IRC log for #koha, 2012-04-29

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13:01 drojf good day #koha
13:04 cait hi drojf
13:04 drojf hi cait :)
13:04 cait :)
13:06 drojf did something change regarding zebra in 3.8? most of my indexes do not work with syntax idx=x&q=y anymore, but they do with q=x:y
13:07 cait hm not sure
13:08 cait or don't know
13:08 drojf maybe i just made something wrong after the update
13:13 jcamins_away drojf: no, no change.
13:15 drojf i was asked whether i wanted to keep my record.abs while upgrading and said yes. seems like it is just not used.  i just saw that the one index that still works is a default. i'll go and clean up the folder
13:16 jcamins How did you customize your record.abs?
13:17 jcamins @later tell mtj You should QA bug 7248.
13:17 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
13:20 jcamins Okay, I don't think I'll be redoing bug 7387, at least not just now.
13:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes
13:25 jcamins Wait... does anyone know about the "Saved results" feature in the reports module?
13:25 jcamins Where did it come from?
13:26 cait i think it might be related to the scheduler?
13:26 cait you mean the one that's already there, the column?
13:26 jcamins Yes.
13:26 jcamins Oh, do you mean it isn't new?
13:26 cait yeah, something dead and unused (I hate those things)
13:26 cait nope
13:26 jcamins Ah.
13:26 jcamins Okay.
13:26 jcamins Thanks.
13:26 cait very old
14:01 jcamins Uh-oh.
14:02 jcamins Yay! I found my saved reports!
14:02 cait oh?
14:03 jcamins Yup. :)
14:10 jcamins Can I get you to sign off on bugs 7248 and 7249 again?
14:10 cait yes
14:10 cait but ask again in 2 hours or so
14:10 jcamins :)
14:10 jcamins Okay.
14:11 cait and I might need help activating caching
14:11 jcamins :)
14:13 jcamins If anyone feels like signing off on bugs 7248 and 7249, that'd be awesome!
14:15 jcamins @later cjh I squashed all your patches for bug 7249 together because I they didn't apply and I had to make the changes over.
14:15 huginn jcamins: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
14:15 jcamins @later tell cjh I squashed all your patches for bug 7249 together because I they didn't apply and I had to make the changes over.
14:15 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
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16:27 jcamins It's about two hours later.
16:28 cait and I was looking for you! :)
16:28 cait let me finish dinner and I am ready to test
16:28 jcamins Yay!
16:34 * jcamins reflects again how his life would be better if C4::XSLT were replaced with Koha::Template::Plugin::XSLTMarc
16:35 cait jcamins: rangi had something about xslt - you should ask him :)
16:36 jcamins Yup, got it.
16:38 jcamins My life would also be better if "regular" mode were done as a TT include.
16:38 cait regular mode?
16:39 jcamins Non-XSLT.
16:39 jcamins Whatever we call it.
16:41 cait ok
16:41 cait you could make it
16:41 jcamins Yes, I was just pondering that.
16:41 cait you know... this is all open source... free software... ;)
16:42 jcamins But the first thing I need is for someone else to sign off on bugs 7248 and 7249.
16:42 jcamins Wait, no, my sign off for 7248 should stand.
16:42 jcamins It's 7249 that needs another sign off.
16:42 jcamins I forgot, the only thing I did with 7248 was remove unused code.
16:43 cait ok
16:43 cait creating a branch
16:44 jcamins :)
16:44 cait but be patient :)
16:44 cait I am a bit slow today
16:44 jcamins Me? Impatient?
16:45 cait right, hard to imagine :)
16:49 jcamins I see why rangi stopped work on this.
16:50 jcamins C4::XSLT is just too horrifying for words.
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16:54 pastebot "jcamins" at pasted "cait: for your koha-httpd.conf" (3 lines) at
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19:08 * slef concludes he needs to mess with the handling of the alreadyres flag to add the bug 7717 enhancement
19:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7717 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Multiple Identical Holds
19:11 cait hi slef
19:17 slef hi cait I'm off to dinner, back 2200 local (1h45ish)
19:17 cait have a nice dinner
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20:20 cait morning kathryn
20:20 kathryn Hi there cait  : )
20:20 cait :)
20:21 jcamins You know what is required?
20:21 cait more cookies?
20:21 jcamins Exactly.
20:21 jcamins Specifically, ginger oatmeal chocolate chip cookies.
20:21 cait :)
20:22 cait mmh
20:22 jcamins I don't have crystalized ginger today.
20:23 jcamins Oh, and I pretty much finished the fresh ginger two days ago.
20:26 cait oh
20:26 cait perhaps another recipe
20:26 cait ?
20:26 jcamins I think I have powdered ginger.
20:26 jcamins I hadn't found a recipe for ginger oatmeal chocolate chip cookies yet.
20:26 jcamins I'm in the process of making it up.
20:26 kathryn hi jcamins, you don't need a recipe!
20:26 jcamins Yes, grated I have.
20:26 kathryn ah good : )
20:27 jcamins Not grated. Powdered.
20:27 jcamins Sorry, those are very different things. :)
20:27 jcamins kathryn: well, a recipe would be nice, but I'll adapt what I know.
20:27 kathryn yup : )  I meant to say "ah good" to your recipe creating.
20:27 kathryn yeah I do the same
20:28 jcamins I'll adjust this one, I think:[…]ate-chip-cookies/
20:28 jcamins Except, of course, sans coconut since I'm out.
20:28 jcamins And with powdered ginger.
20:28 jcamins And maybe some cocoa powder.
20:29 kathryn ooh, I've heard of chilli in sweet things but not curry before
20:29 jcamins Those are *amazing*.
20:29 jcamins Ask wizzyrea.
20:30 kathryn will do : )
20:30 jcamins wizzyrea: curried coconut chocolate chip cookies... are they not amazing? :)
20:31 kathryn don't think she's here
20:31 kathryn on sat I went to make bread (my mum told me flour needed to be white) I had to use 1 c white, 3 c wholemeal and 1 c gluten free just to find enough to fill the recipe!
20:31 kathryn was still nice
20:31 jcamins kathryn: for curried coconut chocolate chip cookies, she's liable to pop by. ;)
20:31 kathryn : D
20:32 jcamins I have learned that "all-purpose flour" can actually be replaced by practically any flour, once you get good at a recipe.
20:32 kathryn agreed! my bread wasn't the same of course, but it's still good!
20:36 jcamins What kind of yeast do you use?
20:37 jcamins I started out with the fast-acting dry yeast, then switched to active dry, but cait says that fresh yeast is vastly superior.
20:37 cait heh
20:37 cait I like it better at least
20:37 cait still astonished you can't buy that
20:38 jcamins Well, I think I might be able to buy it at a specialty market we visited the other day.
20:38 kathryn I've only ever used dry, but I fresh is usually best now I'm curious to try!
20:39 kathryn you can make your own sourdough starter by the way
20:39 jcamins kathryn: you can *try*.
20:39 * jcamins had no luck at all with that.
20:39 kathryn mine died
20:40 kathryn hehe
20:40 jcamins So did mine.
20:40 jcamins All...
20:40 jcamins uhhh...
20:40 jcamins 6 of them?
20:40 kathryn hahaha
20:40 jcamins 9.
20:40 jcamins I bought a bit of pre-grown starter and that lasted for a long time.
20:40 jcamins Then I killed it by going away on vacation for too long.
20:40 jcamins Oops.
20:40 kathryn I only tried once and it almost worked (1 puggy bread attempt) but then got distracted and it went off
20:41 kathryn I think I just learned that I'm shy on irc someone talks about food....
20:41 kathryn *unitl someone talks about food....
20:41 jcamins It lasted a good six months, though, before I killed it, so I'll probably buy another starter when I'm ready to go back to sourdough.
20:41 kathryn :  )
20:42 jcamins kathryn: good, you have your priorities straight. :)
20:46 cait now we know how to make you talk :)
21:09 * jcamins wanders off to make cookies.
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21:44 mtj morning #koha
21:50 jcamins Good morning, mtj.
21:50 jcamins There are a couple of patches in the QAQ that are right up your alley. :)
21:57 eythian kathryn: I brought back some curry chocolate from Malaysia last year.
21:59 mtj jcamins: yep, will do.. :)
21:59 eythian jcamins: cheers for those signoffs yesterday.
21:59 jcamins Bug 7249 is particularly cool.
21:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Report webservices
21:59 jcamins eythian: you're welcome. What were they for?
21:59 jcamins Oh, right, package stuff.
22:00 jcamins I tried building a package for 3.9 and ran into problems. ;)
22:00 eythian yeah, that :)
22:00 eythian oh?
22:00 eythian Or, the one those patches fix?
22:01 mtj haay - i wrote a munin-plugin to track Koha's bugzilla , last-nite...
22:01 jcamins Right.
22:01 mtj ->[…]koha_bz_head.html
22:01 jcamins That's why I spotted them.
22:02 jcamins I was about to give up in frustration when I remembered seeing a patch on the mailing list.
22:02 jcamins Then I felt foolish. ;)
22:04 mtj any idea on how to 'git commit -amend -signoff' on more-than-one patch?
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22:07 mtj ah, the info here works ok ->[…]gn_off_on_patches
22:07 jcamins mtj: I do `git rebase -i kc/master` and then do `git commit --amend -s && git rebase --continue` for each patch
22:07 kathryn eythian: ooohh
22:08 eythian jcamins: and all they really change is the version numbering :)
22:09 jcamins eythian: yeah, I know, but I was trying to build 3.9 not 3.7.
22:09 jcamins I've been outsmarted by a cooling rack.
22:09 eythian I common problem :)
22:09 eythian *A
22:10 mtj jcamins:  i got there in the end, but i used a pretty goofy process
22:15 mtj hmm, i've got a dupe 'cart' icon on my OPAC, on master
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22:16 mtj known bug - i wonder?
22:17 mtj dupe icon, and 'panier' (french translation) too
22:21 jcamins Not a bug I know.
22:22 jcamins Chocolate ginger cookies were a good idea.
22:23 drojf jcamins: sorry, reallife took me away after investigating my zebra problem. it has somehow vanished after finding an error in the record.abs and reindexing a few times
22:23 Space_Librarian jcamins - now I'm hungry. *sigh*
22:23 drojf chocolate ginger cookies sound like something that is missing in my life
22:23 jcamins Space_Librarian: I recommend chocolate ginger cookies.
22:23 Space_Librarian I may need to go find chocolate ginger caramel slice.
22:25 mtj so, can a QA-person  'pass QA' on a bug that they have previously 'signed-off' on?
22:25 jcamins mtj: for simple bugs, yes. For complex bugs, no.
22:27 mtj hmm, upgrading jquery is complex - i'll leave QA to someone else...
22:27 jcamins Good plan.
22:29 jcamins Oooooh.
22:29 jcamins A *timeline*
22:30 jcamins I could do a timeline of catalogs.
22:30 jcamins Easily.
22:30 jcamins And MIT has that cool timeline project.
22:30 Space_Librarian all that wibbley wobblily timey wimey stuff?
22:30 Space_Librarian sounds interesting.
22:31 jcamins SIMILE it's called.
22:32 jcamins (a.k.a. really cool)
22:32 drojf i did a local timeline of online news articles, it's pretty nice and easy to use
22:32 drojf with the MIT thing i mean
22:32 eythian
22:33 mtj i have a koha timeline project happening too
22:33 * jcamins may have to do a demo timeline of his test database.
22:33 jcamins mtj: just think how cool a timeline showing the age of your collection would be!
22:33 * Space_Librarian oogles with awe at the coolness of the timeline
22:33 jcamins And, you know, depressing.
22:33 mtj it sounds like we should share our data :)
22:34 jcamins Agreed.
22:34 jcamins Now if only there were a feature in Koha that would make it easier.
22:34 jcamins Ooooooooohhhhhhh... there's one in the works.
22:34 jcamins Bug 7249!
22:34 wahanui i heard bug 7249 was particularly cool.
22:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Report webservices
22:34 jcamins Which depends on bug 7248.
22:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Signed Off , Caching for services
22:34 mtj ooooh, ive seen that SIMILE thing before :)
22:34 jcamins Both of which mtj is simply *dying* to QA.
22:35 eythian
22:35 jcamins eythian: lol
22:35 eythian[…]falls-to-serfdom/ <-- World Falls to Serfdom.
22:37 mtj ooh, prior art for man-thong!
22:38 mtj ... profit?!?
22:38 Space_Librarian eythian: that is gold
22:52 jcamins Woo, let's see what books were published between the start of WW1 and the end of WWII!
23:01 jcamins Okay... this is an issue.
23:01 jcamins I just broke my reports module.
23:08 mtj ooooh, something useful for Koha from SIMILE ->
23:09 mtj its flash :/  but still...
23:12 mtj and some nice js graphing libraries for Koha circ and indexing, too ->[…]simile/index.html
23:24 jcamins Okay, I need to turn an array of JSON into JSON with semantic information.
23:26 jcamins Or, there's always plan B.
23:28 jcamins Okay, fetchall_hashref doesn't do anything like what I was expecting.
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23:29 ronald Hello Koha:)
23:31 mtj hiya ronald
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23:32 ronald hi there mtj:)
23:33 * jcamins wonders if any javascript experts are around.
23:36 jcamins o.O
23:36 jcamins It... worked...
23:37 jcamins Wow is that cool.
23:39 jcamins Anyone who isn't jazzed about bug 7249 should take a look at this:
23:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Report webservices
23:41 mtj wooo, /me jazzed!
23:41 jcamins And anyone who is jazzed about it should also look and reflect on how incredibly cool it is.
23:42 jcamins :)
23:43 mtj a similar item-acquisition graph would be useful too
23:50 jcamins mtj: yep.

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