012). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:37 |
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drojf |
more snow… |
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kf |
drojf: yeah, listed, but on a page that is quite hidden - maybe a little bit of advertising would be good? :) |
| 14:37 |
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drojf |
the other language specific lists are also not there |
| 14:37 |
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drojf |
but a reference to that page |
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mib_6eiq2g |
hi i'm trying to install koha using the instructions from this page, http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ackages_from_List , i have create the database and the user but now i don't know what to do |
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drojf |
i don't see how we are more interesting than the french list or the spanish one |
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drojf |
mib_6eiq2g: it would help to ask a specific question. "don't know what to do" is pretty vague |
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drojf |
what is the problem? |
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wahanui |
the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. |
| 14:37 |
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drojf |
heh. ignore wahanui |
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drojf |
mib_6eiq2g: are you looking for a development version or a regular version of koha? |
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vfernandes |
printslip.pl uses the template, moremember.pl not.... shouldn't both of them use the templateS? |
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mib_6eiq2g |
the last three commands that i have execute are this $ export __KOHA_USER__=$USER $ export __KOHA_GROUP__=$USER $ echo $USER and when i try to execute $ perl Makefile.PL i give me an error |
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drojf |
mib_6eiq2g: are you looking for a development version or a regular version of koha? |
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mib_6eiq2g |
for a regular one |
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drojf |
then you have the wrong guide |
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drojf |
please see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
| 14:38 |
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drojf |
that should be easier to install to |
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drojf |
too |
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mib_6eiq2g |
thank you, i have asked for the instructions for the installation and one gives me this |
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gerundio |
mail? |
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wahanui |
somebody said mail was not understandable |
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gerundio |
email? |
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gerundio |
email setup? |
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gerundio |
is there any guide on how to setup email on koha? |
| 14:48 |
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gerundio |
I have postfix set on the server |
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gerundio |
but the notices aren't being received by patrons |
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gerundio |
I'm not sure what is originating this behavior, so I wanted to make sure everything is set up properly |
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drojf |
have you checked the logs? |
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* drojf |
goes out into the snow |
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gerundio |
drojf, I did |
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gerundio |
didn't find any relevant info there though |
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vfernandes |
have you set the KohaEmailAdminAddress or something like that? |
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gerundio |
yes |
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gerundio |
the cronjobs are in place too |
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vfernandes |
which is the result of the messages? failed? |
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vfernandes |
you can check in the database directly or in the patron details messages separator |
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gerundio |
the message_queue table is empty |
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gerundio |
which I find to be weird |
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vfernandes |
so the messages aren't being generated |
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gerundio |
as if no messages have been generated |
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gerundio |
exactly |
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vfernandes |
every patron category as messaging enable? |
| 14:54 |
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vfernandes |
EnhancedMessagingPreferences is enable? |
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gerundio |
EnhancedMessagingPreferences is not enabled |
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gerundio |
but that just seems to enable patrons to set they're notices receiving options, right? |
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kf |
gerundio: which kind of notices are you trying to send? |
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kf |
no, it enables the notices listed in the table in general - standards to be set at the patron category level |
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gerundio |
kf, some of our library operators have made some circulation tests |
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kf |
but it's not for overdues, that's why I was asking aboutthe message you want to send :) |
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kf |
checkout and checkin slips by email then? |
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gerundio |
borrowed some books and didn't return them to check the fines and overdue delivery notices |
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vfernandes |
you have to enable EnhancedMessagingPreferences |
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kf |
they have to make sure the patrons they test with have email addresses |
| 14:57 |
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kf |
and have the boxes ticked for the messages they want to receive |
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vfernandes |
and then set for each patron category the default message set |
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gerundio |
kf, all users have valid email addresses since our auth is being made via LDAP |
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kf |
the standards from the patron category are only applied to new patrons, for existing the messages are deactivated |
| 14:57 |
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kf |
vfernandes++ yep exactly :) |
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vfernandes |
for the existent patron I think you will need to set them manually |
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gerundio |
where can I check the patron category messaging setting? |
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vfernandes |
administration -> patron categories |
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gerundio |
I looked in "Patron category administration" but I don't see any such option |
| 14:59 |
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gerundio |
Overdue notice required?!? |
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vfernandes |
..../cgi-bin/koha/admin/categorie.pl |
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vfernandes |
Have you enable EnhancedMessagingPreferences? Then when creating or editing a category will be a table in the end with the notices preferences |
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gerundio |
vfernandes, EnhancedMessagingPreferences was the answers |
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vfernandes |
each patron was now the same table on the details page |
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vfernandes |
*has now |
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gerundio |
the text for the description of what this field does lead me in error |
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gerundio |
it looked to me that this allowed patrons to change their notices policies |
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vfernandes |
yes they can change it on the OPAC |
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vfernandes |
but it's the only way to activate the email sending |
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vfernandes |
maybe the preference should be change to only activate the configuration in the staff client... and then should be another to activate it in the OPAC |
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H |
sudo koha-create --create-db bibliotheek sudo: koha-create: command not found ... annyone ? |
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gerundio |
vfernandes, my point too |
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gerundio |
otherwise it seems like patrons can simply turn off notices |
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vfernandes |
I will fill up a bug with this |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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gerundio |
hey oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
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* druthb |
giggles at wahanui |
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vfernandes |
gerundio: bug 9254 created |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9254 enhancement, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problem with EnhancedMessagingPreferences |
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gerundio |
vfernandes, thanks for submitting the bug |
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gerundio |
btw, does koha consider weekends as open library days? |
| 15:36 |
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vfernandes |
depends on the library calendar |
| 15:36 |
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gerundio |
I just got a complaint saying that weekends were being accounted for |
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vfernandes |
you have to set in the library calendar that weekends are close days |
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gerundio |
so all I have to do is set 2 "Holiday repeating weekly", 1 for Saturday and 1 for Sunday? |
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vfernandes |
yes |
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vfernandes |
then you have so see your configurations if circulation and holds are using the close days or not |
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jcamins |
gerundio: you have to configure Koha to treat weekends as holidays. |
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jcamins |
magnuse: did changing the syntax work? |
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vfernandes |
how suspensions works in koha 3.8.X |
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vfernandes |
? |
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vfernandes |
it's possible to set the following: a patron returns a overdue book with more than 15 days... the patron is debarred for 30 days |
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jcamins |
Is that a problem? |
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vfernandes |
after X days returns returns another overdue... those X days can be sum to the suspension? |
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jcamins |
I do not know. |
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jcamins |
Suspensions aren't commonly used in the US, so I've only ever used the feature when testing bugs. |
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vfernandes |
let me test it |
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gerundio |
Portuguese librarians love suspensions :p |
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vfernandes |
debarred is always being set to '9999-12-31' |
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vfernandes |
:/ |
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oleonard |
That is correct |
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vfernandes |
shouldn't be set to 30 days? |
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vfernandes |
from now? |
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oleonard |
"Plain," non-date-dependent debarrals are set to that date |
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vfernandes |
in which table? |
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kf |
bye all |
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oleonard |
Are you talking about a debarral which is set by circulation rules? |
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vfernandes |
yes... but I have a 30 days suspension |
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vfernandes |
on third overdue email (16 days after overdue) the patron is debarred and suspended for 30 days |
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jcamins |
I didn't think the overdue triggers allowed you to set the number of days. |
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jcamins |
I thought you were using fine-in-days. |
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jcamins |
They don't. |
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jcamins |
It's just a checkbox. |
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vfernandes |
humm ok... I thought suspension in days started at the beginning of the debar |
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jcamins |
No. |
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vfernandes |
ok thanks |
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jcamins |
At least, it didn't use to. |
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gerundio |
off topic: anybody here using Google Chrome? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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gerundio |
did yours crashed too just now? |
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oleonard |
Do you mean Google Mail? |
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libsysguy |
no |
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libsysguy |
google chrome |
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wahanui |
well, google chrome is fine |
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libsysguy |
and yes |
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jcamins |
Chrome works fine for me. |
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jcamins |
Gmail is having a service disruption, I think. |
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* oleonard |
is using Chrome Canary at the moment |
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gerundio |
yeap |
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gerundio |
I guess chrome crashed for users who had gmail opened in a tab or something |
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chris_n |
you know its not a going to be a good monday when the first thing you see on your linux workstation is a screen full of /dev/foo media errors where foo is your single hdd |
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jcamins |
gerundio: I had Gmail open in two tabs. |
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gerundio |
jcamins, and yours didn't crash? |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: nope. and i'm not sure it can be that, since another instance created in just the same way on the same server, but with a clean database works. i suspect it must ve something in the database |
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jcamins |
magnuse: so you restored an instance with no data? |
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magnuse |
um no. i created two instances, then loaded a 3.8 database dump into it one, and ran through the web installer on the other |
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magnuse |
then staged/imported the records from the dumped instance into the clean one |
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magnuse |
the first one does not work, the swcond one does |
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jcamins |
Okay, so you did not use koha-restore at all? |
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* jcamins |
thought you had. |
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magnuse |
nope |
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magnuse |
just koha-mysql esme < esme.sql |
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jcamins |
Hmm... |
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magnuse |
so the config files are all from 3.10 |
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magnuse |
on both instances |
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* jcamins |
blames marcflavour. |
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jcamins |
Check capitalization. |
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libsysguy |
chrome died for me again |
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magnuse |
jcamins: gah! the one that worked had marcflavour = marc21. changing that to normarc and reindexing gives the same search error as on the other instance |
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jcamins |
I suggest you just submit a patch to make "normarc" be treated as "marc21". |
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magnuse |
but changing the esme one that never worked to marcflavour = marc21 does *not* solve the problem |
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jcamins |
magnuse: did you do a full reindex after changing the marcflavour? |
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magnuse |
jcamins: yup |
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magnuse |
sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v esme |
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jcamins |
And you made sure that you didn't have any changes from when I told you to edit the various config files? |
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magnuse |
hm, guess i did not revert the changes in koha-conf.xml |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
nengard: add lists permissions |
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nengard |
i've got a question about the feature in bug 7310 (I did not read the entire thing yet) - if you're not allowing patrons to create public lists can they still allow people to add things to their private lists? seems like they shouldn't be allowed to ? but just thought I should check for the manual |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
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chris_n |
stupid gmail |
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nengard |
it's back |
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nengard |
or it's back for me |
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jcamins |
nengard: apparently it's causing Chrome to crash for people who are seemingly not us. |
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nengard |
well it did crash for me earlier |
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nengard |
it's just fine now ? |
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senator |
weird. when the gmail outage started, it spontaneously crashed chrome for me too ( 23.0.1271.95 on 64-bit linux ) |
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senator |
begin conspiracy theories |
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gerundio |
mine crashed 3 or 4 times in a matter of minutes |
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gerundio |
from what I read this happened to logged in users |
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jcamins |
It's a remote exploit of the Pentium hang bug!! |
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jcamins |
Everyone hide under a desk! |
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gerundio |
we tried to trace the browser traffic with Wireshark to see if we could figure out what was causing the crashes, but no luck so far :) |
| 17:28 |
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gerundio |
Google should apologize and reinstate Google Apps free edition again eheheeh |
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magnuse |
jcamins: there is another problem with bug 3087: debian/templates/koha-conf-site.xml.in was not updated, so it is still hardcoded to <retrieval syntax="usmarc" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3087 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB |
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jcamins |
magnuse: you should file another bug for that. |
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magnuse |
yup |
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jenkins_koha |
nengard: update lists permissions in the opac |
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libsysguy |
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1[…]934/gmail-is-down |
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libsysguy |
gerundio jcamins ^^ |
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jcamins |
Ah, Chrome sync. |
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jcamins |
I don't use it. |
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* libsysguy |
does |
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libsysguy |
its handy |
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jcamins |
I think it's lunch time. |
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libsysguy |
bring back hotdogs |
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gerundio |
libsysguy, all back to normal now |
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gerundio |
sync is very handy indeed |
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libsysguy |
yup |
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gerundio |
is there any function to update a subfield for a given marc field on a record? |
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magnuse |
has anyone tried the 3.10 packages with unimarc? |
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gerundio |
I'm coding a script to update unimarc subfield 100 a |
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gerundio |
I'm able to see the values using $field->subfields() |
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gerundio |
I'm even able to update it using $field->{_subfields}[1] = new value |
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gerundio |
but I'm pretty sure there must be a better way |
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gerundio |
I can't really say if the value is always in index 1 |
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magnuse |
gerundio: my $subfield = $field->subfield( 'a' ); |
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magnuse |
http://search.cpan.org/~gmchar[…]ubfield%28code%29 |
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gerundio |
then for update all I have to do is $field->update(a => 'new value'), right? |
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magnuse |
yeah, i think so |
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gerundio |
thanks a lot |
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magnuse |
jcamins: i did apt-get remove/install koha-common to reset the common configs, and now both instances work with marcflavour = marc21 and fails with marcflavour = normarc. that's some kind of progress, i guess :-) |
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magnuse |
i think that the conclusion so far is that 3087 broke the packages for marcflavour != marc21, but i might be wrong |
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jcamins |
magnuse: that's my conclusion as well. |
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magnuse |
andeven if i choose nb-NO and normarc during installation, marcflavour is set to marc21 when i'm done with the installation... don't think it used to be like that |
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jcamins |
magnuse: I pushed a patch from you to fix that, and it worked when I tried it. |
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magnuse |
hm, the only one i can remember doing recently was the firstdayoftheweek setting |
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jcamins |
Oh, maybe that's the one I tested. |
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jcamins |
Alas, marcelr isn't around. I would've liked to ask if he'd heard of "Van Nelle." |
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magnuse |
oh well, i'll do some more digging tomorrow |
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magnuse |
jcamins: for lots of help and inspiration :-) |
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magnuse |
uh |
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magnuse |
jcamins++ |
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magnuse |
there |
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gerundio |
jcamins, does the $field->update() function update all the references on the DB? |
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gerundio |
for that UNIMARC field 100 subfield a fix script |
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jcamins |
gerundio: no. |
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jenkins_koha |
nengard: update cleanup_database.pl description |
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jenkins_koha |
nengard: update cleanup_database.pl description |
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magnuse |
bug 9256, btw |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , debian/templates/koha-conf-site.xml.in is hardcoded to retrieval syntax = usmarc |
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gerundio |
so far I have 1. GetMarcBiblio, 2. update the value on sublfield a |
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gerundio |
do I have to do something else? |
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jcamins |
gerundio: it updates a single field in a single record. |
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jcamins |
gerundio: you'll need to save the record. |
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gerundio |
ok, but will it update both marc and marcxml collumns or just one of them? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Pasting a report to the board, if someone could take a quick look at it and give me some advice it would be great! |
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pastebot |
"YoungPublicLibrarian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "SELECT b.surname, b.firstname," (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/306 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
With that report, how would I limit the results to just a specific branches fines? It already limits the patrons to that of a specific branch. |
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jcamins |
It will save both, provided you use the API. |
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chris_n |
its about time google owned up to their problems |
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chris_n |
http://www.google.com/appsstat[…]&ts=1355201999000 |
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jcamins |
If you're using the template script, the way it saves the record should work. |
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gerundio |
ok, jcamins, thanks again |
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gerundio |
now I have to run |
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gerundio |
tomorrow is another day |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Would I just need to add "AND i.homebranch = <<Home Branch|branches>>" to the where statement? |
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vfernandes |
bye koha community :) see you tomorrow |
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tcohen |
www::mechanize rules |
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jcamins |
tcohen: agreed! |
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rangi |
Is it the 10th in the us now? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
It is. |
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cait |
hm shoudl be |
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oleonard |
So someone's vacation should be over |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Would I just need to add "AND i.homebranch = <<Home Branch|branches>>" to the where statement of the report I posted earlier if I want to limit the results by fines just for a specific branch? |
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Topic for #koha is now yay sjohnson is back!! |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
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jcamins |
lol |
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drojf |
sjohnson++ |
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drojf |
lol |
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cait |
lol |
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tcohen |
heh rangi lol |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Would I just need to add "AND i.homebranch = <<Home Branch|branches>>" to the where statement of the report I'm posting now if I want to limit the results by fines just for a specific branch? |
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"YoungPublicLibrarian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "SELECT b.surname, b.firstname," (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/307 |
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reiveune |
bye |
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* chris_n |
attempt to discern the output of fines.pl... |
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chris_n |
:/usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs# ./fines.pl -v |
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chris_n |
writing to /tmp/koha_biblios_2012-12-10.log |
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chris_n |
Fines assessment -- $today->ymd() -- Saved to $filename |
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chris_n |
Number of Overdue Items: |
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chris_n |
counted $overdue_items |
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chris_n |
reported $counted |
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chris_n |
look messed up to anyone else? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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cait |
hi chris_n :) |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Would I just need to add "AND i.homebranch = <<Home Branch|branches>>" to the where statement of this report (http://paste.koha-community.org/307) if I want to limit the results by fines just for a specific branch? |
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rangi |
Try it and see |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Would love to, but my branch doesn't have report writing permissions... |
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rangi |
Can't help you with that then |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Does the logic seem correct? |
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rangi |
Ok meeting time |
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wahanui |
meeting time is, like, always going to favour one section of the globe |
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jcamins |
wahanui: you know, I think you may be right about that. |
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wahanui |
jcamins: what? |
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jcamins |
wahanui: never mind. |
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wahanui |
Oh good, I didn't understand and probably never will, being a bot. |
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cait |
lol |
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tcohen |
jcamins, understood what you meant |
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tcohen |
should that file be removed? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I don't think so. I think it's very useful for someone who wants to set up a backup for themselves. |
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tcohen |
ok |
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jcamins |
And with 9235 it would probably be possible to even just tell people "run backup.sh to backup your database." |
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tcohen |
yeap |
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* cait |
gears up for qa |
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cait |
or something like that |
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oleonard |
Gearing up for QA: http://bit.ly/XKNDZh |
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cait |
i love the makeup |
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tcohen |
yeah, those mad QA team members are going hunt |
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jcamins |
Are we sure about the API for GetMember? |
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jcamins |
Yes we are. |
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jcamins |
Ugh. |
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tcohen |
jcamins, for building packages from master for testing, do I new squeeze or squeeze-dev in my k-c sources? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: squeeze-dev. |
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wahanui |
well, squeeze-dev is master |
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jcamins |
tcohen: but be prepared to spend lots of time gnashing your teeth. |
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jcamins |
That reminds me. |
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* jcamins |
files bug 9258. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9258 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Debian packages should not depend on CHI |
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tcohen |
--- eq 'eythian'? |
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* jcamins |
will probably ask eythian to patch it, since he knows how to do it properly, yes. |
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tcohen |
my source tree is busy building some deb packages right now, and will be for a while (non-SSD box right now) :-P |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
got an error updating my database? |
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jcamins |
cait: oh? |
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cait |
yeah it's weird |
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cait |
quite sure I never tested 7919 |
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cait |
but it says the tables already exist |
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jcamins |
I had asked you to test bug 7919 a while ago, so maybe you did. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7919 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes) |
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cait |
hm no I didn't |
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jcamins |
Oh, well, you might also have updated when it was only semi-merged. |
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cait |
hm maybe |
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jcamins |
(there was no version number set) |
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cait |
possible |
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wahanui |
it has been said that possible is everything, but I think it's probably easy to miss something here |
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oleonard |
members.patronimage.pl is really slow... 5.5 seconds to load a 65Kb jpeg :( |
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cait |
hm that sounds slow |
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jcamins |
Very slow. |
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cait |
are you testing or really doing it? |
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oleonard |
Of course that's on my dinky VM |
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oleonard |
I'm looking at how quickly assets load on circulation.pl |
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jcamins |
I hope we load the patron image in an AJAXy fashion? |
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jcamins |
If it takes 5.5 seconds. |
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oleonard |
It's an img src target, so I don't think doing it AJAXy would make a difference? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I think the $(document).ready() Javascript won't fire until it's finished? |
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jcamins |
I could be mistaken. |
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oleonard |
I don't think that's correct |
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jcamins |
Do I have it backwards? |
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jcamins |
document.ready fires before everything has finished, and load fires after? |
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oleonard |
Yeah, that's why we have to use something like window.onload for managing Amazon covers and things like that |
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tcohen |
oh, --save-after-login, relieved i remembered u |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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oleonard |
document.ready waits for the DOM to load, meaning the whole structure of the page |
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jcamins |
Okay, never mind, then. |
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jcamins |
I knew one of the triggers would wait until every single image had been downloaded. |
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jcamins |
Is anyone looking for a name for a boy? I suggest Gerald Hugh Tyrwhitt-Wilson. |
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tcohen |
root koha-dev:~# koha-create --create-db test |
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tcohen |
awk: cmd. line:4: fatal: cannot open file `/etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf' for reading (No such file or directory) |
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oleonard |
Smashing. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: sounds like koha-common might not be configured. |
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jcamins |
Try `sudo apt-get -f install` |
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tcohen |
dpkg-reconfigure |
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tcohen |
looks like i need mysql-server i guess |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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tcohen |
can i tell it I use an external db? |
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jcamins |
Yes, but then you have to write the koha-common.cnf file yourself. |
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tcohen |
ok |
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tcohen |
a dialog for entering that data would be handy |
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jcamins |
Ooh, that would be nifty. |
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tcohen |
yeah, some error handling too! |
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wizzyrea |
I am sure robin would take patches :) |
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jcamins |
See wizzyrea's response. ^^ ;) |
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tcohen |
i'll talk with robin about this |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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oleonard |
by #koha |
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* jcamins |
works out that "Le poisson d'or" is a "goldfish," eventually. |
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rambutan |
@seen brooke |
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huginn |
rambutan: brooke was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <Brooke> enywho, seriously, leaving this time |
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rambutan |
Brooke was involved in a discussion in Sept about printing ID cards from within Koha. Discussion seemed to end quickly, but somehow I want to poke that sleeping dog. |
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rangi |
rambutan: got your library card, thank you |
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rangi |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]47/in/photostream |
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eythian |
@later tell tcohen a debconf dialogue system for configuring things on install is On My List. Patches welcome however ;) |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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rambutan |
good! |
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drojf |
is it possible to cherry pick for a custom tarball installation? like having a certain version like 3.8.7 in git, cherrypicking a patch or two and then roll that into the tarball? how is that packed up for installation? |
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jcamins |
drojf: yes, `git archive --format=tar --prefix=koha-drojf-3.10.01/ drojfsbranch | gzip > koha-drojf-3.10.01.tar.gz` |
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drojf |
cool, thanks |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: is libsysgut what you get when you spend too much time sitting in front of the computer working on Koha? :P |
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libsysguy |
pretty much jcamins |
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libsysguy |
and too much coffee |
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libsysguy |
the libsysgut just gets to churning |
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wizzyrea |
libsysgut? |
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rambutan |
from beer fridays? |
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rambutan |
and wine thursdays? |
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wizzyrea |
and pizza wednesdays |
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jcamins |
Pizza... |
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wahanui |
hmmm... pizza is in the oven. |
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rambutan |
what about monday and tuesday? |
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jcamins |
yesss... |
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jcamins |
However, today is saag paneer Monday. |
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wizzyrea |
saag paneer. |
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wizzyrea |
now I want that. |
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wizzyrea |
curse you. |
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jcamins |
:P |
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rambutan |
chatting w/ jcamins also requires chatting w/ google sometimes |
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jcamins |
lol |
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cait |
hehe true |
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jcamins |
I started reading Les Miserables. |
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jcamins |
I finished book 1. |
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jcamins |
And got through the first six chapters of book 2. |
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rambutan |
and in French, si? |
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rambutan |
oui? |
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jcamins |
No, I cheated and went with an English translation. |
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rambutan |
1/2 credit then |
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jcamins |
At that point I got thoroughly sick of reading a second-by-second recounting of the Battle of Waterloo, and took a break to read... |
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wizzyrea |
something in latin |
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jcamins |
1 book on knitting, the Yellow Wallpaper, and a book on beer brewing. |
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jcamins |
Oh! |
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jcamins |
And Metamorphosis. |
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wizzyrea |
i approve of your future beer brewing endeavours |
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jcamins |
bug 8878 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , koha-shell: a command to make using koha commands easier |
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jcamins |
Heh. I don't think I'll be brewing beer |
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jcamins |
I don't really drink it. |
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eythian |
http://zythophile.wordpress.com/ <-- jcamins you may also be interested in this blog |
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eythian |
oh, or you may not then. |
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jcamins |
A lot of my friends brew beer, though. |
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jcamins |
So I thought I would learn how to make a brewery ca. the turn of the last century. |
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eythian |
oh, then you will be interested in that blog. |
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jcamins |
Yes! Second picture is a scan of an ad from the nineteenth century! |
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* jcamins |
closes up. |
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eythian |
haha |
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dcook |
Good morning/some time of day, #koha |
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rangi |
hey dcook |
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dcook |
hey rangi. How's life been treating you? |
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rangi |
busy busy, but good |
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rangi |
how about you? |
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dcook |
About the same. I've finished up my MLIS course requirements, so just waiting for my marks and letter of completion. I'll be back in Oz in about 3 weeks. Time sure flies... |
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rangi |
sweet! |
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dcook |
It certainly feels good to be done grad school :) |
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dcook |
On a more Koha note, I don't suppose you've done much with using ICU with Zebra? I think I've got the main idea down, but it seems problematic if libraries have more records in more than one language :S |
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rangi |
i think talking to cait would be best |
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rangi |
she has libraries that have german and hebrew records |
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dcook |
Ooo |
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dcook |
Excellent |
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dcook |
I saw her talking a bit about it in the logs, so that's certainly an idea |
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dcook |
Thanks for the tip |
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rangi |
no worries |
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drojf |
build-git-snapshot does a lot of things. unfortunately building a deb package is not one of them |
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rangi |
hm does for me |
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rangi |
just finished building one about 20 mins ago .. where is it stopping for you? |
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pastebot |
"drojf" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "build deb package" (332 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/308 |
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drojf |
with all the dependencies and dummies i don't understand what is missing in the end |
| 23:45 |
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rangi |
you are missing a few |
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rangi |
what you need to do is add debian.koha-community.org to your sources list in your pbuilder instance |
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rangi |
because a few packages have crept in that arent in squeeze |
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rangi |
(or even wheezy) |
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rangi |
so we have ahd to package them (we as in eythian) |
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drojf |
ah that makes sense |
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rangi |
what i do is |
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rangi |
sudo pbuilder --login --save-after-login |
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eythian |
the command that does it all is in the wiki |
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rangi |
and just check the sources.list and add it then logout |
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drojf |
eythian: what i did came from http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way |
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eythian |
yeah, it's actually the hard way |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_Debian_Packages |
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eythian |
feel free to update pages as appropriate :) |
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drojf |
we have way too many ways of doing things in the wiki ;) |
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eythian |
yeah |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
feel free to mark some obsolete |
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rangi |
thats what i do |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Install-dep-cpan |
