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00:01 |
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rangi |
@quote get 207 |
00:01 |
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huginn` |
rangi: Quote #207: "< eythian> It's OK, we can implement the RDA support in Perl 6." (added by chrisc at 12:00 AM, May 29, 2012) |
00:01 |
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rangi |
RDA? |
00:01 |
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wahanui |
RDA is a room in a twisty maze of standards |
01:09 |
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01:59 |
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rangi |
heya jransom |
02:03 |
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jransom |
heya Chris |
02:05 |
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02:34 |
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chris_n |
hi paul_p |
02:34 |
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paul_p |
hi chris_n |
02:34 |
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rangi |
go to sleep! |
02:34 |
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paul_p |
(&others) |
02:35 |
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rangi |
:) |
02:35 |
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paul_p |
and it's rangi who says that :D :D |
02:35 |
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rangi |
hehe |
02:35 |
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rangi |
did you see i switched on french and german for bugzilla? |
02:35 |
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paul_p |
nice to have bugzilla in french. |
02:35 |
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rangi |
:) |
02:38 |
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* chris_n |
wonders where sleep is |
02:38 |
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* chris_n |
is busy trying to figure out how to monitor individual client bandwidth usage on a wireless ap |
02:40 |
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rangi |
hmm |
02:40 |
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eythian |
chris_n: one moment |
02:40 |
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eythian |
http://www.kallisti.net.nz/blo[…]oring-on-openwrt/ <-- I did this quite a while ago, but it should still mostly be useful |
02:40 |
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* chris_n |
looks |
02:41 |
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02:41 |
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chris_n |
i was looking at wrtbwmon |
02:42 |
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chris_n |
eythian: I'll give that a whirl, thanks |
02:42 |
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eythian |
cool |
02:43 |
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chris_n |
somebody is being a hog; so I'm tasked with finding out who :-) |
02:44 |
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rangi |
its probably eythian |
02:44 |
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eythian |
I had a flatmate who asked me to find that out. |
02:44 |
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eythian |
It turned out to be her |
02:44 |
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rangi |
heh |
02:44 |
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chris_n |
lol |
02:44 |
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eythian |
not capping her uploads on bittorrent |
02:44 |
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ibeardslee |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S26-UZbxPqM |
02:47 |
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rangi |
speaking of split enz, i have a nice crowded house pinot noir im bringing over for kohacon |
02:54 |
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03:38 |
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paul_p |
does anyone know how to do git commit --amend -s non interactively -ie: without opening the editor- ? |
03:38 |
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paul_p |
adding -m "message" does the trick, but replace the commit message, and I just want to add the signoff |
03:42 |
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rangi |
you can use -C |
03:42 |
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rangi |
eg |
03:42 |
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rangi |
git commit --amend -s -C 81ff5ed221020315c4852b6c17f7967159a86566 |
03:42 |
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rangi |
where the sha is the commit im amending, -C == --reuse-message |
03:42 |
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rangi |
so i could write |
03:43 |
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rangi |
git commit --amend -s --reuse-message=81ff5ed221020315c4852b6c17f7967159a86566 |
03:44 |
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paul_p |
even better = git commit --amend -s --reuse-message=HEAD |
03:44 |
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rangi |
yep, and way of referencing |
03:44 |
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rangi |
any |
03:45 |
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rangi |
tags would work too, anyway way you can reference a commit |
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rangi |
wb bshum |
03:55 |
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bshum |
rangi: Thanks :) |
04:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #32 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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04:24 |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya bag |
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04:30 |
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rangi |
hi cait |
04:31 |
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cait |
hi rangi :) |
04:32 |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya cait, rangi |
04:32 |
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rangi |
hi Amit_Gupta |
04:33 |
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cait |
hi Amit_Gupta |
04:37 |
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paul_p |
yeah !!!!! bug 6473 signed off with a script (hacked version of WWW::Bugzilla to handle our specific statuses) !!!! |
04:37 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Signed Off , Test bug for Git-bz |
04:37 |
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rangi |
cool |
04:37 |
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rangi |
well done paul |
04:37 |
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* paul_p |
should be able to update sandbox providing signoff feature today ! |
04:38 |
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cait |
paul_p: why are you awake? :) |
04:38 |
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paul_p |
for now, it's time for breakfast ! |
04:38 |
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paul_p |
cait because i'm no sleeping anymore :D |
04:38 |
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cait |
that sounds like a good idea :) |
04:39 |
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paul_p |
see you later |
04:39 |
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cait |
later :) |
04:39 |
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rangi |
cya |
04:40 |
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rangi |
http://ranginui.github.com/git-achievements/ <-- it seems git log is by far my most used git command |
04:56 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #32: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/32/ |
04:56 |
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jenkins_koha |
oleonard: Bug 8122 - Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message |
04:56 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8122 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message |
04:56 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #33 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
05:19 |
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05:21 |
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Oak |
\oia ora |
05:21 |
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Oak |
*sigh* |
05:21 |
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Oak |
\o |
05:22 |
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Oak |
Guten morgen cait |
05:22 |
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cait |
hi Oak :) |
05:22 |
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Oak |
:) |
05:27 |
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* eythian |
goes to the pub for some "I'm going to Europe and it'll be summer there ha ha!" drinks with folks. |
05:28 |
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Oak |
have fun eythian |
05:28 |
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Oak |
sorry, Mr Robin |
05:30 |
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cait |
have fun eythian :) |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #33: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/33/ |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 8122 - Followup Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* colin.campbell: Bug 8150 [SIGNED-OFF] Remove obsoleted navigation bar in circ history |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* matthias.meusburger: Bug 6858: Bug fixing, fix some errors with the staticfines.pl script |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* mtj: Bug 8145 - [SIGNED-OFF] opac-tags.pl fails when DEBUG is set |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 8144 - 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7127 - Templates must be valid XHTML |
05:49 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8122 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message |
05:49 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8150 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Patron circulation history has a fossil navagation bar |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright statements |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 Fixing FSF statements |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding missing license statement |
05:49 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6858 normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Stable , Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers for acqui/ |
05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding copyright headers and fixing FSF addresses |
05:49 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8145 major, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Stable , opac-tags.pl fails when DEBUG is set |
05:49 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8144 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue |
05:49 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Templates must be valid XHTML |
05:49 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date |
05:50 |
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Oak |
wizzyrea, around? |
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francharb |
hi |
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julian_m |
hi |
06:48 |
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wahanui |
salut, julian_m |
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reiveune |
hello |
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gaetan_B |
hello :) |
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rangi |
evening |
07:37 |
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Oak |
evening rangi |
07:52 |
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magnuse |
Oak |
07:52 |
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Oak |
magnuse |
07:53 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
07:53 |
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magnuse |
and kia ora #koha |
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08:16 |
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kf |
hi #koha |
08:17 |
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magnuse |
kia ora kf! |
08:17 |
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kf |
hi magnuse :) |
08:18 |
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rangi |
hi kf |
08:19 |
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kf |
hi rangi |
08:21 |
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Oak |
wb kf |
08:25 |
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kf |
paul_p: still around? |
08:26 |
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paul_p |
kf yep |
08:26 |
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kf |
there was a hint on the wiki on how to use -m to only add the [SIGNED-OFF] part |
08:26 |
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kf |
reading the logs right now :) |
08:26 |
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kf |
want me to find it? |
08:26 |
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paul_p |
kf = busily working on improvement to sandboxes (to add the signoff option direct from URL) |
08:26 |
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kf |
it was a snippet gmcharlt came up with I think |
08:26 |
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kf |
does not open the editor |
08:26 |
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paul_p |
I don't remember what it was |
08:27 |
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kf |
I will look it up if its still interesting |
08:27 |
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paul_p |
(but could be useful for me ! |
08:27 |
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paul_p |
yes it is ! |
08:27 |
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kf |
ah |
08:27 |
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kf |
it's for git format-patch - but perhaps there is a similar option for commit? |
08:27 |
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kf |
git format-patch -s --subject-prefix='PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF' origin/master |
08:28 |
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kf |
I remembered it wrong |
08:29 |
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rangi |
if you read the rest of the logs, you'll see we figured it out kf |
08:30 |
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kf |
oh, that's what I was asking... if it's still interesting... |
08:30 |
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slef |
blurgh... morning from half way to Edinburgh :) |
08:30 |
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kf |
morning slef |
08:31 |
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magnuse |
kia ora slef |
08:31 |
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rangi |
hi slef |
08:32 |
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kf |
slef: sooooon! |
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slef |
kf: nyaaaaaaaaawgh :) |
08:36 |
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kf |
stop growling at me and back to work! :P |
08:41 |
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magnuse |
slef: mind if i take a stab at bug 737? |
08:41 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=737 enhancement, P2, ---, mjr, NEW , Map of library in search system |
08:50 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
08:50 |
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huginn` |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on May 29, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
08:55 |
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slef |
magnuse: sure. Not 100% why I have that but I don't have a sponsor for it right now and other bugs to puzzle over. |
08:56 |
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magnuse |
slef: cool, i'll give it a try then |
08:56 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
08:56 |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
08:57 |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
08:57 |
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magnuse |
brrr... |
08:57 |
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huginn` |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.2°C (10:55 AM CEST on May 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
08:57 |
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kf |
mmh :) |
08:57 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
08:57 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
08:57 |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 22.0°C (10:30 AM CEST on May 29, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
08:57 |
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magnuse |
nice |
08:59 |
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slef |
magnuse: assign it to you, leave me as cc? |
08:59 |
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slef |
@wunder edi |
08:59 |
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huginn` |
slef: The current temperature in Mid Kinleith, Currie, United Kingdom is 11.0°C (9:58 AM BST on May 29, 2012). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
08:59 |
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slef |
@wunder edinburgh |
08:59 |
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huginn` |
slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
08:59 |
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slef |
@wunder edinburgh, United Kingdom |
08:59 |
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huginn` |
slef: The current temperature in Edinburgh, United Kingdom is 11.3°C (9:59 AM BST on May 29, 2012). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
09:00 |
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slef |
@wunder egyh |
09:00 |
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magnuse |
slef: sure thang! |
09:00 |
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huginn` |
slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
09:00 |
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slef |
@wunder dersingham |
09:00 |
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huginn` |
slef: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Dersingham UK, Sculthorpe, United Kingdom is 14.4°C (9:33 AM BST on May 29, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
09:00 |
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kf |
@wunder EDI |
09:00 |
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huginn` |
kf: The current temperature in Mid Kinleith, Currie, United Kingdom is 11.0°C (10:00 AM BST on May 29, 2012). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
09:00 |
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magnuse |
ooh, EDI has a temperature? ;-) |
09:02 |
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kf |
just like boo has |
09:05 |
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slef |
I think that's airport rather than city |
09:06 |
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magnuse |
probably |
09:06 |
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slef |
"Edinburgh, United Kingdom" is the city one... but not often too different |
09:08 |
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magnuse |
ooh: http://act.yapc.eu/mtmh2012/ "Oslo Perl Mongers invites you to the Moving to Moose double-hackathon near Stavanger, Norway!" |
09:14 |
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magnuse |
@later tell eythian seen http://act.yapc.eu/mtmh2012/ ? |
09:14 |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
09:40 |
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slef |
rangi: could you ask andrewc for a high-res shot, how long would it take? I think we may have we run out of time :-/ |
09:41 |
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rangi |
ahh, im not sure he would even have the original anymore |
09:41 |
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rangi |
could remake it with gource of course |
09:42 |
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rangi |
but yeah, might be out of time i think |
09:57 |
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slef |
oh well something for next time |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya jwagner |
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jwagner |
hi Amit_Gupta |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya paul |
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samuel |
hi everybody :-) |
11:52 |
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samuel |
i've a problem with opac, since i've upgraded koha for 3.8. I can't access (no message error) but no problem for the intranet |
11:52 |
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jcamins |
samuel: how did you install Koha? |
11:55 |
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jcamins |
dpavlin_away: around? |
11:56 |
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samuel |
as we are in test, we use the deb package. So, when i've done the upgrade, i've this problem. |
11:57 |
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jcamins |
samuel: does anything at all show up when you try to access the OPAC? |
11:57 |
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samuel |
nothing at all |
11:58 |
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jcamins |
Does the web browser say it can't connect? |
11:59 |
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samuel |
"It works! This is the default web page for this server. The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.", strange thing |
11:59 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
11:59 |
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jcamins |
Run: sudo a2dissite default |
11:59 |
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jcamins |
Then run: sudo apache2ctl restart |
12:00 |
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samuel |
nothing change |
12:01 |
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jcamins |
Really? |
12:01 |
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jcamins |
That means it's a DNS issue. |
12:04 |
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jcamins |
Run: ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
12:04 |
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samuel |
koha is enabled :-) |
12:04 |
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jcamins |
Is there anything else? |
12:05 |
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samuel |
no |
12:05 |
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jcamins |
Run: sudo apache2ctl restart |
12:05 |
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jcamins |
(again) |
12:06 |
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samuel |
nothing, problem of redirection |
12:06 |
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jcamins |
If you're still getting the default site, that means that your DNS is wrong. |
12:12 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: was that all automatic? |
12:12 |
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jcamins |
paul_p++ |
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paul_p |
jcamins ? |
12:12 |
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wahanui |
well, jcamins is an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or an authorities expert |
12:12 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: the 8138 test |
12:12 |
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oleonard |
Hi everyone |
12:12 |
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paul_p |
jcamins yes, it is |
12:13 |
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paul_p |
http://pro.test1.biblibre.com/[…]n/koha/sandbox.pl |
12:13 |
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paul_p |
jcamins = http://pro.test1.biblibre.com/[…]n/koha/sandbox.pl |
12:13 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
12:13 |
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jcamins |
That's *awesome*! |
12:15 |
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paul_p |
jcamins = patch pushed in a few minuts to contribs repo, will let you know |
12:15 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
12:18 |
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oleonard |
Thanks to all those who did so much work yesterday while I was goofing off |
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kf |
oleonard: you deserved goofing off :) |
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oleonard |
Actually yesterday was all busy with family stuff, so today I'm hoping for some nice rest at work ;) |
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kf |
paul_p: you are spamming me :) |
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paul_p |
kf ??? |
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wahanui |
kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
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kf |
the 8138 |
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kf |
but I don't mind |
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paul_p |
yikes !!! |
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paul_p |
my cron don't remove the file !!! |
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kf |
ah, I wondered |
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kf |
because they were all so close together |
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kf |
in time |
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chris_n |
paul_p: would it be desirable to add nytprof to the sandboxes? |
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paul_p |
chris_n why could this be done ? what are you thinking of ? |
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paul_p |
s/of/about/ maybe ;-) |
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chris_n |
it would allow checking performance especially of larger changes |
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chris_n |
also of the proposed caching changes, search changes, etc. |
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chris_n |
just a thought |
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jcamins |
chris_n: enjoying NYTProf? |
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jcamins |
Oh, speaking of NYTProf, you know what I learned yesterday? |
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jcamins |
I learned that "use ZOOM" requires 700ms on *every single page*. |
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chris_n |
yes... just not enjoying the brick wall between me and the fix to my problem |
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chris_n |
ouch! |
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chris_n |
!ZOOM |
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jcamins |
Whether we're doing any searching or not. |
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chris_n |
not good |
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kf |
ouch |
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kf |
indeed |
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chris_n |
caching has not improved performance on this machine a bit |
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chris_n |
sadly |
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kf |
:( |
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jcamins |
chris_n: odd. I saw huge improvements even on my development VM. |
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chris_n |
I'm tempted to wipe it clean and start again |
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jcamins |
You can't upgrade the hardware? |
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chris_n |
not easily |
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jcamins |
'Cause that's probably what's needed. |
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chris_n |
probably so... things are superfast on my quad-core dev box |
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chris_n |
maybe I should make a donation to the library ;-) |
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jcamins |
Also, Plack is kind of incredible. |
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* jcamins |
was not expecting it to make such a noticeable difference. |
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jcamins |
chris_n: you could just take an old desktop... it'd be faster than your current server. |
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* chris_n |
reruns ntyprof with caching off |
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paul_p |
Plack is just what I was expected, I just regret to have waiting so long to organize something around it ! |
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kf |
paul_p: It's hard to get bigger community projects organized |
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kf |
paul_p: are you running plack in production already? |
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paul_p |
kf = nope for plack (except OPAC for Lyon 3) |
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paul_p |
kf = agreed for community organized being hard ;-) |
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kf |
but overall I think we do pretty good :) |
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kf |
lots of things moving |
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Oak |
we do :) |
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* jcamins |
would run it in production if 3.6.x was Plack-friendly. |
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Oak |
but because of you guys. |
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kf |
oleonard++ # for working on jquery ui :) |
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jcamins |
Best way to shake out problems is have lots of people shaking. :) |
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Oak |
oleonard++ |
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Oak |
jcamins++ |
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Oak |
kf++ |
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* oleonard |
didn't know PTFS-Europe supported Evergreen too: http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=16882 |
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Oak |
oleonard, what is the best way to add a div box on right column of opac under the login box? i have added it by modifying the template but that i think is not a good way? |
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oleonard |
Implement Bug 3708? :) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Add another customizable region to the OPAC: right sidebar |
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oleonard |
Oak: Otherwise your only choice is to use jQuery |
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Oak |
hmm :) |
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Oak |
and i don't know jQuery :( |
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* chris_n |
grips about bulky code |
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oleonard |
Oak did you check the jQuery library on the wiki for existing solutions? |
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Oak |
no. |
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oleonard |
jquery library? |
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wahanui |
jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
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* Oak |
runs to the wiki |
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oleonard |
Let me know if you don't see something there |
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Oak |
wow |
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Oak |
thank you! |
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Oak |
will do. |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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Oak |
hello quiet wizzyrea |
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kf |
hi sekjal |
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sekjal |
hi, kf |
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sekjal |
anyone in channel know anything about Kurogo? (open source 'mobile optimized middleware') |
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kf |
no idea |
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wizzyrea |
whoa |
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* wizzyrea |
will have to look up kurogo |
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* Oak |
looking http://kurogo.org/examples/ |
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sekjal |
looks like one of the big companies involved, Modo Labs, has produced a Library module |
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sekjal |
unfortunately, I have not been able to find the source code for it (only for Kurogo's core) |
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paul_p |
jcamins = patch pushed on contribs/global for online signoff |
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jcamins |
paul_p++ |
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Oak |
paul_p++ |
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jcamins |
sekjal: I came across another very cool mobile development thing. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: isn't that useful? :) |
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jcamins |
PhoneGap. |
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jcamins |
Sometimes I even remember the name of the software I'm telling people about! :) |
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sekjal |
jcamins: PhoneGap is awesome |
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sekjal |
love the idea |
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sekjal |
haven't had occasion to use it just yet... |
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jcamins |
Nor have I, but I think there's a library in the NYC metropolitan area that did a library app with it. |
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sekjal |
I think it would be the way to go for a mobile staff client, should we ever want to go that direction |
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sekjal |
write it in HTML5/CSS/Javascript, then compile for whatever platform your running |
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jcamins |
Agreed. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: have you tried plack with Koha at all? |
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jcamins |
Seems like something you might enjoy playing with. :) |
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sekjal |
jcamins: I haven't yet... been doing lots of yardwork and house stuff with my free time lately |
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sekjal |
but I do mean to run it on my local Koha instance, once I populate it |
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jcamins |
I tried installing Plack last night. |
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jcamins |
It's really quite cool. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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* chris_n |
wonders why folks use 3rd party barcode generators |
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chris_n |
especially for something as straightforward as creating scan-sheets |
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oleonard |
What do you mean chris_n? |
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chris_n |
I'm referring to the thread on the user's list regarding class-sorted patron scan sheets |
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chris_n |
its pretty simple to do with the patron card creator |
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chris_n |
but perhaps I'm missing some key point in the discussion :) |
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jcamins |
chris_n: most likely the key point is that the librarians were never shown the patron card creator. |
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jcamins |
Might be worth pointing out its existence. |
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chris_n |
I did |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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jcamins |
Okay. |
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jcamins |
Missed that. |
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jcamins |
Sorry. |
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kf |
chris_n: perhaps showing an example would work |
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kf |
like, click here - this is a scansheet created with Koha! |
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slef |
kf: just lost a speaker. OK if I invite kyleh to replace? |
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chris_n |
I could to that, but it would be pretty boring after redacting names, etc... |
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kf |
I didn't knwo we had an abstract from kyle |
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jcamins |
slef: aww. Which talk? |
15:12 |
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kf |
yes, which one? |
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wahanui |
i guess which one is it |
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slef |
kf: we don't yet. He was a stand-by. |
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slef |
jcamins: kf: The Phillipines one. |
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kf |
oh, that's sad |
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jcamins |
That's too bad. |
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kf |
did they give a reason? |
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jcamins |
What will he be talking about? |
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slef |
kf: yes and I don't think it's fair to share but it is completely unavoidable. |
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slef |
jcamins: kyleh ? I think he's open to requests... |
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slef |
The other option is to reinstate paul_p's other talk but I think we felt that overlapped with other talks already on there and paul_p is doing a double or triple duty already |
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slef |
I lean towards kyleh but which would you prefer? |
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paul_p |
triple duty ? mmm... /me thought I had a tiny talk on presenting sandboxes, and a full talk |
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kf |
yep, Ithink you got "what is new" and the sandboxes |
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kf |
slef: not sure what I prefer - becasue don't know what kyle will be talkign about :) |
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slef |
nothing for paul_p at hackfest? |
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kf |
but I think more different people might be good |
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kf |
slef: nope, onthing at hackfest |
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kf |
but I think it's ok to not have so many presentations there |
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slef |
oh my brain! |
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wahanui |
slef, your brain is asleep :-( I don't remember seeing that error. Seems like the sort of thing that would be on the web. |
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kf |
more time for people to practice communication skills :) |
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paul_p |
slef = well, nothing or manything ! I think it will be an "unconference" |
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jcamins |
Seems kind of hard to make any sort of decision without some idea of what the talks are. |
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slef |
do we want to suggest any topic to kyleh ? |
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paul_p |
for the hackfest, we (BibLibre) have 10 topics to speak of ! |
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paul_p |
well, not 10, more 50 ;-) |
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slef |
anything not being covered in the programme that a library tech would have insight into? |
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kf |
paul_p: that's a lot! :) |
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kf |
paul_p: do you need any additional equipment? like flipchart paper or something? |
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paul_p |
I like flipchart paper if we can have one. |
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paul_p |
kf = do we have video-projectors ? |
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paul_p |
how many ? |
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paul_p |
BibLibre can come with one if it can be usefull |
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slef |
one video projector AFAIK... if you want more, it would be very useful |
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slef |
might be useful as a standby anyway... not sure what is in edinburgh already |
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jcamins |
slef: I think we're already heavy enough on "development for librarians." |
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jcamins |
Perhaps he could talk about offline circ? I think he's done a lot of work with that? |
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jcamins |
That's of interest to libraries. |
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kyleh |
slef: I'm open to talking about anything |
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slef |
jcamins: great idea! |
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slef |
kyleh: hello :) |
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paul_p |
slef = how many ppl registered for the conf ? for the hackfest ? |
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kyleh |
I can certainly talk about offline circ |
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paul_p |
kyleh = do you have tried our KOCT FF module ? |
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kyleh |
paul_p: no I have not, but I can familiarize myself with it. |
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kf |
kyleh: it would be cool if you could show both |
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paul_p |
kyleh = who comes from bywater ? |
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kf |
kyleh: I think both have advantages - the stnadalone tool and the firefox |
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kyleh |
kf: agreed. It would be a dis-service to not present both. |
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slef |
paul_p: 70 combined at the moment. I need to split them today but have not yet. |
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kf |
slef: possible to get paper? I was wondering for the bug squash too, sometimes nice to have something visible where people can put notes on |
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paul_p |
about KohaCon13, did we made some progress ? we've 2 candidates if I'm not mistaking. Is there a plan for voting ? (we used to announce KohaConN+1 at the end of KohaConN) |
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kf |
slef: I still have to think about the bug squash a bit - perhaps coming up with something :) |
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kf |
paul_p: I think even 3 candidates - in the wiki now |
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kf |
ok, have to run - bbl :) |
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oleonard |
addbooks.pl requires edit_catalogue permission, but it should also be accessible to those with edit_items permission |
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oleonard |
Is it possible to make that work? |
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oleonard |
flagsrequired => edit_catalogue || edit_items? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: yes. |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: I'm not sure you want to do that |
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oleonard |
Why wizzyrea ? |
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wizzyrea |
because you might have a situation wher eyou wanted people to be able to edit the record, but not the associated items |
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wizzyrea |
i'll grant you it's probably a 123 |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: I think we're on the same page. I'm talking about addbooks.pl not addbiblio.pl |
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oleonard |
addbooks.pl = cataloging home page |
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wizzyrea |
oh sorry, I read that wrong |
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wizzyrea |
never mind. |
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wizzyrea |
>.< |
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oleonard |
So jcamins, uh... How to do that? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: do what? |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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jcamins |
Just the way you suggested. |
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jcamins |
Wait, no, let me check. |
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jcamins |
I think it might be a single | rather than || |
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jcamins |
flagsrequired => { edit_catalogue => '*' } |
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jcamins |
I think? |
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oleonard |
Thanks jcamins, turns out it's flagsrequired => { editcatalogue => '*' } |
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jcamins |
I was close. |
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oleonard |
Hm... Is there any place for a user with "fast_cataloging" permission on the cataloging home page? |
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oleonard |
So " editcatalogue => '*'" gives users with Fast cataloging permission access to addbooks.pl where they can't do anything but see what's in the catalog. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: so, they'll be a bit bored. |
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oleonard |
Okay, so whatever. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: that's my feeling. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: how do we do tabs in Koha? |
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jcamins |
Let me rephrase that. |
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jcamins |
How *should* we be doing tabs in Koha? |
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oleonard |
We should be using the latest version of jQueryUI to do javascript-driven tabs. I'm working on a patch for that right now. |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
I will sign off and then base my work on it. |
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oleonard |
Right now we use an older version of the tabs plugin from before it was rolled into jQueryUI |
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jcamins |
I'll sign off on your autocomplete thing while we're at it. |
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oleonard |
the differences in syntax are really minor |
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jcamins |
oleonard: what's the bug number? |
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Oak |
hmm. a 404 here http://koha-community.org/get-involved/ |
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jcamins |
(of teh one you just did) |
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jcamins |
My connection is saturated so browsing is an exercise in frustration. |
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oleonard |
Bug 7747 already has a signoff |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI |
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jcamins |
Ah, excellent. |
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jcamins |
That's what I meant. |
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jcamins |
Guess I don't have to. |
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jcamins |
git qa 8161 |
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jcamins |
Sorry. |
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jcamins |
yui-- |
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Oak |
yui-- |
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drojf |
good evening |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I'm thinking about exporting authorities. |
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jcamins |
I have a user interface question for you. |
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oleonard |
You should tabify a sprited widget-table with some ajax |
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jcamins |
My instinct is that since most of the options on tools/export.pl have nothing to do with authorities, it makes more sense to have separate tabs for exporting bibs and auths. |
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jcamins |
Does that make sense? |
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oleonard |
Are the two different kinds of operations similar enough that the should be on the same page? The other option would be to just have two pages. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I think it does make sense to have one page, because it's an "export all your data" page. |
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jcamins |
I think tools/export.pl makes sense as the place to go to export *all* your data. |
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jcamins |
(not that there's any other data at the moment, but one day there will be nifty semantic triple-stored data:) |
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oleonard |
So the next question is whether both functions should be on the same page and tabbed with jquery or whether the tabs should be cosmetic and each links to a separate page (like the tabs for members/pay.pl, members/maninvoice.pl etc) |
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oleonard |
...if that makes any sense |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
That's a good question. |
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cait |
I think I like the idea |
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cait |
having a tabbed side navigation like we have on members perhaps |
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jcamins |
cait: which idea? |
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cait |
and later being able to export other data |
17:46 |
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jcamins |
No, I can't do tabbed side navigation. |
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cait |
like patron information |
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jcamins |
We use the side for the tools. |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
right |
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cait |
then top tabbed navigation like oleonard suggested i think? |
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cait |
although I think some of the tools have their own navigation, I think the printing module have toolbars, but that't not really working here |
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cait |
ok, not sure I ammaking sense - blame accounting |
17:48 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I like the top tabs idea. |
17:48 |
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jcamins |
That's why I asked about it. :) |
17:49 |
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jcamins |
What I'm not sure about is whether they should be different files. |
17:49 |
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oleonard |
There's also the option of loading the content of the second tab via AJAX rather than actually moving to the other page |
17:50 |
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oleonard |
I don't think we do that anywhere yet in Koha |
17:50 |
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cait |
bit worried about accessibility |
17:52 |
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jcamins |
It seems to me that having it all one one page using jQuery to produce the tabs would be most amenable to a no-Javascript environment. |
17:52 |
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jcamins |
If Javascript is disabled, you just have to scrolld own more for future tabs. |
17:52 |
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oleonard |
The staff client requires JavaScript. |
17:53 |
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jcamins |
I guess that's not such a concern then. |
17:53 |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
17:53 |
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jcamins |
Amazon redid the AWS console. |
17:53 |
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cait |
oleonard: I think javascript is not all bad as some screenreaders can deal with it |
17:56 |
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cait |
only not sure when and where it's ok |
17:56 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: so, we return to the original question. How should I do this? |
17:57 |
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jcamins |
You have the deciding vote. |
17:57 |
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oleonard |
If it doesn't make the template and script too difficult to maintain I don't have a problem with doing it all on one page |
17:58 |
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wajasu |
i'm using a sandbox against master. i am trying to add a biblio/item using the z39.50 search to find a record with an author with a diacritic (i.e. Jürgen). The results show no author in the x3950 search results. (Because author is in 700 fields I guess). Do I need to change a sys preference to get the authority imported? |
17:58 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: it would just make both longer. |
17:58 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: you can't import authorities over Z39.50. |
17:59 |
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wajasu |
ok. |
18:14 |
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jcamins |
Remember how a few weeks ago we had someone who had used koha-restore to migrate their database and ended up with a non-working system? |
18:14 |
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jcamins |
Looks like a bug in koha-restore. |
18:14 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: just glanced over the Dept. of Homeland Security's recently released list of keywords they monitor online. "authorities" is one |
18:15 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: woohoo! |
18:15 |
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jcamins |
What's that song from Anything Goes? |
18:16 |
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jcamins |
Ah, Public Enemy Number One. :) |
18:17 |
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sekjal |
pork, plot, ice, crest and enriched are also all on there |
18:17 |
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cait |
ice? |
18:17 |
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jcamins |
Odd... I don't see any reason why koha-restore doesn't work. |
18:18 |
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sekjal |
cait: yes, there are some very, very generic words on there. I really hope they aren't actually filtering anything against it |
18:18 |
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cait |
yeah |
18:23 |
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wajasu |
i just edited 100a of the biblio to get an author with a diacritc Jürgen. printed my label, and got JÃ1â„4rgen. Now I will perform this process to fix 1) create new bug report. create a patch, test it locally, attach it to the bug report, test it in a sandbox, let someone else sign off (unless i can), let qa/rel mgr do their push/etc. Hope for the next release. |
18:24 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: you can't sign off on your own patch. |
18:24 |
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wajasu |
ok. makes sense |
18:24 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: how did you fix your problem? |
18:27 |
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wajasu |
i had done a patch last year so diacritcs would show. http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=5713 but Katrin tested and said it didn't help. I thought my dev environment was at fault, so now that the latest release is out on squeeze, I thought I'd give it another try. |
18:28 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
18:29 |
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wajasu |
i just added a utf8::downgrade($line) in the label printing pdf code and they started showing up for me. I wanted to get some else to try, so I don't have to make the fix with each new release. |
18:30 |
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Oak |
night guys |
18:32 |
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wajasu |
It would be nice if I could have specified the bugzilla id=5713 with the sandbox. Then I could have tried it with sandbox and not create a new bug. I think if I create a new bug it will be easier for someone else to test/sign off. |
18:33 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: but if there isn't an appropriate bug, no one will look at it to sign off. |
18:33 |
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jcamins |
So better to create a new bug. |
18:39 |
|
* chris_n |
finally got a clear direction to move on his koha server |
18:39 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: oh? |
18:40 |
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chris_n |
the poor exhausted thing finally expired |
18:40 |
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chris_n |
so now I'll get new hardware ;-) |
18:40 |
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wajasu |
i like the sandbox. it could be made even better. a) create kvm-based image of master from git, b) apply patch (or not) OR allow ssh into kvm environment for fix to code c) test d) use a new sandbox-patch link/button to create a bug report/patch, attach it to report,, mail to list etc. Then alot of quick fixes can be done with. |
18:40 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: if you're using packages, be aware that koha-restore is currently broken, at least for moving an installation from one server to a different one. |
18:40 |
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* chris_n |
stubbornly uses git :) |
18:41 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: well, it's _your_ time. |
18:41 |
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jcamins |
:P |
18:44 |
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sekjal |
git++ |
18:45 |
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cait |
wajasu: I think the sandboxes are mainly intended to be used for testers with only basic technical knowledge |
18:45 |
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cait |
wajasu: for developing a local installation might be better, you can easily have one in a vm on your local desktop |
18:58 |
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wajasu |
ok. |
19:06 |
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oleonard |
If I'm changing the contents of a .pref file there's no second step, right? No more changing the database or anything like that? |
19:06 |
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cait |
hm, should be ok I think |
19:06 |
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cait |
depending on the change |
19:06 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: that's correct. |
19:09 |
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chris_n |
oleonard: assuming "change" is != "add" |
19:09 |
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oleonard |
Right, modifying an existing pref description (Bug 8163) |
19:09 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8163 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Click to populate XSLT preferences with "default" or empty values |
19:14 |
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cait |
oleonard: safe :) |
19:17 |
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chris_n |
if you have a little extra cash lying around: http://tinyurl.com/c39o4ek |
19:18 |
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jcamins |
Wait, there are anonymous accounts by default in MySQL 5.5?!?!? |
19:18 |
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oleonard |
Oh man I spent my last $2,000,000 on hot dogs and chips for the picnic yesterday |
19:18 |
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chris_n |
hehe |
19:19 |
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oleonard |
And by the way if anyone wants to come by for hot dogs and chips I've got a few left over. |
19:22 |
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jcamins |
mysql5.5-- |
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sekjal |
jcamins: ack, that's terrible! |
19:38 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: anonymous logins, and '%' no longer matches localhost. |
19:41 |
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sekjal |
hmmm, now I want to get multi-database support even moreso |
19:41 |
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magnuse |
time to move to mariadb? |
19:42 |
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chris_n |
oracle-- |
19:42 |
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sekjal |
I think we could write a script to list out all the SQL in Koha, and then check it for cross-database compatibility |
19:43 |
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chris_n |
that's probably true for the most part |
19:43 |
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chris_n |
some of it is built on the fly, but most is hard code |
19:44 |
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jcamins |
Not sure MariaDB will be any different. |
19:44 |
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chris_n |
really? |
19:44 |
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cait |
sekjal: I think mbalmer did go through the sql i most parts and some it is not easy to be resolved |
19:45 |
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cait |
sekjal: not sure how to start work on an abstraction layer - it sounds hard |
19:45 |
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sekjal |
perhaps a start: http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/d[…].html#sql-crossdb |
19:45 |
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cait |
could we do a mix? get it started and change part by part or is it a all in one change? |
19:45 |
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jcamins |
cait: the trick is to focus on the big picture rather than worrying about backticks. |
19:45 |
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cait |
jcamins: you don't have to tell me :) |
19:45 |
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jcamins |
cait: I know. :) |
19:46 |
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sekjal |
right, we need to identify the problematic patterns, and which can be replaced, and which will require humans to rewrite |
19:47 |
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mbalmer |
we should switch to PostgreSQL, indeed. sync/async replication and much more.. |
19:47 |
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chris_n |
sekjal: bz does have some good cross db dox |
19:47 |
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sekjal |
for example, I think we *might* be able to replace IFNULL usage with COALESCE in a programmatic way |
19:48 |
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mbalmer |
PostgreSQL is so much advanced over MySQL... |
19:48 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: when Koha is running smoothly on Postgres, I will surely try it and see if it makes a difference for my users. :) |
19:48 |
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oleonard |
mbalmer: That's not the point |
19:49 |
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oleonard |
mbalmer: The point is to make Koha db-independent |
19:49 |
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cait |
mbalmer: we have 2000 librares actually using Koha now - you can't force all those to switch database |
19:49 |
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mbalmer |
no. koha should choose the right DB. |
19:50 |
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cait |
mbalmer: it might happen that one will not be used over time, but that time will show |
19:50 |
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rangi |
More like 4000 |
19:50 |
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oleonard |
mbalmer: There's no right DB |
19:50 |
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cait |
right :) |
19:50 |
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sekjal |
mbalmer: disagree. the library should choose the DB that's right for them |
19:50 |
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sekjal |
Koha should allow that |
19:50 |
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mbalmer |
db independence means using the least common denominator etc. |
19:50 |
|
* chris_n |
tries in vain to drop the bag of skittles |
19:50 |
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* cait |
goes to look up skittles |
19:50 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: put down the skittles and nobody gets hurt. |
19:51 |
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chris_n |
hehe |
19:51 |
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chris_n |
cait: a candy..www.skittles.com |
19:51 |
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cait |
a candy.. and I don't know it? |
19:51 |
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oleonard |
It's okay cait, it's a terrible candy :P |
19:51 |
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chris_n |
corn syrup and citric acid... mostly |
19:52 |
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chris_n |
oh yes.. and hydrogenated palm kernel oil |
19:52 |
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mbalmer |
we should make a decision to run on PostgreSQL and use the advanced features PostgreSQL has to offer. Notihing less. |
19:52 |
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chris_n |
real healthfood |
19:52 |
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oleonard |
mbalmer: That's not how this community works |
19:52 |
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rangi |
Ohh I could Godwin this whole discussion right now |
19:52 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: you may make that decision. _I_ will make the decision that works for me. Then we can both be happy. |
19:54 |
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* chris_n |
looks around for a billy goat |
19:55 |
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rangi |
Heh |
19:56 |
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mtj |
nice -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law |
19:56 |
|
mtj |
and, morning #koha... |
19:56 |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
19:56 |
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wahanui |
morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
19:57 |
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* chris_n |
's cat gets fresh goat milk each morning |
19:57 |
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chris_n |
so mornings are good around here |
19:58 |
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* jcamins |
's cat would like some fresh goat milk now, please. |
19:58 |
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rangi |
Gruff milk? |
19:58 |
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chris_n |
lol |
19:58 |
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jcamins |
Also, he's ready for some currying if I don't mind. |
19:59 |
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* chris_n |
hands off a quart to jcamins' cat |
20:00 |
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chris_n |
wow: "inappropriate hyperbolic comparisons" |
20:00 |
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chris_n |
that's some lingo |
20:00 |
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* sekjal |
's cats woke him up at 2am this morning as they had a very vocal fight about.... something |
20:03 |
|
* magnuse |
puts a stack of freshly made low carb waffles in the middle of #koha, then wanders off to devour the rest of 'em |
20:03 |
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cait |
low carb waffles |
20:03 |
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cait |
he could have left with an explanation about that... |
20:04 |
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oleonard |
cait: You put a waffle on a plate, and then throw away the waffle. Then you smell the plate and wish you had a waffle. |
20:04 |
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jcamins |
lol |
20:04 |
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cait |
lol |
20:05 |
|
magnus_waffles |
lol |
20:05 |
|
magnus_waffles |
it's made with almond flour and lots of eggs |
20:05 |
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magnus_waffles |
and replacement sugar |
20:05 |
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cait |
oh yum |
20:05 |
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chris_n |
fresh milk and waffles |
20:05 |
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chris_n |
yum yum |
20:06 |
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magnus_waffles |
this, in fact: http://sukrin.org/sukrin/about/ |
20:08 |
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20:12 |
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rangi |
My stop |
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20:14 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm the quick slip doesn't seem to print the issues anymore |
20:14 |
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cait |
yep it has been reported |
20:15 |
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cait |
from melia earlier tonight and I tihnk there is another bug in bugzilla somewhere |
20:15 |
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* wizzyrea |
wonders wtf happened. :( |
20:15 |
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melia |
ah ok. I couldn't find another bug, so I just reopened that same one. |
20:15 |
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cait |
hm |
20:15 |
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cait |
maybe bug 8129? |
20:15 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8129 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , quick slips issuing does not work |
20:16 |
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cait |
date comparisons - so maybe a side effect of hourly? |
20:16 |
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wizzyrea |
oh good point |
20:16 |
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cait |
melia's is on bug 7001 |
20:16 |
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* wizzyrea |
knows it worked when she tested 7001 |
20:16 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, In Discussion , User Configurable Slips |
20:18 |
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* libsysguy |
feels bad about hourly |
20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
why?! |
20:19 |
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libsysguy |
every time i sign in I feel like wizzyrea is having problems becuase of it |
20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
! |
20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
well that's just coincidence. :P |
20:19 |
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* wizzyrea |
does not feel bad about hourly |
20:19 |
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cait |
it was a big change |
20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
20:19 |
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cait |
don't feel bad about it :) |
20:19 |
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libsysguy |
wizzyrea stop testing things and finding bugs I missed :p |
20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
and, all of it can be fixed :) |
20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
I didn't! |
20:19 |
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libsysguy |
true |
20:20 |
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libsysguy |
hah |
20:20 |
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libsysguy |
maybe my next big project won't cause as many problems |
20:20 |
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cait |
depends on your next big project .... |
20:20 |
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* cait |
is curious :) |
20:20 |
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wizzyrea |
don't forget, 7001 was my baby |
20:20 |
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wizzyrea |
well, srdjan's baby really |
20:20 |
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sekjal |
looks like 8129 identifies the problem and solution pretty well... anyone want to give it a try? |
20:20 |
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wizzyrea |
we had a code baby together. |
20:20 |
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cait |
well... it has a dad and a mom then :) |
20:21 |
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libsysguy |
cait https://github.com/libsysguy/koha-catalyst |
20:21 |
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wizzyrea |
that sounds… wrong. |
20:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh hey |
20:21 |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal - I'll give that a go |
20:21 |
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cait |
oh |
20:21 |
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libsysguy |
code coitus |
20:21 |
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wizzyrea |
ew |
20:22 |
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cait |
ew |
20:22 |
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libsysguy |
heh |
20:22 |
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sekjal |
I think line 2278 of C4/Members.pm may be the place to change |
20:22 |
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sekjal |
put $today in the same format as issuedate and date_due |
20:23 |
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sekjal |
brownie points: renaming the variable $now, since it is now more specific than just day |
20:24 |
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cait |
libsysguy: I am still not getting it :( |
20:25 |
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* wizzyrea |
needs a git alias for "wip" |
20:25 |
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20:25 |
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libsysguy |
cait I am trying to rebase koha on the Catalyst framework |
20:26 |
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cait |
and you think that will cause less problems than hourly? |
20:26 |
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libsysguy |
it has a lot of cool features, plus it would reign in the codebase |
20:26 |
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libsysguy |
haha |
20:26 |
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cait |
is it a proof of concept? |
20:26 |
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libsysguy |
yeah it is |
20:26 |
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libsysguy |
I am working on notices |
20:27 |
|
libsysguy |
rewriting the interface and integrating it with the calendar |
20:27 |
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wizzyrea |
with the stuff from 7001 I hope |
20:27 |
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libsysguy |
also working on a way to implement calendar recurrences |
20:27 |
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cait |
hm |
20:27 |
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cait |
perhaps not all at once? |
20:27 |
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cait |
you know... tiny steps |
20:27 |
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libsysguy |
oh yeah |
20:27 |
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cait |
easier to test and get in |
20:27 |
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libsysguy |
well this is just a proof of concept |
20:27 |
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wizzyrea |
there was one other thing |
20:27 |
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libsysguy |
I don't really know how to go about it |
20:28 |
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libsysguy |
other than get something working |
20:28 |
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libsysguy |
then show it off |
20:28 |
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libsysguy |
code and pony show? |
20:28 |
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wizzyrea |
that needed to be added to 7001 - instead of requiring a file, use a "slipcss" pref like "opacusercss" |
20:28 |
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libsysguy |
heh |
20:28 |
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wizzyrea |
and include that. |
20:28 |
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wizzyrea |
instead of requiring a special file. |
20:29 |
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rangi |
back |
20:31 |
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libsysguy |
bug 7001 |
20:31 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, In Discussion , User Configurable Slips |
20:33 |
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oleonard |
Okay, I'm off. Y'all get that database thing sorted out while I'm gone okay? Thanx. |
20:34 |
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* cait |
was more planning to sort out the waffles... |
20:35 |
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mtj |
rangi: heya - did you know this got broked -> http://koha-community.org/get-involved/ |
20:35 |
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mtj |
prolly from yr nginx switch? |
20:36 |
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rangi |
nope i didnt, or i would have fixed it :) |
20:36 |
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rangi |
2 seconds |
20:38 |
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mtj |
ta :) |
20:39 |
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melia |
I have another question from a library who upgraded to 3.8.1 today that *might* be related to hourly loans, possibly. (I'm not sure if there's a bug report yet - I can't find one) |
20:40 |
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rangi |
brave library :) |
20:40 |
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melia |
items that are due today 5/29 at 23:59 are showing as due at 00:00 |
20:40 |
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rangi |
and that 1 minute will kill us all! |
20:40 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
20:40 |
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melia |
hehe |
20:40 |
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melia |
they're getting charged for it being overdue 1 day that it's not really overdue |
20:41 |
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melia |
(so the library says) |
20:41 |
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rangi |
hmm |
20:41 |
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sekjal |
solution: don't charge overdues |
20:41 |
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rangi |
most likely to do with hourly loans |
20:41 |
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melia |
LOL. thanks sekjal. :) |
20:41 |
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jcamins |
melia: if you're using the cronjob to calculate fines, it's nothing to worry about. |
20:41 |
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rangi |
since nothing was due at time based period before that |
20:41 |
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jcamins |
Add a one-day grace period and it'll be straightened out tomorrow. |
20:42 |
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jcamins |
If you're doing the calculate-at-return method for calculating fines, add a 24-hour grace period, and wait 3 weeks. |
20:42 |
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jcamins |
If you're not doing either of those things, that's a mighty creative library you got there! |
20:42 |
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melia |
haha. I'm not sure how they're calculating their fines. I'll go look at that. |
20:43 |
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rangi |
mtj: http://koha-community.org/get-involved/ |
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druthb |
o/ |
20:50 |
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rangi |
hiya druthb |
20:50 |
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druthb |
hiya, rangi |
20:56 |
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libsysguy |
hey druthb :) |
20:56 |
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* druthb |
pulls out cookies, and offers one to libsysguy. |
20:56 |
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libsysguy |
awww |
20:56 |
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* libsysguy |
takes cookies and runs back to his dark corner |
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druthb |
heh |
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sekjal |
alright, folks, time for me to go. have a good morning/afternoon/evening/etc |
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libsysguy |
what is the difference between a TT file and an INC file |
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* libsysguy |
can't find anything other than the extension |
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cait |
slef: around? |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: they have different extensions. That's all, as far as I know. |
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libsysguy |
jcamins++ |
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cait |
libsysguy: I think an inc file is a tt files used as ain iclude? |
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cait |
without all my typos |
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* cait |
should sleep |
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libsysguy |
heh its ok I got the gist |
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libsysguy |
sleep is a wonderful thing |
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cait |
good night all :) |
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seanb |
howdy. quick question: can koha and drupal play nice on the same server? |
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rangi |
as long as you set up your apache configuration nicely then yep |
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seanb |
hmmm. host based resolution? something like that? |
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seanb |
or is it name based... |
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rangi |
name based probably, drupal is a big pile of php mess, and koha is pile of perl mess .. drupal can work your server pretty hard too, so it depends on a lot of things, how big the sites are, how much traffic they get, how grunty the server is |
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libsysguy |
and how hard you are nailing mysql |
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seanb |
i already have some research to do... drupal is sitting in /var/www and koha is sitting elsewhere. i'm clear on how to configure apache properly at the most fundamental level |
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seanb |
*not clear |
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seanb |
the koha db isn't hitting mysql very hard, and i don't expect the drupal do so either. by the time that would be a factor, i hopefully will have learned how to properly tune it |
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rangi |
you'd have 2 different (well 3, koha already uses 2) virtualhosts |
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seanb |
under sites-enabled? |
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rangi |
id do some reading up on apache :) |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
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libsysguy |
you're probably going to have to assign something to a different port or have multiple IP's assigned to that box |
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rangi |
hm not really no |
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rangi |
namebased hosting is fine all on the same port/ip |
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* rangi |
has 15 koha running on the same ip and port |
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libsysguy |
0_0 |
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* druthb |
has 25 instances on one box. |
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libsysguy |
madness |
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druthb |
same IP and port. |
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druthb |
NameVirtualHost++ |
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libsysguy |
heh oh yeah |
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seanb |
k |
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seanb |
i guess i'll see what happens with my bumbling around |
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seanb |
in order to create a virtual host entry for drupal, do i do something similar to the koha link under sites-enabled? |
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rangi |
my response to drupal is always |
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rangi |
'burn it, burn it with fire!' |
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rangi |
so im not the best person to ask about that :-) |
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rangi |
but i suspect the answer is yes |
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seanb |
lol! if i were using two separate servers, it would be a non-issue |
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seanb |
since koha already has a virtual host on port 80, i can't complete the drupal installation |
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rangi |
ahh so it appears it's drupal that wont play nice, wants to be the only site on the server? |
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mtj |
ftw , ive setup koha and drupal vhosts, on the same box... |
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seanb |
not necessarily. i think normally it doesn't have to worry about other virtual hosts. i just lack the expertise to create a named virtual host for drupal |
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seanb |
not hard, i'm sure. i just don't have the info on the top of my head |
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seanb |
mtj, i have a koha package installation and I have unpacked drupal |
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seanb |
i can look up how to do it, but it would great to get pointed in the right direction |
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seanb |
not sure how to setup the named virtual host for drupal so that it can work in parallel with koha |
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pastebot |
"mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "drupal" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/420 |
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rangi |
hi kyleh |
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mtj |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
do you have the namevirtualhost directive in your config? |
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hasn't read the backlog |
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jcamins |
namevirtualhost? |
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jcamins |
apache? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... apache is the ram hog |
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jcamins |
Not quite what I was going for. |
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jcamins |
Oh well. |
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druthb |
lulz |
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seanb |
thanks! |
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seanb |
wizzyrea, are you talking about ports.conf? |
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wizzyrea |
afaik you can stick it anywhere apache reads config info from. I've seen it in ports.conf before |
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seanb |
that statement is in there |
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seanb |
oh. it's commented out |
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seanb |
#NameVirtualHost *:80 |
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wizzyrea |
try uncommenting it :) |
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wizzyrea |
and restarting apache. |
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wizzyrea |
and you do have DNS set up for your two virtualhosts, right? |
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seanb |
nope. i'm using rackspace. i copied my existing koha server into a new server to test it with drupal. no dns. will i be able to test this using just the ip address? |
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wizzyrea |
technically that's not how name virtual hosts work |
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seanb |
bah, i suppose not |
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jcamins |
seanb: you can edit /etc/hosts manually. |
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wizzyrea |
but you do have to have a name for it, somewhere. |
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seanb |
ah. so i can put whatever dns name i want into /etc/hosts, as long as it resolves to the same ip address? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: of course, just use drupal.mydomain.com, koha.mydomain.com, and intra.koha.mydomain.com |
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jcamins |
You could even use an invalid domain name. |
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* jcamins |
goes to get his first load of veggies from the CSA. :D |
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seanb |
i need to do a csa at some point |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
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wizzyrea |
but what would I do with all of that kale! |
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seanb |
chips! |
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seanb |
i'm not clear on how an invalid dns entry will allow me to get to drupal through apache |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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rangi |
hi Brooke ltns |
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Brooke |
gold farming the shizznit outta Diablo, but the servers are down, alas. |
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slef |
@later tell cait no I'm not around. That's great though :) |
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huginn` |
slef: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
interesting |
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jcamins_away |
Kale chips? TIRTMI |
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rangi |
heh |
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* rangi |
tests something |
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eythian |
http://www.magneticboots.com/BIN_ME/starWalls.gif |
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eythian |
@later tell magnus_waffles yeah, I'll be not too far away from YAPC::EU, hoping to make it. |
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huginn` |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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eythian |
@later tell magnus_waffles ah actually, your link is something different. I don't know that I'll be able to make it to Norway at that time. |
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eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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