IRC log for #koha, 2012-07-07

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00:43 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
00:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #84: FIXED in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/84/
00:43 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Follow up for TTParser test
00:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, sam-sanders, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules
00:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #85 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED)
00:56 wajasu rangi: ok. i  signed off bug 7143
00:56 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
00:56 rangi Yay!
00:57 * wajasu a patch and a signoff in two days. what a roll!
00:57 * wajasu i love git!
00:58 rangi Yeah git is awesome
01:02 wajasu i can devel on my archlinux, with my VM sshfs on top of the kohaclone! So i get to reuse by local koha repo and switch branches!
01:05 wajasu i  did:  git am <patch>  ;  git dff --stat master bug7143 ;  git difftool master bug7143;  verified fix ; git format-patch origin
01:07 rangi Sweet
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01:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #85: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/85/
01:34 jenkins_koha dcook: Bug 8314 Add MARCISBNs parameter to to show multiple isbns in OPAC
01:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8314 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Missing MARCISBNS param in
03:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #86 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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03:22 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
03:22 mtompset Greetings, cail.
04:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #86: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/86/
04:11 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7286: rebuild_zebra_sliced for biblios and authorities
04:11 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 8323 fixing year sorting of a list
04:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7286 enhancement, P2, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , Introduce rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh to recursively rebuild zebra & be error proof
04:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8323 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Stable , User created lists not sorting properly
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05:19 mtompset Interesting enhancement bug 7286.
05:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7286 enhancement, P2, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , Introduce rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh to recursively rebuild zebra & be error proof
05:56 ropuch Good morning
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06:29 mtompset Greetings, ropuch.
06:29 mtompset Its afternoon here.
06:30 mtompset It's also the weekend. :)
06:30 * cait waves
06:30 cait weekend!
06:30 wahanui weekend is near!
06:30 * mtompset starts trying to forget Rebbeca Black's Friday.
06:30 mtompset Hi, cait.
06:31 cait hi mtompset :)
06:31 mtompset Maybe you have some thoughts on this.
06:31 mtompset Our library imported their data from MARC21 format records.
06:31 mtompset We had the price in 852$9
06:32 mtompset It wasn't transferred to the appropriate field.
06:32 cait how was your price formatted?
06:32 ropuch mtompset: it's 8:30 am, saturday here
06:32 cait and good morning ropuch :)
06:32 ropuch ;>
06:32 mtompset However, the items.marcxml actually has the data in it.
06:32 mtompset That's another problem.
06:32 cait can you give me an example?
06:32 ropuch Guten Tag, cait [;
06:33 cait the price will only work when you format it like 5.00
06:33 mtompset The prices were not consistently formatted.
06:33 cait decimal point
06:33 cait no currency symbol
06:33 mtompset 365.00usd
06:34 cait there you go
06:34 * mtompset is looking for others.
06:34 cait there is  a bug about that
06:34 mtompset Gift
06:34 cait that the price fields don't like non numeric things
06:34 mtompset Yes, that was the price field.
06:34 mtompset 5.25gbp
06:34 mtompset 50.70php
06:35 mtompset 2.50
06:35 cait ah
06:35 cait 2.50 - did that not work too?
06:35 mtompset I didn't check.
06:35 mtompset I know some did work.
06:36 cait hm you said 852?
06:36 ropuch It should be easy to fix though
06:36 cait not 952?
06:36 mtompset Yes. 852.
06:37 cait where did you expect it to go?
06:37 mtompset Look, we were importing data from multiple horrific sources.
06:37 cait I was thinking about the price fields in items
06:37 mtompset Yes.
06:37 cait you wanted it to go in items?
06:37 mtompset The problem is there a currency field too?
06:38 cait hm not in items
06:38 cait but you confused me a bit :)
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06:38 cait perhaps we should start over before I tell you something wrong
06:38 cait I am still a bit sleepy
06:38 cait just got up
06:39 mtompset Not a problem... I'm half-awake, and it's the middle of the day. :)
06:39 cait so the data is in the marcxml
06:39 mtompset yes.
06:39 cait what did you expect to happen?
06:39 cait where is it missing?
06:40 mtompset items.price
06:40 cait ok
06:40 cait that will never work
06:40 mtompset I was hoping that when we did the import that 852$9 would have gone into items.price
06:41 cait you have to put the information in the 952$g, or v
06:41 cait fields
06:41 cait sorry for bad grammar
06:42 mtompset don't worry. My grammar has been deteriorating as I deal with non-Canadian English sources.
06:42 mtompset I think it is adapting.
06:42 mtompset Okay... next question...
06:43 mtompset Let's say we generate a MARC file with duplicate data with the fix.
06:43 mtompset what would happen if we imported the fixed version?
06:43 cait you can't overlay items
06:43 cait so if the items with the barcodes are already there
06:44 cait they will not be updated
06:44 cait I think I would try sql
06:44 cait the problem is, that you want to bring it all to one currency
06:44 mtompset Okay, a backend fix it is.
06:44 cait because the item data should all be your active currency
06:44 mtompset I was telling my colleague this about the single currency.
06:44 cait so the replacement prices and things are correct
06:45 cait when you charge a patron in circ
06:46 mtompset Can different branches have different currencies?
06:46 cait not at the moment :(
06:46 cait the active currency setting is global for all
06:46 cait it's mostly used by acquisitions
06:47 cait if you don't use acquisitions... I think it doesn't matter so much in other places
06:47 mtompset My colleague was asking for a price list, so he could generate a spreadsheet for insurance purposes.
06:47 cait I mean you could probably have different currencies in items for different branches... but because there are no currency symbols it could get a bit messy
06:48 cait and confusing
06:48 * mtompset nods.
06:48 cait and some of the preferences are global
06:48 cait like the maxfine
06:48 cait or other fine related preferences
06:49 mtompset I suppose the multi-currency is probably only a problem for international libraries.
06:49 mtompset How many of those are using Koha?
06:50 cait hm
06:50 cait there was opus presenting at kohacon - I thought they were...
06:50 cait but I am not sure how they deal with currencies
06:50 cait it's an interesting problems
06:50 cait problem
06:51 mtompset I wonder if they agree on a base currency and enter it as such.
06:51 mbalmer hook up a real point of sale system to Koha and you are done.
06:51 mbalmer (using SIP, that is)
06:51 mbalmer then in Koha, you use only local currency
06:51 mtompset Doesn't quite work for our situation, though.
06:52 mtompset We have colleagues coming from abroad internationally.
06:52 mtompset They donate books, or buy books and bring them.
06:52 cait mtompset: you have libraries in different countries, right?
06:52 mtompset Yes.
06:52 cait or is it only dealing with the gifts and books (acq)
06:52 cait ok
06:52 cait hm.
06:52 mtompset it's a combination.
06:53 cait I tihnk easiest would be an installation for each library
06:53 cait instead of a system with branches
06:53 mtompset But then how would the folks in country X know about the books in country Y?
06:53 cait yeah exactly
06:54 cait I think some people have figured out how to build a union catalog from separate koha installations
06:54 cait but I am not sure what the best way to do it would be
06:54 mtompset An installation for each country only solves half the problem of currency.
06:54 cait do you want them to be able to order books?
06:54 cait from branch to branch?
06:54 mtompset Yes.
06:54 cait ah ok
06:54 cait hm
06:55 cait maybe ask on the list how others do it?
06:55 cait there might be someone with ideas/best practices
06:55 mtompset For example, some Filipino language may have a close similarity to a Malaysian one, and some person in Malaysia may want to check out a book from the Philippines.
06:56 cait it's  a cool service :)
06:58 mtompset We're not to that stage yet, but I am sure we will head there.
07:00 mtompset Just trying to help make the world a better place. Considering that language development activities overlap quite a bit with UN Millenium Development goals.
07:00 mtompset
07:02 mtompset How do you check your active currency?
07:03 cait administration > currencies
07:04 cait it should be "checked" and also be 1.0000
07:04 mtompset That must be newer than 3.6.3
07:04 cait hm no
07:04 cait we are using 3.6.3 and it's there :)
07:05 cait it's one of the last points on the administration page
07:05 cait in the acq area
07:05 cait perhaps you should file an enh request for multiple currencies
07:06 mtompset CurrencyFormat is the only syspref I see.
07:06 cait not talking about prefs :)
07:06 cait administration module home page - at the bottom
07:07 mtompset ah... currencies and exchange rates.
07:08 cait mostly used for acq - I don't think it's used in circ, but might be wrong
07:13 mtompset Interesting... we even have a FRF figure in there
07:15 mtompset Yes, we have some OOOOLD data. ;)
07:15 cait I don't know what frf is :)
07:15 mtompset French Franc.
07:15 cait oh :)
07:15 cait do you have DM too?
07:16 mtompset Hmm.m.... no, but that reminds me ... I should figure out that other bizarre one.
07:16 mtompset MPX
07:17 mtompset Hmmm... doesn't match anything.
07:19 mtompset Maybe it was supposed to be mexican peso.
07:19 cait and x as a placeholder
07:19 cait ?
07:19 mtompset 65.00mpx
07:22 mtompset Shoot... both items entered as mpx.
07:22 mtompset ISBN: 1556190298
07:24 mtompset Cool. We have something that is out of print. :)
07:30 mtompset I think the price has gone to 0, because you can't get it. :)
07:45 mtompset Enjoy the weekend, #koha.
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08:08 drojf good day #koha
08:11 cait hi drojf :)
08:11 drojf hi cait :)
08:11 cait what are you doing here on a weekend? ;)
08:11 drojf enjoying the quiet channel ;)
08:11 cait oh right
08:12 cait very zen...
08:12 drojf :D
08:13 cait the right atmosphere to get started on my it law reading for today
08:14 drojf yeah, it law :)
08:15 drojf if you find a law that forbids my internet connection to be instable, slow and sucky please tell me
08:17 cait ok
09:09 drojf will my patch fail QA if i flip a coin to make a decision at some point?
09:10 cait lol
09:10 cait depends on the patch maybe?
09:12 drojf 856 h and l are the same thing. if i have both and they are not the same, i have to do something. i guess it's more acceptable for the user to just choose one so the result can be reproduced
09:16 cait ?
09:25 drojf nevermind, i changed it to no coin and just use one of the fields. its a lot less code like this
09:44 mbalmer mveron?
09:44 wahanui rumour has it mveron is amazed as well. You did some more Koha installations in Gemrany since then. Would like to spread Koha a little bit more in Switzerland as well
09:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #87 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:52 cait forget mveron
09:52 wahanui cait: I forgot mveron
09:52 cait mveron is from switzerland, a koha developer and creating some nice new features!
09:52 cait mveron?
09:52 wahanui mveron is from switzerland, a koha developer and creating some nice new features!
09:54 drojf drojf?
09:54 wahanui well, drojf is ill and bored now! ;)
09:54 drojf lol
09:56 cait hm
09:56 cait hope you are no longer ill :)
09:56 cait forget drojf
09:56 wahanui cait: I forgot drojf
09:56 drojf forunately that illness is very long ago
09:56 drojf fortunately
09:56 cait drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
09:56 drojf was
09:56 drojf heh
09:57 cait did I spell that right
09:57 cait ?
09:57 drojf yes
09:59 drojf grml. error in my test data
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10:34 drojf weeeeeee thunderstorm again
10:35 cait ooh
10:35 cait i want one too!
10:36 drojf i don't really see anything, i just hear thunder
10:36 drojf it's not even really dark yet. weird
10:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #87: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/87/
10:43 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8335 - Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl
10:43 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: Bug 7299 pass itemnumber in ILSDI holditem service
10:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8335 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl
10:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7299 normal, P3, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Stable , ILSDI HoldItem service does't set the itemnumber in reserves table
11:26 rangi hmm
11:27 cait hm?
11:27 drojf mh!
11:28 * cait gets nervous
11:30 rangi
11:30 rangi updates in real time
11:30 cait updates of bug work?
11:31 rangi yep
11:31 rangi well sign offs
11:32 rangi it shows the last 5 sign offs
11:32 cait oh nice
11:32 cait hm
11:32 cait where could we put that?
11:36 drojf it should do something if all 5 are done by the same person. like, shoot rainbows
11:37 cait hm
11:37 cait make it 3
11:37 cait at the same time
11:37 cait and ... rainbows :)
11:37 cait or... kittens :)
11:37 drojf yeah, shoot kittens :D
11:38 cait I didn't say that!! hehe
11:38 cait ok, ... was thinking it
11:39 drojf i bet we could do something crazy with ad placement and that thing. sponsor a signoffer and see your ad displayed on it's just that i hate ads
11:40 rangi
11:40 cait :)
11:45 cait we could combine with a monthly scoreboard
11:46 rangi yep
11:52 cait and fudge sponsoring ;)
11:54 rangi refresh now
11:54 cait :)
11:54 cait perhaps make the script of the live update a bit bigger?
11:55 cait I will have to make my name show up there :)
11:55 cait but first I have to buy some food
11:55 rangi k
11:56 rangi well the scoreboard part isnt automatic yet
11:56 cait ah ok
11:56 rangi but if people like it, i can make it update real time too
11:56 rangi but the live bit i can make bigger
11:56 rangi hows that?
11:57 rangi ill see if can get the bug name in too
11:57 cait better :)
11:57 cait rangi++
11:58 cait you made it smaller again :)
11:58 cait still experimenting?
11:59 rangi nope didnt make it smaller
11:59 cait hm weird
11:59 cait ah caching maybe
12:04 rangi right
12:05 rangi refresh again :)
12:05 rangi now i just need css help
12:05 cait :)
12:05 cait I didn't dare to ask you for the bug description :)
12:05 cait perhaps another brak after tne name
12:05 cait to give more room for the description
12:06 cait name break bug number description break time
12:06 cait I would do
12:06 rangi maybe tomorrow, time for sleep now
12:06 rangi :)
12:06 cait ok
12:06 cait sleep well :)
12:07 ropuch Huh, I'm considering a quick nap, too
12:07 ropuch I feel less prductive than i should be ;>
12:08 ropuch @wunder Wroclaw
12:08 huginn ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is 27.0°C (1:30 PM CEST on July 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
12:54 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
12:54 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.1°C (2:43 PM CEST on July 07, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
12:54 jcamins semarie++
12:55 cait semarie++
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14:50 jcamins Anyone around with a current master install?
14:53 * jcamins remembers magnuse's server.
14:58 cait magnuse++
14:58 cait I used it for my presentation too
14:58 jcamins Unfortunately, I can't find a search that gets me enough results.
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15:01 jcamins Could you please do a search on the OPAC that gets more than two pages of results, and see if the next button works?
15:09 cait jcamins: where?
15:09 cait current master?
15:09 jcamins cait: yup.
15:09 cait have to update first
15:09 cait give me 5 min
15:09 jcamins Thanks.
15:17 mbalmer @later tell mveron check your email ;)
15:17 huginn mbalmer: The operation succeeded.
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15:18 drojf mbalmer: i bet he checks the beach ;)
15:19 mbalmer yes, that's for sure, ouza, metaxa, metaxa and nice food.  I am jealous a bit...
15:19 ropuch ouzo++
15:19 ropuch ;)
15:20 mbalmer anyway, gotta run, laterz..
15:20 ropuch See ya
15:20 ropuch :)
15:20 mbalmer (bbq party)
15:22 francharb hello #koha
15:22 ropuch Hi francharb
15:23 cait hi francharb
15:23 cait hi all
15:23 drojf hey francharb
15:23 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea.  Don't believe me?  Just ask Brooke.
15:23 * cait reads back
15:23 francharb :)
15:30 drojf w00t. my patch for bug 8377 works in a sandbox :)
15:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, ASSIGNED , Show HTML5 video/ audio in OPAC for media files in 856
15:30 jcamins Yay!
15:33 cait drojf:  yay!
15:33 cait add a note to the bug?
15:33 cait maybe a keyword sandbox if that works
15:34 drojf i added a comment
15:35 drojf Schlüsselwort       namens „sandbox“     ist     nicht bekannt.       Sie können sich die Liste gültiger       Schlüsselwörter anzeigen lassen.
15:35 drojf only "regression" is allowed as keyword
15:35 cait ok
15:35 cait I have an installation
15:35 cait where getting reseults nealry takes a minute now
15:35 cait after it used to be quite fast
15:35 cait someone an idea about that? :(
15:36 ropuch top/iotop ;>
15:52 drojf wow. that kohacon 2013 survey is really thrilling
15:52 jcamins drojf: what are the current standigns?
15:52 jcamins *standings
15:53 * jcamins is currently finding that OPAC paging is highly broken.
15:53 jcamins Okay, it worked in 3.8.2.
15:53 drojf 845The National Capital Region, USA [Oct or Mar] (A1)
15:53 drojf 860Erie, Pennsylvania, USA [Summer] (A2)
15:53 drojf 898Reno, NV, USA [Sept or Oct] (A3)
15:53 drojf 888Ibadan, Nigeria [Jul, Aug, or Sept] (A4)
15:53 drojf 897Córdoba, Argentina [Jul, Aug, or Sept] (A5)
15:53 drojf 847Not completed or Not displayed
15:53 drojf *flood*
15:54 jcamins Wow.
15:55 drojf or i slipped somewhere in the spreadsheat and all that is not true :D
15:55 jcamins lol
15:56 cait very close
15:56 cait drojf: do oyu have an installation on master?
15:56 cait could oyu test something for me?
15:57 drojf my git is master. or do you mean something else?
15:59 cait that is perfect
15:59 cait go to your opac
15:59 cait and search someting
15:59 cait and look at  the first result on any result page
16:00 drojf ok mom
16:01 drojf what exactly should i look at?
16:02 cait does it have a title?
16:02 cait showing
16:02 cait and is it the xslt view?
16:02 drojf it has a title. but i think it's not xslt here, wait
16:05 drojf is the general xslt option gone?
16:06 drojf i can only choose a file
16:06 drojf ah
16:06 drojf stupid
16:06 jcamins drojf: default
16:06 drojf yes
16:06 drojf thanks
16:06 jcamins drojf: it's less than obvious.
16:06 jcamins I had that response too earlier.
16:06 drojf yes but reading first would have helped ;)
16:07 drojf cait: so i should turn it on and see? it was off
16:07 cait yes please
16:08 drojf oh. plack. better restart
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16:10 drojf cait: they do have titles
16:11 cait sigh
16:11 cait ok
16:11 drojf did you break something then?
16:12 cait no idea
16:12 cait I should not be able to brak something in master :(
16:12 cait I have rerun makefile
16:12 cait switched to dom indexing
16:12 cait and doing a total reindex now
16:12 cait if that does not fix it
16:12 cait I am out of ideas
16:14 ropuch cait: try to check top / iotop output
16:14 cait ropuch: waiting for the inex to finish
16:14 cait I am not sure what i woul dsee ther
16:14 ropuch I had one testing server killed by nullmailer + rsyslogd
16:14 cait when I do a search it looks like the browser died
16:14 cait and then after waiting a long time I get results
16:15 ropuch iotop will show disk operations, the problem might be linux-related
16:15 ropuch Just a guess, though
16:15 cait thx ropuch :)
16:15 cait still a linux newb
16:15 drojf did you check for that one second bug we had a few days ago? ;)
16:15 cait learning... slowly
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16:15 cait drojf: nope - loking at this smiley I am not sure if you are seroius
16:16 cait but how would I do that in case you are?
16:16 drojf if you have not looked i am serious. what was it about? ntp smeothing something. i think you would generally see that you use a lot of cpu. wait
16:17 cait hm
16:17 cait everything besides a search using zebra is behaving normally :(
16:17 ropuch I had a situation, when nullmaler was trying to send things via mail command, which was not installed,nullmailer was trying, syslogd was loggin and all this read/write disk operation slowed whole box to turtle speed
16:18 cait no
16:18 cait not my symptoms I fear :(
16:18 cait I can watch tv, use the staff client... everything I want on this laptop
16:18 cait only  a search in opac is broken
16:18 drojf cait:[…]eren-1629683.html if you rebooted since then it should not be anything like that
16:18 drojf ok that does not sound like this bug
16:18 cait no :(
16:18 cait *sigh*
16:18 cait oh no
16:18 cait result list is totally broken now for me :(
16:19 jcamins Uh-oh.
16:19 jcamins Do searches in the staff client work?
16:19 drojf have you cleared your cache? i'm not sure what totally broken means
16:25 cait still the same
16:25 cait seems to freeze the browser
16:25 cait then after a minute or so i get results
16:26 cait sorry, had to take care of the washing machine
16:26 jcamins Could it be javascript?
16:26 ropuch And how's the search in staff client?
16:26 drojf do you have a second browser?
16:26 drojf oh
16:26 drojf do oyu have highlighting on?
16:26 ropuch jcamins: that's my guess too
16:26 cait interesting
16:26 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:26 drojf i had an error in the sandbox about that
16:26 cait it's fast in staff
16:26 cait but the result list is broken
16:26 cait
16:27 jcamins o.O
16:27 jcamins Hm.
16:27 * cait reindexes again
16:27 cait I did -r
16:28 drojf oh that looks weird :(
16:28 cait yeah :(
16:28 cait and in opac i ttakes a 100 years to come up with omething similar
16:28 cait the logs are clean
16:28 cait I have noooo idea whatsoever is happening
16:29 cait hm
16:29 cait restart memcache maybe?
16:29 * cait will try that
16:29 cait only thing I haven't restarted or redone now
16:30 jcamins That's what happens when your indexing configuration files are missing.
16:31 jcamins Check zebra_bib_index_mode in koha-conf.xml?
16:31 jcamins You installed it with DOM, but I'm wondering if koha-conf.xml wasn't rewritten for some reason.
16:33 cait ok
16:33 cait checking
16:34 cait dom
16:34 cait same for auth
16:34 cait no grs
16:34 jcamins Okay.
16:35 jcamins Good.
16:35 jcamins But if you had memcached running, that might have had the old koha-conf.xml cached.
16:35 jcamins Try the search again?
16:36 cait browser not reacting
16:36 jcamins Drat.
16:37 jcamins Clear your browser cache?
16:43 cait bah
16:43 cait it's still th same
16:43 cait I will check the error logs again after this search...
16:44 cait perhaps at least something in there now
16:46 jcamins Do other pages in the OPAC load quickly?
16:46 jcamins Do you have anything in opacuserjs?
16:48 cait let me check
16:48 cait hm other pages are fast
16:48 cait opac-authorities for example
16:49 jcamins Okay, that's weird.
16:49 cait nothing in opac-user
16:49 cait js
16:50 jcamins Try restarting the server/
16:50 jcamins *?
16:50 cait hm apache?
16:50 wahanui apache is, like, the ram hog
16:50 jcamins I had in mind the entire system, in case it's the TT files stored in shared memory.
16:50 cait hm
16:51 jcamins (it shouldn't be possible for them to get out of sync, but I'm running out of ideas)
16:51 cait ok
16:51 cait I will reboot
16:51 cait interesting
16:51 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:52 cait I have a second installaton on this computer
16:52 cait and it has the same problem
16:52 cait or.. mom
16:52 cait one moment
16:52 jcamins After rebooting?
16:52 jcamins Darn.
16:53 cait I didn't reboot yet
16:53 cait or I would have been gone
16:53 cait was cataloging something into the second installation
16:53 cait rebooting now
16:58 drojf long reboot…
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16:59 cait back
17:00 jcamins Welcome back.
17:05 cait ook
17:05 cait in my 3.6.x installation it works
17:06 cait and the other installation is dead now
17:06 cait localhost
17:06 wahanui i guess localhost is 0.1
17:06 cait The requested URL / was not found on this server.
17:07 cait hmm
17:07 cait edited the http-conf and corrected a problem there
17:08 cait now the opac is back but search gives no results
17:08 cait started zebra server.. not sure why it was gone
17:08 cait now it freezes again
17:08 cait ok, I have to go :(
17:08 cait it's still broken, how frustrating
17:09 cait jcamins++ ropuch++ drojf++ for helping me
17:09 cait at least I know now it's something with this installation and probably not a linux problem
17:09 drojf :(
17:10 jcamins The collar of my shirt smells like flowers.
17:10 jcamins Lavender.
17:11 jcamins Oh! I bet my wife put some of her incense near it when I hung it up to get the wrinkles to fall out.
17:51 drojf how can i mark at patch obsolete in bugzilla?
17:54 drojf found it
18:17 rangi jcamins_away: thanks for the catch with the opac nav, reverted it
18:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #88 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #88: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/88/
19:12 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 5981 - OPAC: Add limits to search history"
19:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , OPAC: Add limits to search history
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19:37 rangi
19:37 rangi now with more scrolling
19:40 drojf but also more google :P
19:42 libsysguy rangi do you know if there is a pacakge to install koha deps?
19:42 rangi its just jquery, ill wget that file to my server it makes you feel better, i was just using their bandwidth not mine :)
19:42 rangi libsysguy: just install koha-common
19:43 libsysguy was there a repo that i need to add?
19:43 libsysguy i couldn't find that on the wiki
19:43 rangi bywater isnt using the packages yet?
19:43 libsysguy this is for my dev install
19:43 libsysguy and no
19:43 libsysguy I don't think so anyway
19:43 rangi[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
19:43 rangi doing it the hard way then :(
19:44 rangi what i do is install the package, set it up do a koha-create
19:44 libsysguy i think it is an issue with custom code for some libraries
19:44 libsysguy from back in the day
19:44 rangi yeah there is a script to build packages too, so you can do that if you have to
19:44 libsysguy isn't that the one that jcamins worked on?
19:45 rangi once created my instance, just change the koha-conf.xml and virtual host to point to the git checkout
19:46 rangi its the one that the packages are built from, debian/build-git-snapshot
19:46 rangi comes with koha
19:46 libsysguy ah
19:46 * libsysguy has apparent'y been fighting uphill for a long time
19:47 rangi drojf: there you go
19:48 rangi libsysguy: the win comes in when you have repos set up, you can have pockets for clients
19:49 rangi push the package to the repo, then apt-get update; upgrade
19:49 libsysguy I may have to hit up larry about that
19:49 libsysguy may make his life easier
19:50 rangi well at the start it wont it will take a chunk of time to set up, thats probably where its stuck at
19:50 rangi but it scales much better
19:50 libsysguy speaking of scaling…I have been seeing some stuff about koha and nginx
19:51 libsysguy jcamins was saying he saw a pretty big performance boost
19:51 rangi specially with something like puppet so you can out updates across a cluster
19:51 rangi well you cant run koha just with nginx
19:51 libsysguy ugh (wishes we had clustering set up)
19:51 rangi you need either plack, or apache or something behind it still
19:52 libsysguy and plack still isn't ready for intranet right/
19:52 rangi not sure, i think some are running it in production, but youd want to pick the client to try it on
19:53 rangi its way more ready than the faux koha implementation... but comparing ourselves to them ... isnt really even worth doing
19:53 libsysguy right…not a picky one
19:53 libsysguy LOL
19:53 libsysguy yeah i had heard rumors of that too
19:53 libsysguy its been awhile since i've been on the main board
19:54 libsysguy so i just get the devel list
19:54 rangi id try to catch up with dobrica
19:54 libsysguy which is…interesting
19:54 rangi he is the main plack person
19:54 libsysguy gotcha
19:54 rangi drojf has it running on his raspberry pi, and from all accounts works well
19:55 libsysguy well that is promising
19:55 rangi it is really fast
19:56 libsysguy plack is basically a caching engine right?
19:56 * libsysguy is not too familiar with it
19:59 rangi nope
19:59 libsysguy crap
20:00 rangi
20:00 rangi gotta go feed the kids bbiab
20:00 libsysguy w00t catalyst is at the top of the supported list
20:00 libsysguy :p
20:09 jcamins I had nginx in front of Apache.
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20:16 drojf rangi++ # awesome, no google :)
20:16 drojf and it scrolls my name :)
20:18 drojf libsysguy: you would want to try plack on a test install first maybe but from what i can see the staff client works quite good with it. but i have to admit i don't do real library work with it
20:20 francharb good morning/afternoon/night all
20:20 francharb see ya
20:21 libsysguy thanks drojf!  I'll test it out on my test box (when I finish setting it up)
20:21 libsysguy I haven't dont a koha install in so long I've forgotten how :p
20:21 jcamins It's very easy.
20:22 drojf apt-get install koha-common, done
20:22 drojf :)
20:22 libsysguy i think i borked the install trying to get it to run alongside my catalyst work
20:23 drojf whoops
20:23 libsysguy yeah i am reinstalling now
20:23 libsysguy with koha-common you can still run a git install right?
20:24 ropuch Yup
20:24 drojf yes you just have to pint it to git
20:24 drojf point
20:24 ropuch I;m installing koha-comman only to get dependendencies ;>
20:24 libsysguy yeah that is what i was trying to use it for
20:24 libsysguy and it was missing CHI, DateTime, and Moose
20:25 libsysguy but like i said, i probably borked the install lol
20:26 ropuch Date::Pagination & Paginator are the only two modules not available via apt
20:26 libsysguy are they in sid?
20:26 libsysguy or just no available at all
20:27 ropuch[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
20:27 ropuch You need to add repo and key
20:28 jcamins Date::Pagination and Paginator? What are those?
20:29 ropuch Dunno, Makefile.PL from master branch wanted it installed ;>
20:30 jcamins Huh. Wonder what they're fore.
20:30 libsysguy paging dates of course :p
20:30 ropuch Date::Pagination & Paginator are the only two modules not available via apt
20:30 ropuch Uh
20:30 ropuch Data::Paginator - Pagination with Moose
20:31 ropuch ;>
20:31 jcamins Well, I'll package those for my repo at some point.
20:31 jcamins Not right now.
20:32 libsysguy jcamins are you doing something more important?
20:32 jcamins libsysguy: being suitably dignified for the first reader at a wedding? :P
20:33 libsysguy i see
20:33 libsysguy well koha devel sounds more fun to me
20:33 libsysguy but to each their own :p
20:33 jcamins lol
20:33 jcamins Hm, no Time::Progress, either?
20:36 ropuch Oh?
20:36 * jcamins just ran -m
20:36 ropuch Oh?
20:36 ropuch Filename: pool/universe/libt/libtime-progress-pe​rl/libtime-progress-perl_1.7-1_all.deb
20:38 ropuch I;m running Ubuntu-Server 12.04 + koha squeeze repos
20:38 jcamins Ah, I'm on Debian.
20:38 jcamins Oh, no, I just misspelled progress.
20:41 libsysguy ok so for a package newb…how do i switch it over to git once i've installed all the deps?
20:41 jcamins Just do a regular git install.
20:41 libsysguy oh
20:41 libsysguy well that is easy enough
20:42 jcamins You install koha-common to make it install all the dependencies, then install Koha via git.
20:42 libsysguy so the koha-common package doesn't actually do anything more than install the deps?
20:42 * libsysguy is just curious
20:43 jcamins It installs all the code and scripts so that you can create as many instances as you want.
20:44 libsysguy ok that was my next question
20:44 libsysguy :P
20:44 libsysguy "do I still get all the package goodness"
20:44 libsysguy lol
20:44 jcamins Well, you can't use the scripts if you're doing a git install.
20:45 libsysguy but i could also run packages
20:45 libsysguy and it wouldn't complain too much
20:45 jcamins Right.
20:45 jcamins Just change the ports one is using.
20:45 jcamins Or use virtual hosts.
20:45 libsysguy right
20:45 libsysguy that is what i am going to try and set up with catalyst
20:45 libsysguy run them side by side and see who dies first
20:46 libsysguy if koha ever downloads…i forget how big the codebase is
20:47 jcamins Hehe.
20:50 jcamins Well, this is unfortunate.
20:50 libsysguy ?
20:50 jcamins The Perl modules that the new solr code depends on apparently don't compile.
20:50 libsysguy -_-
20:51 libsysguy *sigh*
20:51 jcamins I'll try again with pbuilder, just in case that works better.
20:53 ropuch libtext-unaccent-perl is rquired, but Makefile.PL won't complain about it
20:53 jcamins ropuch: why not?
20:53 jcamins Ooh, in a completely clean environment they build!
20:53 jcamins :D
20:53 ropuch Dunno, I've passed Makefile.Pl , make && make test with no errors
20:54 ropuch But web installer complain about it
20:54 ropuch ;>
20:54 jcamins Wait.
20:55 jcamins Maybe not.
20:55 jcamins There is no package.
20:55 pastebot "libsysguy" at pasted "deps" (15 lines) at
20:55 libsysguy so these are the missing deps I see after installing koha-common
20:55 ropuch Add libtext-unaccent-perl to the list
20:56 jcamins Most are packaged.
20:57 ropuch Yup, Date::Pagin ones are the only ones that are not
20:58 jcamins And Data::Paginator has beat me.
20:58 jcamins Meh. It does say it's optional.
21:03 jcamins Ooh, Graphics Magick is now available from Debian apt repos.
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21:17 cait hi drojf1
21:17 drojf1 hey cait
21:36 drojf1 i wrote something about koha performance on the raspi, including screen recordings with and without plack if anyone is interested[…]aspberry-pi-opac/
21:38 jcamins drojf++
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21:40 mbalmer n'evening
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