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libsysguy |
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/i[…]x250/23362159.jpg |
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libsysguy |
oops |
| 01:02 |
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libsysguy |
that was for JesseM |
| 01:06 |
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rangi |
http://www.indiegogo.com/teslamuseum |
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rangi |
:) |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #57 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #57: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/57/ |
| 02:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
* f.demians: 3.6.8 Translation Update |
| 02:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Add release notes for 3.6.8 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bump version for 3.6.8 |
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rangi |
cait: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ |
| 04:20 |
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cait |
do I want to know? |
| 04:20 |
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wajasu |
i'm looking at why some overdue_notice messages don't have anything after Fine: store in the table. |
| 04:20 |
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wajasu |
i suspect that the Currency table unicode characters for the currecny format cause mysql to throw away the symbol and everything after that. |
| 04:20 |
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wajasu |
the column is text |
| 04:21 |
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wajasu |
in message_queue table |
| 04:22 |
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cait |
hm I don't think that is it |
| 04:22 |
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cait |
there is an easy test - put some currencies in your text |
| 04:23 |
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wajasu |
i'' try to cut n paste those inthe currency table and see if things get cut off from that point. |
| 04:24 |
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wajasu |
the mail i am debugging is a perl string, and it is supplied to the dbh insert command, and maybe the dbh insert statement is the culprit in perl? |
| 04:25 |
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cait |
unlikely |
| 04:25 |
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cait |
we do handle unicode in lots and lots of places just fine |
| 04:26 |
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cait |
I think it's more likely to be something else |
| 04:26 |
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cait |
hm |
| 04:26 |
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cait |
could you put in a warn for the string that we try to write in the database? |
| 04:28 |
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cait |
wajasu: and the currency table isn#t use here. We use a perl module for the formatting, it works with isocodes and is independent from Koha? |
| 04:32 |
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wajasu |
yes. this mail is being written to an array, one for each notice. then the script just dumps it to output, which is what we see with fines intact. later, since there is no patron email address configured, it formats notices as an attachment using MIME::Lite, I did a print just before the $dbh->last_insert_id statement and the data is intact. |
| 04:33 |
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cait |
hm |
| 04:33 |
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cait |
sorry, I am not sure how to go from there |
| 04:33 |
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cait |
maybe the data is not unicode at that point? |
| 04:33 |
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wajasu |
theat array gets dumped to the stdout and looks correct. I piped it into od-a and see two diamon questionmark characters. |
| 04:33 |
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cait |
od-a? |
| 04:33 |
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wajasu |
nothing from those characters onward is stored in the db. |
| 04:34 |
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wajasu |
old unix tool to dump hex, or ascii chars in a file. |
| 04:34 |
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wajasu |
octal dump. hex dump, etc. like dump command in old msdos |
| 04:34 |
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wajasu |
immean debug cm din msdos |
| 04:34 |
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rangi |
unless you have mangled your mysql install/db |
| 04:35 |
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wajasu |
no. its fresh. |
| 04:35 |
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rangi |
it will store unicode .... and all sorts of other char sets just fine |
| 04:35 |
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rangi |
one of my libraries notices has macrons in it, works just fine |
| 04:36 |
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cait |
we normally have umlauts - the title I tested with had none |
| 04:36 |
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cait |
but like rangi said - it onrmally works just fine |
| 04:38 |
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rangi |
would be odd this just started happening |
| 04:38 |
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wajasu |
it has to be related to those chars, because why would everything in the message be thrown away after that point. |
| 04:38 |
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rangi |
run it in the mysql cli |
| 04:39 |
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rangi |
and see |
| 04:39 |
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cait |
rangi: he is right that it looks like everything is thrown away. hm. |
| 04:39 |
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wajasu |
this is the rare case that when no email is configured for the patron, AND the KohaAdminEmailAddress is not configured. Then the notice is still queued. |
| 04:39 |
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cait |
wajasu: could you change the template and add something after the <item> line? |
| 04:39 |
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cait |
the notice template I mean? |
| 04:40 |
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rangi |
cait: it must be a recent change then, because else id have a zillion complaints |
| 04:40 |
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wajasu |
yes. do that now. but i have something already. its gone. |
| 04:40 |
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cait |
rangi: are you using he fine syntax? maybe just that little part gets encoded wrong? |
| 04:40 |
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rangi |
have you run the sql in the mysql cli |
| 04:40 |
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cait |
rangi: only guessing around here too I fear, like I wrote, we can try some more tests with changing the templates |
| 04:41 |
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rangi |
because you are chasing your tails otherwsie |
| 04:41 |
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wajasu |
yes. its only going to happen with my fix to the fine syntax. |
| 04:41 |
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cait |
the module we use for putting the fines in |
| 04:41 |
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cait |
there is a way to tell that to give back unicode if I remember correctly |
| 04:41 |
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rangi |
dump the entire sql |
| 04:41 |
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rangi |
cut and paste it into mysql itself, see what it warns |
| 04:42 |
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wajasu |
is there a method fromthe dbh api to do that? |
| 04:43 |
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rangi |
DBI you mean? |
| 04:43 |
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wajasu |
yes |
| 04:43 |
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wajasu |
like sth->sqldump() |
| 04:43 |
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rangi |
i thoght you said you dumped it already? |
| 04:44 |
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wajasu |
i printed $params->{'letter'}->{'content'} just before the execute |
| 04:44 |
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wajasu |
its the content column. |
| 04:46 |
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rangi |
from the man page |
| 04:46 |
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rangi |
Statement |
| 04:46 |
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rangi |
$dbh->Statement(); |
| 04:46 |
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wajasu |
ok. let me try that. |
| 04:52 |
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wajasu |
C4/Letters.pm around line 788 is what i'm looking at. |
| 04:53 |
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wajasu |
$sth->execute(@bind_values); is what is being used. |
| 05:03 |
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vkm |
hello koha users |
| 05:04 |
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vkm |
may i know how to unlock the field 111,110 in marc format so that i can enter the data here without using the authority |
| 05:11 |
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cait |
hi vkm, I think the info is in the fac |
| 05:11 |
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cait |
faq |
| 05:11 |
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cait |
faq? |
| 05:11 |
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wahanui |
i guess faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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pastebot |
"wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "i turned on mysql logging and cu this from the mysql .log on the server" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/131 |
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| 05:13 |
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rangi |
Yep not unicode |
| 05:21 |
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cait |
wajasu: maybe look into the way the currency symbol is created? it might be the module changed or we have to pass another flag |
| 05:21 |
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cait |
or something |
| 05:22 |
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wajasu |
yup. looking into it. |
| 05:22 |
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rangi |
Or mime lite |
| 05:22 |
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rangi |
Is butchering the encoding |
| 05:23 |
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wajasu |
yup. everything is suspect. |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
wajasu: if you want, you could add something like äüöß to your notice template |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
see if that prints right |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
and you could give the patron an email adress -make it easier to see the output in the table |
| 05:23 |
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wajasu |
i printed the contect after the mime lite to stdout and things look fine on screen. but it could have mapped chars. |
| 05:25 |
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wajasu |
i am querying the mysql table and can see things cut off. but now we know the statement got to the db. I'm going to try cut n pasting the log file code and look at the hex value. |
| 05:25 |
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cait |
hm |
| 05:25 |
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cait |
I think I woudl do another approach :) |
| 05:26 |
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cait |
first trying to rule out all the notice is encoded wrong |
| 05:26 |
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cait |
narrow it down if it's the fine part only or all of it, but putting some character s in the notice template |
| 05:26 |
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wajasu |
i replaced the fine in overdue_notice.pl with "$2.00" and nothing is cut off. |
| 05:26 |
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cait |
then I woudl look how the fine formatting is done and at the module doing it |
| 05:27 |
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wajasu |
$item->{'fine'} = currency_format($currency_format, "$fine", FMT_SYMBOL) |
| 05:28 |
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wajasu |
of the Locale::Currency::Format package |
| 05:28 |
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wajasu |
where $currency_format = "USD" or "GBP" |
| 05:29 |
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cait |
hmm |
| 05:29 |
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cait |
did you use the old patch from chris_n to restore the feature? |
| 05:29 |
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wajasu |
that character is binary so http://search.cpan.org/~tnguye[…]at-1.30/Format.pm |
| 05:29 |
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cait |
I remember I patched something aobut the encoding at some point later on |
| 05:30 |
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vkm |
thx cait |
| 05:30 |
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vkm |
dear friends i did not find any proper document which gives me clear cut idea about how to configure sendmail/postfix to generate auto emails (via gmail account) can any body help me |
| 05:30 |
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cait |
vkm: this is more a system administration question |
| 05:31 |
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wajasu |
cait: so there might be another patch floating around for this |
| 05:31 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 05:32 |
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wajasu |
saerching |
| 05:32 |
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cait |
4904 |
| 05:32 |
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vkm |
but i think somebody might be doing it for emails, so can we have proper document on it email configure and sms |
| 05:36 |
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rangi |
Vkm: configuring those are sysadmin tasks nit koha specific |
| 05:36 |
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rangi |
You should look for general guides on configuring an mta |
| 05:37 |
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vkm |
i have tried a lot but not sucess |
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| 05:43 |
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wajasu |
the GBP unicode symbol being generated by the currency format routine is a3c2 |
| 05:43 |
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wajasu |
now i'm going to see what MiMe Lite did to the buffer. |
| 05:43 |
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cait |
hm |
| 05:49 |
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wajasu |
my cutnpaste fromthe mysqllog to a file and output with od -x ( hex shows bfef 00bd |
| 05:49 |
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wajasu |
so i will try to store without mime lite, and see |
| 05:53 |
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cait |
good luck :) |
| 05:54 |
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cait |
and thx for looking into this |
| 05:55 |
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wajasu |
we're close |
| 05:59 |
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wajasu |
i tried wihtout mimm lite and the buffer still cut off. i'm going to have to research mysql text/unicode etc. |
| 06:02 |
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cait |
wajasu: I think it's not mysql really |
| 06:02 |
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cait |
we don't give mysql unicode |
| 06:02 |
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cait |
to store |
| 06:02 |
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cait |
that's more likely to be the problem |
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| 06:03 |
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cait |
it's consistent to what happens when I try loading patrons that are not properly encoded - I get name scut off when an umlaut appears |
| 06:04 |
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wajasu |
the umalut not being a unicode character? or because mysql is not supporting that specific character in the text column type? |
| 06:05 |
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wajasu |
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]unicode-utf8.html |
| 06:05 |
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wajasu |
https://secure.wikimedia.org/w[…]ultilingual_Plane |
| 06:05 |
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wajasu |
BMP only then? |
| 06:06 |
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cait |
the umlaut not being properly encoded |
| 06:06 |
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cait |
mysql supports properly encoded data just fine :) |
| 06:07 |
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cait |
that's what I am trying to tell you - I don't think it's mysql or the data type. The data we want to store is wrong, so it gets cut off |
| 06:07 |
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cait |
I wouldn't invest in searching a mysql problem here |
| 06:08 |
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wajasu |
if the ISO code is unicode (which i stillneed to prove), then i just need to encode it correctly? |
| 06:08 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:08 |
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cait |
hi magnuse :) |
| 06:08 |
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cait |
wajasu: I think it isn't |
| 06:09 |
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cait |
I am not sure why it isn't |
| 06:10 |
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wajasu |
i know a quick fix for the notice. FMT_STANDARD will do 3.00 USD 3.00 EUR etc :) |
| 06:10 |
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magnuse |
hiya cait |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
yeah,... but would be nicer to restore functionality |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
such problems are meh. |
| 06:13 |
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wajasu |
i'm looking into another route. |
| 06:13 |
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* druthb |
goes, "meh." |
| 06:14 |
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wajasu |
i think the code might need to be c2a3 instead of a3c2 (bigendian vs ?) |
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wajasu |
nope |
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alex_a |
bonjour tout le monde |
| 06:27 |
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cait |
hi wajasu |
| 06:27 |
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cait |
hm hi alex_a :) |
| 06:27 |
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cait |
was what I meant :) |
| 06:28 |
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cait |
alex_a: is joubu around or on vacation? |
| 06:29 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ and jcamins++ for new releases! |
| 06:29 |
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alex_a |
cait: Joubu is not on vacation |
| 06:30 |
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cait |
cool :) |
| 06:30 |
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alex_a |
He should arrive soon |
| 06:30 |
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cait |
alex_a: was looking at a bug that blocks another series of bugs this morning |
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cait |
ok work time bbl |
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magnuse |
bonjour sophie_m et julian_m |
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julian_m |
hello magnuse |
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sophie_m |
hi magnuse :-) |
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magnuse |
yay! ;-) |
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reiveune |
hello |
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Oak |
Ahoy me hearties! |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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sophie_m |
hello kf |
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kf |
hi sophie_m :) |
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gaetan_B |
hello :) |
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clrh |
hello too |
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francharb |
good morning #koha |
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kf |
hi francharb |
| 07:19 |
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kf |
hi clrh and gaetan_B :) |
| 07:19 |
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gaetan_B |
guten morgen kf :) |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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Oak |
good morning kf |
| 07:24 |
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Joubu |
kf: hi ! I rebased the patch for Bug 5357 ;) |
| 07:24 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5357 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Subscription search and displays |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
evening |
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kf |
hi Joubu and hi rangi |
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kf |
Joubu: cool :) |
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magnuse |
kia ora rangi |
| 07:31 |
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kf |
Joubu: I didn't want to mess it up :) |
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Joubu |
kf: there is no problem :) Thank you for your test |
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kf |
I am really interested to see a workflow for ordering serials |
| 07:41 |
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kf |
Amit did a patch, but some of the code between the subscription search and his patch is duplicated - maybe we could get a patch on top of the other? not sure what's best here |
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clrh |
Le mot de passe devra être composé de chiffre, lettre, majuscule, et |
| 08:12 |
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clrh |
oups |
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dgl-library |
Hi #koha |
| 08:13 |
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dgl-library |
Kia ora, bonjour, hola, namaste, konnichiwa… |
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kf |
hi dgl-library |
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dgl-library |
Hi kf |
| 08:15 |
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dgl-library |
I have a question about MARC 650 |
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eythian |
hmm, next YAPC::EU is in Kiev. I wonder if I can convince work to send me to that... |
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eythian |
@later nengard manual huh, that's an unusual idea :) |
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huginn |
eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 08:22 |
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eythian |
@later tell nengard manual huh, that's an unusual idea :) |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
wahanui: ask? |
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wahanui |
no idea, rangi |
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* rangi |
is wondering if dgl-library is going to ask their question |
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kf |
eythian: you might be more successfull asking for yapc:na maybe :) |
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eythian |
Is it in Kiev? I don't think so! :) |
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eythian |
wahanui: ask is <reply>Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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kf |
eythian: okok |
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kf |
oh 8665 |
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kf |
bug 8665 |
| 08:31 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8665 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records |
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rangi |
i guess not |
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* eythian |
discovers Shell.pm, and the perl debugger. Useful talk this one. |
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eythian |
(mostly on how to make the debugger nice and usable as a REPL) |
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Oak |
oh well. |
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eythian |
dpavlin: good "Intro to Plack" talk on here |
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kf |
:) |
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koyauni |
hi everyone! |
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koyauni |
hi |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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eythian |
hi drojf |
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drojf |
hey eythian |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 23.4°C (12:42 PM CEST on August 22, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
eythian: still in frankfurt? |
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eythian |
drojf: yeah, heading back this evening |
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drojf |
where is "back" these days? konstanz? |
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kf |
drojf: yep :) |
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drojf |
hi kf :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kf. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, drojf |
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drojf |
hey mtompset |
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wahanui |
mtompset is trying to do a variety of projects in less than three months! |
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* mtompset |
grins, "Much more accurate now." |
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drojf |
heh |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha. |
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drojf |
hi jcamins |
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magnuse |
kia ora jcamins |
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mtompset |
Greetings, jcamins. |
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kf |
morning jcamins |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
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wahanui |
it has been said that morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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drojf |
hey oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
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kf |
hi oleonard |
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* oleonard |
would attend that convention |
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kf |
lol |
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jcamins |
lol |
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* jcamins |
too |
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kf |
aaw :) |
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jcamins |
oleonard: thoughts on moving the Javascript libraries outside of opac-tmpl as well? |
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jcamins |
Share one copy of YUI, jQuery, etc.? |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Are there no issues with the ways the various install methods handle paths with regard to the templates? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: good question. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: If it's feasible, I approve. |
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jcamins |
Ah, yes. |
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jcamins |
Doesn't work. |
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magnuse |
oh noes! |
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jcamins |
It would be possible with some changes to koha-httpd, but I think it's better to make the transition gradually. |
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jcamins |
I don't see any way to make the upgrade work. |
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jcamins |
(consistently) |
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druthb |
o/ |
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jcamins |
\o |
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oleonard |
--o-- |
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druthb |
^.^ |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.4°C (3:00 PM CEST on August 22, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder lawrence, ks |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 19.5°C (8:00 AM CDT on August 22, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
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kf |
huginn is wrong :( |
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huginn |
kf: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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kf |
it's much warmer |
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kf |
@wunder Singen |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Rheinau, Germany is 28.2°C (2:57 PM CEST on August 22, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 22.8°C (8:32 AM EDT on August 22, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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kf |
hm |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn |
oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 13.9°C (8:30 AM EDT on August 22, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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* kf |
is melting |
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* drojf |
likes the air conditioning in his library |
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kf |
hmpf |
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drojf |
i think it's not even warm outside today |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.6°C (2:42 PM CEST on August 22, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
ok seems to be getting warmer again |
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eythian |
@wunder frankfurt |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Frankfurt / M-Flughafen, Germany is 26.0°C (3:00 PM CEST on August 22, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
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dgl-library |
Hi #koha … I wanted to ask a question before, but stuff came up. My question is about how Koha handles MARC 650… they become links in the OPAC, but they don't work the way I expected them to. |
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jcamins |
dgl-library: what are you seeing, and what did you expect? |
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dgl-library |
650 ## - SUBJECT--TOPIC |
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dgl-library |
a Topical term or geographic name as entry element: Psychology |
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dgl-library |
x General subdivision: Books in German (Deutsch) |
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dgl-library |
This shows up as Psychology--Books in German (Deutsch) … but when I click on it, instead of getting only books tagged like that, I’m getting all Psychology books. |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, it does a keyword search on the subject. |
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jcamins |
($a only) |
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dgl-library |
Hmm. I really love Koha, big fan, but that's counterintuitive. |
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jcamins |
You can change it by setting TraceAllSubfields. |
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dgl-library |
How? |
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jcamins |
That doesn't sound right. |
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jcamins |
It's called... |
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* jcamins |
checks |
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jcamins |
TraceSubjectSubdivisions. |
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jcamins |
It's a syspref. |
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dgl-library |
By setting that to True, I'll get the expected behavior? |
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jcamins |
You'll get something much closer. |
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dgl-library |
¿? |
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dgl-library |
Will do it. Thanks. |
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tcohen |
hmm, latest patch for bug 8520 didn't make it into 3.8.4 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results |
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jcamins |
tcohen: nope, it passed QA too late. It'll go into 3.8.5. |
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dgl-library |
jcamins: by the way, how does search work? will a search in quotation marks search for a specific phrase instead of using AND logic? |
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dgl-library |
sorry, OR logic |
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dgl-library |
(in OPAC) |
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jcamins |
No. |
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jcamins |
A search in quotes will search for something vaguely more phrase-like than a search without quotes. |
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jcamins |
However, the only way search is going to work well is if it's rewritten. |
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jcamins |
And, in fact, I have proposed rewriting search, and am currently looking for sponsors. |
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dgl-library |
the thing is that I'm finding that our search results are sometimes overly broad |
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dgl-library |
aha. |
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* jcamins |
hints that dgl-library could be a sponsor. :) |
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dgl-library |
how much would it cost to sponsor that? |
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jcamins |
dgl-library: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
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dgl-library |
*reading* |
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jcamins |
The *total* cost for a complete do-over of the search is $57k. I'll be able to get started at $9k, and starting at that point and every $6k or so thereafter we'll see a major jump in search functionality. |
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dgl-library |
Hmm, I'm afraid we're not a good candidate organization for the sponsorship you need… :-$ We chose Koha in part based on budgetary considerations. We're a small non-profit funded primarily by small donations from individuals. Wish we could help with that, though. |
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* slef |
mutters something about pledgebank.com again |
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jcamins |
So far I have numbers for $6500, and a bunch of "we'll get back to you with a number"s. |
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jcamins |
There's a thread on the mailing list, "Let's fix it together" that gives more information. |
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* jcamins |
mutters something about slef not mentioning pledgebank to him before. |
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* slef |
mutters something about jcamins should have read nengard's excellent write-up of his kohacon12 talk |
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slef |
I'll go look at that mainling list thread in a bit though |
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slef |
mailing |
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eythian |
mainlining |
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mtompset |
I like the thermometer on the C&P website. :) |
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jcamins |
mtompset: thanks. |
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mtompset |
Particularly the relating the sections to covered/partially covered/not covered. |
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mtompset |
It's a good graphic for clarity. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: it's ridiculously simple. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: of course, the simplicity didn't make it easy to figure out. |
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mtompset |
People should use their brains a little when looking at a graphic. ;) |
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mtompset |
I saw "58%" (or whatever the number was), and then realized that 58% for that tiny piece. |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
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mtompset |
was for... |
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jcamins |
The legend has the overall percentage. |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009) |
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mtompset |
So would a Fire Weasel be a dev_hyperspace rift opening an spewing vast amounts of unformatted data at you? |
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mtompset |
^an^and^ |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn |
druthb: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009) |
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druthb |
puh. |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn |
druthb: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) |
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mtompset |
@quote random |
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huginn |
mtompset: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010) |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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gmcharlt |
@quote add mtompset> So would a Fire Weasel be a dev_hyperspace rift opening and spewing vast amounts of unformatted data at you? |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #215 added. |
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mtompset |
one of them? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that one of them is bound to have a good idea ;) |
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druthb |
wahanui: gmcharlt? |
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wahanui |
i think gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
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* druthb |
nods. |
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mtompset |
druthb? |
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wahanui |
druthb is probably a migration specialist and great friend or crazy as a loon. |
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* tcohen |
deploying 3.8.4+ right now |
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gmcharlt |
the first implies the third, at times ;) |
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druthb |
definitely that last part. |
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* druthb |
hasn't always been a migration specialist, but has always been crazy as a loon. |
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mtompset |
Why are loons considered crazy? And is crazy such a bad thing? |
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* druthb |
had to get certified as crazy, to reach an important goal, about two years ago. She's got all the letters n stuff to prove she's nuts. |
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mtompset |
tcohen: 32 or 64 bit? |
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libsysguy |
@later tell oleonard I think the trick to the ajax problem was to set the dataType to JSON |
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huginn |
libsysguy: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
mtompset: we've always been 64bits (2008 to date) |
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mtompset |
let me know how it goes... I have yet to do a 64-bit install. I'm assuming you are using Ubuntu? |
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tcohen |
yes, we use Ubuntu in our infrastructure |
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tcohen |
mtompset, about the i386 thing |
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tcohen |
we've talked about that |
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tcohen |
it had to do with libyaz3 in ubuntu.packages |
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mtompset |
Ah yes... it should be libyaz4. |
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mtompset |
I was going to follow up. |
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tcohen |
with your fixed packages files (lucid / precise) it works as expected |
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tcohen |
i've set two PVM (10.04 and 12.04 each) to test your files |
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mtompset |
Unfortunately, they aren't in 3.8.4 |
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mtompset |
I noticed that today. |
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kf |
yeah, marc |
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jcamins |
kf: having fun with GND? |
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kf |
yeah |
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kf |
that and writing presentations in english for next week |
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kf |
... |
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dgl-library |
Bye for now #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard |
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mib_7vh7ub |
hello |
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WilliamCarlin |
Hello again |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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* kf |
waves |
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koyauni |
Hi everyone |
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Brooke |
howdy |
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wahanui |
hi, Brooke |
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koyauni |
sorry anyone here familiar with Debian and Plesk Panel |
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kf |
hi margo |
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margo |
hey |
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slef |
koyauni: I've seen Plesk. Generally a bad idea IMO. Could you get a nicer panel? |
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kf |
be careful closing tabs :) |
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slef |
kohacon13 meeting in a mo? |
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Brooke |
here's hoping |
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kf |
yeah I think so |
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Brooke |
ta da |
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kf |
there she is :) |
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kf |
hi, brb, only running to the printer |
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maximep |
good catch oleonard on the jquery version for my patch. It seems since 1.6.1 attr checked returns "checked" instead of "true". I will change it to .is(":checked") that should work in all version and is easier to read |
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maximep |
oleonard++ |
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NancyK |
Hi everyone. |
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Brooke |
howdy |
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wahanui |
hey, Brooke |
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koyauni |
well it is a dedicated server and it comes with that. I have installed Koha but have problem to get connect the actual domain to find virtual domain in Appache |
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Brooke |
lemme rev this up then |
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Brooke |
#startmeeting |
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wahanui |
if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Aug 22 15:00:12 2012 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
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Brooke |
#info your introductions so they go in whatever minutes are produced :) |
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NancyK |
We have our KohaCon planning this morning |
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druthb |
#info D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater Solutions |
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kf |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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NancyK |
Nancy Keener Washoe county Library System |
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slef |
#info MJ Ray, software.coop, Eastern England (kohacon12 hosts) |
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Bruce |
#info Bruce Metcalf, Augustan Society Library, Orlando, Florida. |
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margo |
#Margo Duncan, UT Tyler Library, Texas |
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kf |
NancyK: if you use #info it will show up in the meeting logs - it's a little tool to create minutes for us |
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margo |
ack, 10am here, not quite typing right |
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margo |
#info Margo Duncan UT Tyler Library, Texas |
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John |
John Crockett, Washoe County Library System, Reno, Nevada |
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Brooke |
if there's an agenda for this someplace, Nancy, feel free to #link to it |
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NancyK |
How do I use #info? |
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NancyK |
Oh #info i see |
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kf |
you just start the line with it #info something something |
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slef |
NancyK: just type it at the start of the line that you want to appear in the minutes |
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drojf |
#info Mirko Tietgen, Koha hobbyist, lurking |
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slef |
kf: snap |
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Joubu |
good bye all ! |
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LBA |
#info Lori Ayre, The Galecia Group is here for the meeting! |
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NancyK |
#info No agenda, I just want to get a consensus on number of days for the conference to get us started |
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kf |
:) |
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Brooke |
#topic How Many Days Do We Want Conference |
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Topic for #koha is now How Many Days Do We Want Conference |
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kf |
I thought 3 days were pretty nice in Edinburgh |
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NancyK |
#info It was suggested we do 3 days conference, 1 day for a trip, and 3 days hackfest. |
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Bruce |
I thought Edinburgh was 3-1-3? |
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kf |
personally I think the hackfest was over too soon... but probably not really a problem of days :) |
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kf |
Bruce: 3 days conf - 1 day break - 3 days hackfest |
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kf |
conference with presentations, more official |
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NancyK |
#info Anyone have a different idea? |
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kf |
hackfest more developer oriented, some technical presentations, lots of hacking and testing |
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Bruce |
3-1-3 sounds like a good approach, especially if there's room for add-ons at either end. |
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slef |
kf: oh sure, we could just work like that forever, but room hire budget and customers will get empty and upset - or the other way round! |
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kf |
on the day between we went to see the city... it was bad weather, but we can't blame slef for that :) |
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drojf |
i do |
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kf |
blame slef? |
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drojf |
sure :P |
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kf |
there were some activities suggested for the day in between, like going fishing, but that didn't work out sadly |
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Brooke |
we can blame slef for anything at all. I do it all the time. ;) |
| 15:10 |
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kf |
not enough participants |
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Bruce |
Perhaps we can try to organize smaller events for the break day. |
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NancyK |
#info I plan on getting bids from local hotels, so I probably need a definite number of days. |
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Brooke |
did anyone disagree with 3-1-3 or have another approach? |
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Bruce |
One thing that may have a major impact on hotel cost is whether we span a weekend or not. |
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kf |
I think people didn't mind to stay for the hackfest on the weekend |
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drojf |
hard to have no weekend with 3-1-3 |
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kf |
not sure how that is in US |
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Bruce |
That higher weekend cost may itself argue against a 7-day span. |
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slef |
hey, slef was up the volcano, in a gale, in the clouds... I wanted good weather too! |
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kf |
maybe have the main conf in the week? |
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margo |
i like the idea of main conf during the week |
| 15:12 |
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NancyK |
#info I am planning on having the hotel of our choice whip something up. We can also put up a lot of links for people to explore on their own |
| 15:12 |
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Bruce |
But weekend costs differ by city, and I don't know Reno. |
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Brooke |
I'd advise a Tuesday or Wednesday start since it's usually not terrible on travel costs |
| 15:12 |
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Todd |
Reno is always running specials at casinos. |
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kf |
lots of people will only want to attend the main part I guess |
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slef |
7-day stays also trigger special rates in some cities... I leave it to local knowledge |
| 15:13 |
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Bruce |
Specials yes, but not often 7-night specials. |
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kf |
while people travelling from far away and people intersted in developing might stay for the hackfest |
| 15:13 |
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Todd |
Remember that LAke Tahoe is just minutes away so staying the weekewnd wou.,d be nice for many of you who can |
| 15:13 |
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kf |
I wouldn't plan for a shorter thing I think |
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NancyK |
#info What if weh start on a Wednesday -Fri for the conference, and the day off on a Saturday, and then hackfest Sun thru Tuesday? |
| 15:13 |
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Brooke |
it's entirely possible to split locations so that hackfest is near to conference but not in the same building in case folks never went to conference |
| 15:14 |
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kf |
NancyK: I think that could work |
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Bruce |
We may be able to find a university space with good connectivity for the hackfest. |
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kf |
Bruce: sounds nice :) |
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Brooke |
sounds good nancy and bruce |
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slef |
NancyK: you know your town best and have to live with any constraints, so your call IMO, but sounds OK to me. |
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kf |
I think internet, tables, chairs... not much more needed :) |
| 15:14 |
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Todd |
We have goods connectivity at LIbraries with public wireless |
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Bruce |
Saturday may not be the best day for the day off--more crowded at many venues. |
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kf |
maybe friday? |
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LBA |
I agree with Bruce. Too busy on Saturday to make that your one day off. |
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kf |
slef: was it friday in edinburgh? |
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Bruce |
Library wireless is unlikely to be able to handle the hammering the network would get from a major hackfest. |
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slef |
kf: yes. |
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NancyK |
#info UNR is just up the street a few blocks from the main downtown hotels. We also have a Junior college, my sister works there.;) |
| 15:15 |
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Todd |
Bruce are you from around Reno / Lake Tahoe? |
| 15:15 |
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slef |
kf: Thursday in Wellington IIRC |
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Bruce |
Jr. colleges are often easier to work with on such matters, but talk to the head librarians at both for an in. |
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slef |
kf: It would have been Thursday in edinburgh but it was a holiday week. |
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Bruce |
I am presently from Orlando, but have spent a lot of time in Portola. |
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* slef |
looks up Portola |
| 15:16 |
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Bruce |
I've also run conventions all over the US & Canada. |
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slef |
Portola, a 1998 album by Rose Melberg |
| 15:16 |
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Bruce |
Portola's just over the hill in California, an easy drive from Reno. |
| 15:16 |
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NancyK |
#info About how many can we expect for hackfest? |
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LBA |
Besides, gambling, there's lots of wonderful trails for hiking and mountain biking. Much nicer when fewer people around. |
| 15:17 |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
slef? |
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wahanui |
i guess slef is probably busy so please use http://www.software.coop/contact/ if you need him for work |
| 15:17 |
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Bruce |
I was planning on organizing a trip to the Portola Railway Museum. Anybody want to drive a locomotive? |
| 15:17 |
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Brooke |
some of us are most definitely not big gambling fans ;) |
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slef |
NancyK: I'd guess 65-70% of conference, or 55 people, depending on conference numbers. |
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LBA |
I'll bet some are....:) |
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* slef |
rethinks |
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NancyK |
#info We can also go to Virginia City (wild west) |
| 15:18 |
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slef |
4 tables of 8, plus some floaters... maybe more like 40-50 |
| 15:18 |
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Todd |
POrtaola is a very easy drive about 45 minutes |
| 15:19 |
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slef |
that's my memory of kohacon12... there might be better notes somewhere but I'm mid-relocation |
| 15:19 |
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kf |
I think in US maybe more supported libraries attending the main conf |
| 15:19 |
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Brooke |
so backtracking a bit, can we get a proper vote on 3-1-3? +1? |
| 15:19 |
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kf |
so the % might be a big off |
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kf |
a bit off |
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druthb |
+1 |
| 15:19 |
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Bruce |
Yes, "+1?" |
| 15:19 |
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slef |
Bruce: not bothered about driving, but happy to visit + ride on old trains. LBA's mountain-biking idea would also be good. |
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Todd |
+1 for an extra day off? |
| 15:19 |
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slef |
+1 to 3-1-3 |
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wahanui |
-3 |
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slef |
wahanui: you stay out of this! |
| 15:20 |
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wahanui |
slef: what? |
| 15:20 |
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kf |
+1 for 3-1-3 |
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margo |
brooke, can you remind us how to vote, for those that don't hang out here |
| 15:20 |
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kf |
:) if our hosts are ok with it |
| 15:20 |
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Brooke |
+1 is a vote for |
| 15:20 |
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drojf |
+1 (3-1-3) |
| 15:20 |
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Bruce |
+1 for 3-1-3 |
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margo |
+1 (3-1-3) |
| 15:20 |
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slef |
wahanui: apache voting? |
| 15:20 |
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wahanui |
slef: i haven't a clue |
| 15:20 |
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slef |
wahanui: voting? |
| 15:20 |
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wahanui |
i think voting is broken https://landfill.bugzilla.org/[…]#v40_feat_vot_ext |
| 15:21 |
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Bruce |
But I'm willing to reconsider my vote once we get pricing back from the hotels. |
| 15:21 |
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kf |
makes sense |
| 15:21 |
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Brooke |
#agreed 3 Day Conference, 1 Day off, 3 Day Hackfest |
| 15:21 |
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slef |
apache voting is described at http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html if you've not seen it before (many haven't) |
| 15:21 |
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Brooke |
I think everyone is willing to do so if there's a wide gap |
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talljoy |
#info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions |
| 15:22 |
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Brooke |
#topic Roadtrip Locations |
| 15:22 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadtrip Locations |
| 15:22 |
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slef |
oh sure... practicalities can override everything, as kohacon12 showed ;) |
| 15:22 |
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Bruce |
One feature of Reno hotels I learned last time I booked a conference there -- the price of rooms facing the RR tracks is markedly lower than the price of rooms facing away. |
| 15:23 |
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Bruce |
Check that any bids specify the side of the hotel for the rooms. |
| 15:23 |
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Todd |
You go Bruce |
| 15:23 |
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Brooke |
while we're checking bids, ensure that whatever the hotel bids is less than hotels.com and expedia, plox |
| 15:23 |
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Todd |
THe rail runs under the city now |
| 15:23 |
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Bruce |
I was booking a railroad conference, so we *wanted* the noisy rooms by the tracks; us, maybe not. |
| 15:23 |
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Todd |
hahahaha |
| 15:23 |
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NancyK |
#info the train goes underground on Virginia Street |
| 15:23 |
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Bruce |
Okay, been a few years. |
| 15:24 |
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kf |
NancyK: wifi would be nice for the conf - not sure if that can be included in a deal |
| 15:24 |
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Todd |
noisy...maybe not. |
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kf |
and not sure how it works in the US in hotels |
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Brooke |
kf: most american hotels have free wifi |
| 15:24 |
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Brooke |
even the crappy ones like Red Roof |
| 15:24 |
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Bruce |
I think many of us will require Internet access in our rooms. I'm a solo librarian, and have to stay in touch. |
| 15:24 |
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slef |
Brooke: like to tell Marriott that? :-/ |
| 15:24 |
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NancyK |
#info We are going to insist on wifi, and whatever else we can get. theyare looking for business. |
| 15:25 |
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slef |
$14.95/day :-/ |
| 15:25 |
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LBA |
I vote we avoid Marriotts...for numerous reasons. |
| 15:25 |
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NancyK |
#info maybe not quite that good |
| 15:25 |
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Bruce |
Don't look just at raw room cost, or even room+wifi. You also need to consider the cost of meeting space. Often, with enough room nights, the space can be free. |
| 15:26 |
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Brooke |
meh, toss all of the venues into a cage and let em duke it out. It is Vegas Jr. |
| 15:26 |
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slef |
let them bid... Marriotts and Hyatts have problems IMO, though. |
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bag |
#info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater Solutions |
| 15:26 |
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Todd |
Grand Sierra Resort is always willing to deal |
| 15:26 |
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NancyK |
#info We might have a library branch with good wireless for hackfest |
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kf |
NancyK++ :) |
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Bruce |
Note: Good wireless <> big Internet pipeline. |
| 15:27 |
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Brooke |
we like visiting Libraries. |
| 15:27 |
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Todd |
Also we have Harrahs in the middle of downtown among others |
| 15:27 |
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talljoy |
libraries good. |
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* Brooke |
is going back to eNZed for the Te Takere opening. :) |
| 15:27 |
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talljoy |
casino libraries? |
| 15:27 |
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* talljoy |
gets her nerd on |
| 15:27 |
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Todd |
casinos and libraries...cats and dogs |
| 15:28 |
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NancyK |
#info we may end up as casino libraries if we keep losing budget. |
| 15:28 |
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Bruce |
It may be prudent for us to bring our own server to the Hackfest. Low latency, and low impact on our host's Internet service. |
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libsysguy |
#info Elliott Davis, ByWater Solutions |
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JoeLib001 |
Hello. :-) |
| 15:28 |
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Brooke |
howdy |
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wahanui |
hola, Brooke |
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Todd |
our public library pipe is 75 down and 10 up |
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JoeLib001 |
Is the 3.8.4 debian package patch out yet? |
| 15:29 |
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JoeLib001 |
I seem to be having issues finding it at the link provided. |
| 15:29 |
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Todd |
squirrel |
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libsysguy |
hey JoeLib001 there is a meeting going on atm |
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libsysguy |
you may want to come back in a bit |
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JoeLib001 |
Oh, sorry. :-) |
| 15:30 |
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Brooke |
it's no problem mate |
| 15:30 |
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Brooke |
okay, so the basic skeleton is sorted |
| 15:30 |
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NancyK |
#info So did we vote for 3-1-3? |
| 15:30 |
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Brooke |
and we had a small roadtrip discussion |
| 15:31 |
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kf |
JoeLib001: it was only released yesterday - I think eythian will do it as soon as he can (packages) |
| 15:31 |
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Brooke |
yep, that's why I #agreed it |
| 15:31 |
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NancyK |
#info Any other discussion for now on Koha con 13? |
| 15:31 |
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Bruce |
I assume program discussions will be taken up later? |
| 15:32 |
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NancyK |
#info Yes |
| 15:32 |
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kf |
we can't wait for next kohacon :) |
| 15:32 |
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Bruce |
What are the range of dates we'll consider? The whole month of October, with no overlap? |
| 15:32 |
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kf |
it's always too long between seeing all the koha people |
| 15:32 |
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Brooke |
kf++ |
| 15:32 |
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talljoy |
kohacon++ |
| 15:32 |
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libsysguy |
I think i can go to this one!! |
| 15:33 |
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NancyK |
to work then on the hotel proposals. I am using the first week in Oct. |
| 15:33 |
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Bruce |
Offering more weeks will give us more flexibility, especially given the short notice (for convention space). |
| 15:34 |
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NancyK |
ok |
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koyauni |
anyone can help with getting Plesk to find the installed Koha application, please |
| 15:34 |
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Bruce |
I suggest we let them bid on all four weeks in October, and see what we get. |
| 15:34 |
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NancyK |
will do |
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Todd |
good idea bruce |
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Brooke |
it's more than a year of notice Bruce |
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Bruce |
Yes. Most conventions book five years out. |
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* druthb |
makes a note to pack her poking stick^W^Wcane, since libsysguy will be at KohaCon13. |
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* talljoy |
will bring the trout |
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libsysguy |
old lady cane druthb :p |
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kf |
shouldn't you be nicer to your youngest coworker? |
| 15:35 |
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talljoy |
just trying to train him up right! ;-) |
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* Bruce |
supposes he should bring a hankie to put on his head. |
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* druthb |
cackles, and yells "get off my lawn!" |
| 15:36 |
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slef |
druthb: http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2012-08-21/ |
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kf |
NancyK: now they got all distracted :) |
| 15:36 |
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kf |
maybe end the meeting? |
| 15:36 |
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druthb |
self++ |
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NancyK |
yes, how do I do that? |
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koyauni |
it sounds that I need a vhosts.conf file but what should be written in there, |
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kf |
say it and Brooke will do it - or type #endmeeting I think |
| 15:36 |
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Brooke |
we all done? How about setting a time and date for the next meeting? |
| 15:37 |
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Bruce |
Or should we just let Nancy call one once she hears back from some hotels? |
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kf |
sounds good |
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talljoy |
either way |
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wahanui |
either way is workable though imho |
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druthb |
shut up, wahanui. |
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talljoy |
thanks wahanui |
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wahanui |
druthb: i'm not following you... |
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NancyK |
I liike Bruce's suggestion |
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* druthb |
gets out her sharpened pool cue, and goes after wahanui. |
| 15:38 |
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NancyK |
#end meeting |
| 15:38 |
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Brooke |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The Next General Meeting is 5 September 18 UTC |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Aug 22 15:36:23 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-22-15.00.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]2-08-22-15.00.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]22-15.00.log.html |
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Todd |
I wanna party with you guys |
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talljoy |
w00t! |
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Brooke |
Todd: be careful what you wish for buddy |
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Brooke |
<---- Waters down Whiskey with Gin. |
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kf |
we are quite crazy people :) |
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Bruce |
I suppose I had best go put my name on the wiki. |
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kf |
NancyK: let us know if we can help with something |
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Bruce |
Do I need a password for that? |
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slef |
koyauni: try copying what is in koha-httpd.conf and putting it into the vhost.conf but I don't remember getting koha working with Plesk. They fight I think. |
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Todd |
You know my wish now...:D |
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slef |
Bruce: if wiki.koha-community.org, registration required sadly, yes |
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Bruce |
Will do. |
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slef |
Bruce: spammers-- |
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libsysguy |
JoeLib001: you're free to ask away now :D |
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Todd |
What?? Waters down Whiskey w Gin...bring it on!! |
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slef |
Bruce: ask around here if you hit any problems |
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Bruce |
Will do, slef, thanks. |
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Bruce |
Cheers! |
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koyauni |
self: where do I find the koha-httpd.conf on Debian |
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Brooke |
halfhourish meeting isn't so bad |
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Brooke |
to DuPont nahahahahaha |
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slef |
koyauni: if you installed from packages, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ or if you installed from tar.gz, /etc/koha |
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koyauni |
was package, and did find only my instantname file library, I do not see any library-httpd.conf |
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koyauni |
still does not work http://library.koyauniversity.org/ |
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slef |
koyauni: basically, Plesk interferes with the usual debian management of the webserver; and the packages interface with usual debian management. You probably need to ask Plesk support how to configure web apps to work with it. |
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slef |
koyauni: someone sold you Plesk, so now they can pay to support it, instead of me ;-) |
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koyauni |
<self> someone has asked this questiopn and answer #8 mention that but does not tell you what to put in there :( http://forum.parallels.com/sho[…]read.php?t=111215 |
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koyauni |
does koha has a forum so people can answer each other |
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koyauni |
I also asked the tread is old and I am not sure if that person will come back and answer |
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drojf |
koyauni: there is a mailing list for koha. although it looks like you rather need a plesk list than a koha list |
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drojf |
do i have to restart apache or something if i want to put my own xslt stylesheet in XSLTDetailsDisplay ? it does not seem to make any difference what i enter there |
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drojf |
in koha 3.8.3 that is |
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francharb |
have a good day #koha |
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slef |
@query suggestion basket number |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7593 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , merging bib records loses connection to order line |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, laurence.lefaucheur, Needs Signoff , Batch modifications for Biblios |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Localization for Perl scripts and modules |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5680 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , When deleting an order, delete attached items, and if applicable biblio |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5473 normal, P2, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Stable , 952 fields should be filled in by Acquisitions |
| 16:50 |
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slef |
huginn: no good |
| 16:50 |
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huginn |
slef: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 16:50 |
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slef |
@query basket number |
| 16:50 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7627 major, P1 - high, ---, henridamien, NEW , Editing of saved invoice |
| 16:50 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6730 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , basket number should show the number entered by the library |
| 16:50 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7573 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Show basket number linked on fund search |
| 16:50 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7593 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , merging bib records loses connection to order line |
| 16:50 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7659 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , "Import all" for a staged file doesn't check for duplicates |
| 16:52 |
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mtompset |
self: @query basket case (having to sort through these results)? |
| 16:53 |
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slef |
mtompset: threw it back on list instead |
| 16:54 |
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mtompset |
What is RDA? |
| 16:54 |
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wahanui |
i think RDA is a room in a twisty maze of standards |
| 16:55 |
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mtompset |
Now remembers asking that before. DOH! |
| 16:55 |
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slef |
Resource Description and Access, the title of the third revision of the Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules, a library cataloguing standard used to support the discovery, identification and employment of information resources |
| 16:55 |
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wajasu |
xyzzy |
| 16:56 |
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mtompset |
Now the description wahanui makes sense. :) |
| 16:56 |
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slef |
sygyzy? |
| 16:56 |
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slef |
Caledonian Antisyzygy? |
| 16:58 |
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wajasu |
i'm playing with making message_queue's content oclumn varbinary instead of test, so we can store unicode/utf8 without it chopping off the rest of the text for overdue notices. |
| 16:59 |
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wajasu |
test/text |
| 16:59 |
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mtompset |
I frequently make that typo. test/html. ;) |
| 17:02 |
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wajasu |
now to set up an MTA in my debian to test email. |
| 17:02 |
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drojf |
could you setup mine too? |
| 17:04 |
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wajasu |
i've only done postfix (mail out) |
| 17:05 |
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drojf |
i can live with that ;) |
| 17:05 |
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wajasu |
are you on debian? |
| 17:05 |
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drojf |
yes |
| 17:05 |
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mtompset |
no, but I'm listening in anyways. ;) |
| 17:07 |
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wajasu |
what i will do is work on mine. then i'll keep the parts that need customizing, and paste it for you later for your own reference. i have to get lunch now, but will work on it when i get back. |
| 17:07 |
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drojf |
cool! |
| 17:08 |
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drojf |
and i think i found my xsl problem too |
| 17:10 |
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slef |
drojf: ooh wht was? |
| 17:10 |
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mtompset |
xsl problem? |
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| 17:12 |
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drojf |
severe case of d'oh and tired brain. i kept changing the staff client xsl settings and looked at the opac for changes in the layout |
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slef |
mtompset: see drojf at 17:11 |
| 17:12 |
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slef |
or an hour ago basically |
| 17:12 |
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slef |
drojf: oh yeah, we have days like that |
| 17:12 |
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mtompset |
And hour ago... Okay... scrolling back. |
| 17:12 |
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drojf |
but once you find it and know you are not crazy… i like that feeling ;) |
| 17:12 |
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maximep |
is it me or 3.8.4 has "our $VERSION = '3.08.03.000';" in kohaversion.pl ? |
| 17:13 |
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slef |
maximep: check on gitweb? |
| 17:13 |
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mtompset |
gitweb? |
| 17:13 |
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wahanui |
gitweb is up |
| 17:13 |
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mtompset |
where is gitweb? |
| 17:13 |
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wahanui |
well, gitweb is up |
| 17:13 |
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maximep |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]94efda23777f26424 |
| 17:13 |
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maximep |
right ? |
| 17:14 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 17:14 |
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mtj |
maximep, yeah, its a typo, i think |
| 17:15 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 17:15 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 28.0°C (7:00 PM CEST on August 22, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 17:18 |
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slef |
mtj: that's polite ;) |
| 17:20 |
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JoeLib001 |
I take it the meeting is over? |
| 17:21 |
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JoeLib001 |
Ah, yeah. hehe. :-) |
| 17:26 |
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rangi |
maximep: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]65acb0fd21ee91699 |
| 17:26 |
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rangi |
its right in the tarball |
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| 17:28 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
| 17:29 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, rangi |
| 17:29 |
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cait |
hi rangi hi mtompset |
| 17:30 |
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mtompset |
Yes, JoeLib001. You missed the meeting regarding the KohaCon13 (I think that was the meeting, right?) |
| 17:31 |
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JoeLib001 |
Ah, no I interrupted it with a quetion. ;-) 'cause I didn't know it was going on. |
| 17:31 |
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JoeLib001 |
Someone messaged me though. :-) |
| 17:32 |
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maximep |
rangi: hmmm. coult it be it was done after the creation of the git tag ? |
| 17:33 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 17:34 |
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maximep |
ah ok. Well I will just point directly to the commit instead of the tag. No problems =) |
| 17:35 |
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drojf |
hi rangi |
| 17:39 |
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slef |
list admins? |
| 17:40 |
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slef |
there's a subscriber bouncing messily - I think they might be @mail2world.com |
| 17:40 |
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slef |
can someone nomail them, please? |
| 17:42 |
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slef |
emailed |
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oleonard |
The needs signoff list is back up to 66? It was down to 57 yesterday! |
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mtompset |
Hey, 9 more isn't so bad. Glad to hear it dropped to 57. |
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oleonard |
congratulations to cait for knocking kados into the #3 spot: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ |
| 19:23 |
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cait |
lol |
| 19:23 |
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cait |
my pleasure |
| 19:24 |
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maximep |
i'm almost in the top 50! :D |
| 19:24 |
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* oleonard |
should start using more and bigger words, gotta keep up with the competition. Purple monkey dishwasher. |
| 19:24 |
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cait |
lol |
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druthb |
antidisestablishmentarianism. |
| 19:27 |
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rangi |
Morning again |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
morning |
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rangi |
Oleonard: they are pretty much all from failed qa back to needs signoff |
| 19:30 |
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* cait |
mutters something about the dashboard being mean because if you fail something you get no points |
| 19:31 |
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rangi |
Hmm should I read the 3.8.4 thread? Or am I being blamed for releasing versions again? |
| 19:31 |
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drojf |
cait: been there ;) |
| 19:32 |
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rangi |
Cait: send a patch :-P |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
no, because that gives no point on the dashboard! |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
:P |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
I'm gonna write a patch -1 for every complaint ! |
| 19:35 |
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cait |
hmpf |
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drojf |
lol |
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* cait |
sends apologizing cookies |
| 19:36 |
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drojf |
wow, there are cookies for everything |
| 19:36 |
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rangi |
Hehe |
| 19:36 |
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cait |
of course there are |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
haven't you learned that important lesson of life yet? |
| 19:37 |
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drojf |
i begin to understand. when is this KohaCait taking place i heard of? |
| 19:38 |
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druthb |
! |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
Hmm how did the meeting go? |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
it went well I think |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
only suggestion was 3+1+3 |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
and we voted for that :) |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
Yay |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
NancyK wanted to get offers from the hotels next |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
and maybe hackfest in a library :) |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
It's served us well the last 3 years |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
Cool |
| 19:40 |
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rangi |
We should set up local mirrors for git |
| 19:40 |
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cait |
drojf: the workshop is next week ;) |
| 19:40 |
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rangi |
In the library that way upstream bandwidth is not an issue |
| 19:40 |
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drojf |
i might go there last minute just for fun :P |
| 19:41 |
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drojf |
i could be a surprise speaker or something ;) |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
we have one space left right now |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
Hmm eythian is on his way back to konstanz now? |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
I think so |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
haven't heard much from him today |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
drojf: take ur raspberry pi |
| 19:43 |
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drojf |
ha! great idea :) |
| 19:43 |
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drojf |
my battery is in the mail. i think i have most parts for self sustaining koha in a box then |
| 19:44 |
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drojf |
well, the sun is probably not enough here but i can't change that |
| 19:45 |
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cait |
drojf: wind energy? |
| 19:46 |
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drojf |
too expensive to catch/ too crazy to build |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
ooh |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
rangi: can I get some homework? :) |
| 19:48 |
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rangi |
Any of the ones that just changed back to needs signoff are good to test again |
| 19:48 |
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cait |
k |
| 19:49 |
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rangi |
Hmm and 5327 does that have any? |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
oleonard: oh, you still want me to test the inactive funds? |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
bug 5327 |
| 19:49 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, bart.tj, Passed QA , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 19:49 |
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oleonard |
No we got it figured out cait |
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cait |
ok |
| 19:49 |
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oleonard |
Thanks |
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| 19:50 |
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rangi |
Any @catalyst ones I can't signoff so those are good too |
| 19:52 |
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rangi |
Thanks signofferers |
| 19:53 |
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rangi |
Ok my stop bbiab |
| 19:58 |
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drojf |
wow we are still down to 65 "needs signoff"? that's cool! |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
it was 56 when i went to sleep :) |
| 20:02 |
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drojf |
i wish i had more koha playtime |
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rangi |
can anyone remember the name of the guy from zambia at kohacon12? |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
isn't it on the list of participants? |
| 20:11 |
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rangi |
maybe? |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
hi kathryn |
| 20:11 |
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rangi |
wheres that? |
| 20:11 |
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wahanui |
well, that is pulled from the fields |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
rangi: I have the printed one at work - but you need it now I guess? |
| 20:11 |
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* cait |
tries to summon slef |
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rangi |
:) |
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koyauni |
hi |
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wahanui |
hello, koyauni |
| 20:16 |
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kathryn |
hiya cait :) |
| 20:17 |
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koyauni |
anyone in mode to help me solve an issue with Koha on Debian 6+ running Plesk 11, please |
| 20:17 |
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koyauni |
I have post to Plesk but no one seams to asnwer |
| 20:19 |
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rangi |
koyauni: unfortunately no one here has ever used plesk |
| 20:23 |
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koyauni |
I think Plesk does not do anything here, I just need to get the virtual domain created in koha to join with domain created in Plesk, this guys mentiond some and I have collected here working on it but not sure if I do it right please see |
| 20:24 |
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koyauni |
http://kl1p.com/koyauni |
| 20:25 |
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rangi |
i have no idea, ive never used plesk, with standard debian, you don't need to do any of that stuff |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
koyauni: what is the ip of your server that koha is running on? |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
and what is the url |
| 20:26 |
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wahanui |
the url is probably horrid :) |
| 20:27 |
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* oleonard |
hushes wahanui |
| 20:30 |
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koyauni |
here it is 88.198.51.202, but this is shared IP and my main domain is koyauniversity.org koha is should point to library.koyauniversity.org |
| 20:31 |
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rangi |
on the command line of server |
| 20:31 |
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rangi |
can you type |
| 20:31 |
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rangi |
dig library.koyauniversity.org |
| 20:31 |
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cait |
interesting, our z3950servers table in the database has a column for an icon |
| 20:31 |
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rangi |
and also go to paste.koha-community.org |
| 20:32 |
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rangi |
and paste in the entirity of the file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library |
| 20:32 |
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rangi |
please |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha, see you tomorrow |
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drojf |
cait: icon for the z39.50 server? |
| 20:33 |
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drojf |
bye oleonard |
| 20:34 |
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rangi |
libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/gramatik[…]let-me-down-remix |
| 20:35 |
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cait |
drojf: seems so :) I doubt there is code backing that column |
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koyauni |
I did what sort of info need from the out put |
| 20:35 |
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libsysguy |
taking it back rangi? |
| 20:35 |
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koyauni |
yes |
| 20:35 |
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drojf |
cait: we should have some :) |
| 20:35 |
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rangi |
koyauni: what is the ip number it gives you with that command? |
| 20:36 |
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koyauni |
rangi, please see it at the bottom here http://kl1p.com/koyauni |
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rangi |
that doesnt look like the output of the dig command to me |
| 20:39 |
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rangi |
nor is it the entirity of the file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library |
| 20:39 |
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rangi |
i am trying to help, but I can't really without your help |
| 20:39 |
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koyauni |
I have just added the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library at http://kl1p.com/koyauni |
| 20:40 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 20:40 |
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koyauni |
that was the dig I ran |
| 20:40 |
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rangi |
hmm you typoed |
| 20:40 |
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koyauni |
many thanks for the help |
| 20:40 |
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rangi |
dig library.kkoyauniversity.org |
| 20:40 |
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rangi |
you need |
| 20:40 |
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koyauni |
ok lets try agin |
| 20:40 |
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rangi |
dig library.koyauniversity.org |
| 20:41 |
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koyauni |
replaced it please look now |
| 20:41 |
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rangi |
and then please try replacing |
| 20:42 |
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rangi |
<VirtualHost *:80> |
| 20:42 |
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rangi |
with |
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rangi |
<VirtualHost 88.198.51.202:80> |
| 20:42 |
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rangi |
then |
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rangi |
apache2ctl restart |
| 20:42 |
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koyauni |
ok, let me do that please |
| 20:43 |
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rangi |
if that doesnt work, then its definitely something to do with plesk and im out of ideas |
| 20:50 |
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koyauni |
It did not, still showing default page http://library.koyauniversity.org/ |
| 20:51 |
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koyauni |
I think somehow it should be some sort of shortcut of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library in the subdomain directory that pointing to koha |
| 20:51 |
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rangi |
yep then its a plesk thing, you have to do something in plesk, it doesnt work the way normal apache2 on debian works, sorry I have no more ideas |
| 20:51 |
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drojf |
Please login to https://library.koyauniversity.org:8443 to receive instructions on setting up your website |
| 20:52 |
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koyauni |
I am logged in to the panel |
| 20:53 |
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drojf |
that's what it says on your website. sorry if i was stating the obvious, i don't know plesk |
| 20:55 |
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koyauni |
thanks you for trying to help guys! |
| 21:00 |
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rangi |
bug 6945 .. for an easy signoff |
| 21:00 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6945 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Needs Signoff , Add a link to show a MARC preview in the normal view |
| 21:03 |
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koyauni |
I put this on Plesk forum let see if anyone can help http://forum.parallels.com/sho[…]636848#post636848 |
| 21:03 |
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drojf |
koyauni: wild guess regarding the htaccess file: did you enable mod_rewrite? |
| 21:04 |
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koyauni |
I did put a .htaccess but I got error 500 |
| 21:04 |
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koyauni |
how do I check mod_rewrite is enabled |
| 21:04 |
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drojf |
koyauni: yes, i think it need the apache module rewrite. did you enable this module? |
| 21:05 |
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drojf |
you can enable it usingf |
| 21:05 |
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drojf |
oops |
| 21:05 |
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drojf |
using sudo a2enmod rewrite |
| 21:07 |
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koyauni |
root koyauniversity ~ # a2enmod rewrite Module rewrite already enabled |
| 21:07 |
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rangi |
maximep: fixed the tag |
| 21:07 |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=refs/heads/3.8.x |
| 21:08 |
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drojf |
koyauni: ok, was worth a try |
| 21:09 |
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koyauni |
rangi, that is already been enabled |
| 21:09 |
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koyauni |
:) |
| 21:10 |
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koyauni |
is this correct to be added to .htaccess file |
| 21:10 |
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koyauni |
<IfModule mod_rewrite.c> RewriteEngine on RewriteBase / RewriteRule ^$ opac/htdocs/ [L] RewriteRule (.*) opac/htdocs/$1 [L] </IfModule> |
| 21:10 |
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koyauni |
it is in mid page here http://kl1p.com/koyauni |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
no you dont need a .htaccess file with koha |
| 21:11 |
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maximep |
rangi++ |
| 21:11 |
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maximep |
thanks |
| 21:11 |
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koyauni |
no that goes in the subdomain folder to point it to the koha site I guess |
| 21:11 |
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rangi |
i cant really help, because this is all to do with how this server is set up with plesk |
| 21:11 |
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koyauni |
well I wrote to them lte see if I get any response |
| 21:11 |
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rangi |
koyauni: no, not for normal koha, you dont need a .htaccess file at all with that |
| 21:13 |
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rangi |
any more suggestions we give you are just random, because plesk is doing something, to show that site is unconfigured page, and we know nothing about plesk |
| 21:20 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
| 21:20 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on August 23, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:21 |
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rangi |
not even ow |
| 21:23 |
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rangi |
http://www.urbandictionary.com[…]ot%20even%20ow%21 |
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cait |
gnah. |
| 21:32 |
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rangi |
cait++ #good testing |
| 21:32 |
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rangi |
gnah? |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
I found 7 annoying bugs testing one litte problem. |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
that was a sound of unhappiness and frustration. |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
I mean... 7! |
| 21:33 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
hey trea |
| 21:34 |
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trea |
rangi, hi |
| 21:35 |
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wajasu |
meh |
| 21:35 |
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rangi |
wajasu: for the record, i think you are on the wrong track converting columns to varbinary, we store unicode just fine everywhere else :) |
| 21:36 |
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* rangi |
hopes you moved on from that theory |
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rangi |
trea: how's things? |
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trea |
moving along - fun with SIP |
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rangi |
ah yep |
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rangi |
another standard that isnt |
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trea |
ikr |
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koyauni |
rangi: read what Plesk says here http://forum.parallels.com/sho[…]sted=1#post636853 |
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koyauni |
very classic :) |
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koyauni |
that is the answer to my post |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
good answer |
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rangi |
(your answer) |
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rangi |
libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/madeon/madeon-finale |
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libsysguy |
I already like this one much better :p |
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rangi |
how can you not like the beatles? sheesh |
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libsysguy |
im a hater, what can I say |
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rangi |
http://soundcloud.com/featurec[…]y-harder-than-you |
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libsysguy |
haha now this is more my style |
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ala_3vo |
Hello #koha |
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rangi |
hi ala_3vo |
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ala_3vo |
Hi rangi: I'm trying to set up the z39.50 server. Can you help? |
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rangi |
hmm set up in what way, to listen on a public ip and port? |
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ala_3vo |
Our cataloging section tried to do cataloging with z39.50 search but it has no link. |
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rangi |
oh, so not the server |
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rangi |
you want to set up some targets to do a z3950 search of ? |
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ala_3vo |
I'm not sure, this is new for me. |
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rangi |
from what you said, it sounds like that |
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rangi |
what version of koha? |
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ala_3vo |
3.8 |
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rangi |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n.html#z3950admin |
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ala_3vo |
I read something on editing the koha-conf.xml. Will this work? |
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rangi |
no |
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rangi |
thats for the server |
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rangi |
thats so other people can search your catalogue |
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ala_3vo |
okay, its clear |
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rangi |
cool |
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ala_3vo |
I'll try looking into the link you gave. |
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mtj |
opac carousel, with book-covers from a flickr group -> http://head.kohaaloha.com/ |
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rangi |
fancy pants! |
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mtj |
im still not sure how useful it is… with flickr intergration |
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rangi |
my worry would be its kinda hackable no? |
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rangi |
if you know the tag, you can get an opac displaying some dodgy stuff? |
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mtj |
afaik, nope... |
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mtj |
its not searching on a 'tag', but a 'group' |
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rangi |
ahh |
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rangi |
and you can control membership? |
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wajasu |
ok. i got my postfix set up. and generated an overdue notice. the email text contains this: Fine: £1.50 so sure, the varbinary helped us from eating the unicode/utf8, but its still not right with  there. |
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mtj |
yep, thats the plan |
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rangi |
varbinary is the wrong way to go, getring rid of the  |
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rangi |
is the way |
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wajasu |
yup |
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rangi |
a varbinary change will not be accepted into koha (just fyi) |
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wajasu |
the  was 1st, and probably cause mysql to cut the rest. |
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rangi |
yep |
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wajasu |
i know. |
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wajasu |
but its knowledge worth having. |
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mtj |
but, librarian needs to add 'bibnumber' to every uploaded flickr record, somehow... |
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rangi |
mtj: cool, now your next challenge |
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rangi |
using the facility that lets you pull json reports out of koha |
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mtj |
thats the catch to the flickr situ, that step is somewhat manual :/ |
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rangi |
do it straight out of koha, and grab covers from either local covers, amazona etc what ever the syspref is |
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rangi |
ie, in master you can mark a report public, then you can fetch that in the opac |
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rangi |
using opac/svc/report |
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rangi |
and it hands out json |
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mtj |
ooooh, ok |
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rangi |
so you could write a report that is just |
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rangi |
select 12,343,535,34334 |
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rangi |
etc |
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rangi |
to get the biblionumbers |
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rangi |
then the librarians could just edit the report |
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* rangi |
hopes he is making sense |
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mtj |
yep, tho im still catching up a little, i think... |
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rangi |
bug 8256 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Reports webservice should allow selection by name |
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mtj |
hmm, theres a few good ways to spin this thing |
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rangi |
using the saved reports would allow it to be done within koha |
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rangi |
you could even then use the rand function in sql |
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rangi |
so it got different ones |
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rangi |
or order by accession date |
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rangi |
etc |
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rangi |
all sorts of things |
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mtj |
yep, im thinking of a way for a librarian to 'select' a bib to 'show on carousel', etc.... |
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mtj |
tho, some sql to generate that json output would also suffice… |
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mtj |
fyi, flickr has a book-cover group, with 45k images, not bad -> http://www.flickr.com/groups/bookcovers/pool/ |
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mtj |
could be worth using flickr data for koha, i reckon |
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rangi |
whats the license on it? |
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mtj |
rangi, pass on that… :P |
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rangi |
mtj: kinda important huh? :) |
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mtj |
i hadnt really considered it yet :/ |
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rangi |
yeah annoyingly we have to |
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mtj |
hmm, i guess theres a whole list of stuff you can't do with flickr data…? |
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mtj |
(which is usually all the fun stuff you wanna do with data) |
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rangi |
depends if its licensed or not |
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rangi |
lots is cc-sa or cc-by-sa those you can use |
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JoeLib001 |
Have a good day everyone. :-) |
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mtj |
i assume its possible to tell flickr to *not* return tricky-licensed photos |
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mtj |
(could be a quickfix) |
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rangi |
yep, you can do that in the advanced search |
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mtj |
ah yep, i got it…. |
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bag |
heya mtj and rangi |
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mtj |
wordup, big.B |
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rangi |
hey bag |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuf[…]t-destroys-fresco <-- oops |
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bag |
@wunder wellington nz |
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bag |
@wunder Santa Barbara, CA |
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