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Space_Librarian |
hey all, I'd like to introduce one of my awesome staff to the channel - miltsNZ is going to set the library world on fire one of these days. So it's good to have him online. :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
hi miltsNZ |
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miltsNZ |
hah cheers for the overstated intro :) |
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jcamins_away |
Welcome to #koha, miltsNZ. |
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Space_Librarian |
not by much. :p |
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miltsNZ |
I'm actually just having my first real play in the Koha MARC frameworks and was curious about something I couldn't find documentation... |
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miltsNZ |
does anyone know if it's possible to set up a framework which will autopopulate certain fields with some pre-set information every time you create a record using that framework? |
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rangi |
using plugins yep, but you'd have to write the plugins |
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miltsNZ |
e.g. creating a framework for course papers, and wanting a specific entry in the 540 field to be added automatically |
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miltsNZ |
ah cheers |
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miltsNZ |
a little beyond my purview atm |
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druthb |
o/ |
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bag |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi, bag! |
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druthb |
how's the BEST BOSS EVAR doing tonight? |
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druthb |
wahanui: bag? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE BASEBALL |
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* druthb |
nods. |
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jcamins_away |
Space_Librarian: tell miltsNZ that you can do that by setting the default value in the framework. |
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jcamins_away |
I do it all the time. |
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jcamins_away |
Woohoo! Third most signoffs in 3.6.4! |
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Space_Librarian |
jcamins_away: I will - thanks so much! He was pretty impressed with the IRC - he'll be back. :) |
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jcamins_away |
:) |
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* druthb |
squees and waves at Space_Librarian. |
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Space_Librarian |
:D hey druthb! |
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druthb |
:D |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya bag |
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* druthb |
waves to Amit_Gupta. |
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* druthb |
updates her first stable test server to 3.6.4. |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya druthb |
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* druthb |
updates two more, Just Because. |
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Space_Librarian |
Adieu, until tomorrow! :) |
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eythian |
is it possible to make item types show up in the search results? Insofar as this question makes sense... |
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eythian |
I know the MARC item type shows up, but that's next to useless. |
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mib_c56cpx |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, mib_c56cpx |
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mib_c56cpx |
can anybody help me |
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eythian |
I don't know. Can they? |
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mib_c56cpx |
i want my users to login using their google apps email id |
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mib_c56cpx |
is it possible? |
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eythian |
hmm. Not that I'm aware of. |
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eythian |
I have no idea how one would go about authenticating against a google apps account. |
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mib_c56cpx |
ok.. |
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eythian |
I assume most bigger places do the reverse, and have google authenticating against some system of theirs, or some such. |
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mib_c56cpx |
do you have any idea who would be able to answer my question? |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
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mib_c56cpx |
i need this google apps koha integration |
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eythian |
I'm pretty sure I'm right, that it's not currently possible. However if you want to be sure, best email the koha users mailing list. |
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mib_c56cpx |
whr can i find that |
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eythian |
If there's a way to implement it, I'm sure you'd be able to find someone willing to do the development. |
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eythian |
wahanui: email lists |
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wahanui |
eythian: sorry... |
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eythian |
oh |
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eythian |
one moment... |
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eythian |
wahanui: mailing list |
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wahanui |
i guess mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
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eythian |
ah, there we go. |
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eythian |
mib_c56cpx: ^^ |
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mib_c56cpx |
thanks wahanui |
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eythian |
wahanui: thanks wahanui is <reply>You're very welcome, $who |
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wahanui |
sure thing eythian |
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stuartyeates |
rangi: know anyone who might be interested in http://vacancies.vuw.ac.nz/pos[…]detail.asp?p=6057 ? |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya cait |
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cait |
hi Amit_Gupta |
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eythian |
hrm, the data normalisation on the tags tables seems quite unusual to my eye. |
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cait |
heya eythian - you are back :) |
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eythian |
yep |
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eythian |
hello |
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eythian |
so when you hover over a tag in the tag cloud, it pops up a number. This number isn't the number of items (which is what I expected), it's the weight given to that tag, which is a function of the number of items. That's pretty odd. |
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cait |
eythian: I haven't played aroudn with it really |
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cait |
owen did work on something tag related |
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cait |
to highlight your own tags in the tag cloud |
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eythian |
I had someone ask me why the numbers didn't match up, she expected the hover number to be the number of items tagged with that tag. |
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eythian |
damn, I was hoping it'd be an easy fix to provide the number of items, but it's surprisingly not. |
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cait |
the tags tables are a bit weird |
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eythian |
they are. It looks like they're structured that way for speed, but I would suspect some well thought out indices would allow the same speed but with a better structure. |
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* cait |
nods |
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eythian |
also the "tags" table is empty |
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cait |
I had the same thought |
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cait |
only explanation is speed, because else it's really weird |
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eythian |
which is silly, unless its for something else. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
we have approved and rejected |
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cait |
and all tags or something right? |
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eythian |
tags_all, tags_approval, and tags_index are all used |
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eythian |
there's a tag_id which should be used but isn't, instead the term seems to be used as an ID. |
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eythian |
which is generally considered bad form |
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cait |
ew |
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pastebot |
"eythian" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "Weirdo tags tables" (79 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/291 |
| 07:09 |
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eythian |
that's what they look like with some test data in there. |
| 07:09 |
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cait |
interesting tags :) |
| 07:09 |
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eythian |
yeah, it's a not-yet-live client who has just been messing about to see how they work |
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cait |
yeah, they are weird |
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cait |
why does tags_index have the bilbionumber and the weigt? |
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eythian |
it's a reduction of tags_all |
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eythian |
if more than one person tags something the same, it increases the weight |
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cait |
aha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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eythian |
I think the approval table and the _all table are canonical, and _index and tags_approval.weight_total are derived from that. |
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eythian |
I'm not sure why they're not linking up on tag_id |
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* eythian |
goes home |
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eythian |
see you |
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eythian |
hi alex_a, bye alex_a. |
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magnus_afk |
kia ora #koha |
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cait |
morning magnus :) |
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magnuse |
guten morgen cait |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (8:00 AM CET on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
soon! |
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magnuse |
2 weeks! |
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wahanui |
hmmm... 2 weeks is good |
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magnuse |
you lucky people |
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cait |
you will give an amazing presentation instead :) |
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magnuse |
nah, don't count on that |
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cait |
oh, I don't have to count on it.. I know it. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
hey, reiveune |
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rangi |
hi europe |
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cait |
hi nz |
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marcelr |
hello koha |
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gaetan_B |
good morning #koha! |
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rangi |
wow, that guy is persistent, help me with this fork, help me |
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rangi |
i know i downloaded the wrong version, but help me anyway |
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sophie_m |
hello #koha |
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hdl1 |
hi |
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marcelr |
hi] |
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marcelr |
s/]// |
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rangi |
marcelr: i wonder for bug 7310 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 normal, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
| 08:20 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ for being patient and polite |
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rangi |
you might want to publish a branch |
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rangi |
and just keep that up to date, and get ppl to do pull of it? |
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rangi |
might be easier for you to keep up to date? |
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paul_p |
hello world |
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magnuse |
chris_n++ for 3.6.4 |
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rangi |
hi paul_p |
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marcelr |
hi paul_p; bug 7310 welcomes your revisiting it |
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marcelr |
:-) |
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paul_p |
marcelr yes, i've seen |
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paul_p |
will try to work on it today, but I already have many patches to push |
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marcelr |
;) |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya paul_p, magnuse |
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magnuse |
namaste Amit_Gupta |
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* rangi |
is running out of patience, that will be my last email, someone else can take over |
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marcelr |
oops |
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paul_p |
rangi ??? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
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magnuse |
gah |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
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marcelr |
rangi++ |
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paul_p |
ok, I think I get it = archer thread |
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rangi |
ahh mailing list paul, you'll see it :) |
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rangi |
yep |
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marcelr |
he wants to deploy community version now ;) |
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rangi |
getting there :) |
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rangi |
just fighting the fud that it has no support |
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magnuse |
marcelr: not "community version", just Koha ;-) |
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rangi |
and that :) |
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marcelr |
sorry.. |
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marcelr |
:-) |
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clrh |
hello |
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marcelr |
hi |
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magnuse |
bonjour clrh |
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magnuse |
marcelr: i find myself thinking that way every so often too, but i try not to ;-) |
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marcelr |
good |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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marcelr |
hi kf |
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halfie |
hi, I have deleted some fields shown while "adding MARC records". Now fewer fields are shown but they are still distributed among multiple tabs (0, 1, 2 etc). Is there a way to get a single screen showing all the required fields instead of those multiple tabs? |
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kf |
halfie: be careful - I don't recomment deleting fields from the default framework |
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kf |
better hide them if you don't want to use them or create your own frameworks |
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kf |
halfie: and yes, you can go to administration > bilbiographic frameworks > framework you want to change > marc structure > field you want to change > tab |
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halfie |
kf: I have created a new framework from which I have deleted those fields. |
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kf |
if you are more familiar with the right values the export options for frameworks are nice |
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kf |
you can edit them in libreoffice calc for example |
| 09:46 |
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kf |
that makes it easier to change in bulk |
| 09:46 |
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kf |
halfie: ok, that's ok then, but check out the hidden field |
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kf |
you can also jsut hide fields |
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kf |
morning marcelr |
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halfie |
kf: now I have 5-6 fields in my newly created "Book" framework but still they are distributed among multiple tabs. How do I disable this tabbing behaviour on "add new MARC records" page? |
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kf |
the tabs are configuration |
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kf |
It's not done by the number of fields |
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kf |
but an attribute of the configuration of each field |
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kf |
if you want to change that, you have to go back and change the tab value for the field |
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kf |
by default the 0xx fields show up on 0 tab, the 1xx on 1 etc. to make it easier for the cataloger |
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halfie |
kf: I tried changing the Tag value (not the tab value) for fields but the GUI doesn't save my changes somehow. |
| 09:48 |
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kf |
you have to tell the system for each field on which tab it should show |
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kf |
the tab is under advanced otpions |
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kf |
when you look at the subfields |
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kf |
there are 0-9 + 10(items) - don't change items |
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halfie |
kf: understood, I did what you said and it worked :) .. thanks. |
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kf |
:) |
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halfie |
kf: changing the tag for every sub-field is a PITA though. |
| 09:53 |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
easier to do in sql |
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magnuse |
kf++ |
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kf |
or using the export options for frameworks |
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kf |
styling the browse feature is quite annoying |
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halfie |
I have deleted a book but it still appears in search results. Do I have to run the full zebra re-indexing process again? |
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hdl1 |
yep |
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kf |
halfie: have you set up your cronjobs to reindex regularly? |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya hdl1 |
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hdl1 |
hi Amit_Gupta |
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slef |
what's the zebra index containing marc data? |
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slef |
like kw is keywords IIRC |
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slef |
in other words, what's the bit before the , in bulkmarcimport -match to match MARC tags :) |
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slef |
or in the search box to search a MARC tag |
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slef |
morning #koha btw :) |
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slef |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html |
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slef |
answered my own question I think. Asking beggar to test |
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slef |
what's a nicer word for someone requesting a donation than "beggar"? :) I'm having a tact fail this Monday morning (yeah, what's new, you say) |
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jcamins_away |
slef: you can't search arbitrary MARC tags at present. |
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slef |
jcamins_away: being able to search the indexed ones is good enough for them I think. |
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jcamins_away |
slef: "panhandler"? "mendicant"? "supplicant"? |
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kf |
hi slef morning jcamins_away |
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* jcamins_away |
favors "supplicant." |
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jcamins_away |
magnuse: have I mentioned to you that we should markup the OPAC details page to include semantic information about the record? Embedded RDF, perhaps. |
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kf |
hi drojf :) |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi kf :) |
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slef |
jcamins_away: be nice. Co-ops donate to charities ;) |
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slef |
(or at least this one does... can't speak for NYC housing co-ops ;-) ) |
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* oleonard |
listens for the sounds of jcamins_away's derisive laughter |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: was that suitable? :) |
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magnuse |
jcamins_away: don'tt hink you have mentioned it, but definitely interesting! RDFa, i think? |
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jcamins |
magnuse: yes, that's what I meant. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: i have made some progress on converting records to RDF with https://github.com/digibib/marc2rdf , storing them in this triplestore: http://data.libriotech.no/semantikoha/ and enriching them with this script: https://github.com/MagnusEnger[…]er/arc2-client.pl |
| 13:41 |
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magnuse |
hope to have a poc of enhancing the opac with the data this week |
| 13:41 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
| 13:41 |
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jcamins |
magnuse++ |
| 13:41 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 13:45 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: I think we also should have <link>s specifying alternate representations. |
| 13:45 |
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jcamins |
This is on my todo list. Along with about a billion other things. |
| 13:47 |
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magnuse |
hehe, sounds like a good idea, though |
| 13:48 |
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magnuse |
jcamins: you might want to add signing off bug 7092 to the list ;-) |
| 13:48 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly |
| 13:48 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I just did. |
| 13:48 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
| 13:52 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, you know what today is? Today is the day paul_p gets to push 7284! Lucky paul_p! |
| 13:53 |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
| 13:53 |
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jcamins |
:D |
| 13:53 |
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magnuse |
bug 7284 |
| 13:53 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. |
| 13:53 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 13:53 |
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paul_p |
lol :D |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: you're so lucky... the second thing you have to push is a fun patch! :D |
| 13:54 |
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* paul_p |
fear that won't be for today, as I've other things I *must* do today, sorry jcamins |
| 13:55 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: in that case you can do fun things tomorrow! :D |
| 13:55 |
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magnuse |
lucky paul_p! :-) |
| 13:59 |
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* paul_p |
afk for a meeting |
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kf |
jcamins++ |
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| 14:11 |
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kf |
wb drojf |
| 14:11 |
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jcamins |
kf: what did I do? |
| 14:11 |
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drojf |
damn university wifi :/ |
| 14:12 |
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kf |
how is the migration? |
| 14:13 |
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kf |
drojf: talking to you :) |
| 14:13 |
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drojf |
downloading a file with 20k, impressive :D |
| 14:13 |
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drojf |
slow |
| 14:14 |
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drojf |
want to have a test import before next monday |
| 14:14 |
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drojf |
so the ladies can check while i get some holiday |
| 14:14 |
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kf |
:) |
| 14:15 |
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drojf |
i guess we will not care for authorities now, i want to have something running in april |
| 14:15 |
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kf |
real holiday? or only working on something else? |
| 14:15 |
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drojf |
well. holiday from my two jobs, working on things for university so i can finally write my thesis |
| 14:16 |
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drojf |
not real holidays i'm afraid |
| 14:16 |
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kf |
yes, doesn't sound like one |
| 14:17 |
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drojf |
can i search for several things in one search sting in koha? like "give me all results with x in this field or y in some other field"? |
| 14:17 |
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drojf |
*search string |
| 14:18 |
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magnuse |
drojf: you can choose "or" between fields in advanced search |
| 14:20 |
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drojf |
thanks magnuse you're right of course. some things are just too obvious |
| 14:21 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 14:24 |
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* kf |
hands out cookiews |
| 14:24 |
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kf |
cookies even |
| 14:24 |
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kf |
it's monday |
| 14:24 |
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magnuse |
yay, monday cookies! |
| 14:24 |
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marcelr |
great |
| 14:24 |
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drojf |
woohoo cookies |
| 14:25 |
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kf |
lol |
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* marcelr |
leaves the room quietly, waving |
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| 15:03 |
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wizzyrea |
7001 too :) |
| 15:05 |
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hdl1 |
bug 7001 |
| 15:05 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , User Configurable Slips |
| 15:10 |
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kf |
hi wizzyrea |
| 15:10 |
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* kf |
saves some cookies for you |
| 15:10 |
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* wizzyrea |
has girlscout cookies |
| 15:10 |
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wizzyrea |
thin mints! |
| 15:10 |
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* wizzyrea |
wonders if it's legal to ship them to germany |
| 15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
also, germany is awesome |
| 15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/cata[…]roducts/40134347/ |
| 15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
er no |
| 15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]k/~3/jHXCUJg1YQk/ |
| 15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
that |
| 15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
nice table tho. |
| 15:11 |
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kf |
ikea :) |
| 15:15 |
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kf |
wizzyrea? |
| 15:15 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE SCIENCE! or KOREAN |
| 15:15 |
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wizzyrea |
ok, that's probably confusing for people |
| 15:15 |
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wizzyrea |
forget wizzyrea |
| 15:15 |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea |
| 15:21 |
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kf |
wizzyrea? |
| 15:21 |
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kf |
! |
| 15:21 |
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kf |
wizzyrea is <reply> I LIKE SCIENCE |
| 15:21 |
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kf |
wizzyrea? |
| 15:21 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE SCIENCE |
| 15:21 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 15:21 |
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kf |
better :) |
| 15:31 |
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oleonard |
chris_n around? |
| 15:38 |
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* oleonard |
has filed Bug 7643 |
| 15:38 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7643 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Can't upload and import zipped file of patron images |
| 15:40 |
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kf |
oleonard++ |
| 15:43 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry I meant to do that on friday >.< |
| 15:43 |
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wizzyrea |
but thanks oleonard |
| 15:44 |
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* wizzyrea |
hunts around for signoffs to atone. |
| 15:44 |
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oleonard |
...because you could see into the future when someone would post that to the list? |
| 15:44 |
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wizzyrea |
he came here first asking about it I think |
| 15:44 |
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kf |
yes, there was swomeone asking abou tit |
| 15:44 |
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wizzyrea |
either way I was looking at that on friday |
| 15:45 |
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oleonard |
But anyway, signoffs? Bug 7629, Bug 7633. Nice 'n' easy. |
| 15:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7629 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update sco.css to include CSS Gradients and prevent error upon missing background image file. |
| 15:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7633 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move display of patron image in self checkout |
| 15:45 |
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wizzyrea |
check. :) |
| 15:45 |
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wizzyrea |
also |
| 15:45 |
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wizzyrea |
test plan? |
| 15:45 |
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wahanui |
make me a test plan or I no test! |
| 15:45 |
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wizzyrea |
kekekekeke |
| 15:46 |
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wizzyrea |
j/k |
| 15:46 |
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wizzyrea |
I can test those wihtout a test plan |
| 15:46 |
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oleonard |
Both have instructions for testing :P |
| 15:46 |
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wizzyrea |
really that wasn't directed at you :) |
| 15:47 |
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wizzyrea |
but I wanted the response for test plan to be something a bit more... urgen than "test plans are nice" |
| 15:47 |
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wizzyrea |
urgent* |
| 15:48 |
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* kf |
is closing oooooold acq tickets from our libraries |
| 15:48 |
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* kf |
loves 3.6.3 :) |
| 15:48 |
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wizzyrea |
because the problems are all fixed? |
| 15:48 |
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kf |
yep |
| 15:48 |
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wizzyrea |
WIN :) |
| 15:49 |
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kf |
yep |
| 15:49 |
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kf |
are you aware of any problems with attaching items to other records? |
| 15:49 |
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wizzyrea |
! no? |
| 15:49 |
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kf |
I don't think there is a known problem right? |
| 15:50 |
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kf |
we had one case... where the xml was not updated properly |
| 15:50 |
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kf |
and the item appeared in both records... |
| 15:50 |
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kf |
after reindexing |
| 15:50 |
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kf |
I will just assume that's also fixed |
| 15:50 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm no I hadn't heard about that |
| 15:50 |
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wizzyrea |
that sounds... flukey |
| 15:50 |
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kf |
yes, had problems reproducing it |
| 15:51 |
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kf |
but had exmaples where it happened |
| 15:52 |
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wizzyrea |
busy library? |
| 15:52 |
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kf |
hm not really |
| 15:52 |
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* wizzyrea |
suspects a locked table or something where an update didn't happen when it was suppseed to |
| 15:53 |
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jcamins |
UTF-8 in the call number? |
| 15:53 |
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kf |
jcamins: possible |
| 15:53 |
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wahanui |
possible is, like, everything, but I think it's probably easy to miss something here |
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* wizzyrea |
waves at sekjal |
| 15:54 |
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wizzyrea |
hi :) |
| 15:54 |
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sekjal |
hi, wizzyrea |
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kf |
hi sekjal :) |
| 15:56 |
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sekjal |
hi, kf! |
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* wizzyrea |
goes on a tab closing frenzy |
| 16:00 |
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wizzyrea |
ah, that's nice. Down to 5. |
| 16:06 |
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reiveune |
bye |
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| 16:10 |
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* paul_p |
head for pushing some bugs... |
| 16:10 |
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paul_p |
bug 3516 first |
| 16:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Display picture of patrons in OPAC |
| 16:11 |
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paul_p |
(from oldest to newest QA) |
| 16:12 |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
| 16:12 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: woohoo! Maybe you do get to have fun today! :D |
| 16:13 |
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paul_p |
your bug is 2nd on my list ;-) |
| 16:13 |
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wizzyrea |
I wish git commit --amend -s would also add [Signed Off] to the first line of the commit. |
| 16:13 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: I know. :) |
| 16:13 |
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* wizzyrea |
is so lazy. |
| 16:14 |
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wizzyrea |
also, http://spheredev.org/wiki/Git_for_the_lazy |
| 16:14 |
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wizzyrea |
because, i couldn't resist that title. |
| 16:14 |
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wizzyrea |
it may be crap. |
| 16:15 |
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* paul_p |
bet that, with a git config one achieve that. Or maybe a hook |
| 16:15 |
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* wizzyrea |
is looking now, because that extra 5 seconds of typing stuff that i'm likely to forget is cramping my stlye. |
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wizzyrea |
style* even. |
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hdl1 |
paul_p: wizzyrea investigate git-alias |
| 16:16 |
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wizzyrea |
oh holy snaps. |
| 16:16 |
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wizzyrea |
hdl++ |
| 16:16 |
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wizzyrea |
good one. :) |
| 16:17 |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea share if you are successfull ;-) |
| 16:18 |
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wizzyrea |
boo except that kernel.org is still down where they keep all of the examples. |
| 16:18 |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph. |
| 16:19 |
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maximep |
lazy++. I have bash aliases to only do "gci" to do a "git commit" |
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* oleonard |
uses "ckm" for "git checkout master" |
| 16:21 |
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* jcamins |
has been typing everything out. |
| 16:21 |
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wizzyrea |
http://cheat.errtheblog.com/s/git |
| 16:21 |
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jcamins |
Maybe I should write a "qa nnnn" script. |
| 16:22 |
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wizzyrea |
also looks like you can do longish things with aliases as well: http://gitready.com/intermedia[…]mand-aliases.html |
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wizzyrea |
ooooo |
| 16:23 |
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wizzyrea |
http://robots.thoughtbot.com/p[…]flow-with-aliases |
| 16:23 |
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wizzyrea |
this looks promising. |
| 16:24 |
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wizzyrea |
specifically |
| 16:24 |
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wizzyrea |
up = !git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master |
| 16:24 |
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wizzyrea |
or cob = checkout -b used like git cob qa-xxxx |
| 16:25 |
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mveron |
Hi everybody #koha |
| 16:26 |
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paul_p |
and now, ladies and gentlemen... pushing 7284 ... (or not, just to see jcamin angry ;-) ) |
| 16:26 |
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jcamins |
I like the idea of `git qa 1234`=git fetch kc && git checkout -b bug_1234_qa kc/master && git-bz apply 1234 |
| 16:26 |
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* wizzyrea |
throws confetti |
| 16:26 |
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* jcamins |
is sure this is the high point of paul_p's day. :) |
| 16:26 |
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jcamins |
Certainly the high point of mine. :) |
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bag |
good morning |
| 16:27 |
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sekjal |
morning, bag |
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bag |
hey ian |
| 16:30 |
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kf |
morning bag |
| 16:30 |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
| 16:30 |
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wahanui |
i think morning is a state of mind. |
| 16:30 |
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jcamins |
wahanui: Monday? |
| 16:30 |
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wahanui |
i think Monday is better |
| 16:31 |
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oleonard |
Better than what? A kick in the teeth? |
| 16:31 |
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jcamins |
Well, isn't it? |
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| 16:41 |
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Shane-S |
For a patron there is the "library management" section w/ Sort 1 and Sort 2 fields, are the just for the library to use in say reports, or do they have a more specific purpose? |
| 16:42 |
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oleonard |
For any arbitrary purpose |
| 16:42 |
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Shane-S |
awesome, needed to add grade level and teacher for a fines report...now I can play :) |
| 16:43 |
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Shane-S |
Every day I think I am nearing 100% to using Koha and I learn "one more thing" the library needs to have in place :P |
| 16:43 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 16:43 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 123 |
| 16:43 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 16:44 |
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wizzyrea |
just wait until they start inventing things they need it to do |
| 16:44 |
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wizzyrea |
that's when it gets really fun. |
| 16:44 |
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wizzyrea |
"oh hey, we have some control here, can you make it vomit ponies?" |
| 16:44 |
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wizzyrea |
"because that's really what I want" |
| 16:45 |
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Shane-S |
Yes...it can vomit out all the books with the word ponies....then hand them a PERL book :) |
| 16:45 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ this |
| 16:46 |
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paul_p |
jcamins could you give me some details about "* Correctly destroy ZOOM recordsets in SearchAuthorities when finished. If left |
| 16:46 |
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paul_p |
undestroyed, efficiency appears to approach O(log n^n)" ? |
| 16:47 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: yeah, exactly what it sounds like. The ZOOM library has a destroy() function that the authority search wasn't calling. |
| 16:47 |
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jcamins |
Therefore, we were leaking memory like mad. |
| 16:47 |
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paul_p |
don't we have the same problem with bib search ? |
| 16:47 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: uhhh... |
| 16:47 |
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kf |
hm |
| 16:48 |
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jcamins |
I think I checked and found that we were destroying the query. |
| 16:48 |
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kf |
I have suggestion on but no suggestions form shows up in my opac? :( |
| 16:48 |
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kf |
oh found it |
| 16:48 |
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jcamins |
(the way we should be) |
| 16:48 |
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* paul_p |
think he remembers hdl speaking of something like that (leaking memory when linking authorities & biblio automatically). |
| 16:48 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: yeah, that was due to this bug. |
| 16:48 |
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paul_p |
jcamins doesn't the destroy result in a big lowering of performances ?( |
| 16:48 |
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paul_p |
because opening a connection is costly) |
| 16:49 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: no, we're not destroying the connection. |
| 16:49 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: ZOOM has a really weird API. |
| 16:49 |
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jcamins |
You have to destroy *each* resultset. |
| 16:49 |
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paul_p |
jcamins really ? no... you must be kidding... zebra/zoom are so handy to deal with |
| 16:49 |
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jcamins |
Even though they are invalid as soon as you leave scope. |
| 16:49 |
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paul_p |
(yes, *I* am kidding ;-) ) |
| 16:49 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: ;) |
| 16:50 |
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Shane-S |
okay...I'm confused...searched for a Patron and the results of more then one showed, in the category it showed Student (C) when I go to view then it has Student (KID) .... (KID) I expect, it is my code, where does the (C) come from? Perhaps I bug I need to report? |
| 16:50 |
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kf |
C is probably the category type |
| 16:51 |
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kf |
which means Child |
| 16:51 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: it used to be a run of the linker took three days for 110k records. |
| 16:51 |
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paul_p |
(you know, we're having our annual meeting one-to-one with all BibLibre staff. 2 things are shared by all = "i'm happy to work at BibLibre, it's a cool company" and "well, i need more info on zebra, because it's un-understandable" ) |
| 16:52 |
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jcamins |
Now it takes six hours, thanks to the addition of the destroy(). |
| 16:52 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 16:52 |
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paul_p |
wow ! impressive ! |
| 16:52 |
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Shane-S |
kf: Ah okay, was odd seeing it different between screens |
| 16:53 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: yeah, I was pretty impressed! |
| 16:53 |
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paul_p |
(I think the 1st point is sincere, i'm sure the 2nd point is ;-) ) |
| 16:53 |
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oleonard |
Something I'm working on: http://screencast.com/t/Rh7hOc21Z9 |
| 17:02 |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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kf |
time to leave - bye all! |
| 17:07 |
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kf |
oleonard: pretty cool :) |
| 17:08 |
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maximep |
anyone using misc/cronjobs/build_browser_and_cloud.pl with marc21 ? I have no idea what to pass to -t and -f |
| 17:13 |
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jcamins |
maximep: I have no idea, sorry. |
| 17:13 |
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maximep |
docs says 676a in UNIMARC for dewey for example |
| 17:13 |
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maximep |
let's see if that does anything |
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* paul_p |
wife call me. family time now. See you tomorrow #koha ! |
| 17:21 |
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wizzyrea |
bye paul_p |
| 17:21 |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: very cool on the tags. |
| 17:22 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: qa = !sh -c 'git checkout master && git pull && git checkout -b bug$1-qa && git bz apply $1' - |
| 17:22 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: nice! |
| 17:22 |
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sekjal |
can be adapted as needed to change how the checkouts work, or the branch is named |
| 17:22 |
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maximep |
oh, looks like it's 082 in marc21 Not sure about the subfield :/ |
| 17:23 |
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wizzyrea |
oh sekjal <3 |
| 17:23 |
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wizzyrea |
that is awesome |
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sekjal |
could probably do an 'so' alias for signoffs, too |
| 17:24 |
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jcamins |
Yeah... more keypresses saved! |
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sekjal |
by abstracting the process, the usage becomes more consistent |
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wizzyrea |
something like |
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wizzyrea |
so = !sh -c 'git commit --amend -s && git bz attach -e $1 HEAD' - |
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sekjal |
you may not need to the !sh -c wrapper |
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sekjal |
I had to use that to use the $1 variable twice |
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wizzyrea |
if you want the $1 I think you do |
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wizzyrea |
? |
| 17:27 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, twice. |
| 17:27 |
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sekjal |
or I could be mistaken |
| 17:27 |
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wizzyrea |
well, it's in the 2nd command... hm idk. |
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sekjal |
I makea lot of twists and turns trying to nail that one-liner down |
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* wizzyrea |
just took what you did |
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* wizzyrea |
cackles maniacally |
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wizzyrea |
hdl++ |
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wizzyrea |
great idea. |
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sekjal |
could even add the git send-email phase, too |
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sekjal |
since we don't yet have the auto-emailer in place that mtj was working on |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
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sekjal |
aliases++ |
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* wizzyrea |
wants to do one on the bz test bug |
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wizzyrea |
for signoff. |
| 17:31 |
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wizzyrea |
omg it's brilliant. |
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wizzyrea |
o.m.g. |
| 17:32 |
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Shane-S |
<-- is thinking of creating a "print" button the reports page that takes off the SQL statement...by using JS to dynamically add some CSS...hmmm |
| 17:32 |
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wizzyrea |
i just did a git so 6473, it amended my commit, let me obsolete the old patches and sent it |
| 17:32 |
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wizzyrea |
thatis*&$$@)$%amazing |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea++ |
| 17:33 |
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wizzyrea |
life is too short to have non-working pens on your desk. |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
i also added |
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wizzyrea |
up = !git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
so I say "git up" |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
and it does it |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
yee haw, so to speak. |
| 17:34 |
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jcamins |
lol |
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* sekjal |
still wants git -r done to be an official command |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
LOLOL |
| 17:34 |
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magnus_afk |
who's putting this on the wiki? |
| 17:35 |
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sekjal |
I am |
| 17:35 |
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* wizzyrea |
bets you can do it with aliases. |
| 17:35 |
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magnus_afk |
sekjal: yay :-) |
| 17:35 |
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wizzyrea |
:D sekjal++ |
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wizzyrea |
this is what I was looking at mostly: http://robots.thoughtbot.com/p[…]flow-with-aliases |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
hey, sekjal, they have one for interactive rebase |
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wizzyrea |
which is git ir |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
close to git r |
| 17:36 |
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sekjal |
nice |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
oh and a done |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
done = !git fetch && git rebase origin/master && git checkout master && git merge @{-1} && rake && git push |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
(ruby guy, apparently) |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
(could add prove t in there if you wanted) |
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wizzyrea |
(same thing) |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, I should add tests in there. |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
at least the template ones. |
| 17:38 |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* that works, sticking a prove t xt in front of git commit --amend |
| 17:42 |
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sekjal |
so = !sh -c 'prove t xt && git commit --amend -s && git bz attach -e $1 HEAD' - |
| 17:42 |
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wizzyrea |
yep, exactly |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
now, how to get it to prepend the first line with [Signed Off] |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
which was the original reason for this alias adventure. |
| 17:43 |
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Shane-S |
is there a URL value I can pass to NOT show SQL statements in the guided_reports.pl w/ phase = Run this Report, I tried &showsql=0 |
| 17:44 |
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wizzyrea |
not that I'm aware of |
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* wizzyrea |
learns something about git commit -- the -n flag for "no-verify" or "skip hooks" |
| 17:45 |
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wizzyrea |
that makes hooks a lot less annoying. |
| 17:45 |
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wizzyrea |
that will make hooks a lot less annoying. Grammar. geez. |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: no, you'll have to use javascript or CSS. |
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sekjal |
prepending [SIGNED-OFF] to the first line of the commit message was a convention we used larger for the patches list, as I recall |
| 17:48 |
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Shane-S |
yeah...problem is there is no "print media" CSS section through Admin area |
| 17:48 |
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wizzyrea |
so make one :P |
| 17:48 |
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sekjal |
we may need to reevaluate it in a git-bz based workflow |
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wizzyrea |
Shane-S: you know that you can just download the results as CSV or TAB right? |
| 17:49 |
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wizzyrea |
most people just do that if they want to print them |
| 17:49 |
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wizzyrea |
the first question |
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wahanui |
it has been said that the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 17:50 |
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Shane-S |
For me...no problem...for a person who can't login to email....would like to keep it at "Print" |
| 18:05 |
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sekjal |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ify_command_tasks |
| 18:07 |
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Shane-S |
where are template files? using locate .tmpl didn't return anything |
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sekjal |
Shane-S: they're .tt now, and located in koha-tmpl |
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Shane-S |
ah okay thanks |
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maximep |
oh, that git prompt is cooler than mine |
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jcamins |
Maybe I should try that out, see if it is helpful. |
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maximep |
@wunder yqb |
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huginn |
maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is -7.2°C (1:29 PM EST on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising). |
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maximep |
@wunder cyqb |
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huginn |
maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -10.0°C (1:00 PM EST on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
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bag |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.4°C (10:30 AM PST on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
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Shane-S |
okay okay...sometime I have to learn git....but bug 7646 (I submitted my code change) |
| 18:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Printing w/o the SQL Code showing |
| 18:47 |
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Shane-S |
It looks pretty on my print preview :) |
| 18:49 |
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maximep |
maybe just a diff between the original and your modification would be a start |
| 18:50 |
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Shane-S |
I feel kinda happy I have hopefully helped add a little to the project, tiny things I wanted...but hopefully others like and can use it :D |
| 18:52 |
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maximep |
the template could change before someone can take a look at your patch, so attaching a diff would be good |
| 18:53 |
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Shane-S |
how would I do that? |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: git is easy. |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
version control using git? |
| 18:53 |
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wahanui |
well, version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
^^ see that document for an introduction. :) |
| 18:54 |
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maximep |
or just a diff file1 file2 > diff.patch |
| 18:54 |
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maximep |
but a git patch would be btter |
| 18:54 |
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jcamins |
maximep: right, I wasn't answering that question. |
| 18:54 |
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jcamins |
git patch would be much better, because if you just supply a diff, you're gambling that someone else will be interested enough to reformat it into a git patch. |
| 18:55 |
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Shane-S |
I can track my bugs right? |
| 18:55 |
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jcamins |
And if the template changes, git will help resolve the conflicts, whereas diff/patch will not (as I understand it). |
| 18:55 |
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Shane-S |
If so when I get around to setting up my home system I will use git |
| 18:55 |
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jcamins |
You'll now get an e-mail every time someone modifies that report. |
| 18:59 |
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Shane-S |
well it is trackable, so I am good I documented my change well enough for me to make it again if the template does change |
| 18:59 |
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Shane-S |
So hopefully when I get git on my VM at home I can apply a git change |
| 19:05 |
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Shane-S |
how involved would it be to add an input field to a saved report box. I know I can do it via SQL, I just need a variable passed through. I would add it to the WHERE clause |
| 19:07 |
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magnus_afk |
Shane-S: have you seen http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#reportfromsql ? |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: I think that's already done. |
| 19:08 |
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jcamins |
Where you use double angle brackets. |
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* oleonard |
wonders how the git so alias handles bugs with multiple patches |
| 19:14 |
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wizzyrea |
hm probably doesn't |
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jcamins |
oleonard: not so well. |
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jcamins |
If it were really clever, it would do a git status to get the number of patches, and then loop through them. |
| 19:16 |
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wizzyrea |
or squash them |
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wizzyrea |
as part of it |
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wizzyrea |
that would probably be something like "git squash" |
| 19:16 |
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* jcamins |
prefers preserving multiple patches. |
| 19:17 |
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jcamins |
Use git ri if you are sure you want them squashed. |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't care so much as long as I've authored them all |
| 19:17 |
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wizzyrea |
or I have permission from the followupper. |
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* jcamins |
either, but often you'll be testing a patch by one person, and a follow-up by someone else. |
| 19:17 |
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jcamins |
Remember, I am *very* lazy. |
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wizzyrea |
lol - laziness to rival my own no doubt. |
| 19:19 |
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sekjal |
patches that can be tested separately should be kept separate. If multiple patches depend on each other to work, then I can squashing them |
| 19:19 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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wizzyrea |
I hate it when you can't test a patch without another one applied first. |
| 19:19 |
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wizzyrea |
but I deal :P |
| 19:19 |
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sekjal |
I've thought about labeling my multiple patches on a bug with [Step 1], [Step 2], etc |
| 19:20 |
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sekjal |
and perhaps parallel patches could be [Step 1a], [Step 1b], etc |
| 19:20 |
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sekjal |
though if I'm going to get that fine-grained, I suppose I should just file separate reports |
| 19:22 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, idk how best to handle that |
| 19:22 |
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wizzyrea |
sort of thing. |
| 19:23 |
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sekjal |
I'm a big fan of small, easy to test patches |
| 19:23 |
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sekjal |
not always possible, but nice when it is |
| 19:23 |
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jcamins |
I went with monolothic for bug 7284 because people were starting to get annoyed at the number of patches. |
| 19:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 19:23 |
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jcamins |
Also, I kept on rewriting history. |
| 19:24 |
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jcamins |
Easier to say "okay, create a new branch and apply this one patch" than "okay, create a new branch and apply thirty patches." |
| 19:25 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, that's a huge feature. We did the same with 7001 |
| 19:25 |
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wizzyrea |
went for monolith. |
| 19:25 |
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wizzyrea |
or srdjan did |
| 19:25 |
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wizzyrea |
(bless his patient heart. I keep saying it because it's true) |
| 19:27 |
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Shane-S |
magnus_afk / jcamins : Says it is limited to branches, itemtypes, and categorycode, I need borrowers sort1 sort2 |
| 19:28 |
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sekjal |
ah, that reminds me, bag was asking me to look at bug 7641 on Frida |
| 19:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves. |
| 19:28 |
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Shane-S |
nm that is for drop downs |
| 19:30 |
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Shane-S |
sweet that is awesome! |
| 19:31 |
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Shane-S |
Thanks guys...FYI Koha is massive, you should have Koha Certification classes to pay yourselves and make the project $$ :P |
| 19:32 |
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Shane-S |
Just start that after I learn more first ;) |
| 19:34 |
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wizzyrea |
Koha *is* massive. |
| 19:36 |
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cait |
every ILS is I think |
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magnus_afk |
@get quote 123 |
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huginn |
magnus_afk: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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jcamins |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 19:37 |
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magnus_afk |
thanks jcamins |
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magnus_afk |
@dunno |
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jcamins |
magnus_afk: I thought Shane-S might not have been able to translate that into a quote. ;) |
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huginn |
magnus_afk: I suck |
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* magnus_afk |
wanders off |
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Shane-S |
Would the 3.2 Manual apply to 3.6, I need the PDF to print out for my Librarian so we can earmark and notate things we need, have done, or will do. |
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oleonard |
It will apply where they are the same. It won't apply where they are different. |
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wizzyrea |
I thought they were generating pdf's for that |
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Shane-S |
apparently I lost wifi...I missed the response |
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oleonard |
Shane-S: It will apply where they are the same. It won't apply where they are different. |
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wizzyrea |
and "I thought they were generating pdf's for that" |
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wizzyrea |
ping rangi - is jenkins still generating the pdf's for the manual? |
| 19:54 |
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wizzyrea |
or did we stop doing that? |
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wizzyrea |
Shane-S: it's not tooooo difficult to make your own pdf if you use linux |
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wizzyrea |
i might even be nice and make one for you if you ask nicely ;) |
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gmasters |
I just installed koha 3.06.04 and want to migrate my OPAC from OpenBiblio 0.6.1. The CSV report doesn't give full MARC records just my in-house accession numbers, call numbers, titles and collection names. Is there are a well-documented procedure that will help me complete the migration |
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wizzyrea |
oh wow. |
| 19:56 |
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wizzyrea |
we had a library go from openbiblio -> koha, but we didn't do the migration ourselves. |
| 19:56 |
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wizzyrea |
marcedit, you will need it :/ |
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bag |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.6°C (11:55 AM PST on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). |
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gmasters |
I do have that. Am I going to have to use my CSV listing from OpenBiblio and re-pull all my records (I have over 550 volumes in this rapidly growing library!) |
| 19:58 |
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bag |
yeah it's been hot here lately |
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jcamins |
gmasters: just be glad it's five hundred fifty and not fifty-five hundred or fifty-five thousand. ;) |
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gmasters |
Good point. I'll use the CSV and repull. I'll also try to document the procedure I used so that others will have it. OpenBiblio is very inactive. It was fine when I took over the library, but we have been growing exponentially and want to start a consortium of member libraries. |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* openbiblio was the first open source ILS we tried here at NEKLS too (for one small, poor library) |
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wizzyrea |
Koha will be a *much* better fit for you |
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wizzyrea |
in all truth, koha and openbiblio were about equivalent in terms of function at the time. Not anymore though. |
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wizzyrea |
it was years and years ago |
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gmasters |
Our local public library cataloger also recommended it to me highly. |
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oleonard |
When was that wizzyrea? |
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wizzyrea |
let's see, way pre-3.0 |
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wizzyrea |
i remember I looked at koha and it was a lot more confusing than openbiblio |
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wizzyrea |
OB was a lot easier to use then Koha pre-3.0 |
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* Shane-S |
had the same experience in 2008/2009 |
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wizzyrea |
s/than/then/ |
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gmasters |
A few months ago. My wife works for the Sunnyvale Public Library and their cataloger is into OSS even though they use Millenium |
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jcamins |
gmasters: I am a cataloger, but I get a lot of grief about catalogers not liking Koha. |
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wizzyrea |
2005-2006? |
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wahanui |
-1 |
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wizzyrea |
thanks wahanui :P |
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oleonard |
Heh. |
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* wizzyrea |
didn't know he did arithmetic |
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gmasters |
thanks all |
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wizzyrea |
sure, pop back anytime |
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Shane-S |
wizzyrea: So how would one go about making a PDF w/ Linux? |
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Shane-S |
OMG...nearly 400 pages...Add duplexing...200 sheets of paper...hmm...not sure I can bind that :P |
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wizzyrea |
https://github.com/wizzyrea/Sc[…]er/PDF-convert.sh |
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wizzyrea |
you need |
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wizzyrea |
docbook2html |
| 20:07 |
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wizzyrea |
and xhtml2pdf |
| 20:07 |
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Shane-S |
I might just print the key pages we need instead :D |
| 20:07 |
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wizzyrea |
but that's the basic gist. |
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Shane-S |
ah okay thanks wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
that script converts it to html, adds the stuff to each page for pagenumber, tidies, then converts it into pdf |
| 20:08 |
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jcamins |
You can also just print to PDF if you're lazy like me. |
| 20:09 |
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wizzyrea |
or that |
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wizzyrea |
from what, jcamins? |
| 20:09 |
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wizzyrea |
your docbook viewer? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: the website. |
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wahanui |
rumour has it the website is http://www.koha-community.org |
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wizzyrea |
oh you mean page by page? |
| 20:10 |
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wizzyrea |
or section by section I guess. |
| 20:10 |
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Shane-S |
yeah how do you view it in whole? |
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wizzyrea |
it's a git repo, you can just download the source ;) |
| 20:10 |
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wizzyrea |
it's in docbook format |
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jcamins |
There's also a page with the entire manual. |
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Shane-S |
I meant online :P |
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jcamins |
No link to it, though... |
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wizzyrea |
! lol, uh, there is? |
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wizzyrea |
where? |
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wizzyrea |
well shit, dawg. |
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* wizzyrea |
will put a link to it if you provide it :P |
| 20:11 |
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* wizzyrea |
scolds jcamins for holding out |
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* wizzyrea |
taps her toe impatiently |
| 20:11 |
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Shane-S |
so uh...http://koha-community.org/koha-3-6-1/ seems <pre> should be replaced with something that will wrap :P |
| 20:11 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I'm trying to remember. |
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wizzyrea |
oh, in that case take your time >.> |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I used to have shell access. :P |
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wizzyrea |
mhm |
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wizzyrea |
we could just convert it |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: naw, jenkins isnt doing it anymore |
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wizzyrea |
k ty, I coudln't remember |
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wizzyrea |
oh hell I'm in. |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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wizzyrea |
sorry to be sweary today |
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maximep |
anyone remember having problems with the syspref QueryAutoTruncate not working correctly ? |
| 20:16 |
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cait |
hm yes |
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maximep |
set to only if * is added and it shows the same results with or without * |
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cait |
with icu I think |
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maximep |
-_- |
| 20:16 |
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maximep |
how do I find out if i'm using icu |
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maximep |
ah |
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maximep |
zebraisx -V = using ICU |
| 20:17 |
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wizzyrea |
try |
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wizzyrea |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]3.6/en/manual.pdf |
| 20:17 |
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maximep |
-_- |
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cait |
maximep: if you have not actiaved it manually, you are not using it |
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cait |
maximep: and I don't rmember the problem clearly :( could be in twas in combination with one of the other search prefs |
| 20:20 |
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Shane-S |
wizzyrea: thanks, but did jcamins ever jog his memory? |
| 20:21 |
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wizzyrea |
Shane-S: that's probably the link he was thinking of |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: there's no manual.html? |
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* Shane-S |
wonders if wizzyrea toe hurts yet |
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kathryn |
good morning! |
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wizzyrea |
hi kathryn |
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* Shane-S |
notes that .pdf says 3.4 |
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maximep |
yeah, probably a difference in some other pref because same zebra and doesn't work on one |
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* cait |
waves |
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* kathryn |
waves back |
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Shane-S |
jcamins: I tried manual.html, full.html, man.html, complete.html (no luck) |
| 20:24 |
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oleonard |
Man, testing template changes in multiple translations is a pain in the butt |
| 20:24 |
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cait |
oleonard: what are you trying to do? |
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wizzyrea |
Shane-S: I'll just tell you now, a monolith html doesn't exist on manual.k-c.org |
| 20:24 |
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wizzyrea |
there's a pdf, but it looks to be out of date. |
| 20:25 |
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wizzyrea |
(and is a bit ugly anyway) |
| 20:25 |
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maximep |
I guess you could download all the html pages hehe |
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maximep |
wget mirror style :p |
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Shane-S |
oh well, thanks for looking, I can't print the whole thing anyway |
| 20:25 |
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Shane-S |
I will just print out what she asks for |
| 20:26 |
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wizzyrea |
no, your best bet is going to be either convert it from docbook yourself to get a monolith, or wait a bit on me :P |
| 20:27 |
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Shane-S |
oh no....gut check time...apt-get just updated Koha... |
| 20:27 |
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* Shane-S |
wonders if files changed on me |
| 20:29 |
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Shane-S |
wait I think apt-get update just updates the file listings right? |
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Shane-S |
any quick way to check my version? |
| 20:33 |
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wizzyrea |
more -> about koha |
| 20:33 |
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Shane-S |
damn...3.06.02 |
| 20:33 |
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Shane-S |
how do I make it update to 3.06.04? |
| 20:33 |
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Shane-S |
I used packages |
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rangi |
there isnt a package for 3.6.4 yet, it was only released yesterday, wait a couple of days |
| 20:34 |
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rangi |
there is 3.6.3 tho, you could upgrade to that if you wanted to or just wait for 3.6.4 |
| 20:35 |
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Shane-S |
I just want to test if it works and/or breaks my print change |
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rangi |
it will, if you locall modified files |
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rangi |
then it will |
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Shane-S |
yeah I did |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* don't do code changes on a package install. |
| 20:36 |
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rangi |
wether you upgrade with packages or the tarball |
| 20:36 |
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wizzyrea |
do your dev on a git install, submit, qa, then get it back when it makes it in ;) |
| 20:36 |
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rangi |
im pretty sure 50,000 people have said this already, but use git |
| 20:36 |
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rangi |
if you want to do dev |
| 20:36 |
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wizzyrea |
^^^^^ |
| 20:36 |
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rangi |
then deploy to production with packages |
| 20:36 |
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wizzyrea |
trust rangi, we all do. |
| 20:36 |
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cait |
^^^^^ |
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rangi |
i dont |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:37 |
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rangi |
that guys a clown |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 20:37 |
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wizzyrea |
a *brilliant* clown. |
| 20:37 |
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Shane-S |
how does git go to a package...aren't they seperate? |
| 20:37 |
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rangi |
the best way |
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wahanui |
the best way is to make the local sendmail server relay via my google mail service |
| 20:37 |
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wizzyrea |
forget the best way |
| 20:37 |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot best way |
| 20:37 |
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wizzyrea |
silly |
| 20:37 |
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rangi |
get your changes into master, then they will come out in the next package |
| 20:37 |
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rangi |
the 2nd best way |
| 20:37 |
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wizzyrea |
^^^^ |
| 20:37 |
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wizzyrea |
roll your own package |
| 20:38 |
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wizzyrea |
from git. |
| 20:38 |
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rangi |
use debian/build-git-snapshot |
| 20:38 |
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rangi |
to build your own packages |
| 20:38 |
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Shane-S |
rangi...let me ask this....say I have my server from packages (easier install), but I use a home system with git to publish my changes, can my server be tied to my packages? |
| 20:38 |
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* Shane-S |
bear in mind I can even make a install.php file for a basic "hello world" script |
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* Space_Librarian |
pulls out the popcorn |
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Shane-S |
I can't* |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles at Space_Librarian |
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Shane-S |
I only ask that because I won't be making many changes on the server if it is a production system |
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wizzyrea |
^^ smart |
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* Space_Librarian |
shares the popcorn with wizzyrea as they watch rangi be clownish |
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* wizzyrea |
nibbles |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: don't *ever* make code changes on a production system run off packages. |
| 20:40 |
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rangi |
what jcamins said |
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* wizzyrea |
nods |
| 20:40 |
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oleonard |
Since when does the language chooser not reflect the currently-chosen of multiple language variants? (fr-FR, fr-CA) |
| 20:40 |
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wizzyrea |
listen to the sages. |
| 20:40 |
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* Space_Librarian |
agrees |
| 20:41 |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: I thought it was me >.< but it hasn't for a while |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: there are two important corollaries: don't make code changes on a production system, and don't make code changes on a system run off packages. |
| 20:41 |
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rangi |
you make your changes test them on a staging/test system, build and deploy packages to production |
| 20:41 |
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maximep |
just fyi, QueryAutoTruncate didn't work because QueryWeightFields was turned on |
| 20:41 |
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maximep |
looks like a bug to me :S |
| 20:41 |
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wizzyrea |
i assumed I did something wrong with translations. |
| 20:41 |
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rangi |
oh, good catch maximep |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins |
There's an old bug for that. |
| 20:42 |
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maximep |
of course there is :/ |
| 20:42 |
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rangi |
oleonard: i was complaining about that the other day also |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
(being a dumb english speaker and all) |
| 20:42 |
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Shane-S |
okay...I will come back to this when I learn git... |
| 20:42 |
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rangi |
your life will be a million times easier Shane-S :) |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
Shane-S: it's really a lot... easier... than you think |
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* Shane-S |
walks away head down, hands in pockets, kicking dirt :P |
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jcamins |
hdl reported it, I think, but I didn't have time to test to see if it was still an issue. |
| 20:42 |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: see my e-mail to the list about git resources. |
| 20:43 |
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wizzyrea |
also we're here to help, and we like talking about git because every time we talk about it we learn something new |
| 20:43 |
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jcamins |
Actually, I never sent that e-mail to the list. |
| 20:43 |
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wizzyrea |
(that's not even a lie) |
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* jcamins |
doesn't have time to send the e-mail to the list now, so... |
| 20:43 |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: PM me your e-mail address? |
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* Shane-S |
has a Pinky & the Brain moment...are you pondering what I am pondering...how this can pay my salary so I can have the time to learn this... |
| 20:44 |
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wizzyrea |
if you do any kind of coding at all in your job |
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wizzyrea |
it will be great to know git. |
| 20:44 |
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wizzyrea |
not just great. Fabulous. |
| 20:44 |
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wizzyrea |
worth every penny of your salaried time to learn it. |
| 20:45 |
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* Shane-S |
is paid to know everything, do everything, and then explain....I am just a single human in the IT field |
| 20:45 |
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* oleonard |
dusts off git bisect |
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Shane-S |
alright all I have to split, thanks for the help |
| 20:46 |
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Shane-S |
I have to go exchange toners :P |
| 20:46 |
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jcamins |
Okay, time to run off to the printers'. |
| 20:46 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 20:46 |
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jcamins |
Similar tasks for similar times. |
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Shane-S |
lol jcamins yep |
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jcamins |
I'll be back later... much. |
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cait |
bye jcamins |
| 20:46 |
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Shane-S |
49x don't fit our printers, need 49a |
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mveron |
I heard you all, my dev / git installation is ready... It finally runs paralel to the package installation, listens to port 81 and 8081 |
| 20:46 |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
| 20:47 |
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jcamins |
mveron++ |
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rangi |
nice work mveron |
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mveron |
Thanks! I must say I'm a little bit proud.... |
| 20:47 |
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cait |
mveron++ :) |
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mveron |
So I'm keen (ungeduldig) to do my first little step with git. |
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cait |
mveron: branches are your friend |
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cait |
:) |
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mveron |
We need Swiss Francs (CHF) as Currency Format, so I branched out, inserted the code in ascquisitions.pref. Works. What would be the next step? |
| 20:51 |
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rangi |
oh |
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rangi |
what you really want to do |
| 20:51 |
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rangi |
is build a TT plugin, like we have for Dates, for currencies |
| 20:51 |
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wizzyrea |
version control using git |
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wahanui |
version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 20:52 |
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wizzyrea |
specifically http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_on_Koha_with_Git |
| 20:53 |
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rangi |
then the templats can just format the number in the appropriate format, without having to muck around in the .pl files |
| 20:53 |
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rangi |
if you look in Koha/Template/Plugin/ |
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rangi |
you will see a file KohaDates.pm |
| 20:54 |
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cait |
mveron: why in acq.ref? |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]#Displaying_dates |
| 20:55 |
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cait |
the format therer eis hardly used anywhere |
| 20:55 |
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rangi |
be better the i18n tab? |
| 20:55 |
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cait |
what you want to do as a first step is insert it into administration > currencies, set it to 1 and make it active :) |
| 20:56 |
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cait |
rangi: sorry, just started reading back. there is a currency formatting thing in acq |
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mveron |
cait: Because there are choices like US: 360'000.00 (US) , for Euro as well, so I added CH: 360'000.00 (CHF) as additional choice... |
| 20:56 |
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cait |
but it's hardly used anywhere, only on a few screens I think |
| 20:56 |
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cait |
mveron: i doubt it will be enough |
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rangi |
yeah mveron what im saying is currently we do it badly, and if you want formatted currency in the opac, or somewhere else |
| 20:56 |
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rangi |
you have to go touch .pl files |
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cait |
mveron: I think I use FR in our installations, similar enough. but as I said, it's hardly used anywhere for display - that system preference, only a few places in acq |
| 20:57 |
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rangi |
if we had a plugin, that used the syspref |
| 20:57 |
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rangi |
then it would just be touching .tt files |
| 20:57 |
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wizzyrea |
that really would be top notch. |
| 20:57 |
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rangi |
much easier |
| 20:58 |
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cait |
and very easy to add more formats later on :) |
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mveron |
me/ I just want prevent potential Koha-Users in Switzerland to say: "They not even can display our currency". |
| 20:59 |
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cait |
mveron: we never got any complaints if that helps :) |
| 20:59 |
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mveron |
cait: How many Koha-Installations in Switzerland? |
| 20:59 |
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cait |
but it's true, it would be nice if Koha could do it better :( |
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cait |
7 in germany, but it's wrong here too |
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rangi |
yep, i just want us to fix it properly so we dont have to redo this all again for the next currency |
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rangi |
:) |
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* cait |
nods |
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mveron |
Oh... I see. I just wanted to make a little joke about Euro :-) |
| 21:01 |
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cait |
if we get the plugin right |
| 21:01 |
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mveron |
But you are rigt, it should be done à fond. |
| 21:01 |
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cait |
ew could try to insert it into the templates in marseille perhaps |
| 21:02 |
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rangi |
the way the eurozone is going, who knows how long we will have the euro :) |
| 21:02 |
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cait |
could be a good time perhaps to step through lots of templates in a group |
| 21:02 |
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* mveron |
Just wanted to have some small thing to get used to git / patch / etc... |
| 21:03 |
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rangi |
well if you add the syspref and write the logic to format it |
| 21:03 |
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rangi |
ill turn that into a plugin for you |
| 21:04 |
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cait |
not sure if we should reuse the existing pref |
| 21:04 |
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rangi |
you can move it |
| 21:04 |
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cait |
but might be cleaner to add a new pref in i18n? |
| 21:04 |
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rangi |
hmmm 2 prefs for currency? |
| 21:04 |
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rangi |
that might get messy really fast |
| 21:04 |
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cait |
no, get rid of the other |
| 21:04 |
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rangi |
id just move it |
| 21:04 |
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cait |
not sure how that works really |
| 21:05 |
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rangi |
you can move it by just changin what .pref file its in |
| 21:05 |
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rangi |
simple as that |
| 21:06 |
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cait |
talking about the other pref |
| 21:06 |
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mveron |
You would have to extract tohe format string form "EURO: 360,000,00... |
| 21:06 |
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cait |
how it formats and where it's used |
| 21:07 |
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cait |
mveron: that does not look right |
| 21:07 |
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mveron |
rangi: I think 2 prefs would be OK, one to do the formats and one to choose. Anyway, there could be situations where you need e.g. CHF and EURO |
| 21:08 |
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mveron |
So you need to be able to properly format all currencies. |
| 21:09 |
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sekjal |
would need to be able to indicate the formatting style for manually added currencies |
| 21:10 |
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sekjal |
so, a set of formats, and then each currency can be associated with one |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
my first step would be get it in a plugin, and just add CHF to the list koha can format, next step would be to allow arbitrary formats |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
else you are doing it the hardway |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
consilidate code first, then change it |
| 21:11 |
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mveron |
rangi: I agree. |
| 21:12 |
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mveron |
...and add Euro in the same step. I dont'think they want t use CHF in Germany :-) CHF is to heigh :-) (Which is a problem for us). |
| 21:13 |
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mveron |
I propose to file a bug / enhancementfor the currency thing (maybe there is alredy one?) |
| 21:15 |
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rangi |
yeah have a search, and file one |
| 21:15 |
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mveron |
And then look to find a very tiny, little bug/enhancement, because I would like to walk through the whole process... Just for learning... |
| 21:15 |
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mveron |
Ok, Rangi, will seachr & file... |
| 21:16 |
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* mveron |
Should put his glasses |
| 21:17 |
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cait |
tired - night all! |
| 21:18 |
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mveron |
Good night, cait |
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wizzyrea |
gnite cait |
| 21:19 |
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cait |
:) |
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mveron |
rangi: I found Bug 4078 - Display active currency symbol on currency output and input |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4078 trivial, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, In Discussion , Display active currency symbol on currency output and input |
| 22:02 |
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mveron |
Patch by Aleksa Vujicic. Paul Poulin commented: "I think it's the *perfect* candidate for Template::Toolkit plugins." |
| 22:02 |
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mveron |
Aleksa did a lot of work to find where in the code such function would apply (an dadded to patch). |
| 22:02 |
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mveron |
IMHO the sub could be renamed / refactored not only to put a currency Indicator, but do the formatting as well |
| 22:04 |
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maximep |
hmmm and is that patch only for "$" or for "$ CAD" ? |
| 22:05 |
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mveron |
I would need such patch for CHF (Swiss Francs). |
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* Space_Librarian |
eyes her catalogue warily |
| 22:32 |
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mveron |
? |
| 22:32 |
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Space_Librarian |
my catalogue caches, and I have to wait for the hour to see how it looks. |
| 22:33 |
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* Space_Librarian |
and the awesome wizzyrea have been hacking subfields |
| 22:34 |
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mveron |
Oh, my fvorite movie: Some gauge running through, waiting until it is finished |
| 22:34 |
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Space_Librarian |
:) |
| 22:34 |
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mveron |
The Zen of gauge... (or something like this...) |
| 22:34 |
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rangi |
your catalogue caches? |
| 22:35 |
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Space_Librarian |
seeing if we can get the 490a to display as a subtitle in the short form records of the articles... |
| 22:35 |
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Space_Librarian |
it should work |
| 22:36 |
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Space_Librarian |
but it's not showing in the opac yet |
| 22:36 |
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rangi |
ah yep |
| 22:36 |
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rangi |
hmm it should show pretty much instaneously .. is there some kinda proxy between you and the catalogue? |
| 22:36 |
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Space_Librarian |
you would know better than I. |
| 22:37 |
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rangi |
well theres not at our end |
| 22:37 |
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Space_Librarian |
There are many things, Horatio... that work in the staff client and don't quite do it on the opac |
| 22:37 |
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wizzyrea |
memcache wouldn't affect it? |
| 22:37 |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't know how it works |
| 22:37 |
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* Space_Librarian |
doesn't either |
| 22:37 |
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wizzyrea |
(in practice) |
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rangi |
you did it with keyword to marc mappings? |
| 22:37 |
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* Space_Librarian |
nods |
| 22:38 |
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rangi |
do you xslt display switched on for both ? |
| 22:38 |
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* Space_Librarian |
looks at wizzyrea |
| 22:38 |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
| 22:38 |
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Space_Librarian |
yup. Checked that |
| 22:38 |
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rangi |
then nope no idea, theres no caching of detail pages at this end |
| 22:38 |
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wizzyrea |
results either |
| 22:38 |
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Space_Librarian |
oh geez. this just keeps getting better. |
| 22:39 |
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wizzyrea |
http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]l?q=naruto&limit= |
| 22:39 |
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wizzyrea |
this is what ours looks like with the subtitle/volume keywords on |
| 22:40 |
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wizzyrea |
as far as I've been told you can stick any marc field in those mappings and it'll show up where the subtitle goes |
| 22:40 |
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wizzyrea |
also: we should make more keywords. |
| 22:40 |
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Space_Librarian |
and that looks good |
| 22:40 |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
| 22:40 |
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Space_Librarian |
more keywords. yes |
| 22:41 |
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rangi |
whats a good search to test with Space_Librarian ? |
| 22:41 |
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Space_Librarian |
emar2012 |
| 22:41 |
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Space_Librarian |
all the articles we're about to promote |
| 22:43 |
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rangi |
so 490 is the series statement right? |
| 22:44 |
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Space_Librarian |
yup. |
| 22:44 |
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Space_Librarian |
490a |
| 22:46 |
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rangi |
interesting |
| 22:46 |
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Space_Librarian |
that's never a good sign. |
| 22:47 |
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rangi |
the only Other Title in the xsl for the opac is for 246 |
| 22:48 |
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* Space_Librarian |
looks blankly at rangi |
| 22:48 |
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Space_Librarian |
I thought I'd changed that |
| 22:48 |
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rangi |
no not you, is in the xsl im just seeing where the subtitle bit is referenced in the xsl |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
and its not |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
the reason it shows up for liz |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
is this |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
<xsl:if test="marc:subfield[@code='b']"> |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
<xsl:text> </xsl:text> |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
<xsl:call-template name="subfieldSelect"> |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
<xsl:with-param name="codes">b</xsl:with-param> |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
</xsl:call-template> |
| 22:49 |
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rangi |
</xsl:if> |
| 22:50 |
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Space_Librarian |
ah-ha. |
| 22:50 |
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rangi |
its showing the 245b |
| 22:50 |
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rangi |
because the xsl is telling it to |
| 22:50 |
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wizzyrea |
we show the p and n and 490v as well |
| 22:50 |
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wizzyrea |
and afaict they all show... or maybe they don't. |
| 22:50 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 22:50 |
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Space_Librarian |
:s so confuzzed |
| 22:50 |
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rangi |
nothing to do with keywords tho |
| 22:50 |
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rangi |
the xslt has no idea about that |
| 22:51 |
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Space_Librarian |
coolio |
| 22:51 |
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wizzyrea |
we have those all mapped in keyword -> marc mapping, they didn't show before, and now they do? THis seems odd to me based on what you're saying |
| 22:51 |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/Bmc9rmebYlNK |
| 22:51 |
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rangi |
can you show me one of that has 490 showing in your result list? |
| 22:52 |
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wizzyrea |
like so |
| 22:52 |
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wizzyrea |
sec |
| 22:52 |
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rangi |
do you have xslt on liz? |
| 22:52 |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
| 22:53 |
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wizzyrea |
and nothing special afaik |
| 22:53 |
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rangi |
cos looking at the code, nothing in here looks for keywords |
| 22:53 |
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rangi |
but if you can find one with a 490v showing i can find out how its oding it |
| 22:53 |
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wizzyrea |
k sec |
| 22:55 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry, lol, takes a sec to find one I had to ask ^.^ |
| 22:57 |
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rangi |
http://library.nzica.com/cgi-b[…]iblionumber=34847 <-- Space_Librarian i can see the 490a here .. so its just the results page you want it? |
| 22:57 |
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wizzyrea |
ok don't be mad - the v doesn't show in the opac |
| 22:57 |
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rangi |
hehe |
| 22:58 |
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wizzyrea |
but it does in the intranet :) |
| 22:58 |
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rangi |
not mad, just way less puzzled |
| 22:58 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 22:58 |
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rangi |
xslt is different there |
| 22:58 |
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Space_Librarian |
yeah, we sorta need it in the results page. |
| 22:58 |
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Space_Librarian |
it's fine in the full record |
| 22:58 |
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rangi |
because results in intranet ... doesnt use xslt :) |
| 22:58 |
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rangi |
lemme try something |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
moar keywords :) |
| 22:59 |
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rangi |
(there is no results xslt for intranet) |
| 22:59 |
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rangi |
so it uses normal, which does keywords xslt doesnt, and never has |
| 22:59 |
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rangi |
http://library.nzica.com/cgi-b[…]rch.pl?q=emar2012 |
| 23:00 |
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rangi |
thats normal results display in the opac, and now, we have subtitles |
| 23:00 |
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wizzyrea |
hrm |
| 23:00 |
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rangi |
so there are 2 options, go with normal |
| 23:00 |
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rangi |
MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl |
| 23:01 |
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rangi |
to display 490 |
| 23:01 |
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wizzyrea |
not so keen on intranetxslt then bc our librarians lurve the subtitles |
| 23:01 |
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wizzyrea |
+ volume stuff |
| 23:01 |
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wizzyrea |
and series info |
| 23:01 |
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rangi |
yep you can of course make the xslt show them |
| 23:01 |
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rangi |
but it has to be something everyone wants to upstream it |
| 23:01 |
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rangi |
Space_Librarian: that link was for you |
| 23:01 |
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wizzyrea |
I simply cannot imagine that people would *not* want to see the subtitles in results |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 123 |
| 23:02 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 23:02 |
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Space_Librarian |
gotit. Ta! :) |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
but there is that. |
| 23:02 |
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* wizzyrea |
sighs |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
well we have "link to custom xslt" now |
| 23:02 |
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Space_Librarian |
it is mad. |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
don't we? |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
so you can make your own and get rid of it if you don't like it :P |
| 23:03 |
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Space_Librarian |
Our reference librarian loves |
| 23:03 |
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Space_Librarian |
it* |
| 23:03 |
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rangi |
not yet we dont |
| 23:03 |
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wizzyrea |
oh it's 5. |
| 23:03 |
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wizzyrea |
ha |
| 23:04 |
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Space_Librarian |
Yet the & are displaying as & in the titles on the opac. |
| 23:04 |
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wizzyrea |
that was a bug |
| 23:04 |
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Space_Librarian |
Our cataloguer is having a heart attack. This is hilarious. |
| 23:05 |
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rangi |
just switch back to xslt |
| 23:05 |
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rangi |
oh wait i just did |
| 23:05 |
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Space_Librarian |
wizzyrea++ |
| 23:05 |
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rangi |
back how it was |
| 23:05 |
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Space_Librarian |
rangi++ |
| 23:05 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 7535 |
| 23:05 |
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Space_Librarian |
awesome. |
| 23:05 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7535 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , OPAC displays ampersands incorrectly. |
| 23:05 |
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wizzyrea |
fixed now though |
| 23:06 |
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Space_Librarian |
rofl |
| 23:06 |
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rangi |
so probably what you want is the 490(all subfields) to display in the xslt |
| 23:06 |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
| 23:06 |
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Space_Librarian |
you turned it back on, and we lost the 490a lol |
| 23:06 |
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rangi |
yes |
| 23:06 |
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rangi |
like i said you can have xslt |
| 23:06 |
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rangi |
or the 490a |
| 23:06 |
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rangi |
at the moment |
| 23:06 |
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Space_Librarian |
Okay. |
| 23:06 |
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Space_Librarian |
I need lunch, and I will think on it. |
| 23:07 |
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wizzyrea |
or you can go up to 3.6 4 and get that tiny patch >.> |
| 23:07 |
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* wizzyrea |
cackles |
| 23:07 |
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rangi |
yep or tht |
| 23:28 |
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| 23:54 |
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Space_Librarian |
orly... |
| 23:55 |
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rangi |
that would fix the amp issue, so you could use normal view in the results page |
| 23:55 |
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Space_Librarian |
the thing is... could it display on the next line... |
| 23:55 |
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rangi |
but you might like the icons etc that you get in xslt |
| 23:55 |
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rangi |
it could if you made the xslt display the 490 |
| 23:56 |
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rangi |
not using the keywords method |
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ky |
Hi All, Does anyone here have any experience with Koha + Vufind ? |
| 23:59 |
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rangi |
not me |
