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hi koha |
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good morning #koha |
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morning koha |
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marcelr |
hi paul_p & alex_a |
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alex_a |
hi marcelr |
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alex_a |
marcelr: do you know about koha and ldap ? |
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marcelr |
not that much |
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:s |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -11.0�C (8:20 AM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -21.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
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marcelr |
@wunder amsterdam |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr |
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huginn` |
marcelr: Error: No such location could be found. |
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marcelr |
? |
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@wunder amsterdam, netherlands |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -9.0�C (8:25 AM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
ooh, that's cold! |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -4.0�C (8:30 AM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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marcelr |
not as in norway |
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magnuse |
marcelr: true |
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magnuse |
still cold in marseille too! |
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marcelr |
for them unusual |
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magnuse |
yeah |
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reiveune |
hello |
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marcelr |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
hi :) |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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marcelr |
hi kf |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
privet, gaetan_B |
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marcelr |
hi gaetan_B |
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asaurat |
hi! |
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kf |
hi marcelr |
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hi kf |
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paul_p |
good morning Europe ! |
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paul_p |
(marcelr & kf mainly) |
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marcelr |
kf: could you check on bug 3264 shortly? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3264 major, P2, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Uncloning a dropdown list in MARC authorities/biblio editor may clear all subfields (see comment 17) |
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marcelr |
hi paul_p |
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kf |
marcelr: sorry not today |
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marcelr |
oops |
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kf |
my glasses are broken, I have a hard time reading my mails |
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* mtj |
waves to europe |
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marcelr |
ok |
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marcelr |
hi mtj |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
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* magnuse |
waves to mtj |
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mtj |
kia ora magnuse , hi all |
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magnuse |
ff 10, eh? moving fast! |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya magnuse |
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Amit_Gupta |
mtj around? |
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magnuse |
hi Amit_Gupta |
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mtj |
i think i have discovered an interesting bug with a Koha.2.2 upgrade , to a Koha-3.4 |
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mtj |
.... the bug happens when running the post-upgrade '/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl' script |
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mtj |
heya amit |
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mtj |
for some Koha bibs with mismatching bib and bib-item numbers, the script does some bib corruption ?!? :/ |
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mtj |
hmm, i do need to re-confirm this.... and make sure its not some glitchy bib data - thats the problem |
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mtj |
i wonder if there might be a s/bib/bibitem/ typo, in the C4::Biblio.pm file, thats causing this even? |
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mtj |
....i'll keep poking till i get to the bottom of it :) |
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magnuse |
happy hunting mtj! |
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mtj |
thanks magnuse, ill report my findings - when finished |
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magnuse |
yay |
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mtj |
well, good news.... :) its buggy bib-data causing my problem, not Koha |
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magnuse |
good news for the rest of us, that is... ;-) |
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drojf1 |
hi #koha |
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kf |
hi drojf1 |
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drojf1 |
hi kf :) |
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kf |
:) |
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drojf1 |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -13.4�C (11:42 AM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.72 in 1040.2 hPa (Falling). |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -9.0�C (12:00 PM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.53 in 1034 hPa (Rising). |
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drojf1 |
coldest night in 25 years last night |
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kf |
eew |
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drojf1 |
yup |
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asaurat |
so now you're warm for 25 more years |
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drojf1 |
heh |
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drojf1 |
they say i's going to stay that cold for a while |
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drojf1 |
not sure how much i like that |
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drojf1 |
@marc 942 |
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huginn` |
drojf1: unknown tag 942 |
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drojf1 |
hm |
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drojf1 |
is there a wikip gae for 942 like this one for 952 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]C21_Holding_field.2C_3.0.x.2C_3.2.x_and_3.4.x_default_-_field_952? |
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drojf1 |
*wiki page |
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drojf1 |
i can only fint it in the indexing part of the deocumentation |
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drojf1 |
find |
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drojf1 |
frozen fingers ;) |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0�C (11:50 AM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder kautokeino |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -30.0�C (7:00 AM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -33.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). |
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drojf1 |
omg |
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magnuse |
they had -37 or something last night |
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kf |
drojf1: only 3 fields I think that are important there |
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kf |
or one |
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kf |
942$c itemtype |
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kf |
is used when you work with recod level itemtypes and as a default for adding new items |
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drojf1 |
yeah that is the ine i am wondering about especially. is it the same as 952y? |
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kf |
item-level_itypes is the pref I think |
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kf |
it's similar |
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drojf1 |
i'm not sure if i understand what that means. what is the difference? |
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kf |
record level itemtypes mean you don't have an itemtype on item level |
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kf |
so all items of the record, have the itemtype of 942$c |
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drojf1 |
ah! |
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kf |
if you use title level itemtypes you can have 1 item for referecne, others avaulable for loan |
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drojf1 |
tool a while |
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drojf1 |
:) |
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drojf1 |
wook. damn keyboard |
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drojf1 |
narf |
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drojf1 |
took |
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kf |
heh |
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kf |
I blame all typos today on my missing glasses |
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drojf1 |
thanks. i understand it now |
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kf |
+ my grumpiness |
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drojf1 |
what happened to your glasses? |
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kf |
they broke into 2 pieces |
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drojf1 |
ouch |
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kf |
yeah |
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drojf1 |
tape them together ;) |
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kf |
they are trying to build a replacement using a reamless frame... hopefully it works |
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kf |
I tried taping, but didn't work |
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drojf1 |
i had a crazy flatmate once that taped his glasses. for a few days until he has a new pair people thought. but he kept wearing them for weeks or months, fixed with blue tape. looked crazy :) |
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kf |
heh |
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drojf1 |
but he could see ;) |
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drojf1 |
@wunder tromso |
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huginn` |
drojf1: Error: No such location could be found. |
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drojf1 |
@wunder tromsø, norway |
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huginn` |
drojf1: Error: No such location could be found. |
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drojf1 |
:( |
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drojf1 |
where does he get the info from? |
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magnuse |
@wunder tromso, norway |
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huginn` |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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drojf1 |
no love for tromsø |
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magnuse |
@wunder tos |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Tromso, Norway is -16.0�C (11:50 AM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -24.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
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drojf1 |
ah! |
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drojf1 |
seems not worse than berlin :) |
| 11:26 |
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drojf1 |
thanks |
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drojf1 |
oj, the windchill does look worse |
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magnuse |
brr |
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drojf1 |
i've seen people riding bikes on the canal near my home yesterday :D |
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kf |
brrr |
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kf |
bye all |
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marcelr |
bye |
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clrh |
hello |
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wahanui |
que tal, clrh |
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clrh |
I have a vocabulary question |
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clrh |
in frensh it is called "communication sur place" or "demande en magasin" |
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clrh |
bookstack |
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cait |
clrh: perhaps closed stacks? |
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cait |
not sure, I don't know french :) |
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cait |
clrh: perhaps when you describe people will have an idea? |
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francharb |
cait, is "book stack" the word commonly used for the room closed to public where a library keep books |
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francharb |
because they can't be issues like "normal" bool |
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francharb |
book |
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oleonard |
"closed stacks" sounds like a good phrase for that |
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francharb |
oleonard, is it the word you used in your library? |
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francharb |
it could be just to store books |
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francharb |
because the library doesnt have enought room to display them |
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oleonard |
If I recall correctly it's the term we used when I worked in a library with that kind of setup |
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francharb |
oki |
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francharb |
thanks! |
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cait |
francharb: closed stacks is what we were told to call it |
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cait |
german libraries do that too - and you have to order available books :) |
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francharb |
thanks cait ! |
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cait |
so someone can go and get them for you, in difference to a holds - which here will only be allowed on checked out books |
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cait |
to a hold |
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francharb |
that's exactly what we are taking about |
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francharb |
talking |
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cait |
francharb: I think french and german libraries are similar - well except for the fine in days thing perhps :) |
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cait |
ok, have to go, bbl |
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francharb |
see ya |
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francharb |
;) |
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oleonard |
So, to recap: Fix for Bug 7493 would be to add foreign key constraints on biblio and borrowers, but trying to do so when deleted biblios or borrowers are referenced in reviews table causes error |
| 14:00 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments" |
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oleonard |
I'm thinking running an update on reviews before doing the update is in order |
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oleonard |
DELETE FROM reviews WHERE biblionumber IN (SELECT biblionumber from deletedbiblio); |
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oleonard |
UPDATE reviews SET borrowernumber = NULL WHERE borrowernumber IN (SELECT borrowernumber FROM deletedborrowers); |
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oleonard |
I am seeking opinions. |
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* oleonard |
taps experimentally on the microphone |
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hdl |
oleonard: how do you call the place where you stock documents in a library ? |
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hdl |
in libraries in france it is called "magasin" |
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oleonard |
Stock documents? I don't understand. |
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collum |
Vertical file? |
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hdl |
you know a room where only librarians can access and bring documents to users ? |
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oleonard |
Is this the same question francharb just asked? I think "closed stacks" is correct |
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lculber |
hello koha. francharb still around? |
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hdl |
oh yeas. |
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hdl |
francharb: beat me. |
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francharb |
? |
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oleonard |
"documents" made me think you meant something other than books. |
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hdl |
francharb: thanks. |
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hdl |
oleonard: could be. |
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francharb |
oleonard, i think that the same question |
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oleonard |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L[…]d_stack_libraries |
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lculber |
francharb: we use closed stacks in archives. Could we help maybe? |
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oleonard |
"A closed stack library contains books and other items that are not available for viewing or browsing by the general public" |
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francharb |
oleonard, that's funny, i checked on wikipedia and found the same page |
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hdl |
k tahnks. |
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lculber |
Most of our collections are circulated through closed stacks. |
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collum |
We store our old newspapers and magazines in closed stacks. Mainly because of space limitations. |
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lculber |
Ours are one of a kind and rare. |
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hdl |
collum: lculber and oleonard thanks |
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francharb |
lculber, collum, one of the libraries we are working with ask us to develop a something to manage the access to the closed stacks |
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francharb |
lculber, collum, but i'm not in charge of this development |
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lculber |
francharb: We allow items to be checked out only for a day and only in a certain room (with a guard) |
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francharb |
so i won't know how it will work |
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hdl |
lculber: hourly loans... is the stuff we are to look and work on |
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francharb |
lculber, and before that? the patron ask for the access? |
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lculber |
francharb: Yes, They do a hold request. |
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francharb |
so you allow hold on available items, tight? |
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francharb |
right? |
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lculber |
francharb: right |
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collum |
If the item we retrieve cannot be checked-out, we just ask the patron to bring it back to the reference desk. Otherwise, our closed stacks have normal circulation periods. |
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francharb |
ok |
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lculber |
francharb: we have some items that are so rare they have to ask for special permission and sign papers, but those are few. |
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lculber |
They still have to do hold request though. Just jump through more hoops. |
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francharb |
lculber, do you only have "special access" books in you library? |
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francharb |
is the archive part of the library? |
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lculber |
francharb: yes. There are books, manuscripts, maps, photos, and audio-visuals |
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lculber |
francharb: if they are rare or fragile or "special" |
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lculber |
francharb: or if the law says they are restricted for some reason there are more hoops to go through |
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francharb |
for the library we are working with, it looks like a little bit more complex since they dont want the patron to be able to place hold on the available books + they have "regular" stacks and 1 day loan is not enought for their needs |
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lculber |
francharb: we have regular books too and files. Those have holds too. But we only allow one day on everything except for staff. |
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francharb |
ok |
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francharb |
i'm going to tell the developer that they can find advices here! ;) |
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lculber |
francharb: So rarely can I contribute anything, I'm very glad to help. |
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francharb |
:) |
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lculber |
Bye, koha! |
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clrh |
thantks cait oleonard francharb for vocab answer (I was afk one hour, sorry) |
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wonders if he will understand zebra before koha has solr |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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hdl |
drojf1: which zebra ? the zebra before dom or after dom :D |
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* druthb |
waves to wizzyrea. :) |
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wizzyrea |
heya |
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wizzyrea |
i'm getting ready to test bug 5166 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea++ |
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* jcamins |
waves to everyone. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
heya |
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wizzyrea |
pft, you can give me karma if I actually get the testing done :P |
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wizzyrea |
(it's still installing!) |
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druthb |
wizzyrea++ |
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* jcamins |
tried testing it but after finding that it seemed to work realized that he hadn't been around long enough to know what exactly zebraqueuedaemon was supposed to do. |
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* druthb |
has reasons of her own for giving wizzyrea extra karma. |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
whoa whoa whoa. |
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* druthb |
snickers. |
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druthb |
@most increased |
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huginn` |
druthb: "rangi": 511, "oleonard": 429, "wizzyrea": 288, "gmcharlt": 284, "chris_n": 262, "cait": 228, "nengard": 206, "sekjal": 196, "jcamins": 171, "paul_p": 166, "kf": 149, "druthb": 140, "magnuse": 129, "slef": 124, "eythian": 79, "hdl": 62, "hdl_laptop": 60, "biblibre": 57, "jwagner": 54, "fredericd": 54, "thd": 45, "kmkale": 44, "atz": 44, "pianohacker": 39, and "larsw": 37 |
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jcamins |
oleonard++ # for his insightful blog that helped with the redesign of http://demo.cplibraries.com/ |
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druthb |
@karma |
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huginn` |
druthb: Highest karma: "rangi" (506), "oleonard" (425), and "wizzyrea" (288). Lowest karma: "<!" (-109), "failed" (-70), and "-" (-41). You (druthb) are ranked 12 out of 1935. |
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jcamins |
@karma |
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huginn` |
jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (506), "oleonard" (425), and "wizzyrea" (288). Lowest karma: "<!" (-109), "failed" (-70), and "-" (-41). You (jcamins) are ranked 9 out of 1935. |
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* druthb |
is gonna have to get back to work on some good ideas--I used to be 9th! |
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oleonard |
Nice work jcamins, that's really snazzy |
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jcamins |
oleonard: thanks. |
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jcamins |
Any further suggestions are welcome! |
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* jcamins |
is particularly proud of the various "Actions" menus. :) |
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tcohen |
is there anyone here that wants to talk about a proposal I have around memoization? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I'd like to hear about the proposal. :) |
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jcamins |
I probably don't know enough to respond. :( |
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tcohen |
I'd like to propose a modification of memoize::memcached so |
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tcohen |
we add a list of references to funcionts that invalidate cache for a specific memoized function |
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tcohen |
and create wrapper functions for those 'writers that invalidate cache' |
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tcohen |
the same way it is done for memoizing functions |
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jcamins |
That sounds very logical to me. |
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tcohen |
we now have memoize_memcached(func_name,...) |
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tcohen |
i propose memoize_memcached(func_name,...,%functions_that_invalidate_cache) |
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jcamins |
This makes sense to me. |
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tcohen |
the memoize::memcached dev told me to take over the lib |
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tcohen |
i'll do some tests and come back |
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tcohen |
just needed a confirmation of anyone that it was worth giving it a try |
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jcamins |
It sounds like a good idea to *me*. |
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jcamins |
But I'm very big on caching. |
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* jcamins |
would cache the results of the XSLT processing if he could. |
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* jcamins |
has been calling for an option for an out-of-band rendering daemon so that he could cache more aggressively without causing any problems for other Koha-ians. |
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jcamins |
Since I'm not writing such an interface yet, I'm not particularly vigorous in my calls. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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hdl |
tcohen: it would be something to consider. |
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hdl |
Consider also caching the results for pages. |
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tcohen |
hdl: I think once we have a proper method for invalidating cached data |
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tcohen |
that would be as easy as memoizing everything we consider can be cached |
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jcamins |
Ooh, this I like. |
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wizzyrea |
so far so good on 5166 :D |
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wizzyrea |
sub-minute zebraqueue processing is pretty great. |
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tcohen |
That's what my librarians think :-D |
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wizzyrea |
would need to put it under load, though. |
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wizzyrea |
you run it in production? |
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tcohen |
it's been year and a half in production here |
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wizzyrea |
holy cannoli. |
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wizzyrea |
I'd love to try it out on NExpress, but I can certainly confirm that it works as described |
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tcohen |
well, it was fixed for master and such.... |
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wizzyrea |
sure sure. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: do a batch item edit on 10,000 materials... that should load it up pretty good |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal: that's a great idea. |
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drojf |
i have some zebra questions. in record.abs i find :p, :w, :s, :n, for example |
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drojf |
melm 245$a […] Title:w,Title:p,Title:s |
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drojf |
i understand :p is phrase, :w is word and :s is sort index. i guess :n (not in this example) is number. i can guess the difference between word and phrase indexing. |
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drojf |
1. i suppose sort index is for all fields that i would like to sort my results by. is that correct? |
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drojf |
2. what is the difference between :w and no : at all? for example |
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drojf |
melm 730 Title,Title:p,Title-uniform |
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drojf |
what is the difference between "Title" here and "Title:w" for melm 245$a? |
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drojf |
would be glad if someone could enlighten me. the indexdata doc did not really help or i'm too blind to find much on that matter there. |
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druthb |
trea++ |
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drojf |
sorry for the flood :) |
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wizzyrea |
tcohen: do you have any experience with batch-mod + the daemon? How does it work? |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: as it works sequentialy, it wont start a new run until it wont finish the 10000 items edit queue |
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tcohen |
i've never used batch-mod |
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wizzyrea |
cool, that's what I was wondering |
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* wizzyrea |
goes to verify that claim :) |
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tcohen |
ooops |
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tcohen |
i hope I was right :$ |
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jcamins |
drojf: in principle without a type is the same as :w. |
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jcamins |
In practice, it goes somewhere else. |
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hdl |
jcamins: and with abs2dom, it is even worse. |
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drojf |
jcamins: what do you mean by "it goes somewhere else"? |
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wizzyrea |
tcohen: so far so good :) |
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* wizzyrea |
needs MOAR RECORDS |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea++ :-D :-D |
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jcamins |
drojf: exactly what it sounds like. The data ends up in an index, but it doesn't appear to be commingle with the :w-indexed data, and therefore doesn't work with CCL. |
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drojf |
ah, i see. thanks for clarifying! |
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slef |
does anyone else get confused between rel_3_6 and 3.6.x or is it just me? |
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jcamins |
slef: huh? What's the difference? |
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slef |
jcamins: rel_3_6 in bugzilla, 3.6.x in git IIRC |
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drojf |
jcamins++ # just learned that you actually count here :) |
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jcamins |
slef: that's confusing. |
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slef |
jcamins: ask git for rel_3_6 and it checks out master instead, which is a pig to fix |
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slef |
maybe another bugzilla change to suggest on list |
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slef |
hi cait |
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slef |
other random fun things to check: how does koha end up pulling in libgtk2.0-common |
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slef |
on debian squeeze. |
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cait |
hi slef :) |
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cait |
hm no ida? |
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jcamins |
slef: imagemagick? |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
good idea |
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slef |
jcamins: I suspect so. |
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cait |
hi jcamins :) |
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* cait |
has new glasses :) |
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slef |
cait: ever get confused between rel_3_6 and 3.6.x? |
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jcamins |
cait: yay! |
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* slef |
has old eyes |
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cait |
slef: um - where are those? bugzilla? |
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slef |
rel_3_6 is bugzilla, 3.6.x is git |
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cait |
hm no |
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slef |
the difference gets me sometimes |
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cait |
not getting confused |
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cait |
but the tags are not consistent on git anyway |
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* tcohen |
never thought I would find a 'goto' on a modern library |
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jcamins |
tcohen: really? |
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* oleonard |
remembers the kerfuffle when they added it to PHP not too long ago |
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tcohen |
yeap, its a wrapper library |
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tcohen |
and it has stuff like |
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tcohen |
goto &lib::function if condition_not_valid |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I meant "you're surprised?" |
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tcohen |
jcamins: hahaha |
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tcohen |
yes, I confess i was suprised |
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* jcamins |
isn't. |
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jcamins |
Actually, in Perl that's necessary for certain types of dispatching, isn't it? |
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druthb |
@wunder 66049 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 3.3�C (10:47 AM CST on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady). |
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slef |
@wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET |
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huginn` |
slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 5.9�C (4:45 PM GMT on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.46 in 1031.4 hPa (Steady). |
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slef |
surprisingly mild today |
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druthb |
@wunder konstanz |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.6�C (5:44 PM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 30.53 in 1033.7 hPa (Steady). |
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* druthb |
shivers |
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slef |
@wunder Bad Salzuflen |
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huginn` |
slef: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Bad Oeynhausen DE, Bad Salzuflen, Germany is -8.3�C (5:33 PM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035.1 hPa. |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
is she travelling |
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gaetan_B |
by koha ! |
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gaetan_B |
err bye #koha, actually ! |
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francharb |
see ya |
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francharb |
@wunder lyon, france |
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huginn` |
francharb: The current temperature in Lyon, France is -3.0�C (6:00 PM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
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francharb |
grrrr |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: did you see my test plan for bug 7284? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
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jcamins |
You asked, I answered. :) |
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wizzyrea |
i was going to look at it today :) |
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jcamins |
You ran screaming away in horror, I looked on disappointedly. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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oleonard |
Oh no no no, you need a much simpler, more restful bug to test. Something nice and quiet like the follow-up on Bug 6865. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6865 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
you may get your wish on that one. |
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wizzyrea |
too. |
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jcamins |
Oh, there was another patch oleonard did that I wanted to sign off on. |
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jcamins |
(but didn't have time for) |
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* chris_n |
wonders how one would go about "restarting" a web app? |
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sekjal |
oleonard: I just git-bz'ed 6865! |
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jcamins |
chris_n: yeah, I've been wondering. |
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* oleonard |
wonders how you modify every page in Koha to eliminate scrolling |
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wizzyrea |
O.O |
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jcamins |
oleonard: lol |
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chris_n |
yeah, I was too |
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jcamins |
oleonard: change it so that you only display one result per page. |
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wahanui |
jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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* chris_n |
thinks if you don't like the way Koha is, do it better |
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chris_n |
and then submit it for inclusion ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
(then submit the patch) |
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chris_n |
snap |
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* wizzyrea |
highfives chris_n |
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slef |
oleonard: put overflow: hide or whatever it is in the CSS? ;-) |
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oleonard |
Ignorance is bliss! |
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slef |
I like wahanui's reaction to jcamins's suggestion. |
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slef |
dinner |
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* chris_n |
has to go play with his new TI-nspire |
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cait |
mmh dinner |
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wizzyrea |
hmm lunch. |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
:) |
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chris_n |
lunch... been there, done that :) |
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wizzyrea |
well I did a bib import of 30k records - the daemon seemed to work a treat - I set it to poll every 5 seconds |
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jcamins |
Nifty! |
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wizzyrea |
it did somewhere between 80-200 a go |
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wizzyrea |
never got overwhelmed |
| 17:50 |
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wizzyrea |
now, this was fdemains cpan version |
| 17:50 |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose I could test tcohen's too |
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cait |
I did test fredericd's too |
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cait |
it worked nicely |
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cait |
can't say much about the way it's done |
| 17:52 |
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wizzyrea |
well i'm inclined to comment and say "this works, we should include it" |
| 17:52 |
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wizzyrea |
since there's not really something to "sign off on" for that particular thing |
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jcamins |
Any BibLibrans around? |
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jcamins |
Or anyone from France at all, for that matter? |
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* jcamins |
watches all the French people leave. |
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jcamins |
Alas. |
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Guillaume |
I'm french and still here ! |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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Guillaume |
But not for long ;-) |
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jcamins |
I have a very quick question for you. |
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Guillaume |
ok |
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jcamins |
Guillaume: is "BDIC" the correct abbreviation for the Bibliotheque de documentation internationale contemporaine? |
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Guillaume |
yes, I think |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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jcamins |
Thanks! |
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Guillaume |
see http://www.bdic.fr/ |
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drojf |
fr.wikipedia.org agrees ;) |
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jcamins |
Heh. Guess I should've thought of that earlier. |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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* jcamins |
has only had two cups of tea today. |
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Guillaume |
Koha interest in BDIC ? |
| 18:04 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
| 18:04 |
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Guillaume |
Great news ! |
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druthb |
/me makes jcamins another cup of tea. |
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druthb |
wait...why didn't.. *boggle* |
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Guillaume |
:'( |
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* druthb |
tries again. |
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druthb |
hm. |
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jcamins |
I'm writing about a book that BDIC owns a copy of, and I wanted to make sure I was listing the right library. |
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Guillaume |
ok |
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Guillaume |
No more french needed here ? |
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jcamins |
Guillaume: no, you can go home now. :) |
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Guillaume |
Ah, cool ! |
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Guillaume |
So long |
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sekjal |
lunch time! |
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* chris_n |
wonders if Quiznos realizes that cookies are always free on the internet |
| 18:14 |
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jcamins |
lol |
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drojf |
jcamins: another zebra question if you don't mind. i need |
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drojf |
melm 653$a ln-class:w,ln-class:s |
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drojf |
in record.abs. there is already |
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drojf |
melm 653 Subject,Subject:p |
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drojf |
if i understand the wiki correctly i have to use |
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drojf |
melm 653$aln-class:w,ln-class:s,Subject,Subject:p |
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drojf |
so i don't screw up the following 653 "Subject" indexing, is that correct? |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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drojf |
woohoo |
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drojf |
thanks |
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jcamins |
But that addition has to go before the melm 653. |
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drojf |
yes |
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drojf |
before i knew zebra i thought marc21 was crazy |
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drojf |
but i will get it eventually |
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jcamins |
lol |
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cait |
drojf++ :) |
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cait |
and hi! |
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drojf |
hi cait |
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drojf |
can you see again? :) |
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cait |
yep |
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drojf |
hooray |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
no longer grumpy ;) |
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drojf |
that's good :) |
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drojf |
does lex:n strictly mean "numeric value" in the sense of "digits"? |
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jcamins |
drojf: in principle. |
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cait |
@ |
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drojf |
i was wondering because i thought that it worked for me when i tried it some time ago. our lexile numbers are something like "A1", "A2" etc. and not strictly numeric. but it turns out that in my older file it is "melm 521$a lex,lex:n" and in master "lex" is missing and only "melm 521$a lex:n" is left so either i added that here when i was fiddling around with it (i doubt that) or somebody else deleted it. |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -11.5�C (7:49 PM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.53 in 1033.7 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
brr |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -11.0�C (7:42 PM CET on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 30.72 in 1040.2 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
I win |
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cait |
:( |
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drojf |
right ;) |
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drojf |
maybe i dont have to go for a walk… |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
why would you want to do that? |
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cait |
it's cold and it's dark |
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cait |
perfect conditions to hide inside |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder lawrence ks |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 9.1�C (1:04 PM CST on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
crazy weather. |
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jcamins |
@wunder 07649 |
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huginn` |
jcamins: The current temperature in Oradell, New Jersey is 10.7�C (2:01 PM EST on February 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling). |
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jcamins |
You want crazy? _That_ is crazy. |
| 19:06 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, that's pretty crazy |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
Last night it was well below freezing. |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
bye tcohen |
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drojf |
cait: because i spent all day sitting in front of my computer. i heard oxygen and some activity is good ;) |
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cait |
hmm rumors |
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drojf |
heh |
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jcamins |
sekjal: if you ever get a hankering to hunt down memory leaks in the core of C4, you could write a script to slurp an entire database using opac-export.pl under mod_perl+NYTProf. |
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jcamins |
:D |
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sekjal |
jcamins: sounds like fu |
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sekjal |
~fun |
| 19:32 |
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sekjal |
though there might be a bit of fu involved |
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* jcamins |
hasn't tried it, but it seems like a better initial test than opac-detail. |
| 19:33 |
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sekjal |
I'm pretty sure I could set up NYT::Prof in the Apache conf |
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sekjal |
so EVERYTHING runs under it, and reports are generated as appropriate |
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jcamins |
Makes sense to me. |
| 19:33 |
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jcamins |
Just make sure you have a lot of disk space on /var |
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jcamins |
You should put the instructions for doing that on the wiki. |
| 19:34 |
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sekjal |
though getting the output converted to HTML reports with unique names would be mildly tricky |
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sekjal |
I was actually just thinking of writing up a guide on how to do NYT::Prof profiling, and have the reports appear on a web-accessible directory automatically |
| 19:34 |
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jcamins |
I'd leave that running on my VM all the time. |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins |
Whenever I'm bored take a look at the cumulative report. |
| 19:35 |
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sekjal |
I just ran Koha's OPAC main page through a WCAG accessibility validator (since I just installed one locally) |
| 19:35 |
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sekjal |
did VERY well |
| 19:35 |
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* jcamins |
doesn't know what that means, but it sounds cool. |
| 19:35 |
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sekjal |
only one small change to make |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
accessibility++ |
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sekjal |
jcamins: HTML coding for the blind/visually impaired |
| 19:36 |
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sekjal |
WCAG 2.0 AA is an international standard (one of several) |
| 19:36 |
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sekjal |
an out-of-the-box Koha OPAC main page only has one failure on that test, and it's very easy to fix |
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sekjal |
of course, if you use the opacheader, OpacNav, opaccredits, etc, you can quickly lose validity |
| 19:37 |
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sekjal |
but that's not Koha's problem :) |
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* jcamins |
wonders how badly he destroyed accessibility with his new layout. |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
pretty much i think :P |
| 19:38 |
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sekjal |
run it through this: http://achecker.ca/checker/index.php |
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oleonard |
Next we'll build in a validator so that you can't make invalid or inaccessible customizations |
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* jcamins |
is doing so. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, pretty much ruined. |
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jcamins |
Wait, no. Good news! The problem is the a:hover color. |
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jcamins |
I can change that. :D |
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sekjal |
jcamins: yeah, all the reported issues look very fixable |
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jcamins |
sekjal: I am totally blaming you when Shari asks why I'm restyling my OPAC. |
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sekjal |
oleonard: if we wrapped the user-editable HTML parts in TinyMCE, there is a validator plugin for it |
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sekjal |
jcamins: :) |
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jcamins |
We should get rid of the extra <i>s in the cart icon. |
| 19:53 |
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cait |
brb |
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drojf |
jcamins: i was just wondering what reason there would be to have <i></i><span><i></i><span></span>Lists </span> after i checked our test install ;) |
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jcamins |
drojf: I have no idea. |
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jcamins |
It seems wasteful, though, doesn't it? |
| 19:57 |
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drojf |
kind of, yes |
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oleonard |
The extra markup is necessary to style the buttons the way they are |
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oleonard |
Now that CSS3 is better supported we can probably get rid of it. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: oh, in that case, never mind. |
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drojf |
ah ok |
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* jcamins |
didn't realize they served any purpose. |
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oleonard |
http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=217 |
| 19:58 |
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* drojf |
neither |
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* oleonard |
realizes the link to the original technique quoted in that post is redirected now |
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* jcamins |
decided he didn't care about older browsers and is just using border-radius. |
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* drojf |
thinks that's a good idea |
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drojf |
people using ie6 should not see anything on the internet but a warning that they won't be able to see anything on the internet |
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oleonard |
And don't forget background-gradient. That's required too if you want the same effect. |
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oleonard |
...which we've now switched to. |
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oleonard |
...anyway. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I don't like gradients, apparently. |
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jcamins |
I think I successfully removed every single gradient from my OPAC. |
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oleonard |
:P |
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drojf |
lol |
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cait |
back |
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jcamins |
A much harder task than you would expect. |
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jcamins |
Especially for IE and Firefox. |
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oleonard |
Because of default browser styles? |
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sekjal |
thanks to a years worth of Google Analytics data, I can justify to my library dropping support for IE6 on our website |
| 20:07 |
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jcamins |
(where -whatever-: something seemingly *always* overrides -whatever-: 0) |
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sekjal |
less than .2% of traffic |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
| 20:08 |
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drojf |
still frightening though |
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* jcamins |
was thinking of testing his website in Netscape Navigator. |
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* drojf |
goes out for a walk. 9pm, -12°, yeah |
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oleonard |
Careful jcamins, Netscape hijacks every kind of file type it can find related to browsing. |
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sekjal |
what would be really fun is to write a mobile staff client webapp for Koha in HTML5/CSS3/JQuery |
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jcamins |
oleonard: what do you mean? |
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sekjal |
something that ties into the phone's camera for barcode scanning |
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oleonard |
jcamins: I mean assigning HTML file types to itself, etc. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: ah. |
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jcamins |
Yikes. |
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jcamins |
I will use a separate VM. |
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jcamins |
Well, I guess I'd have to, anyway... it probably won't run on a modern OS. |
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jcamins |
There's a Netscape *9*? |
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jcamins |
The last version I used was 4.something. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: doesn't Catalyst have a start on that? |
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sekjal |
jcamins: they have produced an Android client for Koha |
| 20:14 |
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jcamins |
Oh, that isn't a webapp? |
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jcamins |
I didn't realize that. |
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sekjal |
at this time, it only does search and possibly places holds |
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wizzyrea |
fredpierre had a mobile interface |
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sekjal |
I think having a staff client app where you can do inventory and rebarcoding in the stacks would be aces |
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wizzyrea |
^^ that would be super cool |
| 20:16 |
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jcamins |
Yes, that would be very cool. |
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druthb |
"The amazing thing is not how well the bear waltzes, but that the bear waltzes at all." catalyst++ |
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cait |
ẞ |
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cait |
? |
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* sekjal |
just found his library's trial subscription to Safari Tech Books Online |
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wizzyrea |
oooooo |
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sekjal |
best title so far: The Cult of LEGO |
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jcamins |
Lucky you. |
| 20:24 |
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* jcamins |
remembers that Shari's university may have Safari. |
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jcamins |
:D |
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jcamins |
Alas, no. |
| 20:26 |
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sekjal |
Koha 3 Library Management System is in here, too |
| 20:27 |
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jcamins |
You can learn how to use Koha! |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6943: Added ability to duplicate a budget tree (from the edit sub menu) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e221e950aa6c0cbdc> / Bug 6490 - Lost and paid not updated when book is checked out. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]31338f9362f0a1e0e> / Bug 7466 - Cart notification popup should appear onscreen even when b |
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jcamins |
Time to head home. Early, today. |
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jcamins |
I'll be back from Oradell. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #616 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #612 3 j 23 h ago) |
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wizzyrea |
oradell sounds like a 3rd rate elvish city. |
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wizzyrea |
or something elves use when their teeth hurt. |
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wizzyrea |
or a tiny computer for your mouth. |
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* druthb |
squees and waves at Space_Librarian |
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* Space_Librarian |
does a happy dance when she sees druthb |
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Space_Librarian |
Good morning/evening! :) |
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Space_Librarian |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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huginn` |
Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
wizzyrea: lol |
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cait |
night |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: about? |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell chris_n will you be pulling bug 7160 into stable? |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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drojf |
brr |
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* Space_Librarian |
waves at wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
heya :) |
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Space_Librarian |
hello! :) |
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jcamins_away |
bug 7160 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7160 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , paying fines throws error |
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jcamins_away |
Ah. |
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oleonard |
See ya #koha |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea, now I will think that to |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: yup |
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wizzyrea |
cool beans. |
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chris_n |
can't have that |
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chris_n |
going on |
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wizzyrea |
i assumed it would |
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wizzyrea |
but i was also compelled to ask |
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Space_Librarian |
Just throwing a quick question out there - was the 3.6 manual ever pdf'ed? Am I going crazy thinking it was? |
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schuster |
ok so I did a stupid thing in my git and am not sure how to fix it! I copied a file over an existing Koha file by accident. What is the best way to get the file from the git repo again to add the changes I was "fixing"? |
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wizzyrea |
git checkout file |
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wizzyrea |
more specifically, |
| 21:21 |
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wizzyrea |
git checkout path/to/your/file |
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schuster |
That will then get a copy from the repo? and replace the one I botched? |
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schuster |
I'm in a branch called test... |
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wizzyrea |
that will reset your changes |
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drojf |
Space_Librarian: haven't seen it as a PDF |
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wizzyrea |
on that one file |
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schuster |
Ah whew... |
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wizzyrea |
Space_Librarian: it probably is |
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Space_Librarian |
drojf maybe it was talk a wee while ago. I can't find it as a PDF... Will have to pull one together myself, methinks. |
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wizzyrea |
they were being generated automatically, last I heard |
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wizzyrea |
but I can't find them. |
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Space_Librarian |
so not just me then? |
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wizzyrea |
nope, not just you |
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wizzyrea |
re: the pdf |
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wizzyrea |
it should not be too difficult |
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Space_Librarian |
shouldn't be, I just have to try get it all in one go. |
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wizzyrea |
what you might do |
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wizzyrea |
would be to clone the documentation repo |
| 21:25 |
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wizzyrea |
and then... one min. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #616: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/616/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7453: All patrons should have an expiry date |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7466 - Cart notification popup should appear onscreen even when button isn't |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle.m.hall: Bug 6490 - Lost and paid not updated when book is checked out. |
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jenkins_koha |
* chrish: Bug 6943: Added ability to duplicate a budget tree (from the edit sub menu) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7453 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Borrower without expiry date breaks opac login |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7466 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cart notification popup should appear onscreen even when button is offscreen |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6490 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Lost and paid not updated when book is checked out without check-in |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6943 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Pushed to Master , Create new budget from a copy of a previous budget |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #617 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #612 4 j 0 h ago) |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Error in records.abs for marc21/biblios <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b23934bbc154a88e4> / Bug 7127 - Follow-up - Templates must be valid XHTML <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a64b758f7f6912989> / Bug 7127 - Templates must be valid XHTML <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]tdiff;h=311dbc8bc |
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eythian |
hi |
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Space_Librarian |
morning eythian |
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eythian |
how's it going? |
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Space_Librarian |
er... |
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eythian |
like that eh? :) |
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Space_Librarian |
I'm trying to find the words and failing. |
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Space_Librarian |
bbiab |
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eythian |
gone to find words? Maybe they're in the stationery cupboard. |
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eythian |
oh, too slow |
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sekjal |
night, #koha! |
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schuster |
wizzyrea after I stashed how do I get those back out of stash? |
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eythian |
schuster: git stash apply |
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schuster |
Ah thanks! |
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schuster |
The book I have doesn't talk about stash! |
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schuster |
by all |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #617: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/617/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7127 - Templates must be valid XHTML |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7127 - Follow-up - Templates must be valid XHTML |
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jenkins_koha |
* januszop: Error in records.abs for marc21/biblios |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Templates must be valid XHTML |
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ponders cookie baking. |
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