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Space_Librarian |
o/ |
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rangi |
hi Space_Librarian |
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Space_Librarian |
howdy stranger |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #121: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/121/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8520: fix authority display in staff client |
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jenkins_koha |
* dcook: Bug 8455 - Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8455 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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Brooke |
friday? |
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wahanui |
i think friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
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mtompset |
Who is teaching wahanui Rebecca Black? |
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mtompset |
Who? |
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Brooke |
>.> |
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Brooke |
<.< |
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* Brooke |
points to gmcharlt. |
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mtompset |
Why don't I believe you? :) |
| 02:08 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, Brooke |
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Brooke |
how |
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Brooke |
s it? |
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mtompset |
I'll probably attempt a packages install of koha later today. |
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Brooke |
:) |
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mtompset |
I'm familiar with the tarball method. I have done a git install. Need to do a packages install to make sure I understand all three methods. |
| 02:11 |
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Brooke |
is debian your OS? |
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mtompset |
No, Ubuntu. |
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mtompset |
Chosen for organizational reasons. |
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mtompset |
More Ubuntu support in our organization than Debian. |
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* Brooke |
nods. |
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Space_Librarian |
Ave! :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, Space_Librarian |
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mtompset |
which space? |
| 02:15 |
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mtompset |
bug 8517 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8517 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Script to automatically generate package lists |
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Space_Librarian |
mtompset, it's a long story. |
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Brooke |
Salve quid agis? |
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Space_Librarian |
Eadem fabula... |
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* Brooke |
settles in. |
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mtompset |
Now have the conversation in Klingon. ;) |
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ibeardslee |
Brooke: been watching the fencing? |
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mtompset |
Greetings, ibeardslee |
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Brooke |
they do not show the freggin fencing over here >:( |
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Brooke |
I've been following the scores, though |
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ala_3v0 |
I'm trying to add attributes and identifiers. |
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ala_3v0 |
can that be restricted to certain staffs |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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jransom |
hola |
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wahanui |
privet, jransom |
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jransom |
what does privet mean wahanui? |
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jransom |
Wahanui what does provet mean? |
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wahanui |
jransom: bugger all, i dunno |
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jransom |
lol |
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Space_Librarian |
lol |
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jransom |
just as ai thought |
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Space_Librarian |
Who has been teaching wahanui about weeds? |
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Brooke |
roflmao |
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jransom |
privet .... |
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jransom |
some pom I bet |
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rangi |
its russian |
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rangi |
means hello |
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jransom |
well there you go! |
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Space_Librarian |
yet, it's not in google's top 25 results. :p lol |
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ala_3v0 |
can attributes and identifiers be restricted to certain staffs? |
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jransom |
oh well it can't exist then |
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Space_Librarian |
no, because Google knows all. *rolls eyes* |
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mtompset |
Actually, if you thought it was a foreign language, http://translate.google.com/ would be a better place to start. |
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mtompset |
Though, why wasn't it cyrillic? Привет |
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mtompset |
translate google failed to recognize romanized transliterations. |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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Shane-S |
Anyone around that would know where the OPAC search box code can be found it's size in the element "style" tag so I can't affect it via CSS |
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mtj |
Shane-S: opac.css is a great place to start... |
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Space_Librarian |
toodle pip all - have a lovely weekend. :) |
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Shane-S |
mtj: I found it, it is hard coded in masthead.inc |
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Shane-S |
I took the size % out and put in #transl1{} in my CSS file to allow me to alter it. |
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Shane-S |
I will write myself a note to consider submitting a patch at some point |
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mtj |
cool, yeah - the plan is for every element to have a 'id' value |
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mtj |
could be a nice toy-project to identify which elements are missing id's |
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mtj |
... and perhaps, script a way to generate id's for them |
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Shane-S |
it has an ID, but it was hard coded in the element's style="" tag, which is the top level or I should say it over rides the style sheet |
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* mtompset |
likes the sounds of this conversation, because it implies that a newer version of Koha will be better CSS-able. :) |
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Shane-S |
well I am off to bed, hopefully I will have time to patch some CSS stuff |
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mtj |
Shane-S: yeah, thats a no-no, thats waiting to be fixed |
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mtj |
... and a script looking for hardcoded 'style' elements, would be revealing too |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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mtj |
heya cait |
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cait |
hi mtj :) |
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sdawa |
hi |
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sdawa |
i am library assistant from Bhutan |
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sdawa |
here to seek help and support |
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francharb |
Good morning #Koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait, mtj, and francharb. |
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cait |
hi mtompset |
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francharb |
hello mtompset |
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mtompset |
So no one was able to respond to sdawa? |
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cait |
was too slow |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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mtompset |
Greetings, mbalmer and magnuse |
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mbalmer |
morning |
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cait |
hi magnuse and mbalmer :) |
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cait |
lots of m* here... my autocomplete fails more and more :) |
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magnuse |
sorry about that ;-) |
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cait |
hee |
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cait |
silly |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
testing awesome bug 8209 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
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emagnus |
yay |
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cait |
ok, bbl :) |
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mtompset |
mtj makes me have to type mtj. It's horrible the lack of autocomplete. :) |
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gaetan_B |
hello :) |
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magnuse |
bonjour |
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magnuse |
huh, why am i getting logs of circ events in per-day log files in /tmp after i turned on memcached? |
| 07:28 |
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magnuse |
and why am i not seeing any effect of <template_cache_dir>/tmp/koha/sksk</template_cache_dir>? |
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paul_p |
hello #koha |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
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magnuse |
last day before holiday? |
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paul_p |
hi magnuse. Yep, last day before vacations :D :D |
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magnuse |
woohoo :-) |
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mtompset |
How many hours till you "escape"? ;) |
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magnuse |
hehe, that always cracks me up |
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magnuse |
mikromarc is a norwegian proprietary ils :-) |
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eythian |
why are they sending stuff to/about Koha? |
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magnuse |
well they have a http://paper.li/ thing that picks up stuff from/about koha on twitter :-) |
| 08:45 |
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magnuse |
eythian: any idea why i'm getting logs of circ events in per-day log files in /tmp after i turned on memcached? the filenames look like koha_esme_2012-08-03.log, so they reflect the names of the koha instances i have created with the packages |
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eythian |
magnuse: I've seen that (I think even without memcached, I think.) Don;t know what causes it though. |
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magnuse |
hm, interesting |
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wahanui |
i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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magnuse |
sure wahanui |
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magnuse |
yeah, might be independent of memcached, it just started happening at about the same time i turned memcahed on |
| 08:50 |
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eythian |
logs in /tmp is a terrible idea anyway. |
| 08:54 |
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magnuse |
yeah |
| 08:55 |
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magnuse |
and a quick check seems to indicate that the info in the files is not available in the log viewer in the staff client |
| 08:55 |
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eythian |
magnuse: I think it's fine-related |
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eythian |
the header is: cardnumber categorycode surname firstname email phone address citystate itemnumber barcode date_due type days_overdue fine |
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magnuse |
ah yes, that could be |
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magnuse |
hm, i somehow got the impression it was stuff being returned |
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magnuse |
but a log of fines/overdues makes total sense |
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magnuse |
/usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl seems to be the culprit |
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paul_p |
mtompset = 6 hours before escaping ;-) |
| 09:01 |
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paul_p |
for now, trying to do something that will please jenkins !! |
| 09:06 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 09:08 |
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eythian |
magnuse: how does it work out the instance name? |
| 09:08 |
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eythian |
suppose it could be the database name or something... |
| 09:09 |
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magnuse |
eythian: yup: my $name = C4::Context->config('database'); |
| 09:10 |
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magnuse |
and i don't think it had anything to do with memcached |
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magnuse |
i think i had fines.pl commented out in /etc/cron.daily/koha-common but that got overwritten when i upgraded to 3.8.3 |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
and the reason i was just seeing a couple of days worth of log files is that i rebooted the server a couple days ago |
| 09:11 |
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eythian |
ah right |
| 09:11 |
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eythian |
makes sense |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
mystery solved :-) |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
but fines should probably write to something like /var/spool/koha ? |
| 09:12 |
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eythian |
it's a log, if it wants to be logging it should go in /var/log/koha/_instancename_ |
| 09:13 |
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eythian |
having a logbase in koha-conf.xml or some such would help that. |
| 09:13 |
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magnuse |
there is an --out option to fines.pl, so we could set that when the packages set up the cronjobs, perhaps |
| 09:13 |
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eythian |
that's a good idea |
| 09:14 |
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magnuse |
without --out, the location is determined by File::Spec->tmpdir |
| 09:15 |
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eythian |
OK. Sounds like --out is what we need then. The catch is that the cronjob doesn't know the instancename it's working on :) |
| 09:16 |
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eythian |
however, having koha-foreach do a search-replace on the command line may be a good idea anyway |
| 09:16 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that would be very cool! (and useful) |
| 09:21 |
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magnuse |
eythian: i can report bugs for this, if you don't mind? |
| 09:21 |
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eythian |
go for it |
| 09:21 |
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magnuse |
want to be the assignee? i won't have time to look at it for a while |
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| 09:24 |
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eythian |
Just leave it as default |
| 09:25 |
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eythian |
It'll get looked at some time in the next few years perhaps ;) |
| 09:26 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 09:26 |
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magnuse |
i was hoping to lure you into a commitment here ;-) |
| 09:27 |
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magnuse |
bug 8566 |
| 09:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8566 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Enable koha-foreach to insert the instancename into commands |
| 09:30 |
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eythian |
anyone good at CSS, I want to change an attribute on a span with class name "weight" inside a div with class "results_summary" ... how can I specify that> |
| 09:30 |
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eythian |
? |
| 09:31 |
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eythian |
(and why do people call things dumb names like "weight" that could well be duplicated elsewhere) |
| 09:32 |
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magnuse |
isn't that just ".results_summary .weight {}"? |
| 09:32 |
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eythian |
maybe, that's why I'm asking :) |
| 09:34 |
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eythian |
div.results_summary span.weight { |
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eythian |
display: none; |
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eythian |
} |
| 09:34 |
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eythian |
that's what I wanted :) |
| 09:34 |
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eythian |
(I think exactly the same as what you said really) |
| 09:34 |
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magnuse |
ah, it's for the tag cloud? |
| 09:35 |
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magnuse |
yeah, you are being a little more specific than me |
| 09:35 |
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eythian |
no, it's displaying the weight number in the search results |
| 09:35 |
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magnuse |
oh, ok |
| 09:35 |
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eythian |
and the weight number is confusing because it's not really meaningful |
| 09:35 |
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eythian |
(unless you know what weight is etc. |
| 09:35 |
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eythian |
) |
| 09:36 |
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eythian |
everyone expects it to be the number of results you get if you click the tag, which it isn't. |
| 09:37 |
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magnuse |
bug 8567 |
| 09:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8567 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Set output directory for fines.pl in cron config created by the packages |
| 09:49 |
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paul_p |
there should be only 1 remaining jenkins complain, see bug 6448 |
| 09:49 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6448 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , EAN-13 barcode support |
| 09:52 |
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eythian |
Anyone had Koha 3.8.3 behaving strange with diacritics/smart quotes? |
| 09:52 |
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eythian |
it's doing that double-enconding thing sometimes. |
| 09:54 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #800 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 29 days ago) |
| 09:55 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8385: Dirty patch to make tt_valid.t happy <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]11b961c19fe534306> |
| 10:22 |
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magnuse |
eythian: what strange behaviour are you seeing? |
| 10:24 |
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eythian |
http://imgur.com/2duaq <-- magnuse, this |
| 10:25 |
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eythian |
it's correct in the database |
| 10:27 |
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magnuse |
ah |
| 10:28 |
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magnuse |
i have not seen it, but i have not looked for it either... |
| 10:28 |
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magnuse |
is it only on the detail display, or in result lists too? |
| 10:29 |
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eythian |
results too |
| 10:31 |
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eythian |
It's the second person who's reported this |
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magnuse |
eythian: a couple of searches for common norwegian words with "norwegian" letters in them does not reveal any problems, but it might be better hidden... |
| 10:37 |
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eythian |
hmm |
| 10:37 |
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eythian |
I wonder why it's showing up for us then... |
| 10:54 |
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mtompset |
double encoding thing? |
| 10:54 |
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mtompset |
Nasty. |
| 10:55 |
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mtompset |
I wonder what SELECT variables LIKE "%colla%"; looks like. |
| 10:55 |
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mtompset |
And what SELECT variables LIKE "%char%"; looks like. |
| 10:58 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #800: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/800/ |
| 10:58 |
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jenkins_koha |
jonathan.druart: Bug 8385: Dirty patch to make tt_valid.t happy |
| 10:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8385 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , searchengine/solr/indexes.tt fails 'prove ./xt/tt_valid.t' test |
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kf |
encoding problems on a friday afternoon? |
| 11:16 |
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jcamins |
o/ |
| 11:16 |
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jcamins |
kf: glad to see you approved of bug 8209. |
| 11:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
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mtompset |
Greetings, jcamins. |
| 11:20 |
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mtompset |
Tonight's challenge... a package install under Ubuntu. :) |
| 11:21 |
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mtompset |
packages? |
| 11:21 |
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wahanui |
packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 11:23 |
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mtompset |
There... fixed it to redirect properly. |
| 11:23 |
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mtompset |
double redirections don't work. |
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kf |
jcamins: I did :) |
| 11:31 |
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kf |
jcamins: do you approve of my notes and test plan? |
| 11:33 |
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jcamins |
I do. :) |
| 11:40 |
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mtompset |
Is there a way to WWW::Mechanize the test plan? ;) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, nengard. |
| 11:42 |
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mtompset |
Do you come with catalogers? :) |
| 11:43 |
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kf |
mtompset: hm maybe, but jcamins dev comes with unit tests too :) |
| 11:44 |
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nengard |
hello all |
| 11:44 |
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nengard |
nope, i'm done training |
| 11:44 |
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nengard |
it's just me |
| 11:44 |
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mtompset |
Did you get my message from the other day about Appendix G? |
| 11:49 |
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mtompset |
Which reminds me... I need to fix another double redirection. |
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mtompset |
or two... |
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mtompset |
There... Koha 3.2 and 3.4 now redirect to 3.8 |
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nengard |
mtompset I don't think I did ? was it here? or email? I didn't check my email yet :) |
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mtompset |
I apologize... it was FB. |
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mtompset |
My brain wasn't working that day. Forgot to look for a koha-docs mailing list, or your email on bug reports or other messages in other groups. |
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* mtompset |
grins. |
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mtompset |
I'm hoping this package install goes well... I already fear there are gaps in the wiki page. |
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eythian |
mtompset: that's not valid SQL, so it looks like an error :) |
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eythian |
mtompset: at the moment, the packages wiki page is more a reference than a guide. |
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mtompset |
what's the difference between apache2-mpm-worker and apache2-mpm-itk? |
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eythian |
mtompset: itk allows for processes to change their user id |
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mtompset |
Well, if I have problems... I'm going to flush it out. |
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mtompset |
(add to it) |
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mtompset |
what do you mean it isn't valid SQL. |
| 12:28 |
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mtompset |
It's valid MySQL. |
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mtompset |
OOPS... |
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eythian |
> SELECT variables LIKE "%colla%"; |
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mtompset |
SHOW |
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eythian |
ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'variables' in 'field list' |
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eythian |
:) |
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mtompset |
not SELECT. |
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eythian |
oh ah |
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eythian |
| collation_connection | latin1_swedish_ci | |
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eythian |
| collation_database | latin1_swedish_ci | |
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eythian |
| collation_server | latin1_swedish_ci | |
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eythian |
how odd |
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mtompset |
That's wrong! |
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eythian |
yeah, I have a lot of latin1 in there |
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eythian |
I wonder what's changed... |
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mtompset |
the my.cnf |
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mtompset |
That's where I'd go first. |
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eythian |
nothing obvious in there |
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eythian |
my tables are all CHARSET=utf8 however. |
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mtompset |
Oh... that's the other thing... |
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mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_on_Ubuntu#MySQL |
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mtompset |
That's why I wrote that messy long section. |
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mtompset |
The client-handshake... |
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mtompset |
totally messes up the collation. |
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mtompset |
When I do a tarball install... I know where the files are. |
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mtompset |
When I do a git install... I know where the files are... |
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mtompset |
(both are similar... a directory name I choose) |
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eythian |
hmm, setting the client details doesn't work on my setup (and I can't modify the server details) |
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* mtompset |
shrugs, "That's Debian for ya." |
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* mtompset |
grins. |
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eythian |
no, it's because I'm not a DBA so don't have access to our database server :) |
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mtompset |
Ah... the mysql server is on a different machine? |
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eythian |
yeah |
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eythian |
well, in production, not in my test env |
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* mtompset |
nods. |
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mtompset |
Sorry I can't help more. |
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mtompset |
So... back to my long question... where are the files after an apt-get install koha-common? |
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eythian |
it varies |
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mtompset |
I'm assuming the koha-common has no perl Makefile.PL step? |
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eythian |
but mostly under /usr/share/koha |
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eythian |
it does, when the packages are built |
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eythian |
dpkg -L koha-common will give you all the details |
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mtompset |
Okay, that may come in handy. |
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mtompset |
So, does an upgrade simply become a matter of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade for future installs? |
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eythian |
yeah |
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mtompset |
Or is there still a build step? |
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eythian |
no |
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eythian |
build all happens when the packages are created |
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mtompset |
Ooooh! configuration step of package does the build. |
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eythian |
what do you mean by builld. because I think it's different to what I mean |
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mtompset |
perl Makefile.PL; make; make test; sudo make install |
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eythian |
yeah, that happens on my machine, not on yours |
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mtompset |
So, this install won't have any directory from which to build. |
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mtompset |
Because it is pre-built. |
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eythian |
right |
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eythian |
like all packages |
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mtompset |
which is why you need to edit the koha-sites.conf, because the pre-built version reads that to set things up. |
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eythian |
yeah, sorta. One of these days I'm going to have it ask questions on installation to pre-populate that. |
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mtompset |
That would be a good enhancement. |
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mtompset |
since koha-common comes from k-c.org, if I disable that repo, I could do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade without actually triggering a koha upgrade, correct? |
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eythian |
yeah |
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eythian |
although, it's better to pin it |
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kf |
oleonard++ |
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* oleonard |
waves |
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mtompset |
pin it? |
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magnuse |
hm, on 3.8.3 when memcached is activated it's supposed to re-read koha-con.xml every 10 minutes or something, right? |
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magnuse |
*koha-conf.xml |
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eythian |
http://www.debian.org/doc/manu[…]kg_basics.en.html <-- mtompset, 7.12. I use the first method |
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eythian |
(also, I think pinning is the wrong term actually) |
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mtompset |
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto the Apt/Dpkg method is a different syntax to what you linked to, but the same thing generally. |
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eythian |
pinning is more about picking newer versions of things from one repo without taking everything |
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eythian |
fixed the double encoding problem |
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magnuse |
yay |
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eythian |
turns out to be actual bad data from a strange earlier incarnation of the database |
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eythian |
(that I'd fixed, but that caused the encoding to get confused) |
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mtompset |
so it's your own fault? ;) |
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eythian |
Sorta :) |
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mtompset |
NOOOOOO! Not triggers for man-db! |
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mtompset |
I really dislike that... So slow. :) |
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mtompset |
Good day, tcohen. |
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tcohen |
hi mtompset |
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mtompset |
I'm tinkering with a koha-common install. What are you up to today? |
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mtompset |
Interesting... the koha-common didn't force a kernel upgrade on me. :) |
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eythian |
...why would it? |
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mtompset |
because the tarball did? |
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eythian |
what? |
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eythian |
how would the tarball do that? |
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mtompset |
I haven't tried to figure out why, but it does. |
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eythian |
but it can't |
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eythian |
the tarball doesn't even know what apt or a kernel is |
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mtompset |
dselect may. |
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mtompset |
when you do the build from the tarball, it triggers some package somewhere that triggers a kernel upgrade. |
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mtompset |
take a look at install_misc/ubuntu.12.04.packages |
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mtompset |
that may give you clues why. I haven't had time to make sense of it. |
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eythian |
Well, if you have apt stuff happening, and a kernel update is available I could see it prompting you. |
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mtompset |
right. |
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eythian |
But I can't see it forcing the kernel devs to sit down and make a new one for you just to install koha with :) |
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mtompset |
But seeing as the kernel is NOT listed in the install set, I don't know what it triggering it to show up in the list of things to install. |
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mtompset |
what IS triggering. |
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eythian |
Well, presumably part of the process triggers an apt update |
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eythian |
and trhen when it makes everything installed, it does updates at the same time |
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mtompset |
yes, but if I apt-get update and apt-get upgrade... the kernel is typically held back. |
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eythian |
hmm, I've not noticed that |
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mtompset |
At least under Ubuntu. |
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mtompset |
Anyways... okay, I'm a little stuck now. |
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mtompset |
I've got the koha-common installed |
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mtompset |
I edit'd the file with .localdomain as suggested. |
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mtompset |
I now have a DB which I want to use. |
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mtompset |
From our existing system. |
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eythian |
I recommend not doing that |
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mtompset |
oh? |
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eythian |
or, setting everything up and having the packages set up the db then importing the content into it |
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mtompset |
Then how would I get the data in? |
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eythian |
just import the dump, I mean |
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eythian |
it's pretty easy |
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mtompset |
how does that relate to the default.sql.gz? |
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eythian |
default.sql.gz is intended if you have a template you like to include on all your initial instances. |
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mtompset |
Ah. |
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mtompset |
Initial dummy data. |
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eythian |
yeah |
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mtompset |
Okay... so then I shouldn't have a default.sql.gz... okay |
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eythian |
yeah, just if you want it |
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mtompset |
empty string, or delete line? |
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eythian |
either works, probably delete line |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) |
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kf |
@quote random |
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huginn |
kf: Quote #118: "wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us!" (added by druthb at 09:39 PM, January 25, 2011) |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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kf |
@quote random |
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huginn |
kf: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 11:27 PM, October 04, 2009) |
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mtompset |
Do I even know an instance name before I run koha-create? |
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mtompset |
or does instance name = db name? |
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eythian |
mtompset: instance name is the name of your library, or whatever |
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mtompset |
it has no relation to the dbname? |
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eythian |
it does, in the sense that the dbname is derived from it |
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mtompset |
unless otherwise specified in the /etc/koha/passwd file? |
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eythian |
yeah, I think. I've never used that file. |
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mtompset |
Well, it seems like a good time to test it then. ;) |
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eythian |
It needs to be a bit less prominent, that mention of the passwd file. It's not really used most of the time. |
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mtompset |
But most of the time, you are starting from scratch. |
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mtompset |
Importing MARC data. |
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mtompset |
Or doing data entry. |
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mtompset |
I've got a 3.6.3 db that I want to import. |
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mtompset |
I noticed the page doesn't specify the instance name for the koha-create. Will koha-create prompt for one? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: no, you have to choose one. |
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eythian |
mtompset: you make one up |
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eythian |
mtompset: also, just import the db dump after you've set things up. It'll ensure everything is nice and consistent. |
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jcamins |
Ooh. |
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jcamins |
joubu++ # I didn't realize you could prevent links from causing the page to scroll to the top |
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mtompset |
So run the koha-create before I even try to get the DB in... okay. |
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mtompset |
Here goes nothing. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: See also http://css-tricks.com/return-f[…]-prevent-default/ if you want to go deeper |
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jcamins |
Interesting. |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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jcamins |
wahanui: good, this time. |
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wahanui |
jcamins: i'm not following you... |
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mtompset |
koha-create didn't catch that I had an extra parameter. DOH! |
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jcamins |
mtompset: why did you have an extra parameter? |
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mtompset |
because I wanted to match the user name, db name, and password to the exist DB that I have. |
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eythian |
mtompset: you can't do that like that |
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eythian |
koha-create doesn't understand extra paremeters |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... man page says --database is a valid parameter. |
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eythian |
oh right, I forgot about those. |
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eythian |
I was imagining that you just chucked them on to the end |
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mtompset |
that's what I did the first time. |
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eythian |
(as in, without option names) |
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eythian |
hwoever, --database should work I think |
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mtompset |
so then I did a koha-remove <first item> |
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jcamins |
--database is valid, but I don't see any way to specify username/password. |
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mtompset |
passwdfile |
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jcamins |
Yes, but not on the command line. |
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eythian |
jcamins: with --passwdfile |
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mtompset |
koha-create doesn't recognize --database even though the man page has it. |
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jcamins |
eythian: that still requires a file. You can't just add extra parameters. |
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eythian |
oh, yeah. |
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mtompset |
Yes, but I created the file. |
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mtompset |
I'm assuming it is the format mentioned on the wiki page. |
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* magnuse |
wanders off into the deep woods |
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jcamins |
Oh, that should work fine, then. I use a koha.passwd file. |
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mtompset |
dropped the --database, koha-create worked. |
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mtompset |
Let's see what it did... |
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mtompset |
Nope... not what I expected... |
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jcamins |
A) what were you expecting, and B) what did it do? |
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jcamins |
(warning: the issue is probably with A) |
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mtompset |
I was it expect it to read the passwd file for the information. |
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jcamins |
Okay, that's a reasonable expectation. |
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jcamins |
That's how it works for me. |
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mtompset |
It didn't. |
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jcamins |
What did it do? |
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mtompset |
created it like I told it nothing. |
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mtompset |
and now I have a user I can't delete. |
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jcamins |
Hey, the passwd file allows you to specify a database, too. I forgot about that because I don't use it. |
| 14:20 |
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mtompset |
Yes, I filled it out, and it didn't work as I expected. |
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mtompset |
I suppose I really like tarballs right about now. :) |
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jcamins |
Why can't you delete the user? |
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mtompset |
it says it's logged in. |
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eythian |
I still think you're better off just loading a db dump into the database. |
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mtompset |
But then the password won't match. |
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jcamins |
I would agree with eythian. |
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eythian |
sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common stop will stop its processes |
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eythian |
mtompset: it makes a password |
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jcamins |
mtompset: what do you mean? koha-create creates the password. |
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jcamins |
Which will be random, as it should be. |
| 14:23 |
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mtompset |
It won't match the db dump's password. |
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eythian |
db dumps don't have passwords |
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mtompset |
they do if they are just a dump of every DB. |
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mtompset |
(hence mysql, etc.) |
| 14:23 |
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eythian |
then don't do that. |
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eythian |
just dump the koha db you want |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I'm not sure what you're doing, but that's not the right way to do it. |
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jcamins |
If you are transferring Koha, just use the DB. |
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mtompset |
jcamins, I figured that much out. |
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jcamins |
If you are trying to clone an entire system, you should just use some sort of system imaging software. |
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mtompset |
Not trying to clone. |
| 14:24 |
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mtompset |
Trying to take data from production tarball install... |
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mtompset |
and get it into a koha-common install. |
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jcamins |
Right, that's very easy. |
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mtompset |
I'm failing. |
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jcamins |
mysqldump kohadb > file.sql |
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mtompset |
It must not be easy. |
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jcamins |
koha-create --create-db mylibrary |
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mtompset |
Yes... I'll have to limit my dump. |
| 14:25 |
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jcamins |
Import file.sql into koha_mylibrary. |
| 14:25 |
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mtompset |
-- that came out wrong. |
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jcamins |
Other than a full backup, I don't think there is any reason to dump all your databases, including mysql. |
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jcamins |
It makes you expect that other settings are going to be exactly the same. |
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mtompset |
And clearly I can't expect. |
| 14:27 |
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mtompset |
So... off to trim mysqldump to just one DB. |
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jcamins |
Right. If nothing else, crontabs will be different. As we saw on the mailing list, this can cause no end of confusion when you try to "fix" it. |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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mtompset |
This is why I'm trying a packages install. |
| 14:31 |
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mtompset |
I want to understand the differences in install types. |
| 14:33 |
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mtompset |
I will also help me tweak the Koha on Ubuntu wiki page to better reflect problems. And to warn people, "Don't follow this if you are doing a packages install!" |
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mtompset |
the packages install leaves the koha instance database empty until you do a web install? |
| 14:35 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 14:35 |
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eythian |
it has to |
| 14:35 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: yes, same as the tarball. |
| 14:35 |
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eythian |
(unless you provide the default.sql.gz file) |
| 14:36 |
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mtompset |
but then the script would set up the kohauser and such on the default.sql.gz file |
| 14:37 |
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eythian |
it would create a default user, yeah |
| 14:39 |
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mtompset |
anything to git or tarball installs seem much easier than anything to package installs. In the former, a full dump will work. In the latter, you must trim it to just the koha database. |
| 14:40 |
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* jcamins |
doesn't buy it. Dumping all your databases is just plain a bad idea. |
| 14:41 |
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jcamins |
At least, that's how I see it. |
| 14:41 |
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jcamins |
You're bringing along cruft and baggage from an old system. |
| 14:41 |
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mtompset |
I was already doing that for full backup purposes. |
| 14:42 |
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jcamins |
Sure, it's fine for a backup, but don't use it for anything less than a full restore. |
| 14:42 |
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jcamins |
That's my feeling, anyway. |
| 14:43 |
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mtompset |
I was trying to be lazy and not have to dump just one db for this process... reuse is good sometimes. :) |
| 14:43 |
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jcamins |
Plus, it's not like you can't just set the db/user/password to whatever you want by editing the koha-conf.xml file, same as you do with a tarball install. |
| 14:43 |
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mtompset |
Though, we decided to got with lzma's, not gz's. :) |
| 14:44 |
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mtompset |
actually, the build step in the tarball is what sets it. |
| 14:44 |
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mtompset |
no file editing. |
| 14:44 |
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mtompset |
if you have to edit a file, the install is too complex. :) |
| 14:45 |
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mtompset |
And... if I dump just the one DB... it should be simple enough. |
| 14:45 |
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eythian |
isn't it easier to just dump one? |
| 14:45 |
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mtompset |
-a is shorter than a db name. :P |
| 14:45 |
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jcamins |
And oh-so-much-more dangerous. :) |
| 14:45 |
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eythian |
it's also a billion times easier to restore. |
| 14:46 |
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mtompset |
True... |
| 14:46 |
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eythian |
(especially if you want to be changing db names or something) |
| 14:46 |
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mtompset |
true |
| 14:48 |
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mtompset |
is import the correct SQL command, jcamins? |
| 14:49 |
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eythian |
you want: mysql -u ..... -p < file.sql |
| 14:49 |
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jcamins |
Uhhh... I generally just use mysql < filename.sql |
| 14:49 |
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jcamins |
You could also use SOURCE, of course. |
| 14:50 |
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eythian |
'\.' is probably safter though |
| 14:50 |
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mtompset |
the koha-zebra-daemon was running as the user I couldn't delete. |
| 14:50 |
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jcamins |
'\.' ? |
| 14:53 |
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eythian |
mtompset: yes. 'sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common stop' kills it (though maybe it gets confused if something failed.) |
| 14:53 |
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mtompset |
I'll probably... mysql -u ... -p .... > user koha_...; > source db.sql; |
| 14:53 |
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eythian |
jcamins: shortcut for source |
| 14:53 |
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eythian |
mtompset: I wouldn't, your < is the wrong way around |
| 14:53 |
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eythian |
also your user is in the wrong place |
| 14:53 |
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mtompset |
No those are prompts. |
| 14:53 |
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eythian |
oh duh :) |
| 14:53 |
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mtompset |
Oops... I meant use; |
| 14:53 |
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eythian |
ah |
| 14:54 |
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mtompset |
Yes, it got confused. |
| 14:54 |
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mtompset |
I did a koha-remove... and it failed. |
| 14:54 |
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mtompset |
so I had to kill the daemon manually, and delete the user. |
| 14:54 |
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eythian |
it really needs to be made more robust |
| 14:55 |
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mtompset |
Don't look at me... I'm liking tarballs. ;) |
| 14:57 |
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mtompset |
okay... since the passwd thing failed to work for me... gone.. |
| 14:57 |
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eythian |
you won't when you discover "koha-mysql" |
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| 14:58 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, koha-mysql is pretty awesome. |
| 14:58 |
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mtompset |
eythian++ |
| 14:58 |
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mtompset |
Thanks for the tip. |
| 14:58 |
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mtompset |
But I want to get a package install done first. |
| 14:59 |
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mtompset |
I'm assuming koha-mysql is any time after the koha-create? |
| 14:59 |
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jcamins |
Though, really the way they ensure you don't hoist yourself on your own petard makes packages worthwhile in my eyes. |
| 14:59 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: that is correct. |
| 15:00 |
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mtompset |
interestingly enough only 3 things installed from the debian.koha-community.org when I was doing the apt-get install koha-common. |
| 15:00 |
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eythian |
not surprising if you already had an isntall on that box |
| 15:00 |
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eythian |
normally it's more like 100+ |
| 15:00 |
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mtompset |
Nope... |
| 15:01 |
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mtompset |
No install. |
| 15:01 |
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mtompset |
This is a fresh VM. |
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jcamins |
eythian: from the k-c.org repo, not in general. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: that sounds about right. |
| 15:01 |
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eythian |
oh right |
| 15:01 |
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jcamins |
Are you installing 3.6.x or 3.8.x? |
| 15:01 |
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eythian |
yeah, there's only about 3 or 4 other things in there anyway |
| 15:01 |
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mtompset |
Yes, there were over 200+ things to install. |
| 15:01 |
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mtompset |
I set up squeeze. |
| 15:01 |
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mtompset |
as the repo, so I'm assuming it will be 3.8.x |
| 15:02 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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| 15:02 |
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Woody |
quick question for someone in regards to the Koha logo |
| 15:03 |
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mtompset |
Maybe. :) |
| 15:03 |
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mtompset |
What's the question? |
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wahanui |
the question is, like, "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 15:03 |
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jcamins |
What's the answer? |
| 15:03 |
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wahanui |
i guess the answer is always go back to sleep or 42 |
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* mtompset |
laughs, "Silly bot!" |
| 15:03 |
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jcamins |
Thanks, wahanui. |
| 15:03 |
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wahanui |
my pleasure jcamins |
| 15:03 |
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Woody |
haha I wish. But for serious, I'm using the Koha logo on a public library website, am I allowed to change the colour of the logo to better match our website's theme? |
| 15:04 |
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Woody |
or must it stay black? |
| 15:04 |
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mtompset |
Isn't it all released under GPL? I would think colour changes would be okay. |
| 15:04 |
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mtompset |
I don't know. |
| 15:04 |
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jcamins |
Woody: as far as I know you can change the color to anything you want. |
| 15:05 |
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jcamins |
Whoops. Someone hit refresh. |
| 15:05 |
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* mtompset |
grins. |
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Woody |
awesome. Firefox just quit on me. Anyone post an answer in the 30 seconds I was gone? |
| 15:05 |
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mtompset |
jcamins commented further. |
| 15:06 |
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eythian |
<jcamins> Woody: as far as I know you can change the color to anything you want. |
| 15:06 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. I thought it was a refresh when trying to get to a different page. |
| 15:06 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 15:06 |
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Woody |
the GPL is a bit vague on modifying trademarked logos. |
| 15:06 |
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jcamins |
I think you just can't use the logo for something other than Koha. |
| 15:06 |
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Woody |
Makes sense. |
| 15:06 |
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mtompset |
Not to mention... it is green in other places. |
| 15:07 |
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jcamins |
Also purple in some places. |
| 15:07 |
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Woody |
Whelp, I'll try it out, and if I hear of any complaints I'll just switch it back. |
| 15:07 |
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jcamins |
Makes sense. |
| 15:07 |
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mtompset |
Thanks for using Koha. :) |
| 15:07 |
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Woody |
No problem. Thanks for all your help :-) |
| 15:07 |
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jcamins |
Oh, one thing you shouldn't do with the logo: choose ugly colors! ;) |
| 15:07 |
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Woody |
haha deal |
| 15:08 |
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jcamins |
I'd be interested to see your OPAC design once you've finished it. |
| 15:08 |
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Woody |
Once it's complete perhaps I'll stop by again to drop off the link |
| 15:08 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 15:09 |
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Woody |
Anyways time to load up GIMP and get to work. Have a great weekend everyone |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins |
You too. |
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| 15:15 |
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rambutan |
daem, I'm dealing with the logo issue right now myself. I could have had some input |
| 15:15 |
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rambutan |
The community really really needs to fix this problem. |
| 15:15 |
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jcamins |
What problem? |
| 15:15 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that problem is its human beings doing it |
| 15:19 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, it's not up to the community to fix the problem. |
| 15:19 |
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wizzyrea |
the problem could have been fixed many times over. |
| 15:20 |
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rambutan |
OK, I've got vinegar in my system so.... |
| 15:20 |
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rambutan |
the problem is that PTFS owns the Koha logo trademark/copyright in the US |
| 15:21 |
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rambutan |
I had wanted to paint the logo on our upcoming bookmobile, but we can't because of the trademark |
| 15:21 |
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rambutan |
this is a community problem. |
| 15:22 |
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mtompset |
Yes, but your bookmobile isn't an installation of Koha, so why would you want to paint the logo on it? |
| 15:22 |
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rambutan |
I don't know the solution for sure, but if we have to rename "Koha" to "Tinkerbell" and start all over with a clear statement of licensing, |
| 15:22 |
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rambutan |
well, sometime the problem is going to have to be resolved |
| 15:23 |
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rambutan |
mtompset: to promote Koha. Evangelism. |
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| 15:25 |
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mtompset |
drive your bookmobile outside of the US? I really don't know a solution. |
| 15:25 |
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rambutan |
yea, maybe we could service Canada? |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 15:25 |
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jcamins |
A bit of a schlep. |
| 15:25 |
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rambutan |
I'm sure they would need tech support for those trips |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
You know, the cataloguing module is still painful to use. |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
I keep on hoping it'll be less unpleasant one day, but I don't see it. |
| 15:27 |
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mtompset |
But, jcamins, you are the hemi-semi-demi cataloguing deity. ;) |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I'm not saying I can't use it, I'm saying it's awful. |
| 15:28 |
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mtompset |
jcamins? |
| 15:28 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
| 15:29 |
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* mtompset |
grins, "Another sub-project." |
| 15:29 |
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* jcamins |
won't be rewriting the cataloguing module just now. |
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eythian |
leave it for tomorrow, eh? |
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* mtompset |
high fives eythian. |
| 15:40 |
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mtompset |
okay... running the SQL script now. :) |
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kf |
bye all, have a nice weekend ! :) |
| 15:45 |
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* mtompset |
waits for the tables to all get imported. |
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wizzyrea |
koha on ubuntu? |
| 15:53 |
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wahanui |
well, koha on ubuntu is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
| 15:53 |
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wizzyrea |
thx wahanui |
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jcamins |
thx wahanui is <reply> yw |
| 15:53 |
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jcamins |
thx wahanui? |
| 15:53 |
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wahanui |
yw |
| 15:53 |
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jcamins |
:) |
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oleonard |
So wait, who says PTFS has a trademark on the Koha logo? |
| 15:54 |
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oleonard |
The name, yes, but the logo too? |
| 15:56 |
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mtompset |
wizzyrea: why were you looking for koha on ubuntu? |
| 15:56 |
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wizzyrea |
the logo is included in the tm I believe |
| 15:56 |
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wizzyrea |
sekkrits ;) |
| 15:56 |
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wizzyrea |
no, because I was updating my dev install on my laptop and |
| 15:56 |
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wizzyrea |
wanted to know if there were any things I should be aware of |
| 15:57 |
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wizzyrea |
it's 12.04 |
| 15:57 |
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wizzyrea |
looks happy though |
| 15:57 |
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mtompset |
you probably want to make sure you have the k-c.org repo added. |
| 15:57 |
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mtompset |
Which hasn't made it into the wiki yet. |
| 15:57 |
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mtompset |
Which reminds me... |
| 15:57 |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure they do, actually. |
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wizzyrea |
naw it's a dev install |
| 15:58 |
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wizzyrea |
not packagess |
| 15:58 |
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wizzyrea |
I was looking at dependencies and stuffs |
| 15:58 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: you'll still need debian.k-c.org for dependencies. |
| 15:58 |
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mtompset |
template::plugin::htmltotext |
| 15:58 |
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mtompset |
doesn't exist in Ubuntu. |
| 15:58 |
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jcamins |
^^ that one |
| 15:58 |
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wizzyrea |
ah so |
| 15:58 |
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mtompset |
packages? |
| 15:58 |
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wahanui |
packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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| 15:59 |
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mtompset |
go there... add the squeeze-dev. |
| 15:59 |
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mtompset |
do the wget for the key. |
| 15:59 |
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mtompset |
blah blah blah... you know the drill. :) |
| 16:00 |
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mtompset |
(apt-get update;apt-get upgrade...) |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
| 16:00 |
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mtompset |
And the capitalization on that name is wrong, but you get the idea. |
| 16:01 |
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mtompset |
Template::Plugin::HtmlToText... I think. |
| 16:01 |
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mtompset |
and that reminds me... |
| 16:01 |
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mtompset |
are the two datapaginator ones in k-c.org yet? |
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mtompset |
Yes, I know they are optional. |
| 16:01 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: nope. |
| 16:01 |
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jcamins |
They don't build. |
| 16:02 |
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mtompset |
Oh. :( |
| 16:02 |
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mtompset |
Sweet! Bug 8485 is signed off. |
| 16:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8485 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha_perl_deps.pl batch friendly |
| 16:03 |
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mtompset |
khall++ |
| 16:03 |
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mtompset |
Thanks. :) |
| 16:03 |
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khall |
glad to assist! |
| 16:03 |
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mtompset |
It's a necessary change for a yum install script I was working on. :) |
| 16:04 |
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mtompset |
Yes, I said 'yum' in the midst of an 'apt-get' crowd. :P |
| 16:04 |
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oleonard |
We say yum all the time. Usually in reference to jcamins' lunch. |
| 16:05 |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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mtompset |
I was refering to .... (in a hushed voice) RPM-base distributions. |
| 16:05 |
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mtompset |
Bye, gaetan_B |
| 16:06 |
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mtompset |
There are like 18 missing libraries under CentOS 6.3 |
| 16:06 |
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mtompset |
and that's with EPEL enabled. |
| 16:07 |
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mtompset |
18 including the optional ones. |
| 16:07 |
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mtompset |
that's a lot of CPAN'ing. |
| 16:07 |
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mtompset |
*cringes* |
| 16:09 |
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mtompset |
wow... that's a small apache site configuration file. |
| 16:09 |
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mtompset |
The includes must really shrink it. |
| 16:16 |
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mtompset |
Okay... something went wrong... |
| 16:16 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: why? |
| 16:16 |
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mtompset |
I didn't try to set any funky password or anything. |
| 16:16 |
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jcamins |
Did you change the password? |
| 16:16 |
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mtompset |
No, I didn't. |
| 16:17 |
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mtompset |
Whatever it generated. |
| 16:17 |
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jcamins |
And you're using the correct password according to koha-conf.xml? |
| 16:17 |
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mtompset |
Let me check... because I didn't edit the xml file at all. |
| 16:18 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: it's easy to get confused and try to log in using the Zebra credentials. |
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| 16:18 |
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jcamins |
Which won't work no matter how many times you try. |
| 16:18 |
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mtompset |
I didn't even get a login prompt. |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
Ah. Hm. |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
Wait. |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
Are you on 12.04? |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
(Ubuntu) |
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mtompset |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
You need to do an extra CREATE USER thanks to the stupid anonymous login feature. |
| 16:20 |
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jcamins |
That was patched for the next version. |
| 16:20 |
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mtompset |
AH! |
| 16:20 |
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mtompset |
Right. |
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jcamins |
CREATE USER 'koha_teamwork'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'samepass'; |
| 16:24 |
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mtompset |
do I need a grant all too? |
| 16:26 |
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paul_p |
http://koha-community.org/koha[…]letter-9-2012-07/ => RM newsletter published. |
| 16:26 |
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paul_p |
and leaving for vacation ! |
| 16:27 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I'm not sure. But it's worth trying again. |
| 16:27 |
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mtompset |
Ah... THERE'S the password. |
| 16:28 |
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mtompset |
I see what you mean about the zebra password and the koha password. |
| 16:29 |
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mtompset |
YAY! Web installer page. |
| 16:30 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 16:30 |
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mtompset |
That was a journey and a half. |
| 16:31 |
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mtompset |
I hope my web page doesn't time out on the upgrade. |
| 16:31 |
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jcamins |
It will, but it doesn't matter. |
| 16:31 |
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mtompset |
I have had that happen... just had to wait for the process to finish running. |
| 16:31 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
| 16:32 |
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jcamins |
Happens to me every time I use a dev or tarball install. |
| 16:32 |
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jcamins |
After the initial inconvenience of importing a package install, you'll never have to worry about it again. |
| 16:32 |
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mtompset |
update errors. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5600: very tiny follow-up to pass perlcritic <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f48345b3cdec058ce> / Bug 5600 follow-up: Fix commandline check in order to work under Plack <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0d2cf9bde60fcc25> / Bug 5600: Command line interface for tools/export.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
| 16:32 |
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mtompset |
[Sat Aug 4 00:28:28 2012] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate column name 'patronreason' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4586. |
| 16:32 |
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mtompset |
[Sat Aug 4 00:28:29 2012] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry '545' for key 'PRIMARY' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4618. |
| 16:33 |
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jcamins |
You can ignore all those duplicate messages. |
| 16:33 |
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jcamins |
That means something was backported to 3.6.x. |
| 16:33 |
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mtompset |
Yes, but that would freak someone out. |
| 16:33 |
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jcamins |
They'll survive. |
| 16:33 |
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jcamins |
And if they're concerned enough to ask, we'll tell them not to worry about it. |
| 16:35 |
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wizzyrea |
there, that's a much prettier dependencies page. |
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mtompset |
where is gradient CSS'd? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: probably opac.css? |
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mtompset |
under staff-client |
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oleonard |
mtompset: got Firebug? |
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mtompset |
Yes. |
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mtompset |
Hence the question. |
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oleonard |
Firebug gives you the answer :) |
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oleonard |
Right-click, inspect in Firebug |
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mtompset |
It doesn't say which CSS it is in. |
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oleonard |
staff-global.css (line 195) |
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oleonard |
It does say. Not sure if yours is configured differently? |
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mtompset |
Ah... okay... let me turn off that syspref. |
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oleonard |
http://screencast.com/t/o9aXHtwNsRT |
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mtompset |
I have my staff-global pointed to a tweaked version via a syspref. |
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mtompset |
That's why it is weird. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: Firebug will tell you where the setting comes from. |
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mtompset |
No, I didn't overwrite... I used the syspref. :) |
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mtompset |
Yes, but my tweaked staff-global is from 3.6.3 |
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mtompset |
That's why it is screwy. |
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jcamins |
Alt-shift-refresh? |
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mtompset |
No... just clear the syspref, and all should be good. |
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mtompset |
Yep... All is good. |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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mtompset |
Just have to tweak the right version of staff-global for the job. :) |
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mtompset |
But, that's a job for TOMORROW (or next week) |
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mtompset |
I suppose I should attempt a search |
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jcamins |
mtompset: you will, of course, need to reindex if you didn't yet. |
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mtompset |
Yes. And the best way to reindex is? |
| 16:49 |
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mtompset |
Seeing as there is no 'koha' user. |
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jcamins |
koha-rebuild-zebra --full cooperation |
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mtompset |
you mean teamwork. |
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jcamins |
teamwork, yes. |
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jcamins |
But there's an 'i' in "cooperation"! |
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mtompset |
sudo or no sudo? |
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jcamins |
sudo |
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mtompset |
well, one advantage of the package install is access to all those debianist scripts. :) |
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mtompset |
because we all know the koha-rebuild-zebra really is a wrapper. |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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jcamins |
But a convenient one. |
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mtompset |
When will the next 3.8.x be out? |
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jcamins |
Dashboard? |
| 16:57 |
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jcamins |
dashboard is at http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
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jcamins |
August 22, I imagine. |
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mtompset |
I'm wondering if instead of upgrading to 3.6.7we should jump to 3.8.x just after the 22nd. |
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jcamins |
You could do that. |
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* jcamins |
is sticking with 3.6.x for another few releases. |
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mtompset |
because gradient makes my styling life a lot easier! |
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mtompset |
Think you could get gradient in 3.6.8? |
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jcamins |
You could just steal the staff-global.css file from 3.8.x. |
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oleonard |
It requires some markup changes |
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jcamins |
I won't be backporting it to 3.6.x because it offers very little benefit. |
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jcamins |
Oh, I didn't realize there were markup changes. |
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jcamins |
In that case, no, it won't be going into 3.6.x. |
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mtompset |
Yes. there are markup changes. |
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mtompset |
that single div is a lifesaver! |
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mtompset |
The problem is I head back early november... just before 3.10 is released. |
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mtompset |
I don't want to have to upgrade again, because I didn't just to 3.8.x |
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mtompset |
^just^jump^ |
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* jcamins |
won't be upgrading to 3.10 any time soon. |
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jcamins |
Since you don't do fines, you should be fine with 3.8, I think. |
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mtompset |
--yet. |
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mtompset |
Wow! khall has the last 5 signoffs. Way to go for productivity. :) |
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jcamins |
And two of them are on my patches. :) |
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mtompset |
and one was mine... hence the +'s before. :) |
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mtompset |
Hmmm.... well, paul_p is on vacation... (or will be shortly, and I am too tired to think about bug 8329 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8329 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , GetLostItems in C4::Items.pm has a SELECT * |
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mtompset |
If anyone wants to comment on it, feel free. |
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* mtompset |
is waiting for zebra to reindex, "What a pain!" |
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jcamins |
mtompset: yeah, I had to reindex a 200k record database three times yesterday. It was very frustrating. |
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mtompset |
Oh, and the two perl dependencies that would be really nice on debian.koha-community.org are Data::Paginator and Data::Pagination |
| 17:22 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: agreed. |
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jcamins |
However, since they don't compile, don't hold your breath. |
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mtompset |
Why don't the compile? |
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* jcamins |
shrugs |
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jcamins |
No idea. |
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mtompset |
Should I try doing a CPAN on a VM, just to find out? |
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jcamins |
That's why I asked on bug 8233 for an explanation. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 major, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else |
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jcamins |
It's worth a try, I suppose. |
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rambutan |
jcamins: email to you |
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jcamins |
rambutan: thanks. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #801: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/801/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 8544 - make the RSS icon CSS-changeable |
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jenkins_koha |
* m.de.rooy: 8263 Make OPAC stylesheet preferences more consistent (dbrev) |
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jenkins_koha |
* m.de.rooy: 8263 Consistent stylesheet prefs |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 8263 follow-up DBRev number |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Make RSS icon styleable |
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jenkins_koha |
* veron: Bug 7628 - Required format is not enforced for Patron Categories |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 7628: Escape '+' characters for categorycode |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 3383 - Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 3383 - Followup - Switch from GetMemberDetails to GetMember |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Make OPAC stylesheet preferences more consistent |
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jenkins_koha |
* julian.maurice: Bug 5600: Command line interface for tools/export.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* julian.maurice: Bug 5600 follow-up: Fix commandline check in order to work under Plack |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7628 normal, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Required format is not enforced for Patron Categories |
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jenkins_koha |
* julian.maurice: Bug 5600: very tiny follow-up to pass perlcritic |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3383 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information |
| 17:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Bulk MARC biblio export script |
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melia |
hi #koha |
| 17:46 |
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melia |
I have a bugzilla question. I want to remove an attachment that I added to a bug, but I can't seem to make it go away. I marked it obsolete, but you can still see it... |
| 17:47 |
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jcamins |
melia: you can't delete an attachment, just mark it obsolete. |
| 17:47 |
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melia |
darn it. ok. I guess obsolete is better than nothing. |
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* mtompset |
figures out why it is taking so long to reindex... LOW MEMORY! |
| 17:48 |
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jcamins |
Since it won't show up in git-bz, no one will try to apply it. |
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melia |
it's just a scanned reserve slip, but I realized after I put it on there that I should have blacked out the patron name or something. I don't want to show his private info to the whole world, but now I can't get rid of it. |
| 17:49 |
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jcamins |
Ah. Yeah. You could ask rangi. He might be able to delete it. |
| 17:50 |
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mtompset |
What's the bug number? |
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melia |
bug 8542 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8542 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , <<today>> token produces a funny looking time on Reserves Slip |
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oleonard |
Why do you ask mtompset? You can't administer Bugzilla. |
| 17:50 |
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mtompset |
No, but someone who can may read IRC logs, before actually coming here. |
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melia |
I'll ask rangi for help. thanks everyone! |
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gmcharlt |
melia: I've deleted that attachment |
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melia |
oh good. thanks very much! I hate when I do something dumb and then can't fix it :) |
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mtompset |
I'm sure we've all been there and done that too. :) |
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gmcharlt |
melia: you're welcome |
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mtompset |
give my system's low memory... I think sleep is in order. |
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mtompset |
Maybe the reindex will be done (or have noticeably failed) later. |
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mtompset |
Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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* jcamins |
was on the server with almost no one attached. It was very dull. |
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* oleonard |
hands jcamins a plate of hors d'oeuvres and a drink with an umbrella in it |
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oleonard |
khall around? |
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khall |
indeed |
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oleonard |
Were you testing the patch on Bug 4048 or the gitorious branch? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths |
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khall |
just the attached patch |
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jcamins |
Ooh, how nice. Apparently there was a party on the other server during the netsplit. Fortunate oleonard saved some hors d'oeuvres and a drink. |
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oleonard |
khall: the patch is a follow-up of the work in the gitorious branch. |
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* oleonard |
suspects the attached patch is obsolete,but doesn't block testing of the bug |
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khall |
gotcha, thanks for the info! |
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* cait |
waves |
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oleonard |
Thanks for testing khall |
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cait |
party? |
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khall |
hey cait, hope everything is well over in your neck of the woods |
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khall |
no prob |
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cait |
khall: mostly - as always not getting all done I would like to do :) |
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khall |
thus is life :P |
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oleonard |
anyone else having trouble fetching from git.koha-community.org? |
| 18:49 |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: not me |
| 18:49 |
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* oleonard |
always seems to have this problem when others don't |
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oleonard |
Southeast Ohio git vortex |
| 19:05 |
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oleonard |
Uh... jcamins_away, Bug 8571? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8571 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Add search suggestions on the OPAC ("Did you mean?" feature) |
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wizzyrea |
hrm |
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cait |
hrm |
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cait |
indeed |
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maximep |
damn. |
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maximep |
yet another feature we did more than a year ago |
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oleonard |
?? |
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maximep |
and couldn't share |
| 19:18 |
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jwagner |
It's also a duplicate of code we made available in Bug 4240, which is of course long out of date now |
| 19:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4240 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jwagner, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Add a "did you mean" spell checker to the OPAC |
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cait |
maximep: I tested jared's feature yesterday - ireally like the way you can extend it |
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cait |
bug 8209 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
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* oleonard |
wonders how many hours the Koha project has lost to duplicated efforts |
| 19:28 |
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maximep |
yeah that sucks :/ |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
i guess a lot of them. |
| 19:29 |
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cait |
release early release often |
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maximep |
but it's not a waste of time to have different ways to do the code and have the best win |
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maximep |
that's prety much the perl way to do it |
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cait |
:) |
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oleonard |
It's a waste of time if you code each version to completion and then have to throw one away |
| 19:30 |
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maximep |
not really |
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maximep |
there's always a way to reuse some of the code |
| 19:32 |
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maximep |
I guess you should try jcamins_away's patch fcapovilla |
| 19:34 |
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fcapovilla |
Looking at the diff, his patch seems a lot more complete than mine. Mine is just a simple authority search. |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
if it works very different my |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
maybe you could create your own plugin |
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maximep |
you think this will be in 3.10 ? |
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maximep |
*do you |
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cait |
it will go through qa |
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cait |
next |
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cait |
but I think it#s not likely to break something, so I think it should be |
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cait |
hopefully :) |
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maximep |
=) |
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jcamins_away |
Bug 4240 and bug 8209 aren't similar at all. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4240 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jwagner, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Add a "did you mean" spell checker to the OPAC |
| 20:01 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
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jcamins |
Clearly bug 8571 isn't a duplicate of both of them. |
| 20:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8571 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Add search suggestions on the OPAC ("Did you mean?" feature) |
| 20:02 |
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* jcamins |
consults the patch on bug 8571. |
| 20:02 |
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oleonard |
Not least because Bug 4240 was never properly submitted to Koha |
| 20:02 |
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jcamins |
Actually, that's a duplicate of bug 7417. |
| 20:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches |
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jcamins |
:D |
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jcamins |
I mean, different implementation, but same function. |
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* jcamins |
thinks he prefers his patches for bug 7417 and bug 8209. Offer far more options. |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
But then, I'm biased. |
| 20:05 |
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cait |
I like your implementation too |
| 20:06 |
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* jcamins |
had to comment. |
| 20:06 |
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jcamins |
fcapovilla: ah, I see you're online. |
| 20:07 |
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jcamins |
fcapovilla: you should take a look at bug 7417. I think that will do what you want. |
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rangi |
4240 otoh will do nothing |
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rangi |
:_ |
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rangi |
:) too |
| 20:08 |
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cait |
bug 4240 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4240 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jwagner, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Add a "did you mean" spell checker to the OPAC |
| 20:08 |
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cait |
ah |
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fcapovilla |
Honestly, all my patch does is show search suggestions based on the search terms the user entered. It search into the "see from" of authorities to find its suggestions. |
| 20:09 |
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fcapovilla |
It's closer to bug 8209 |
| 20:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
| 20:10 |
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jcamins |
fcapovilla: the display is closer. However, in terms of what you were trying to get at, I think it's closer to 7417. |
| 20:11 |
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fcapovilla |
The feature is already working on our client's instances, but in a future update we will have to use jcamins's patch. We might create a plugin for it if our client doesn't exactly like the way it works :P |
| 20:11 |
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jcamins |
fcapovilla: that's the idea. With the architecture in bug 8209 it's eeeeeasssssyyyyyyyy. :) |
| 20:12 |
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jcamins |
In fact, you could (no joke) copy and paste the code you added to the .pl into a copy of Koha/Filter/Null.pm, and have it working in ten minutes. |
| 20:13 |
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fcapovilla |
We'll see when we get there. Maybe our client will prefer your method :P |
| 20:14 |
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jcamins |
Add an extra ten minutes to write^H^Hborrow^H^Hsteal a unit test, and you're done. :) |
| 20:15 |
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cait |
lol |
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oleonard |
have a good weekend #koha |
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maximep |
koha' community is the best =) |
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maximep |
have a good weekend everyone |
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cait |
maximep++ |
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jcamins |
mtj: around? |
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rangi |
its 8.30am saturday, unlikely :) |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
Well, he thinks I'm around at midnight on Fridays, so who could say? :P |
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rangi |
:) |
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* rangi |
is watching the 10,000m live |
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rangi |
i like the middle/long races |
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rangi |
hmm japan 1 and 2 |
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rangi |
this is unexpected |
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rangi |
to me anyway |
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rambutan |
I like the minor sports (which never get shown) |
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rangi |
like? |
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wahanui |
like is probably done all the time in the Lua community |
| 20:42 |
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rangi |
we have 8 channels of live coverage, probably on one of those |
| 20:42 |
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rangi |
i was watching handball |
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rambutan |
1 ex: shooting sports (US shooter (skeet I think) won her 5th gold this time--in 5 different olympics) |
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rangi |
oh, yeah i saw that |
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rangi |
the winner of the mens skeet hit some ridiculous thing |
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cait |
me too :) |
| 20:43 |
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rangi |
316 out of 320 or something insane |
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rangi |
i saw the air pistol and small bore rifle too |
| 20:44 |
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rangi |
and i watched all the archery |
| 20:44 |
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rangi |
i flick between channels lots :) |
| 20:45 |
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rangi |
didnt watch any of the swimming this year, oh look its the same race again and again and again and agian |
| 20:46 |
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rambutan |
Yea, I like watching tennis too, but all the TV coverage invariably is of angles and zoom levels that annoy the h* out of me. |
| 20:46 |
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rangi |
now its kenya kenya ethiopia kenya |
| 20:46 |
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rangi |
thats more like it |
| 20:46 |
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rangi |
rambutan: yeah just cos you can doesnt mean you should, directors need to learn that |
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rangi |
i did watch synchronised diving |
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rangi |
thats insane |
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rambutan |
hey rangi, what does the "Te" mean in Te Horowhenua Trust? |
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rangi |
the |
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rambutan |
ah, well, I was reading it like that, but didn't think it would be so obvious |
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rangi |
want a job there? |
| 20:53 |
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rangi |
http://www.horowhenua.govt.nz/[…]rs/Job-Vacancies/ |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
http://tetakere.org.nz/index.php |
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rambutan |
hummm. I'm thinking when I leave here I really need to do something challenging. I'd like to work on space systems or something |
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rambutan |
and space is winding down here in the US, of course |
| 20:55 |
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rambutan |
GIS maybe. Space imagery maybe. |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
ok time to go find something to do with the kids |
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jcamins |
rangi: I suggest finding haka classes. :) |
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* cait |
agrees on haka |
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jcamins |
Or performances, but if your sons are going to join in anyway, might as well go to classes, right? |
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jcamins |
Less likely to confuse people. :) |
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jcamins |
'"Vibrant" did you mean' features. Heh. |
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* jcamins |
likes that requirement. |
