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* drojf |
could not resist ordering a raspberry pi with 512mb ram |
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rangi |
heh |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #180: "<magnuse> gmcharlt brought the bugs back, oh well..." (added by gmcharlt at 03:08 PM, January 12, 2012) |
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eythian |
is it weird that in aqbooksellers, listprice and invoiceprice both are keyed to the "currency" table, but the "currency" field itself isn't? |
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rangi |
yes |
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eythian |
the way vendor details are stored is wrong :( |
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eythian |
they include the ^M character, and if that's not there, they don't edit right. |
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eythian |
and in no circumstances do they display with correct linebreaks. |
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Shum |
Hi everyone |
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Shum |
is there anyone ? |
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Oak |
probably |
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* Oak |
waves |
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Shum |
lol |
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Shum |
I need some help in KOHA |
| 05:16 |
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Shum |
to understand it |
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Oak |
ask? |
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wahanui |
Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
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Shum |
I want to implment it and I am not getting how it works |
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Shum |
and how should I start with , What features I can implment |
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rangi |
Manual? |
| 05:19 |
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wahanui |
Manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
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Shum |
I havegone throught it But I am still unable to understand its implmentation |
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rangi |
Not sure what else to suggest then I am afraid |
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Shum |
:( |
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rangi |
Packages? |
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wahanui |
i guess Packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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Shum |
Can you tell me any LIVE example of KOHA implementation |
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Shum |
? |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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rangi |
There are links to demo sites on the koha-community.org site |
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Shum |
I have seen them |
| 06:02 |
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Shum |
as well |
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rangi |
If you've seen everything then there's nothing more we can do |
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Shum |
Ok Thank you ! |
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cait |
morning |
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cjh |
cait: good morning |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait! |
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mib_e5aaer |
Morning |
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cait |
:) |
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rangi |
Evening |
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wahanui |
somebody said Evening was better for me - but not too late |
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mib_e5aaer |
KOHa works in TAGS ? |
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mib_e5aaer |
Does KOHa works with tags ? |
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mib_e5aaer |
:) |
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Shum |
Does KOHA work with tags language |
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Shum |
? |
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rangi |
It works with ukranian language |
| 06:13 |
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rangi |
And you can tag things in the opac if you have that preference on |
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Shum |
ok |
| 06:15 |
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magnuse |
oslo public library does cool things with library metadata and rdf: http://digital.deichman.no/blo[…]6/active-shelves/ |
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rangi |
Brb kids to bed |
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alex_a |
bonjour tout le monde |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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magnuse |
hiya mtompset |
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mtompset |
Greetings, magnuse. |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on October 17, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
hola, reiveune |
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mtompset |
bonjour, reiveune. :) |
| 06:49 |
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reiveune |
salut mtompset :) |
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mtompset |
I was playing around in help today. It told me I couldn't edit the help. |
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mtompset |
I felt quite sad. :( -- Of course, there are a couple ways to give permissions, and I was wondering what the suggested way of doing it is. |
| 06:50 |
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mtompset |
clearly giving writing permissions to everyone is just wrong. |
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mtompset |
I was thinking of changing the group for the help files, and giving write permissions to the group. |
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mtompset |
I was thinking perhaps of changing the ownership of the help files. No chmod needed. |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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rangi |
hi kf |
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kf |
evening rangi |
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francharb |
hello |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
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kf |
hi paul_p |
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Herwig |
Morning all |
| 08:04 |
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kf |
hi Herwig |
| 08:26 |
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Herwig |
anny one here has seen the following before 12:20:07-17/10 zebraidx(18235) [fatal] Could not select database biblios errCode=109 zebra did run before but for some reason not annymore |
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kf |
Sorry, I am not sure where to start looking here |
| 08:36 |
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kf |
didit ever work? what version and kind of install did youdo? |
| 08:37 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kf, rangi, francharb, paul_p, Herwig. |
| 08:39 |
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Herwig |
it runs on ubuntu and 3.8 koha it did work before ... i did do a batch import of data (maybe i did do that wrong still searching how and what) |
| 08:42 |
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Herwig |
this is what i got on the screan http://users.telenet.be/webwij[…]oha/kohazebra.txt |
| 08:43 |
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kf |
12:20:06-17/10 zebraidx(18233) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/ze bradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied] 12:20:06-17/10 zebraidx(18233) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/ze bradb/biblios/shadow..LCK [Permission denied] |
| 08:43 |
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kf |
you got a permission problem here |
| 08:44 |
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kf |
you should run the jobs for zebra with you koha user |
| 08:44 |
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kf |
and all zebra files should be owned by the koha user |
| 08:44 |
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Herwig |
aha |
| 08:44 |
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kf |
or you will get problems |
| 08:44 |
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Herwig |
:OP |
| 08:44 |
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kf |
so maybe that's the cause :) |
| 08:53 |
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Herwig |
oh its that ... thx ... 1 stepp closer to victory ... :) (a few steps to go but before i post more questions i gonna experiment some more :) thx already) |
| 08:53 |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
happy I was able to help |
| 08:57 |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... permissions problems usually accompany a tarball installation. :( |
| 08:59 |
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magnuse |
kf++ |
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francharb |
0/ mtate |
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francharb |
oups |
| 09:04 |
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francharb |
0/ mtompset |
| 09:04 |
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francharb |
;) |
| 09:04 |
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mtompset |
That's the problem when you start your nick with a popular two letter combination. ;) |
| 09:11 |
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gerundio |
hey, back in LDAP auth |
| 09:11 |
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gerundio |
does anyone have any idea why authentication via shell works |
| 09:11 |
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gerundio |
but on the opac form doesn't? |
| 09:12 |
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kf |
gerundio: what are you trying to do? |
| 09:12 |
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gerundio |
LDAP auth |
| 09:12 |
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gerundio |
following some hints from jcamins_away here and some other docs in bywatersolutions blog |
| 09:13 |
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gerundio |
I edit koha/lib/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm to adjust the bind process to our LDAP server settings |
| 09:13 |
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gerundio |
http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/07/09/koha-ldap/ |
| 09:14 |
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gerundio |
search for the word "developer" in that blog post |
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gerundio |
and in this one: http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]work-in-koha-3-4/ |
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gerundio |
search for "quick testing" |
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gerundio |
the quick test works on the terminal and a borrower entry is successfully created in the DB |
| 09:16 |
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gerundio |
if I login via OPAC form it doesn't, I just get the regular "You entered an incorrect username or password. Please try again! And remember, usernames and passwords are case sensitive." message |
| 09:16 |
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gerundio |
any ideas anyone? |
| 09:25 |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
| 09:26 |
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Herwig |
i had the same problem had to make a kohaadmin user before it workek sec i copy the text for you |
| 09:31 |
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Herwig |
gerundio here is my info (i am on ubuntu so maybe its not 100 percent the same but its a start) http://users.telenet.be/webwij[…]koha/kohapass.pdf the red remarks is what i did |
| 09:39 |
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mtompset |
So, Herwig... you did a tarball install? |
| 09:39 |
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mtompset |
Because you wouldn't have to do that if you were using packages. |
| 09:40 |
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mtompset |
gerundio: So your staff client works, but your OPAC doesn't? |
| 09:41 |
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mtompset |
(for logging in) |
| 09:42 |
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mtompset |
Because Herwig, I would recommend installing using packages. The latest and greatest Ubuntu instructions (with links to the Debian one which is considered canonical) is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
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Herwig |
ok my next installment i will do (sorry was away someone had a problem) |
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mtompset |
not a problem. I was just away too, Herwig. :) |
| 10:41 |
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gerundio |
Herwig, sorry I went away for a while |
| 10:41 |
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gerundio |
I just saw your answer to my problem 1 hour ago regarding LDAP |
| 10:42 |
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gerundio |
the URL you sent me deals with kohaadmin user |
| 10:42 |
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gerundio |
I don't have problems with that :) |
| 10:55 |
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gerundio |
kf, are your still around? |
| 11:02 |
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kf |
yes, but not sure I can help |
| 11:02 |
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kf |
I have never worked with ldap or other authentication systems |
| 11:05 |
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drojf |
hi kf :) |
| 11:06 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, drojf. |
| 11:07 |
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drojf |
hey mtompset |
| 11:07 |
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wahanui |
mtompset is disliking the silent warnings flooding his error logs. |
| 11:07 |
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mtompset |
That is very true in the last couple of days. |
| 11:07 |
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drojf |
heh |
| 11:08 |
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mtompset |
Some are easy to fix... other's ... will require thinking about the logic to make sure the patch is right. |
| 11:08 |
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gerundio |
ok kf, thanks anyway |
| 11:09 |
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gerundio |
I haven't found anyone here who's worked with LDAP auth |
| 11:11 |
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drojf |
gerundio: maybe try the mailinglist? |
| 11:11 |
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kf |
gerundio: there are people, probably only not here right nwo |
| 11:11 |
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kf |
the mailing list is a good idea |
| 11:13 |
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gerundio |
I've googled a lot and found some topics from the mailing lists |
| 11:13 |
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gerundio |
but not really helpful :| |
| 11:14 |
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kf |
you should mail the list yourself :) |
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drojf |
dear raspberry pi reseller, please confirm my order that i placed 11 hours ago. i'm not a man of patience. |
| 11:32 |
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gerundio |
I just read something disturbing in bywatersolutions facebook notes regarding LDAP auth: https://www.facebook.com/notes[…]10150321097398209 |
| 11:32 |
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gerundio |
For auth-by-bind connections (include Microsoft Active Directory), you’ll need this information: Your patrons will need to be loaded from CSV using the Bulk Patron Import tool in Koha. Userid will need to be populated with the LDAP user login you wish them to use, but password can remain blank (or a default password can be added) |
| 11:34 |
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drojf |
what exactly is the disturbing part? |
| 11:34 |
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* drojf |
has no idea of LDAP |
| 11:34 |
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gerundio |
this means that I'll have to import the user records 1st in order do use LDAP with bind |
| 11:34 |
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gerundio |
for authentication |
| 11:35 |
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drojf |
i see |
| 11:36 |
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gerundio |
this doesn't make much sense |
| 11:36 |
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drojf |
one thing: that fb post is 13 months old. koha evolves all the time, it is not guaranteed that this information is still up-to-date. |
| 11:37 |
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gerundio |
well, I was able to login sucessfully using the "quick testing of the LDAP connection on the command line" |
| 11:37 |
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gerundio |
which created the borrower record in the DB |
| 11:38 |
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gerundio |
logging in the OPAC form works only after that record is created |
| 11:38 |
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gerundio |
if I try to login for the 1st time via OPAC the record is not created and I just get the login error message |
| 11:38 |
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gerundio |
got to go now, luch time |
| 11:39 |
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gerundio |
be back later to see if I can make something out of it |
| 11:39 |
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gerundio |
thanks anyway drojf |
| 11:39 |
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drojf |
does that sound like what you want? "For some ldap setups there is a different sequence for authentication that koha doesn't account for. The steps are: 1) Bind with a service account 2) Search for user entered 3) Bind as user if found" |
| 11:40 |
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drojf |
no i think its something different. sorry |
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drojf |
nickometer user110 |
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wahanui |
'user110' is 56% lame, drojf |
| 12:09 |
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drojf |
sorry, had to try it ;) |
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mtompset |
nickometer drojf |
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wahanui |
'drojf' is 0% lame, mtompset |
| 12:14 |
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mtompset |
nickometer mtompset |
| 12:14 |
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wahanui |
'mtompset' is 0% lame, mtompset |
| 12:14 |
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mtompset |
nickometer kf |
| 12:14 |
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wahanui |
'kf' is 0% lame, mtompset |
| 12:14 |
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drojf |
nickometer Guest1966 |
| 12:14 |
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wahanui |
'Guest1966' is 34% lame, drojf |
| 12:14 |
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mtompset |
nickometer lame |
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wahanui |
'lame' is 62% lame, mtompset |
| 12:14 |
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* mtompset |
laughs. |
| 12:14 |
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drojf |
lol |
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mtompset |
sorry, wahanui, but lame is 100% lame. |
| 12:15 |
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mtompset |
lame? |
| 12:16 |
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mtompset |
how did you know about the nickometer command, drojf? Did you intentionally request help to see what was there? |
| 12:17 |
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drojf |
eythian introduced it a while ago |
| 12:21 |
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drojf |
nickometer drojfx |
| 12:21 |
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wahanui |
'drojfx' is 0% lame, drojf |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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kf |
nickometer kf |
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wahanui |
'kf' is 0% lame, kf |
| 12:23 |
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kf |
nickometer cait |
| 12:23 |
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wahanui |
'cait' is 0% lame, kf |
| 12:24 |
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kf |
what does it do? |
| 12:24 |
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kf |
hi oleonard |
| 12:24 |
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oleonard |
nickometer? |
| 12:24 |
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drojf |
nickometer Mt0mPs3T |
| 12:24 |
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wahanui |
'Mt0mPs3T' is 99.82% lame, drojf |
| 12:25 |
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oleonard |
I suppose 0% lame is good kf |
| 12:25 |
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drojf |
look for numbers, caps etc. |
| 12:25 |
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magnuse |
nickometer magnuse |
| 12:25 |
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wahanui |
'magnuse' is 0% lame, magnuse |
| 12:26 |
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magnuse |
phew |
| 12:28 |
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oleonard |
clothesometer oleonard |
| 12:28 |
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user110 |
ah, well user110 is "user" + 110 volts of electricity, the US standard (although privately I suggest we might be better served by a 220v standard) |
| 12:29 |
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* oleonard |
still doesn't know if his clothes are lame :( |
| 12:29 |
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drojf |
user110: i guess the nickometer is too lame to understand that |
| 12:29 |
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kf |
nickometer user220 |
| 12:29 |
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wahanui |
'user220' is 34% lame, kf |
| 12:29 |
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kf |
user110 |
| 12:29 |
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kf |
nickometer user110 |
| 12:29 |
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wahanui |
'user110' is 56% lame, kf |
| 12:29 |
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kf |
user110: it would be an improvement :) |
| 12:30 |
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drojf |
lol |
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user220 |
nickometer user220 |
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wahanui |
'user220' is 34% lame, user220 |
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user220 |
hey kf, you're right! I improved from 50% lame to 34% lame |
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drojf |
nickometer user330 |
| 12:44 |
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wahanui |
'user330' is 56% lame, drojf |
| 12:44 |
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drojf |
looks like 220 is the way to go. also you do not need to modify the power grid |
| 12:44 |
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* magnuse |
has 120 passing tests for the digital signs |
| 12:44 |
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drojf |
cool |
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jcamins |
magnuse++ # that's the way to do it! |
| 12:51 |
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magnuse |
jcamins: we'll see if you still say that when you have to RM it :-) |
| 12:53 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 12:54 |
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jcamins |
True. |
| 12:55 |
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liw |
it's so practical that release managers have a dedicated tool just for them, "git rm" |
| 12:55 |
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jcamins |
liw: that's a very good point. |
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paul_p |
good morning americaners. |
| 12:57 |
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paul_p |
jcamins have you found a binder full of women this morning ? :D :D |
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user220 |
morning paul |
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oleonard |
paul_p: Our politics is nothing if not entertaining :| |
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jcamins |
paul_p: I'm going to have to read a summary of the debate, aren't I? |
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paul_p |
oleonard yes, I know |
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paul_p |
oleonard = you know what sounds the most strange to frenchies ? spending $$$$$$ in TV ads. In France, it's strictly forbidden, and no candidate to president elections can spend more than €8 million (I haven't made any mistyping) |
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oleonard |
Well, your free speech is obviously much suppressed ;) |
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paul_p |
8M, is probably what your candidates spent every day... I mean here it's the amount for the whole campaign ! |
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drojf |
there is a nice new rap news episode about the elections too https://www.youtube.com/embed/WpMPu5p_QXU |
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paul_p |
+ since 10 years or so, it's also forbidden for a company to fund a political campaign |
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drojf |
or about the debate rather |
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drojf |
as an ignorant european, i believe this is everything i need to know about it |
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nickometer user440 |
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wahanui |
'user440' is 34% lame, user220 |
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mtompset |
nickometer Dr0j7 |
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wahanui |
'Dr0j7' is 99.48% lame, mtompset |
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magnuse |
nickometer mib_440 |
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wahanui |
'mib_440' is 41% lame, magnuse |
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oleonard |
I guess one question to ask paul_p is has it improved the election process? At the very least elections must be less annoying. |
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mtompset |
I think it probably compares against l33t spelling? |
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paul_p |
oleonard = I don't think so. campaigns are still very boring here. The one who win is usually the one who promize the most ! |
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oleonard |
paul_p: I hope your elections don't become more exciting based on the American model |
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paul_p |
nickometer paul_p |
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wahanui |
'paul_p' is 14% lame, paul_p |
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paul_p |
nickometer p ul_p1 |
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wahanui |
'pul_p1' is 42% lame, paul_p |
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jcamins |
nickometer jcamins |
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wahanui |
'jcamins' is 0% lame, jcamins |
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jcamins |
:) |
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paul_p |
oleonard you're probably right about nickometer rules ! |
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mtompset |
nickometer a |
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wahanui |
'a' is 0% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5 |
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wahanui |
'a5' is 17% lame, mtompset |
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nickometer a5_ |
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wahanui |
'a5_' is 22% lame, mtompset |
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nickometer a5_a |
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wahanui |
'a5_a' is 31% lame, mtompset |
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nickometer a5_a5 |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5' is 78% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5_a5& |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5&' is 87% lame, mtompset |
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jcamins |
nickometer at_A5& |
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wahanui |
'at_A5&' is 36% lame, jcamins |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5_a5&A |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5&A' is 99.51% lame, mtompset |
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jcamins |
Huh. |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5_a5&A5 |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5&A5' is 99.85% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5_a5&A5@ |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5&A5@' is 99.87% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5_a5&A5A |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5&A5A' is 99.9189% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5_a5&A5A5 |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5&A5A5' is 99.9460% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5_a5&A5A5! |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5&A5A5!' is 99.9508% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5_a5&A5A5@ |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5&A5A5@' is 99.9508% lame, mtompset |
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oleonard |
nickometer Bug8882 |
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wahanui |
'Bug8882' is 30% lame, oleonard |
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mtompset |
nickometer a5_a5&A5A5# |
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wahanui |
'a5_a5&A5A5#' is 99.9508% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
nickometer aaAA5555!@#$ |
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wahanui |
'aaAA5555!@#$' is 99.86% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
Order obviously plays into it. |
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jcamins |
nickometer SuP3rL33t& |
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wahanui |
'SuP3rL33t&' is 99.9035% lame, jcamins |
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jcamins |
nickometer SuP3rL33t&r |
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wahanui |
'SuP3rL33t&r' is 99.9035% lame, jcamins |
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jcamins |
nickometer 5uP3rL33t&r |
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wahanui |
'5uP3rL33t&r' is 99.9059% lame, jcamins |
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mtompset |
nickometer 5uP3rL33t&r5uP3rL33t&r |
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wahanui |
'5uP3rL33t&r5uP3rL33t&r' is 99.9860% lame, mtompset |
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mtompset |
Oh come on... That's got to be 100% lame. |
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oleonard |
When you reach 100% lame the internet breaks |
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| 13:36 |
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mtompset |
Aren't fines calculated at check in time? |
| 13:36 |
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mtompset |
(as per enhancement 7849 since 3.8.1) |
| 13:36 |
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jcamins |
Unless you're using the cron job. |
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mtompset |
What's the default set up for packages? |
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jcamins |
It's set by sysprefs. |
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jcamins |
The default is not to charge fines at a ll. |
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jcamins |
*all |
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jcamins |
I think, anyway. |
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jcamins |
The fines are recorded, of course, but no notices go out. |
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mtompset |
I was noting that there is a fine.pl in /etc/cron.daily |
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mtompset |
I was noting that there is a fine.pl in /etc/cron.daily/koha-common |
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jcamins |
Yes, that calculates the fines nightly. |
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mtompset |
what time does cron.daily run at? |
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jcamins |
No idea. |
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jcamins |
3am, maybe? |
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jcamins |
I'm sure you could find out somewhere. |
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* jcamins |
doesn't generally worry much about cron. |
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mtompset |
The /etc/crontab file says. :) |
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gerundio |
drojf, back |
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gerundio |
just read you comment regaring the ldap auth topic 2 hours ago |
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gerundio |
what you described is the scenario I'm implementing yes |
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gerundio |
1) bind anonymously 2) search for the user 3) bind as the user if found |
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gerundio |
did you saw any reference to that? |
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drojf |
gerundio: yes, on the bug tracker |
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drojf |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7973 |
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huginn |
Bug 7973: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication |
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drojf |
gerundio: maybe libsysguy can tell you more about it |
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gerundio |
ok, I'm watching that patch diff |
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gerundio |
I've done that myself... so I'm just comparing to see if my code matches that one |
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* libsysguy |
perks up |
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libsysguy |
actually Dobrica was right |
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libsysguy |
it should have been more general |
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gerundio |
my changes to the code are a little different, but the result is the same |
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gerundio |
libsysguy, with this method does the borrowers table record get created upon sucessfull login? |
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gerundio |
with replicate set to 1 of course |
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libsysguy |
yes it does |
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libsysguy |
but really, it needs tweaked. I am tempted to take down that patch to remove confusion |
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libsysguy |
I don't really have the setup to test it anymore |
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mtompset |
Why not finish the patch? ;) |
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mtompset |
Ah. |
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libsysguy |
I read your mind mtompset |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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mtompset |
Yes, yes you did. |
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mtompset |
This is the sort of thing I'd like to get set up when I get back to Canada... so many fun Koha related things to play with, but fiscal realities suck. :( |
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libsysguy |
indeed they do |
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gerundio |
I have the setup and can assist you guys |
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gerundio |
my problem know is that the DB record isn't being created upon the 1st login atempt in OPAC |
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gerundio |
if I use the "/path/to/files/opac/opac-user.pl userid=your_test_ID password=test_user_password > junk.txt" method to test the login |
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gerundio |
the record gets created |
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gerundio |
any idea why this might be happening? |
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libsysguy |
so you are saying with current master code its not working? |
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gerundio |
I patched the "/path/to/files/lib/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm" perl module |
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gerundio |
so I could do that 3 step bind |
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libsysguy |
bind search bind? |
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gerundio |
on my terminal I can log in fine, on OPAC not really |
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gerundio |
yes, bind search bind |
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gerundio |
I don't see any errors in the logs |
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gerundio |
but maybe because they're not being thrown there |
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libsysguy |
hmm well the replicate function shouldn't be touched with any code to modify koha to do the 3 step bind |
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gerundio |
how can I increase the debug level to see what goes wrong with OPAC login? |
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gerundio |
I didn't touch it |
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libsysguy |
you can throw your own with "print STDERR 'some error';" |
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gerundio |
got to tell you, I'm not very handy with perl |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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gerundio |
but this last few days patching this file already got me into it :) |
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libsysguy |
so basically ignore the debug level in the Auth_with_ldap.pm file |
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libsysguy |
you won't get far |
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libsysguy |
i feel like that poor file has been ostracized by everyone |
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libsysguy |
im trying to think about the easiest way to get you what you need |
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libsysguy |
If you don't care about local changes I would just change the code in the else statement |
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libsysguy |
if you do you are going to have to modify my patch a bit |
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gerundio |
so, if I understood your patch correctly you added a 3rd auth method - a 2nd ldap bind method - right? |
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libsysguy |
correct |
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libsysguy |
it added that 3 step bind method |
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gerundio |
so you also added a new entry in the koha-conf.xml file, correct? |
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drojfx |
+1 for editing libsysguy's patch and giving back the changes to the community. will make your updates much easier and make you "that LDAP guy" for testing too ;) |
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gerundio |
"bind_with_service" |
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libsysguy |
correct |
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libsysguy |
and yes you can have the title of "that LDAP guy"... |
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gerundio |
lolol |
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gerundio |
not sure I can handle it |
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gerundio |
I'm just a middle man |
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libsysguy |
please…take it |
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libsysguy |
p |
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gerundio |
my knowledge of LDAP and Koha are very limited |
| 14:24 |
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gerundio |
I'll be happy to contribute the patch |
| 14:24 |
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libsysguy |
practice makes perfect hehe |
| 14:24 |
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gerundio |
:) |
| 14:24 |
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libsysguy |
if you want to test mine and see if it works I'd welcome it |
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oleonard |
"bind_with_service?" Sounds like something out of a S&M/LDAP crossover bestseller |
| 14:25 |
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libsysguy |
heh oleonard |
| 14:25 |
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libsysguy |
and now I can never think about ldap binds again |
| 14:25 |
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gerundio |
I was about to ask why "bind_with_service", but seems oleonard already shed some light on the subject :p |
| 14:25 |
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libsysguy |
without thinking about S&M lol |
| 14:25 |
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gerundio |
but why bind_with_service? |
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libsysguy |
well I wanted it to be bind with service account |
| 14:26 |
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libsysguy |
the first step in th3 3 step bind |
| 14:26 |
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gerundio |
ok |
| 14:26 |
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libsysguy |
but in hindsight 3StepBind might have been a better choice |
| 14:26 |
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libsysguy |
what can I say, I was young and experimenting |
| 14:26 |
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gerundio |
to revoke oleonard's argument we can call it "auth_by_bind_search_bind" :D |
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gerundio |
unless he can find some sort on S&M connection there too |
| 14:27 |
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libsysguy |
oleonard can find S&M in anything |
| 14:27 |
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libsysguy |
he is an active member of the community :p |
| 14:28 |
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libsysguy |
oops |
| 14:28 |
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libsysguy |
s/the/this/ |
| 14:28 |
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gerundio |
btw, from what I could figure out, this 3 step bind method |
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jcamins |
gerundio: sounds like an LDAP/Tolkien crossover. |
| 14:28 |
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gerundio |
use LDAP's DN (distinguishedName) for the bind |
| 14:28 |
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gerundio |
so we could call it auth_by_dn_bind |
| 14:28 |
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gerundio |
better? |
| 14:29 |
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libsysguy |
better |
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libsysguy |
if we did what the last comment suggested we could define whatever attrib we wanted |
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gerundio |
let me ask the LDAP guru around here :) |
| 14:33 |
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libsysguy |
here or there? |
| 14:34 |
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gerundio |
my LDAP guru :D |
| 14:34 |
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gerundio |
done and back |
| 14:34 |
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gerundio |
we just need to fix that auth_by_bind method there |
| 14:34 |
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gerundio |
we don't need to add auth_by_dn_bind... since the bind is always done via DN |
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gerundio |
the problem there is that whoever wrote that code assumed that DN = username |
| 14:35 |
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gerundio |
when in reality that doesn't occur |
| 14:35 |
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gerundio |
DN can be anything really, being LDAP a tree, the DN is simply the key to each tree node |
| 14:36 |
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gerundio |
which for some people can be the username, but for most people I'm guessing it's not |
| 14:36 |
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gerundio |
was my argument clear enough? |
| 14:37 |
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libsysguy |
yeah when I wrote that patch it was definitely for out ldap setup which was shotty at best |
| 14:37 |
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libsysguy |
so I would welcome you fixing it :) |
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rambutan |
just testing to see if regular commands work with "off" |
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rambutan |
you know, on this page: http://koha-community.org/faqs[…]ch-stuff-up-help/ |
| 14:43 |
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rambutan |
this command: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v –full `/usr/sbin/koha-list` |
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jcamins |
Hm. that should be two dashes, not an em dash. |
| 14:44 |
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rambutan |
may be causing people problems. I had my tech assistant working on setting up a backup server, and he wasn't getting the command right |
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* oleonard |
also hates it when Wordpress replaces regular double quotes with "smart quotes" in code snippets |
| 14:44 |
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rambutan |
I looked at it, and immediately knew, although it didn't appear so, that there was a double dash in front of "full", but even if you cut and paste from the web page |
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liw |
you could replace `...` with $(...) |
| 14:45 |
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* jcamins |
doesn't know how to edit that page. |
| 14:45 |
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rambutan |
into a text editor you may not get it--kate mangles it into something |
| 14:45 |
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jcamins |
liw: Wordpress is mangling the double dash, too. |
| 14:45 |
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rambutan |
and the "back tics" are not obvious either. I thing there was a chat discussion w/ wizzy way back in February about this. |
| 14:46 |
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rambutan |
anyway, I think it would be helpfult to add those comments to that page |
| 14:46 |
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liw |
jcamins, bad wordpress, bad, bad, bad :) |
| 14:46 |
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* liw |
is biased |
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libsysguy |
oleonard I have a quick question about addbiblio.tt |
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jcamins |
liw: run away, libsysguy. Run far away, and never return to addbiblio.tt. |
| 14:46 |
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jcamins |
Sorry, that was for libsysguy. |
| 14:47 |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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libsysguy |
I just want to sort the fields |
| 14:47 |
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gerundio |
libsysguy, I'll submit a revision to your patch |
| 14:47 |
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libsysguy |
sweet, thanks gerundio |
| 14:47 |
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* libsysguy |
washes hands of it :p |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: sort the fields? |
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gerundio |
how can I get a user account in the bug tracker? |
| 14:48 |
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libsysguy |
yeah so right now you can sort the subfields with the arrows |
| 14:48 |
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jcamins |
liw: I don't suppose you were involved with lxc at all? |
| 14:48 |
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libsysguy |
but if you have multiple say 600 fields |
| 14:48 |
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jcamins |
gerundio: just create a new account. |
| 14:48 |
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gerundio |
got it |
| 14:48 |
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libsysguy |
I might like to sort those too |
| 14:48 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: good luck. |
| 14:48 |
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gerundio |
just saw it in the homepage |
| 14:49 |
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jcamins |
That is much needed, of course. |
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libsysguy |
b-b-but jcamins I wanted to use http://jqueryui.com/sortable/#[…]ists-through-tabs |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I think using jqueryui would be a great idea. You'll need to start over from scratch, though. |
| 14:51 |
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jcamins |
The existing javascript is much too brittle. |
| 14:51 |
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oleonard |
libsysguy: If your question to me is, "Do you mind if I jump into a pit of snakes with not even Karen Allen to help me" of course the answer is yes. |
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libsysguy |
great... |
| 14:52 |
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libsysguy |
well my deadline is 3.12 |
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* libsysguy |
cracks knuckles |
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jcamins |
You could start with chris_n's work. |
| 14:53 |
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gerundio |
libsysguy, quick question |
| 14:53 |
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libsysguy |
sure gerundio |
| 14:53 |
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libsysguy |
jcamins is that on github? |
| 14:53 |
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gerundio |
the "principal_name" setting in the koha-conf.xml should be changed |
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libsysguy |
that was there before my time |
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oleonard |
What is chris_n's work jcamins? |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: oleonard: https://github.com/cnighswonge[…]/tree/marc_editor |
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gerundio |
it should be replaced with a new setting where we would define the search filter |
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libsysguy |
gerundio if you change that you could have a whole bunch of pissed off libraries |
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libsysguy |
okay but remember you have to preserve existing functionality |
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libsysguy |
so you'd have to write something to make the old stuff owrk |
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libsysguy |
work* |
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gerundio |
ok, thus my question :D |
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libsysguy |
or leave it |
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libsysguy |
ah |
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libsysguy |
so there is a nice catch tothis |
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libsysguy |
if you update the field in koha-conf.xml |
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gerundio |
even if the old stuff is not coded correctly? |
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gerundio |
this was developed under a wrong assumption |
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gerundio |
how can we correct that now? |
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libsysguy |
I would start by making the assumption that it is working |
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libsysguy |
and you would like to further generalize it |
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libsysguy |
rather than its not working and we should fix it |
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jcamins |
^^ this is a good plan. Anything not backwards compatible will not be accepted. |
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libsysguy |
I know of several libraries that are using the LDAP code successfully |
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libsysguy |
unmodified |
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gerundio |
legacy code's a bitch :D |
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libsysguy |
heh indeed but we don't want to end up like ruby on rails |
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gerundio |
I bet they are, their DN must be something like uidlibrary.domain |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I guess we know who is going to be QAing this code. :P |
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libsysguy |
heh yes the harshest QAA here |
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libsysguy |
so gerundio yes typically the DN is the same as the sAMAccountname |
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gerundio |
ok, so legacy code it is |
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gerundio |
I'll do it by adding 2 more settings to the koha-conf.xml file |
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gerundio |
"auth_by_dn_bind" and "filter" |
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jcamins |
paul_p: just FYI, caching and Plack don't work together. |
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paul_p |
jcamins really ? memcaching you mean ? |
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libsysguy |
gerundio are you moving principal_name to auth_by_dn_bind |
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jcamins |
Koha::Cache. |
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jcamins |
You had me change it to use environment variables. |
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gerundio |
libsysguy, no... I'm adding auth_by_dn_bind and filter |
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libsysguy |
okay just making sure |
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gerundio |
auth_by_bind and principal_name will still be there |
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paul_p |
yikes. What do you mean by "don't work" ? nasty error, or just no caching ? |
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jcamins |
paul_p: no caching at all. |
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jcamins |
At least, that's what it seems like to me. |
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gerundio |
so basically people will be using a combination of those 2 |
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paul_p |
jcamins jcamins = that may explain why my tests show no measurable perf improvements... I concluded it was "because memcache is not about speed, it's about charge" |
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paul_p |
once again, it's 5PM here, and I haven't started to push a patch :(((( |
| 15:07 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: well, that's true, too. |
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paul_p |
same as yesterday, same as monday :( |
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* paul_p |
head to push patches... |
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jcamins |
paul_p: to summarize, though, using environment variables precludes persistent environments without a great deal of creativity. |
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jcamins |
So far as I can tell. |
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paul_p |
jcamins (not sure I've understood) |
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jcamins |
paul_p: as far as I can tell, since the environment variables weren't set when Plack was started, caching is disabled, permanently. |
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paul_p |
the plack.psgi can include them, isn't it ? |
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jcamins |
I am not sure. |
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jcamins |
Figuring that out is on my to-do list. |
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paul_p |
jcamins http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7844 could help ! |
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huginn |
Bug 7844: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , plack scripts for developers |
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jcamins |
Interesting. Those scripts are different than the ones in his git repo. |
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jcamins |
paul_p: FYI, this is what I'm using: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Starman_and_nginx |
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reiveune |
bye |
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libsysguy |
so while pushing my calendar work to github I am realizing just how large Koha is |
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libsysguy |
or perhaps just how slow my upload speed is |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: both. |
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libsysguy |
200 KiB/s |
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mtompset |
Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone. |
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libsysguy |
looks like its going to be a solid 200 Mb |
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jcamins |
liw: did I ask you yet if you were involved in the creation of lxc? |
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liw |
jcamins, I don't think you did; I wasn't |
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jcamins |
Aww. |
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jcamins |
I was hoping you could tell me how to use lxc for testing installation. |
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jcamins |
(of Koha) |
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jcamins |
(automatically) |
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kf |
bye all |
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gerundio |
libsysguy, need your help |
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libsysguy |
sup |
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gerundio |
see the 1st line inside the ldap_entry_2_hash function |
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gerundio |
my $userldapentry = shift; |
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libsysguy |
ye |
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gerundio |
what is that suppose to do? :) |
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libsysguy |
yeah* |
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libsysguy |
that is taking an argument |
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libsysguy |
so it wants you to pass it a variable |
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gerundio |
ok |
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gerundio |
so its just picking the 1st passed argument |
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libsysguy |
correct |
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gerundio |
I see the function call now |
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gerundio |
thanks |
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libsysguy |
so if there was another shift it would take a second argument |
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oleonard |
Hi francharb, juan_sieira |
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juan_sieira |
hi Owen¡ |
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gerundio |
libsysguy, I'm getting the following error "Can't call method "exists" on an undefined value at " in the following line |
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gerundio |
$userldapentry->exists('uid'); # This is bad, but required! By side-effect, this initializes the attrs hash. |
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gerundio |
I'm debugging this and still haven't come up with any idea why this is happening |
| 15:55 |
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gerundio |
but I already like that comment :D |
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jcamins |
gerundio: as you can see, we do not subscribe to the "no side effects" rule of programming. ;) |
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libsysguy |
so basically its saying that uid doesn't exist in your ldap tree |
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libsysguy |
sorry I stepped away |
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gerundio |
that's my concern yeah :D |
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libsysguy |
you could try replacing exists with defined but I don't know the implications of that |
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gerundio |
but uid exists |
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gerundio |
I just have to make sure it's being returned in the LDAP search |
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gerundio |
which I thought I already did |
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jcamins |
I figured it out! |
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jcamins |
I'll transfer the files I'm interested in via http. |
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jcamins |
Have nginx serve ~/releases over the bridge adapter only. |
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* tcohen |
is really happy tuning his fresh new laptop: 4'' from grub to login manager :-D |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #909 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 1963 Problem with deleted biblio in a virtual shelf <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e274b95619dc9166> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_4118' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fb9fd964fc35cc582> / Bug 4118: Follow up: Add ccode to kohastructure for stats <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
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jcamins |
Downloading Koha's dependences at 500kbps takes 5 minutes. |
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jcamins |
Hm. apt-get told me it was downloading 88MB, but I don't think that math adds up right. |
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oleonard |
Hi cait! You just missed kf. She was here earlier. |
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cait |
oh no |
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cait |
I always miss her |
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cait |
wonder when we will finally meet |
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jcamins |
Right, there's the multiarch issue that was reported on the mailing list. |
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* jcamins |
works around it, creatively. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: you set up an apt proxy, didn't you? Which one did you use? |
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* drojf |
is slightly puzzled by the job description request on the list |
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drojf |
how would i know what they are looking for? |
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oleonard |
They're asking what qualifications you would ask for if you wanted to hire someone to help develop Koha |
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cait |
h |
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cait |
m |
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cait |
aren't they a bywater library? |
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drojf |
ok. but doesn't that still depend on what they are looking for? "developing koha" is a broad field |
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cait |
I gues there are some basic general skills |
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cait |
but sharing the direction they want development done woul dmaybe help |
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drojf |
ok. "know perl" :) |
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drojf |
but also maybe know javascript or jquery or html or css or ldap :P |
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drojf |
d'oh |
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slef |
sql |
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drojf |
oh that too |
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slef |
MARC and z3950 |
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drojf |
basically not a student if you want all of that ;) |
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slef |
nah, some of that will be OK, then they learn the rest on the job |
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slef |
but basically some data-mangling experience is very handy |
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slef |
and often sadly lacking in computer scientists |
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jcamins |
slef: ditto common sense. |
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* oleonard |
adds "Not afraid of snakes" |
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slef |
jcamins: ah, beware there. Common sense is often not common. |
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slef |
jcamins: I had a luuuuuuurvley former colleague who would claim all sorts of craziness was "just common sense", refuse to justify it and be offended that anyone disagrees. |
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jcamins |
slef: I meant "common sense is often sadly lacking." |
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slef |
jcamins: I mean "not common" in the sense(!) that two people may have very different ideas of what is common sense |
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jcamins |
lol |
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dcook |
Morning #koha! |
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oleonard |
dcook, regarding Bug 8585 I think it's customary to obsolete patches after they've been pushed to master if a follow-up was added |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8585 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add System Preference to specify Holds to Pull List Start Date |
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dcook |
Now that you mention it, that does sound vaguely familiar |
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dcook |
Why is that? |
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jcamins |
dcook: so that people don't spend time trying to apply a patch that is no longer relevant. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: are you using apt-cache, apt-cacher-ng, or squid-deb-proxy? |
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dcook |
Mmm, I think I follow you, jcamins |
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tcohen |
jcamins, we have an official mirror here |
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dcook |
So a RM would cherrypick it from master and anyone else wanting to backport it would need to do the same? |
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tcohen |
used apt-mirror before |
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jcamins |
dcook: right. |
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dcook |
Cool. Thanks, jcamins and oleonard. |
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oleonard |
dcook: And since it's not a bug fix it probably won't be. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: hm. I don't think that will help with lxc. |
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tcohen |
jcamins, what r u trying to do? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I'm setting up Koha installation testing using lxc. |
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dcook |
oleonard: good point. It seems like patches that insert new system preferences get difficult to apply anyway. I'm probably the only person who would use this enhancement ahead of it going into a stable release. |
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tcohen |
looks nice |
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slef |
groan... does exchange usually blackhole emails with unknown From lines? |
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jcamins |
slef: that sounds probable. |
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slef |
jcamins: if so, that's so stupid I don't know where to start with it. |
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* oleonard |
can't imagine slef willingly getting within 10 feet of Exchange |
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slef |
oleonard: I didn't know it was there until I switched TLS on and the certificate mentioned Exchange... |
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slef |
...rather than the host I was expecting. |
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jcamins |
slef: see exhibit A: my absolute refusal to work with Exchange. |
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slef |
jcamins: so what would you do if you uncovered a stealth Exchange? ;) |
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jcamins |
slef: run away screaming. |
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slef |
jcamins: I'm pondering "hello library - I've found why it's broken [...] so please fix your Exchange or approve me sending all your email out over a VPN?" |
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dracoling |
please insert sane MTA to continue |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #909: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/909/ |
| 17:19 |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Follow up to Bug 8585: add missing word to preference |
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jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3652: [SIGNED-OFF] XSS fixes - follow up |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 5356: Followup Change font in the layout3pages pdf |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 4118: Follow up: Add ccode to kohastructure for stats |
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jenkins_koha |
* f.demians: Bug 1963 Problem with deleted biblio in a virtual shelf |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8585 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add System Preference to specify Holds to Pull List Start Date |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, chrish, Needs Signoff , XSS vulnerabilities |
| 17:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5356 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Shipping billing address improvements |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4118 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add Collection Code to Statistics Table |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1963 normal, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Problem with deleted biblio in a virtual shelf |
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tcohen |
anyone has his vimrc config for tabs/spaces compliance? |
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jcamins |
set expandtab |
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jcamins |
set shiftwidth=4 |
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tcohen |
plus set softtabstop=4? |
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jcamins |
set tabstop=4 |
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libsysguy |
oleonard have all the jqueryui libraries been pushed to master? |
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oleonard |
No |
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libsysguy |
is there a bug to do that? |
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oleonard |
No. |
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libsysguy |
so we're still holding to the integrate them one at a time |
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oleonard |
I don't think we need to. |
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libsysguy |
what do you mean oleonard? |
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oleonard |
I don't think we need to integrate them one at a time, if someone wants to submit a patch adding the rest. I assumed that the next patch which required an additional library would add the rest too |
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libsysguy |
heh I was waiting on somebody else to do it |
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libsysguy |
I was going to try and implement sortable for addbiblio.pl |
| 17:42 |
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libsysguy |
and get rid of the up arrow functions |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: sortable is already included. |
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libsysguy |
0_0 |
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oleonard |
There you go |
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* libsysguy |
missed it |
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jcamins |
You missed it? |
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libsysguy |
I just scrolled through that js file |
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jcamins |
My beautiful Did you mean? configuration page was missed!?! |
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libsysguy |
uh oh |
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* jcamins |
is outraged. |
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* libsysguy |
ducks |
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jcamins |
Outraged, I say! |
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* libsysguy |
wields trout |
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libsysguy |
jcamins you weren't kidding when you said addbiblio.pl was a mess |
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Shane-S |
where is the due date setting or what is it called, I search for due date and overdue and get setting but no time frame like "1 week" "4 days" etc when I search admin pref. |
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Shane-S |
I did find allow staff to set due date, would that be the field? |
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libsysguy |
first question? |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
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cait |
second question? |
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wahanui |
i guess second question is "What is the exact error message?" |
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Shane-S |
I found it, I had no circulation rule |
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jcamins |
9libsI warned you. |
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jcamins |
*libsysguy: |
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libsysguy |
this file needs some love |
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libsysguy |
it looks like the last time it was touched was when javascript was written :p |
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Shane-S |
what library standard does Koha use so I person sending me a disk on books could send me in the right format? |
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Shane-S |
IE. I used to say Follett to the vendor |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: MARC21. |
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Shane-S |
ty |
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Shane-S |
based on dewi decimal is there an easy way to search between fiction and non fiction? |
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Shane-S |
or even if there isn't a way, I am thinking we need a custom field to do that, but figured you all may have a simple way. |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: use collection codes or item types. |
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jcamins |
Custom fields are ALWAYS a TERRIBLE idea. |
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Shane-S |
okay thanks |
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slef |
argh bitten again. GoToMeeting. Apparently it's currently broken on both Android and Linux. |
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slef |
(replies "Unable to Process Your Request // We apologize, but we cannot process your request" to current Linux Firefoxes. Offers a "Tap to download the GoToMeeting app" link to Android, but the link is 404 Not Found.) |
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Shane-S |
i think i missed something in Koha, can users by default settings self checkout books online? |
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Shane-S |
I am seeing many overdue books via circulation, and one is from a staff member who I know hasn't been in to physically check out books |
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Shane-S |
side question: anyone know how to make a barcode scanner beep as it inputs? |
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slef |
Shane-S: that's an option on some scanners. |
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slef |
Shane-S: looking in the device's manual? |
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* slef |
wonders where his scanners went in the move |
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cait |
^^ that |
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cait |
manual :) |
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Shane-S |
slef: sadly the software made the beep for ours, its from follet, I think the "line return" made the beep |
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slef |
Shane-S: is it USB? |
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Shane-S |
yeah |
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Shane-S |
with an adpater it is, has a wired square-ish end |
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Shane-S |
the plugs into a white USB adapter |
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slef |
Shane-S: I think you could run a program that peeked at whatever is the right /dev/input/event* and beeped whenever it saw an end of line, but I've never done that and I'm also not sure how you'd make sure it saw everything before the buffer got emptied. |
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Shane-S |
okay, I didn't know if there is a simple way to be like play sound when keyboard device X ...hoped windows had a simple way |
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Shane-S |
I will look into getting a better on, as it would be nice to have the trigger work too, this one is always on |
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slef |
oh it's windows? |
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slef |
Ignore what I said about /dev/input/event* |
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slef |
no idea what crazy stuff that does these days, sorry |
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Shane-S |
slef, yeah the library desktop is. Minor thing...I have to track down how these books are being checked out |
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Shane-S |
all the self checkout stuff says disabled |
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slef |
Shane-S: time to read logs, both in koha admin and in apache files |
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* slef |
goes to dinne |
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gmcharlt |
re bug 6529, what is the general sense of whether the cataloging search results should include all items, regardless of status? |
| 18:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6529 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloging search issues - withdrawn, lost, on-order counts not displayed consistently |
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* gmcharlt |
leans towards including all, since that's explicitly a staff search |
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oleonard |
All, unless otherwise specified by a system preference |
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oleonard |
Oh, specifically cataloging search, not regular staff search? |
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gmcharlt |
right |
| 18:41 |
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oleonard |
Then all, yeah. |
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* phasefx |
is willing to try his hand at a patch |
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gmcharlt |
phasefx: do it do it do it |
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* phasefx |
reads the Get Involved page |
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* oleonard |
imagines gmcharlt bouncing up and down in his chair as he says it |
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* phasefx |
also speaks in 3rd person |
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oleonard |
gmcharlt: Digging up old bugs eh? |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: what's old is new again, at least to one of our customers |
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oleonard |
Squeaky wheel gets the grease. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
as long as something gets grease we are moving, right? :) |
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* oleonard |
greases his keyboard for faster typing action |
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cait |
hehe |
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rangi |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi |
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cait |
morning |
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trea |
morning rangi |
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cait |
hi trea |
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trea |
hi cait o/ |
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cait |
:) |
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rangi |
is magnuse around? |
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cait |
bit late for him if he is :) |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
i think im gonna push bug 8793 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8793 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Fix materialTypeCode/typeOf008 icons for NORMARC XSLT |
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cait |
ah |
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rangi |
it changes some strings but only in normarc |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
yeah I think it's fixing some problems |
| 19:31 |
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rangi |
and thats all in norwegian already |
| 19:32 |
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rangi |
so wont be a translation issue |
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cait |
sounds reasonable tome |
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rangi |
cool |
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rangi |
here's some good cherry-picking music http://soundcloud.com/bassnect[…]ssnectar-infinite |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #205 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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libsysguy |
oleonard you still around? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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libsysguy |
I have never seen a selector like this in jquery |
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libsysguy |
$( "ul:first li", $tabs ) |
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libsysguy |
do you know what it does? |
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oleonard |
"$tabs" is the scope of the selector |
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libsysguy |
ahh |
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oleonard |
jQuery will not look outside of $tabs for "ul:first li" |
| 19:42 |
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libsysguy |
well that makes sense |
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libsysguy |
well how clever is that |
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oleonard |
Yeah, I'm sure I under-use it, but it's supposed to make your code run faster since jQuery doesn't have to check everything |
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libsysguy |
i noticed it on one of the jqueryui examples |
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libsysguy |
and there wasn't a direct reference in the api |
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libsysguy |
err, I didn't see one |
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libsysguy |
but my eyes have failed me today |
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libsysguy |
also, the underlying issue I was having was droppable isn't in the jquery-ui file |
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libsysguy |
but in hindsight I probably didn't need it |
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libsysguy |
I can't see any librarians needing to drap and drop fields between marc fields |
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oleonard |
Is jsicot's tweet about a mobile app? |
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rangi |
probably, i mean, we havent reached 30 different ones yet |
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rangi |
may as well keep doing our own silos |
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jcamins |
Ooh, did I miss an interesting conversation? |
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cait |
lol |
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rangi |
08:53 < oleonard> Is jsicot's tweet about a mobile app? |
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jcamins |
lol |
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oleonard |
New mobile app, no public repo. :( |
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oleonard |
Because that would be too good to be true, wouldn't it? |
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* jcamins |
expresses surprise. |
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rangi |
*sigh* |
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rangi |
you'd think libraries would get sharing, sadly not many do |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
| 20:16 |
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libsysguy |
I have decided to start pushing all my work to my github branch |
| 20:16 |
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libsysguy |
since it wasn't seeing much action on catalyst |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #205: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/205/ |
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jenkins_koha |
magnus: Bug 8793 - Fix materialTypeCode/typeOf008 icons for NORMARC XSLT |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8793 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Fix materialTypeCode/typeOf008 icons for NORMARC XSLT |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #206 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I'm moving toward doing all my development directly on my git repo. |
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* rangi |
deletes that mail unread |
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jcamins |
rangi: the tone was slightly better than usual, so I answered. |
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libsysguy |
how was that working jcamins |
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rangi |
cool |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: it's working well, but it requires that you, you know, have a public git repo on your development box. |
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libsysguy |
oh man I don't know if I can handle that |
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* jcamins |
hasn't yet set up the git hooks to automatically force-push everything to github, gitorious, and bitbucket. |
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libsysguy |
you run all 3?! |
| 20:27 |
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jcamins |
Not yet. |
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jcamins |
No git hook. |
| 20:27 |
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libsysguy |
oh but bucket is atlassian right? |
| 20:28 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. It's good to have a fifth line of backups. |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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libsysguy |
I like that it has built in code review |
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* jcamins |
has never used it. |
| 20:29 |
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libsysguy |
you know, if we worked together as a company :p |
| 20:29 |
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libsysguy |
i guess the RM could review all code |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: are you implying we shouldn't be developing mobile interfaces in secret? |
| 20:29 |
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libsysguy |
I'm implying we shouldn't be developing anything in secret |
| 20:30 |
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libsysguy |
because you end up with 2+ people having the same idea and going about it 30+ ways :p |
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rangi |
i just stick with gitorious mainly (and our catalyst git server of course), for the obvious reasons |
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libsysguy |
i like github |
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libsysguy |
they have always treated my code right |
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libsysguy |
plus I've always found gitoroius a tad slow |
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* rangi |
hasnt noticed that |
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rangi |
course even if i did, id still use it, again for the obvious reasons :) |
| 20:33 |
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libsysguy |
do you run your own server or use theirs |
| 20:33 |
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rangi |
i push to theirs for my koha repos |
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datadoctor |
thanks rangi - infinite bass also works for library website redesign, also enjoying http://grooveshark.com/#!/albu[…]derground/6911211 |
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* rangi |
will check it out |
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rangi |
libsysguy: https://gitorious.org/koha-3-8-x |
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rangi |
and that gets pulled by launchpad into bzr |
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rangi |
and daily builds get built |
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rangi |
https://launchpad.net/~chris-b[…]/3.8.x-dailybuild |
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libsysguy |
you've got quite a few projects there rangi |
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rangi |
yup |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #206: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/206/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* veron: Bug 8873 - JavaScript error in Opac displaying tag cloud |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 8791: OPAC UNIMARC XSLT details: subject with subfield 3 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8873 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , JavaScript error in Opac displaying tag cloud |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8791 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , OPAC UNIMARC XSLT details : subject with subfield 3 |
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magnuse |
rangi: thanks for pushing bug 8793 - much appreciated! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8793 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Fix materialTypeCode/typeOf008 icons for NORMARC XSLT |
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rangi |
no worries |
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jcamins |
Have I mentioned recently how much I hate dealing with fork? |
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jcamins |
All I want is to daemonize the container process after I've gotten the name of the container it creates. |
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magnuse |
yeah, knife and spoon are so much better! |
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eythian |
it's all knifey spoony eh |
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eythian |
damn you magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
moahaha |
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magnuse |
and with that, i bid you all a good night or other time of the day |
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rangi |
cya magnuse |
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jcamins |
I don't get this. |
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jcamins |
Why do I have to explicitly close the file handle? |
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eythian |
bye magnuse |
| 21:31 |
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jcamins |
When run interactively, lxc-start-ephemeral -d returns all by itself. |
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jcamins |
How do I check if a string has non-zero length? |
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eythian |
in what language? |
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jcamins |
eythian: Perl. |
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eythian |
length($string) > 0 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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eythian |
also, if you're dealing with forking, I use Proc::Daemon |
| 21:37 |
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jcamins |
Right, that didn't work. |
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eythian |
https://gitorious.org/hashigo-[…]a_updater#line160 <-- that's how I do it |
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eythian |
(using the old API as it needs to run on Perl 5.8 |
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eythian |
) |
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jcamins |
Sadly it's not my program that's supposed to run in daemon mode. |
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eythian |
ah right |
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jcamins |
Right, I'm just going to do this wrong. |
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* jcamins |
tries to find the wrong way to do this. |
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jcamins |
Yay! It worked! |
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jcamins |
And as long as it doesn't report that it's running when it isn't, it even saves the entire error log. |
| 21:48 |
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jcamins |
Sort of. |
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eythian |
cool :) |
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jcamins |
Hey... I bet I could use expect with ssh. |
| 21:51 |
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jcamins |
I bet Perl even has an expect module. |
| 21:51 |
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eythian |
I think it does |
| 21:51 |
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eythian |
It's called Perl ;) |
| 21:51 |
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eythian |
(but I think there's a real one too) |
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jcamins |
eythian: I don't know how to use Expect, so if there's a built-in way to easily do interactive sessions, I'll use that instead. |
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jcamins |
Wait. |
| 21:52 |
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jcamins |
Net::SSH |
| 21:52 |
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jcamins |
There has to be such a thing. |
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eythian |
there is, though it's called Net::SSH just to be tricky :) |
| 21:53 |
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jcamins |
Net::SSH::Perl. |
| 21:54 |
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jcamins |
Ah, there's even a Net::SSH package. |
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jcamins |
Net::SSH::Perl is much nicer. |
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jcamins |
Net::SSH2 will do, I think. |
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eythian |
http://trypaper.com/ <-- could be interesting for libraries that send postal notices for things like overdues |
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jcamins |
Alas, Net::SSH2 does not work. |
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jcamins |
There's no way to capture exit status. |
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eythian |
that'd be annoying |
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jcamins |
CPAN it is. |
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santy_ |
hello, does anyone know if the zebra indexer works incrementally? |
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eythian |
it does. |
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santy_ |
so, everytime a record changes zebra indexes just that record |
| 23:10 |
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eythian |
yep. |
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santy_ |
and that indexing is issued by koha update routines or by zebra itself? |
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jcamins |
Good grief. |
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eythian |
It's done by a cron job that exports the data and gets zebra to index it (simply) |
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jcamins |
SSH + Perl = WORST COMBINATION EVER |
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eythian |
heh |
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santy_ |
so, if I manually change, say, a biblio record (not through the koha interface) that record will get incrementally indexed on the next cron job |
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jcamins |
No. |
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jcamins |
You must use the Koha interface. |
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santy_ |
aha, ok |
| 23:15 |
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jcamins |
Well, you must use the Koha libraries. |
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jcamins |
Interface is optional. |
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santy_ |
ok... the api, right? |
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jcamins |
Right. Net::OpenSSH wins. |
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jcamins |
I can install it. |
| 23:15 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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eythian |
santy_: no, koha makes a note that the record has changed |
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santy_ |
tell Koha libraries to index biblio number x |
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eythian |
if you manually change it that won't work |
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jcamins |
No, I mean you must use the Koha API to make changes. |
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eythian |
typically I just rebuild everything after modifying the database, though I also try to avoid modifying the database. |
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jcamins |
^^ exactly |
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santy_ |
ok, Ill study the api |
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santy_ |
but anyhow, eythian, where does koha make the note that the record has changed? |
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eythian |
in the database. I think the table is 'zebra_queue' or something like that. |
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santy_ |
all right, thanks a lot |
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eythian |
np |
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jcamins |
santy_: what are you trying to do? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Hello all! I'm back again! :/ |
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santy_ |
well, I have to integrate many branches from about 50 agencies into one central Koha instance, I have successfully managed to do it in a low level, but if Koha's API can be used for that I'll try it out with it, too. |
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santy_ |
I'm implementing syncronizers for ISIS (using perl), Koha (Java) and SIABUC8 |
| 23:23 |
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santy_ |
also java |
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jcamins |
santy_: good luck with that. |
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santy_ |
I had to use Java, otherwise I would have chosen perl or php |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Is the Koha Demo down at the moment? I can't seem to access it... |
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eythian |
which koha demo? |
| 23:24 |
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santy_ |
but everything goes at the low level |
| 23:24 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
the Bywater Demo for Staff Interface |
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santy_ |
Is there another way to sync two Koha branches of different servers? |
| 23:26 |
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santy_ |
thanks jcamins, I'll let you know how it went |
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jcamins |
santy_: database replication. |
| 23:27 |
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eythian |
sync or merge? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Hmm...all the other demos seem to be up and running... |
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santy_ |
but does db replication work on just a branch? |
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santy_ |
or is that global |
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santy_ |
like the whole-table replication mysql supports? |
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santy_ |
sync |
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santy_ |
the central Koha db will hold records from many branches, I would need to sync at the per branch level |
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jcamins |
That's not the way Koha was designed. |
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jcamins |
Use one Koha installation for all branches, if it's centralized, or use multiple Koha installations if it isn't. |
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jcamins |
Net::OpenSSH works, thank goodness. |
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santy_ |
ok, let say there are 3 gvt libraries. One of them, library A, has no ILS yet and would like to use Centralized Koha as their library mgmt system. Every record of library A would get the A-BRANCH name. Library B already has it's own Koha system running and would like to share their B-BRANCH records for them to be searchable in the centralized Koha, too. Their records would get the label B-BRANCH in the central Koha system. Library C has WINISIS, and they |
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santy_ |
would also like to share their records for them to be searchable in the central Koha system. Their records would get the label C-BRANCH in the central Koha. Library A would add and edit their records directly through central Kohas interface... no problem, Library B would sync its records somehow incrementally each time they are modified, added or deleted by some sort of daemon/webservice/syncmethod. Library C, would send their ISIS db everytime it gets |
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santy_ |
changed and a daemon would sync their records accordingly. Branches would have to be treated independently with one Koha database instance. Are you suggesting to create different Koha databases...? one per library/branch? Would central zebra still search among all Koha mysql instances? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Anyone wanna give me a hand with that report. Just have some questions on it. |
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mtj |
santy_, just use one koha and one db, anything more is just fail |
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santy_ |
thanks mtj. Koha has so much functionality, I'd just like to be sure there isn't already a special Koha API function for branch synchronization before diving into my development. |
