IRC log for #koha, 2012-02-11

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01:19 jcamins_away Yay! The peppermint fudge is setting!
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03:14 wizzyrea I just had kind of a crazy idea for bugzilla
03:14 wizzyrea "like" or "me too" for comments or bugs.
03:15 wizzyrea a "like" like function
03:15 wizzyrea I'll just leave that here.
03:22 jcamins_away wizzyrea: we already discussed that.
03:23 jcamins_away I mean, you and I did.
03:23 jcamins_away I think we concluded it would be very useful.
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03:53 wizzyrea I was looking at 7536 and I wa nted to "hell yea" on "added a command line switch so original function is preserved"
03:58 wizzyrea also you'll like this :
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06:00 cait good morning #koha
06:11 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:11 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -10.0�C (7:00 AM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1030 hPa (Falling).
06:42 rangi evening
06:48 cait evening rangi
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09:01 mib_hd2fxx hi
09:01 mib_hd2fxx sa
09:01 mib_hd2fxx can anyone tell me about koha's irc
09:01 mib_hd2fxx ?
09:02 cait what do you want to know?
09:04 mib_hd2fxx can i integrate with my own koha server
09:04 mib_hd2fxx ?
09:05 cait sorry, I don't understand your question
09:14 mib_hd2fxx ok tnx
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09:31 cait hi mbalmer
09:33 mbalmer morgen!
09:33 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:33 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -9.7�C (10:29 AM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Steady).
09:33 cait brr
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09:36 cait hi talljoy
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13:44 jcamins_away Why would you develop a mobile app using C#?
13:49 magnus_away because that's the only language you know?
13:49 magnus_away is now known as magnus_afk
14:18 jcamins_away magnus_afk: I guess so, but what a waste.
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15:28 jcamins_away Anyone around who has worked with VRA Core?
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15:40 sphinx dear all, I have downloaded latest release of koha
15:41 sphinx how come do I have 4.08.23? Does it have to do with liblime packaging?
15:46 jcamins sphinx: yes, the latest version is 3.6.3.
15:46 jcamins sphinx: the Koha website is
15:46 wahanui i already had it that way, jcamins.
15:47 jcamins sphinx: you'll probably want to download Koha (as opposed to the LibLime package), since LibLime doesn't provide support.
15:47 jcamins (unless you pay for it)
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16:56 * magnus_afk doesn't even know what VRA Core is...
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17:08 cait hi #koha
17:08 slef nor does wikipedia
17:09 slef hi cait, bye #koha
17:09 cait hi slef, bye slef
17:09 cait @wunder Konstanz
17:10 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -9.2�C (6:04 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Rising).
17:10 magnus_afk guten tag cait
17:10 magnus_afk @wunder boo
17:10 cait hi magnus_afk
17:10 huginn` magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 4.0�C (1:00 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
17:11 cait I am at least half frozen
17:11 magnus_afk woohoo!
17:11 * cait should move to norway apparently
17:11 magnus_afk oops, i did not mean to "woohoo" your forzenness ;-)
17:11 magnus_afk at the moment, yes
17:11 cait :)
17:11 cait I got my new glasses :)
17:11 magnus_afk but we had windchill in the high 20s not too long ago, remember?
17:11 magnus_afk yay for new glasses!
17:12 cait yay :)
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17:44 jcamins magnus_afk: cait: VRA Core is a metadata standard.
17:44 cait ?
17:44 cait hi jcamins
17:44 jcamins Hello.
17:44 magnus_afk hiya jcamins
17:44 magnus_afk well, then i learned something new today too
17:44 magnus_afk :-)
17:45 * cait is still trying to make the connection
17:46 jcamins cait: it's used by some libraries.
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17:47 cait ok?
17:47 cait I expected you to ask about the authority data matching
17:48 cait but VRA Core?
17:48 jcamins cait: heh. Nothing to do with authority matching. It's one of the metadata standards supported by CollectiveAccess.
17:49 cait I mean that is was kind of unexpected :)
17:49 jcamins Ah.
17:49 jcamins Yes, I suppose it was.
17:49 jcamins :P
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18:07 * magnus_afk wanders off to eat shrimps and homemade kn�ckebrot
18:08 * jcamins doesn't like shrimp, but the knackebrot sounds good.
18:09 YoungPublicLibrarian lol how do you do that?
18:10 cait with a /me at the beginning of the line
18:10 * cait waves at YoungPublicLibrarian
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18:11 * YoungPublicLibrarian thinks that is very cool!
18:11 jcamins :)
18:11 jcamins Good afternoon, wizzyrea.
18:11 YoungPublicLibrarian secondly, what is knackebrot?
18:12 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian:
18:12 * jcamins had to look it up, too. ;)
18:12 YoungPublicLibrarian lol thanks
18:12 YoungPublicLibrarian doesn't sound bad...
18:13 jcamins And it's homemade by magnuse.
18:14 YoungPublicLibrarian lol
18:14 YoungPublicLibrarian I have a question about Koha. Anyone have time?
18:17 cait sure
18:17 cait just ask, never ask to ask :)
18:17 cait normally if someone is around and knows, you will get an anser
18:17 cait and if not, try again later or on the list
18:18 YoungPublicLibrarian lol, okay. Nevermind, just figured out the problem...
18:19 cait YoungPublicLibrarian++ :)
18:22 YoungPublicLibrarian I was messing with the fines section. I thought that I started with 28.00 of fines and wanted to pay just part of it. So I input 4 dollars and then hit submit. When I looked back up it said I owed 10.00 for one book and 14.00 for another for a total of 24.00, so naturally I was thinking "Why didn't it take off the partial value. I had 24.00 dollars of fines
18:22 YoungPublicLibrarian and still have 24.00 dollars of fines. Then I realized I'm bad at math...
18:23 cait heh
18:23 cait happens to me all the time:)
18:26 YoungPublicLibrarian :D
18:28 YoungPublicLibrarian is there any way to write off just part of a fine? Or to delete a fine as an error instead of forgiving it?
18:31 cait yes for part of a fine
18:31 cait no for another thing beside forgive
18:31 cait you could add a note maybe
18:31 * cait goes tocheck the interface
18:32 cait hm
18:33 cait if do a ' pay selected ' you can enter only part of the amount
18:33 cait so select one and click 'pay selected' and enter the amount you want to pay for that fine
18:34 cait it seems not possible to add a note when forgiving, so not sure what to do about errors
18:40 YoungPublicLibrarian okay. So heres a hypothetical situation: We had a fine to a patron's card for a lost book. The fine includes the price of the book and a 5.00 dollar processing fee.
18:41 cait hm
18:41 cait I think there is a workflow for lost items
18:41 cait but I have not worked with that yet - so you might want to ask someone else
18:41 cait I think it's a bywater development
18:42 YoungPublicLibrarian When the patron comes into pay for the fine they bring a brand new copy of the book to replace the one they lost. So we want to take off the item price but still have them pay for the processing fee. Is there a way to pay part of the fine and do something else with the rest?
18:43 cait yeah
18:43 cait you can partial pay it
18:43 cait and writeoff the rest
18:44 YoungPublicLibrarian ah okay. That makes sense. I was thinking about it and trying to write it off first, but that wouldn't let me select an amount, just wanted to write off the entire fine. But if I pay it first then write off the remaining fine it works just fine :/
18:45 jcamins cait: bug 3498
18:45 wahanui bug 3498 is a fairly old implementation that colin updated. It just popped up because I added 'needs signoff'
18:45 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Allow partial fine payments
18:46 YoungPublicLibrarian um...forgive my momentary lack of intelligence, but what's all that mean?
18:47 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: cait was asking about a bug relating to reversing partial payments.
18:47 jcamins The last comment on that bug says there's a problem with reversing partial payments.
18:49 YoungPublicLibrarian ah, that brings up another question. Does the account summary continually keep track of all fine histories? Or does it condense in some way after a while. Because potentially you could have a never ending list of fines for some patrons and that could be a bit frustrating to work with...
18:50 jcamins It does not condense, so far as I know.
18:50 jcamins But I generally don't do much with circ, so I could be wrong. wizzyrea?
18:52 YoungPublicLibrarian wow, if it doesn't it could be a long list if you have a patron that is late and has fines every month for five years...
18:53 jcamins I think it may be paginated- only twenty fines to a page.
18:53 jcamins Again, I could be wrong.
18:54 jcamins Most of the libraries I work with don't circulate.
18:55 YoungPublicLibrarian ah i see...having pages would be a good idea! Thanks for the help everyone!
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18:58 drojf1 hello #koha
19:02 cait hi drojf1 :)
19:02 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:02 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -9.1�C (7:59 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Rising).
19:02 drojf1 hi cait :)
19:04 cait @wunder berlin, germany
19:04 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -7.4�C (7:43 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037.1 hPa (Steady).
19:04 * drojf1 is pleasantly surprised by major coverage of anti ACTA demonstrations by german tv news
19:04 cait hah I win
19:04 drojf1 heh
19:08 YoungPublicLibrarian why are we looking at temperatures of Germany?
19:08 liw Germany is very cool
19:08 liw it's so cool it's borderline cold!
19:09 drojf1 i've been walking around for hours today at. -8° is cold enough for me
19:09 drojf1 s/at//
19:11 drojf1 YoungPublicLibrarian: cait lives in konstanz, i live in berlin
19:12 YoungPublicLibrarian ah i see
19:12 cait koha is global :)
19:12 cait magnuse lives in norway
19:12 cait @wunder boo
19:13 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0�C (7:50 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
19:13 drojf1 damn, bodø is hot
19:14 cait yeah... makes me think about moving there
19:14 sphinx thanks jcamins
19:15 sphinx thanks jcamins
19:15 sphinx @wunder Cairo
19:15 huginn` sphinx: Error: No such location could be found.
19:15 sphinx @wunder Cairo, Egypt
19:15 huginn` sphinx: The current temperature in Cairo, Egypt is 14.0�C (8:30 PM EET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
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21:20 YoungPublicLibrarian Whew...learning Java Programming is
21:20 * cait nods
21:20 cait why are you learning java?
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21:21 YoungPublicLibrarian One of my college courses...
21:22 cait oh
21:23 YoungPublicLibrarian Yeah...right now I have to figure out how to sort an array of numbers and an array of strings using the selection sort method...
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21:35 YoungPublicLibrarian I think the main thing throwing me off is the Array itself. I did great on the rest of the Java code up to this point. Then when they started throwing arrays in there I began to have issues...
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