| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:21 |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. I will need to adjust release-tool.pl to test installing in a chroot, I think. |
| 00:33 |
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jcamins_away |
We have a bunch of db dependent tests that fail on a fresh install. |
| 00:35 |
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rangi |
even with all the sample data installed? |
| 00:35 |
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rangi |
because they are designed to work with a db, with all the sample data |
| 00:36 |
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jcamins_away |
Yes. |
| 00:37 |
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jcamins_away |
We have tests that require that you have bibs, and tests that require that you have issues. |
| 00:37 |
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jcamins_away |
(in the sense of books checked out, not problems;) |
| 00:39 |
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jcamins_away |
http://paste.koha-community.org/227 |
| 00:39 |
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jcamins |
00-strict is failing because we have utility scripts using odd packages. |
| 00:39 |
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jcamins |
Such as H:T:P. |
| 00:39 |
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jcamins |
HoldsQueue seems to require an issue in the database(?). |
| 00:39 |
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jcamins |
Haven't checked Koha yet. |
| 00:40 |
|
jcamins |
Serials requires a subscription. |
| 00:40 |
|
jcamins |
And VirtualShelves requires a bib. |
| 00:41 |
|
jcamins |
Oh, missing dependency on Koha. |
| 00:43 |
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rangi |
yeah holdsqueue there is a patch for |
| 00:43 |
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jcamins |
The issue with the Koha test was A) a missing dependency and B) a bizarre timezone mismatch. |
| 00:43 |
|
rangi |
that only just crept in |
| 00:44 |
|
rangi |
i put a blocker bug in for it |
| 00:44 |
|
rangi |
and yeah we should kill those old utility scripts |
| 00:45 |
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jcamins |
I think this may be another problem with HoldsQueue. |
| 00:45 |
|
rangi |
ah right |
| 00:45 |
|
pastebot |
"jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "DBD::mysql::st execute failed:" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/228 |
| 00:45 |
|
rangi |
hm yep looks like it |
| 00:46 |
|
rangi |
passing on jenkins tho, but there are some issue rows there |
| 00:46 |
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rangi |
the other bug is a package blocker, you cant currently package master |
| 00:48 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I noticed that. |
| 00:48 |
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jcamins |
I wandered off down this path when my attempt to build a package died dramatically. |
| 00:48 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 00:48 |
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jcamins |
Figured I might as well fix the problems. |
| 00:48 |
|
rangi |
i get emailed by launchpad every day, 3 times, as it fails to build for natty, oneiric, and precise |
| 00:50 |
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jcamins |
Argh! Nooooo!!!! |
| 00:50 |
|
jcamins |
nano came up instead of vim! |
| 00:50 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 00:52 |
|
jcamins |
Problem 1 patched. |
| 00:53 |
|
rangi |
did i show you this? |
| 00:53 |
|
rangi |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/gitbuilder/ |
| 00:53 |
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jcamins |
What does it do? |
| 00:54 |
|
rangi |
when jenkins fails |
| 00:54 |
|
rangi |
i can run ./start |
| 00:54 |
|
rangi |
and it builds, bisecting and testing until it finds the commit that broke the build |
| 00:54 |
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jcamins |
Oooh. |
| 00:54 |
|
jcamins |
Cool! |
| 00:55 |
|
rangi |
yup, so far its just doing make test, but ill extend it |
| 00:55 |
|
rangi |
for now tho, that is pretty handy |
| 00:59 |
|
pastebot |
"jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Test::Strict failures" (69 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/229 |
| 01:00 |
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rangi |
yeah, i vote we move them to a deprecated dir, or just git rm them |
| 01:01 |
|
rangi |
specially the zebraqueue_daemon |
| 01:01 |
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jcamins |
Well, zebraqueue_daemon can just be killed. |
| 01:13 |
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| 01:28 |
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| 01:55 |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. There's already a patch for zebraqueue_daemon. |
| 01:55 |
|
jcamins_away |
bug 8519 |
| 01:55 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup |
| 01:55 |
|
rangi |
ahh just awaiting qa |
| 02:06 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 02:06 |
|
jcamins |
Need to do 3.6.x. |
| 02:07 |
|
jcamins |
At this point I don't really see much point in 3.6-testing. |
| 02:07 |
|
jcamins |
There are so few relevant patches now. |
| 02:09 |
|
rangi |
yeah |
| 02:13 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #199 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:16 |
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jcamins |
It seems to me that pbuilder should provide all the tools necessary for testing Koha installs in a chroot. |
| 02:16 |
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jcamins |
I mean, pbuilder+all my tools for testing Koha installs. |
| 02:26 |
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| 02:27 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! Successfully built packages for 3.6.9 on the new test server. |
| 02:27 |
|
rangi |
sweet' |
| 02:27 |
|
user110 |
cool |
| 02:50 |
|
user110 |
sleep |
| 02:51 |
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| 02:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #199: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/199/ |
| 02:52 |
|
jenkins_koha |
robin: Bug 8806 - [3.8.x] Changelog updates, dependencies |
| 02:52 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8806 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Debian packaging updates |
| 03:07 |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 03:52 |
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| 03:53 |
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mib_uv3cxf |
hi |
| 04:02 |
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eythian |
bye |
| 04:16 |
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| 04:19 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 04:34 |
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* wajasu |
ok i got my 3.0 running against pre-3.10 master. i had about 15000 biblios, and deleted the machine genrated authority records. |
| 04:34 |
|
wajasu |
i have AutoAddAuthorities and allow... and i ran link_bibs_to_authorities. |
| 04:35 |
|
wajasu |
rebuilt the zebra index between the steps. |
| 04:35 |
|
wajasu |
now i am testing the RLIN based links |
| 04:35 |
|
wajasu |
so i am hoping i can go with that instead of the subject tracings. |
| 04:36 |
|
wajasu |
i have about 50000 authority records generated now. |
| 04:37 |
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wajasu |
clikcing on subject headings gives me 2 links at most, but will investigate if it should be more for some subjects. |
| 04:39 |
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| 04:39 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 04:39 |
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mtompset |
cait: Are you here? |
| 04:40 |
|
wajasu |
i do have an issue. when i search for Hans Kung, i select the incarnation of God, and pull up the MARC view in the staff client. i select tab 2, and the uniform title has a name as alink. |
| 04:40 |
|
wajasu |
the link always seems to be wrong. |
| 04:41 |
|
wajasu |
the link is of the format: http://192.168.122.28:8080/cgi[…]hwerdung%20Gottes. |
| 04:41 |
|
wajasu |
which always give an error page. |
| 04:41 |
|
cait |
not really :) |
| 04:41 |
|
cait |
too early still |
| 04:42 |
|
wajasu |
no pizza left? |
| 04:42 |
|
cait |
wajasu: hmm |
| 04:42 |
|
cait |
and there is a $9 in the record? |
| 04:43 |
|
wajasu |
i can't find one. |
| 04:43 |
|
wajasu |
wait. let me edit |
| 04:45 |
|
wajasu |
yes two $9 entries in the [1] tab personal names. |
| 04:45 |
|
wajasu |
the RLIN "Auth" links work, its just the uniform titles that don't |
| 04:46 |
|
cait |
so no rlin for the uniform title? |
| 04:47 |
|
wajasu |
none. in 240 |
| 04:50 |
|
wajasu |
so far, all my uniform titles have links resulting in a an error. |
| 04:50 |
|
cait |
@marc 240 |
| 04:50 |
|
huginn |
cait: The uniform title for an item when the bibliographic description is entered under a main entry field that contains a personal (field 100), corporate (110), or meeting (111) name. [a,d,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,6,8] |
| 04:51 |
|
wajasu |
looking in ./koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/catalogue, maybe we are missing a template inthe url from there. |
| 04:53 |
|
wajasu |
where we would supply the Menschwerdung%20Gottes unitform title 240a |
| 04:53 |
|
cait |
? |
| 04:54 |
|
wajasu |
i wonder if the url that is generating the link is correct? |
| 04:54 |
|
cait |
sorry, I can't follow |
| 04:54 |
|
cait |
might be the time |
| 04:55 |
|
wajasu |
240a has a itle that is a hyperlink continaing: http://192.168.122.28:8080/cgi[…]hwerdung%20Gottes. |
| 04:55 |
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mtompset |
cait: You're javascript thought was right. |
| 04:55 |
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wajasu |
whic gives an error page |
| 04:56 |
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wajasu |
if thats supposed to link to some sort of person or somethings else, is that even a typical URL that you've seen before. maybe its misformatted. |
| 04:58 |
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wajasu |
if someone can find a book with 240a, and look to see if they have a link, and compare the format, or if its broke for them, then i might have a lead |
| 05:01 |
|
wajasu |
i'll have to take up this mystery up in about 13 hours. |
| 05:02 |
|
wajasu |
but aleast i've got working $9 links now. |
| 05:04 |
|
cait |
wajasu: jcamins_away will know what to do :) |
| 05:05 |
|
wajasu |
yeah. |
| 05:06 |
|
wajasu |
have a great day. |
| 05:06 |
|
cait |
thx and have a good evening/night |
| 05:24 |
|
* mtompset |
sighs and grumbles, "How am I supposed to debug this problem?!" |
| 05:26 |
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mtompset |
var clone = original.cloneNode(true); |
| 05:26 |
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mtompset |
TypeError: original is null. |
| 05:33 |
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| 05:41 |
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mtompset |
OH MY! Is it stale JS/CSS issues?! |
| 05:42 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 05:51 |
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mtompset |
ARG! it was. |
| 05:57 |
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| 05:58 |
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magnuse |
mtompset: at least it wasn's something else ;-) |
| 06:02 |
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mtompset |
I suppose, but those kinds of errors drive you crazy, because a simple reload doesn't get rid of them. |
| 06:05 |
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mtj |
… just disable caching |
| 06:06 |
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mtj |
else, continue to drive yourself batshit whilst testing |
| 06:13 |
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Oak |
such eloquence mtj |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
Oak. |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
;) |
| 06:13 |
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Oak |
cait :) |
| 06:13 |
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Oak |
magnuse |
| 06:14 |
|
Oak |
hello mtompset |
| 06:14 |
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mtompset |
greetings, Oak. |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
hi mtj :) |
| 06:15 |
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mtompset |
glad you liked the reworked lyrics. :) |
| 06:15 |
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Oak |
:) yup |
| 06:17 |
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mtompset |
mtj, this wasn't a test environment. This was a live enviroment. |
| 06:18 |
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mtompset |
However, there were JS changes between 3.6.3 and 3.8.5 :) |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
| 06:35 |
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| 06:35 |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
| 06:35 |
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mtompset |
salut, alex_a. :) |
| 06:35 |
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marcelr |
hi mtompset |
| 06:36 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, marcelr, laurence, et sophie_m. |
| 06:37 |
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laurence |
hi mtompset |
| 06:39 |
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sophie_m |
hi mtompset |
| 06:40 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 06:40 |
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cait |
hi marcelr :) |
| 06:41 |
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cait |
marcelr: reading your mail now - will reply from work later! |
| 06:42 |
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marcelr |
hi cait :) |
| 06:43 |
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mtj |
mtompset, it makes no difference what 'enviroment' it is, did you miss my advice? |
| 06:44 |
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mtompset |
turn off caching. |
| 06:44 |
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mtompset |
I have done so on my browser now, and have advised my colleagues to do likewise. |
| 06:49 |
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cait |
marcelr: ok, answered now :) and now it't time to get to work - bye all! |
| 06:51 |
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mtj |
mtompset, woah!, i didnt mean for everyone |
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| 06:52 |
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mtompset |
Well, I may not be around to solve problems in the future. I need something that will just work period forever. |
| 06:53 |
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mtompset |
Actually, my first recommendation was purposefully empty the cache on upgrades. |
| 06:53 |
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mtompset |
But that requires they remember to do it. |
| 06:53 |
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mtj |
ok, your call... |
| 06:54 |
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mtompset |
I know it is over-kill and their are negative ramifications (like slower page loads in general), but given relatively good connectivity... I don't think that is an issue. |
| 06:55 |
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mtj |
mtompset -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W[…]Bypass_your_cache |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 06:57 |
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wahanui |
salut, reiveune |
| 06:58 |
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asaurat |
hi |
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wahanui |
hi, asaurat |
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tsiliha |
hello |
| 07:08 |
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wahanui |
privet, tsiliha |
| 07:09 |
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tsiliha |
does anyone know how to upgrade koha from 3.4.0 to 3.4.8? I have debian. And the second question is about database, if there is any problem after upgrade it. |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 07:12 |
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mtompset |
tsiliha: Why would you upgrade to 3.4.8? Why not 3.8.5? |
| 07:13 |
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mtj |
go on, give a little more info... |
| 07:13 |
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tsiliha |
because may have some problem with database |
| 07:14 |
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tsiliha |
is there safe way that database that exist in koha 3.4.0 will work in 3.8.5 with export mysql and import it in new koha stable version? |
| 07:14 |
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drojf |
tsiliha: did you try what i proposed yesterday? |
| 07:15 |
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mtj |
tsiliha, if you are going to upgrade, you should upgrade to the latest version of Koha |
| 07:15 |
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tsiliha |
<drojf> not yet |
| 07:17 |
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mtj |
tsiliha, many people have upgraded from 3.4 to 3.8 |
| 07:19 |
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tsiliha |
the upgrade of software i think it is the easy part. What about database? |
| 07:19 |
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mtompset |
So perhaps the best course of action for you, tsiliha, is to take a backup of your database. And try it. If you have problems while trying it, come back and ask questions. :) |
| 07:19 |
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mtompset |
tsiliha: The database will upgrade when you access it via the staff interface. |
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mtompset |
Everyone had a good day (24 hours), I'll be back later. |
| 07:47 |
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mtompset |
Everyone have a good day (24 hours), I'll be back later. |
| 07:53 |
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rangi |
evening |
| 07:57 |
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mtj |
heya chris |
| 07:58 |
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mtj |
anyone seen this before on master? |
| 07:58 |
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mtj |
updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Unknown or incorrect time zone: 'Pacific/Auckland' at /home/mason/git/head/C4/Context.pm line 766. |
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magnuse |
mtj: nope |
| 08:01 |
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mtj |
do i have a too-old version of some date module |
| 08:02 |
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mtj |
ooh, i might know |
| 08:03 |
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magnuse |
mtj: DBD has decided you need to move to another timezone? |
| 08:04 |
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drojf |
mtj: rangi and jcamins_away talked about that i think |
| 08:04 |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
| 08:05 |
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drojf |
mtj: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-10-11#i_1102388 |
| 08:07 |
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rangi |
ah naw thats a different thing |
| 08:07 |
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drojf |
ok |
| 08:07 |
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rangi |
that was running a test |
| 08:07 |
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mtj |
bbiab |
| 08:09 |
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rangi |
it's just mysql doesn't like that as a timezone |
| 08:09 |
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rangi |
its harmless |
| 08:09 |
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rangi |
SET time_zone = "$tz" |
| 08:16 |
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magnuse |
mysql doesn't approve of bucklame? |
| 08:16 |
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rangi |
smart of it |
| 08:16 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 08:25 |
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drojf |
thanks german railways for letting me click through all your forms, then sending me an error when i try to pay and now not have a ticket available for the price that the one in my cart had minutes ago. sure, i'd like to pay 15 euro more for a different conection that is inconveniently timed |
| 08:25 |
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rangi |
heh |
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WaqarAzeem |
Hello! can anyone let me know how can i debug or at least generate the Log file from my .pl scripts. |
| 08:38 |
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drojf |
car sharing it is… in your face DB |
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Viktor |
Hi! Taking a chance here - is anyone familiar with the SOLR-dev online? |
| 08:56 |
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drojf |
hej Viktor |
| 08:56 |
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drojf |
Viktor: shout paul_p three times and see what happens |
| 08:57 |
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Viktor |
Sorry to just pop in with questions like this - will try to keep up a social presence also in the future :) |
| 08:57 |
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paul_p |
hi Viktor |
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Viktor |
:) drojf |
| 08:57 |
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drojf |
oh look it worked with just one mention. hey paul_p ;) |
| 08:58 |
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paul_p |
drojf i'm back with xchat. I couldn't explain thunderbird chat module that he should notify any personal yelling. |
| 08:58 |
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Viktor |
I´m talking to the biggest library school of sweden on monday and they are interested in having their students being able to fool around with the indexing. |
| 08:58 |
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drojf |
paul_p: weird, that is an integral part of irc as i use it |
| 08:58 |
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paul_p |
Viktor = for Solr questions , you should ask clrh (but she's at a conference today) |
| 08:59 |
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paul_p |
drojf = yep. I'm sure it will be for next release ! |
| 08:59 |
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Viktor |
If I remember correctly SOLR allows more "hands on" work with indexing in a graphical interface. While Zebra is CLI only. |
| 08:59 |
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Viktor |
Thanks paul_p |
| 08:59 |
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Viktor |
and drojf |
| 09:00 |
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Viktor |
I'll try to get a hold of her tomorrow or during the weekend. |
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paul_p |
Viktor = you're right. With koha/solr, you can define your indexes in Koha directly |
| 09:01 |
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Viktor |
That is great! paul_p |
| 09:02 |
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Viktor |
Is it installed in the standard installations nowdays? I have a private test-install from magnuse. I think it´s installed from the Debian package. |
| 09:05 |
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| 09:06 |
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Viktor |
Good question drojf - I have done some Koha-stuff while not working at my regular job and had to strike a balance. |
| 09:06 |
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Viktor |
Why not have a "This is me as a part of the Koha-community" card - while also being clear with your official position at the univ? |
| 09:06 |
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magnuse |
hiya Viktor |
| 09:06 |
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rangi |
drojf: seems fine to me |
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magnuse |
Viktor: yeah, the experimental solr stuff will be in 3.10 i think, your install is 3.8.5 |
| 09:08 |
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kf |
hi all :) |
| 09:08 |
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rangi |
hi kf |
| 09:08 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: see bug 8233 |
| 09:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 major, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else |
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magnuse |
that is "pushed to master" and master = what will become 3.10 |
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drojf |
good morning her highness, the managerin of quality assurance, kf |
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magnuse |
Viktor: ses also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
good morning to you too :) |
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drojf |
Viktor and rangi: yes something about community (having the url of koha-community.org on it somehow too would have the nice effect of people not googleing the wrong website). i just would not want to rase the idea that "i make koha" or "i work for the koha company". our concept of development is quite strange to many people here. |
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drojf |
s/rase/raise |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
you could get |
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rangi |
Bug Wrangler for version 3.12 |
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rangi |
Member of the Koha Community (url) |
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drojf |
kf: do we have an official translation for "bug wrangler"? ;) |
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drojf |
Viktor: where is the library school you were talking about? |
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* magnuse |
thinks Viktor should get a better client than mibbit, if he wants to hang out ;-) |
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drojf |
lol |
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* drojf |
hands Viktor the duct tape |
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kf |
sorry afk a lot today |
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kf |
no I don't think we have a translation |
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magnuse |
Viktor: if you want to hang out you might want to consider an irc client that does not time out ;-) |
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jiwaji |
how to see my opac in koha 3.06 |
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drojf |
wut? |
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* drojf |
wanders off |
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magnuse |
that was quick :-) |
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drojf |
to the drojf mobile! |
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drojf |
(aka berlin underground) |
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WaqarAzeem |
Is there any way to print the variable values somewhere direcly from .pl files (currently what i am doing is making a string 'my strdebug' and passing it to the template). Any better alternative to put the variable values in a file or on the browser (error like 500). |
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WaqarAzeem |
for debugging |
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kf_afk |
coworkers++ |
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kf_afk |
wb drojf :) |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha. |
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jcamins |
Viktor: one point about Solr: it supports only bibs. |
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kf_afk |
jcamins: only bibs? no items or no authorities? |
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jcamins |
kf_afk: well, items are part of bibs, indexing-wise. |
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jcamins |
No authorities. |
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wahanui |
i think no authorities is added |
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kf_afk |
ah |
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drojf |
meh |
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jcamins |
drojf: that good? |
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drojf |
jcamins: using a windows computer is always fun. had a fight with the encryption plugin |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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kf |
but you won :) |
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magnuse |
jcamins: anyone got any plans for indexing authorities with solr? |
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jcamins |
magnuse: as it happens, someone does. There's this search rewrite getting started that will add that. ;) |
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magnuse |
ooh, cool :-) |
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kf |
hm this search rewrite? |
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kf |
search rewrite? |
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wahanui |
i think search rewrite is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
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jcamins |
That's the one! |
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jcamins |
1(h) |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
the numbering is confusing me |
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jcamins |
Yes, the wiki insists on adding its own. |
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* jcamins |
didn't know it would do that. |
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kf |
there is no h? |
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kf |
only g? |
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kf |
oh |
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jcamins |
I just noticed that I had it misnumbered and corrected it. |
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kf |
after the roman numbers |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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jcamins |
My apt repo is working! |
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kf |
yay :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard. |
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oleonard |
Hi |
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mtompset |
Have you topic changing powers? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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mtompset |
The meeting is past, we know the new date and time. :) |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 7 November 2012 2:00 UTC |
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oleonard |
wiki says you're flying to Canada mtompset--your job in Philippines done? |
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mtompset |
My term in the Philippines is complete. |
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mtompset |
However, that doesn't mean I won't be working still on Koha. |
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mtompset |
It just is dependent on raising enough financial partners. |
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mtompset |
Though, Koha is not the only project I work on. |
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* magnuse |
gets curious |
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* magnuse |
hopes mtompset will return to koha quickly then :-) |
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mtompset |
What country are you in magnuse? ;) |
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magnuse |
mtompset: norway |
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mtompset |
magnuse: I have friends in Norway who are also Wycliffe members. :) |
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magnuse |
cool |
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mtompset |
I met them while studying at CanIL. |
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mtompset |
www.canil.ca |
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mtompset |
Going to miss Christmas in the Philippines with my only surviving parent (mother-in-law). :( |
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mtompset |
All hail the Translation Manager. ;) |
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magnuse |
o/ |
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druthb |
:P |
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druthb |
Bah. |
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mtompset |
Oooo... bug 1918 if it gets live may address the browser cache headache I hit yesterday. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1918 enhancement, P3, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , Minify JavaScript and CSS |
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kf |
hi ms translation manager :) |
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oleonard |
Why mtompset? |
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mtompset |
Wouldn't that help solve stale javascript/css? |
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oleonard |
I don't see how it would mtompset. It's about minifying the file sent to your browser, but your browser would still cache it |
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oleonard |
What is an OAI set? |
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mtompset |
Open Archives Initiative? Maybe this will help? https://wiki.duraspace.org/dis[…]ts+Generalisation |
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mtompset |
(I'm guessing. I don't know) |
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kf |
oleonard: hm kind of a part of your collection |
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kf |
oleonard: you can harvest records with oai - you can harvest all of them or you can define sets |
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kf |
like let people harvest all thesis records for a central server |
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oleonard |
So it's a way to share Koha data with external applications? |
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kf |
oai can not really search, but it can work with those sets or the creation/change dates of records |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
I asked magnuse to explain it to me a bit ago :) |
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kf |
because people at the workshop had asked bout it |
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kf |
oleonard: why are you asking? |
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magnuse |
oleonard: OAI-PMH is "a way to share Koha data with external applications" |
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kf |
the interface for deifning sets could use some of your magic :) |
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oleonard |
Just what I'm doing kf |
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kf |
nice!! |
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oleonard |
That's why I'm wondering about it |
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kf |
oleonard++ |
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magnuse |
OAI sets lets you define subsets of your data to share |
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magnuse |
so as kf said, one set could be the records for all the theses in your catalogue |
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oleonard |
I wonder if the description field is hidden by default in the interface because one should not submit an empty value or if that's just for sparkle. |
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magnuse |
or all the dvds or all the printed books or... |
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drojf |
and again one of the many questionmarks about koha stuff (from the bottom of my list) solved |
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drojf |
#koha++ |
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druthb |
@karma |
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huginn |
druthb: Highest karma: "rangi" (672), "oleonard" (566), and "jcamins" (424). Lowest karma: "<!" (-111), "failed" (-94), and "-" (-66). You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 2258. |
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druthb |
@most increased |
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huginn |
druthb: "rangi": 677, "oleonard": 571, "jcamins": 426, "wizzyrea": 352, "cait": 325, "gmcharlt": 324, "chris_n": 309, "paul_p": 258, "sekjal": 245, "nengard": 228, "kf": 214, "magnuse": 182, "slef": 163, "druthb": 148, "eythian": 139, "fredericd": 89, "hdl": 69, "biblibre": 65, "marcelr": 64, "hdl_laptop": 60, "mveron": 54, "mtj": 54, "jwagner": 54, "thd": 47, and "kmkale": 46 |
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oleonard |
magnuse: Are the "setSpec" and "setName" values arbitrary? Identifiers you give to the external application? |
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magnuse |
um, let me check |
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magnuse |
oleonard: the official definitions are here: http://www.openarchives.org/OA[…]protocol.html#Set |
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magnuse |
setname is just a name, at least |
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magnuse |
yeah, looks like setSpec is pretty arbitrary too |
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magnuse |
it's just an id |
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oleonard |
Do you know if the description field is internal to Koha or used by OAI? I'm wondering why one can add multiple descriptions |
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magnuse |
"a setDescription -- an optional and repeatable container" |
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magnuse |
the standard says it should be repeatble |
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magnuse |
and it's used by oai |
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oleonard |
Thanks magnuse, my page-scanning isn't working well this morning |
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magnuse |
np oleonard |
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jcamins |
paul_p: have you figured out how to include referrer information in your Plack logs? |
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paul_p |
good morning Release Manager ;-) |
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paul_p |
jcamins to answer your question = nope |
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* magnuse |
wishes the functionality in reports/guided_reports.pl was nicely encapsulated in subroutines ;-) |
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oleonard |
If wishes were horses guided reports would be the American west in the 1800s. |
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magnuse |
huh? :-) |
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oleonard |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I[…]eggars_would_ride |
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magnuse |
ah |
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magnuse |
well, maybe tomorrow, now it's time to try and catch some sun before it (oai) sets |
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kf |
lol |
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drojf |
you can harvest sun with OAI? |
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jcamins |
drojf: OAI comes from "phOtovoltAIc." |
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trea |
heh |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012) |
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gmcharlt |
gaahh! |
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jcamins |
Oh my god- it's full of stars! |
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* wizzyrea |
laughs |
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* jcamins |
knew someone would appreciate the joke. |
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jcamins |
Bad as it was. |
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wizzyrea |
also good <time of day> |
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mtompset |
Actually, that reminds me of a cover photo of a friend recently. Something about a being that stared back in hopes of finding the origin of the universe and it triggered the creation of the multiverses. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, wizzyrea. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, trea edveal rambutan and NateC too. :) |
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NateC |
Hiya! :D |
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wizzyrea |
phew. updates took forever :) |
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edveal |
Hello |
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wahanui |
hello, edveal |
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trea |
hey mtompset |
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wahanui |
i guess mtompset is disliking the silent warnings flooding his error logs. |
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mtompset |
Why does 'hey <name>' trigger the same thing as '<name>?' ? |
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mtompset |
updates, wizzyrea? What updates? |
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druthb |
wahanui: edveal? |
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wahanui |
i heard edveal was good friends with Ruth (DRuth) and have been for years. |
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druthb |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
computer updates |
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edveal |
:) |
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mtompset |
Ah... not windows updates, I hope. Those are painful. :) |
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druthb |
wahanui: druthb? |
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wahanui |
you are http://about.me/druthb |
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druthb |
I really need a new picture. hm. |
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wizzyrea |
naw |
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druthb |
yeah...with the new do! :D |
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wizzyrea |
ohh good pt |
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rambutan |
mtompset: morning |
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mtompset |
Depends on where you are, but yes it is somewhere, rambutan. :) |
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wizzyrea |
rambutan is in my timezone - it's morning. |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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rambutan |
there you go. morning has a majority, must be right |
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wizzyrea |
(i mean - it's morning here) |
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wizzyrea |
never min.d |
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libsysguy1 |
wizzyrea can you kick libsysguy |
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libsysguy1 |
my power cut out |
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jcamins |
Your power cut out? |
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libsysguy1 |
yeah the power went out and reset everything |
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libsysguy was kicked by wizzyrea: libsysguy |
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libsysguy1 |
so when it came back |
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wizzyrea |
u got it :) |
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libsysguy1 |
I was now libsysguy1 |
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wizzyrea |
man I don't get to do that very often :D |
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jcamins |
Your power went out at 9:40am on a Thursday? |
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libsysguy1 |
yeah…welcome to texas |
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libsysguy1 |
the grids get stressed down here |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: did you know you can just change your nick? |
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libsysguy |
it wouldn't let it |
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libsysguy |
me* |
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libsysguy |
it said it was already in use |
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wizzyrea |
oh, well I kicked you but you were still connected to the server I bet |
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rambutan |
squirrel chewed a our power lines out yesterday. We had four big bucket-lift power trucks out here--power was out for 3 hours |
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wizzyrea |
I can't kick you from the server entirely |
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liw |
using the NickServ service on OFTC allows you to register a nick and identify yourself to NickServ and then ask NickServ kick out your nick if you get disconnected and reconnect with a diffent nick |
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jcamins |
rambutan: a squirrel? How did it survive long enough to chew through? |
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libsysguy |
liw I was trying to identify |
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jcamins |
That reminds me. I need to identify this server to Nickserv. |
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libsysguy |
but i couldn't remember the command |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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liw |
libsysguy, /msg NickServ help :) |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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rambutan |
jcamins: usually they get french fried immediately (it's happened a couple of times), but this time apparently they weren't touching a ground wire, so we didn't see any corpses. |
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jcamins |
Huh. |
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libsysguy |
jcamins he's talking about cooking squirrels |
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libsysguy |
via power lines |
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libsysguy |
and the power going out |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I know. |
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wizzyrea |
i am trying so hard to not make a joke about missouri people eating squirrel. |
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libsysguy |
oh |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I would've thought that the squirrel would hit the ground wire at some point. |
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wizzyrea |
because I was born in missouri |
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wizzyrea |
but it would be SO FUNNY. |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Did you know all the jokes Kansans say about Missouri Ohioans tell about West Virginia? |
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wizzyrea |
I didn't! |
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wizzyrea |
but that is awesome. |
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oleonard |
I think Missouri is ahead though, having both Kansas City (MO) and St. Louis. |
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oleonard |
Sorry WV. |
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libsysguy |
for all the dub drake fans http://soundcloud.com/nerouk/forever-nero-remix |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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rambutan |
I saw the Txtr Beagls in the news recently. Bare bones, but they might be great for checking out ereaders to patrons--comparable in many ways to Playaways |
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rambutan |
maybe cait has some pre-production samples of the Txtr Beagle? |
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rambutan |
@later tell cait maybe cait has some pre-production samples of the Txtr Beagle? |
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huginn |
rambutan: The operation succeeded. |
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kf |
rambutan: why me? |
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* kf |
is cait |
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kf |
I am not working for bywater if that is about the message earlier :) |
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rambutan |
German company? txtr, Rosenthaler Strasse 13, Berlin 10119, Germany |
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kf |
aah |
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kf |
maybe ask droifj then - he is in the same city at least :) |
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rambutan |
ok, I'll ping him later |
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oleonard |
I thought everyone in Germany with a computer got pre-production models of computer-related gadgets? |
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mtompset |
Well, I think that's my signal to go to bed. |
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rambutan |
especially those working in library-associated organizatioins? |
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oleonard |
Yeah, those people usually get two |
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mtompset |
Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone. |
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rambutan |
When I go to trade shows I get all kinds and colors of pencils and sometimes pens. |
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kf |
rambutan: it's unlikely he knows something rally |
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kf |
like oleonard said, we don't get any gadgets :( |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #54: "<@gmcharlt> from my POV, bug wrangling expands to fill all available volunteers" (added by jwagner at 08:05 PM, February 09, 2010) |
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kf |
bye all :) |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn |
druthb: Quote #177: "oleonard: If Buck Rogers used IRC he'd put bip on Twiki and tell Twiki to never sleep." (added by wizzyrea at 04:43 PM, January 10, 2012) |
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libsysguy |
whoa oleonard have you noticed the jqueryui page |
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oleonard |
Yup |
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libsysguy |
it has a very flat feel now |
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drojf |
ev'nin' |
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libsysguy |
so it is |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #136: "<sekjal> MARC. Must. Die!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:18 PM, May 26, 2011) |
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drojf |
that poor marc guy |
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drojf |
hated by everyone |
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drojf |
@quote random |
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huginn |
drojf: Quote #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;)" (added by chris at 12:50 PM, June 12, 2009) |
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drojf |
what happened to the mailing list? i did not get anything in > 9 hours. koha problems solved world wide? |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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druthb |
hi, cait. :) |
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cait |
hi druthb :) |
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drojf |
hey cait |
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cait |
hi drojf :) |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Germany is 8.8°C (8:00 PM CEST on October 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.6°C (8:10 PM CEST on October 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder 66046 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 21.6°C (1:19 PM CDT on October 11, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
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drojf |
slef: i think you had vectorized koha logos ready? if that's correct, are they available somewhere? |
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drojf |
cait: do you use a translated version of the koha logo catch phrase? |
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drojf |
@later tell slef i think you had vectorized koha logos ready? if that's correct, are they available somewhere? |
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huginn |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
drojf: /misc/interface_customization |
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drojf |
ah cool, thanks oleonard. looking in the source was too obvious :) |
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oleonard |
I suppose we could do something like koha-log-[% lang %].png ? |
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jcamins_away |
The Koha logo has a catchphrase? |
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cait |
drojf: our first flyer had one |
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drojf |
jcamins_away: free software library system. open source library system … |
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cait |
have to be careful to not make it too long |
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cait |
freies bibliothekssystem or Open-Source-Bibliotheksmanagementsystem ? |
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drojf |
cait: i was thinking "Freies Bibliothekssystem" |
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drojf |
mine will be free, not open source ;) |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: oh, I never noticed that. |
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cait |
drojf: thought so :) was trying to rmember what I created back then |
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drojf |
oleonard: i was thinking about propaganda material ;) but it would be cool to have it change in the software too actually |
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drojf |
cait: "Open-Source-Bibliotheksmanagementsystem" is horrible ;) |
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cait |
did it on purpose :) |
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cait |
yes, it's horrible |
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cait |
and it will never fit down there in a readable size |
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drojf |
depends on how big the rest is. if you would print it on a hot-air balloon… |
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cait |
heh |
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drojf |
"quelloffenes bibliotheksverwaltungssystem mit freier lizenz" |
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cait |
hehe |
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drojf |
magnuse even has "the free library system" in norwegian. "Das freie Bibliothekssystem". hm |
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drojf |
mveron and mbalmer have "open source bibliothekssystem" |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
it should be open-source-bibliothekssystem according to duden |
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cait |
if you mix german and english you have to put in - |
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drojf |
maybe not in swiss german :D |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
:) |
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drojf |
oh its open-source bibliothekssystem really |
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jcamins |
cait: your GND data has shaken out a bug in some of the authority code. Well done. |
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cait |
excellent! |
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jcamins |
cait: also, your GND data is absurd. |
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cait |
you told me so before |
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cait |
but it shkes out bugs :P |
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jcamins |
It does. |
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drojf |
GND as worst case scenario? |
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cait |
I didn't say that. |
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jcamins |
drojf: nearly. |
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cait |
it's has lots of interesting information |
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jcamins |
It does. |
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cait |
the problem is the data structure is a bit germany specific |
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jcamins |
It has great information. |
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drojf |
germans wouldn't do anything crazy… |
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jcamins |
It's just entered in a way as to be utterly useless to anyone who isn't at the DNB. |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
that sounds very german |
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jcamins |
drojf: you'd think if they were going to do something crazy that made their authorities incompatible with everyone else that they'd at least use a format that wasn't MARC, wouldn't you? |
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drojf |
they don't want to do something completely different, they only want you to follow the way they do it :P |
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oleonard |
Fans of OAI can now test Bug 8906 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Improve OAI management interface |
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jcamins |
How do I run the installer in French? |
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drojf |
jcamins: install french language before running the installer? |
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jcamins |
drojf: that's what I'm trying. |
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jcamins |
Just wanted confirmation that there wasn't a special step required. |
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cait |
nope |
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cait |
that's all |
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drojf |
not that i know. i don't think it would be different from installing in any other non-english language |
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cait |
oleonard++ :) |
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jcamins |
Bother. |
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jcamins |
I'm caught in a loop. |
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jcamins |
Hooray! |
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jcamins |
I escaped! |
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cait |
heh |
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jcamins |
I had to restart Plack, though, which seems less than optimal. |
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jcamins |
There are no sample branches for French UNIMARC? |
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cait |
don't know |
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jcamins |
It would seem not. |
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drojf |
i thought i had seen data for that somewhere |
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drojf |
maybe on the wiki or bugzilla? |
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jcamins |
drojf: now that I think about it, I recall a conversation about a test always failing because French UNIMARC didn't have sample branches. |
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jcamins |
I need some UNIMARC data. |
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drojf |
ah, i was probably thinking about the sandbox data |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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jcamins |
I don't like the sandbox UNIMARC data. |
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drojf |
i was thinking of branch data actually, but it seems there is everything in one sql file |
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jcamins |
Maybe I can persuade Joubu to share the data he uses for testing. |
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drojf |
maybe one day someone gets really bored and makes sample data for the installer from that |
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jcamins |
Or just copies the sample branches from English UNIMARC. :P |
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jcamins |
*MARC21 |
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jcamins |
Reindexing 213k authorities. |
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oleonard |
toss in a few accents jcamins and no one will be the wiser |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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drojf |
lol |
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cait |
name them after french food ? :) |
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drojf |
les freedom fries |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]n-levitate-a.html |
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cait |
baguette has a good dvd collection I heard |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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oleonard |
That is a tiny tiny companion cube wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
but it's SO CUTE |
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jcamins |
I guess I should make Zebra and Plack start automatically. |
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oleonard |
Cute? You're talking to the guy who disposed of his weighted companion cube in record time. |
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wizzyrea |
hehehehehehehe |
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oleonard |
8) |
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cait |
ok, I see the cube |
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cait |
but what exactly is it? |
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wizzyrea |
it's from a game - Portal |
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cait |
oh |
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wizzyrea |
i know oleonard played it |
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jcamins |
Okay... this is annoying. |
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jcamins |
My Plack startup script is incompatible with init. |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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jcamins |
I have working init scripts. |
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cait |
yay :) |
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oleonard |
See y'all later |
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drojf |
my_internet-- |
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drojf |
spontaneously update openwrt on my rooter to a beta version at night? sounds reasonable |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
Absolutely. |
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drojf |
" * Vastly improved ath9k driver stability and performance" sounds what i need |
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jcamins |
*click* |
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drojf |
sounds like |
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jcamins |
drojf's connection drops. |
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drojf |
:) |
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drojf |
i remember i waited longish before the last update and it was ridiculously easy and fast in hindsight |
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* jcamins |
will bid you goodnight before you start the update. |
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drojf |
"If your attempt to install OpenWrt fails, generic.debrick could help you. " now we're talking… |
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drojf |
well, why not. goodbye #koha ;) |
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drojf |
see you soonish. or, one day |
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drojf |
could have turned out worse |
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jcamins |
That was it? |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
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jcamins |
Color me impressed. |
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drojf |
and for all our kids at the screens: don#t do this at home |
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drojf |
yes i felt the same last time :) |
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cait |
hm? |
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drojf |
cait: ? |
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jcamins |
cait: that drojf just flashed his router that quickly. |
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drojf |
i even spent half the time finding the checksum to compare |
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cait |
ah right |
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drojf |
looking good so far |
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drojf |
openwrt++ |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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rambutan |
@mark 001 |
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huginn |
rambutan: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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rambutan |
wahanui marc 001 |
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wahanui |
rambutan: excuse me? |
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jcamins |
@marc 001 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] |
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rambutan |
tnx |
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rambutan |
well, heck I misspelled "marc" the first time |
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rambutan |
my outsider observation on lib school is that you have to have an MLS just to be called a librarian. In business terms, that's a barrier to entry |
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rambutan |
on the other hand, you need an MLS to understand marc |
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jcamins |
Actually, they don't teach you enough about MARC to know what to do with a record if you just take the normal courses, I think. |
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rambutan |
I suspect someday catalogers will be able to just dump all the record data into a plaintext file w/in the db and google will have an intelligent indexer/retrieval algorithm (called camel) to pull the item |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
That'll be the day. |
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jcamins |
Huh. |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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jcamins |
Definitely a bug. |
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jcamins |
Who is that, and can we get him/her to submit a patch? |
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gml |
hi everyone |
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jcamins |
Hello. |
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gml |
is there a system preference for avoiding a patron does not checkout two items from the same biblio? |
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jcamins |
No. |
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gml |
it's a wrong behavior in koha, I think |
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jcamins |
No, I don't think so. |
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jcamins |
I suppose I can see a use for it, but if a book is very popular I'd expect there to be holds on it, and, if there aren't, I wouldn't see any reason why someone couldn't check out two copies of a book so that they could read it without their son/daughter stealing it. |
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gml |
thanks for the help |
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wajasu |
jcamins: i was pulling up a biblio (ISBN 0567093522) which has 240a (uniform title) showing as a link ,and the URL is: http://192.168.122.28:8080/cgi[…]hwerdung%20Gottes. which results in an error page. does that link look correct? |
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jcamins |
Not even slightly. |
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eythian |
hi |
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jcamins |
XSLT mode? |
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wajasu |
no XSLT |
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wajasu |
just statdard master dev install. |
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jcamins |
Okay, bug in regular mode, then. |
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wajasu |
it like that for all biblios i find with a uniform title. |
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wajasu |
if you have a running master, maybe you can confirm it. or maybe i should just look at the code. |
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jcamins |
Lemme see if I have anything with a uniform title readily available. |
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jcamins |
Detail page, yes? |
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wajasu |
MARCDetail.pl |
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jcamins |
*MARCDetail*? |
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wajasu |
with ?biblionumber=### |
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wajasu |
http://192.168.122.28:8080/cgi[…]?biblionumber=484 |
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wajasu |
http://192.168.122.28:8080/cgi[…]hwerdung%20Gottes. for the link |
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jcamins |
Odd. |
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wajasu |
is it a rewrite thing? |
| 22:26 |
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jcamins |
I don't even understand how that could happen. |
| 22:27 |
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jcamins |
Okay, yes I do. |
| 22:27 |
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jcamins |
Bug. |
| 22:27 |
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jcamins |
240 is not a URL. |
| 22:27 |
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jcamins |
Never has been, never will be. |
| 22:27 |
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jcamins |
The default frameworks are wrong. |
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wajasu |
can you write up the bug, since you can explain it better? "i.e, e.g, aka. the default framework... :) |
| 22:28 |
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drojf |
i say MARC did it |
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jcamins |
drojf: I agree. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: sure. |
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wajasu |
its on master |
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* drojf |
wanders off to bed |
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jcamins |
wajasu: yeah, I confirmed it. Otherwise I wouldn't know what the heck was going on. |
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wajasu |
ok. another bit. i did the 3.0 to pre 3.10 master upgrade, and wiped my authrecs, and rebuild, link_bibs_to_auths, rebuild, so now my RLIN auth links are working for subject headings. |
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jcamins |
Excellent! |
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wajasu |
so i think i should stay with that instead of the alternate search. , and have my libraruian maintin authority subject headings from now on. |
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jcamins |
Alternate search? |
| 22:35 |
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wajasu |
the tracings syspref is what i was refering to. |
| 22:35 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 22:35 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 22:35 |
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jcamins |
If you can do it, that's best. |
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wajasu |
the tracing returns a lot more results though. the non-tracing is only giving me up to 2 results. |
| 22:36 |
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jcamins |
That's because it's keyword searches. |
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jcamins |
Librarians in space! |
| 22:37 |
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jcamins |
Bug 8909 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8909 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARC21 240$a (Uniform title) is not a URL |
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wajasu |
thx |
| 22:38 |
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wajasu |
i hate seeing error pages. |
| 22:38 |
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jcamins |
Could be worse. |
| 22:38 |
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jcamins |
You could be running Plack. |
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Space_Librarian |
Yes! |
| 22:39 |
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jcamins |
No error pages under Plack. |
| 22:39 |
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jcamins |
Just errors. |
| 22:39 |
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Space_Librarian |
Hello #koha |
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Space_Librarian |
@wunder Wellington, NZ |
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huginn |
Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on October 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:39 |
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jcamins |
You know what is required? |
| 22:39 |
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jcamins |
Pizza. |
| 22:39 |
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Space_Librarian |
mmmm pizza |
| 22:39 |
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jcamins |
With kale! |
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jcamins |
:D |
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Space_Librarian |
really? |
| 22:40 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 22:40 |
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Space_Librarian |
I guess that may work. |
| 22:40 |
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jcamins |
Forget tomato sauce. |
| 22:40 |
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Space_Librarian |
:s que? |
| 22:40 |
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jcamins |
Kale is the way to go! |
| 22:40 |
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Space_Librarian |
Kale and...? |
| 22:40 |
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jcamins |
Mozzarella, garlic, and sundried tomatoes if we have any. |
| 22:40 |
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wajasu |
kale and collard greens |
| 22:40 |
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jcamins |
Ooooooooooooooooooohh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:40 |
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jcamins |
Artichokes! |
| 22:41 |
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jcamins |
Oh, yes please! Artichoke-kale pizza. |
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wajasu |
Okra? |
| 22:43 |
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* jcamins |
senses a distinct lack of enthusiasm from the direction of Wellington, NZ. |
| 22:43 |
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jcamins |
Nah. I don't like okra. |
| 22:44 |
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Space_Librarian |
I'm just in stunned amazement |
| 22:44 |
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Space_Librarian |
I actually think an artichoke-kale pizza would work really well. |
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* Space_Librarian |
is surprised at this considered revelation |
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wajasu |
brand it Artikale (with an accent over the e). |
| 22:45 |
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Space_Librarian |
I like it. |
| 22:46 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 22:47 |
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jcamins |
And this is just another day of Jared cooking for the Camins household. |
| 22:47 |
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Space_Librarian |
I have missed hearing about your culinary creations. |
| 22:47 |
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jcamins |
I have this _thing_ about making the same thing twice. |
| 22:47 |
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Space_Librarian |
fair enough. |
| 22:48 |
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milts_nz |
Hey, does anyone here use Mendeley or Zotero? |
| 22:48 |
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milts_nz |
I've got a question about Koha RIS exports... |
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jcamins |
milts_nz: uh-oh. |
| 22:49 |
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Space_Librarian |
You guys should see what milts_nz can do with Mendeley though. |
| 22:49 |
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milts_nz |
yep. |
| 22:49 |
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jcamins |
milts_nz: I'm familiar with Koha's RIS export. |
| 22:49 |
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jcamins |
It's... |
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* jcamins |
shudders |
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jcamins |
What's your question? :) |
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milts_nz |
jcamins: haha. |
| 22:49 |
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Space_Librarian |
lol |
| 22:50 |
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milts_nz |
well... we create a 'current awareness' blog about recently added Koha items, so I figured why not create a custom CSL style with HTML in it |
| 22:50 |
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milts_nz |
that way you can export koha -> mendeley -> custom HTML format |
| 22:51 |
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jcamins |
But you use analytics, don't you? |
| 22:51 |
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milts_nz |
and it works awesome for the books, but we index articles too - and they come across as item type "book" |
| 22:51 |
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milts_nz |
jcamins: not at this point. We plan to get around to it. |
| 22:52 |
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jcamins |
Records for articles = analytics. |
| 22:52 |
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milts_nz |
ah |
| 22:52 |
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milts_nz |
sigh |
| 22:52 |
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Space_Librarian |
we haven't had the serials set up in koha. yet. |
| 22:52 |
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Space_Librarian |
is this with the 760's? Because nobody's really been able to explain it to us, jcamins |
| 22:53 |
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jcamins |
76x-78x are linking. 773 is the principle field for analytics (i.e. bibliographic items contained in another bibliographic item). |
| 22:54 |
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jcamins |
Sadly our support for exporting that data as anything other than MARC is... |
| 22:54 |
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jcamins |
rather poor. |
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milts_nz |
I see |
| 22:55 |
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jcamins |
It's not supported in RIS at all, at the moment. |
| 22:55 |
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milts_nz |
currently all our data on volume, issue serial etc is in the 250 and 490 field |
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rambutan |
>whatis RIS |
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Space_Librarian |
Which I'm looking at getting mapped to the 700's |
| 22:56 |
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rambutan |
RIS is a standardized tag format developed by Research Information Systems???? |
| 22:56 |
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rambutan |
Records Import Service? |
| 22:56 |
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jcamins |
The COinS provides limited support, which wouldn't help much for Mendeley. |
| 22:56 |
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jcamins |
And not at all if your records are coded as monographs. |
| 22:56 |
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jcamins |
rambutan: the first. |
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rambutan |
enx |
| 22:57 |
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jcamins |
Rather nightmarish format, really. |
| 22:57 |
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rambutan |
tnx |
| 22:57 |
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milts_nz |
ok |
| 22:57 |
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jcamins |
milts_nz: do you set LDR appropriately? |
| 22:57 |
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milts_nz |
it seems to be quite happy with book exports but articles really don't work neatly |
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rambutan |
and on that note, #init 0 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I'm not surprised. |
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milts_nz |
to be fair, it is a library catalogue not an academic database... |
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milts_nz |
I'm not convinced our leaders are set correctly. We've asked catalyst here in wellington and they suggested an alteration but we're unconvinced |
| 22:58 |
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jcamins |
As far as I know, you're the second person to ever worry about exporting the data to citation managers. |
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jcamins |
(data for articles) |
| 22:58 |
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* jcamins |
was the first. |
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milts_nz |
lol |
| 22:58 |
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milts_nz |
you are no longer alone... |
| 22:58 |
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jcamins |
To the best of my knowledge. |
| 22:59 |
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jcamins |
You're going to have a rough time of it with the data in 250 and 490 no matter what. |
| 22:59 |
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milts_nz |
actually, my other workplace uses it a fair amount - there's a health database in the UK (King's Fund) which we often export files from to endnote |
| 22:59 |
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jcamins |
milts_nz: with Koha?!? |
| 22:59 |
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milts_nz |
yeah I figured. I think that's partly why ms space librarian is looking to ship the data into the 700s |
| 22:59 |
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milts_nz |
yes, king's fund runs on Koha |
| 23:00 |
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milts_nz |
they're... special. |
| 23:00 |
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jcamins |
And you haven't torn all your hair out trying to get the article citations into Endnote? |
| 23:00 |
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jcamins |
(I love Koha very much, but it does not do article citation export very well) |
| 23:01 |
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milts_nz |
yeah. It's actually not too bad - most of the core fields come across - but they do all require manual QC |
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milts_nz |
and I suspect they have better data than us. So thanks, looks like we need to forget about article export at least for a while |
| 23:01 |
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jcamins |
Color me perplexed. |
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milts_nz |
and what shade is that exactly |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure, but a very confused one. |
| 23:02 |
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jcamins |
I can think of no way to get RIS export to work with analytics, no matter how they're coded. |
| 23:03 |
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milts_nz |
:-/ |
| 23:03 |
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jcamins |
But apparently you managed. |
| 23:03 |
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jcamins |
Ask Catalyst how they did it for UK? |
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jcamins |
*King's Fund |
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milts_nz |
that's a point |
| 23:03 |
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jcamins |
Sorry, just realized that UK was probably not an abbreviation for "King's Fund." |
| 23:04 |
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milts_nz |
oh I dunno... |
| 23:04 |
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jcamins |
My preferred solution would be to export a CSL-friendly format so that you could transform directly to MLA/APA/HTML directly from Koha. |
| 23:05 |
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jcamins |
I think it would be exceedingly useful. |
| 23:06 |
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milts_nz |
it really would, especially given how many people are using CSL |
| 23:07 |
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* jcamins |
notes that he does subcontract, if Catalyst wants that development done. (psst: eythian) |
| 23:08 |
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jcamins |
Our forks have swapped spaces again. |
| 23:08 |
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jcamins |
We have big forks, and we have little forks. |
| 23:09 |
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jcamins |
The little forks were where the big forks belonged, and vice versa. |
| 23:10 |
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jcamins |
(I'm in New York, so it's 7pm and I'm currently working on pizza) |
| 23:11 |
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milts_nz |
jcamins: the fork draw needs more metadata |
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Space_Librarian |
I always seem to catch you working on pizza, jcamins |
| 23:12 |
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jcamins |
Yeah... I'm thinking a map. |
| 23:12 |
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Space_Librarian |
did somebody say metadata? |
| 23:12 |
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jcamins |
Actually, my kitchen generally needs a map. |
| 23:12 |
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jcamins |
No one other than me can ever find the mixing bowls. |
| 23:13 |
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jcamins |
(I'm not sure why, I always put them away the same place) |
| 23:13 |
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jcamins |
Space_Librarian: I really like pizza... |
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Space_Librarian |
I gathered. It must be an NY thing. :D |
| 23:16 |
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jcamins |
Space_Librarian: magnuse has pizza every Friday, and he's in Bodo, Norway. |
| 23:16 |
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eythian |
jcamins: noted :) |
| 23:17 |
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eythian |
though I have a minion^Wpostgrad at the moment looking for project type work who I give those things to :) |
| 23:17 |
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eythian |
(right now I'm just getting him started helping to improve OPAC accessability) |
| 23:17 |
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Space_Librarian |
I had pizza with Brooke on Monday. First time in ages. |
| 23:18 |
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eythian |
*who I could give... |
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jcamins |
eythian: your postgrad might not appreciate being asked to decode the semantics of the 76x-78x fields. |
| 23:18 |
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eythian |
deep end, schmeep end |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
Possibly a more manageable project would be RIS-improvement. |
| 23:21 |
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eythian |
I'd just make him talk to you :) |
| 23:21 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 23:22 |
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eythian |
I'll see, it might be that he gets stolen before too long. |
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jcamins |
I favor a webservice to make milts_nz's job super-easy, but that's rather a lot of work. |
| 23:23 |
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eythian |
problem then is you have to develop things to talk to that service, and damned if I'm going to patch endnote :) |
| 23:24 |
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jcamins |
eythian: my version of EndNote supports CSL, I think. |
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milts_nz |
tbh if you can get a nice RIS export, then you can use any one of dozens of applications to turn it into whatever you like |
| 23:31 |
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jcamins |
milts_nz: yeah, but a nice RIS export is something else entirely. |
| 23:32 |
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Space_Librarian |
good point |
| 23:32 |
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jcamins |
If you have to do the export more-or-less from scratch, might as well go with an open standard that goes straight into a citeproc server. |
| 23:34 |
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* jcamins |
would suggest the minion focus on a *working* RIS export. |
| 23:35 |
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jcamins |
(thankfully most users don't notice the problems in our RIS export, right now:) |
| 23:36 |
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milts_nz |
as you said it's not exactly the highest demand aspect of koha... and it works OK with books |
| 23:36 |
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milts_nz |
anyway, lunchtime, cheers for the help all! |
| 23:41 |
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eythian |
MARC::Record et al. make it unreasonably hard to renumber a field. |
| 23:42 |
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Space_Librarian |
you said it. |
| 23:43 |
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jcamins |
It sure does. |
| 23:45 |
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jcamins |
You should patch MARC::Record and send gmcharlt a pull request. :) |
| 23:46 |
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eythian |
that's what I'm thinking I might have to do. |
| 23:47 |
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eythian |
or, just do it the ugly way and create a new tag and reinsert it. |
| 23:47 |
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eythian |
I also can't see a source repo for MARC::* |
| 23:47 |
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jcamins |
There's one somewhere because I patched it. |
| 23:48 |
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jcamins |
I'll see if I can figure out where. |
| 23:48 |
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eythian |
oh, I've found a sourceforge page |
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dhon_ |
hi all, I'm trying to setup a Koha server for developing a SIP client |
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dhon_ |
I'm using the VM "configured" image |
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eythian |
jcamins: found the sf git repo |
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dhon_ |
the image boots fine, but doesn't seem to be running a SIP2 server |
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dhon_ |
how do I start the SIP server? |
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dhon_ |
I've tried misc/bin/sip_run.sh |
| 23:51 |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]SIP2_server_setup <-- dhon_, this may be useful |
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dhon_ |
and perl -IC4/SIP -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm etc/SIPconfig.xml |
| 23:52 |
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dhon_ |
yeah I've read that, thanks |
| 23:52 |
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eythian |
OK |
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dhon_ |
launching via the "perl ... |
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dhon_ |
" command results in a bunch of missing koha-conf.xml messages |
| 23:53 |
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eythian |
ahh |
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eythian |
prefix with KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml |
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jcamins |
eythian: excellent. |
| 23:53 |
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dhon_ |
and some perl compilation errors (?) |
| 23:54 |
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eythian |
yeah, they'll be related |
| 23:54 |
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dhon_ |
launching via the shell script complains that PERL5LIB is not defined |
| 23:54 |
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jcamins |
dhon_: you'll probably want to set both PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF in your environment. |
| 23:55 |
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eythian |
Define PERL5LIB to be /path/to/directory-before-C4 |
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dhon_ |
is there likely to be a script that does that for me? |
| 23:55 |
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jcamins |
Apparently not. |
| 23:55 |
|
* jcamins |
has only used Kyle's VM once. |
| 23:55 |
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jcamins |
I would've expected it to have been set in .profile. |
| 23:55 |
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jcamins |
To confirm, are you running as the Koha user? |
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dhon_ |
yeah |
| 23:56 |
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jcamins |
Also, 3.8.5? |
| 23:56 |
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dhon_ |
seems to be installed to the /home/koha/kohaclone dir |
| 23:56 |
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dhon_ |
3.8.something |
| 23:56 |
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jcamins |
Yup. That's my recollection. |
| 23:56 |
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dhon_ |
not sure, just downloaded it today |
| 23:56 |
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jcamins |
export PERL5LIB=/home/koha/kohaclone |
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jcamins |
export KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
| 23:57 |
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jcamins |
dhon_: downloading a recent version today is good. Not so good is having downloaded an ancient version a year ago. Our instructions in that case would be "download a recent version." ;) |
| 23:57 |
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dhon_ |
:) |
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dhon_ |
http://sourceforge.net/project[…]files/Koha_3.8.x/ |
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dhon_ |
(was the download site) |
| 23:59 |
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dhon_ |
okay, so now ./misc/bin/sip_run.sh says "Please specify a config file and try again" - is this the SIPconfig.xml? |
| 23:59 |
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jcamins |
I think so. |
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dhon_ |
ooh! I think it worked |
