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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 03:49 |
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wajasu |
yo |
| 03:59 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, wajasu. |
| 05:03 |
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wajasu |
ok got bug 8447 signed sealed and ... |
| 05:03 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8447 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , can't save new records / indicator error |
| 05:11 |
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wajasu |
@later tell jcamins 8447 worked, and signed off. its got the original fields, plus the line field(9) and the extra ones. i attached a PNG, nice work. |
| 05:11 |
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huginn |
wajasu: The operation succeeded. |
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wajasu |
@later tell rangi - 8447 got fixed with jacamins and i suspect 8552 to be a dupe, so I'll leave it to you to decide. |
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huginn |
wajasu: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:41 |
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mtompset |
HA! As I suspected. None of the INSTALL.{OS} files mention koha-common! |
| 05:42 |
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wajasu |
i know. i thought it was just for testers. |
| 05:42 |
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wajasu |
but i've seeen folks encourage its use beyond testing. |
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| 05:48 |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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wajasu |
hi |
| 05:50 |
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wajasu |
cait: i had just signed off bug 8447 and i suspect that bug 8552 is a dupe. maybe you can confirm my suspicion. |
| 05:50 |
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cait |
hi wajasu |
| 05:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8447 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , can't save new records / indicator error |
| 05:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8552 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , BiblioAddsAuthorities set to Allow causes Software Error on Z3950 import |
| 05:50 |
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cait |
hm I am not sure wajasu |
| 05:50 |
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cait |
I haven't looked into them |
| 05:50 |
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wajasu |
ok. |
| 05:50 |
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cait |
and it seems one is for bibligraphic and one is for authorities? |
| 05:50 |
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cait |
the code might be similar for both |
| 05:51 |
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cait |
ah no |
| 05:51 |
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cait |
sorry |
| 05:51 |
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cait |
both for bibliogrpahic |
| 05:51 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
| 05:52 |
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cait |
wajasu: I just got up |
| 05:52 |
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wajasu |
jacamins an i fixed the Default Linker which messed up the biblio for subject headings (use case i had was 630). i think 100 and others had the same behavior in 8552, since they were using AutoAddauthorities too. |
| 05:53 |
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cait |
hm |
| 05:53 |
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cait |
I think melia noted it as duplicate too in comment 11 |
| 05:53 |
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cait |
I would mark the bug report that has no patches as the duplicate maybe |
| 05:55 |
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wajasu |
ok. added comments and leaving for others. I'm done for today. |
| 05:56 |
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cait |
sorry for being confusing - I need some time in the mornings :) |
| 06:00 |
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mtompset |
Don't we all, cait? |
| 06:15 |
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bag |
wajasu: I really think that is a dup |
| 06:18 |
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mtompset |
Well edit'ing and testing of INSTALL/Wiki instruction to resume later. |
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mtompset |
Bye. |
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| 08:44 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. 2.5 hours outside without a fan is not my idea of fun. Oh well. |
| 08:44 |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
| 08:44 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 31.0°C (4:00 PM PHT on September 08, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:44 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 08:44 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.2°C (10:40 AM CEST on September 08, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:44 |
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cait |
half of the temperature here |
| 08:45 |
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mtompset |
Rehydrating now. |
| 08:45 |
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mtompset |
Back to documentation. |
| 08:46 |
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cait |
back to it law... |
| 08:47 |
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mtompset |
Bah. It's call covered in Exodus 20. ;) No need for any other laws. Do we really need more than the 10 commandments? ;) |
| 08:47 |
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cait |
I tihnk so |
| 08:47 |
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mtompset |
Sadly, you're right. :( |
| 08:48 |
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cait |
but I agree the 10 commandments are not a bad start |
| 08:48 |
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mtompset |
Considering that the intent of them is so easily broken, sometimes I wonder if we'll ever master the basics. |
| 09:19 |
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rangi |
finally tracked down the problem |
| 09:19 |
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cait |
which problem? |
| 09:19 |
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cait |
evening rangi |
| 09:19 |
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rangi |
the 8 failing tests |
| 09:19 |
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rangi |
and its a real one too |
| 09:19 |
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rangi |
you cant modify anyhing with it |
| 09:19 |
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rangi |
bug 8089 |
| 09:19 |
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cait |
with? |
| 09:19 |
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wahanui |
with is what I think I meant |
| 09:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Use Koha::Cache everywhere |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 09:20 |
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rangi |
so you cant modify borrowers |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
can you explain? |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
oh wow |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
that's a big big bug |
| 09:20 |
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rangi |
or anything |
| 09:20 |
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wahanui |
anything is possible with enough development work :) |
| 09:20 |
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rangi |
in master |
| 09:20 |
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rangi |
since that was pushed |
| 09:20 |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Build/testReport/ |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
how did it happen? the caching effecting the editing? |
| 09:20 |
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rangi |
tests prove how useful they are |
| 09:20 |
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rangi |
no |
| 09:21 |
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rangi |
the cache bit is fine |
| 09:21 |
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rangi |
its a bit jared changed to make it cache that is wrong |
| 09:21 |
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cait |
ah, so something else is in the patch? |
| 09:21 |
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cait |
oh |
| 09:21 |
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rangi |
im not sure how it ever got pushed |
| 09:21 |
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cait |
jared will be devastated |
| 09:21 |
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rangi |
tests must just simply not have been run |
| 09:21 |
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cait |
or the usual... the tests must be wrong |
| 09:22 |
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rangi |
nope the tests are very very very rarely wrong |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
don't tell me :) |
| 09:23 |
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rangi |
+ $result = $cache->get_from_cache("sqlhelper:GetPrimaryKeys:$tablename"); |
| 09:24 |
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rangi |
that is ok |
| 09:24 |
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rangi |
this |
| 09:24 |
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rangi |
$result = grep { $hash_columns->{$_}->{'Key'} =~/PRI/i} keys %$hash_columns; |
| 09:24 |
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rangi |
is not |
| 09:24 |
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rangi |
that should be @result |
| 09:25 |
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rangi |
return grep { $hash_columns->{$_}->{'Key'} =~/PRI/i} keys %$hash_columns; |
| 09:25 |
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rangi |
that was the original line |
| 09:25 |
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rangi |
returns an array |
| 09:25 |
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rangi |
but now its a scalar |
| 09:25 |
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rangi |
ill attach a patch |
| 09:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #164 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
rangi++ |
| 09:27 |
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rangi |
i missed it in my first test |
| 09:27 |
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rangi |
since i only tested an add |
| 09:27 |
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cait |
happens often |
| 09:28 |
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rangi |
yep, but i must have not run the tests, or this would have happened, and neither did kyle, or marcel, or paul |
| 09:28 |
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| 09:28 |
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rangi |
that has to stop |
| 09:30 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 09:30 |
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cait |
that is the really worrysome bit about it :( |
| 09:30 |
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cait |
when qa doesn#t test |
| 09:30 |
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cait |
they at least should run the tests |
| 09:30 |
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rangi |
but at least jenkins caught it |
| 09:31 |
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rangi |
so our backstop caught it |
| 09:31 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 09:31 |
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cait |
but jenkins sould be a happy bot that never gets bothered |
| 09:31 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 09:33 |
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rangi |
@later tell paul_p bug 8089 breaks most of Koha (cant modify anything that uses SQLHelper) there is a patch attached that fixes it |
| 09:33 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:37 |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=12077 |
| 09:37 |
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rangi |
simple fix for a massive error |
| 09:38 |
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cait |
some things have big consequences |
| 09:38 |
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rangi |
changing an array to a scalar by accident sure can |
| 09:47 |
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| 09:53 |
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rangi |
hmm bug 8408 is not going in 3.8.x |
| 09:53 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8408 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Odd OPAC message when OPAC Renewals are disabled and OPACFineNoRenewals is set to blank |
| 10:05 |
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rangi |
hi matts |
| 10:05 |
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matts |
hi ! |
| 10:23 |
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mtompset |
kia ora, rangi |
| 10:23 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, matts |
| 10:26 |
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mtompset |
And what if the bot was so happy it misses it? |
| 10:29 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #164: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/164/ |
| 10:29 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8204 follow-up: don't display OpacNav on auth details |
| 10:29 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8678: XSLT stylesheets output XML, but HTML is needed |
| 10:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8204 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Authority viewer in OPAC ugly, unfriendly, and mostly useless |
| 10:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8678 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , XSLT stylesheets output XML, but HTML is needed |
| 10:31 |
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mtompset |
Why didn't they just make the message something like "You have outstanding fines, contact a librarian."? |
| 10:31 |
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rangi |
that again is not right |
| 10:31 |
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rangi |
the reason they are blocked from renewals is not they have outstanding fines |
| 10:31 |
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rangi |
its that the have outstanding charges, over a certain threshold |
| 10:32 |
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rangi |
which can be set in system preferences, so changing it to jsut say you have outstanding is a change in behaviour, it used to say you owed more than the threshold |
| 10:33 |
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mtompset |
Ah. |
| 10:33 |
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mtompset |
But if that was the message for the $0.00 case, wouldn't that be okay? |
| 10:33 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 10:34 |
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mtompset |
It's like patching a plural with (s), because you are too lazy to check the 0/1/>1 cases. ;) |
| 10:34 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 10:36 |
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mtompset |
Oh... I was thinking about documentation. |
| 10:37 |
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rangi |
!jenkins build Koha_3.8.x now |
| 10:37 |
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jenkins_koha |
rangi: job Koha_3.8.x build scheduled now |
| 10:37 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #165 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #163 2 days 1 hr ago) |
| 10:37 |
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mtompset |
Because obviously it is important. :) |
| 10:37 |
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mtompset |
The INSTALL.{OS} file is only going to be read in the case of a tarball or git install, right? |
| 10:38 |
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mtompset |
If it is a package install, they won't have that file. |
| 10:38 |
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rangi |
yep, but it should start with, are you sure you should be doing this, just install the packages |
| 10:38 |
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rangi |
thats right cos you dont need it |
| 10:38 |
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* rangi |
goes to bed |
| 10:38 |
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mtompset |
I'm working on trying to synchronize the Wiki and INSTALL.{OS} with that in mind. |
| 11:19 |
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| 11:39 |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
| 11:39 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #165: FIXED in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/165/ |
| 12:51 |
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mtj |
mtompset, you also get bonus points for moving the web-install steps, into a new general doc |
| 12:52 |
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mtompset |
I'm 25% of the way through a restructure of the INSTALL.OS and Wiki pages. |
| 12:52 |
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mtj |
after all, the web-install steps are identical for all Koha install methods, on every OS |
| 12:53 |
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mtompset |
Quite tur. |
| 12:53 |
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mtompset |
true. |
| 12:53 |
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mtompset |
I've gotten several: You should be using packages. |
| 12:53 |
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mtompset |
into the docs now. |
| 12:54 |
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mtompset |
Because I want point 2.7.2 to be the same point in the Wiki and INSTALL.OS file. |
| 12:54 |
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mtj |
yep, now you're getting the hang of it... :) |
| 12:54 |
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mtompset |
I will however, provide a mapping between the "standard" "site" and "dev" installs. |
| 12:55 |
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mtompset |
something that is currently lacking. |
| 12:56 |
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mtompset |
And frankly, I am annoyed by the Appendix A answers for the install process. |
| 12:56 |
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mtompset |
They should be in the same section! |
| 12:57 |
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mtompset |
"If you are still persisting to do a tarball install, this file is the only support you are likely to get in the future: " |
| 12:58 |
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mtj |
sorry, i dont know want yr refering to |
| 12:59 |
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mtj |
the install process, or a doc describing the install process |
| 13:01 |
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mtj |
so, whats your restructure plan? |
| 13:02 |
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mtj |
i have a restructure plan for the install docs too :) |
| 13:03 |
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mtj |
…so we might be duplicating a whole lot of work, between us |
| 13:11 |
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mtompset |
There might be some tweaks to be made in reordering on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
| 13:12 |
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mtompset |
But actually, if you have an order in mind, I wouldn't mind hearing it, so we can co-ordinate that. |
| 13:12 |
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mtompset |
I personally like my subtle hint "aptitude search koha-common" |
| 13:13 |
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mtompset |
while checking to see if aptitude is installed. ;) |
| 13:15 |
|
mtj |
its all pretty simple obvious advice really.... |
| 13:15 |
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mtj |
1/ remove references to obselete versions of stuff |
| 13:17 |
|
mtj |
2/ put the the install steps that are generally relevant, in a single document |
| 13:17 |
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mtj |
(and, remove duplicated info too) |
| 13:19 |
|
mtj |
3/ keep the documentation concise and correct and simple |
| 13:20 |
|
mtj |
4/ keep the language simple, so its easy to machine-translate - and for non-english people to understand |
| 13:21 |
|
mtj |
5/ dont add unnecessary information |
| 13:21 |
|
mtj |
6/ dont add incorrect information |
| 13:22 |
|
mtj |
. |
| 13:22 |
|
mtj |
thats prolly about it… :) |
| 13:23 |
|
mtj |
7/ keep the documentation unders source-control, appoint a doc-manager/QA-team... |
| 13:24 |
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mtj |
the last ones v. important |
| 13:24 |
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mtompset |
7) hasn't happened yet. |
| 13:24 |
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mtj |
8/ remove all the old, incorrect, outdated install pages from the wiki |
| 13:24 |
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mtompset |
But I agree. |
| 13:25 |
|
mtompset |
I'll get around to that too. |
| 13:25 |
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mtompset |
I'm at 30% now. Need to keep going. |
| 13:27 |
|
mtj |
9/ and probably autobuild some wikipages from the install docs, after a commit happens |
| 13:29 |
|
mtj |
so, there might be install pages on the wiki, (but they will be compiled and read-only) |
| 13:29 |
|
mtj |
thats the best way forward, as i see it... |
| 13:31 |
|
mtj |
ok, off to bed now… :) |
| 13:39 |
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mtompset |
"If you are still persisting to do a tarball install, this file is the only support you are likely to get in the future" -- Is that too harsh? |
| 13:40 |
|
mtj |
yeah, too harsh :p |
| 13:40 |
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mtompset |
But come on... packages have been around since 3.4 |
| 13:41 |
|
mtompset |
actually earlier, but 3.4 in production. |
| 13:43 |
|
mtj |
specifc to an ubuntu install, then yeah… tarball is a no-no |
| 13:44 |
|
mtj |
sorry, i thought you meant, in general... |
| 13:45 |
|
mtj |
ok, now *really* off to bed :) ciao |
| 15:09 |
|
mtompset |
It's gotten rather quiet now. |
| 15:12 |
|
* wajasu |
door creaking |
| 15:19 |
|
mtompset |
wajasu: You're awake? |
| 15:19 |
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mtompset |
What timezone are you in? |
| 15:19 |
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wajasu |
i'm in Texas, it 10:15 am |
| 15:20 |
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wajasu |
where are you? Philipines? |
| 15:20 |
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mtompset |
I have a friend who is marrying a girl from Texas. -- Yes, I'm in the Philippines 11:17PM |
| 15:20 |
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mtompset |
But I'm not crazy enough to expect you to know everyone in Texas. ;) |
| 15:20 |
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wajasu |
i was there August 2011, in Batangas province |
| 15:21 |
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mtompset |
That's sort of close to where I am. |
| 15:21 |
|
mtompset |
But I'm in Laguna. |
| 15:22 |
|
mtompset |
Magsalita sa Tagalog po ba kayo? ;) |
| 15:22 |
|
mtompset |
(That's ugly tagalog for do you speak in Tagalog) |
| 15:23 |
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wajasu |
i tried once, but it doesn't work well over irc. |
| 15:25 |
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wajasu |
most everyone know english. i went to the rock, and that vocano for fun. i learned a lot about your history. You have alot of people living in those islands. |
| 15:27 |
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mtompset |
I'm Canadian, but being called a Filipino is okay. They are so hospitable. :) |
| 15:28 |
|
mtompset |
My wife is Filipino though. :) |
| 15:28 |
|
mtompset |
did you learn the parts of history that overlapped with US history? |
| 15:28 |
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wajasu |
yes. |
| 15:29 |
|
mtompset |
the part about how freedom from Spain because of a fight over Cuba? |
| 15:30 |
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wajasu |
yes. the world is always fighting. it seems the Philipines has been in the middle of many wars and paid dearly. |
| 15:31 |
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mtompset |
Yes, too much fighting and cross-fire, but the Filipino people are resilient because of it. :) |
| 15:32 |
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mtompset |
Also helped that McArthur kept his promise to return. :) |
| 15:33 |
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wajasu |
yes. that whole perspective McArthur was ausome. |
| 15:34 |
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mtompset |
*whew* ... Editing documentation is such a slow process! |
| 15:35 |
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mtompset |
I'm almost 55% of the way done. |
| 15:35 |
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wajasu |
koha needs to get more user/dev/freindly. its sorely needed. |
| 15:35 |
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mtompset |
It's like I've got a novel in the INSTALL file. |
| 15:36 |
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mtompset |
Right now, I'm trying to clean up the documentation for Ubuntu. |
| 15:36 |
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mtompset |
I just finished editing through all the preliminary set up steps. |
| 15:37 |
|
mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
| 15:37 |
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mtompset |
I'm at section 3 now. |
| 15:38 |
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mtompset |
the manual build part. |
| 15:44 |
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wajasu |
i deployed my koha 3 years ago on archlinux. i think koha needs to package its dependencies in a perl local:lib in the future, because the distributions upgrade perl, but the koha code is not ready. |
| 15:44 |
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mtompset |
perl local:lib? |
| 15:46 |
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wajasu |
there is an external perl build/packaging tool called carton, which if we used it, we could gather all the parl dependencies, and make a perl lib directory separate from the host distributions version. |
| 15:47 |
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wajasu |
for external deps. |
| 15:48 |
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wajasu |
and maybe we could use perlbrew. |
| 15:50 |
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mtompset |
But since archlinux (from what I have briefly read in the last 5 minute) is build what you want... why not just use the debian repos? |
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wajasu |
archlinux has its own package manager called pacman (not rpm), and i wrote a script to build the packages from cpan which worked. |
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* mtompset |
bows to the hard-core awesomeness of wajasu. ;) |
| 15:52 |
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mtompset |
debian use .deb files, not .rpm's. |
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wajasu |
but cpan depenedcies have more deps, etc. which gets big. so koha is really debian dependent on having packages available. |
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wajasu |
i see. |
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mtompset |
Actually... I was tinkering with a script for a yum-based install (CentOS) |
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mtompset |
The problem is I would have to pull things from CPAN. |
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mtompset |
And that seems yucky. |
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mtompset |
Unless I packaged them, and then installed from the packages I generated. |
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wajasu |
i have a nice bash script that runs using a debian preseed file and builds a koha VM(using libvirt/qemu and includes the koha-common packages, pulling from the k-c.org repo. |
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mtompset |
I'm running Ubuntu, so no need for that. :) |
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wajasu |
it was to distribution agnostic, and let folks run koha in a debian VM. so know i would deploy the koha appliance to archlinux, ubuntu, etc. |
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wajasu |
the problem with archlinux was it updated so frequently, its not what you want for a server, because if an update changes the perl version, your koha is broken. |
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wajasu |
so thats why i experimented with perlbrew, perl local:lib and then went to a VM. |
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mtompset |
Changes the DEFAULT perl? |
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mtompset |
Well, it's nearing midnight. I need to get to bed, or I'll turn into a pumpkin. ;) |
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wajasu |
i was running koha on perl 5.12, and when it went to 5.14 in the OS, koha broke. i had changed the rewrie script to change to #!/usr/bin/env and things were fine |
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wajasu |
later |
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* mtompset |
waves. |
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* cait |
waves |
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wajasu |
i'm attempting to test bug 8211 and perform test as described in comment #1. i need a bilio/librarian to guide me in how to create an authority record with 551 links. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add "subject (broader)," "subject (narrower)," and "subject (related)" options for search |
