IRC log for #koha, 2012-08-19

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02:35 vinz3g joined #koha
02:35 vinz3g hi, good night
02:36 vinz3g how can change the password general of koha 3.8?
02:38 Zazu joined #koha
02:38 vinz3g :)
02:39 vinz3g hola
02:39 Zazu Howdy! Just checking out the channel for next Wednesday's KohaCon13 planning session.
02:40 vinz3g hay alguien?
02:40 Zazu Can anyone estimate the attendance at KohaCons?
02:41 vinz3g good night
02:42 Zazu Buenas noche.
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05:09 * Oak waves
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07:55 cait hi #koha
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11:25 dpavlin 
11:32 cait hi dpavlin :)
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13:34 * jcamins follows the Twitter link.
13:34 jcamins I have absolutely no idea what that person wants.
13:34 jcamins "There's no matching fields and therefore no matching searches" <-- anyone have any idea what that person wants?
13:37 cait no idea :(
13:38 jcamins I'll point him toward the manual. Maybe that will help.
13:38 cait yeah
13:38 cait I have no better idea
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14:17 Oak cait
14:18 jcamins Oak.
14:18 cait Oak :)
14:18 jcamins libsysguy.
14:18 wahanui libsysguy is probably Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer
14:18 Oak jcamins :)
14:19 Oak tomorrow is Eid here in Pakistan :)
14:19 Oak
14:20 cait :)
14:21 Oak how is marcus?
14:22 jcamins Eid al-mubarak.
14:22 Oak thank you jcamins \o/
14:22 Oak *hug*
14:23 Oak God bless you all
14:23 Oak and Koha
14:24 Oak Amen.
14:24 jcamins :)
14:25 Oak :]
14:26 cait Oak: I think he is doing well :)
14:26 Oak you think? tch tch. bad aunt.
14:26 Oak :)
14:27 Oak call tonight and ask.
14:27 Oak and how are you?
14:28 Oak how is everyone here? :)
14:29 Oak oh well, i'll get back to my book now.
14:30 cait sorry, bit busy :)
14:30 cait I will call
14:30 cait have a good reading :)
14:32 * jcamins is well.
14:35 libsysguy hey jcamins did you need me?
14:36 libsysguy or did you just want to see what wizzyrea had tagged for me
14:36 jcamins libsysguy: we were just saying the names of people who had signed on recently. :)
14:37 libsysguy ahh yeah…the new updated for my mac signs me in when it checks for nightly updates
14:38 jcamins Ah.
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14:40 jcamins libsysguy: and here I thought you were rewriting Auth this weekend.
14:50 libsysguy haha no not this weekend
14:51 dpavlin d
14:51 jcamins e
14:51 dpavlin :-)
14:54 * cait waves
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15:14 jcamins Wow. chris_n's network connection is not doing well.
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16:26 mbalmer it is remarkably easy to access Koha data from third party applications, using a MySQL client library..
16:28 jcamins mbalmer: of course. But editing that data is probably not such a good idea.
16:29 mbalmer works like a charm.
16:29 mbalmer but I wouldn't be to much surprised if Koha doesn't get locking right.
16:30 jcamins Probably not. There are lots of places we should use transactions but don't.
16:31 mbalmer yeah, Koha is "prayware" ;)
16:32 jcamins Fortunately unless you do something dumb like editing data outside of Koha you have pretty good chances.
16:33 mbalmer well, I do such dumb things, and it works surprisingly well (but I am only touching the fees, no circulation data or so)
16:34 jcamins If you don't use partial payments, the accountslines table is probably basically transaction-safe.
16:34 jcamins Of course, if you are editing things outside of Koha, when someone actually fixes accountlines you'll be high and dry.
16:36 mbalmer the db should allow concurrent connections.
16:36 jcamins Yeah.
16:36 jcamins I mean when the database schema changes.
16:37 jcamins It won't be part of the QA process to make sure that your non-Koha program is adjusted to work with the new schema.
16:37 mbalmer well, of course I have to track what's going on and adapt my stuff accordingly...
16:37 mbalmer that is my job, certainly not QAs job
16:37 jcamins The place where editing the database from outside of Koha gets really problematic is biblio and biblioitems.
16:38 mbalmer but that is the core of Koha, where Koha is the best application to deal with that data.
16:38 jcamins Right.
16:39 jcamins That's usually what people are talking about when they say they edited the database from outside Koha, though.
16:39 jcamins It always ends in tears. ;)
16:39 mbalmer I am more into payment systems, sth Koha is not good at...
16:41 mbalmer if I had to get at circulation stuff etc, I'd rather use the SIP protocol
16:44 jcamins Yeah, that'd be my recommendation.
16:45 jcamins mbalmer: incidentally, I learned that Evergreen uses Postgres directly for searching their catalogs.
16:45 jcamins Thought you might be interested in seeing how it worked.
16:45 jcamins :)
16:46 mbalmer I am loosely following evergreen.  But then I have my marc21 datatype in PostgreSQL, which allows me to do fancy things as well.
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16:56 mveron Hi #koha
16:56 mveron @wunder basel
16:56 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 33.1°C (6:51 PM CEST on August 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
16:56 mbalmer hi mveron, it's to hot in aargau as well...
16:57 mbalmer @wunder frick
16:57 huginn mbalmer: The current temperature in Erlinsbach, Switzerland is 35.1°C (5:59 PM CEST on August 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
16:58 mveron Oh, 2 more...
16:59 libsysguy joined #koha
16:59 libsysguy yo…anybody on that uses overdrive?
17:00 * jcamins doesn't.
17:00 jcamins Why?
17:00 libsysguy i think I discovered a loophole
17:00 jcamins You know that Overdrive is broken by the current SIP?
17:00 libsysguy haha no I didn't
17:00 * libsysguy hates SIP
17:00 jcamins Yeah, the current SIP server works with self checkout machines in France but not Overdrive.
17:01 libsysguy I wanted to see if anybody else had noticed that if you turn off the WiFi on your Kindle that you could keep the book as long as your want
17:01 libsysguy but I was curious if that book came back as available on overdrive
17:02 jcamins lol
17:03 libsysguy we were having a debate about if over breakfast
17:03 libsysguy maybe I could ask liz or owen
17:03 jcamins Yes, that's definitely something I'd want to discuss over a Sunday morning brunch.
17:03 jcamins Yeah, they both use Overdrive.
17:03 libsysguy I guess I'll wait till monday
17:04 libsysguy lol
17:04 libsysguy and yeah we're weird like that
17:04 jcamins Well, I spent the morning working on the search rewrite RFC.
17:05 libsysguy ok you are more strange than I
17:05 libsysguy at least I put my calendar re-write down for a bit
17:05 jcamins lol
17:07 Oak @wunder islamabad
17:07 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 30.0°C (10:00 PM PKT on August 19, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
17:08 Oak good night :)
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17:21 mtompset greetings, #koha.
17:32 jcamins_away @wunder 10018
17:32 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in Hunter College, Upper East Side, New York, New York is 23.8°C (1:29 PM EDT on August 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
17:35 mtompset Greetings, jcamins_away
17:35 mtompset Release schedule looking on time?
17:45 mbalmer joined #koha
17:49 mtompset Greetings, mbalmer
17:51 mtompset exit
17:51 mtompset Oops... Wrong window.
17:51 mtompset Bye. :)
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20:35 eythian g'morning kathryn
20:35 kathryn oh allo eythian!
20:35 cait good morning kathryn
20:35 eythian I tell you, this summer thing is pretty hot.
20:35 kathryn heya cait!
20:35 cait it is
20:35 kathryn oh shush now
20:36 cait it's too warm
20:36 * kathryn is happily looking forward to the first week of spring thank you very much
20:37 eythian It better be warm when I get back, or there'll be Words Had.
20:37 kathryn wtih....???
20:37 eythian @wunder frankfurt
20:37 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Frankfurt, Germany is 26.0°C (10:20 PM CEST on August 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
20:37 kathryn @wunder wellington, nz
20:37 huginn kathryn: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
20:37 eythian kathryn: I haven't decided yet.
20:38 kathryn *quiver*
20:38 cait kathryn: if you want, we can keep him here :P
20:38 eythian yeah, I would do if it were 11.
20:38 eythian *to
20:39 kathryn hehe
20:41 kathryn ps eythian touche, I suppose
20:42 eythian heh
20:44 rangi morning
20:45 eythian hiya
20:45 eythian <-- I think the outline for my first workshop talk is compete, cait
20:45 cait eythian++ :)
20:45 cait great job :)
20:48 eythian My phone is saying "Battery health: overheat" :*(
20:48 eythian and refusing to charge
20:48 rangi :(
20:48 cait :(
20:48 eythian it's seriously warm in here
20:49 cait no ac?
20:49 eythian yeah, it's on power
20:49 eythian it's just not charging because it's too hot
20:49 eythian mind you, I'm wifi tethering through it, that won't help
20:49 cait no wifi at the hotel?
20:50 eythian Telekom
20:50 cait meh.
20:50 eythian which is a bit much to pay for
20:51 cait yeah
20:51 cait it ususally is
20:51 cait maybe add translating to the way non-developers can contribute?
20:52 cait hm maybe we should mention kohacon somewhere?
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20:53 eythian whoops, irc client went a bit funny
20:53 eythian anyway, added that.
20:54 cait cool
20:54 cait saw both?
20:54 eythian Nope, just translations
20:55 cait I was suggesting mentioning kohacon somewhere :) but not sure where it would fit in
20:55 eythian hmm I was going to actually, but forgot
20:55 eythian I have a place for it
20:59 eythian added
20:59 cait cool :)
21:00 eythian OK, think I'm going to turn things off and let them cool down a bit.
21:01 rangi good idea
21:01 cait hope it charges after cooling down
21:02 eythian I think it will, it's running a lot of things at the moment, which isn't ideal in a hot room.
21:03 eythian Probably should have taken the case off it too...
21:03 eythian no matter
21:03 eythian cait: uploaded the latest version to that link, btw
21:03 eythian catch you all later
21:04 rangi cya later
21:04 cait have fun tomorrow :)
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21:17 Space_Librarian o/
21:18 rangi hi Space_Librarian
21:19 Space_Librarian morena rangi
21:20 cait hi Space_Librarian
21:20 Space_Librarian hey cait! :)
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23:15 Shane-S I am filling out the CSV file for patron import, is the username "userid"? I am trying to match it be the same as our kids Active Directory usernames and passwords
23:17 rangi yup
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23:19 Shane-S k thanks, ID made me think it was a #
23:19 Shane-S however I have the borrower and card the same
23:20 Shane-S I did that to save time, our Student System assigns unique numbers, so figure they can match :)
23:22 Shane-S rangi: if a patron type code of "K" for kid has a minimum age of 5, but I have no date of birth, will that fail?
23:24 rangi dunno, only one way to find out
23:24 Shane-S yeah, almost ready for an import I am messing with the card creator atm :P
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