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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #764: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/764/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #765 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #762 4 hr 23 min ago) |
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* Oak |
waves |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #765: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/765/ |
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druthb |
o/ |
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rangi |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
:D Hi, rangi! |
| 03:10 |
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mtj |
i have a quick/dumb question about bug 8253 |
| 03:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Fine doubling |
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mtj |
shouldnt the fix to this bug be- a tweak to the fines.pl script? |
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mtj |
... to get the fines.pl script searching the description col with a 'date' value, not a 'datetime' value |
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Brooke |
hoka hey |
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druthb |
hi, Brooke. :) |
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Brooke |
evenin' miss |
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ago43 |
mtj: I think it is because the relevant tables use datetime in 3.8, versus date as the 'type'. |
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ago43 |
I'll ask Kyle for a better explanation. |
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waves |
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Oak |
guten morgen senorita cait |
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cait |
ola senor Oak |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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marcelr |
morning koha |
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reiveune |
hello |
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marcelr |
hi reiveune |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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kf |
guten morgen :) |
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matts |
hi #koha ! |
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mveron |
hi #koha |
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mveron |
Guten morgen kf :-) |
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kf |
hi matts and julian :) |
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mveron |
kf: Can I be of any help with the translation? |
| 07:03 |
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kf |
Sure :) |
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kf |
I haven't started yet and we only have today :( |
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kf |
so not sure I will finish in time for 3.8.3 string freeze tonight |
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kf |
any string you can trasnlate today is a help |
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kf |
most is fuzzy strings in documentation |
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kf |
but reading it I started correcting a lot too |
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mveron |
kf:Ok, I will walk through |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
privet, gaetan_B |
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julian_m |
good morning #koha |
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marcelr |
hi julian_m |
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julian_m |
hi marcelr |
| 07:33 |
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kf |
mveron++ |
| 07:34 |
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mveron |
:-) |
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* mveron |
makes a short break for a support case |
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kf |
mveron: I will check the files for erros ealry afternoon (or at least that's the plan, plz feel free to remind me :) ) |
| 07:35 |
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mveron |
Ok |
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kf |
mveron: what I do is download the files and open them in poedit - it gives errors for mostof the problems and then I correct those on pootle |
| 07:38 |
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mveron |
kf:Thanks, will do |
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kf |
mveron: only telling you - it's not something secret :) |
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mveron |
:-) |
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kf |
mveron: so anyone can check the files, it's only important to do it, because the translation scripts can have problems with errors and stop prematurely without creating all files :( |
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kf |
(like they currently do in 3.8) |
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* mveron |
is back from supporting issue |
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marcelr |
welkom terug mveron |
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mveron |
Daag marcelr. Hoe is het ermee? |
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marcelr |
prima |
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eythian |
wahanui: hi |
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wahanui |
hi, eythian |
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magnuse |
ah yes, translatation |
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marcelr |
mveron: please see 7143 for a similar timeline bug but with a "fix" in about script; you may sign it off :-) |
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mveron |
marcelr: OK, will have a look at it |
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whois |
hi all |
| 09:32 |
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whois |
please help me. |
| 09:32 |
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whois |
Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm |
| 09:33 |
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whois |
please fix solution above? |
| 09:36 |
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mveron |
marcelr: 7143 is signed off |
| 09:37 |
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marcelr |
thx mveron |
| 09:39 |
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eythian |
whois: you're going to have to provide more information. |
| 09:40 |
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mveron |
whois: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]April/032641.html |
| 09:45 |
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whois |
I proceeded to create a new record (books, booklets, workbooks) and select Save and edit items> Add items then the message: |
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whois |
" |
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whois |
Software error: |
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whois |
Can not call method "subfield" on an undefined value at |
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whois |
/ usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line in 2919. |
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whois |
" |
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whois |
I go back then click on page and saw the new record is created |
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whois |
please fix solution on |
| 09:54 |
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matts |
whois, do you have more information in the log file ? |
| 10:00 |
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mveron |
kf: 6 untranslated sentences left. |
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* mveron |
Lunchtime |
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kf |
mveron: wow! great! |
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kf |
mveron: was in a meeting, just came back |
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kf |
mveron++ |
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mveron |
kf: Thanks :-) - but I only did sentences where no translation showed up. I think there is still a lot of correction wor to do. |
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mveron |
kf: Will be back about 2 p.m. |
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kf |
mveron: we have to do all :( |
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kf |
mveron: all that is fuzzy counts as untranslated |
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kf |
so all have to be checked and unfuzzied |
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mveron |
kf: Will work on it after 2 p.m. |
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Oak |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
| 10:18 |
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magnuse |
kia ora Oak and matts |
| 10:19 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 10:19 |
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matts |
? |
| 10:20 |
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eythian |
borrowers.address and borrowers.city can't be null? What madness is this? |
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matts |
ohh, got it ! |
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matts |
:) |
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kf |
eythian: the whole table is a bit messy, lots of different datatypes too |
| 10:28 |
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eythian |
it really is |
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magnuse |
probably one of the oldest tables? :-) |
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kf |
eythian can fix it when he is done with the accounts rewrite ;) |
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eythian |
bah |
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kf |
heh |
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martin_ |
anyone in here any good with SRU... trying to work out how to limit a search by koha itemtype and really not getting very far.? |
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kf |
hi mrenvoize_m |
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magnuse |
martin_: i'm a bit rusty, but i can try... |
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martin_ |
hi kf (yes.. i am logged in twice.. no idea where i'm logged in a mrenvoize the first time though... just keeps saying i'm logged in somewhere) |
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magnuse |
hiya jcamins |
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martin_ |
cheers magnuse.. so initally i'm just trying to get a result limited by itemtype.. |
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martin_ |
my test server is at http://bldscat.ids.ac.uk:9998/[…]&maximumRecords=5 |
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magnuse |
martin_: etc/zebradb/pqf.properties is the key: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]db/pqf.properties |
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martin_ |
the keyword Subject seems to work as expected, but Itemtype does not. It is however picking the right index 1031 (going on the diag message), but bringing up an error instead of results.. any idea's what i might be doing wrong? |
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martin_ |
Yeah, i've been trying to work out that file (and ccl.properties, and bib1.att for that matter) |
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magnuse |
martin_: using marc21? |
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martin_ |
yes |
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magnuse |
etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs is a good place to start, then |
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magnuse |
itemtype is in 952 something, right? |
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martin_ |
yeah, 951$y I beleive |
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martin_ |
thats a new file to me, not looked at that one yet, cheers |
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magnuse |
yup |
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magnuse |
record.abs says that field is indexed in the itype index |
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jcamins |
martin_: did you confirm that you don't want itype (instead of Itemtype)? |
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magnuse |
next: bib1.att says "att 8031 itype" |
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jcamins |
Ah, that's what you are doing now. |
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* jcamins |
stops talking. |
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martin_ |
jcamins, yeah.. tried "itype", "Itemtype" and "itemtype"... |
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martin_ |
capitalisation dones't seem to change the result. |
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magnuse |
but pqf.properties does not mention 8031 :-( |
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magnuse |
it does have "index.dc.itemtype = 1=1031" |
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magnuse |
though |
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ropuch |
If your'e talking koha itemtype it's 942c |
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martin_ |
itype comes up with "Unsupported index" with no message.. whereas "itemtype" comes up with unsupported index, but has a message giving me the correct number for the index "1031" |
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jcamins |
ropuch: yeah, but itype is where the data is actually stored. |
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magnuse |
bib1.att says "att 1031 Material-type" |
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ropuch |
jcamins: oh, kk |
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magnuse |
record.abs says "Material-type" comes from 007 and 502 |
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martin_ |
wow.. it's way mroe of a maze in there than i thought. |
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magnuse |
so as far as i can see there is no way to search for the contents of 952$y in SRU... |
| 11:20 |
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magnuse |
you should be able to do what you want to do by adding a new index to pqf.properties |
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martin_ |
i see... any chance you cold direct me to somewher that says how those files all fit together.. i'm a tad confused with the path you just followed to work that out |
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magnuse |
something like "index.local.itemtype = 1=8031" |
| 11:21 |
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magnuse |
i have explained it in norwegian somewhere once... |
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magnuse |
but let me try to do the short version |
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martin_ |
cheers magnuse.. |
| 11:22 |
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magnuse |
record.abs maps from marc fields (952$y) to zebra indexes (itype) |
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magnuse |
bib1.att maps from zebra indexes (itype) to bib1 attributes (8031) |
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magnuse |
pqf.properties maps from bib1 attributes (8031) to indexes that are available to SRU (e.g. index.dc.itemtype - you can add your own too) |
| 11:25 |
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martin_ |
so pqf is specific to SRU only..? |
| 11:25 |
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magnuse |
hm, not sure, but at least it is the one SRU uses |
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martin_ |
just wondering how cql.properties and ccl.properties fit into the mix.. |
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magnuse |
one is CQL-queries and the other is for CCL queries |
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magnuse |
they are different "query languages" |
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martin_ |
i see.. that makes sense.. the SRU url includes a CQL query to narrow down the search (i.e. the query=itemtype=ART part) as far as i could work out. |
| 11:28 |
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magnuse |
yup |
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martin_ |
thnkas for your help.. you've given me a fair bit more to think about and "play" with.. |
| 11:28 |
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magnuse |
i'm not sure, but maybe it should be "query=dc.itemtype=something" |
| 11:29 |
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martin_ |
i've tried that one too... :P and came up with the same result. |
| 11:29 |
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magnuse |
because dc.itemtype is searching 007something and 502 |
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martin_ |
going to try adding the index.local line you suggested.. that'll require a rebuilt though i assume? |
| 11:30 |
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jcamins |
No, no rebuilding. |
| 11:30 |
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magnuse |
nope, the indexes are already populated, it's just a question of making them available to sru |
| 11:31 |
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jcamins |
If the data is already in the index, you're just telling Zebra about how to make use of the data. |
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martin_ |
ah yeah. of course.. silly me. |
| 11:32 |
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magnuse |
hm, does "melm 502 Material-type" make sense for "502 - Dissertation Note"? |
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martin_ |
the records on this server seem to contain neither 502's nor 007's... maybe not the best server to be testing this against. |
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jcamins |
magnuse: ... maybe? |
| 11:33 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: I wouldn't have thought so, but that's just me. |
| 11:33 |
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magnuse |
me neither, but who am i to say? |
| 11:33 |
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jcamins |
martin_: most records won't have 502s or 007s. |
| 11:35 |
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martin_ |
that's good.. if they should then i my import wasn't very good :p |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 11:36 |
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martin_ |
hmm.. adding the "index.local.itemtype" line doesn't seem to help.. (or index.local.kohaitemtype which i then tried just in case it was clashing with the index.dc.itemtype line above it) |
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magnuse |
how are you using it in the url? |
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martin_ |
as http://bldscat.ids.ac.uk:9998/[…]aximumRecords=100 |
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martin_ |
so "query=kohaitemtype=ART" |
| 11:40 |
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martin_ |
will probably chance to something smaller once i've got it working. |
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magnuse |
hm, try defining it as index.kohaitemtype ? |
| 11:41 |
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martin_ |
same result.. |
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magnuse |
so "index.kohaitemtype = 1=8031" |
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magnuse |
hm |
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martin_ |
even with index.local.kohaitemtype |
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martin_ |
yup |
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magnuse |
hm, it looks like prefixes like "dc" have to be defined, so "local" will not work |
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magnuse |
try "index.dc.kohaitemtype" ? |
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mveron |
kf:Back... |
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kf |
hi oleonard |
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martin_ |
still no luck.. |
| 11:55 |
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kf |
martin_: perhaps file a bug? |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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martin_ |
what do the prefixes actually mean (dc i imagine is dublin core?... but how does that actually relate) |
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martin_ |
hi oleonard |
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martin_ |
kf: maybe, though it might jut be me trying to do somthing others are unlikely to ever want to do? |
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kf |
hm don't think so |
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magnuse |
martin_: i think they are just namespaces, sort of. they are "defined" on lines 13 etc of pqf.properties |
| 11:57 |
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kf |
I can imagine it's something people might want - and someone might read it and have an idea on how to do it :) |
| 11:57 |
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magnuse |
martin_: i know i have successfully added an index for sru, but i can't remember where, and the changes i did are probably lost anyway... |
| 11:58 |
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kylemhall |
bug 8253 now has a new patch ready for sign-off |
| 11:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Fine doubling |
| 11:58 |
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martin_ |
no worries magnuse, you've been really great in upping my understanding of how zebra fits together so far... |
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mveron |
kf: I browse now through Pootle (online) to do items marked as "fragwürdig" |
| 11:59 |
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kf |
mveron: ah, what you can do is |
| 11:59 |
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kf |
mveron: click on the words waiting for translation from this page: |
| 11:59 |
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kf |
http://translate.koha-community.org/de/38/ |
| 11:59 |
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kf |
4302 currently |
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kf |
working on it too right now, waiting for someone |
| 12:00 |
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mveron |
kf: Ok. 4289 currently... |
| 12:01 |
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mveron |
...'benötigen Aufmerksamkeit' |
| 12:01 |
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kf |
this translation is not from me :) |
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kf |
I am working with the english interface |
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mveron |
kf: ...but it sounds very polite :-) |
| 12:02 |
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kf |
heh true :) |
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mveron |
kf: dass Sie nur 1 von mehreren Titeln erhalten wollen 1 -> einen ? English one |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
ingore that |
| 12:05 |
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kf |
I already corrected that string :) |
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kf |
einen |
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kf |
jump to next |
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kf |
4016 now |
| 12:06 |
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mveron |
kf: I skip a couple of entries to prevent collisions |
| 12:06 |
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kf |
lol |
| 12:06 |
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kf |
I just did the same :) |
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mveron |
kf: Ok I go back to the first one... :-) |
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kf |
they are alphabetic |
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kf |
perhaps we should use separate letters? |
| 12:10 |
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kf |
currently mine start with if |
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mveron |
kf: OK, i skip very far ahead. |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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mveron |
hi drojf |
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kf |
hi drojf |
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kf |
want to join the translation fun? |
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kf |
mveron: I am at Wichtig now = Important |
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drojf |
kf: would get problems with my boss i guess. other job today |
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drojf |
could join in the evening |
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drojf |
if you leave me something ;) |
| 12:17 |
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kf |
ah too late then |
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mveron |
kf: By skipping without editing it seems that "fuzzy" is removed, did it with several items witout correcting them. |
| 12:17 |
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kf |
hm no |
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kf |
go back and you see it does not get removed |
| 12:17 |
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kf |
or at least never worked for me |
| 12:18 |
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kf |
3233 now |
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mveron |
Ok. |
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kf |
afaik you either have to change something in the string or remove the fuzzy manually |
| 12:20 |
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oleonard |
After two checkouts and three or four checkins this is what the new statistics page looks like: http://screencast.com/t/iGrvy3ij3 |
| 12:21 |
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oleonard |
Isn't that wrong or am I missing something? |
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mveron |
kf: Ok. No Heinzelmännchen |
| 12:22 |
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drojf |
must. translate. one. alibi. string |
| 12:22 |
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kf |
why location itype and ccode? |
| 12:23 |
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kf |
3059 |
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kf |
and what is previous state? |
| 12:23 |
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kf |
and current state? |
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kf |
2961 |
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oleonard |
From the commit: '"precedent state", the number of checkouts the patron had yesterday on its library card' |
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oleonard |
'"actual state", the number of checkouts on the borrower card at the current date' |
| 12:27 |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
maybe current checkouts |
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kf |
and yesterday's checkouts? |
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drojf |
kf: how would i know why they all are "fragwürdig"? or is it the default for a new version? there is not really anything to translate there |
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* mveron |
has a support case |
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kf |
drojf: something got changed, I think punctuation most of the time |
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kf |
drojf: but it's still very similar to the old version, so marked fuzzy |
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drojf |
ok |
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kf |
@marc 852 |
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huginn |
kf: Identifies the organization holding the item or from which it is available. May also contain detailed information about how to locate the item in a collection. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,s,t,u,x,z,2,3,6,8] |
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kf |
2720 |
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kf |
have to stop now |
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* mveron |
is back |
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oleonard |
So I figured out (Googled) how to generate a patch for a single file among many change files in one commit |
| 12:36 |
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magnuse |
martin_: did you restart zebra when you tested the new index? i just made it work on my dev install, but had to restart |
| 12:36 |
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oleonard |
git format-patch [commit id] file(s) |
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martin_ |
ah. no.. didn't think to restart zebra.. of course.. |
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jcamins |
oleonard++ |
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martin_ |
silly me.. it won't read the ocnfig file otherwise.. |
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magnuse |
martin_: yup |
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* magnuse |
is silly too |
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martin_ |
thanks magnus, works like a dream now! |
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magnuse |
w00t! |
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gaetan_B |
fredericd: bonjour :) until what time can we send the .po i am working on for 3.8.2 ? |
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* martin_ |
would hug magnus if he was close :p |
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martin_ |
cheers |
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magnuse |
yay ;-) |
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kf |
fredericd: same queston from me :) |
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jcamins |
martin_: if you look in kohaclone/etc/zebradb, you'll find the files that get installed. |
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eythian |
select count(attribute),distinct(attribute) from borrower_attributes where code='WARD' group by attribute; |
| 12:52 |
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eythian |
why is that a syntax error? |
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martin_ |
haha.. you just read my comment on the bug.. cheers jcamins |
| 12:53 |
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kf |
hm maybe count and distinct? |
| 12:53 |
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kf |
not ure you need the distinct |
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eythian |
select count(attribute),attribute from borrower_attributes where code='WARD' group by attribute; |
| 12:54 |
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eythian |
that's what I actually want |
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kf |
select count(attribute), attribute |
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martin_ |
try select count(distinct(attribute)) from borrower_attributes where code='WARD' group by attribute; |
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jcamins |
Yeah, distinct does not do what you think it does. |
| 12:54 |
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eythian |
but I still don't understand why the first is a syntax error |
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kf |
group by already gives you distinct |
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martin_ |
oop. think i got the wrong end of that stick.. i'll leve the pro's to answer that one. |
| 12:54 |
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kf |
I think both togehter don't work |
| 12:54 |
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eythian |
kf: it's an error without the group by |
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jcamins |
DISTINCT isn't a function. |
| 12:55 |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
correct |
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eythian |
jcamins: that's probably the key point |
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kf |
keyword? |
| 12:55 |
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kf |
or how do you call those? |
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jcamins |
It's a modifier to SELECT. |
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ropuch |
Yup, it's like "SELECT" and "SELECT DISTINCT" |
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eythian |
yeah, makes sense then why it'd not work |
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eythian |
https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch <-- that is certainly something |
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magnuse |
lol |
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ropuch |
hehe |
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mveron |
kf: Do we have a bug omnibus for typos found in the original text? |
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jcamins |
lol |
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magnuse |
mveron: bug 7367 and bug 7368 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7367 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General OPAC typo omnibus |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus |
| 13:03 |
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* jcamins |
must find a use for foot pedals in his computer usage. |
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eythian |
jcamins: I could see it also being useful for emacs modifiers, if you swing that way |
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mveron |
magnuse: Thanks, this time I bookmark them... |
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jcamins |
eythian: you'd need about fifty pedals for Emacs. |
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* oleonard |
pictures a pipe organ |
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eythian |
only 5: escape, meta, alt, ctrl, shift |
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kf |
mveron: yes, try typo omnibus |
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kf |
ah, my scrolling always breaks :( |
| 13:08 |
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jcamins |
eythian: but you can't press more than two pedals at a time, so you need... 5! |
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jcamins |
No, that's not quite right. |
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jcamins |
The order doesn't matter. |
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mveron |
kf: I make a omnibus comment for the omnibus. :-) |
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* jcamins |
ponders. |
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jcamins |
5 + 10 + 10 + 5 + 1 |
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wahanui |
31 |
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jcamins |
There you go 31 different combinations of modifier keys. |
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jcamins |
So I suppose you could get away with about 15 pedals. |
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jcamins |
(because you have two feet) |
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tcohen |
hi #koh |
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tcohen |
a |
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kf |
mveron++ drojf++ :) |
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mveron |
:-) |
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ago43 |
mtj: about the fines doubling patch, Kyle wrote: It seems like a bad idea to try switching this one part of Koha back to just dates when we've moved forward to datetimes. I have a new patch ready that updates the old fine dates to datetimes instead. |
| 13:39 |
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drojf |
oh it's done already? |
| 13:39 |
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kf |
mveron: checking for syntax errors now :) |
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drojf |
i wonder how we could make the translation more consistent |
| 13:40 |
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kf |
checking the pages after initial translation I think :( |
| 13:40 |
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kf |
and searching for the words in question |
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kf |
iterative... |
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kf |
ah 2 fatal errors |
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mveron |
kf: I do a general search for things like "Feld, in dem..." to replace with "Feld, wo..." |
| 13:41 |
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kf |
Feld, wo? |
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kf |
ok, now I got confused :) |
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mveron |
kf: Ist das nicht besser? Ein Feld, wo ... eingegeben werden können |
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drojf |
i think i need a standard version then |
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kf |
hm sounds not right to me |
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drojf |
ein feld wo ist süddeutsch |
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kf |
kinda swabian |
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drojf |
yes |
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kf |
or maybe swiss :) |
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kf |
I think "hochdeutsch" is in dem? |
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drojf |
there were some things like that |
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drojf |
"ein feld scheint auf" :D |
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kf |
ah yes |
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kf |
I have corrected one of those heh |
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mveron |
OK, I do a search on "Feld, wo" :-) |
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kf |
ok, I am trying to find the fatal errors now :) |
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* drojf |
hopes he did not do them ;) |
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kf |
heh, I don't see who did and it happens so easily |
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kf |
we only have to remember to check |
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drojf |
haha i hoped you would not be able to see who did it :D |
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kf |
%s No %sproperties%ssearch domain%s defined. - missing %s in translation |
| 13:45 |
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kf |
hm and something in here |
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kf |
Koha › Administration › Budgets %s› %s Modify budget'%s' %s Add budget %s %s %s› Duplicate budget%s %s› Delete budget '%s'? %s %s› Data deleted %s |
| 13:45 |
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drojf |
had none of those strange ones |
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mveron |
kf and drojf: "...ein Suchfeld, wo Sie entweder eine Lieferanten- oder eine Bestellungssuche durchführen können." It is the only one i changed, as far as I remember |
| 13:47 |
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kf |
most of the docs sound a bit weird |
| 13:47 |
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kf |
I think it would be better if we could translate the whole manual |
| 13:47 |
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kf |
and koha would pull in sections from there |
| 13:47 |
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drojf |
i wonder if it is possible to have some kind of dictionary/thesaurus for koha-librarianese that suggests translations based on context (module) |
| 13:47 |
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kf |
this way we would have a complete manual and context help |
| 13:47 |
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kf |
we could start a list on the wiki |
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kf |
or create mark records / authorities ;) |
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kf |
marc records |
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drojf |
marc records for translation? |
| 13:48 |
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kf |
I was joking :) |
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drojf |
would be an excellent project for somebody with a lot of time to spare :D |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
opac was ok :) |
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drojf |
i would like more than a list. i have to think about that sometimes. i think i said that the last time already :/ |
| 13:50 |
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drojf |
perhaps the manual could really be a start |
| 13:50 |
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magnuse |
+1 for ditching the help pages and integrating the manual! |
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jcamins |
+1 |
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mveron |
+1 |
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jcamins |
drojf++ # for having time to spare! :D |
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drojf |
heh |
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* jcamins |
will see if he can persuade Shari that this would be a good use of her time. |
| 13:54 |
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kf |
would need some pgoramming too :( |
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jcamins |
kf: that's what I meant I would persuade her to do. ;) |
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kf |
ooh :) |
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* oleonard |
hopes she doesn't shout "Shut up, nerd!" and kick sand in jcamins' face |
| 13:56 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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jcamins |
Actually- why *don't* we do that already? |
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* jcamins |
will ask nengard, but it seems to him that life would be much easier for the doc manager if everything did not have to be copied from the manual. |
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oleonard |
Kick sand in each other's faces? |
| 14:00 |
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jcamins |
Extract our context-sensitive help directly from the manual. |
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mveron |
jcamins: ++ |
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tcohen |
julian_m: may we talk about bug 8110 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Fines accruing on closed days |
| 14:02 |
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jcamins |
Speaking of releasing things... |
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julian_m |
tcohen, yes. do you know why dates are truncated? |
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tcohen |
i can guess |
| 14:04 |
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julian_m |
removing the 2 calls to truncate seems to fix my problem |
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tcohen |
it has to do with how are dates substracted |
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tcohen |
a date includes hour and minutes data |
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tcohen |
so who wrote the code wanted the day part to be taken into account |
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julian_m |
but the other parts have to be taken into account too |
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tcohen |
of course |
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tcohen |
i was just guessing why it was truncated |
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tcohen |
i would even add that hourly loans might make this messier |
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tcohen |
if its being usend in that case |
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julian_m |
I think the problem was introduced by this commit c6f1f64cb71e9d8ec560a201a4a0bc16c1510f3f, subtraction is moved after truncation |
| 14:13 |
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tcohen |
bug 8251 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 14:13 |
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tcohen |
that's a patch I wrote |
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tcohen |
maybe truncation should be removed ? |
| 14:15 |
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julian_m |
i don't know, maybe just replacing subtraction before truncation would suffice |
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tcohen |
I don't understand why that would make the job |
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tcohen |
i'll re-read it |
| 14:16 |
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tcohen |
maybe truncation was not working at all as ->truncate('days') was used instead of the documented ->trunctaion('day') |
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julian_m |
tcohen, I'm testing truncate, it seems that "to => 'days'" dont' do anything and "to => 'day'" reset hour,minute and second to 0, so I don't understand why removing truncate from days_between fixed my problem... |
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tcohen |
I think we fixed things in a higher level |
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tcohen |
assuming truncation was working... |
| 14:31 |
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tcohen |
not sure as I've been out for a while |
| 14:31 |
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tcohen |
so, fixing the truncate use ight have consequences |
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tcohen |
julian_m, which is the function that is failing? |
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tcohen |
(in fines.pl ?) |
| 14:35 |
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tcohen |
oh my... |
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tcohen |
truncate( to => 'minutes') |
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julian_m |
tcohen, in fact i think it's C4::Overdues::_get_chargeable_units which return $duration->in_units('days') and it doesn't take months or years into account |
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julian_m |
where do you see that? |
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tcohen |
grep -R 'truncate(' * | grep -v 'translator' | grep minute | grep 'truncate' |
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tcohen |
i was just following Jonathan Druart advise to fix the truncate usage everywhere |
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* jcamins |
tests 3.6.6. |
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jcamins |
I guess I should send a message to koha-translate reminding you all that you have to finish before fredericd's close of business on Friday. |
| 14:39 |
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jcamins |
kf: mveron: drojf: I'm looking at you! |
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jcamins |
gaetan_B: you too. |
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kf |
jcamins: we have finished already. |
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jcamins |
kf: for 3.6.x, too? |
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kf |
of course |
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gaetan_B |
jcamins: i am double-checking what i have been doing right now and will send it in shortly ! |
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jcamins |
:) |
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kf |
:P |
| 14:41 |
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jcamins |
kf++ |
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jcamins |
mveron++ |
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jcamins |
drojf++ |
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jcamins |
gaetan_B++ |
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kf |
were not many strings for 3.6.x |
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kf |
3.8 was the hard one and mveron did most of ti :) |
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* mveron |
...and introduces some helvetismes |
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drojf |
heh |
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kf |
heh |
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kf |
fair enough :) |
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drojf |
mveron: we need a swissgerman version |
| 14:42 |
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kf |
drojf: but who will translate for us when mveron has his own verson? |
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jcamins |
kf: drojf? ;) |
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mveron |
drojf: ...in each of our dialects: Füfefufg, fünfefuzig, feufefuzg for 55 :-) |
| 14:43 |
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drojf |
mveron: we don't need a swissgerman version |
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kf |
fredericd++ |
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drojf |
:P |
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jcamins |
Feufefuzg? |
| 14:43 |
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mveron |
Feufefüfzg is correct. For 55 |
| 14:43 |
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kf |
citing fredericd "For translators working like mad in order to improve their language support in coming Koha 3.8.2, you can work until 7pm UTC." |
| 14:44 |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
I am checking 3.6.3 for errors now |
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jcamins |
mveron: I don't know any German at all, and that word I can't even figure out how to pronounce! |
| 14:46 |
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kf |
don't try |
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kf |
you only hurt your throat |
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mveron |
jcamins: No need for you :-) We won't understand :-) |
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drojf |
how does that work with the nynorsk translation? i think there are a lot of different forms too |
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jcamins |
lol |
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kf |
oh |
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drojf |
oh nevermind, there is not much nynorsk atm it seems |
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kf |
one error in 3.6.x staff |
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kf |
fixed |
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kf |
jcamins: now I am sad |
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kf |
jcamins: I have to wait for 3.6.6 until 20112? |
| 14:50 |
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kf |
perhaps I should get myself one of those cryo tanks |
| 14:50 |
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jcamins |
Oops. |
| 14:50 |
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kf |
;) |
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julian_m |
tcohen, I wrote a comment on bug 8110, if you want to see... |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Fines accruing on closed days |
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tcohen |
i've just read it |
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jcamins |
julian_m: doesn't DateTime provide support for figuring out leap years? |
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tcohen |
it does |
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magnuse |
nynorsk has its own translation, which noone is looking after at the moment |
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julian_m |
DateTime maybe but not DateTime::Duration |
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tcohen |
$dt->is_leap_year |
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julian_m |
it contains only a number of years, months, days, ... |
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tcohen |
julian_m, but adding a duration to a date should work as expected |
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jcamins |
julian_m: and not the start and end dates? That doesn't seem very localizeable. |
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julian_m |
jcamins, Data::Dumper tell me that: |
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julian_m |
$VAR1 = bless( { |
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julian_m |
'seconds' => 22, |
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julian_m |
'minutes' => 1006, |
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julian_m |
'end_of_month' => 'wrap', |
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julian_m |
'nanoseconds' => 0, |
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julian_m |
'days' => 30, |
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julian_m |
'months' => 0 |
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julian_m |
}, 'DateTime::Duration' ); |
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jcamins |
Pfeh. |
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* jcamins |
agrees with your suggestion. |
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julian_m |
tcohen, yes this should work, but we need a number of days :/ |
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jcamins |
At least as a temporary fix. |
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jcamins |
I think. |
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* jcamins |
isn't an expert. |
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tcohen |
$duration->days doesn't work? |
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julian_m |
days return only the day part, month the month part, etc.. |
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julian_m |
tcohen, try this: perl -E 'use DateTime; my $dt = DateTime->now(); $dt->truncate(to => 'day'); say $dt->year . "-" . $dt->month . "-" . $dt->day . "T" . $dt->hour . ":" . $dt->minute . ":" . $dt->second . "Z";' |
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tcohen |
yes, but rn't we trying to calculate fines using duration->days ? |
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julian_m |
hmm bad example, it doesn't use DateTime::Duration.. |
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julian_m |
tcohen, i believe we're using $duration->in_units('days') which seems to be the same thing |
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reiveune1 |
bye$ |
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julian_m |
not the same thing in fact, in_units is able to do some conversion, like years to months (always 12 months/year), or weeks to days (7days/week) but not months to days |
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julian_m |
i have to go, bye all! |
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jcamins |
nengard: I had a question for you. |
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nengard |
yup? |
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jcamins |
Would I be correct in thinking your life would be easier if the context sensitive help for Koha were pulled directly from the manual? |
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jcamins |
So you didn't have to copy it in before each release. |
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kf |
translators would love it :) |
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nengard |
yes that would make my life easier |
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jcamins |
Okay, that's what I thought. |
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nengard |
what wouldn't make my life easier would be splitting the manual up in to multiple files or going away from docbook |
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kf |
nengard: perhaps there are nicer things than docbook |
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kf |
I think mahara uses some kind of wiki - the syntax looks lots easier |
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nengard |
transferring to docbook was a pain in the arse |
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kf |
yeah, we would have to convert it |
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nengard |
and I don't want to transfer again - not when I finally have it down to a science |
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kf |
not rewriting anything |
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nengard |
and we have scripts in place to generate the html and ? all of it took forever to get in place |
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jcamins |
nengard: my thought was that we already have the needed context information in IDs (and if we are missing it a few places, we should add it), and then Koha could just extract the content from Docbook. |
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nengard |
and the community voted on docbook cause it was easy for translators |
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nengard |
or so I was told |
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nengard |
when I learned it |
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nengard |
years ago |
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* jcamins |
doesn't care what the format is. |
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nengard |
jcamins - yes I have all the IDs in there |
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jcamins |
That's what I thought. |
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kf |
was only thinking a wiki might be easier for translators to work in - cooperatively - but I understand it would be hard to change now |
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nengard |
oh god! the wiki would be horrible! |
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kf |
nengard: not our wiki - it's a different softare. don't panic! |
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nengard |
hehe |
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kf |
I was only reading a blog post from anitsirk recently, where she said how the mahara community does translatable manuals |
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* jcamins |
panics. :D |
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kf |
wah |
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* kf |
starts working on her next ticket, hiding behind it |
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francharb |
0/ |
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jcamins |
Um, wow. |
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jcamins |
That's quite a problem that just came across the list. |
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oleonard |
Õ‡Õ |
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oleonard |
Õ«Õ |
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oleonard |
Õ¿Õ |
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* jcamins |
doesn't know any Armenian. |
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jcamins |
But at least I know it's Armenian and not Georgian. I used to get the two alphabets confused, which was very embarrassing. |
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trea |
are there any resources for showing how relevance works in koha? |
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jcamins |
trea: I recommend the following: |
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jcamins |
1. Hazmat suit. |
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jcamins |
2. Strong liquor. |
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trea |
roger that |
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jcamins |
3. Looking in C4/Search.pm around line 760, in sub _build_weighted_query. |
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* oleonard |
hopes his patch for Bug 8281 made it through to the patches list |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8281 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove unused YUI files |
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oleonard |
Ooops, no it didn't. |
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oleonard |
I guess attaching it to the bug will have to suffice. |
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oleonard |
Over 8 megabytes of YUI-killing goodness. |
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jcamins |
Wow! |
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oleonard |
All stuff we weren't using anyway |
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jcamins |
8MB of unneeded files? |
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jcamins |
Ouch. |
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oleonard |
Great, Bugzilla won't take it either. :( |
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magnuse |
oleonard++ |
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mveron |
nengard, kf, jcamins, drojf, magnuse: I think we can implement something that does not really change the process for manual authoring.... |
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* mveron |
will try dive into the whole manual / help / trsnalation process to understand the status quo |
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jcamins |
mveron: that was my thought. I just want to change the process for help files. |
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jcamins |
I would like all the translations to come from the manual translations. |
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* oleonard |
prints out his patch and snail-mails it to random Koha people hoping for a sign-off |
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jcamins |
lol |
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mveron |
jcamins: Could be some sections in the manual, something like "Quickhelp". If the whole manual is not translated, there could be at least a version just with the "Quickhelp". Koha then could grab those sections (defaulting to the original). |
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mtj |
oleonard: or push yr huge-patch to your github (or similar) and paste that url in the bug? |
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oleonard |
Just did :) |
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jcamins |
mveron: exactly what I was thinking. |
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mtj |
owen, nice one :) |
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mveron |
jcamins: We could even do something like a "lazy initialization". First time, Koha grabs the section (could even be online) , then put it in a database. Some Hash could make sure thatwe always have the newest version (or a button "get newset version"). The table could contain a field for private notes that are not affected by updates. |
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jcamins |
mveron++ # great minds think alike |
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mveron |
:-) |
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mveron |
It's the somewhat cumbersome translation work that makes me think :-) |
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oleonard |
mtj: How'd you like working with bootstrap? |
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mtj |
super easy, super fun :) |
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mtj |
i now have real-world reason to want koha upgraded to gpl3.... |
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kf |
oleonard: wrong branch? ps-bug-8194-subscription-add-columns-2012-06-15 |
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oleonard |
:( |
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oleonard |
ps-bug-8281-remove-yui-files-2012-06-21 |
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jcamins |
What is bootstrap? |
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oleonard |
http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ |
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oleonard |
mtj, what does gpl3 have to do with it? Are we incompatible? |
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eythian |
shouldn't be |
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mtj |
appartently so, bootstrap is apache2 license (which is incompatible with koha's gpl2 license?) :/ |
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eythian |
then you say "koha is gpl3" and it magically is :) |
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mtj |
whew, glad we got that sorted! |
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mtj |
http://www.apache.org/licenses[…]ompatibility.html |
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eythian |
I think all of koha is "gpl2 or later" |
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mtj |
ok, chris.c said something similar when i asked him |
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mtj |
i still don't quite understand that 'or later' part of the gpl... |
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jcamins |
It means that you can choose to treat it as GPL2, or GPL3, or GPL4... |
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mtj |
ok, cool - i'm very happy to be wrong then :) |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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kf |
bye all :) |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: oldstable|main|source: libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl 0.03-1 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian++ |
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eythian |
all uploaded. |
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eythian |
I might email an announcement that that repo exists. |
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drojf |
please do |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]0_on_Debian_Lenny <-- this kind of thing shouldn't be on the wiki any more |
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eythian |
at least without a warning |
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* eythian |
adds a warning |
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drojf |
eythian: maybe we can have a "good old days" section or something for things like that. there may be a reason for someone to come back to look at this, i dont know. but it should not pop up in a search engine if someone wants to get koha in 2012 |
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eythian |
yeah. For now I just stuck a big bold message at the top of the page |
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drojf |
eythian++ # it's beautiful ;) |
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eythian |
I'm all about the art ;) |
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drojf |
now you have to maintain that page forever and fix the link every six months ;) |
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drojf |
or just put one on the 3.8 page when it's time and give new users a nice ride through koha history before they start |
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eythian |
drojf: no, every time it gets updated, I edit the 3.8 page and make it redirect to the new number :) |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze <-- for example |
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eythian |
(I don't know why it stops in the middle though |
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eythian |
) |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze <-- oh, here is where it starts |
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drojf |
:D |
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drojf |
why doesn't 3.0 do that= |
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drojf |
? |
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eythian |
there were no packages for 3.0 |
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drojf |
ah, right |
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eythian |
I really need to re-write that wiki page from scratch, it's getting a bit messy |
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eythian |
Should probably also rename it to not have version numbers in the title... |
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eythian |
email: sent |
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eythian |
I might go home or something |
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Oak |
And as I watch the drops of rain |
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Oak |
/ Weave their weary paths and die / |
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Oak |
I know that I am like the rain / |
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Oak |
There but for the grace of you go I |
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* cait |
waves |
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drojf |
hi cait :) |
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cait |
hi drojf |
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nengard |
question about overdue report |
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nengard |
can anyone tell me on this page: /cgi-bin/koha/circ/overdue.pl what does "Show any items currently checked out:" do? |
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nengard |
it's one of the filters on the left |
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cait |
not sure actually :( |
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cait |
shouldn't tey all be checked out? |
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nengard |
right |
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nengard |
hence my confusion |
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cait |
no idea |
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nengard |
HA |
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nengard |
anyone else? should we remove it if it doesn't do anything? |
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cait |
I think the code would reveal it |
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cait |
but I have to learn accounting :( have my exam tomorrow |
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oleonard |
$strsth.=" AND date_due < '" . $todaysdate . "' " unless ($showall); |
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oleonard |
Checking the box will show any item which matches the filter even if it's not overdue? |
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cait |
hah |
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cait |
I just had the same idea reading nengard's report |
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cait |
maybe it's supposed to show all items checked out by the user with overdues |
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cait |
or even all and everything? |
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nengard |
so ? wait a sec ? sounds like a bug to me |
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cait |
oleonard: can you see who added it with a git blame ? |
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wizzyrea |
it would about have to be biblibre, I believe they did the dev that added that. |
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wizzyrea |
added the filters I mean |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
thought we might find an explnation on the commit maybe |
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oleonard |
bug 2866: Overdues Reports - Upgrading to filter by patron extended attributes |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2866 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Filtering and sorting the overdue report using patron attributes |
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cait |
hm |
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sekjal |
should Koha use "highly experimental" Perl syntax? |
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jcamins_away |
sekjal: uh, no. |
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jcamins_away |
Unless there's a really super-compelling reason, like... |
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jcamins_away |
Uhhh... |
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sekjal |
http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsy[…]Switch-Statements |
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sekjal |
given/when |
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jcamins_away |
Ooh. |
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jcamins_away |
That for() block is brilliant. |
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sekjal |
I love switch statements |
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jcamins_away |
Me too. |
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sekjal |
glad Perl is finally starting to get a handle on them |
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jcamins_away |
I didn't realize there was a workaround to be able to use them already. |
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sekjal |
now that we're minimum 5.10, I think it's available |
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jcamins_away |
It seems to me that the for example would actually work with any version of Perl, with a very small modification. |
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oleonard |
MARC preview with jQueryUI Dialog instead of Greybox: http://screencast.com/t/dxrfNoxVmkt |
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sekjal |
oleonard: nice! |
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jcamins_away |
FWIW, I am still 1000% pro Test::MockModule. |
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cait |
nice! |
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jcamins_away |
I disagree strenuously with marcelr's assertion that we shouldn't be testing counterfactual conditions. |
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jcamins_away |
(see what I did there?:) |
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jcamins_away |
Nice! |
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jcamins_away |
Incidentally, for those who are curious, there is not actually any reason that we couldn't put Zebra config files on /dev/shm, and modify them from staff client. |
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jcamins_away |
(other than the obvious, it's too much trouble) |
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ger |
is there anyone who can help me to an koha error? |
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oleonard |
Only if you ask the question ger! |
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ger |
im installed koha in centos 5.5 and when i enter in the intranet i get the follow error "Can't call method "id" on an undefined value at InstallAuth.pm line 278." |
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ger |
the error_log of koha it returns me the following |
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ger |
install.pl: Can't call method "id" on an undefined value at InstallAuth.pm line 278. |
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ger |
losedir() attempted on invalid dirhandle DIR at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 201. |
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ger |
closedir() attempted on invalid dirhandle DIR at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 201. |
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drojf |
i dont know anything about centos, but is there a reason why you chose a version that is 2 years old to install? and what version of koha do you use? |
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jcamins_away |
There was someone else using CentOS recently. That person might know something about it. |
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jcamins_away |
first question? |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
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jcamins_away |
Yikes. I'd say there is no way it's going to work. |
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jcamins_away |
Sounds like something wasn't installed properly. |
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jcamins_away |
CentOS 5.5 is 2 years old? |
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drojf |
5.5 i386, x86-64 5.5 2010-05-14 |
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jcamins_away |
(I hope I'm wrong, but modern CentOS versions are hairy) |
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drojf |
6.3 is the latest according to wikipedia |
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drojf |
there is a wiki page about 3.6 in centos 6.2 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_Centos_6.2_i386 |
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jcamins_away |
Sounds worth a try. |
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ger |
the reason that ihave centos its cos actuallity the server is in production, so i can't change de version of the OS, why i'll have a lot of problems with the other aplications |
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drojf |
and what version of koha did you install? |
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jcamins_away |
I would consider running Debian under some sort of virtualization. Everything I know about Koha and CentOS has convinced me that it is not something I would want to try. |
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drojf |
heh |
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ger |
koha-3.00.00 |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: ask sekjal. I think he installed Koha under CentOS once. I believe every single system utility had to be replaced. |
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drojf |
omg |
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jcamins_away |
The current version of Koha is 3.8.1 (soon to be 3.8.2) or 3.6.5 (soon to be 3.6.6). |
| 19:34 |
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drojf |
sounds fun :D |
| 19:35 |
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sekjal |
nope, never tried CentOS |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins_away |
You should use one of those. |
| 19:35 |
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drojf |
yes, 3.0 is two years old and not supported anymore |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins_away |
sekjal: what OS was it you had tried, then? |
| 19:35 |
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wizzyrea |
ger why 3.0.0? Where did you get that? |
| 19:35 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: mostly just do Debian and Ubuntu |
| 19:35 |
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sekjal |
larryb worked on getting RedHat to work once |
| 19:35 |
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wajasu |
when is 3.8.2 targetted. i want to patch and test some stuff |
| 19:35 |
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sekjal |
it was horrible |
| 19:35 |
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sekjal |
and, ultimately, a no-go |
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jcamins_away |
sekjal: I must have been thinking of Redhat. |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins_away |
And larryb. |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins_away |
Sorry, larryb! |
| 19:36 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: ca. six hours from now? |
| 19:37 |
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wajasu |
maybe next time round. |
| 19:37 |
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drojf |
ger: you should try 3.6 or 3.8. take 3.8 if you don't plan to go live within the next weeks |
| 19:37 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: you should submit patches against master. Right away. |
| 19:38 |
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jcamins_away |
:) |
| 19:38 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: also, I've decided I don't like sbuild. It is not nearly so contained as pbuilder. |
| 19:38 |
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ger |
anyone knows an installation guide for the latest version of koha? |
| 19:38 |
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ger |
maybe i have to try the latest version |
| 19:38 |
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jcamins_away |
However, rangi introduced me to ssh-agent, which removes the need to enter my password over and over. |
| 19:38 |
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drojf |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_Centos_6.2_i386 you could try this on centos 5.5 i guess |
| 19:39 |
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jcamins_away |
ger: you know that the Koha website is koha-community.org, right? |
| 19:39 |
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drojf |
or use a virtual machine and debian |
| 19:39 |
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drojf |
jcamins_away: he would have 4.x otherwise i guess ;) |
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ger |
maybe debian it's the best choice jeje |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: true. |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins_away |
ger: I would go with virtualization + Debian, definitely. |
| 19:40 |
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drojf |
ger: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 19:40 |
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wajasu |
is there any place/page someone declares the target release dates? |
| 19:41 |
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ger |
ok i gonna try |
| 19:41 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: there is somewhere, but basically the 22nd and 23rd of the month. |
| 19:41 |
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jcamins_away |
Major releases are once every six months. |
| 19:41 |
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jcamins_away |
April/October. |
| 19:41 |
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ger |
thks for the help!!! :) |
| 19:41 |
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jcamins_away |
Minor monthly. |
| 19:41 |
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wajasu |
ok that works. |
| 19:41 |
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drojf |
ger: good luck |
| 19:41 |
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jcamins_away |
But you have to get your patches signed off and QAed, and everything, so you should plan to submit everything ASAP. |
| 19:41 |
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drojf |
come back if you have problems |
| 19:41 |
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drojf |
or just stay ;) |
| 19:41 |
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wajasu |
i won't lookk at sbuild. |
| 19:43 |
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wajasu |
jcamins: with proot, i couldn't figure out how to get mysql-server to install, since its post_install script hang stopping the mysql server. |
| 19:44 |
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jcamins_away |
As releases near, RMs and RMaints get a lot more conservative about what they push, usually. |
| 19:44 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: I don't think I had to do anything special to get it working. I think it pretty much just worked right off. |
| 19:45 |
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wajasu |
i ran proot, and whn i installed koha-common, and mysql-server was installed, it hung. now my host OS is archlinux. |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins_away |
Probably has to do with needing something special with Arch. |
| 19:47 |
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wajasu |
so you got koha-common installed under proot? |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, though I it was a while ago. |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins_away |
Well, last week. |
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rangi |
Morning |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
Hmm a cat on the bus today |
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oleonard |
A hep cat? |
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wizzyrea |
i can has no more phone ringing plz kthx |
| 20:11 |
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rangi |
Off to the vet cat |
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rangi |
Had 3 guide dogs on yesterday |
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drojf |
good morning rangi |
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cait |
morning rangi :) |
| 20:18 |
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rangi |
Ohh pull request from fredericd |
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rangi |
fredericd++ |
| 20:19 |
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rangi |
And yay mveron |
| 20:20 |
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rangi |
German_translators++ |
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cait |
and hopefully all errors fixed too |
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cait |
fingers crossed |
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rangi |
Ich danke der Mann |
| 20:21 |
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rangi |
Is that right? |
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cait |
dem Mann heh |
| 20:22 |
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rangi |
Dang |
| 20:22 |
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cait |
perhaps better try French with fredericd? |
| 20:23 |
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rangi |
I'll have to do more duolingo.com |
| 20:25 |
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rangi |
slef: tried the gorge best last night I like it |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
rangi: you will go back to get more? |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:30 |
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rangi |
Sometime yes :-) |
| 20:32 |
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oleonard |
See you later #koha |
| 20:33 |
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rangi |
Brian |
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rangi |
Autocorrect must die |
| 20:37 |
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rangi |
Bbiab |
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rangi |
back |
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kathryn |
hi all |
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* kathryn |
waves to cait |
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* cait |
waves to kathryn :) |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
hope no more soup accidents? |
| 20:49 |
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kathryn |
hehe, no. |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
drojf++ #a good question |
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drojf |
forgot to ask about the os though. we'll keep him busy ;( |
| 20:52 |
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drojf |
;) |
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* rangi |
starts work on release notes |
| 20:59 |
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drojf |
rangi++ #yeah new koha |
| 21:00 |
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drojf |
duckduckgo asks testers about relevancy. excellent. time to talk about the ranking of koha vs. the fork again |
| 21:00 |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
equinox++ |
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rangi |
http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/[…]sitem.php?id=2193 |
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rangi |
fredericd++ # i love how the pull requests always just work! |
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schuster |
Howdy all. I was looking at my logs on our new installation as of June 6th and found tons of errors in the koha-opac-error_log I'm pasting 2 lines that seem to continue to generate |
| 21:12 |
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pastebot |
"schuster" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "errors in the koha-opac-error_log" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/3 |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
seems like you have no language preference set |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
look in systempreferences |
| 21:12 |
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schuster |
I'm not seeing this in the bugs so wasn't sure if it is unique to me or not. |
| 21:12 |
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schuster |
Ah thanks! |
| 21:13 |
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rangi |
and the i18n/l10n tab |
| 21:13 |
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rangi |
try checking en in there it might make it go away |
| 21:14 |
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schuster |
hm that is already set. I'll undo it and redo it and see if that helps. |
| 21:14 |
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rangi |
worth a crack nigel |
| 21:15 |
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schuster |
nope still outputting errors. |
| 21:15 |
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rangi |
hmm |
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rangi |
oh damnit i pushed the wrong tag |
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* rangi |
fixes |
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rangi |
hi Justinb |
| 21:17 |
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Justinb |
hi |
| 21:17 |
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wahanui |
hola, Justinb |
| 21:18 |
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Justinb |
im ok w/ english |
| 21:18 |
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rangi |
wahanui is a bot |
| 21:18 |
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Justinb |
o |
| 21:18 |
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Justinb |
k |
| 21:19 |
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Justinb |
i'm trying to change my liblime koha 1.4.5 system |
| 21:20 |
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rangi |
ahh, sorry this channel is for Koha (from http://koha-community.org) we can't help you with the liblime fork |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #63 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:21 |
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Justinb |
whenever i check out a book out it charges the patron 5.00 |
| 21:21 |
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Justinb |
how do i change that? |
| 21:21 |
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rangi |
we don't know, no one here uses the liblime fork |
| 21:21 |
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Justinb |
dont think it has anything to do w/ the liblime part of it |
| 21:23 |
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Justinb |
darn. You should try liblime. I have never used this program before, and it was quite difficult to install, but i am glad i have it now. since ive never tried the normal koha, i dont know anything about it |
| 21:23 |
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rangi |
no we prefer using actual Koha |
| 21:23 |
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Justinb |
in fact, i couldn't find it on the website! |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
Justinb: what did yo not find? |
| 21:24 |
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Justinb |
here is link: www.koha.org |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
You can download koha from here koha-community.org |
| 21:24 |
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Justinb |
the non-liblime koha |
| 21:24 |
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rangi |
http://www.koha-community.org/ <-- is the real website, the other is solely controlled by liblime and used entirely to advertise their fork |
| 21:24 |
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schuster |
LibLime - back away from the computer... |
| 21:24 |
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Justinb |
oh. |
| 21:24 |
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Justinb |
haha |
| 21:24 |
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schuster |
Start OVER! |
| 21:24 |
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Justinb |
nah |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
when you still can I would give it a thought |
| 21:25 |
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cait |
and it's probably a lot easier to install |
| 21:25 |
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Justinb |
took me three days to install the other one! |
| 21:25 |
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schuster |
I just migrated away from that code back to the true Koha... |
| 21:25 |
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Justinb |
can u believe that? |
| 21:25 |
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rangi |
we can, thats why we don't use it |
| 21:25 |
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Justinb |
thanks, i will try normal koha |
| 21:25 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 21:25 |
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schuster |
Yes... There is no help there for it where here there is.. |
| 21:25 |
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Justinb |
:) |
| 21:25 |
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schuster |
for Koha... |
| 21:26 |
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Justinb |
Question... |
| 21:26 |
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wahanui |
i guess question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
Justinb: and when you run into probloems.. there will always be someone around to help |
| 21:26 |
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Justinb |
yes. |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
which os are you using? |
| 21:26 |
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Justinb |
do u still need Zebra, Yaz, MySQL, and all that other stuff for normal koha? |
| 21:27 |
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Justinb |
I am using Ubuntu |
| 21:27 |
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cait |
yes you do, but there are packages |
| 21:27 |
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cait |
packages? |
| 21:27 |
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wahanui |
well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 21:27 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 21:27 |
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Justinb |
Ubuntu 11.11 |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
I am using ubuntu too, should work nicely |
| 21:28 |
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Justinb |
Sorry, gotta go (11.10) |
| 21:28 |
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Justinb |
thank you for all your help!!!! |
| 21:28 |
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Justinb |
I will try normal koha! |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
cool :) |
| 21:28 |
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Justinb |
bye |
| 21:28 |
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Justinb |
:) |
| 21:28 |
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Justinb |
:P |
| 21:30 |
|
* mtj |
boogles at what a 'liblime 1.4.5' system is... |
| 21:30 |
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wizzyrea |
well we haven't had one of those in a while |
| 21:30 |
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mtj |
amen wiz |
| 21:31 |
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mtj |
... speshly since kc.org is now 'official' :) |
| 21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
| 21:32 |
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* wizzyrea |
is glad we are #2 now |
| 21:32 |
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mtj |
wizzyrea++ |
| 21:33 |
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mtj |
number 1 in google.nz results... with FF now |
| 21:34 |
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cjh |
mtj: do you mean searching for 'koha'? |
| 21:35 |
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mtj |
cjh: yep |
| 21:35 |
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cjh |
for me its not :( |
| 21:35 |
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mtj |
tis for me :) |
| 21:35 |
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cjh |
I thought google changed your results based on what you accessed, I visit kc.org daily and have gone to the bad koha once... |
| 21:37 |
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cait |
why did we get a better ranking so suddenly now? |
| 21:37 |
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mtj |
cjh: google does not 'know' who i am, ie: i dont sign-in to google when searching |
| 21:38 |
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mtj |
cait: coz..many search changes at google lately |
| 21:38 |
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rangi |
http://download.koha-community.org/ |
| 21:39 |
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mtj |
..and its not soooo sudden :) |
| 21:39 |
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rangi |
if anyone has time to download and do a quick check the file looks ok? |
| 21:40 |
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wizzyrea |
lots of search changes, plus I explicitly told google that we were "official" for koha |
| 21:40 |
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wizzyrea |
dk if it had any effect but we were gone, then 3 days later we were #2 |
| 21:41 |
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wizzyrea |
that is to say, I never got an answer from them |
| 21:41 |
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wizzyrea |
teh googlez, I mean. |
| 21:42 |
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mtj |
rangi: files look good to me |
| 21:44 |
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mtj |
and... thank you! :) |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
rangi+ |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
rangi++ even :) |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
will do the release notes now |
| 22:05 |
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rangi |
http://koha-community.org/ |
| 22:06 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
| 22:06 |
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jcamins |
rangi++ |
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jcamins |
Oh, that reminds me. |
| 22:06 |
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jcamins |
I need to push 3.6.x |
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* jcamins |
does so. |
| 22:07 |
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jcamins |
There are too many unreachable loose objects. |
| 22:07 |
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jcamins |
That does not make one feel confident. |
| 22:08 |
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rangi |
hmm? |
| 22:08 |
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jcamins |
That's what git says when I push to git.koha-community.org |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
maybe do a git gc ? |
| 22:09 |
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jcamins |
It said "Run git prune," so I did. |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
push appeared to have worked tho |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
ah :) |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
yep thats part of what gc does |
| 22:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #63: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/63/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* f.demians: Koha 3.8.2 Translation Update |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.8.2 |
| 22:14 |
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rangi |
jcamins: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=refs/heads/3.6.x that right? |
| 22:16 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
| 22:17 |
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jcamins |
I didn't have time to remove zebraqueue_daemon. |
| 22:17 |
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jcamins |
Oh well. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #52 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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bshum |
rangi: I'm around. |
| 22:21 |
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rangi |
bshum: you about? |
| 22:21 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 22:22 |
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rangi |
github.com/rcaputo/bot-pastebot.git |
| 22:22 |
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rangi |
is pretty much all there is to it, clone that |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
and the README is good |
| 22:23 |
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bshum |
Aha, neat. |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
what we have done is poke the template files too, to add the koha logo etc |
| 22:24 |
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rangi |
altho i undid all that the other day by accident :) |
| 22:24 |
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bshum |
Hehe |
| 22:24 |
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rangi |
but yeah it pretty much just works |
| 22:24 |
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bshum |
Very nice. |
| 22:25 |
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bshum |
Do you do alot of maintenance or cleanup of old pastes? Or I imagine it's all reasonably minor anyways. |
| 22:28 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! I managed to install my package signing key into pbuilder! |
| 22:28 |
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rangi |
by default it sticks them as txt files in /tmp |
| 22:28 |
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rangi |
a reboot cleans them all up :) |
| 22:28 |
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rangi |
jcamins: nice! |
| 22:29 |
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* jcamins |
tries the faster dependency resolver. |
| 22:29 |
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bshum |
rangi: Neat, thanks for the pointers! I'm toying with the idea of setting something like that up for our Evergreen channel. |
| 22:30 |
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rangi |
awesome :) |
| 22:30 |
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rangi |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]d-and-statistics/ |
| 22:31 |
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jcamins |
Huh. That actually was faster. Cool! |
| 22:31 |
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rangi |
bshum: are you going to ALA ? |
| 22:31 |
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bshum |
rangi: Fortunately not. |
| 22:31 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 22:31 |
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bshum |
Erm… "un"fortunately? |
| 22:32 |
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rangi |
i think both work :) |
| 22:32 |
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rangi |
its a mixture of both |
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bshum |
Indeed, I don't know how hot it is over there, but I suspect I wouldn't enjoy it. |
| 22:32 |
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jcamins |
Looks like I did pretty well on signoffs. |
| 22:32 |
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jeff |
"i didn't go to ala therefore all i got was all the vendor ala spam in my inbox" |
| 22:32 |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins |
I expect I'll do even better with sign-offs on 3.6.6... |
| 22:34 |
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rangi |
jeff: it seems to be a library conference thing, i get spam from all the conferences |
| 22:34 |
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* jeff |
nods |
| 22:34 |
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jcamins |
I get a ton of spam from non-library conferences too. |
| 22:35 |
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rangi |
i mostly only go to tech and library ones, and the tech ones are floss ones .. |
| 22:35 |
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jcamins |
I get spam from conferences I have never gone to! |
| 22:35 |
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rangi |
ohh, for ones in las vegas? |
| 22:35 |
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jeff |
most library vendors send out conference-related newsletters / etc leading up to a conference, mostly to their entire customer list, sometimes combined with their "has ever asked us about any of our products" lists. |
| 22:36 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 22:36 |
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jeff |
then there are the vendors who get a list of conference attendees and spam it year after year, or send to the entire attendee list from the context of "thanks for visiting our booth at" |
| 22:36 |
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* jeff |
shrugs |
| 22:36 |
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jeff |
mild annoyance, nothing more. :-) |
| 22:37 |
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rangi |
i wonder does it ever work? |
| 22:37 |
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rangi |
jeff: its the ones that do it with a huge cc list that are super special :) |
| 22:49 |
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bshum |
rangi: Off to dinner for now, but thanks for walking me through the basics! |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
no worries |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #52: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/52/ |
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* ian.walls: Bug 7016 Followup: Add new GetItemnumberForBiblio subroutine |
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* gmc: bug 7016 further followup: clarify return of GetItemnumbersForBiblio |
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* veron: Bug 7528 - amount subtracting 1 cent |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7927 - library not showing on subscription full history anymore |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7354: Can't edit local use system preferences |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7016 blocker, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, RESOLVED FIXED, CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7922: Fixing typo in German sample news |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7833 - unique holiday link broken |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7845: Multiple 260s don't display properly in search results |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3337 - RSS link is not correct for searches without results |
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* gaetan.boisson: Bug 7693 - clear screen button misaligned |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7528 critical, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , amount subtracting 1 cent |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7927 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , library not showing on subscription full history anymore |
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* kyle: Bug 7950 - Typo for preference intranetuserjs |
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* mjr: Bug 6267 custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
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* paul.poulain: Bug 7726: explanation and options that were in the wrong order |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7354 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Can't edit local use system preferences |
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* mjr: Bug 1577 - update INSTALL to mention need to translate templates |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3969: Budget search in acquisition does't work (search) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7922 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Fixing typos and improving translations in German sample data |
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* Chris Cormack: Bug 6931 : Only update frameworks for the correct marcflavour |
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* paul.poulain: Bug 3969 follow-up = budget name field is budget_name, not name |
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* robin: Bug 6496 - tidy the display of 710 fields on XSLT |
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* robin: Bug 6496 - correct the order of the author display in the OPAC |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7833 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , unique holiday link broken |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Update 3.6.6 release notes |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7845 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Multiple 260s don't display properly in search results |
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rangi |
kablam! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3337 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , RSS link is not correct |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7693 minor, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Stable , clear screen button misaligned |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7950 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Typo for preference intranetuserjs |
| 23:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7726 trivial, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout has columns in wrong order in sysprefs.sql |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1577 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , installer and language |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3969 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Budget Search Doesn't Work |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6931 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , hardcoded insert incompatible with UNIMARC |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Pushed to Master , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client |
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rangi |
wow i have no recollection of bug 6931 |
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cait |
it was very old |
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cait |
fix to an old updatedatabase |
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rangi |
maybe i write patches when im asleep |
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cait |
maybe |
| 23:36 |
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drojf |
seems like domingo is still searching the kobli git repository :( |
| 23:36 |
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rangi |
hmm? |
| 23:37 |
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rangi |
oh no answer to jareds email? |
| 23:37 |
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drojf |
he announced 1.8 on the main list. jared asked for the repos because the developer links on their site are broken |
| 23:37 |
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rangi |
yeah |
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drojf |
exactly |
| 23:38 |
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rangi |
i found this |
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rangi |
http://developer.berlios.de/projects/kobli/ |
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rangi |
http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/[…]p=kobli;a=summary |
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rangi |
but its old |
| 23:39 |
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rangi |
i did pull their marc update out of the tarball and made it into a patch tho |
| 23:39 |
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rangi |
bug 5858 |
| 23:39 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags |
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drojf |
nice! |
| 23:41 |
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drojf |
still i think it's sad that he can announce on the list and not even answer. not to say anything about taking all things koha and not caring about offering own developments back |
| 23:42 |
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rangi |
yep, hopefully they will come around |
