IRC log for #koha, 2012-11-19

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00:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #67: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/67/
00:25 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8953 - opac-userupdate encoding issues
00:25 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: But 8787: don't load the page if OpacMaintenance is ON
00:25 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8910 - silent warnings triggered in
00:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8953 critical, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, RESOLVED FIXED, opac-userupdate encoding issues
00:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8910 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, RESOLVED FIXED, silent warnings triggered in
00:36 wizzyrea squee!
00:36 wizzyrea and stay fixed!
00:36 * wizzyrea does a little dance
00:43 mtj eythian, did your koha-shell script get pushed?
00:43 eythian mtj: not sure off the top of my head
00:44 mtj ahh needs signoff bug 8878
00:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , koha-shell: a command to make using koha commands easier
01:19 eythian wahanui: germs is also
01:19 wahanui okay, eythian.
01:19 eythian wahanui: germs
01:19 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
01:19 eythian wahanui: germs
01:19 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
01:19 eythian wahanui: germs
01:19 wahanui rumour has it germs is
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02:01 jcamins bug 8665
02:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
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03:48 eythian wahanui: code smell is
03:48 wahanui OK, eythian.
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05:22 Oak Ahoy me hearties!
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07:30 * magnuse waves
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07:40 reiveune hello
07:40 magnuse bonjour reiveune
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07:46 alex_a bonjour
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07:51 julian_m hello
07:51 wahanui salut, julian_m
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07:59 asaurat hi
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08:04 lds hzllo
08:04 lds sorry, hello
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08:11 gaetan_B hello
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08:58 magnuse @later tell wizzyrea: if 8941 applies cleanly it would be nice to have in 3.6.x, but don't put too much effort into it
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09:49 magnuse @arewethereyet
09:49 huginn magnuse: Not yet - wait 3 days
09:49 magnuse oh, paul_p around?
09:49 paul_p magnuse around bodo ? nope ;-)
09:49 paul_p @wunder bodo
09:50 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (10:20 AM CET on November 19, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady).
09:50 magnuse hehe
09:50 paul_p @wunder marseille
09:50 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (10:30 AM CET on November 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
09:50 magnuse yeah yeah, rub it in :-)
09:50 paul_p I stay in Marseille :D :D
09:50 magnuse talking of which: are the days for the hackfest settled?
09:50 * paul_p still working on release notes...
09:50 paul_p magnuse I think so, because brendan already bought 2 tickets for him and Eliott ;-)
09:51 paul_p so let it be march 18th - 22th
09:51 magnuse yay
09:51 magnuse if we can get someone to watch the dogs i'll bring the whole family
09:51 magnuse and stay an extra week - easter!
09:52 paul_p really good idea !
09:53 magnuse :-)
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11:17 nafeesapatel Hi, in the past week or so I have translated some coding to english format and none of my submissions have been reviewed. Have you any idea how long this process will take?
11:52 jcamins_away nafeesapatel: if you mean you submitted patches to Koha, it depends on a lot of factors.
11:53 jcamins How hard they are to test is the most important one.
11:53 jcamins Which bugs did you submit patches for?
11:55 jcamins If you mean on, you might want to send an e-mail to the koha-translate list.
11:59 nafeesapatel yeah i did translate on the koha community...urrm, will you be able to give the me the email for koha-tranlsate?
11:59 jcamins mailing lists?
11:59 wahanui mailing lists are at[…]ha-mailing-lists/
11:59 jcamins ^^ if you are doing translating, you should subscribe to the koha-translate mailing list.
12:03 nafeesapatel yeah i've done that, it's just that I am translating as part of my assignment for university and it's been 2 weeks and I can't do any work until someone accepts my reviews
12:04 nafeesapatel thanks for the help though :)
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12:10 jcamins You should definitely e-mail koha-translate, then.
12:10 jcamins I just took a look, and it looks like you translated for UK English, and I'm not sure that's maintained at all.
12:12 jcamins (so I don't know who needs to approve them)
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12:15 nafeesapatel mhmm well I have emailed them and I see how it goes from this website active?
12:15 tcohen morning #koha!
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12:23 jcamins What website?
12:23 wahanui website is
12:23 jcamins wahanui: thanks, but I was asking nafeesapatel.
12:23 wahanui jcamins: sure thing
12:23 jcamins (wahanui is a bot)
12:23 jcamins (wahanui?
12:23 wahanui (wahanui is a bot, and he sometimes remembers silly things)
12:23 jcamins (jcamins?
12:24 jcamins An amusing bot.
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12:26 nafeesapatel This koha website because it seems like it's not that's probably why I have not been given any feedback
12:27 jcamins I don't know what you mean by "active."
12:27 nafeesapatel meaning, it's not updated daily etc
12:27 jcamins is very active, but is a static website.
12:27 nafeesapatel ok
12:28 jcamins There wouldn't be anything that needed updating daily even if someone were interested in volunteering hours of their time every day writing content for
12:31 jcamins @later tell drojf The solution to everything is to replace Koha with Google!
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12:34 reiveune bye
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12:44 magnuse gah! why on earth would my records display "norwegian wovels" as garbage in search results but look normal in detail view?
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12:51 magnuse it's the same in the opac and the intranet. using xslt everywhere
12:53 paul_p magnuse = can it be because search results comes from zebra while detail comes from mySQL ?
12:54 magnuse yeah, that sounds like it might do it
12:54 jcamins magnuse: possibly the records are in MARC-8 and getting mangled by Zebra?
12:55 magnuse ummm... i forgot to reindex after the last import...
12:55 jcamins That might also have something to do with it.
12:56 * magnuse blushes
12:58 magnuse yup, problem solved
12:58 magnuse thanks paul_p and jcamins
13:00 * magnuse takes the dogs for a walk
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13:15 oleonard Hideley-ho, Koharinos.
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13:29 wajasu i've mentioned deleting all my auth_header  (authorites) and running misc/ with auto_generate authorities on.
13:29 wajasu it seems there are lots of dups.
13:30 wajasu i think it might be because as each bib is selected and the authority is searched for in the zebra index, non are found.
13:31 wajasu or at least only two get linked to the same auth record
13:32 wajasu so its probably fine when you catalog, wait unitl zebra reindexes, and catalog again, but not for a batch routine.
13:32 wajasu i'll have to look into this tonight.
13:37 jcamins wajasu: yes, that's correct. The only solution would be to generate authorities one at a time.
13:37 jcamins really was intended for just what the name says... linking.
13:39 jcamins Ooh, I'm a "developer guy."
13:39 wajasu ha ha
13:41 * wajasu off to work
13:44 oleonard Also, open source means nobody gets paid ever?
13:44 jcamins oleonard: no, people get paid.
13:44 jcamins Just not us.
13:44 * oleonard can confirm that
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13:50 libsysguy ^^ hehe
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13:56 oleonard brb
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14:41 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software The next general meeting is 5 December 2012 18:00 UTC
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14:49 oleonard Hi maximep
14:51 maximep good morning =)
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15:31 nengard @later tell jcamins  i know i asked you about the DidYouMeanFromAuthorities preference for the manual, but i can't find it in the irc logs - can you email me a short explanation of how it works? It's the only new feature not in the 3.10 manual yet
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15:37 * chris_n hates it when the wiki lies
15:37 chris_n oh... and g'morning
15:38 paul_p phew... 43 pages of enhancements descriptions (LibreOffice document, with screenshots) ... I want this release to be as appealing as possible...
15:39 paul_p the nightmare being that, now, I'll have to translate all this into french for BibLibre customers...
15:40 oleonard chris_n: The wiki lies?
15:41 chris_n oleonard: on the git-bz page: "If you have more patches/commits you can use e.g. HEAD~2, HEAD~commitid etc to specify the range of commits you want to include." is patently false
15:42 chris_n git-bz does not know how to handle a range of commits
15:42 libsysguy I thought you had to include the interactive tag
15:42 libsysguy to make that work
15:42 chris_n at least not the flavor I received from the
15:42 libsysguy which I think it says in the description
15:42 * libsysguy could be wrong
15:42 chris_n no word of that on the wiki
15:42 chris_n -e, yes
15:43 chris_n but it still only handles one at a time; at least in my case 8-P
15:43 paul_p chris_n = I thought that, but have found how to make it work
15:43 paul_p chris_n HEAD~2..HEAD should work
15:44 * chris_n tries
15:49 chris_n well its probably a stinking mess, but they're all signed-off (for the second time) and attached
15:50 * chris_n is not sure they will apply in the order attached, however
15:50 chris_n paul_p: tnx; bug 7167 is now signed off for the second time
15:50 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements
15:52 chris_n jcamins ^^
15:52 chris_n QA team ^^
15:52 chris_n :)
15:53 chris_n doesn't bz have a drag-n-drop reorder feature for attachments?
16:00 jcamins_away chris_n: nope. :(
16:03 oleonard Bug 9106 causes data loss, so it would be great if someone could give my patch a try.
16:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information
16:05 maximep wow, the 3.10 release notes document is amazing! It really shows how much great work was done
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16:08 jcamins maximep: and yet the first response to the announcement is from someone who refuses to listen to instructions demanding that we volunteer our time for his problem.
16:08 oleonard In big letters, too.
16:09 maximep huh, missed that
16:26 jcamins nengard: DidYouMeanFromAuthorities was removed. It was replaced by the Did You Mean configuration page.
16:26 jcamins nengard: that's why you didn't have documentation on it.
16:26 nengard okay, then that's what i mean
16:27 nengard i meant the admin page
16:27 nengard thought the pref was still there too
16:27 jcamins If it's still showing up, that was a merge error.
16:27 nengard that page isn't documented either
16:27 nengard but I do have 2 prefs:   DidYouMeanFromAuthorities
16:27 nengard IncludeSeeFromInSearches
16:28 nengard under Searching
16:28 nengard on master as of this morning
16:28 jcamins IncludeSeeFromInSearches is something else entirely, but DidYouMeanFromAuthorities shouldn't be there anymore.
16:28 jcamins I'll write a patch to remove it.
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16:29 nengard jcamins the two prefs are listed in one line on my install
16:29 nengard that's why i showed them both
16:31 jcamins Yeah, sounds like a merge error.
16:32 jcamins Definitely merge error.
16:34 jcamins I'm glad you pointed that out.
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16:39 jcamins I'm loving the new git-bz.
16:41 jcamins paul_p: I will be travelling on Wednesday.
16:41 paul_p jcamins and ?
16:41 jcamins paul_p: so any bugs you want prioritized for 3.10 should be vigorously plugged today so that they're dealt with tomorrow.
16:42 paul_p jcamins well, today is almost done for me ;-) but my tomorrow morning i'll check !
16:42 nengard jcamins so i still need a paragraph or a guide or something to document the new admin page
16:43 jcamins nengard: yes, I know. However, I can't do anything that takes more than five minutes at the moment.
16:43 nengard that's fine - a short short something would get me started - i just don't quite get it or i'd do it all by myself
16:44 jcamins I can e-mail you bullet points.
16:44 nengard just don't want the release to go out without at least a section -- yes that would be great!!!
16:48 jcamins Sent.
16:51 nengard you rock
16:51 nengard have a great holiday
16:54 jcamins Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of Harold Lloyd? Apparently he was a staggeringly popular actor in the... 20s.
16:55 oleonard Yup
16:55 oleonard You hadn't?
16:55 jcamins No.
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16:56 oleonard He's the fella hanging off the clock face
16:56 jcamins Huh. Cool.
16:56 oleonard[…]n-safety-last.jpg
16:56 jcamins I should see if I can find anything he was in.
16:57 jcamins The Soviets adored him.
16:58 paul_p jcamins = yes, I know harold Lloyd
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17:24 jcamins paul_p++ # awesome release notes!
17:24 paul_p jcamins thx
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17:26 paul_p jcamins = I hope you'll use this framework for the 3.12 ;-) (it's --html -u bzlogin -p bzpassword > edit description-3.10.0.csv > get_bugs > edit description.csv > get_bugs >... > copy-paste to LibreOffice the ENH section, and improve formatting)
17:27 * jcamins plans to.
17:27 cait hiya
17:28 * cait had train the trainer training all day long
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17:29 oleonard paul_p: You might have some ideas for bug title guidelines after all that work?
17:29 paul_p oleonard not only bug title (and, in fact, not bug title first. The description is what I worked the most on. from far !)
17:30 paul_p bugzilla description can't be edited, sometimes I took the full description from bugzilla description, sometimes from another comment, sometimes from the patch itself. There was no general rule, and that's why I took 1.5 day just for that !!!
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17:38 Kabii jcamins, hey
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17:48 moodaepo In 3.6 is editing print.css the best way to change font weight/size for slip/quick slip printouts on checkouts?
18:12 cait moodaepo: yes, I think, in later version you can edit them via the notices module - 3.6 is pretty old now, maybe consider an update
18:12 moodaepo cait: Thanks!
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18:17 moodaepo cait: Yup we need to plan an upgrade sometime. Just to clarify I see in 3.8 there is a "HTML message" option for a notice under section "Notices & Slips" I'm guessing we enable that and modify CSS/HTML tags.
18:17 cait i think so
18:18 jcamins But wait, I think there's a problem in 3.8 with HTML slips?
18:20 moodaepo jcamins: This instance is on 3.6 so any problems with HTML slips are absent :)
18:20 cait jcamins: haven't heard about it :(
18:21 jcamins moodaepo: right, but cait suggested upgrading.
18:21 moodaepo jcamins++
18:21 cait jcamins: are you referring to what i told you about missing sample data?
18:22 jcamins cait: no, there's a bug that I was trying to get you to sign off on.
18:22 jcamins Bug 8378
18:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
18:23 cait ah
18:23 cait that's nothing to do with html
18:23 cait or slips
18:23 jcamins Oh, okay. :)
18:31 rangi Morning
18:31 wahanui somebody said Morning was a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:34 chris_n g'morning rangi
18:34 * chris_n sets the cat out some food
18:35 cait morning rangi
18:35 chris_n the real problem is the chickens keep chasing the cat off and eating its food
18:35 cait hi chris_n
18:35 cait :)
18:35 chris_n heya cait
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18:59 Kabii hey
18:59 Kabii im stuck on the apache it works page
18:59 jcamins Kabii: I'd suggest disabling it: sudo a2dissite default && sudo apache2ctl restart
19:00 jcamins I'd also speculate that the problem is misconfigured DNS.
19:00 Kabii that command is not ont he wikik
19:01 jcamins It's not related to Koha.
19:01 jcamins The wiki does not replace system administration knowledge.
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19:25 magnuse wow, awesome release notes
19:25 magnuse paul_p++
19:25 magnuse the real problem?
19:25 wahanui the real problem is that I can't get search for an ISBN to show up.
19:27 rangi yep those relese notes rule
19:28 magnuse how could anyone not be impressed by that :-)
19:35 cait and with maori :)
19:35 cait and a little french :)
19:36 cait paul_p++
19:45 wizzyrea oleonard++ - thanks for that patch
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19:55 oleonard Sure thing wizzyrea
20:19 jcamins Excellent. The Finnish National Library's website is down.
20:19 wizzyrea erm
20:19 wizzyrea uh oh?
20:19 magnuse ohnoes!
20:20 jcamins Let's hope no one in Finland has any desire to do research!
20:20 oleonard I'm sure that one comes up often at
20:20 rambutan    <-works for me
20:21 jcamins Hm. Looks like they changed domains in the last month.
20:21 jcamins It used to be
20:22 jcamins And by "used to be" I mean "I accessed it at two weeks ago and there was no message about a change."
20:24 rambutan you'd think they would have a redirect...
20:25 jcamins rambutan: you would, wouldn't you?
20:28 oleonard It's a small country. They just shouted it out the window.
20:29 jcamins lol
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20:34 nengard @later tell paul_p you might want to get bug 9107 pushed to 3.10
20:34 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded.
20:34 jcamins bug 9107
20:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9107 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , DidYouMeanFromAuthorities syspref obsolete
20:34 jcamins Oh, yeah, the one I wrote.
20:34 jcamins Hehe.
20:43 nengard :) didn't want 3.10 going out with a new pref that isn't really a new pref :)
20:49 Kabii i set the admin port in the dns config file
20:49 Kabii \but its not working
20:49 jcamins Kabii: you can't set ports in DNS.
20:50 jcamins Kabii: when we were setting this up originally, didn't we decide to set the staff client up on
21:00 Kabii no we never talked about that
21:01 Kabii im with kids hold up
21:05 oleonard See you tomorrow #koha
21:06 jcamins Kabii: oh, I got you mixed up with the other person who was just trying to set up Koha on Fedora.
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21:12 eythian jcamins: I'm usually reluctant to suggest disabling the default apache config because doing that can conceal issues.
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21:14 jcamins eythian: I'm not troubleshooting people's Apache configurations unless they're paying me a great deal more than I get paid for hanging around #koha. I figure "disable your default site and look into the underlying problem with your DNS" is better than "sorry, I'm not your sysadmin."
21:14 jcamins Also, you have to disable the default site if you're only accessing Koha via IP.
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21:14 eythian yeah, fair enough.
21:14 eythian that's true, I also don't recommend that except for testing environments :)
21:16 seneca Hello all - quick question: I have a zebra rebuild issue, I think. Symptom is that search results aren't reflecting the actual current status of an item. For example, things that are unavailable are being shown as available and new cover art isn't being displayed.
21:16 seneca Once you click through to the actual item's page, it displays the updated info
21:17 jcamins seneca: definitely sounds like an out of sync Zebra index for the first.
21:17 seneca My cron is set to run "test -x /usr/bin/koha-rebuilt-zebra && koha-rebuild zebra $(koha-list --enabled)" every 5 mins
21:18 jcamins If you are using packages, use `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full instancename`
21:18 jcamins Uhh, I presume that's a typo just now?
21:18 seneca So my cronjob is missing the --full ?
21:18 seneca yeah, rebuild, not rebuilt :)
21:18 jcamins No, your cronjob is correct.
21:18 jcamins But sometimes indexes get out of sync.
21:19 jcamins By doing a full reindex, you'll get it back in sync.
21:19 seneca ah
21:19 seneca ok, thank you
21:19 Kabii jcamins, im not setting it up via ip
21:20 Kabii im have a domain name to it
21:20 seneca that particular cron line was added by the debian package, so I was a bit hesitant to say there was something wrong with it. :)
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21:20 jcamins seneca: no, there's nothing wrong with the cron line.
21:20 seneca you guys are the best - thanks again!
21:20 wizzyrea it just happens sometimes that indexes get out of whack
21:21 jcamins Once the indexes are out of sync, they never get back in sync.
21:21 jcamins Kabii: in that case, you probably need to adjust your DNS and/or the ServerName directives in your virtual hosts.
21:21 seneca understood. I just ran the --full version and will ask the librarian to let me know if things are accurate now and the index is staying in sync.
21:21 Kabii where would that be in the apache 2 config
21:22 seneca By themselves you mean, jcamins?
21:22 wizzyrea right, by themselve
21:22 wizzyrea selves*
21:22 jcamins seneca: right.
21:22 wizzyrea you have to do a full reindex to resync them
21:22 seneca cool
21:22 wizzyrea but it should be happy after that
21:22 wizzyrea !
21:22 wizzyrea :)
21:22 jcamins Kabii: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha [or whatever you called your instance]
21:22 eythian seneca: it's not too common, but sometimes some things can cause it.
21:23 wizzyrea super heavy server load is one that I've observed causing it
21:23 wizzyrea or a crash
21:24 seneca well, we did a massive manual clean up of the mysql db a couple of weeks ago. Ran "/usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/ -b -a -r -v" after it to catch zebra up
21:24 seneca and I think it still may have been out of whack from then
21:24 wizzyrea oh I wonder if you at some point had two rebuild zebras going at the same time
21:25 jcamins Uh-oh.
21:25 seneca hmm.. could be
21:25 jcamins You ran manually?
21:25 seneca yeah... I'm taking it that's not the correct thing to do?
21:25 wizzyrea well if you are going to do that
21:25 jcamins Nooooo.
21:25 wizzyrea turn off the cron.
21:25 seneca Pretty sure I got that command from someone on here.
21:25 jcamins Not with packages.
21:25 seneca ah
21:26 seneca that makes sense
21:26 jcamins the koha-rebuild-zebra --full library command is the equivalent for packages.
21:26 seneca ok
21:26 jcamins You may have permissions issues.
21:26 seneca so, should I be ok now after running the "--full" version of that command?
21:27 seneca koha-rebuild-zebra, that is
21:27 jcamins If the permissions weren't screwed up. If they were, that command may have been a no-op.
21:27 seneca I saw no errors...
21:27 jcamins I'm not sure if koha-rebuild-zebra reports any errors in the event of a permissions issue.
21:27 jcamins eythian: any idea?
21:28 eythian I think it tends to. Though I haven't seen them myself, I don't get permissions issues :)
21:28 seneca heheh
21:28 jcamins eythian: nor do I.
21:28 eythian best thing to do is see if it fixed your issues, if it has, great :)
21:28 jcamins But doesn't report permissions issues, so I wasn't sure if koha-rebuild-zebra would.
21:28 seneca well ok then
21:29 jcamins ^^ best plan
21:29 seneca What kind of permission errors? File, db, or what?
21:29 jcamins seneca: file permissions. You can end up with the indexes owned by the wrong user.
21:30 seneca ah
21:30 seneca What files, in case I need to fix them.
21:30 jcamins Ummm... /var/lib/koha/instance/*
21:31 jcamins The ownership should be koha-instance:koha-instance, I think.
21:31 seneca looks good, except for "email.enabled" is owned by root
21:31 seneca root:root
21:32 seneca but that's world readable and an empty file...
21:32 jcamins Yeah, that one's okay.
21:33 seneca OK then. I hope the full reindex fixed everything then
21:33 seneca Thanks for the guidance
21:34 wizzyrea ^^ this one is quite good
21:34 jcamins I just read nengard's post on proprietary vendors.
21:35 jcamins Sounds like the sort of thing that might be done by a certain company that shall remain nameless.
21:35 wizzyrea maybe the vendor-who-shall-remain-nameless actually *is* doing that
21:36 * jcamins thinks it seems likely.
21:37 cjh wizzyrea++
21:38 wizzyrea ew!
21:38 jcamins lol
21:38 rambutan
21:39 wizzyrea oh that made me laugh.
21:39 jcamins eythian: you haven't e-mailed the package signing key yet, have you?
21:39 eythian jcamins: nope. also doing a migration which is keeping me busy enough.
21:40 eythian just wanted to get that part sorted while I thought of it.
21:40 jcamins Good, 'cause I didn't receive it. :P
21:40 eythian ah, in that case I'll not send it again.
21:41 jcamins Heh.
21:42 * jcamins winces.
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21:42 jcamins ohloh things that the number of comments in Koha is "very low."
21:42 eythian WinCE is pretty terrible, yeah
21:42 rangi it's true
21:43 eythian I can believe that
21:43 jcamins *thinks
21:43 rangi its nor bad in the code
21:43 rangi its the SQL
21:43 rangi according to ohloh most of our code is SQL and not commented SQL
21:43 jcamins How is 63% of our code SQL?
21:43 rangi all the .sql files
21:43 eythian I actually consider it low in the code, too. Maybe I'm just a commenting bigot.
21:43 jcamins I guess the stupid frameworks?
21:44 rangi its low in the code, its not very low
21:44 jcamins A fine distinction, that.
21:44 rangi its very low in the sql .. but i dont actually care about that :)
21:44 rangi our pod coverage is actually pretty code
21:44 rangi good
21:44 eythian $ find -name *.sql -print0 | xargs -0 wc -l
21:44 eythian 1077567 totaal
21:45 eythian that's a lot of SQL
21:45 rangi it counts the sql in the files too
21:45 rangi in the .pl
21:45 rangi the ohcount stuff doesnt look at the extensions
21:45 * jcamins would love to get rid of the frameworks.
21:45 rangi it looks in the files
21:45 jcamins Horrid, horrid, horrid.
21:46 rangi (you can clone the ohcount project and play)
21:46 francharb see ya #koha
21:47 magnuse jcamins: let's get rid of marc while we're at it! :-)
21:48 * magnuse wanders off
21:49 jcamins magnuse: that'd be nice too, but it least is serves a function with legacy data.
21:49 jcamins The way we do frameworks does not.
21:49 eythian wahanui: be magnuse is <reply>let's get rid of marc while we're at it!
21:49 wahanui OK, eythian.
21:50 jcamins be jcamins
21:50 wahanui Have some fudge.
21:50 jcamins lol
21:51 jcamins be eythian
21:51 jcamins Hm.
21:51 jcamins be wizzyrea
21:51 jcamins be cait
21:51 jcamins be kf
21:52 jcamins be rangi
21:52 jcamins What, are magnuse and I the only ones who have catchphrases?
21:52 eythian seems like it.
21:53 wizzyrea huh.
21:57 wizzyrea be rangi is <reply>Send a patch!
21:57 * wizzyrea giggles
21:57 wizzyrea be rangi
21:57 wahanui Send a patch!
22:00 rambutan I'm looking forward to Marshall's stats for 2012.
22:01 jcamins They're released for Midwinter?
22:01 jcamins Which, BTW, I could swear only just happened.
22:01 rambutan donno
22:01 rambutan InternetLibrarian just happened
22:02 rambutan and he did present there (w/ Nicole), but I honestly didn
22:02 rambutan 't catch the details
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22:42 mtj ^^ wow, nicoles tweet/story above is bizarre
22:46 bag heya mtj
22:46 bag it's truth at least what we heard
22:46 * jcamins believes it.
22:46 jcamins Is there a question in that e-mail?
22:46 jcamins Or even a request for anything in particular?
22:46 jcamins Granted I'm tired, but I can't make heads nor tails of it.
22:47 mtj pass… :)
22:49 mtj afaict, its a feature request, asked as a subtle question
22:50 mtj … and hi #koha
22:51 mtj bbiab
22:51 jcamins mtj: I can't even figure out what the desired feature is.
22:51 jcamins She wants... something... sorted alphabetically.
22:52 * jcamins leaves the pondering of this as an exercise for others, and heads home.
22:52 mtj something = "all areas"
22:53 mtj 2 features?, a search tweak - and sorting of bib results
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23:01 eythian It's a reply to the facets stuff without actually being a reply.
23:01 eythian Probably from someone on digets.
23:01 eythian *digest
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23:26 mtj yeah, i think youre probably correct
23:40 rambutan .
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