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* chris_n |
looks in |
| 00:34 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: I had a question for you. |
| 00:35 |
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jcamins |
C4::Barcodes. |
| 00:35 |
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jcamins |
What is it for? |
| 00:35 |
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* chris_n |
has no idea |
| 00:35 |
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chris_n |
never used it that I recall |
| 00:35 |
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jcamins |
Really? It's copyright FBC. |
| 00:35 |
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chris_n |
ich! |
| 00:35 |
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* chris_n |
goes off to look |
| 00:35 |
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jcamins |
I think... |
| 00:36 |
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jcamins |
Ah, no, maybe not. |
| 00:36 |
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jcamins |
Maybe it's barcode.pl that was copyright FBC. |
| 00:36 |
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chris_n |
hmm |
| 00:36 |
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chris_n |
try the infamous LibLime |
| 00:37 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 00:37 |
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chris_n |
lemme look some more though |
| 00:37 |
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jcamins |
I came across *something* relating to barcodes that was copyright FBC, and I couldn't figure out what it was for. |
| 00:37 |
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jcamins |
Clearly I need to keep notes, though. |
| 00:37 |
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chris_n |
ahh |
| 00:37 |
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chris_n |
this generates barcode numbers for the barcode plugin |
| 00:38 |
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chris_n |
and I have touched it.... a very long time ago, and in galaxy far, far away |
| 00:38 |
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chris_n |
;-) |
| 00:39 |
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chris_n |
what you see there at present is a total rewrite of the old code by atz (joe atzberger) moving it to more OO style |
| 00:40 |
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* chris_n |
wonders what the code base would say if it could talk |
| 00:40 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 00:40 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: most of the labels/pcard stuff is copyrighted by FBC and it does have some barcode foo in it |
| 00:40 |
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jcamins |
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ? |
| 00:40 |
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* chris_n |
holds on |
| 00:41 |
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chris_n |
oh |
| 00:41 |
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chris_n |
that's what the code would say? |
| 00:41 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 00:41 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 00:41 |
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chris_n |
hehe |
| 00:42 |
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* chris_n |
will now right 100x's on the chalkboard: I will add my AAA server configuration to my nightly backup job. |
| 00:42 |
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* chris_n |
hates getting spanked by hdd failures |
| 00:43 |
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jcamins |
Long night ahead of you? |
| 00:44 |
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chris_n |
no, but its been a long last week |
| 00:44 |
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chris_n |
I took advantage of the disaster to get rid of the last w2k server on site |
| 00:44 |
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jcamins |
\o/ |
| 00:45 |
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chris_n |
I replaced it with ubuntu quantal + samba 3.6.6 |
| 00:45 |
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chris_n |
the samba build on precision is buggy |
| 00:46 |
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jcamins |
Quantal? |
| 00:46 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 00:46 |
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chris_n |
but rebuilding user accounts, groups, etc from scratch is for the birds |
| 00:47 |
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chris_n |
the crash left the file server directory structure orphaned from a perms standpoint |
| 00:47 |
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jcamins |
Ouch. |
| 00:47 |
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chris_n |
fixing the standard *nix perms was not bad with 'find' |
| 00:47 |
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chris_n |
but the *nix acls were another story altogether :-P |
| 00:49 |
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* chris_n |
wanders off to re-join xp clients to the new domain.... |
| 00:49 |
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rangi |
back |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #115 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #115: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/115/ |
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jenkins_koha |
m.de.rooy: 7368 Adjustments for Perl dependencies |
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Judit |
hi |
| 03:13 |
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Judit |
http://koha-community.org/ is down? |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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| 03:15 |
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dcook |
Looks like, Judit |
| 03:15 |
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dcook |
I was just about to ask the same thing ;) |
| 03:18 |
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mtompset |
I hate arriving in the middle of a conversation. |
| 03:18 |
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mtompset |
:) |
| 03:19 |
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rangi |
probably amazon again |
| 03:20 |
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dcook |
Amazon? |
| 03:20 |
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rangi |
its hosted in aws |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
NEKLS look after it, but its in the cloud |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
NEKLS? |
| 03:21 |
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wahanui |
NEKLS is using those |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
wahanui: forget NEKLS |
| 03:21 |
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wahanui |
rangi: I forgot nekls |
| 03:21 |
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dcook |
Ahh |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
NEKLS is North East Kansas Library Service |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
(i cant ping it) |
| 03:21 |
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mtompset |
mailing lists? |
| 03:21 |
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wahanui |
mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 03:21 |
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dcook |
Google search brings it all up pretty quickly |
| 03:21 |
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dcook |
Interesting |
| 03:22 |
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wahanui |
Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 03:22 |
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dcook |
True |
| 03:22 |
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dcook |
Darn, I was half hoping to get it going.. |
| 03:22 |
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rangi |
they arent hosted in the same place |
| 03:22 |
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dcook |
By chance, does anyone know if the marc subfield structure data is cached in older versions of Koha such as 3.2? |
| 03:23 |
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dcook |
Mmm, sorry, I meant the info about it. Rather than the site |
| 03:23 |
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rangi |
we have done a pretty good job of spreading stuff around |
| 03:23 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]te_Administration |
| 03:25 |
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rangi |
so we occassionally lose bits but never all of it, the koha.org debacle showed how important spreading things around are, and the dns is controlled by a charitable trust ... we learn from our history :) |
| 03:26 |
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rangi |
its 10.30pm in kansas, so probably will be out for a few hours if it does need hands on stuff |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
:) |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
Mmm, makes sense |
| 03:26 |
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* dcook |
is a fan of decentralization |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
Hmm, maybe I shouldn't have written that... |
| 03:26 |
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mtompset |
We are borg, you will be assimilated. :) |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
So long as I can vote and have health care, I'm pretty happy |
| 03:27 |
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dcook |
But back to my question...there really shouldn't be any reason why that data is being cached, right? |
| 03:28 |
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rangi |
nope dcook |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
Hmm, that's what I thought. Thanks, rangi |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
In retrospect, one of my test cases already proved that, lol |
| 03:28 |
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rangi |
but for giggles, just make sure you dont have memcached running |
| 03:29 |
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dcook |
Well, we have memcached running for our 3.8 installs |
| 03:30 |
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rangi |
right, it might be that it is being cached but not cleared in 3.2 .. easy way to tell |
| 03:30 |
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dcook |
How might that be? I'd love to check |
| 03:30 |
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rangi |
look at C4/Biblio.pm |
| 03:31 |
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rangi |
does it have |
| 03:31 |
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rangi |
memoize_memcached( 'GetMarcStructure' |
| 03:31 |
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rangi |
round line 107 |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
line 138, it seems |
| 03:32 |
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rangi |
right, so yep it is being cached |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
Hmm |
| 03:33 |
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dcook |
But when I look at my test case, it has the same code, but it doesn't seem to be cached |
| 03:33 |
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rangi |
if memcached is switched on in the conf file that is |
| 03:33 |
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mtompset |
Is there any documentation on the wiki that explains how to set up a memcache server? |
| 03:33 |
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rangi |
its pretty much outside the scope of Koha |
| 03:34 |
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rangi |
theres nothing special to do with koha in setting it up |
| 03:34 |
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rangi |
so linking to a page about memcached would be better imho |
| 03:34 |
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dcook |
Make sense |
| 03:34 |
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rangi |
else its something else we have to maintain |
| 03:34 |
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dcook |
In terms of the conf file, which one might that be? |
| 03:34 |
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rangi |
im just checking out a 3.2.x |
| 03:34 |
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rangi |
what version is it dcook ? |
| 03:35 |
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dcook |
3.02.02.000 |
| 03:35 |
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dcook |
I'm running two different ones, and they have different results, but I'm quite sure they have the same code... |
| 03:35 |
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dcook |
The conf files would be different though, so I'm thinking that might be where it is |
| 03:36 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 03:36 |
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rangi |
should be near the bottom in a <memcached> bit |
| 03:36 |
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rangi |
<memcached_servers>__MEMCACHED_SERVERS__</memcached_servers> <memcached_namespace>__MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE__</memcached_namespace> |
| 03:37 |
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dcook |
Yep, and there it is |
| 03:37 |
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dcook |
Perfect. Thank you once again, Chris |
| 03:37 |
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dcook |
When I do finally get over to Wellington, I believe that I owe you quite a few drinks ;) |
| 03:38 |
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dcook |
I figured that it had to be caching in the memcached servers... |
| 03:38 |
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dcook |
But when we did a lookup, there wasn't anything about the 3.2 installs. I wonder if we were looking at a different namespace. |
| 03:38 |
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* dcook |
trots off to investigate |
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| 03:52 |
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dcook |
rangi++ |
| 03:55 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 03:56 |
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mtompset |
@karma rangi |
| 03:56 |
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huginn |
mtompset: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 626 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 621. |
| 03:56 |
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mtompset |
What did you do wrong, rangi? ;) |
| 03:56 |
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mtompset |
@karma mtompset |
| 03:56 |
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huginn |
mtompset: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 17 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 16. |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
Relatively speaking, I think rangi's ratio is rather unparallele |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
d |
| 03:57 |
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* mtompset |
blames drojf for the -1. :P |
| 03:57 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
@karma dcook |
| 03:57 |
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huginn |
dcook: Karma for "dcook" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
Slowly but surely ;) |
| 03:57 |
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rangi |
probably making bad jokes |
| 03:57 |
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mtompset |
dcook++ |
| 03:58 |
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mtompset |
For being an active contributor. :) |
| 03:58 |
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dcook |
Thanks, mtompset |
| 03:58 |
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mtompset |
Oh, dcook ... you're running on RPM-based machines, right? |
| 03:58 |
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rangi |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]no-not-like-that/ |
| 03:59 |
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dcook |
To the best of my knowledge, mtompset |
| 03:59 |
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rangi |
any typoes id be happy to hear about |
| 03:59 |
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mtompset |
I'll critique it later, rangi. :) |
| 04:00 |
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mtompset |
Do I have a script for you! |
| 04:00 |
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mtompset |
Let me see if I can find it. :) |
| 04:00 |
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dcook |
Intriguing |
| 04:01 |
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dcook |
I have noticed your love of unit testing, but I admit that I don't know anything about it |
| 04:01 |
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mtompset |
As you may be aware I was working on check_deps.sh |
| 04:01 |
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dcook |
I could help with those typos though |
| 04:01 |
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mtompset |
Well, I have a baby version for yum. :) |
| 04:01 |
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dcook |
I vaguely remember this, yes :P |
| 04:02 |
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mtompset |
how would you like to get it? |
| 04:02 |
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mtompset |
This really isn't bugzilla worthy. |
| 04:03 |
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dcook |
Hmm, it's probably something that I'd rather look at a bit later |
| 04:03 |
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dcook |
At the moment, I'm just about to pop off for lunch |
| 04:03 |
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mtompset |
Ooo... lunch. good idea. |
| 04:03 |
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mtompset |
After lunch then. |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
Sure. |
| 04:05 |
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dcook |
Thanks again for your help before, rangi :) |
| 04:09 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
| 04:09 |
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cait |
hi mtompset |
| 04:11 |
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rangi |
hi cait |
| 04:12 |
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cait |
hi rangi |
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rangi |
sites back |
| 04:19 |
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mtompset |
YAY! There's the mailing list page. |
| 04:23 |
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mtompset |
rangi: The only things I was wondering about were some commas like "Yes, you should rewrite it, NO! Not like that!" -- should that be a comma before the 'NO!'? |
| 04:23 |
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mtompset |
Oh, and "Have you run the xt/tt_valid.t on that?" -- is that supposed to be xt? |
| 04:24 |
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mtompset |
and “Oh I wrote a unit test for that†is missing a period. |
| 04:24 |
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ibeardsl1e |
and probably a "," after the "Oh" ? |
| 04:25 |
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mtompset |
Or an exclamation point. |
| 04:25 |
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rangi |
yep that should be xt |
| 04:26 |
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rangi |
changing the others now |
| 04:26 |
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mtompset |
In short, http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]no-not-like-that/ is good. |
| 04:27 |
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mtompset |
And the "But seriously, if we invest time in writing tests, forcing us to learn the behaviour of the current implementation [comma here?] we can then make sure our refactor/rewrite still passes these tests. " |
| 04:27 |
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rangi |
ah yes |
| 04:29 |
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rangi |
changed |
| 04:29 |
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mtompset |
The next sentence needs a bit of clean up too, I think. |
| 04:30 |
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mtompset |
Like the last part becoming its own sentence. |
| 04:31 |
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mtompset |
I always take like a whole day to write documentation, because I keep running over mine to see if I made tiny mistakes. |
| 04:31 |
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mtompset |
It becomes so tedious. |
| 04:31 |
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mtompset |
What does korerorero mean? |
| 04:32 |
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rangi |
discussion |
| 04:32 |
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wahanui |
discussion is always constructive :) |
| 04:32 |
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* mtompset |
nods. |
| 04:33 |
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cait |
wahanui: optimistic :) |
| 04:33 |
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wahanui |
cait: sorry... |
| 04:34 |
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cait |
poor bot |
| 04:38 |
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* mtompset |
smirks, "Yes, poor bot." |
| 04:39 |
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mtompset |
git |
| 04:39 |
|
mtompset |
packages |
| 04:39 |
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wahanui |
packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 04:39 |
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mtompset |
tarball |
| 04:52 |
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| 05:00 |
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mtompset |
git? |
| 05:00 |
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wahanui |
git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 05:01 |
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mtompset |
tarball? |
| 05:01 |
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wahanui |
i heard tarball was uploaded just will do announce this evening, you just reminded me :-) |
| 05:02 |
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mtompset |
forget tarball |
| 05:02 |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot tarball |
| 05:03 |
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mtompset |
tarball is available at http://download.koha-community.org/ -- though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
| 05:03 |
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mtompset |
tarball? |
| 05:03 |
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mtompset |
wahanui: tarball is available at http://download.koha-community.org/ -- though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
| 05:03 |
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mtompset |
tarball? |
| 05:04 |
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mtompset |
wahanui the tarball is available at http://download.koha-community.org/ -- though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
| 05:04 |
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mtompset |
tarball? |
| 05:04 |
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mtompset |
the tarball? |
| 05:04 |
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cait |
the tarball? |
| 05:04 |
|
cait |
tarball? |
| 05:04 |
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cait |
tarball is available at http://download.koha-community.org/ -- though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
| 05:04 |
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cait |
wahanui: tarball |
| 05:04 |
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wahanui |
cait: sorry... |
| 05:04 |
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cait |
? |
| 05:04 |
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cait |
mtompset: sorry, not sure what's with him |
| 05:05 |
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rangi |
tarball? |
| 05:05 |
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mtompset |
i |
| 05:05 |
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mtompset |
Oops.. |
| 05:05 |
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rangi |
yeah, not wanting to learn at the moment |
| 05:06 |
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mtompset |
dcook_away: tell me when you are back. I'm working in another screen. :) |
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| 05:18 |
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Guest1334 |
hi there,I wanted to create .db for my koha offline module, how can i go about it? |
| 05:18 |
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cait |
are you using the firefox plugin or the separate software? |
| 05:19 |
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Guest1334 |
am using the separate software. |
| 05:19 |
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Guest1334 |
are they different in requirements? |
| 05:20 |
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cait |
the firefox plugin just works, you don't need a db, but it can't do as much |
| 05:20 |
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cait |
http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]line-circulation/ |
| 05:20 |
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cait |
sorry, I am not sure how to create a db for this |
| 05:20 |
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Guest1334 |
so how do you handle it yourself? |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
our libraries are not using offline circ atm |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/offlinecirc.html |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
but I think I woudl tend to use the firefox plugin for when the network goes down |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
it doesn't need any preparation |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/offlinecirc.html |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
the second has more information |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
which version of koha are you using? |
| 05:23 |
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Guest1334 |
am using 3.4 currently |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
ah :( the firefox plugin will not work with that |
| 05:24 |
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cait |
maybe try mailing the mailing list with your question |
| 05:24 |
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cait |
not a lot of people are here this time of the day |
| 05:24 |
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Guest1334 |
thats a great idea, thanks for your assistance |
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mtt |
hi there, |
| 05:53 |
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mtompset |
cait++ |
| 05:53 |
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mtompset |
kf++ |
| 05:53 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 05:53 |
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mtt |
i was going through the offline module, anyone aware of creating a .db file for the borrowers? |
| 05:54 |
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mtompset |
Good customer support. |
| 05:54 |
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cait |
ah |
| 06:01 |
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cait |
mtt: I would still recommend the mailing list :) |
| 06:02 |
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mtompset |
mailing list? |
| 06:02 |
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wahanui |
mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
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francharb |
hi |
| 06:14 |
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wahanui |
hi, francharb |
| 06:15 |
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mtompset |
I hope the mailing list doesn't get spammed as a result. :) |
| 06:15 |
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cait |
hi francharb |
| 06:15 |
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mtompset |
Bonjour, francharb |
| 06:16 |
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francharb |
Good morninb cait, mtompset ! |
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schnydszch |
what is the optimal requirements for koha? |
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schnydszch |
somebody asked me that question |
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schnydszch |
good afternoon koha users |
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mtj |
optimal? a beowulf cluster |
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mtompset |
http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
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mtompset |
Minimal, I believe. |
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mtompset |
As for hardware requirements... there are none expressly. |
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mtompset |
If it can run a debian-based OS Server Version, that's a good start. |
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julian_m |
hello |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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mtompset |
Greetings, magnuse and julian_m |
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magnuse |
hiya mtompset |
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mtompset |
Memory requirements will vary based on the size of the catalog, circulations, and other factors. |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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gaetan_B |
good morning ! |
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kf |
hi gaetan_B :) |
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kf |
bonjour paul_p |
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kf |
guten morgen asaurat |
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kf |
:) |
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paul_p |
guten morgen kf |
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asaurat |
'morgen!! |
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asaurat |
wie geht es dir, kf? :) |
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kf |
gut, viel zu tun - und dir? |
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asaurat |
gut, und viel zu tun auch :D |
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kf |
:) |
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rangi |
Raus! |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
rangi: sorry, but we are going to stay |
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rangi |
worth a try :) |
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rangi |
my uncle used to yell that out at 5am |
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rangi |
when we were supposed to be doing chores |
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rangi |
(moving sheep and the like) |
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rangi |
worst holiday job ever |
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kf |
heh |
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mtompset |
what a weird disconnect. |
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mtompset |
I'm positive wizzyrea, I, and some others had a discussion about minimum memory requirements. |
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mtompset |
But I can't for the life of me find it in the irc logs. |
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mveron |
Good morning #koha |
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mtompset |
Good afternoon, mveron. :) |
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mveron |
Koha never sleeps :-) |
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kf |
Ilike tweetbot |
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kf |
even if he doesn't eat cookies |
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mtompset |
tarball is available at http://download.koha-community.org/ -- though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
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mtompset |
tarball? |
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mtompset |
bad wahanui. :P |
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drojf |
ha! http://www.blazingmoon.org/new[…]u-810-a-tutorial/ |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
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kf |
tarball is <reply> something |
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kf |
tarball? |
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wahanui |
something |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
there you go |
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kf |
now you can teach him |
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drojf |
the poor bot is probably just tired |
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drojf |
wahanui botsnack beer |
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wahanui |
:) |
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kf |
making him drunk will not help the problem! .) |
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drojf |
i make him happy, as you can see ;) |
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rangi |
drojf++ |
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kf |
rangi will give him irn bru next... I see it coming |
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drojf |
heh |
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mtompset |
tarball is <reply> The tarballs are available at http://download.koha-community.org/ -- though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
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mtompset |
tarball? |
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wahanui |
something |
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drojf |
he likes something more |
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mtompset |
forget tarball |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot tarball |
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drojf |
it's easier to remember too |
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mtompset |
tarball is <reply> The tarballs are available at http://download.koha-community.org/ -- though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
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mtompset |
tarball? |
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mtompset |
tarball |
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mtompset |
I think wahanui doesn't like me. |
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drojf |
tarball is <reply> can i have more beer please? |
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drojf |
tarball? |
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wahanui |
can i have more beer please? |
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drojf |
:) |
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drojf |
good bot |
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drojf |
wahanui botsnack beer |
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wahanui |
:) |
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mtompset |
wahanui forget tarball |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot tarball |
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mtompset |
wahanui tarball is <reply> The tarballs are available at http://download.koha-community.org/ -- though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
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mtompset |
tarball |
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mtompset |
tarball? |
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rangi |
take the -- out |
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rangi |
also no wahanui |
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mtompset |
AH! |
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rangi |
tarball is <reply> The tarballs are available at http://download.koha-community.org/ though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
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rangi |
tarball? |
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wahanui |
The tarballs are available at http://download.koha-community.org/ though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
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mtompset |
packages? |
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wahanui |
somebody said packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 08:33 |
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mtompset |
That's sort of correct. |
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mtompset |
It should be redirecting to wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze ... The cascading redirect doesn't seem to work. |
| 08:36 |
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mtompset |
git? |
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wahanui |
git is, like, http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
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mtompset |
which install to use? |
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wahanui |
If you're developing, you should use git. If you're not developing on a deb-based system, you should use packages. If you're not developing on a different flavour of Linux, you should use the tarball. |
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mtompset |
There, I think we've got that covered well. :) |
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magnuse |
mtompset++ |
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mtompset |
It was a group effort, magnuse, but thank you. :) |
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mtompset |
The 'which install to use' is a quote of jcamins_away. |
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mtompset |
Hmm... I think appendix G in the manuals need updating. :) |
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mtompset |
What's the syntax of @later or is it @tell? |
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rangi |
@help tell |
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huginn |
rangi: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here. |
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rangi |
@help later |
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huginn |
rangi: Error: There is no command "later". |
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rangi |
@help tell later |
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huginn |
rangi: Error: There is no command "tell later". |
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rangi |
it is @tell later |
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mtompset |
Thanks, rangi. |
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drojf |
@later tell drojf blub |
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huginn |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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drojf |
hm |
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drojf |
@tell later drojf bla |
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huginn |
drojf: Error: I haven't seen later, I'll let you do the telling. |
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asaurat |
that's not the other way around ? later tell ? |
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drojf |
@tell drojf hello |
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drojf |
yes it is |
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drojf |
later tell works |
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asaurat |
oh yes you did it earlier, didn't see |
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mtompset |
Oh well... I found nengard's facebook page. |
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drojf |
that sounds… stalky |
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mtompset |
Is it wrong to want appendix G updated? |
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drojf |
i don't even know what that is, but why not just send an email instead of searching her in fb? |
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mtompset |
because I don't have an email. |
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rangi |
theres a koha-docs mailing list |
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mtompset |
DOH! That would have been better. |
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rangi |
and a koha-docs git repository, you can even send a patch |
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drojf |
also there are probably a million emails of her in the main ml |
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mtompset |
hindsight is 20/20. Oh well. |
| 09:34 |
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drojf |
someone got a spare 6v sealed lead acid battery? i think i ordered everything else i need for a self sustaining solar koha in a box |
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kf |
! |
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kf |
no battery but I like the idea :) |
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* dcook_away |
agrees from the land of tax |
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drojf |
well, the battery and maybe sunshine would also be nice :D |
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drojf |
i guess i need a wind- and rain-option to use it in germany soon |
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mtompset |
solar koha box? |
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mtompset |
Who needs library services in the middle of nowhere? |
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drojf |
everybody! |
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wahanui |
it has been said that everybody is so enthusiastic today :) |
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drojf |
see |
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drojf |
:D |
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dcook_away |
Agreed |
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mtompset |
land of tax? |
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dcook_away |
A few months ago, I was going to do a class on international librarianship |
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dcook_away |
It looked at librarianship in war zones, third-world countries, etc. |
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drojf |
cool |
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dcook_away |
Unfortunately, scheduling conflicts didn't allow for me to take it :( |
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dcook_away |
I'll have to pick the brains of my colleagues... |
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dcook_away |
Yep. I have to do my taxes before I leave Australia. |
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mtompset |
bug 8485 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8485 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Make koha_perl_deps.pl batch friendly |
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mtompset |
I'm patching it up to have a -b and -r. :) |
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mtompset |
How would I write tests for koha_perl_deps.pl? Just a shell script? Or is there a .t way? |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian |
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eythian |
hello |
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mtompset |
Greetings, eythian |
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mtompset |
Thanks for the apt-file Contents. |
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mtompset |
the check_deps.sh script works wonderfully as a result. |
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eythian |
øarsome |
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mtompset |
BTW, Datapaginator or whatever those two libraries are... |
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mtompset |
I know they aren't required, but if I wanted to load them... I couldn't. |
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mtompset |
Ubuntu doesn't have them. |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha. |
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Oak |
kf |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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Oak |
hello rangi :) |
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mtompset |
I feel so out of it. I don't feel right saying kia ora. :P |
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mtompset |
Greetings, Oak |
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Oak |
greetings mtompset :) |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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mtompset |
and salutations to you too, Oak |
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drojf |
Bug statuses |
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drojf |
Passed QA - 7 |
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drojf |
Failed QA - 91 |
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drojf |
sounds like we write a lot of bad code :P |
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dcook_away |
What are the date ranges for those :p |
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* dcook_away |
pretends that he didn't say anything and actually goes away this time |
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mtompset |
I think one of those is mine... I haven't gotten back to it yet. |
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mtompset |
It's an enhancement, so it's low priority. |
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* mtompset |
goes back to working on shell script to prove that his koha_perl_deps.pl changes are okay. |
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drojf |
scumbag delivery company. asks to reschedule delivery if i am not at home, does not tell me when the delivery is supposed to be. |
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* mtompset |
tries to calm drojf |
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drojf |
i am calm ;) |
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eythian |
enhance your calm, citizen. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard jwagner jcamins and NateC |
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NateC |
Hi mtompset! |
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jcamins |
Good morning. |
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mtompset |
YES! I have a shell script skeleton which I can modify to prove my koha_perl_deps.pl changes. :) |
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jwagner |
hi mtompset |
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jcamins |
rangi++ # good blog post |
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oleonard |
In Lithuania. Interesting. |
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oleonard |
(a non-sequitur for the log) |
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jcamins |
Huh. |
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mtompset |
I think oleonard was trying to confuse log readers by stating that. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: possibly. However, it *is* interesting. |
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oleonard |
I find it interesting that a Lithuanian library would be comfortable choosing a US-based support company when US-based libraries would probably not be willing to do the reverse |
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tcohen |
hi #koha |
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oleonard |
Unless someone has an example to the contrary? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: CALYX supports two libraries in the US. |
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oleonard |
They don't seem to be in lib-web-cats |
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jcamins |
Don't they? I thought CALYX supported a couple.e |
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jcamins |
s/e$// |
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jcamins |
You're right. Not finding them in lwc. |
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oleonard |
Hmm... we really need a new permission "View borrower information" as one step down from "Add or modify borrowers" |
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kf |
it would be nice |
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kf |
for students working the late night shifts and such |
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oleonard |
And maybe another one just for handling fine payments? |
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kf |
hm |
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jcamins |
+1 |
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kf |
so you can see fines but not pay? |
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kf |
I think maybe having a perm for waiving fines would be nice |
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oleonard |
So you could pay fines but not edit patron records? |
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* oleonard |
doesn't know if that matches anyone's reality |
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kf |
I am not sure |
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jcamins |
Ah, no, we need a permission so you can edit patron records but not handle money. |
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kf |
I think you get a summary on the patron record |
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kf |
so that might be ok if we had a view patrons |
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oleonard |
jcamins: So if we had the separate fines permission you could have it either way |
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jcamins |
oleonard: yup. That's why I agree with you. :) |
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oleonard |
I was just looking at Bug 3886 and noticing how silly it is that some print views have circ permission and some have borrowers permission |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3886 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Can't print receipt w/out allowing "Add or modify borrowers" permission |
| 12:56 |
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oleonard |
On the other hand, I don't know of a way of saying "This page is accessible to people with either X or Y permission" |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
I think you can do an || |
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kf |
I have seen that |
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kf |
in acq somewhere |
| 12:56 |
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kf |
I think... hm. at least we are already doing it somewhere. |
| 12:56 |
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oleonard |
Have you? I tried to figure that out for Bug 8161 and never got it working |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8161 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Cataloging home page should be accessible to users with permission to edit catalog or edit items |
| 12:57 |
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oleonard |
The only reason that bug fix worked is because there are sub-permissions (what do we call those?) |
| 12:57 |
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kf |
subpermissions soudns fine to me |
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kf |
hm give me a few minutes and I can try to find out where I saw it :) |
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mtompset |
You know your testing is crazy thorough when you have to write a script to write the script for testing. :) |
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* jcamins |
wonders who is integrating Spring and Pubmed into Koha, and how. |
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kf |
hm perhaps ebook packages? |
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tcohen |
mtompset, what's the situation of bug 8478? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Update Ubuntu related files |
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drojf |
"connecteurs" klingt für mich mal nicht so richtig nach integration, eher nach link |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
too many languages |
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drojf |
connecteurs sounds more like a link, not "real" integration |
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mtompset |
Just that I noticed you didn't RM ubuntu_maverick.packages in your patch. |
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mtompset |
The modified version of koha_perl_deps.pl -- I'm working on that. |
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mtompset |
bug 8485? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8485 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Make koha_perl_deps.pl batch friendly |
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kf |
drojf: lol - the think is I thought it sounded weird |
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kf |
thing... |
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wahanui |
it has been said that thing is in ephazz's current system, holdings information is held in field 852a - Lcation, 852k - Call number prefix e.g. HF, 852h - Classification part e.g. 5415, 852i - Item part e.g. SMI. Now i want to map do i do these to koha what |
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mtompset |
It took a while to right the script to write the script to do the testing. |
| 13:42 |
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kf |
but didn't get you were writing german |
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drojf |
:D |
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kf |
forget thing... |
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wahanui |
kf: I forgot thing |
| 13:43 |
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mtompset |
Other than that... go ahead with whatever you want for bug 8487. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8487 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, C4::Installer::PerlDependencies needs Test::Strict hash corrected |
| 13:43 |
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drojf |
i was slightly confused. first i thought it was just the wrong window, but my german conversation in the next window is not about koha :D |
| 13:43 |
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mtompset |
Oops... bug 8478 |
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jcamins |
kf: I know what pubmed and springer are, I was just wondering who was doing the work. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: someone called YvesTomic, by the looks of it? |
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* kf |
is confused now |
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jcamins |
magnuse: do you know who that is? I'd be interested in asking the developer to consider releasing their code, since Koha is open source. |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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drojf |
jcamins: http://mydk-tomic.net/ |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Nifty. |
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jeff |
mtompset: if you have to write a script to write the script for testing, does your test-writing script have tests? :-) |
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mtompset |
No, I don't recurse that far back. |
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mtompset |
It's just writing out 512 test cases by hand would be torture. |
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mtompset |
How do you force a line break in the perlpod stuff? |
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* oleonard |
pictures rangi handing out Professor Umbridge-style punishments for not writing tests: "I will write tests, I will write tests..." |
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mtompset |
How do you force a line break in the perlpod? I don't want my example calls to all be blurred into a run on line when the help is displayed. |
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mbalmer |
btw, I found a quite unbiased comparison between mysql and pgsql, in case anyone is interested in it: http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL |
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oleonard |
mbalmer: How is your work on making Koha db-agnostic coming along? |
| 14:03 |
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mtompset |
Found an answer: add a space at the front of the line. |
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mbalmer |
oleanard, still not able to run the installer for real |
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drojf |
jcamins: apparently he uses php to get data from external sources and displays that in koha. does not sound like the best idea to me |
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jcamins |
drojf: no, it sure doesn't. |
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mtompset |
external connectors... *cringes* |
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mtompset |
You know you have done too much bash scripting when your perl scripts mess up because == is numeric in perl, but a string in bash. |
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* kf |
mutters |
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kf |
subject can have 3 differnt meanings in German |
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kf |
but we can only make one translation... |
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* mtompset |
hands kf some cookies. |
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kf |
thx needed |
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mtompset |
Well, I'm sure you could mention this problem to whoever controls the po strings. They could add the other two cases, even if they are the same in other languages, right? |
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kf |
mtompset: the problem is more difficult |
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kf |
the way our po files owrk, you can only do 1 translation for each string |
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kf |
and each string is only translated once |
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kf |
well 2 times max, once for opac and once for staff |
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drojf |
that sounds stupid |
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kf |
and in this case, both are on the same template... *sigh* |
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kf |
drojf: it's subject |
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mtompset |
oh, that's even more frustrating. |
| 14:24 |
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kf |
and you don't want to translate them every time a word occurs |
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kf |
subject = Betreff, Thema, Schlagwort |
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mtompset |
What are the differences in nuance? |
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kf |
subject of a mail, subject in library speak (6xx fields) and a topic |
| 14:26 |
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mtompset |
Perhaps the English can change to accomodate the three nuances? |
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drojf |
kf: then we have to find and use the most differentiated language as the base for all translations |
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kf |
yeah, that's my best hope |
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jcamins |
@marc 520 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Unformatted information that describes the scope and general contents of the materials. This could be a summary, abstract, annotation, review, or only a phrase describing the material. (Repeatable) [a,b,u,3,6,8] |
| 14:26 |
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jcamins |
^^ see, not "subject." |
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kf |
jcamins: will you write a patch? :P |
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kf |
or suggest a term so I can? |
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mtompset |
kf said 6xx fields. |
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mtompset |
@marc 600 |
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huginn |
mtompset: A subject added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,x,y,z,2,3,4,6,8] |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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jcamins |
520 should have the label "Summary" |
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kf |
I am checking matser now |
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Shane-S |
when I click a book in the admin cataloging it takes me to the MARC tab, can I change it to default to normal? |
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kf |
hm yes |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: yes. In the sysprefs there's a "Default[something]View" syspref. |
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Shane-S |
wizzyrea: you were right btw, labeling is working, I needed users :) |
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Shane-S |
jcamins: okay will check thanks! |
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wizzyrea |
YAY!!! |
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* wizzyrea |
highfives Shane-S |
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wizzyrea |
(srsly, that's great. :)) |
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kf |
jcamins: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]68bafe8a6002#l684 |
| 14:30 |
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Shane-S |
now I am fixing barcodes...has I know the padded 00 was missing from one label, I would have removed T00 not just the T.... |
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kf |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd520.html |
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kf |
meh. |
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Shane-S |
I think jcamins said it yesterday.. something like perfect gets in the way of good |
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Shane-S |
little confused its says on cataloging show records on [normal view] in the drop down already, but it opens in MARC |
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kf |
have you checked if there aredifferent prefs for opac and staff? |
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Shane-S |
nope...looking now |
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jcamins |
IntranetBiblioDefaultView |
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jcamins |
Try to set it to something else then set it back. |
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kf |
oh good hint |
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Shane-S |
hmm...think I need to clear my session to see that change? |
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jcamins |
No. |
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jcamins |
You do need to refresh the results page, though. |
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Shane-S |
I edited a barcode, then did a new catalog search, clicked the title, still MARC |
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Shane-S |
I will check the setting saved (though the black confirmation and log notification bar came up it was saved both times) |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: wait, are you having this problem in the staff client or the OPAC? |
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jcamins |
I understood the problem to be with the staff client. |
| 14:42 |
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jcamins |
Also set BiblioDefaultView to "in simple form." |
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Shane-S |
staff client |
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wahanui |
hmmm... staff client is for the staff in the library, OPAC is for patrons |
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Shane-S |
ill move systems soon and screencast it if need be |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: try changing BiblioDefaultView as well. |
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jcamins |
It's on the OPAC tab. |
| 14:45 |
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jcamins |
Could be the two sysprefs are reversed. |
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Shane-S |
changed both, then set both back to simple...I will go to my screen cast system and record it. That will also give me a new session to test too |
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mtompset |
Did I send you the yum version of the check_deps.sh script, jcamins? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: yes, I believe so. |
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mtompset |
I just realized that depends on bug 8485 |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: are you running memcached? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8485 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Make koha_perl_deps.pl batch friendly |
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jcamins |
If so, restart it. |
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Shane-S2 |
jcamins: http://screencast.com/t/nwLswuFyrk I am pretty sure I did it right |
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Shane-S |
jcamins: where can I check on memcached? I don't remember checking that during install as it had a not about issues if I recall |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: just run "sudo service memcached restart" from the command line. |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: is there a reason, though, why you are using the cataloging module search? |
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jcamins |
It may be that the Cataloging module always brings you to the MARC view, now that I think about it, because the only reason you would *be* in cataloging module is to work with MARC. |
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jcamins |
I'm checking now. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's why. |
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jcamins |
The Cataloging module search always brings you to the MARC view. |
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Morthland |
I got an email from the cron daemon, sent to root morthland.org. |
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jcamins |
You should just use the regular search. |
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Morthland |
How can I change that to send to librarymorthland.org |
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jcamins |
Morthland: you'll probably need to set up a mail aliases file. |
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Morthland |
In postfix? |
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jcamins |
Morthland: you can probably find instructions for that in the documentation for your MTA of choice. |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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Morthland |
Fantastic. Thank you. |
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jcamins |
Though- you might be able to change which e-mail messages are going to by editing the crontab. |
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jcamins |
You could find about that in the cron documentation. |
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* jcamins |
would go with setting up an alias, though. |
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Morthland |
I will set up the alias. It seems to make the most sense. |
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mtompset |
Shoot! My 512 test cases are still running! |
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mtompset |
I'll submit the patch anyways. :) |
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Shane-S |
jcamins: sorry got pulled away, I am using it to fix barcodes, so I am searching for books by title, clicking the right one, seeing MARC, click normal, find the book with the bad barcode and click the barcode #, then I click Edit Item so I can fix the barcode |
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jcamins |
You should just use the regular search if you don't want to look at the MARC. |
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Shane-S |
the one with checkout/checkin/patron/catalog under it? |
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jcamins |
Yes. "Search in catalog." |
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jcamins |
Click the link "Search" to get to the advanced search screen. |
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Shane-S |
jcamins: okay I see, I thought cataloging make more logical sense, but it does what you say and the barcode testing works as well |
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mtompset |
jcamins, koha_perl_deps.pl patch for bug 8485 has been uploaded. |
| 15:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8485 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make koha_perl_deps.pl batch friendly |
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Shane-S |
Search I didn't like as I have to specify what I am looking for. I need "speed" right now to just verify barcodes |
| 15:28 |
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Shane-S |
making 2 piles...work and don't work, then 2 piles from the "don't work" fix and replace |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: then use the search box that appears on almost every page. |
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Shane-S |
I was just trying to save a click, you have to pick search the catalog or cataloging from more. However, you are right the search from cataloging saves 3 clicks over the cataloging search |
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Shane-S |
jcamins: Thanks for the help, now I can start making my giant piles |
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jcamins |
I'm still not exactly clear on what you're doing, but I'm glad I could help. :) |
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Shane-S |
I personally am just doing a trial, so I can direct the librarian in the quickest manner to correct barcodes in Koha and make barcode labels for the books that need their label replaced |
| 15:34 |
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Shane-S |
It seems all the labels from the Circ/Cat system need to be replaced. |
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Shane-S |
Our label from a vendor, don't have the T00 hidden in the barcode, so we can just make the numbers match exactly. In Koha they have 2 leading zero's the barcode label does not |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: why don't you take out the two leading zeros? |
| 15:36 |
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Shane-S |
hmm...wonder if I should just do an SQL query looking for barcodes starting with 00 and strip them out |
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jcamins |
I would. |
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* Shane-S |
hasn't done a complex query in a while...goes to mysql.com |
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oleonard |
If I create "modify_patrons" and "view_patrons" permissions is someone going to complain that a user with "modify_patrons" permission can do all the same things someone with "view_patrons" can do? |
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oleonard |
"Hey, I said he could only modify patrons, not view them too!" |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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kf |
not me |
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kf |
did you find out about the permissions? |
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kf |
sorry, I got distracted :( |
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oleonard |
At this point I don't need to do "flagsrequired => { A or B }", so I'm not waiting to find out if it can be done |
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mveron |
By #koha |
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* oleonard |
grumbles about FIXMEs which say simply "this script needs to be refactored" |
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kf |
oleonard++ for going there :) |
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kf |
into scripts that need refactoring |
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kf |
and bye all :) |
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mtompset |
Bye, kf. |
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mtompset |
gbsd... sit in a corner and fix all the FIXMEs. |
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mtompset |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
i guess jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
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gmcharlt |
developper? |
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gmcharlt |
I like it -- "developper. noun. One who improves code by removing some." |
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mtompset |
Hey, I didn't type. Someone else did. |
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oleonard |
developper = cross between developer and tree-trimmer? |
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eythian |
"must have negative LOC count" |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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jcamins |
I don't think I do. |
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nengard |
jcamins you're just the person I need :) |
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nengard |
I'm training |
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nengard |
say hi to the catalogers :) |
| 15:58 |
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nengard |
the question is what do i search if i want to find things with the subject of united states and the subject subfield of encyclopedia |
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oleonard |
Hi catalogers! |
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jcamins |
And searching for "united states -- encyclopedia" in subject doesn't work? |
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mgeist |
Hi catalogers. |
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jcamins |
Hi catalogers. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, catalogers. |
| 16:01 |
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oleonard |
jcamins' search will return results for subjects like " Urban folklore -- United States -- Encyclopedias." |
| 16:01 |
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oleonard |
Don't know if that's okay or not? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: yes, but any search we can come up with will do that. |
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jcamins |
(any search we can come up with without using less-than-memorable syntax) |
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oleonard |
I just think it's important to note since the question may be about a more exclusive search |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I know. But I wanted to start with the "things that people will be able to remember" option. |
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jcamins |
nengard: does that simple query meet the needs? |
| 16:04 |
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mtompset |
He didn't want to scare with the PQF. ;) |
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jcamins |
mtompset: actually, we can avoid PQF for this query, provided they're using DOM indexing. |
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mtompset |
PQF? |
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wahanui |
PQF is Prefix Query Format or at http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#PQF |
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mtompset |
I know, but people should know what a knowledgeable expert you are. ;) |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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* mtompset |
waves bye to #koha and the catalogers. :) |
| 16:11 |
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paul_p |
chris_n = bug 7167 updated ! (could not work on it yesterday morning, but we took the whole day on it with joubu !!!) |
| 16:11 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements |
| 16:11 |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: was a patch lost on bug 7818? |
| 16:11 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 16:12 |
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jcamins |
There are no "index_heading" calls. |
| 16:14 |
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paul_p |
nengard = hi from France, catalogers ! |
| 16:14 |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: where, specifically? I'm seeing references in several files in both master and 3.8.x |
| 16:14 |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: in biblio-koha-indexdefs. |
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* oleonard |
finds several staff client scripts with authnotrequired => 1 |
| 16:16 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: that doesn't seem like such a good idea. |
| 16:17 |
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* oleonard |
wonders if there's a better way to handle the error pages (404.pl, etc) than authnotrequired => 1 |
| 16:18 |
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oleonard |
We don't have a generic "can be logged in to the staff client" permission |
| 16:18 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: staffaccess? |
| 16:18 |
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oleonard |
staffaccess = "Modify login / permissions for staff users" |
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chris_n |
paul_p: fantastic |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 16:19 |
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chris_n |
I'll schedule some time tonight or tomorrow for it |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
Uhhh... |
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paul_p |
chris_n++ ! |
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paul_p |
jcamins = you're also welcomed to test bug 7167 ! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements |
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jcamins |
paul_p: yes, I was just thinking I would. |
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jcamins |
Full disclosure: I tend to find things that I want changed. :P |
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paul_p |
jcamins = if that's things we can improve later, I've no problem with it ;-) |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: no missing patch, just something awaiting tuits |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: ah. |
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nengard |
oleonard and jcamins thank you!! |
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nengard |
we moved on to serials but that does help us and that is what we watn |
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nengard |
want |
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jcamins |
There is a cat sitting on my keyboard. It makes work very difficult. |
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Shane-S |
jcamins: I think I am missing something, I did a test query to remove leading zero's and the item shows the barcode change, but I have to search with the leading zeros. I went to lunch for 20 minutes to give time for a zebra index |
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Shane-S |
do I need to run the query on more then the "items" table? |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: you have to reindex everything if you change things in MySQL. |
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jcamins |
Zebra doesn't know you've changed it. |
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Shane-S |
is there a way to do it via Koha so I can avoid that step? |
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Shane-S |
batch edit perhaps? |
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jcamins |
No. |
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rambutan |
Interesting behavior: http://opac.rhcl.org <- search "I am number 4" results in DVD only... |
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jcamins |
The batch edit functionality won't allow you to edit the barcode in that way. |
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rambutan |
search "I am number four" results in both DVD and book |
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Shane-S |
okay, I will search the wiki for re-indexing I remember doing that in the past with my 3.6 test system |
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rambutan |
Correct title for both is "I am number four". |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: koha-rebuild-zebra --full instancename |
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oleonard |
rambutan: The DVD has "I am number 4" as "other title" |
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rambutan |
harumpfff |
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jcamins |
rambutan: B&T's record is... somewhat less complete. |
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jcamins |
Based on a DLC record. |
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jcamins |
And of course AACR2 says you don't list numerals in 246, just spelled-out numbers. |
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jcamins |
(silly? Why yes!) |
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oleonard |
How does AACR2 suggest you handle such cases? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: AACR2 says that the book record is correct, and "I am number 4" should not appear anywhere in the record. |
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oleonard |
Ha |
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* oleonard |
gives AACR2 the finger |
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rambutan |
I have so informed the reference librarian in question and cc'd: the cataloger of this MLS-level information. They will possibly think I'I'll wait 24 hours before giving the proper citation. |
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rambutan |
canx above |
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rambutan |
I have so informed the reference librarian in question and cc'd: the cataloger of this MLS-level information. They will possibly think I'm very smart. I'll wait 24 hours before giving the proper citation. |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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* chris_n |
dutifully notes that his "round 'tuit" is carefully hidden away in a little used drawer at home |
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oleonard |
I wonder if there is a situation where you would give someone circ permission but not want to grant them view_patrons permission? |
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cait |
hm |
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* oleonard |
has learned never to trust his common sense in these situations |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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cait |
if you can circ, you will have to check the name, not sure if it makes sense to not see the rest? |
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cait |
I think unless someone asks for it... I would not take it into account |
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Morthland |
is upgrading as simple as sudo make upgrade? |
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Morthland |
from 3.8.1 to 3.8.3 |
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Morthland |
? |
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jcamins |
Morthland: and running the webinstaller. |
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Morthland |
Will the webinstaller run if I have a database already? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
It runs automatically when you try to log in the first time. |
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Morthland |
Fantastic. Thanks! |
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jcamins |
It's even easier when you use packages. |
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Morthland |
packages? |
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wahanui |
well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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Morthland |
Well. That's pretty nifty. |
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oleonard |
Bug 7955 says "signed off" but a statistics tab is already on patron records? I'm confused. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7955 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Statistics tab in patron module |
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oleonard |
Is it a follow-up which makes it signed-off? |
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oleonard |
Oh, I guess so: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ivity.cgi?id=7955 |
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oleonard |
Will the follow-up make it work correctly? :| |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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oleonard |
Hi Brooke, what brings you 'round? |
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Brooke |
felt like logging on :) |
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Brooke |
how's it going, Owen? |
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oleonard |
Fine. |
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oleonard |
Working on Bug 8535 and discovering all kinds of messes |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8535 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Granular permission for viewing patron information |
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Brooke |
icky |
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JesseM |
Has anyone come across an issue viewing purchase suggestions in Suggestions Management after an upgrade to 3.8.3? |
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oleonard |
What's the issue JesseM ? |
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JesseM |
Old suggestions not showing at all |
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oleonard |
I certainly don't have that problem in master JesseM |
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oleonard |
We don't do suggestions in our production system so I can't help by checking there |
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cait |
JesseM: try refreshing the page |
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JesseM |
ok thanks oleonard |
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cait |
also only the current library will show now I think |
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cait |
so if you have old ones... could be related to the branchcode maybe |
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JesseM |
Thx cait |
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cait |
only guessing mostly, but maybe |
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Morthland2 |
I'm getting this error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 31. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 31. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intran |
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jcamins |
Sounds like a branchcode issue. |
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jcamins |
Morthland2: sounds like your MySQL server isn't running. |
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cait |
Morthland: did you just reimport the database? |
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oleonard |
See ya later #koha |
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jcamins |
nengard is telling people to use 001 for OCLC number, isn't she? |
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* jcamins |
sighs |
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cait |
she is |
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cait |
I wonder why not downloding directly? |
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cait |
creating the order from external source? |
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rangi |
Morning |
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trea |
morning rangi |
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jcamins |
Because most libraries don't pay the exhorbitant rates for Z39.50 access to OCLC, I think. |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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jcamins |
The problem is, if you get vendorload records prior to your OCLC overlay, the 001 could have god-knows-what. |
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jcamins |
Which would be exactly why I say to use 035. |
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rangi |
Yea |
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rangi |
Makes sense |
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jcamins |
Of course, I've been saying that for a year with no effect. |
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cait |
where do you put the source with 035 again? |
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jcamins |
(OCoLC)ocm123456789 |
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jcamins |
:) |
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cait |
ew |
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cait |
but ok |
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jcamins |
Add "(OCoLC)" as a default value to the 035$a. |
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cait |
hm? |
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jcamins |
To save typing. |
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jcamins |
If that's what you were objecting to. |
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cait |
ah, only not a fan of the () syntax |
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jcamins |
Nor am I, but that's the way it is. |
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cait |
agreed |
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jcamins |
cait: can't you use the ACQ framework to add additional fields to the acquisitions module? |
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cait |
not to the new order form |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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cait |
only the items 952 is used |
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jcamins |
Got it. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
it would be nice tho :) |
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jcamins |
Well, I tried. |
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rangi |
sekjal: yep I do :) |
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cait |
hm? |
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rangi |
was answering a later |
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rangi |
hmm thats the first lithuanian library i know of using koha |
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cait |
cool :) |
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jcamins |
But they've been using Koha for a while. |
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jcamins |
Didn't it say they went live in 2008? |
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rangi |
ah yeah, its an upgrade |
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sekjal |
rangi: figured Wellington was a small enough open source IT community that you may have had some overlap |
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rangi |
sekjal: i used to run into them a lot more when i went to curry thursday |
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rangi |
http://wellington.thursdaynightcurry.com/ |
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rangi |
right, new month, new scoreboard |
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rangi |
can anyone beat jonathan this month |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
are you going to reset totally? |
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rangi |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]cs-for-july-2012/ |
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rangi |
just the signoff stats |
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rangi |
its now showing signoffs for august |
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cait |
we can try to |
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cait |
but I guess it's from qaing? |
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rangi |
nope, its from marking signed off |
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cait |
ah ok :) cool :) |
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libsysguy |
does anybody else find the template toolkit loop variables name strange |
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libsysguy |
foreach *_LOO in *_LOOP |
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jcamins |
Very strange. |
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eythian |
libsysguy: it's a legacy of template conversion |
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jcamins |
It's because it was automatically converted. |
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jcamins |
I've decided it's endearing. :) |
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eythian |
me too :) |
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libsysguy |
I've decided to hate it |
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libsysguy |
i keep wanting to do mine as holiday in holidays etc |
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jcamins |
You don't have to do that in new code. |
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libsysguy |
0_0 |
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jcamins |
But, I think it's probably good to do all caps. |
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* libsysguy |
goes back to delete all the bad loo vars |
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rangi |
and dont do $template->param either |
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libsysguy |
i can do that |
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rangi |
thats an html::template thing |
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jcamins |
(and all caps only when your code could easily get missed) |
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rangi |
that we have a shim for, but it should go away |
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jcamins |
Shims_going_away++ |
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jcamins |
You know what we should do in 3.12? |
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jcamins |
Put in a warning. |
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rangi |
good idea |
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jcamins |
"You have set a parameter incorrectly." |
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jcamins |
Or move it into C4::Template::Shims, and only include that in legacy code. |
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libsysguy |
then an ascii hand to come smack you down |
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jcamins |
Or something. |
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rangi |
that'd work |
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mgeist |
Time to go. Have a good evening! |
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libsysguy |
rangi or jcamins do we typically put TT vars in arrays or hashes |
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libsysguy |
I can't for the life of me figure out how to loop through a hash in TT |
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rangi |
its up to you |
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jcamins |
Hashes. |
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jcamins |
Well... |
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jcamins |
No, I guess we usually do arrays of hashes. |
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jcamins |
What are you trying? |
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rangi |
$template->{VARS}->{fishface} = whatever the hell you want :) |
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libsysguy |
it was arras of hashes before |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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rangi |
it could be a scalar, a hashref or an an arrayref |
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libsysguy |
oh i bet the calendar code was using template param |
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* libsysguy |
goes to look |
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libsysguy |
and it would be using template->param |
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rangi |
yeah |
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eythian |
rangi: $template->{VARS}{fishface} = ... ;) |
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rangi |
:) |
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* wizzyrea |
imagines the ascii spanking libsysguy would apply, laughs |
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libsysguy |
Anna is the only one allowed to do any spanking around here :p |
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wizzyrea |
O RLY |
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jcamins |
Oooh... I know... we always use $template for the template, don't we? |
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libsysguy |
YRS RLY! |
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jcamins |
YRS? |
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wizzyrea |
I think you mean YA RLY |
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libsysguy |
bad caps grammer |
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jcamins |
We can add a check for "$template->param" to the git hook. |
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rangi |
jcamins: we dont have to, we just do |
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jcamins |
rangi: this is good. It makes automating the QA failing easier. :) |
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* wizzyrea |
refrains from critiquing your spelling as well. |
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libsysguy |
ug |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
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wizzyrea |
libsysguy? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer |
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libsysguy |
I can't find the site I was looking for |
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libsysguy |
wizzyrea have you seem the goosberms meme |
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wizzyrea |
regrettably, no |
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wizzyrea |
oh wait |
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wizzyrea |
yes |
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wizzyrea |
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596527051.do |
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wizzyrea |
er no |
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wizzyrea |
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/[…]7cb73_3456208.jpg |
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wizzyrea |
yes that |
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libsysguy |
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ermahgerd |
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jcamins |
I do believe... yes, the cat stole my socks. |
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* jcamins |
goes to pick up some herbs, flour, and dried grains from the CSA, after reclaiming his socks from the cat. |
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libsysguy |
http://ermahgerd.jmillerdesign.com/#!/translate |
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wizzyrea |
my favorite was the one with Councilor Troi from star trek |
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rangi |
coffee time brb |
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wizzyrea |
later peps |
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* wizzyrea |
is off to fetch the kiddo |
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wizzyrea |
(yes, you can imagine that as it comes from the wizard of oz. I am a kansan after all) |
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eythian |
I don't think the wizard of oz is set in kansas, toto. |
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* magnuse |
wonders why there is no mention of koha-create in "man koha-common" |
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rangi |
mistake ? |
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magnuse |
most likely |
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eythian |
also koha-remove |
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magnuse |
and "man koha-foreach" has koha-list in the synopsis... gah! |
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magnuse |
koha-remove seems to actually be in the docbook in master |
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magnuse |
but not in the man page i'm looking at |
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magnuse |
man, someone messed up - i wonder who... ;-) |
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eythian |
no idea :) |
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magnuse |
good :-) |
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* magnuse |
wishes everyone a good night or other time of the day |
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rangi |
cya magnuse |
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magnuse |
have fun rangi |
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My OPAC seems to be denying non-local IP addresses |
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