IRC log for #koha, 2012-05-11

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00:46 * chris_n runs away screaming after seeing "" in the buffer
01:00 chris_n jcamins: if you have a moment to sign-off, I attached a followup to 7977 addressing Jonathan's QA issues
01:01 * chris_n could not locate the font changes he mentioned, however
01:02 jcamins chris_n: will do.
01:08 jcamins chris_n: just one patch?
01:08 chris_n yes
01:08 chris_n the last
01:08 chris_n "Followup...."
01:08 jcamins Yep. Got it. :)
01:08 jcamins I didn't realize it would be named so clearly.
01:09 chris_n I grep'd for the font change he mentions, but could not find it in my repo
01:09 chris_n maybe it something local to him
01:09 jcamins Yeah, I'm not finding it either.
01:10 * chris_n is digging his heals in on the back-tics :-)
01:10 chris_n heels
01:10 jcamins Hm.
01:10 jcamins Wait, here it is.
01:11 chris_n the suspense is killing
01:11 jcamins opac.css
01:11 jcamins #daily-quote
01:13 * chris_n looks
01:13 chris_n ahh
01:13 chris_n I did not grep there :-)
01:14 chris_n can you remove it and add it to that patch?
01:14 jcamins Sure.
01:14 chris_n tnx
01:15 jcamins I see why that line was there.
01:16 chris_n formatting?
01:16 jcamins Yeah.
01:16 * chris_n will run that font locally
01:16 jcamins It's hideous sans serif.
01:16 chris_n hehe
01:17 chris_n those fonts are "web safe" I thought
01:17 jcamins I think the objection was that there are no serif fonts anywhere else in Koha.
01:19 jcamins Hm.
01:19 jcamins Should saving a change take ages?
01:20 chris_n not really
01:20 jcamins It worked earlier today.
01:20 chris_n well, folks can do whatever they like locally
01:21 jcamins Okay, let me try removing this follow-up and see if saving works.
01:22 jcamins Could you try editing a quote and see if it works?
01:22 chris_n om
01:22 jcamins Yeah, looks like there's a problem in
01:23 chris_n broken
01:23 * chris_n looks
01:27 chris_n hmm, missing id
01:27 jcamins Odd.
01:27 jcamins I wonder why it worked before.
01:27 jcamins Because I did try it before signing off.
01:28 chris_n I see the problem
01:28 rangi chris_n: its a fair call, the file is in the mysql specific dir, there is a postgres dir, they can put a file in ther
01:28 rangi since unless postgres suddenly switched to innodb
01:28 chris_n my thoughts exactly
01:28 rangi that file is never ever gonna work anyway
01:29 rangi all we do is risk breaking it for mysql
01:29 jcamins Or they could work at eliminating the .sql files entirely.
01:29 rangi that is a better course of action
01:29 jcamins DBIx::Class FTW
01:29 jcamins Then I could run Koha with sqlite.
01:29 rangi heh
01:34 chris_n +1
01:34 chris_n jcamins: working on the fix now
01:34 jcamins Thanks.
01:47 chris_n jcamins: ok, ditch that last patch and grab the new one
01:47 * chris_n squashed away a few important lines of code :-P
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01:49 jcamins Yeah, that fixed it.
01:51 jcamins Looks good.
01:52 chris_n what was the name of that recording module you mentioned? Mechanize::something?
01:52 jcamins The recorder is HTTP::Recorder.
01:52 * chris_n considers writing test of the interface that way
01:52 jcamins There's a script to set it up in release-tools.
01:52 chris_n it would allow automated checks to catch bad squashes like that
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02:09 * chris_n crashes
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03:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #6 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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03:32 Amit_Gupta heya bag
03:32 bag heya Amit_Gupta
03:32 wahanui hmmm... Amit_Gupta is from Nucsoft Osslabs
03:33 Amit_Gupta heya wahanui
03:33 Amit_Gupta wahanui: yes
03:33 wahanui Amit_Gupta: i'm not following you...
03:34 Amit_Gupta hmmm......
04:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #6: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.8.x/6/
04:06 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]heckstyleResult/?  <-- just added this
04:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #7 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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04:41 cait hi #koha
04:44 Amit_Gupta heya cait
04:45 cait hi Amit_Gupta
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04:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #7: UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.8.x/7/
05:04 cait hi connor_l_dewar
05:04 connor_l_dewar howdy
06:02 Amit_Gupta exit
06:19 alex_a bonjour
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07:00 reiveune hello
07:00 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
07:06 julian_m hello
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07:17 Oak kia ora #koha
07:18 druthb o/
07:19 clrh hello
07:19 wahanui hola, clrh
07:19 bag morning druthb
07:19 druthb hi, bag!
07:19 bag :)
07:20 clrh gmcharlt: erf it is not the right key I don't know from where it comes... I'll send you the mail with devs keys
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07:24 clrh gmcharlt: done, thanks
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09:00 paul_p good morning #koha
09:13 magnuse kia ora paul_p
09:13 magnuse and yay for Bug 7249!
09:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Report webservices
09:13 paul_p hi magnuse
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09:13 kf hi #koha
09:13 magnuse kia ora kf
09:13 kf hi magnuse :)
09:13 paul_p good morning kf !
09:13 kf hi paul_p :)
09:15 * paul_p hungry, and it's only 11AM...
09:15 magnuse and yay for upgrading jquery too!
09:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5184 - Upgrade jQuery to the latest version (staff client) <[…]3c79c886770bc2c53> / Bug 7249 BDRev number <[…]f201442ab399a1d77> / bug 7249 follow-up, online help <[…]967ded1e95a2f5043
09:18 kf paul_p: have you seen there was some confusion about the patch for opac? (jquery update)?
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09:18 vfernandes hi guys
09:18 paul_p kf not sure i see what you' re speaking of
09:18 kf the jquery update :)
09:19 paul_p kf yes, i've understood that. but not sure I see what you're speaking of about the patch for opac. This patch is only for staff
09:19 kf paul_p: yep, check the comments
09:19 kf[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5184
09:19 huginn Bug 5184: enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
09:20 kf looks like some mistake in qa when reattaching the patches
09:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #722 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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09:21 paul_p ohhh !!! got it ! I misunderstood something, you're right.
09:21 kf mtj reattached the opac patch but obsoleted it at the same time it seems
09:21 druthb o/
09:21 kf not sure if that means it hasn't passed qa
09:21 paul_p i've seen we had 2 patches for staff, but failed to see that the same patch was here for OPAC & obsoleted by mistake !
09:21 kf it seems quite small tho?
09:21 paul_p kf yep, i'll QA it
09:21 kf :)
09:21 vfernandes i'm having a little problem with authority indexing... the heading (should have all 200 subfields) isn't correctly indexed... only contains subfield $a
09:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5184' <[…]38cfb0d481b0a0e2c> / Bug 5184 [REVISED] Upgrade jQuery to the latest version (OPAC) <[…]443b98bb160aaecaa> / Bug 6335 Set branch in sip session <[…]ha.git;a=commitdi
09:29 vfernandes no one have idea how to solve my problem?
09:34 * magnuse reminds paul_p gently that bug 7249 relies on bug 7248
09:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Report webservices
09:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services
09:34 slef vfernandes: probably not without digging around in your authority records, Koha's code and your zebra.
09:36 paul_p magnuse thx, 7248 is later on my pile (and 7249 works if you don't have memcache)
09:36 magnuse paul_p: cool!
09:36 vfernandes slef: i'm using yaz-client to query
09:36 kf paul_p: but bit confusing perhaps, because you can give it caching time?
09:37 paul_p kf = nope, because the field appear only if you've caching on ! (i've checked, because i was surprised not to see the caching time field when testing !!!)
09:37 kf oh very cool :)
09:38 kf jcamins++ and rangi++ for clever templates :)
09:38 vfernandes look likes that Heading is only indexing 200$a because if i search values in those subfield it works fine
09:39 vfernandes find @and @attr 1=authtype NP @attr 1=Heading @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 "Rosenzweig" -> 1 hit (200$a = Rosenzweig)
09:39 vfernandes find @and @attr 1=authtype NP @attr 1=Heading @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 "Rosenzweig Serge" -> 0 hit (200$a = Rosenzweig   200$b = Serge)
09:39 slef vfernandes: first things I would try is a full reindex of authorities, saving the exported auth data to look at with yaz-marcdump; then look at the zebra config and the koha code that sends it for indexing.
09:39 slef vfernandes: but this may be more than we can do over IRC, sorry.
09:43 kf does someone know who did the koha git twitter service? I think something must have changed since it was activated - because the links seem to be broken
09:43 magnuse i think mtj talked about git and twitter
09:45 vfernandes sleft: how i can save the auth data?
09:46 vfernandes yaz-marcdump ... ?
09:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8048 - better spacing on categories for attributes <[…]3f8989a7fe46f02ab> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5345' <[…]ca66a32e0bcd229a9> / Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [16] <
09:51 vfernandes slef: how i can save the auth data?
09:59 magnuse paul_p: sorry for the nagging... i just pulled from git and tried to save an SQL report and even though the web UI says it was saved it does not show up in the list of saved reports, and i get this in the error log: " DBD::mysql::db do failed: Column 'cache_expiry' cannot be null". i did not see the "cache expiry" field when i saved the report...
10:08 paul_p magnuse = there is an updatedatabase, that should put you to iirc (i'll check)
10:09 paul_p it worked well for me, maybe I made a mistake when pushing ?
10:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #722: UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/722/
10:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7500 - Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
10:09 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 7249 : Allow reports to be called through a restful interface
10:09 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7249: Syspref to control number of rows in web service results
10:09 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7249 follow-up, online help
10:09 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7249 BDRev number
10:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5184 - Upgrade jQuery to the latest version (staff client)
10:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
10:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Report webservices
10:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
10:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #723 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #721 3 days 12 hr ago)
10:10 kf I wonder if it's somehting I missed - because I tested both patches together. So when the form hides the field it does not have a default value ... and explodes.
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10:11 magnuse i'm on
10:12 magnuse i see this: my $usecache = C4::Context->preference('usecache'); in the code here:[…]=9351&action=diff
10:12 magnuse but i don't have a pref called usecache
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10:14 francharb hi all
10:14 francharb tiny question!
10:14 francharb :)
10:14 paul_p magnuse this syspref is in 7248, it's not related to your problem.
10:14 francharb is there a specific set up for analytical recordss?
10:14 francharb apart from the syspref
10:14 francharb I have 2 install
10:15 francharb same version installed
10:15 francharb on the first one, the analytical records works
10:15 francharb not on the second one
10:15 francharb and i can"t see why...
10:15 francharb once i created a analytical record
10:16 francharb I don't have the like form the host item to the analytical record
10:16 francharb Any idea where the problem come from?
10:18 paul_p jenkins now unstable, but seing the message I think it's the sample database, not the pushed patches
10:19 kf francharb: not sure about unimarc :(
10:19 kf are you using the easyanalytics feature?
10:22 magnuse paul_p: can't see usecache here?[…]=9360&action=diff
10:24 kf paul_p: I think Jared and me missed something with the pref that got not implemented - we will need a follow-up
10:24 kf :(
10:24 kf paul_p: plz don't revert - i will try to work out something with jared later and submit fast (this feature got stuck so long already, I really want this to go in and I know jared too)
10:26 chris_n http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]styleResult/new/?
10:26 chris_n so when do we start the great total refactor? ^^^
10:26 chris_n :-)
10:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7877 - note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish <[…]6ae05e12f144b51fb> / Bug 7842 - Inconsistencies in Notices interface <[…]b8b5453c581c453ee> / Bug 7739 follow-up for capital cases <[…];a=commitdiff;h=1
10:26 kf chris_n: I am not sure I understand what it tests - can you explain it a bit? :)
10:27 kf I saw there were lots of wanrs
10:27 jaya please tell me how do i add members in KOHA . We are using catalogue already module and now wants to implement circulation module. For that, first we require to add the members in the members module. But its not happening....kindly help !!!
10:27 chris_n if I understand correctly, it attempt so check the complexity of the code based on the number of possible execution paths
10:27 kf jaya: have you configured patron categories? go and work your way down from the administration page
10:28 kf jaya: which version of koha are you using?
10:28 chris_n the greater the number of execution paths, the more complex the code, and the greater need of refactoring.... I think
10:28 kf guess circulation and biblio are no surprise candidates
10:29 kf and
10:29 wahanui is probably complicated and has been the source of much contention in the wake of KohaCon with BibLibre rewriting it for Solr/Lucene instead of Zebra support.
10:29 chris_n I was surprised that pretty much everything is a candidate :P
10:30 chris_n off to b'fast
10:31 paul_p off to lunch ;-)
10:31 magnuse jaya: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/en/patscirc.html
10:31 kf off to... well.. off.
10:31 magnuse hehe
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10:38 jaya its 2.8
10:40 jaya manual given by you belongs to latest version of koha i guess
10:40 jaya is it ?
10:40 Topdog Hello Everone
10:40 jaya bcoz 2.8 version of koha has not got any of these parameters such as patron categories etc ??
10:40 Topdog Its 3.06
10:40 jaya ya
10:41 jaya so wht should i do
10:41 jaya now
10:41 jaya pls tell me
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10:42 Topdog I have this Challenge with Koha, where after adding records during cataloging i tried searching 4 d records but i got a "no results found in biblios" pls help out wit a solution
10:43 magnuse jaya: 2.8 is really, really old and unsupported, are you sure that is what you are using?
10:43 jaya yes its 2.8
10:44 Topdog it's version 3.6
10:44 jaya <Topdog>: this happens sumtimes when we put wrong spelling of the title in the search option,,,,try again with exactly right spelling
10:45 jaya arey what m using is 2.8
10:45 magnuse jaya: i don't even think there was a 2.8 - maybe 2.2.8?
10:45 Topdog i hv tried for various cant b all spelling errors
10:46 magnuse jaya: anyway, the best thing you could do is upgrade to a newer version
10:46 magnuse Topdog: did you set up the zebra cronjobs?
10:47 Topdog ya..
10:47 jaya ok fine
10:47 jaya which one should i install then
10:48 magnuse jaya: 3.6.4 is the current stable version
10:48 magnuse Topdog: have you seen[…]ch-stuff-up-help/ ?
10:48 slef vfernandes: -k flag to the reindex command.
10:48 Topdog yes i hav seen it..
10:48 jaya thanks
10:49 jaya i will do
10:49 slef vfernandes: no -k to
10:49 vfernandes humm ok
10:49 slef or at least I think it is
10:49 slef check by running -h
10:50 slef Koha developers often leave help behind. Use it when it's there.
10:50 slef Can anyone create kohacon12 on for us, please?
10:51 Topdog i hv ran it..
10:52 vfernandes I'm seeing now the records
10:52 rangi ill try slef
10:54 vfernandes slef: apparently everything is fine
10:55 rangi slef:
10:55 rangi apparently i already had
10:56 slef rangi: thank you. I'll link it on Any other sites we should have it on?
10:57 rangi hmm, none that spring to mind
10:59 slef updated
10:59 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
10:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #723: FIXED in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/723/
10:59 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 7820: Add missing Debian packages
10:59 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7820: Followup: Add missing Debian packages
10:59 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6335 Set branch in sip session
10:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages
10:59 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5184 [REVISED] Upgrade jQuery to the latest version (OPAC)
10:59 jenkins_koha * koha: Replace itemnumber by barcode in links of patron modification log
10:59 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Welcoming Lyon 3 team as a committer, and adding 3.8.0 release
10:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6335 normal, P3, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions
10:59 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [16]
10:59 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8048 - better spacing on categories for attributes
10:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
10:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables in Koha
10:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8048 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , better spacing on categories for attributes
11:00 slef rangi: can you change the link to please?
11:00 rangi will do
11:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #724 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
11:00 slef ta
11:01 slef oh I can
11:02 rangi done
11:03 slef I added venue. Will stop now.
11:03 rangi :_
11:03 rangi :) too
11:03 rangi still getting used to new keyboard
11:07 magnuse
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11:13 druthb o/
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11:14 magnuse \o
11:15 dgl-library hi #koha
11:15 dgl-library does anyone know about editing the MARC structure? my question is about hidden fields
11:15 dgl-library I've seen that there are two options for hidden (when editing in XML)
11:15 dgl-library 1 and -6
11:15 wahanui -5
11:15 dgl-library what's the difference
11:16 dgl-library my guess is that 1 means hidden from the user unless there's imported data, and −6 means hidden always, but not sure
11:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #8 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #6 7 hr 58 min ago)
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11:29 kf dgl-library: it's a bit confusing with the numbers, but there is some documentationin the online help
11:30 kf click on the [?] in the upper right corner on that page
11:31 dgl-library kf: thanks
11:31 kf dgl-library: and it really only affects the marc views
11:31 kf not the normal views
11:32 dgl-library kf: I want to make life easier for the people entering the book info by making unnecessary fields invisible
11:32 kf yes, that is possible :)
11:32 kf only people expect that it also changes the opac view, which does not work
11:32 kf so I thought I woudl mention it :)
11:33 dgl-library thanks for the tip and the clarification :)
11:33 magnuse kf++
11:33 druthb1 kf++
11:33 * magnuse wanders off to a late lunch
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11:40 jcamins_away @later tell paul_p It looks like you pushed the patch for bug 7249 without the patch for 7248. 7249 depends on 7248.
11:40 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
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11:56 francharb kf, sorry for late answer! ;) yep, i'm using the easyanalytic feature
11:56 francharb and I'm not sur it's related to unimarc or marc21
11:56 francharb the feature works on my local installation but not on the install 'im using for the training
11:57 francharb it's the same koha version
11:57 francharb °~°
11:57 kf francharb: perhaps a difference in the frameworks? or in the items?
11:58 francharb maybe but I don't know what I have to check...
11:58 jcamins_away paul_p: you pushed 7249 but not 7248, which it depends on.
11:58 francharb I will try to look subfield by subfield and mapping by mapping
11:58 paul_p hi jcamins_away yes, I know, i'm on 7248 now
11:58 jcamins_away paul_p: okay, thanks. :)
11:58 francharb I didn't check the documentation again
11:58 kf paul_p: no follow-up needed then- I was mistaken :) jcamins_away corrected the system preference reference we found ealier :)
11:59 paul_p jcamins_away but it appears to me that 7249 works without 7248 if you don't have caching ON
11:59 francharb but I can"t remender any set up requirement...
11:59 kf paul_p: you can't save a new report
11:59 jcamins_away paul_p: you won't be able to save reports without 7248.
11:59 kf I think you perhaps tried with an existing
11:59 paul_p kf right, I tried with an existing one
12:05 kf paul_p: I got worried I missed something :) happy it will be resolved with 7248
12:08 * francharb is going to the training he is giving! :^)
12:08 francharb s/going/going back
12:08 francharb anyway..
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12:12 kf @marc 260 c
12:12 huginn kf: Date of publication, distribution, etc. May contain multiple dates (e.g., dates of publication and copyright). (Repeatable)
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12:13 drojf good day #koha
12:13 kf hi drojf
12:13 drojf hi kf :)
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12:14 drojf got my "dienstreisegenehmigung", trying to find out about the "abschlagszahlung" :)
12:23 kf whoot! :)
12:24 magnuse traveling is serious business, eh? ;-)
12:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #724: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/724/
12:25 jenkins_koha * amit.gupta: Bug 7739 - Batch edit items of a title
12:25 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7739 follow-up for capital cases
12:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7842 - Inconsistencies in Notices interface
12:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7877 - note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish
12:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7739 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, shinoy.m, Pushed to Master , Batch edit items of a title
12:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7842 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Inconsistencies in Notices interface
12:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7877 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish
12:46 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
12:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #8: FIXED in 1 hr 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.8.x/8/
12:46 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 7820: Add missing Debian packages
12:46 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7820: Followup: Add missing Debian packages
12:46 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages
12:47 oleonard Hi #koha
12:49 nengard morning oleonard
12:49 druthb Hi, oleonard!  :)
13:01 gmcharlt good morning
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13:18 Shane-S Been awhile, hi all
13:19 Shane-S so I can remember the config file I set the username and password to the admin page. I am getting back to our Koha project and I didn't document the login
13:25 slef Shane-S: first question?
13:25 wahanui i guess first question is "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal?
13:27 Shane-S what file is it you edit during setup to specify the admin login for the :8080 page
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13:28 Shane-S I can't get in, and my post it just has the accounts for my ubuntu box
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13:29 Shane-S don't worry this is a non-production box, but I am creating a timeline for the actual thing, and I can't get in to time a the process of adding a physical book to koha
13:31 Shane-S I feel like it was an XML file
13:31 Shane-S I just can't remember
13:31 Shane-S think I found it... /etc/koha/sites/biblio/koha-conf.xml
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13:34 Shane-S hmm that doesn't seem like it...they seem to be users for mysql, and the system behind the scenes...I guess MySQL is next
13:36 oleonard Shane-S: You can log in to Koha as the mysql user
13:36 oleonard ...and then reset the password for whatever admin user you usually use
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13:40 Shane-S via the mysql command line I assume, as the web interface doesn't expect that username and password combo, is it an MD5 cyrpt I use?
13:41 oleonard No, you log into the Koha admin web interface with the username and password given for the mysql user you created for Koha
13:41 oleonard I mean mysql credentials
13:41 Shane-S ah okay
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13:44 Shane-S lol....wasn't the password I forgot...was actually the username :)
13:44 Shane-S thanks!
13:44 Shane-S I am putting that on my post it :
13:46 Shane-S Perhaps you all can answer this, how long would you estimate it takes too add a book and barcode it?
13:46 oleonard It depends entirely on how you do it. From scratch? Import a record? Download from Z39.50?
13:47 Shane-S Import 96-98% from Marc from follett, our system has all the biblo now
13:48 Shane-S I also made it URL live :) (using POUND reverse proxy)
13:50 Shane-S I forget what I did but somehow you all helped me to make it so there was at least 1 copy of every book
13:51 Shane-S If that wasn't the case, I guess it would be a manual effort of adding a copy and generating a barcode for each one correct?
13:51 oleonard Makes sense.
13:53 Shane-S I had this all down 3months when I can't focus on single projects :(
13:55 Shane-S Do I have this correct... Biblio > Add Book(s) > Print Barcodes > Label Book(s)
13:57 oleonard Specifically:  Add bibliographic record > Add items > Print barcodes > Label items
13:58 * wizzyrea pokes bug 7998
13:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7998 critical, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , 3.8 UI cleanup, tweaks to new styles
13:58 wizzyrea yup, still kickin.
13:58 Shane-S Yeah...I have to adjust my timeline excel file then, I mistakenly thought I could batch print barcodes..forgetting it has to be unique for each book
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14:09 * wizzyrea waves
14:09 * libsysguy waves back
14:10 libsysguy wizzyrea i just got your message from huggin but i honestly have no idea what was on my mind a whole day ago lol
14:14 wizzyrea hehe
14:23 jcamins Good morning, #koha.
14:25 chris_n hi jcamins, wizzyrea, libsysguy, everyone else
14:26 libsysguy morning jcamins, chris_n
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14:32 * chris_n fixes another "squash" related bug in QOTD :-P
14:32 chris_n one must be very careful when squashing lots of little commits
14:32 jcamins Oh?
14:32 chris_n yes, this one cause the wrong array elements to be saved when saving uploaded quotes
14:33 chris_n resulting in non-quotes :-)
14:33 * chris_n will post a patch in a moment
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14:33 jcamins chris_n: how does it result in non-quotes?
14:34 chris_n specifically it placed the quote number in the source field and the source in the text field
14:34 chris_n fixed now, though
14:36 chris_n jcamins: I also submitted a patch to address another issue jonathan found, so there are two more now
14:37 chris_n hopefully those two will finish things off
14:37 * chris_n is afraid to squash them all back down again :-)
14:37 chris_n its actually not the squashing, but the reordering that got me
14:38 jcamins I will try to sign off when I'm at home, but I probably won't have a chance until tomorrow.
14:40 chris_n np, thanks
14:42 oleonard Busy Bugzilla today. Good job guys.
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14:58 * oleonard trips over Bug 8014 completely by accident and wonders who left it lying there unattended
14:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8014 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked
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15:06 vkm hello koha users
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15:08 vkm which is most stable version
15:08 jcamins vkm: I would probably recommend 3.6.4.
15:08 jcamins 3.6.5 will be released in a few weeks.
15:09 jcamins I never use any .0 releases, because they tend to have more bugs.
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15:09 vkm is there any problem with indexing in 3.6.4
15:09 * jcamins tosses NateC the duct tape.
15:10 jcamins vkm: you'll need to be more specific with your questions.
15:10 vkm i am using live cd of 3.6.4 but issued books shows items not availble
15:10 NateC for my mouth? ;)
15:10 jcamins NateC: I was thinking for your connection, but if the problem is that you're frightening your ISP, you can use it on your mouth instead. ;)
15:10 oleonard vkm: That could be a problem with 3.6.4, or the live cd, or your installation.
15:11 oleonard vkm: I would certainly recommend doing a real installation in order to eliminate one of those possible problems.
15:11 oleonard vkm: And if you use the packages that might simplify things
15:11 wizzyrea seems unlikely it's specifically a problem with 3.6.4
15:12 jcamins drojf: kf: what does "Mitverf." mean?
15:12 vkm cron job is not working for auto indexing rest of the cron job is working fine
15:12 jcamins vkm: that sounds like a problem with the livecd.
15:13 jcamins I don't know of anyone who uses the livecd, unfortunately.
15:13 jcamins (other than you, of course;)
15:14 vkm bcz i am new to the koha and linux so installation may not be easy for me but i have done lot of job like migration of my data users and everything
15:15 jcamins vkm: which livecd is it?
15:15 vkm please let me know the requirments so that i can install it in a easy way directly
15:15 vkm it is 3.6.4 live CD made by mr. vimal kumar
15:15 jcamins You know, maybe we should have "official" livecds that just use the packages + Debian squeeze.
15:16 vkm that cd includes webmin also
15:17 vkm and already having cronjobs etc, till date only i feel indexing related problem with that so i have to rebuild index all time
15:18 vkm please let me know any other genuine live CD
15:18 jcamins vkm: I don't use any livecds.
15:19 jcamins I think we've heard about this problem from a bunch of people recently.
15:19 jcamins logs?
15:19 wahanui logs is
15:19 jcamins ^^ you might search in there to see if anyone has talked about this problem with the livecd recently.
15:20 reiveune bye
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15:21 jcamins wizzyrea: thoughts on a livecd with only Koha on it?
15:22 jcamins I feel like since we only troubleshoot generic installations it might make sense to have a livecd that matches our expectations.
15:22 wizzyrea well you would not be the first to have that thought.
15:22 wizzyrea you mean like, have an "official" one?
15:22 vkm there must be some official live cd
15:22 wizzyrea having some familiarity with the existing one would be good.
15:23 wizzyrea not really, just intrepid volunteers who set them up as a project.
15:23 oleonard vkm: There is not an official live cd.
15:23 wizzyrea oh, btw, the debian administrator handbook is out.
15:23 wizzyrea
15:24 jcamins Right.
15:24 jcamins vkm: there is not.
15:24 jcamins wizzyrea: it would be, but when choosing between spending time with my wife, and learning about a livecd I will never use, the livecd loses out. Every. Time.
15:24 drojf jcamins: "Mitverf." in what context? could be short for "Mitverfasser", meaning co-author, or "Mitverfasst" meaning "co-authored"?!
15:24 jcamins Ooh, looks useful.
15:25 jcamins Co-author makes sense, thanks.
15:25 jcamins It's in the GND authority file.
15:25 jcamins
15:25 chris_n jcamins++ #on the use of time :-)
15:26 jcamins chris_n: thanks. The cat tends to win over the live cd, too.
15:26 drojf jcamins: yes co-author looks right
15:27 chris_n lol
15:27 * drojf got kohacon approved by bosses, a room and a flight (from an airport that will not be open by the time i planned to use it but)
15:28 jcamins drojf: if the airport won't be open, how will you find a plane going in the right direction?
15:28 vkm can i install koha directly from the internet after installing ubuntu
15:28 drojf they have to reschedule me somehow. i had it booked before the opening was delayed, its not my problem
15:28 jcamins Ah.
15:28 drojf i hope it's not my problem…
15:29 jcamins No, sounds like their problem.
15:29 vkm please tell me minimum hardware requirment for koha if data is more than 20 thousand and library users are 800
15:30 jcamins vkm: it depends on how much circulation you have.
15:31 vkm 50 items per day
15:31 jcamins Any modern computer will be sufficient.
15:31 vkm you mean 2 gb ram is sufficiant
15:32 vkm what about OPAC speed
15:32 kf drojf: new berlin airport?
15:32 jcamins It depends how many searches are being done. The more powerful the computer, the faster it will be. However, 20k items with a daily circulation of 50 items is very low.
15:33 jcamins So you're probably looking at very little usage.
15:33 drojf kf: yes
15:34 drojf when i realised i would go from there i was sure it would not work :D
15:35 vkm can we install koha on server class machine like IBM server
15:35 jcamins Of course.
15:36 vkm jcamins you are helping me a lot please sugest me what to do i have done everything with the help of live cd 3.6.4 learn and migrated my all data from ms access and members also
15:37 kf drojf: and they haven't contacted you yet?
15:37 kf hmmmm! :)
15:37 vkm tested and it works fine also but only indexing problem is there and i wanted to implement it in our organisation
15:38 oleonard vkm: If you want to move your installation of Koha to another machine you need to export a backup of the Koha database
15:38 oleonard vkm: Install Koha on your other machine and then import the database backup
15:39 kf 3.4x is officially eol now, right?
15:39 drojf kf: flight was booked by an agency on behalf of the university. i guess i will get an update somewhen next week. the airport opening delay has only been public for a day or two
15:39 kf I mean, noone is maintaining it?
15:39 jcamins kf: that is correct.
15:39 vkm now i can play with data migration and applications set up
15:40 vkm only i do not know direct installation but also not tried
15:40 drojf yeah, heavy rain. i was just invited to a barbecue. i think i'll pass :D
15:40 kf drojf: you make me hungry.
15:40 drojf that's an odd compliment :D
15:40 kf lol
15:40 kf you were already part of my external brain... this should not be worse
15:41 vkm suppose i will start from live cd now and later on if i learn direct installation etc in that case can i migrate all my data to new one
15:41 jcamins vkm: did you search in the logs to see if anyone had reported what the problem was?
15:42 drojf i think it's about time for an "i told you so" sms to the friend that said "forecast says there won't be any rain" while black cliuds were in front of my window
15:42 vkm i directly spoken to live cd maker but he also could not answer me and said it may be bug
15:42 datadoctor webmin is nice, but you can always install it later if you need it
15:43 vkm webmin is included with live cd
15:43 kf drojf: that's not nice :) - and it's still sunny here
15:43 jcamins It's not a bug in Koha 3.6.4, because lots of people are using 3.6.4 and indexing works fine.
15:44 jcamins If there's a bug, it's with the live cd configuration.
15:44 datadoctor there is the system preference for wildcards, sometimes causes problems with search, manifests similar to indexing issue
15:45 datadoctor system preference queryautoruncate - we set to "only if * is added"
15:45 jcamins More likely it's a configuration issue.
15:45 vkm yes i think also there is role of some zebraqued daemon also which i do not understant
15:45 jcamins datadoctor: are you using ICU?
15:45 datadoctor ICU?
15:45 wahanui ICU is a horrible monster that doesn't do what anyone expects.
15:46 jcamins Yeah, that's a pretty accurate description.
15:46 jcamins It allows you to search non-Roman character sets.
15:46 jcamins It also is broken if you use QueryAutoTruncate.
15:46 kf ICU is also a good monster for searching non lating scripts
15:46 wahanui okay, kf.
15:46 datadoctor Interesting - I will have to check that. Thought I was running generic, vanilla zebra
15:47 kf hm
15:47 kf lating
15:47 kf *sigh*
15:47 chris_n kf: is there anything particular you think should be added to 3.4?
15:47 vkm all the things are working fine in 3.6.4 live cd actual problem is suppose i issued a book than in webclient search it shows item not available
15:47 kf chris_n: no :) I changed a bug report filed against 3.4 with a comment
15:47 datadoctor [consults long feature request list]
15:48 datadoctor :)
15:48 kf forget ICU
15:48 wahanui kf: I forgot icu
15:48 chris_n kf: if so, I can always try to accommodate :-)
15:48 jcamins chris_n++
15:48 vkm and in webopac it shows items available along with check out items
15:48 kf ICU is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra
15:49 kf Icu?
15:49 wahanui Icu is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra
15:49 jcamins vkm: you know that there's a several minute wait for the Zebra indexer to catch up.
15:49 kf better
15:49 jcamins *?
15:49 jwagner jcamins, do you know anything about searching Chinese characters?
15:49 kf jwagner: you need ICU
15:49 jcamins ^^
15:50 jwagner I've kind of vaguely noted discussion on that in the past, but of course haven't saved any traffic -- is there a writeup somewhere?
15:50 vkm what could be the problem if daily or after 3-4 hour i will rebuild the whole index
15:50 kf jwagner: check bugzilla
15:50 kf jwagner: there was someone asking your question there and I ansered with a link how to install
15:50 jcamins vkm: I don't know. As I said, this is a problem with the live cd, which no one here has used.
15:51 kf bug 8065
15:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8065 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, chinese word search result all chinese biblios record
15:51 vkm no simply i wanted to ask suppose if i will rebuild index daily will it create any problem you forget the live cd
15:51 jcamins vkm: oh, I see what you're asking.
15:52 jcamins No, definitely no problem at all. :)
15:52 jcamins In fact, for small collections I've set it up like that intentionally.
15:53 vkm ok please let me know can i set up to rebuild index automatically daily pleas
15:53 jwagner kf, got it, thanks!
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15:53 jcamins cron?
15:53 wahanui cron is sending it to that? Sounds like a system problem, not koha.
15:53 datadoctor vkm: do you use something like this: */10 * * * * if [ ! -f $HOME/donotindex ]; then touch $HOME/donotindex;$PERL5LIB/misc/​migration_tools/ -z -b -x >>$HOME/koha-dev/var/log/update_zebra.log 2>&1;rm -f $HOME/donotindex; fi
15:53 jcamins crontab?
15:53 datadoctor in your cronjobs?
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15:54 jcamins datadoctor: nice... are you doing load balancing?
15:54 datadoctor nothing special - that might speed things up though
15:54 datadoctor any suggestions?
15:55 vkm my cronjob cd set up is like this   $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migrati​on_tools/ -b -a -z >/dev/null
15:55 jcamins No, implementing load balancing for Zebra remains on my to-do list.
15:55 jcamins vkm: you would remove the -z and change the frequency to once per day.
15:55 datadoctor I will add it to my to-do list as well.
15:56 jcamins datadoctor: I'd suggest the indexer that fredericd wrote.
15:57 jcamins My plan is to change it from checking whether done=1 to checking whether the timestamp is >= lastrun.
15:57 datadoctor Good idea - we do have some problems with ours when we restart, if we are indexing during the restart it disables indexing because of the donotindex
15:57 vkm above are the set up which does not work will it work for rebuild or i can make other by removing z
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15:57 datadoctor jcamins: Where might I find fredericd's script
15:58 datadoctor Is that included with 3.6?
15:58 jcamins vkm: unfortunately, I'm not sure. If you remove the "> /dev/null" part, you'll get an e-mail with the output, and then you would have the information needed to potentially troubleshoot the problem.
15:58 jcamins datadoctor: no, it's separate.
15:58 jcamins It's documented in the 3.8.0 INSTALL.debian file, but it works fine with 3.6.x, too.
15:59 datadoctor cool ;)
15:59 jcamins Bug 7759
15:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Pushed to Master , Use Koha-Contrib-Tamil to update Zebra data in background
15:59 vkm what are pre requirments for set up of email alerts
16:00 jcamins vkm: none. It'll go straight to your root user.
16:00 jcamins Or whichever user the livecd author set up to receive root's e-mail.
16:01 vkm i have completelly learned how to use koha but i thing i have to learn linux
16:01 vkm i mean how to generate auto emails for issue/return books and hold information to concern users
16:02 jcamins[…]koha-learn-linux/
16:02 jcamins Ah. You need to set up a mail server.
16:02 jcamins Postfix?
16:02 wahanui Postfix is found at
16:02 datadoctor This is a good explanation of Linux mail:[…]nux-command-line/
16:02 kf vkm: you need to be able to set up cron jobs and configure an mtp to send out mails
16:02 jcamins ^^ that's a good page to read about.
16:02 vkm is there any requirment to instal aditional email softwares etc
16:02 jcamins *to read about it
16:02 jcamins Maybe. It depends whether it's been set up already on the live cd.
16:02 kf vkm: you can use different software, but the system in general has to be able to send out mails
16:03 vkm live cd is only having webmin, koha
16:04 jcamins Then you'll have to setup a mail server. We just pointed out a bunch of articles to take a look at.
16:04 vkm i will be greatfull if any bodu use 3.6.4 from sourcforge and report me the solution
16:04 vkm or the problems associated with it
16:05 jcamins vkm: an option you might want to consider is hiring a support vendor to set this up for you. Everyone here is here as a volunteer.
16:05 vkm do you have any idea about setting mirror server jcamins
16:06 vkm so that if one stops another work with real time data transfer
16:06 slef wow I only just noticed that 3.8.0 shipped with a 3.7.x db version
16:06 slef how did I miss that before?
16:06 jcamins slef: it did?
16:06 datadoctor vkm: If you can get into Webmin (usually http://localhost:10000) check Webmin configuration > sending e-mail settings
16:07 jcamins vkm: that's definitely something you'd need to hire a vendor to set up, if you don't want to figure it out yourself.
16:07 datadoctor sorry, https !
16:07 slef jcamins:
16:07 slef jcamins: unless I missed something.
16:07 gmcharlt slef: very briefly, but I thought the tarball got updated with the correct version stamp a few hours afterwards
16:07 slef gmcharlt: looks like packages are still
16:07 gmcharlt ah
16:08 slef maybe that's why I missed it... this might be the first package-based server upgrade to 3.8 I've done
16:08 kf slef: I think it's not in the packages yet
16:08 kf slef: eythian went by the tag and that was missing the last update
16:08 slef kf: oic. Anything else missing, do you know?
16:08 kf no I think not
16:09 slef not to worry, then!
16:09 slef Thanks for the info, everyone!
16:09 vkm yes i wanted to resolve my problems own it will give lot of opportunity to learn but at the same time i also do not wanted to create problem for my users but much eager to implement it now
16:09 vkm None of the supported mail servers (Exim, Qmail, Postfix and Sendmail) were detected on your system. You will need to adjust the module configuration to set the mail server and possibly mail paths manually.
16:09 kf slef: and eythian knows - but I think he will do packages for 3.8.1 so should be ok by then
16:09 jcamins slef: oops. :(
16:09 jcamins Okay, that's an additional test I need to add to my release test thing.
16:09 jcamins Something that says "oy, you, you're an idiot, the version is wrong!"
16:09 jcamins slef: oh, yeah, the packages haven't been done for 3.8.0 yet, have they?
16:09 jcamins I thought the 3.8.0 packages were waiting for the 3.8.0 packaging patch.
16:10 kf jcamins: that's a good idea - it's easy to miss in all the excitement
16:10 slef jcamins: errr, I just got 3.8.0 packages... should I check where they came from?
16:10 jcamins slef: I might've missed something.
16:10 vkm i got this msg when webmin cliked at read user mail    None of the supported mail servers (Exim, Qmail, Postfix and Sendmail) were detected on your system. You will need to adjust the module configuration to set the mail server and possibly mail paths manually.3
16:11 slef http://debian.koha-community.o[…]pool/main/k/koha/ has a 3.8.0-1
16:11 jcamins vkm: you should read the articles we suggested above.
16:11 jcamins slef: yeah, looks like there are 3.8.0 packages.
16:11 jcamins Huh.
16:11 jcamins Odd that there are no 3.6 packages there.
16:11 slef jcamins: nuked from orbit on 3.8.0's release?
16:12 jcamins slef: shouldn't have been.
16:12 vkm ok jcamins thanks for your help
16:15 jcamins kf: I'll have to make it a warning, though, since I run the release test even when I'm not releasing.
16:15 slef jcamins: you'll have to ask eythian about the build scripts I guess
16:16 slef @later tell eythian jcamins was wondering where the 3.6 packages are... not on http://debian.koha-community.o[…]pool/main/k/koha/ ?
16:16 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
16:16 kf jcamins: makes sense :)
16:16 jcamins Maybe I should have one release script with "release --test" and "release --build"
16:16 kf oooh!
16:16 slef release --crash ?
16:17 jcamins I will link the release --build option to the Koha community recipe catalog, and include a random food as the official release food in the release notes.
16:17 magnuse yay!
16:18 kf jcamins: genious!
16:18 kf jcamins
16:19 kf jcamins++ for backporting useicu and all the nice authority linking
16:20 kf :D
16:20 jcamins slef: what should release --crash do?
16:20 slef overwrite all files with excerpts of /dev/random perhaps?
16:21 jcamins "This release brought to you by the letter Q, the number 5, and sweet potato gnocchi."
16:21 wizzyrea lol.
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16:22 kf lol
16:26 datadoctor mmmmmmm....gnocchi...
16:26 jcamins Not just any gnocchi. *sweet potato* gnocchi.
16:29 kf @later tell drojf I checked the 3.6 po files for syntax errors - all ok for now :)
16:29 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
16:30 jcamins kf: you saw that fredericd pulled new po files?
16:31 kf jcamins: yep
16:31 kf I just finished translating and checked for errors :)
16:31 kf (18:20:17) kf: :D
16:31 jcamins That was fast!
16:35 datadoctor lunchtime (in Ohio)
16:37 magnuse nengard: when you have the time, could you check that the patch i just sent for the docs works ok? looks like i need to do another similar one
16:38 nengard where did you send it?
16:38 nengard I don't see it on the docs list
16:38 magnuse hm no bug 7248 pushed today?
16:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services
16:38 jcamins magnuse: nope.
16:39 magnuse nengard: ^
16:39 nengard k - it must be on its way
16:41 magnuse nengard: it just hit my inbox...
16:42 jcamins magnuse: you could check out a temporary branch and apply 7248 over it.
16:43 magnuse jcamins: sure, i just don't think it should be missing from master for too long...
16:44 jcamins magnuse: agreed. I'm not sure why paul_p didn't push it before 7249, since 7249 depended on 7248, but I imagine paul_p has gone home by now.
16:45 jcamins So at least you can play around with the awesomeness that is the report service while waiting for tomorrow.
16:45 jcamins Wait, it's Friday.
16:45 nengard magnuse still nothing here ?. will keep refreshing
16:45 jcamins Monday.
16:46 magnuse jcamins: it's pizzaday! (except pizza is postponed until tomorrow)
16:47 jcamins magnuse: oh no! Why is pizza postponed?!?
16:47 magnuse it's such a nice day, we are having shrimp on the veranda instead?
16:47 jcamins Ah.
16:47 * jcamins doesn't like shrimp.
16:47 magnuse (does veranda work in english?)
16:47 magnuse jcamins: hah, too bad! ;-)
16:47 jcamins It does, but not in New York.
16:47 jcamins ;)
16:48 kf wait, it's friday?
16:48 magnuse hehe
16:48 magnuse kf: yup, shouldn't you go home and do accounting?
16:48 * kf puts a big bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha
16:48 magnuse w00t!
16:48 kf first I have to close some tickets :)
16:49 * oleonard shakes his imaginary fist at imaginary cookies
16:50 nengard magnuse I don't have any moderation requests - and it's not in the log: https://lists.koha-community.o[…]012-May/date.html
16:50 kf oleonard: what did the cookies do?
16:50 * kf hides them from oleonard
16:50 magnuse nengard: weird
16:51 kf magnuse: subscription?
16:51 oleonard kf: The failed to exist in reality!
16:51 kf oleonard: ok, that I can understand
16:51 magnuse kf: should be ok as far as i know
16:55 magnuse nengard: tried another one now
16:55 magnuse ...and it's in my inbox (cc'ed to me)
16:58 chris_n shrimp++
16:58 chris_n master_broken_on_friday--
16:58 wizzyrea ack how is master broken
16:58 jcamins wizzyrea: reports.
16:58 wahanui reports are done by each library, and you can configure it
16:58 chris_n reports it would appear
16:59 wizzyrea argle bargle bargle
16:59 chris_n wahanui: not atm
16:59 wahanui chris_n: what?
16:59 jcamins wizzyrea: if you apply bug 7248, that should fix it.
16:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services
16:59 wizzyrea oho
16:59 wizzyrea I see.
16:59 wizzyrea I missed some stuff.
16:59 wizzyrea got it.
16:59 wizzyrea :)
17:00 nengard is anyone else subscribed to the docs list getting magnuse's emails?
17:00 jcamins nengard: I am not. I've been waiting for it.
17:01 nengard I still don't have anything to moderate
17:01 nengard and nothing being delivered
17:03 magnuse nengard: posted the two patches here too:
17:04 magnuse had to fix a space in the filename of two images to generate ePub :-)
17:04 magnuse time to run now - have fun #koha!
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17:10 kf magnuse++ for generating epub!
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17:17 jcamins kf: now you can read the manual on your phone!
17:18 jcamins @time konstanz, germany
17:18 huginn jcamins: downloading the Perl source
17:18 jcamins I guess huginn doesn't do timezones.
17:18 jcamins @tz
17:18 huginn jcamins: downloading the Perl source
17:18 jcamins 17:18?
17:19 kf jcamins: he does, but I always forget how
17:20 jcamins huginn: help
17:20 huginn jcamins: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
17:20 jcamins huginn: list
17:20 huginn jcamins: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, Network, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, ReleaseDay, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather
17:20 kf @help Lart
17:20 huginn kf: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
17:21 jcamins @help user
17:21 huginn jcamins: (user [<channel>] <name>) -- Returns the last time <name> was seen and what <name> was last seen saying. This looks up <name> in the user seen database, which means that it could be any nick recognized as user <name> that was seen. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
17:21 kf help Lart
17:21 kf @help Todo
17:21 huginn kf: (todo [<username> [<task id>]|<task id>]) -- Retrieves a task for the given task id. If no task id is given, it will return a list of task ids that that user has added to their todo list.
17:21 kf @help Dunno
17:21 huginn kf: Error: There is no command "dunno".
17:22 jcamins Hehe.
17:27 jcamins Bah. I just used field 740.
17:28 jcamins I hate it when I have to use 740 (though not so much as when I have to use 787).
17:28 jcamins It makes me feel like MARC has failed me.
17:29 jcamins In fairness, that feeling is correct.
17:29 jwagner @quote add jcamins: It makes me feel like MARC has failed me.
17:29 huginn jwagner: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
17:29 jwagner Harrumph
17:30 jcamins @quote get 23
17:30 huginn jcamins: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
17:31 jwagner I was already registered, and now it won't recognize me. Sigh
17:31 kf @marc 740
17:31 huginn kf: Contains related or analytical titles that are not controlled through an authority file or list. (If related or analytical titles are controlled by an authority file, use field 730 (Added entry - uniform title)). (Repeatable) [a,h,n,p,5,6,8]
17:37 chris_n @quote add jcamins: It makes me feel like MARC has failed me.
17:37 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded.  Quote #204 added.
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18:11 * wizzyrea waves in a post-lunch comatose kind of way
18:11 kf oh
18:11 kf what was for lunch?
18:11 wizzyrea Turkey and swiss sandwich
18:11 kf swiss cheese?
18:11 wizzyrea yep
18:11 wizzyrea no, actual swiss people.
18:11 wizzyrea j/k :)
18:11 oleonard Turkey and swiss chocolate?
18:12 wizzyrea I wish there had been chocolate.
18:13 kf :)
18:13 * kf has some cherry chilly chocolate mousse chocolate in her drawer
18:13 wizzyrea !
18:13 oleonard brb
18:13 * kf shares virtually
18:13 kf ok, time for weekend :) bye all!
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18:14 nengard is there a bug in the overdues with fines report in 3.8?
18:14 wizzyrea by… lol.
18:14 wizzyrea she knows better.
18:14 nengard I should say a "known" bug
18:14 wizzyrea the first question?
18:14 wahanui the first question is "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal?
18:15 wizzyrea the first question is also "What is the problem you are experiencing?"
18:15 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
18:16 wizzyrea the first question?
18:17 wizzyrea the first question?
18:17 wahanui "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
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18:19 nengard wizzyrea were those questions for me?  anyway, all i tried to do was click the 'overdues with fines' link and got an error :)
18:19 nengard bug 8077 reported
18:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8077 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , overdues with fines won't run
18:20 wizzyrea I think there's a problem with reports in master
18:20 wizzyrea in general
18:20 wizzyrea there was a bug
18:20 wizzyrea @query caching
18:20 jcamins bug 7248
18:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services
18:20 huginn wizzyrea: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7533 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , T::T caching during installation
18:20 huginn wizzyrea: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5377 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Database fields too small for multiple ISBN and ISSN
18:20 wizzyrea ytat
18:20 huginn wizzyrea: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes
18:20 wizzyrea that.
18:20 huginn wizzyrea: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7857 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , database upgrade fails with plack
18:20 huginn wizzyrea: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Improve order item creation
18:20 wizzyrea oy sorry.
18:21 wizzyrea didn't even find the one I was looking for lo
18:21 wizzyrea lol
18:21 wizzyrea so your problem is probably related to that
18:22 jcamins Not if it's in 3.8.0.
18:22 wizzyrea yea, nengard, is that master or 3.8.0
18:22 nengard master
18:22 wizzyrea then yea
18:22 wizzyrea that's probably the problem bug7248
18:22 wizzyrea bug 7248
18:23 wizzyrea that's 3.9 ;)
18:24 nengard i put master on the bug report - just fyi
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18:46 jcamins Huh. This is kind of interesting:[…]he-libraries-are/
18:50 wizzyrea the big blob in the middle - that's near where I am >.>
18:50 wizzyrea wish they'd left on state lines
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18:51 jcamins If you zoom in the state lines are visible.
18:51 jcamins Barely.
18:51 chris_n whew... is not for the weak of stomach
18:51 * chris_n puts on his hip-waders
18:51 jcamins chris_n: no it isn't. That's why you're rewriting the cataloging interface with datatables and jeditable. :)
18:52 chris_n better get the scuba gear on too :)
18:56 cait :)
18:56 cait perhaps more one of those biohazard protection suits?
18:56 cait not sure how they are called
18:57 * cait waves
18:57 jcamins hazmat suits.
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19:12 pastebot "chris_n" at pasted "Upgrading from Koha to for anyone interested" (123 lines) at
19:14 druthb o/
19:14 jcamins chris_n: how long did it take?
19:15 chris_n < 1m for
19:16 jcamins Cool.
19:22 cait francharb++
19:23 chris_n jcamins: 2 min and counting for remove_items_from_biblios
19:23 chris_n 11K+ items in this db
19:23 jcamins chris_n: yeah, that part is going to take a while.
19:44 oleonard have a good weekend everyone
19:45 * oleonard waves
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19:51 rangi check this out my peeps
19:52 jcamins What's checkstyle?
19:53 jcamins Oh, wow.
19:53 jcamins I like that.
19:56 chris_n http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.8.x/clover/?
19:56 chris_n ouch ^^
19:57 jcamins Yeah, I noticed that.
19:57 chris_n otherwise nice
19:57 jcamins I figured rangi hadn't finished configuring it.
19:58 chris_n remove_items_* finally finished up a moment ago
19:58 jcamins 38 minutes?
19:58 chris_n just about that
19:59 chris_n giving zebra a kick now
19:59 rangi yeah the main coverage report is still here
19:59 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]8.x/HTML_Report/?
20:00 chris_n this is a dress rehearsal for my production upgrade after 8.0.1 is released :-)
20:01 nengard left #koha
20:01 * chris_n cheers rangi on
20:01 jcamins chris_n: you're upgrading this month?
20:02 rangi but the clover one will track over time, so we can see improvements, like the checkstyle and tests one do
20:02 chris_n yup, now that I have the one local feature forward ported
20:02 * libsysguy is moving to 3.8.1 when the time comes
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20:05 chris_n well, that appears to have gone smoothly
20:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #9 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED)
20:05 chris_n we'll let the catalogers get at it before doing the production db, though
20:05 * chris_n heads out
20:05 * rangi is busy installing unbound on his laptop
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20:47 rangi yay, all running dnssec now
20:49 jcamins No DNS poisoning for rangi!
20:50 rangi :)
20:50 rangi local caching is nice for speed too
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20:56 jcamins rangi: yeah, that's one thing that was a step backward when I switched to OSX.
20:56 jcamins Bug 5184
20:56 wahanui Bug 5184 is the priority
20:56 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
20:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #9: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.8.x/9/
20:58 jenkins_koha colin.campbell: Bug 6335 Set branch in sip session
20:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6335 normal, P3, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions
20:58 rangi
20:58 rangi see on the right
20:59 rangi now we get a trend
20:59 rangi incentive to get those lines moving up :)
20:59 jcamins Heh.
21:01 rangi heh
21:01 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/file.-556650809/
21:01 jcamins Yeah, just about every method triggers that.
21:02 jcamins It's rather depressing.
21:02 rangi it hates C4::Search :)
21:02 jcamins It has lots of company in that club.
21:03 rangi i think its one we can trend down too, its nice to keep an eye on
21:20 * rangi really wants bug 7998 in 3.8.1
21:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7998 critical, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , 3.8 UI cleanup, tweaks to new styles
21:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #10 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:20 rangi i hope it gets pushed to master soon
21:21 jcamins I thought it was signed off.
21:21 jcamins I guess there were more patches.
21:23 wizzyrea well I kept getting requests to tweak stuff
21:24 wizzyrea this last one I think covers everything everybody wanted though
21:24 wizzyrea it's not like we can't fix it once it's in if it's wrong somehow
21:25 rangi exactly, and it moves things forward
21:25 rangi soon as its in master ill put it in 3.8.x
21:29 wizzyrea It needs a stinky sign off though.
21:29 * wizzyrea mutters.
21:36 jcamins If I get a chance, I will try to sign off on it.
21:37 rangi thanks jcamins
21:37 wizzyrea that would be SO COOL
21:37 wizzyrea basically, take a tour throughout he staff client without
21:37 wizzyrea then take a tour with
21:37 wizzyrea in a couple of browsers
21:38 wizzyrea there's really nothing super controversial in there anymore.
21:38 SJeffery Don't forget us poor folks on IE :)
21:38 wizzyrea I don't think I did anything that makes IE mad
21:38 wizzyrea not in the patch for 7998
21:39 rangi using IE on the staff interface has a bunch of issues, but none of them are to do with 7998
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22:01 * chris_n thinks paul_p should just push bug 7998 and move forward... we can tweak forever
22:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7998 critical, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , 3.8 UI cleanup, tweaks to new styles
22:02 chris_n but some of it fixes stuff that was just plain broken from the word go
22:02 rangi chris_n++
22:04 jcamins chris_n++
22:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #10: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/10/
22:13 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 7870 : Replace itemnumber by barcode in links of patron modification log
22:13 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Welcoming Lyon 3 team as a committer, and adding 3.8.0 release
22:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Stable , Replace itemnumber by barcode in links of patron modification log
22:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #11 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:15 rangi i need to push some unit test to make the lines move!
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22:23 rangi
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23:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #11: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/11/
23:05 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [16]
23:05 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8048 - better spacing on categories for attributes
23:05 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7842 - Inconsistencies in Notices interface
23:05 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7877 - note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish
23:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , DataTables in Koha
23:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8048 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , better spacing on categories for attributes
23:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7842 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Inconsistencies in Notices interface
23:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7877 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish

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