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| 00:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #67: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/67/ |
| 00:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* dpavlin: Bug 8953 - opac-userupdate encoding issues |
| 00:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: But 8787: don't load the page if OpacMaintenance is ON |
| 00:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* mtompset: Bug 8910 - silent warnings triggered in about.pl |
| 00:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8953 critical, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, RESOLVED FIXED, opac-userupdate encoding issues |
| 00:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8910 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, RESOLVED FIXED, silent warnings triggered in about.pl |
| 00:36 |
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wizzyrea |
squee! |
| 00:36 |
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wizzyrea |
and stay fixed! |
| 00:36 |
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* wizzyrea |
does a little dance |
| 00:43 |
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mtj |
eythian, did your koha-shell script get pushed? |
| 00:43 |
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eythian |
mtj: not sure off the top of my head |
| 00:44 |
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mtj |
ahh needs signoff bug 8878 |
| 00:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , koha-shell: a command to make using koha commands easier |
| 01:19 |
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eythian |
wahanui: germs is also http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg |
| 01:19 |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
| 01:19 |
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eythian |
wahanui: germs |
| 01:19 |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 01:19 |
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eythian |
wahanui: germs |
| 01:19 |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 01:19 |
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eythian |
wahanui: germs |
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wahanui |
rumour has it germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg |
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jcamins |
bug 8665 |
| 02:01 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records |
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eythian |
wahanui: code smell is http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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Oak |
Ahoy me hearties! |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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julian_m |
hello |
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wahanui |
salut, julian_m |
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asaurat |
hi |
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lds |
hzllo |
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lds |
sorry, hello |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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magnuse |
@later tell wizzyrea: if 8941 applies cleanly it would be nice to have in 3.6.x, but don't put too much effort into it |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
@arewethereyet |
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huginn |
magnuse: Not yet - wait 3 days |
| 09:49 |
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magnuse |
oh, paul_p around? |
| 09:49 |
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paul_p |
magnuse around bodo ? nope ;-) |
| 09:49 |
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paul_p |
@wunder bodo |
| 09:50 |
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huginn |
paul_p: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (10:20 AM CET on November 19, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:50 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 09:50 |
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paul_p |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (10:30 AM CET on November 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:50 |
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magnuse |
yeah yeah, rub it in :-) |
| 09:50 |
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paul_p |
I stay in Marseille :D :D |
| 09:50 |
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magnuse |
talking of which: are the days for the hackfest settled? |
| 09:50 |
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* paul_p |
still working on release notes... |
| 09:50 |
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paul_p |
magnuse I think so, because brendan already bought 2 tickets for him and Eliott ;-) |
| 09:51 |
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paul_p |
so let it be march 18th - 22th |
| 09:51 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 09:51 |
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magnuse |
if we can get someone to watch the dogs i'll bring the whole family |
| 09:51 |
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magnuse |
and stay an extra week - easter! |
| 09:52 |
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paul_p |
really good idea ! |
| 09:53 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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nafeesapatel |
Hi, in the past week or so I have translated some coding to english format and none of my submissions have been reviewed. Have you any idea how long this process will take? |
| 11:52 |
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jcamins_away |
nafeesapatel: if you mean you submitted patches to Koha, it depends on a lot of factors. |
| 11:53 |
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jcamins |
How hard they are to test is the most important one. |
| 11:53 |
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jcamins |
Which bugs did you submit patches for? |
| 11:55 |
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jcamins |
If you mean on translate.koha-community.org, you might want to send an e-mail to the koha-translate list. |
| 11:59 |
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nafeesapatel |
yeah i did translate on the koha community...urrm, will you be able to give the me the email for koha-tranlsate? |
| 11:59 |
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jcamins |
mailing lists? |
| 11:59 |
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wahanui |
mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 11:59 |
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jcamins |
^^ if you are doing translating, you should subscribe to the koha-translate mailing list. |
| 12:03 |
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nafeesapatel |
yeah i've done that, it's just that I am translating as part of my assignment for university and it's been 2 weeks and I can't do any work until someone accepts my reviews |
| 12:04 |
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nafeesapatel |
thanks for the help though :) |
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| 12:10 |
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jcamins |
You should definitely e-mail koha-translate, then. |
| 12:10 |
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jcamins |
I just took a look, and it looks like you translated for UK English, and I'm not sure that's maintained at all. |
| 12:12 |
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jcamins |
(so I don't know who needs to approve them) |
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| 12:15 |
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nafeesapatel |
mhmm well I have emailed them and I see how it goes from there...is this website active? |
| 12:15 |
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tcohen |
morning #koha! |
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jcamins |
What website? |
| 12:23 |
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wahanui |
website is http://www.koha-community.org |
| 12:23 |
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jcamins |
wahanui: thanks, but I was asking nafeesapatel. |
| 12:23 |
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wahanui |
jcamins: sure thing |
| 12:23 |
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jcamins |
(wahanui is a bot) |
| 12:23 |
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jcamins |
(wahanui? |
| 12:23 |
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wahanui |
(wahanui is a bot, and he sometimes remembers silly things) |
| 12:23 |
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jcamins |
(jcamins? |
| 12:24 |
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jcamins |
An amusing bot. |
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| 12:26 |
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nafeesapatel |
This koha website because it seems like it's not that's probably why I have not been given any feedback |
| 12:27 |
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jcamins |
I don't know what you mean by "active." |
| 12:27 |
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nafeesapatel |
meaning, it's not updated daily etc |
| 12:27 |
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jcamins |
translate.koha-community.org is very active, but koha-community.org is a static website. |
| 12:27 |
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nafeesapatel |
ok |
| 12:28 |
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jcamins |
There wouldn't be anything that needed updating daily even if someone were interested in volunteering hours of their time every day writing content for koha-community.org. |
| 12:31 |
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jcamins |
@later tell drojf The solution to everything is to replace Koha with Google! |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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magnuse |
gah! why on earth would my records display "norwegian wovels" as garbage in search results but look normal in detail view? |
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magnuse |
it's the same in the opac and the intranet. using xslt everywhere |
| 12:53 |
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paul_p |
magnuse = can it be because search results comes from zebra while detail comes from mySQL ? |
| 12:54 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that sounds like it might do it |
| 12:54 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: possibly the records are in MARC-8 and getting mangled by Zebra? |
| 12:55 |
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magnuse |
ummm... i forgot to reindex after the last import... |
| 12:55 |
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jcamins |
That might also have something to do with it. |
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* magnuse |
blushes |
| 12:58 |
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magnuse |
yup, problem solved |
| 12:58 |
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magnuse |
thanks paul_p and jcamins |
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* magnuse |
takes the dogs for a walk |
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oleonard |
Hideley-ho, Koharinos. |
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wajasu |
i've mentioned deleting all my auth_header (authorites) and running misc/link_bibs_to_authorites.pl with auto_generate authorities on. |
| 13:29 |
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wajasu |
it seems there are lots of dups. |
| 13:30 |
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wajasu |
i think it might be because as each bib is selected and the authority is searched for in the zebra index, non are found. |
| 13:31 |
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wajasu |
or at least only two get linked to the same auth record |
| 13:32 |
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wajasu |
so its probably fine when you catalog, wait unitl zebra reindexes, and catalog again, but not for a batch routine. |
| 13:32 |
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wajasu |
i'll have to look into this tonight. |
| 13:37 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: yes, that's correct. The only solution would be to generate authorities one at a time. |
| 13:37 |
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jcamins |
link_bibs_to_authorities.pl really was intended for just what the name says... linking. |
| 13:39 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, I'm a "developer guy." |
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wajasu |
ha ha |
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* wajasu |
off to work |
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oleonard |
Also, open source means nobody gets paid ever? |
| 13:44 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: no, people get paid. |
| 13:44 |
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jcamins |
Just not us. |
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* oleonard |
can confirm that |
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libsysguy |
^^ hehe |
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oleonard |
brb |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 5 December 2012 18:00 UTC |
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oleonard |
Hi maximep |
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maximep |
good morning =) |
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nengard |
@later tell jcamins i know i asked you about the DidYouMeanFromAuthorities preference for the manual, but i can't find it in the irc logs - can you email me a short explanation of how it works? It's the only new feature not in the 3.10 manual yet |
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huginn |
nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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* chris_n |
hates it when the wiki lies |
| 15:37 |
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chris_n |
oh... and g'morning |
| 15:38 |
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paul_p |
phew... 43 pages of enhancements descriptions (LibreOffice document, with screenshots) ... I want this release to be as appealing as possible... |
| 15:39 |
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paul_p |
the nightmare being that, now, I'll have to translate all this into french for BibLibre customers... |
| 15:40 |
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oleonard |
chris_n: The wiki lies? |
| 15:41 |
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chris_n |
oleonard: on the git-bz page: "If you have more patches/commits you can use e.g. HEAD~2, HEAD~commitid etc to specify the range of commits you want to include." is patently false |
| 15:42 |
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chris_n |
git-bz does not know how to handle a range of commits |
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libsysguy |
I thought you had to include the interactive tag |
| 15:42 |
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libsysguy |
to make that work |
| 15:42 |
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chris_n |
at least not the flavor I received from the git.k-c.org |
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libsysguy |
which I think it says in the description |
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* libsysguy |
could be wrong |
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chris_n |
no word of that on the wiki |
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chris_n |
-e, yes |
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chris_n |
but it still only handles one at a time; at least in my case 8-P |
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paul_p |
chris_n = I thought that, but have found how to make it work |
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paul_p |
chris_n HEAD~2..HEAD should work |
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* chris_n |
tries |
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chris_n |
well its probably a stinking mess, but they're all signed-off (for the second time) and attached |
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* chris_n |
is not sure they will apply in the order attached, however |
| 15:50 |
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chris_n |
paul_p: tnx; bug 7167 is now signed off for the second time |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements |
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chris_n |
jcamins ^^ |
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chris_n |
QA team ^^ |
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chris_n |
:) |
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chris_n |
doesn't bz have a drag-n-drop reorder feature for attachments? |
| 16:00 |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n: nope. :( |
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oleonard |
Bug 9106 causes data loss, so it would be great if someone could give my patch a try. |
| 16:03 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information |
| 16:05 |
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maximep |
wow, the 3.10 release notes document is amazing! It really shows how much great work was done |
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jcamins |
maximep: and yet the first response to the announcement is from someone who refuses to listen to instructions demanding that we volunteer our time for his problem. |
| 16:08 |
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oleonard |
In big letters, too. |
| 16:09 |
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maximep |
huh, missed that |
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jcamins |
nengard: DidYouMeanFromAuthorities was removed. It was replaced by the Did You Mean configuration page. |
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jcamins |
nengard: that's why you didn't have documentation on it. |
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nengard |
okay, then that's what i mean |
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nengard |
i meant the admin page |
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nengard |
thought the pref was still there too |
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jcamins |
If it's still showing up, that was a merge error. |
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nengard |
that page isn't documented either |
| 16:27 |
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nengard |
but I do have 2 prefs: DidYouMeanFromAuthorities |
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nengard |
IncludeSeeFromInSearches |
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nengard |
under Searching |
| 16:28 |
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nengard |
on master as of this morning |
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jcamins |
IncludeSeeFromInSearches is something else entirely, but DidYouMeanFromAuthorities shouldn't be there anymore. |
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jcamins |
I'll write a patch to remove it. |
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nengard |
jcamins the two prefs are listed in one line on my install |
| 16:29 |
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nengard |
that's why i showed them both |
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jcamins |
Yeah, sounds like a merge error. |
| 16:32 |
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jcamins |
Definitely merge error. |
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jcamins |
I'm glad you pointed that out. |
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jcamins |
I'm loving the new git-bz. |
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jcamins |
paul_p: I will be travelling on Wednesday. |
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paul_p |
jcamins and ? |
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jcamins |
paul_p: so any bugs you want prioritized for 3.10 should be vigorously plugged today so that they're dealt with tomorrow. |
| 16:42 |
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paul_p |
jcamins well, today is almost done for me ;-) but my tomorrow morning i'll check ! |
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nengard |
jcamins so i still need a paragraph or a guide or something to document the new admin page |
| 16:43 |
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jcamins |
nengard: yes, I know. However, I can't do anything that takes more than five minutes at the moment. |
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nengard |
that's fine - a short short something would get me started - i just don't quite get it or i'd do it all by myself |
| 16:44 |
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jcamins |
I can e-mail you bullet points. |
| 16:44 |
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nengard |
just don't want the release to go out without at least a section -- yes that would be great!!! |
| 16:48 |
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jcamins |
Sent. |
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nengard |
you rock |
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nengard |
have a great holiday |
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jcamins |
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of Harold Lloyd? Apparently he was a staggeringly popular actor in the... 20s. |
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oleonard |
Yup |
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oleonard |
You hadn't? |
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jcamins |
No. |
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oleonard |
He's the fella hanging off the clock face |
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jcamins |
Huh. Cool. |
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oleonard |
http://www.fandor.com/blog/wp-[…]n-safety-last.jpg |
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jcamins |
I should see if I can find anything he was in. |
| 16:57 |
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jcamins |
The Soviets adored him. |
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paul_p |
jcamins = yes, I know harold Lloyd |
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jcamins |
paul_p++ # awesome release notes! |
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paul_p |
jcamins thx |
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paul_p |
jcamins = I hope you'll use this framework for the 3.12 ;-) (it's get_bugs.pl --html -u bzlogin -p bzpassword > edit description-3.10.0.csv > get_bugs > edit description.csv > get_bugs >... > copy-paste to LibreOffice the ENH section, and improve formatting) |
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* jcamins |
plans to. |
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cait |
hiya |
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* cait |
had train the trainer training all day long |
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oleonard |
paul_p: You might have some ideas for bug title guidelines after all that work? |
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paul_p |
oleonard not only bug title (and, in fact, not bug title first. The description is what I worked the most on. from far !) |
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paul_p |
bugzilla description can't be edited, sometimes I took the full description from bugzilla description, sometimes from another comment, sometimes from the patch itself. There was no general rule, and that's why I took 1.5 day just for that !!! |
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Kabii |
jcamins, hey |
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moodaepo |
In 3.6 is editing print.css the best way to change font weight/size for slip/quick slip printouts on checkouts? |
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cait |
moodaepo: yes, I think, in later version you can edit them via the notices module - 3.6 is pretty old now, maybe consider an update |
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moodaepo |
cait: Thanks! |
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moodaepo |
cait: Yup we need to plan an upgrade sometime. Just to clarify I see in 3.8 there is a "HTML message" option for a notice under section "Notices & Slips" I'm guessing we enable that and modify CSS/HTML tags. |
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cait |
i think so |
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jcamins |
But wait, I think there's a problem in 3.8 with HTML slips? |
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moodaepo |
jcamins: This instance is on 3.6 so any problems with HTML slips are absent :) |
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cait |
jcamins: haven't heard about it :( |
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jcamins |
moodaepo: right, but cait suggested upgrading. |
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moodaepo |
jcamins++ |
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cait |
jcamins: are you referring to what i told you about missing sample data? |
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jcamins |
cait: no, there's a bug that I was trying to get you to sign off on. |
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jcamins |
Bug 8378 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
that's nothing to do with html |
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cait |
or slips |
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jcamins |
Oh, okay. :) |
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rangi |
Morning |
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wahanui |
somebody said Morning was a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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chris_n |
g'morning rangi |
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sets the cat out some food |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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chris_n |
the real problem is the chickens keep chasing the cat off and eating its food |
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cait |
hi chris_n |
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cait |
:) |
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chris_n |
heya cait |
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Kabii |
hey |
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Kabii |
im stuck on the apache it works page |
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jcamins |
Kabii: I'd suggest disabling it: sudo a2dissite default && sudo apache2ctl restart |
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jcamins |
I'd also speculate that the problem is misconfigured DNS. |
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Kabii |
that command is not ont he wikik |
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jcamins |
It's not related to Koha. |
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jcamins |
The wiki does not replace system administration knowledge. |
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magnuse |
wow, awesome release notes |
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magnuse |
paul_p++ |
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magnuse |
the real problem? |
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wahanui |
the real problem is that I can't get search for an ISBN to show up. |
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rangi |
yep those relese notes rule |
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magnuse |
how could anyone not be impressed by that :-) |
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cait |
and with maori :) |
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cait |
and a little french :) |
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cait |
paul_p++ |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard++ - thanks for that patch |
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oleonard |
Sure thing wizzyrea |
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jcamins |
Excellent. The Finnish National Library's website is down. |
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wizzyrea |
erm |
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wizzyrea |
uh oh? |
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magnuse |
ohnoes! |
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jcamins |
Let's hope no one in Finland has any desire to do research! |
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oleonard |
I'm sure that one comes up often at http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
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rambutan |
http://www.nationallibrary.fi/ <-works for me |
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jcamins |
Hm. Looks like they changed domains in the last month. |
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jcamins |
It used to be www.lib.helsinki.fi. |
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jcamins |
And by "used to be" I mean "I accessed it at www.lib.helsinki.fi two weeks ago and there was no message about a change." |
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rambutan |
you'd think they would have a redirect... |
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jcamins |
rambutan: you would, wouldn't you? |
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oleonard |
It's a small country. They just shouted it out the window. |
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jcamins |
lol |
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nengard |
@later tell paul_p you might want to get bug 9107 pushed to 3.10 |
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huginn |
nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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jcamins |
bug 9107 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9107 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , DidYouMeanFromAuthorities syspref obsolete |
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jcamins |
Oh, yeah, the one I wrote. |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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nengard |
:) didn't want 3.10 going out with a new pref that isn't really a new pref :) |
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Kabii |
i set the admin port in the dns config file |
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Kabii |
\but its not working |
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jcamins |
Kabii: you can't set ports in DNS. |
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jcamins |
Kabii: when we were setting this up originally, didn't we decide to set the staff client up on library-intra.domain.com? |
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Kabii |
no we never talked about that |
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Kabii |
im with kids hold up |
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oleonard |
See you tomorrow #koha |
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jcamins |
Kabii: oh, I got you mixed up with the other person who was just trying to set up Koha on Fedora. |
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eythian |
jcamins: I'm usually reluctant to suggest disabling the default apache config because doing that can conceal issues. |
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jcamins |
eythian: I'm not troubleshooting people's Apache configurations unless they're paying me a great deal more than I get paid for hanging around #koha. I figure "disable your default site and look into the underlying problem with your DNS" is better than "sorry, I'm not your sysadmin." |
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jcamins |
Also, you have to disable the default site if you're only accessing Koha via IP. |
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eythian |
yeah, fair enough. |
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eythian |
that's true, I also don't recommend that except for testing environments :) |
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seneca |
Hello all - quick question: I have a zebra rebuild issue, I think. Symptom is that search results aren't reflecting the actual current status of an item. For example, things that are unavailable are being shown as available and new cover art isn't being displayed. |
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seneca |
Once you click through to the actual item's page, it displays the updated info |
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jcamins |
seneca: definitely sounds like an out of sync Zebra index for the first. |
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seneca |
My cron is set to run "test -x /usr/bin/koha-rebuilt-zebra && koha-rebuild zebra $(koha-list --enabled)" every 5 mins |
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jcamins |
If you are using packages, use `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full instancename` |
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jcamins |
Uhh, I presume that's a typo just now? |
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seneca |
So my cronjob is missing the --full ? |
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seneca |
yeah, rebuild, not rebuilt :) |
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jcamins |
No, your cronjob is correct. |
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jcamins |
But sometimes indexes get out of sync. |
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jcamins |
By doing a full reindex, you'll get it back in sync. |
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seneca |
ah |
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seneca |
ok, thank you |
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Kabii |
jcamins, im not setting it up via ip |
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Kabii |
im have a domain name to it |
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seneca |
that particular cron line was added by the debian package, so I was a bit hesitant to say there was something wrong with it. :) |
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jcamins |
seneca: no, there's nothing wrong with the cron line. |
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seneca |
you guys are the best - thanks again! |
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wizzyrea |
it just happens sometimes that indexes get out of whack |
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jcamins |
Once the indexes are out of sync, they never get back in sync. |
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jcamins |
Kabii: in that case, you probably need to adjust your DNS and/or the ServerName directives in your virtual hosts. |
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seneca |
understood. I just ran the --full version and will ask the librarian to let me know if things are accurate now and the index is staying in sync. |
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Kabii |
where would that be in the apache 2 config |
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seneca |
By themselves you mean, jcamins? |
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wizzyrea |
right, by themselve |
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wizzyrea |
selves* |
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jcamins |
seneca: right. |
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wizzyrea |
you have to do a full reindex to resync them |
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seneca |
cool |
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wizzyrea |
but it should be happy after that |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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jcamins |
Kabii: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha [or whatever you called your instance] |
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eythian |
seneca: it's not too common, but sometimes some things can cause it. |
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wizzyrea |
super heavy server load is one that I've observed causing it |
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wizzyrea |
or a crash |
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seneca |
well, we did a massive manual clean up of the mysql db a couple of weeks ago. Ran "/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v" after it to catch zebra up |
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seneca |
and I think it still may have been out of whack from then |
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wizzyrea |
oh I wonder if you at some point had two rebuild zebras going at the same time |
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jcamins |
Uh-oh. |
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seneca |
hmm.. could be |
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jcamins |
You ran rebuild_zebra.pl manually? |
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seneca |
yeah... I'm taking it that's not the correct thing to do? |
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wizzyrea |
well if you are going to do that |
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jcamins |
Nooooo. |
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wizzyrea |
turn off the cron. |
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seneca |
Pretty sure I got that command from someone on here. |
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jcamins |
Not with packages. |
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seneca |
ah |
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seneca |
that makes sense |
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jcamins |
the koha-rebuild-zebra --full library command is the equivalent for packages. |
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seneca |
ok |
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jcamins |
You may have permissions issues. |
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seneca |
so, should I be ok now after running the "--full" version of that command? |
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seneca |
koha-rebuild-zebra, that is |
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jcamins |
If the permissions weren't screwed up. If they were, that command may have been a no-op. |
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seneca |
I saw no errors... |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure if koha-rebuild-zebra reports any errors in the event of a permissions issue. |
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jcamins |
eythian: any idea? |
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eythian |
I think it tends to. Though I haven't seen them myself, I don't get permissions issues :) |
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seneca |
heheh |
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jcamins |
eythian: nor do I. |
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eythian |
best thing to do is see if it fixed your issues, if it has, great :) |
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jcamins |
But rebuild_zebra.pl doesn't report permissions issues, so I wasn't sure if koha-rebuild-zebra would. |
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seneca |
well ok then |
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jcamins |
^^ best plan |
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seneca |
What kind of permission errors? File, db, or what? |
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jcamins |
seneca: file permissions. You can end up with the indexes owned by the wrong user. |
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seneca |
ah |
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seneca |
What files, in case I need to fix them. |
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jcamins |
Ummm... /var/lib/koha/instance/* |
| 21:31 |
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jcamins |
The ownership should be koha-instance:koha-instance, I think. |
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seneca |
looks good, except for "email.enabled" is owned by root |
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seneca |
root:root |
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seneca |
but that's world readable and an empty file... |
| 21:32 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that one's okay. |
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seneca |
OK then. I hope the full reindex fixed everything then |
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seneca |
Thanks for the guidance |
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wizzyrea |
^^ this one is quite good |
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jcamins |
I just read nengard's post on proprietary vendors. |
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jcamins |
Sounds like the sort of thing that might be done by a certain company that shall remain nameless. |
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wizzyrea |
maybe the vendor-who-shall-remain-nameless actually *is* doing that |
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* jcamins |
thinks it seems likely. |
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cjh |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
ew! |
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jcamins |
lol |
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rambutan |
P...P...is...ew...Pisew? |
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wizzyrea |
oh that made me laugh. |
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jcamins |
eythian: you haven't e-mailed the package signing key yet, have you? |
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eythian |
jcamins: nope. also doing a migration which is keeping me busy enough. |
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eythian |
just wanted to get that part sorted while I thought of it. |
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jcamins |
Good, 'cause I didn't receive it. :P |
| 21:40 |
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eythian |
ah, in that case I'll not send it again. |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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* jcamins |
winces. |
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jcamins |
ohloh things that the number of comments in Koha is "very low." |
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eythian |
WinCE is pretty terrible, yeah |
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rangi |
it's true |
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eythian |
I can believe that |
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jcamins |
*thinks |
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rangi |
its nor bad in the code |
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rangi |
its the SQL |
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rangi |
according to ohloh most of our code is SQL and not commented SQL |
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jcamins |
How is 63% of our code SQL? |
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rangi |
all the .sql files |
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eythian |
I actually consider it low in the code, too. Maybe I'm just a commenting bigot. |
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jcamins |
I guess the stupid frameworks? |
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rangi |
its low in the code, its not very low |
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jcamins |
A fine distinction, that. |
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rangi |
its very low in the sql .. but i dont actually care about that :) |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
our pod coverage is actually pretty code |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
good |
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eythian |
$ find -name *.sql -print0 | xargs -0 wc -l |
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eythian |
1077567 totaal |
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eythian |
that's a lot of SQL |
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rangi |
it counts the sql in the files too |
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rangi |
in the .pl |
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rangi |
the ohcount stuff doesnt look at the extensions |
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* jcamins |
would love to get rid of the frameworks. |
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rangi |
it looks in the files |
| 21:45 |
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jcamins |
Horrid, horrid, horrid. |
| 21:46 |
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rangi |
(you can clone the ohcount project and play) |
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francharb |
see ya #koha |
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magnuse |
jcamins: let's get rid of marc while we're at it! :-) |
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* magnuse |
wanders off |
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jcamins |
magnuse: that'd be nice too, but it least is serves a function with legacy data. |
| 21:49 |
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jcamins |
The way we do frameworks does not. |
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eythian |
wahanui: be magnuse is <reply>let's get rid of marc while we're at it! |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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jcamins |
be jcamins |
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wahanui |
Have some fudge. |
| 21:50 |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
be eythian |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 21:51 |
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jcamins |
be wizzyrea |
| 21:51 |
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jcamins |
be cait |
| 21:51 |
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jcamins |
be kf |
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jcamins |
be rangi |
| 21:52 |
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jcamins |
What, are magnuse and I the only ones who have catchphrases? |
| 21:52 |
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eythian |
seems like it. |
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wizzyrea |
huh. |
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wizzyrea |
be rangi is <reply>Send a patch! |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
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wizzyrea |
be rangi |
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wahanui |
Send a patch! |
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rambutan |
I'm looking forward to Marshall's stats for 2012. |
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jcamins |
They're released for Midwinter? |
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jcamins |
Which, BTW, I could swear only just happened. |
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rambutan |
donno |
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rambutan |
InternetLibrarian just happened |
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rambutan |
and he did present there (w/ Nicole), but I honestly didn |
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rambutan |
't catch the details |
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mtj |
^^ wow, nicoles tweet/story above is bizarre |
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bag |
heya mtj |
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bag |
it's truth at least what we heard |
| 22:46 |
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* jcamins |
believes it. |
| 22:46 |
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jcamins |
Is there a question in that e-mail? |
| 22:46 |
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jcamins |
Or even a request for anything in particular? |
| 22:46 |
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jcamins |
Granted I'm tired, but I can't make heads nor tails of it. |
| 22:47 |
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mtj |
pass… :) |
| 22:49 |
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mtj |
afaict, its a feature request, asked as a subtle question |
| 22:50 |
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mtj |
… and hi #koha |
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mtj |
bbiab |
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jcamins |
mtj: I can't even figure out what the desired feature is. |
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jcamins |
She wants... something... sorted alphabetically. |
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* jcamins |
leaves the pondering of this as an exercise for others, and heads home. |
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mtj |
something = "all areas" |
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mtj |
2 features?, a search tweak - and sorting of bib results |
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eythian |
It's a reply to the facets stuff without actually being a reply. |
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eythian |
Probably from someone on digets. |
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eythian |
*digest |
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mtj |
yeah, i think youre probably correct |
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rambutan |
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