IRC log for #koha, 2012-01-19

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02:03 jcamins_away @later tell chris_n That was *bug* 6990 that I thought probably shouldn't be backported to stable, since nengard and collum have encountered two different issues with it on master.
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05:39 cait good morning #koha
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05:56 Suzzane hi everyone....
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06:27 musaf_ Good morning. Would it be possible to ask for some help on setting up koha on Debian hosted within VMWare? After installing the koha package and setting up a new site, I go to http:/localhost/kohaadmin and am informed that the site is down for system maintenance and do not have away to log in.
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06:35 Suzzane Hi... am now back and fully at it.
06:37 Suzzane Someone tell me, why is it this hard downloading the 3.6 version
06:38 Suzzane the programmer has been at it since monday all in vain
06:38 Suzzane we are using Ubuntu
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06:44 Suzzane anybody home????
06:53 AmitG heya Suzzane
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07:09 magnuse kia ora #koha
07:10 AmitG heya magnuse
07:10 magnuse namaste AmitG
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07:28 magnuse hiya _reason
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07:32 marcelr hi koha
07:33 cait hi marcelr :)
07:33 magnuse hiya marcelr
07:34 marcelr hi cait, magnuse
07:35 cait hmpf
07:35 cait can't log into opac in 3.6.3
07:36 cait Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date at /home/koha2/koha/opac/ line 112.
07:36 cait missing module?
07:36 cait hm I have Date::Calc
07:36 magnuse sounds like the module is there but found a date it didn't like?
07:36 cait maybe
07:37 cait it happens on opac login
07:37 cait for the 'root' and for a normal staff user
07:37 cait let me check something
07:38 cait hm dateformat makes no difference
07:38 magnuse no problem logging into opac on 3.6.2
07:38 magnuse what's on line 112?
07:39 marcelr error sounds familiar; heard it before..
07:39 magnuse yeah, i think maybe it was on the lists acouple days ago?
07:40 cait yeah
07:40 cait big blocker
07:40 cait so hints welcome
07:40 cait my log shows
07:40 cait [Thu Jan 19 08:37:18 2012] [error] [client] [Thu Jan 19 08:37:18 2012] Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date at /home/koha2/koha/opac/ line 112., referer: http://localhost:81/
07:41 cait line 112 is
07:41 cait if ( C4::Context->preference('NotifyBorrowerDeparture') &&
07:41 cait Date_to_Days(Add_Delta_Days($warning​_year,$warning_month,$warning_day,- C4::Context->preference('N​otifyBorrowerDeparture'))) <
07:41 cait Date_to_Days( $today_year, $today_month, $today_day ) )
07:42 cait Notifyborrowerdeparture is 30
07:42 marcelr some value is nul?
07:42 cait perhaps
07:42 magnuse Bug 6978
07:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6978 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , Notify the user on his account page when it is almost expired.
07:43 magnuse hm, that was pushed to master 2011-11-06
07:44 cait the system preference is there
07:44 marcelr should be something with splitting date expiry?
07:44 magnuse git blame line 112 to check when it was last changed
07:44 cait this is also there:
07:44 cait my (  $today_year,   $today_month,   $today_day) = Today();
07:44 cait my ($warning_year, $warning_month, $warning_day) = split /-/, $borr->{'dateexpiry'};
07:44 marcelr the warning year date month
07:45 marcelr yes
07:45 cait I have to go to work - will be back in a few minutes
07:47 cait but don't stop thinking about a solution :)
07:47 magnuse hehe
07:47 marcelr ;)
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07:57 matts hi #koha !
07:57 magnuse hiya matts
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07:58 asaurat hi!
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07:58 matts hi magnuse ! I heard you can't come to the hackfest in march... That's a pity ! Bug squashing / chocolate eating was fun last year ! ;)
07:58 julian_m hi
07:58 wahanui what's up, julian_m
08:00 magnuse matts: yeah, i'm really sorry i can't make it - but someone is paying me to go to the annual library conference in norway that week, to talk about a project i have been working on for over a year...
08:00 magnuse bad timing!
08:00 magnuse and yes, last year was great fun!
08:01 matts Indeed it's a bad timing... :| Let's hope next year will be ok !
08:01 magnuse yup, fingers crossed!
08:04 magnuse sounds like a good turnout this year, that's great!
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08:16 sophie_m hello #koha
08:18 magnuse bonjour sophie_m!
08:19 sophie_m hi magnuse :-)
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08:20 kf back
08:20 kf solution found? ;)
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08:21 kf bonjour gaetan_B
08:21 gaetan_B hello
08:21 wahanui hola, gaetan_B
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08:35 magnuse kf: i wonder if your problem could be a data problem, not a code problem?
08:36 magnuse i see no changes from 3.6.2 to 3.6.3, and 3.6.2 works for me
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08:39 kf new sample data installed
08:39 kf so... I think it shoudl work
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08:43 reiveune hello
08:45 alex_a bonjour !
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08:59 kf magnuse: it was a new installation
08:59 kf no update
08:59 kf I will try to find out more later - team meeting now
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10:05 marcelr anyone willing to take a look at 3264 solving a serious problem in the marc editor when removing subfields?
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10:41 AmitG slef around?
10:41 slef AmitG: sort of
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11:11 Suzzane Hi everyone
11:11 Suzzane is it true that Koha can generate a classification scheme?
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11:33 Suzzane its all quiet today
11:33 Suzzane where is everyone?
11:33 wahanui i think everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver
11:34 Suzzane i need tolearn this dance then Wahanui...
11:43 Suzzane i need help
11:44 Suzzane we are trying to download 3.6 version which we have managed
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12:16 slef Suzzane: I'm here.
12:16 slef Suzzane: hello :)
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12:18 slef bwahahahaha
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12:21 vfernandes hi ppl :)
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12:23 vfernandes there are any devellopments for bulk record edition?
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12:27 slef vfernandes: surely, yes?
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12:27 slef @query bulk
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1794 enhancement, P3, ---, chris, NEW , Patrons (anonomize, bulk-delete) not secured by Independent branches
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1847 enhancement, P3, ---, chris, NEW , 'Cart' or 'Book Bag' options to inventory tool
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5332 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add batch reversion capability to bin/
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4392 major, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , leaves items.onloan set to '0000-00-00' instead of NULL
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3530 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Auto label batch generation feature of the bulk import tool fails
12:27 slef @query bulk edit
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6254 minor, P5 - low, ---, ian.walls, NEW , can't set patron privacy by default
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Bulk/global edit for MARC frameworks
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, P3, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, kmkale, Failed QA , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
12:27 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tajoli, Pushed to Master , Analytical records support
12:27 slef hrm... how to find it?
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12:42 vfernandes i think that it must be already a request for that :)
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12:46 Culiforge hello all, I previously installed koha from the git instructions and had issues connecting to zebra... couldn't seem to resolve permissions. I uninstalled and reinstalled from the deb pkg but it seems that the deb didn't set up mysql or create a koha-conf.xml file.. now I can't connect to mysql (Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock) could someone tell me where I might look to begin resolving this?
12:50 magnus_afk Culiforge: did you install koha or koha-common?
12:50 magnus_afk i think neither of them installs mysql
12:50 Culiforge magnus: common
12:50 magnus_afk because you might not want to run mysql on the same machine as koha
12:51 Culiforge why is that?
12:51 magnus_afk well, if you are really large, you might want to split the load on two machines
12:52 magnus_afk or you might already have a server running mysql and you might not want to run another one
12:52 magnus_afk[…]n_Debian_Squeeze: If you are planning to run MySQL on the same server as you are running Koha on, then make sure you install it: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
12:54 Culiforge hmm, nothing on that page...
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12:58 magnus_afk Culiforge: nothing?
12:58 wahanui i think nothing is ever gone in git
12:58 magnus_afk wahanui: forget nothing
12:58 wahanui magnus_afk: I forgot nothing
12:59 Culiforge "There is currently no text in this page"
12:59 kf remove the : at the end
13:00 magnus_afk ah, sorry
13:01 Culiforge there's a 3.6 on squeeze page though
13:02 Culiforge and I see what you're saying there
13:03 magnus_afk yeah: this page[…]on_Debian_Squeeze should redirect you to the 3.6 page
13:03 magnus_afk it should have what you need to get up and running with the packages
13:04 Culiforge even though mysql appears to be somehow "wrong" (not sure how to describe it)
13:04 magnus_afk did you install mysql-server?
13:05 Culiforge I did
13:07 magnus_afk and you get Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ?
13:07 Culiforge yes
13:07 magnus_afk is mysql running?
13:07 magnus_afk ps aux | grep mysql
13:08 Culiforge gary     14157  1.0  0.1   3376   800 pts/2    S+   08:07   0:00 grep --color=auto mysql
13:08 magnus_afk if that is all you get it's probably not running
13:08 magnus_afk sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
13:09 Culiforge why would mysql have stopped?
13:09 Culiforge mysql    14414  1.2  3.7 145452 16672 ?        Ssl  08:08   0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld
13:09 Culiforge gary     14581  0.0  0.1   3376   804 pts/2    S+   08:08   0:00 grep --color=auto mysql
13:10 magnus_afk no idea :-)
13:12 Culiforge ok, thank you I've got to get ready for work... I'll poke around and see what I can find
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14:00 jcamins_away Jonathan_druart++ # for discussing bug 7430
14:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio
14:00 talljoy yo
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14:05 jcamins_away Sorry, Jonathan Druart was discussing the other bug I was watching.
14:05 jcamins_away Julian_maurice++ # for discussing bug 7430
14:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio
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14:10 nengard paul_p you might want to comment on this post (since I'm not 100% sure of the answer)[…]tions-and-serials
14:10 paul_p good morning nengard !
14:10 paul_p 1st comment = BibLibre has no s :D
14:11 chris_n paul_p, nengard: are there still outstanding issues with bug 6990?
14:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6990 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , TransformKohaToMarc enhancement
14:11 nengard paul_p it was an 's
14:11 paul_p ok, seen the full title !
14:11 wahanui I haven't seen 'the', paul_p
14:11 nengard chris_n yes, I still can't search - but it seems to just be me and my frameworks
14:12 nengard but i think it might be another bug elsewhere in the system that caused my framework problems to start with
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14:12 chris_n k, I've got it pushed into 3.6.x, but will revert it if there are issues
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14:16 kf bywater has a new logo?
14:17 jcamins_away kf: so they do.
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14:25 libsysguy o/
14:25 * libsysguy is finally done with his new website and can come back to Koha :)
14:26 jcamins Yay!
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14:27 schuster bywater logo ++
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14:27 * libsysguy can't remember what it was before it change :-\
14:28 jcamins libsysguy: I had that problem too.
14:28 jcamins I had to go looking for the old version.
14:28 libsysguy was it like 3 dots in some fashion?
14:28 schuster Logos are so hard to deal with...  and very expensive to create!  I worked with a group once that spent over $100,000 evaluating what their logo should look like...
14:28 jcamins Yeah, just text with a lot of dots.
14:28 libsysguy w00t called it
14:29 libsysguy and yeah no joke
14:29 libsysguy I know that the uspto can really be picky wtih logos and other marks
14:29 schuster it was on her videos
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14:30 mbalmer hya koha
14:31 kf hi mbalmer
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14:36 chris_n hi hdl
14:36 hdl hi chris_n
14:38 kf hi hdl :)
14:39 jcamins paul_p: I did the follow-up patch for bug 1633.
14:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, kmkale, Failed QA , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
14:40 paul_p jcamins, yes, i've seen, but couldn't do anything for it now. today, I work for Lyon 3
14:40 jcamins paul_p: say hi to the Lyonians. :)
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14:59 rhcl Why is is borked?
14:59 jcamins rhcl: too many connections.
15:01 jcamins rhcl: (I'm checking)
15:02 jcamins rhcl: your Zebra server is overloaded.
15:02 jcamins rhcl: I recommend restarting Apache and zebrasrv.
15:02 rhcl well, ok, but why? This is currently under very light usage
15:03 jcamins Hm.
15:03 jcamins That's odd.
15:03 rhcl there's just a couple of people using it at the moment
15:03 jcamins I was thinking Google crawler.
15:03 rhcl ahhhh, lemme check that
15:04 jcamins There shouldn't ever be an error like that, but clearly there is.
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15:06 * jcamins waves to larryb.
15:06 larryb o/
15:06 rhcl well, I don't see a crawler, but maybe by now it finished.
15:06 rhcl larryb:
15:07 * kf hides from paul_p so she can not be randomly chosen to rewrite something ;)
15:07 larryb rhcl, Yeah I saw that. Did you open a ticket with us?
15:07 paul_p lol
15:07 paul_p kf, i'm not your boss ;-)
15:08 wizzyrea paul_p: did you see the patch I did for you that updated the history and
15:08 wizzyrea for the new devs :)
15:08 paul_p wizzyrea, nope, thx
15:08 rhcl tnx jcamins
15:09 wizzyrea yw
15:09 * wizzyrea doesn't mean to nag, just wanted to make sure you saw it
15:09 jcamins rhcl: you're welcome. If you haven't already restarted things, try restarting Zebra first, see if it fixes it, then restart Apache.
15:09 * jcamins is curious.
15:09 kf paul_p: didn't forget about the datatables - only had no time yet. worst case I will look at it on the weekend
15:10 jcamins kf: shouldn't you take the weekend off to do fun things?
15:10 * jcamins considers his plans for the weekend, and becomes very interested in datatables. :P
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15:11 kf lol
15:11 kf what are your weekend plans?
15:11 magnuse moving, perhaps? ;-)
15:12 jcamins kf: we're probably moving out of the city to my grandparents' house, since we won't be closing on our new apartment until the end of next month if we're lucky.
15:12 kf ouch :(
15:12 rhcl ah, it's working fine now, and people are on the system using it, and the zebra cron should recheck it periodically.
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15:22 paul_p nengard ?
15:22 wahanui nengard is fast
15:22 nengard not fast enough apparently
15:22 paul_p lol
15:22 paul_p about[…]ater+Solutions%29
15:23 nengard yes?
15:23 paul_p and official Koha support company = I suppose it must be read "official Koha" support company and not official "koha support company", but maybe it's worth adding the "" to avoid trolls...
15:24 paul_p (& maybe a link to would be cool)
15:24 * paul_p switched to XFCE this morning and feel he's falling in love with it...
15:25 nengard I'm confused by what you're saying ? that's the first line on all of our press releases
15:25 nengard And since that press isn't about Koha training or Koha specifically I didn't put the link to Koha - but all our Koha specific press has a link to the official site of course
15:25 magnuse "official Koha support company" sounds a bit... i dunno.. who made you official?
15:26 nengard magnuse - why did no one ever complain before?  we're listed along with all of you on the official website as a support provider
15:26 paul_p nengard, I haven't noticed that before I think
15:26 nengard[…]ywater-solutions/
15:26 kf I think it's only a small thing
15:26 * magnuse neither
15:26 * magnuse too
15:26 nengard[…]pport-specialist/
15:26 kf but can understand paul's and magnuse's reasoning
15:26 * paul_p don't want to start a troll !
15:26 * magnuse neither
15:27 nengard I understand and I will gladly talk with the team about changing it in the future, but that press went out to a bunch of sites already so I can't change it
15:27 wizzyrea to be fair - we've discussed before about how listing on the site doesn't confer any credentials
15:27 jcamins nengard: there's a problem with the website.
15:27 nengard what website?
15:27 wahanui website is
15:27 wizzyrea none of the providers there are "official"
15:27 jcamins nengard: ByWater's. has the exact same contents as
15:27 jcamins The latest three articles only.
15:28 nengard jcamins where is the link you're clicking to get that behavior?
15:28 nengard I don't have any links that go to /page/ that i know of
15:28 nengard everyone else I'll share you comments with Nate about the press
15:28 jcamins "Older entries."
15:29 nengard oh yeah - i found that the other day
15:29 nengard we're doing a new website now so i'm not gonna both trying to fix that :)
15:29 nengard just click on the Blog > Company News link at the top instead
15:29 jcamins Thanks.
15:29 * jcamins runs to get to an 11:30.
15:30 jcamins (that worked perfectly, BTW)
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15:50 skushner Hi all...have a little problem starting sip server..getting error messages,  "File does not exist: /koha/C4/SIP/SIPconfig.xml at /Sip/ line 33"  and line 33 is, "my $cfg = $parser->XMLin($config_file);"..thanks, in advance, as always..good people.
15:51 wizzyrea is that the path to your SIPconfig.xml?
15:55 skushner yes
15:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6328' <[…]bdf84306e51e3d6a0> / Bug 6328 follow-up, fixes Undefined subroutine ::Circulation::Delta_Days <[…]8ea88206cff433fcc>
15:56 skushner it wasn't..had to add../root/koha/C4...etc..
15:56 skushner thanks..never mind
15:56 wizzyrea yw :)
16:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #596 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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16:05 kf hi oleonard :)
16:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Olivier Crouzet is 168th ! <[…]ea22f10ab7a6db25a>
16:07 kf paul_p: hm not sure the numbering is right - the academy students ar still missing
16:07 kf paul_p: there is a patch from wizzyrea for it :)
16:07 wizzyrea yea, olivier would be 171
16:08 paul_p will fix the numbering when applying liz patch
16:08 wizzyrea k :)
16:09 paul_p lyon 3 go live with koha-community 3.6 next week and still has 6 mantis entries opened... not a big deal, but 3 blockers
16:09 magnuse sounds like an interesting week ahead then, paul_p :-)
16:12 kf paul_p: 3.6.3?
16:12 paul_p kf, master in fact
16:13 kf master = 3.8 or master 3.6?
16:13 paul_p will probably stay onto master until 3.8
16:13 kf master = HEAD
16:13 * kf is confused
16:13 paul_p master, the branch where the RM pushes patches, that will become 3.8 in april
16:14 magnuse ooh, daring!
16:14 magnuse how often will they pull in new updates?
16:14 kf paul_p: thx :)
16:14 kf now I am no longer confused
16:15 kf we plan an update to 3.6.3 atm
16:15 paul_p magnuse, every week for now, then when it's needed
16:15 kf 5 libraries at once... hopefully they will love it and all will be ok :)
16:15 paul_p (and carefully)
16:15 magnuse paul_p: good plan ;-)
16:16 magnuse i'm moving my customers to 3.6.2 as soon as i can now, then 3.6.3 when that becomes available
16:16 wizzyrea did I miss the memo that testing was going to require Modern::Perl?
16:16 wizzyrea i'm looking at t/db_dependent/sysprefs.t
16:16 wizzyrea it's a new test (jan 2)
16:16 magnuse ...except bug 7445 is a blocker for on of the libraries, at least
16:16 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist"
16:19 magnuse paul_p: will lyon use tags? if so i would recommend you have a look at that
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16:21 wizzyrea nobody knows about Modern::Perl I take it
16:22 magnuse wizzyrea: i can't remember it being discussed, but i might have missed it
16:22 paul_p wizzyrea, Modern::Perl is exactly use strict, use warnings
16:22 paul_p (plus a few other common-sense things)
16:22 wizzyrea ok, that's fine
16:22 wizzyrea I don't mind that
16:23 wizzyrea but - (and I'm still looking) nobody said that they were going to use it
16:23 wizzyrea and it popped up in the tests.
16:23 paul_p wizzyrea, because julian started to use it in a patch, so rangi updated the test to deal with it
16:23 oleonard Isn't that part of the datatables patch?
16:23 kf ah
16:23 kf so we have to update the dependencies I guess?
16:23 paul_p perlcritic complains if we don't tell him that both are equivalent
16:23 wizzyrea ^^ this is where I was going
16:24 paul_p kf, I think it's in Perl-core, so no new dependancy
16:24 wizzyrea well I didn't have it.
16:24 paul_p so i'm thinking wrong ;-)
16:25 paul_p and we should add it in dependancies ;-)
16:25 magnuse it's not on the first debian vm i had to hand either - looks like it should be added
16:25 wizzyrea woot, okies then. :)
16:25 wizzyrea (I thought I might be going mad)
16:26 magnuse well, you might still be doing that... ;-)
16:27 wizzyrea ohsnap
16:28 kf magnuse: don't provoke her... too dangerous
16:28 wizzyrea !
16:29 wizzyrea lol wow.
16:29 * kf sends soothing cookies
16:29 magnuse oh yes, everything is just fine and dandy, don't mind me! la la la la
16:29 kf lol
16:30 * magnuse sends cookies with something soothing in them
16:30 wizzyrea chamomile cookies
16:30 wizzyrea I wonder how those would taste
16:30 magnuse chamomilish?
16:31 magnuse chamomilicious?
16:31 oleonard ginger cookies maybe?
16:32 kf chocolate is very soothing
16:41 reiveune bye
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16:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #596: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/596/
16:54 jenkins_koha koha: Bug 6328 follow-up, fixes Undefined subroutine &C4::Circulation::Delta_Days
16:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6328 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Fine in days does not work
16:54 magnuse success! woohoo
16:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #597 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:57 kf I wonder if that problem is related to my deltadays problem from this morning?
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17:11 wizzyrea heh, I have the strangest problem in my production server - which is 3.6.0 - one patron's holds have gotten stuck at the bottom priority, and they will. not. move. up.
17:11 wizzyrea not manually, not automatically
17:11 wizzyrea holds move around her
17:11 wizzyrea library staff placed the holds, they didn't set any weird hold not needed or whatever dates
17:12 magnuse is now known as magnus_afk
17:13 kf ah
17:13 kf there is a feature doing that
17:13 kf one of the buttoms
17:14 kf is to stick it to the last
17:14 wizzyrea oh. how to undo?
17:14 kf logging into koha sec
17:15 kf it's the arrow next to the X
17:15 kf toggle lowest priority
17:15 wizzyrea do it and then undo it?
17:15 kf hm
17:15 kf I have never used it
17:15 kf it must be ntoed in the database somewhere?
17:15 kf that it's always supposed to be last?
17:16 wizzyrea oh yes
17:16 wizzyrea lowestpriority = 1
17:16 wizzyrea and sho nuff
17:16 wizzyrea she has some set like that
17:16 wizzyrea wow kf++ that was awesome
17:16 kf sho nuff?
17:16 wizzyrea colloquial for "sure enough"
17:17 kf oh
17:17 kf cool
17:17 kf leaving now :)
17:17 kf bye all
17:17 wizzyrea hm the bit is unset, but it's still stuck at the bottom.
17:17 kf hm
17:17 kf well it shoudl not change the position now
17:17 kf but you can move it up I think?
17:17 wizzyrea I tried to, it's not going
17:17 kf oh
17:17 kf let me make a second hold to test with
17:18 wizzyrea let me try to move it up to 2 instead of 1
17:18 kf oh
17:18 kf you can untoggle it
17:18 kf when you click on the pc
17:18 kf the arrow
17:18 kf there is a line under the arrow
17:18 kf and clicking again removes it
17:18 kf interesting
17:18 wahanui interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good
17:18 wizzyrea yea, the bit is unset now - it should move but it's not
17:19 kf hm yes
17:19 kf perhaps the toggle is broken?
17:19 kf ok
17:19 kf wat worked for me was
17:19 kf untoggle
17:19 wizzyrea well, the bit is getting flipped in the db
17:19 kf udate holds button
17:20 kf then move
17:20 wizzyrea aha
17:20 wizzyrea will try
17:20 kf yep, can repeat
17:20 wizzyrea k sec
17:20 kf untoggling - then hitting update hold(s) to save, then moving
17:22 wizzyrea thank you for reminding me of the necessity to "update hold" in between I forgot that nuance
17:22 kf Ididn't know it before
17:22 kf :)
17:23 kf bye :)
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17:32 wizzyrea kf++ mystery solved (thanks chica)
17:33 * wizzyrea makes a note to investigate whether setting one "lowest priority" hold for a patron affects their other holds
17:33 wizzyrea because I think I just observed that
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17:39 gmcharlt @marc 300 e
17:39 huginn gmcharlt: Accompanying material May include a parenthetical physical description of the accompanying material.
17:43 nengard_lunch is now known as nengard
17:46 wizzyrea phew, happily there is not a bug there
17:47 wizzyrea I can't reproduce the weird behavior I just saw, I suspect the librarian was clicking things at the same time I was.
17:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #597: SUCCESS in 52 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/597/
17:48 jenkins_koha paul.poulain: Olivier Crouzet is 168th !
17:48 maximep i'm trying to make a change on the xls result to show more status for items
17:48 maximep but i can't find where this is coming from <xsl:value-of select="count(key('item-by-status', 'On order'))"/>
17:48 maximep the item-by-status
17:48 maximep can't even find how to just show what it is
17:48 maximep completly lost in this xlst stuff :/
17:50 jcamins_away maximep: look near the top.
17:51 jcamins_away Actually, might be MARC21Utils.
17:51 maximep <xsl:key name="item-by-status" match="items:item" use="items:status"/>
17:51 maximep sure
17:51 maximep doesn't help me
17:52 jcamins_away maximep: what's the point of confusion?
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17:55 jcamins_away Actually,
17:55 wahanui i guess Actually, is it propaganda if it's the truth?
17:55 jcamins_away first question?
17:55 wahanui hmmm... first question is "What are you trying to do?"
17:55 cait ?
17:55 wizzyrea define "show more status for items"
17:55 cait back :)
17:56 maximep right now it prints On Order if the item has On Order has it's not for loan status
17:56 jcamins_away maximep: right.
17:56 maximep we have custom not for loan, like in "waiting for item"
17:57 maximep I want to show the item as waiting for item
17:57 jcamins_away Ahh.
17:57 jcamins_away Well, you have two options.
17:57 jcamins_away One is to list every item and its status.
17:57 jcamins_away The other is to add additional counts.
17:58 maximep and I chose the second
17:58 maximep except that I can't find where the key('item-by-status', 'On order') is coming from
17:58 maximep the On order
17:59 maximep can't find where to add a new one
17:59 wizzyrea aren't those authorized values?
17:59 wizzyrea not_loan or somesuch
17:59 jcamins_away Just change "On order" to whatever.
17:59 jcamins_away Right.
17:59 oleonard paul_p: all my tests show the fix for Bug 5877 to be working well. I've submitted a follow-up to improve translatability (and one minor interface change)
17:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once
18:00 maximep out authorised_values NOT_LOAN are in french "À commander"
18:00 paul_p yeah !!!
18:00 maximep so i dont think it's coming from them
18:00 paul_p oleonard, all my tests to find a flight from CMH to MRS show that's very complex ! (many many many many options & prices & depends on the website you look )
18:00 jcamins_away maximep: look in C4::XSLT.
18:01 maximep wow
18:01 maximep found it
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18:01 maximep wowow why didn't i think of this
18:01 maximep jcamins_away++
18:01 wizzyrea hehe
18:01 wizzyrea lightbulb moment then?
18:01 * wizzyrea loves those
18:02 maximep just didn't read the code until the end
18:02 maximep where it defines all those
18:02 maximep duh
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18:03 paul_p oleonard, for the booking, your (official/passport) name is Owen Leonard, right, no specific thing ?
18:05 jcamins_away oleonard: you're going to Marseilles?
18:05 * jcamins_away is so jealous!
18:05 paul_p jcamins_away, yep, he is
18:05 jcamins_away Lucky!
18:05 paul_p (and it's not Marseilles, it's Marseille :D
18:05 jcamins_away Oops.
18:05 paul_p all americans add a s i don't know why !
18:06 jcamins_away paul_p: I always thought it had an s.
18:06 jcamins_away paul_p: oh, because it has an 's' in English.
18:06 oleonard Yeah, Wikipedia says "also Marseilles in English"
18:07 slef no it can have an s in English
18:07 cait and I am going to meet oleonard - yay
18:07 cait !
18:07 oleonard ...because English speakers will say and spell your country's places however we damn-well please.
18:07 slef it's a bit archaic though
18:07 edveal is now known as eveal-away
18:07 slef like Lions(sp?) instead of Lyon
18:08 cait jcamins_away: scotland?
18:08 wahanui scotland is pretty wicked too
18:08 jcamins_away cait: I hope so.
18:08 cait :)
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18:09 slef oh that reminds me
18:09 paul_p OK, time to leave for me. see you tomorrow guys !
18:09 slef[…]n12_Announcements
18:10 slef @later tell rangi can we have a nice quote for[…]n12_Announcements please?
18:10 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
18:11 jcamins_away slef: he's stunned to silence by the excitement of going to Edinburgh.
18:11 slef jcamins_away: hehehe
18:12 jcamins_away slef: so the dates are now firm?
18:12 slef jcamins_away: as far as I know.
18:12 jcamins_away :)
18:14 * jcamins_away figures out his account on Kayak after the sixth try.
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18:30 * chris_n thinks a new file system based on git would be super
18:31 chris_n 'git revert that-messed-up-config' would be a very nice option
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18:41 cait hmpf
18:42 cait trying to figure out my perl error when logging into opac in 3.6.3
18:42 cait Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date at /home/koha2/koha/opac/ line 112.
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18:43 cait ohoh
18:43 cait the patron had no expiry date
18:44 cait chris_n: no expiry date makes it crash - so perhaps not revert it :)
18:45 chris_n can we trap the error and notify the admin or user?
18:46 chris_n is no expiry date a valid option?
18:46 cait no
18:46 cait it isn't
18:46 cait and I chose the only patron
18:46 cait int he sample data
18:46 cait that had no expiry date on import
18:46 chris_n then we should trap and log at least
18:46 chris_n but I think it should not cause the code to croak
18:46 cait I think we should add a check for the expiry date to be not null
18:47 cait so it will just not show a warning in opac, but not break
18:47 chris_n right
18:47 chris_n I'll revert it
18:47 cait hm
18:47 cait why not have a follow up
18:47 cait ?
18:47 chris_n and grab it once the problem is fixed
18:47 chris_n can it happen before next week?
18:47 chris_n if so, fine :)
18:48 cait 124 if ( C4::Context->preference('NotifyBorrowerDeparture') &&
18:48 cait we could add a check for expiry date there I think
18:48 cait && $borr->{'dateexpiry'};
18:48 cait without the ; ?
18:48 cait I will try it
18:48 chris_n just let me know
18:49 cait chris_n: I think it can only happen
18:49 cait when you have inserted borrowers into the borrowers table directly
18:49 cait not using the tools
18:49 cait becuase when you add a patron from the gui or using patron import
18:49 chris_n that field should be not null
18:49 cait there is always a date calculated
18:49 cait yep
18:49 cait I only hit it
18:49 cait because the sample data includes one(!) user without expiry date
18:50 cait and
18:50 cait when I added the password I used password change
18:50 chris_n so we need to fix the sample data and the code
18:50 cait because if I had edited the patron normally... it would have ended up with an expiry date
18:50 chris_n and the schema
18:50 wahanui the schema is tracked in git. or found at
18:50 cait hm
18:50 cait it's really a very unlikely edge case
18:51 cait I think reverting would not be justified
18:51 cait I can do a check for a valid expiry date?
18:51 cait in the opac file?
18:51 chris_n so why not fixup the sample data and I'll push that
18:51 chris_n then open a bug for the backend problems
18:52 cait hm lots of sample data but I can do that
18:52 cait I am not sure why the admin does not have an expiry date
18:52 cait[…]5397453c6e0173ba0
18:52 cait first line
18:52 cait that was my user
18:53 chris_n I need to switch tasks again, but will check back in later
18:56 oleonard nengard: I updated the KOCT page on the wiki to better match the process as it seems to be working now, including screenshots
18:57 nengard cool
18:57 nengard thanks
18:58 * oleonard wonders if the French version of the KOCT differs from the English one
19:00 oleonard Hm, they appear to be identical. It must have been an unreleased version which appeared in some of those previous screenshots
19:02 * cait ordered her first smartphone
19:03 jcamins_away Oooh.
19:03 cait heh
19:03 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
19:04 jcamins You will never leave #koha again, will you?
19:04 * oleonard tried to add some AJAXy flourishes to the Offline Circ page in the staff client and ran into wierd JS problems in Chrome
19:04 cait jcamins: it could happen
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20:00 oleonard If we're changing a bug report which has Importance: PATCH-Sent, should we change it? Or is a bulk change going to happen?
20:00 * oleonard can't remember if this was decided or not
20:01 jcamins oleonard: no bulk change.
20:01 cait i changed for those
20:02 cait where I changed something else
20:05 wizzyrea man that change messed up all of my saved searches
20:05 wizzyrea I was sad.
20:05 wizzyrea I'm sure it's a good change.
20:05 wizzyrea but I was still sad.
20:05 * oleonard was just cleaning those up for himself
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20:25 * oleonard 's VM can't seem to connect to the main git repo
20:26 jcamins oleonard: can you ping it?
20:26 wizzyrea I just got stuff from it
20:26 jcamins oleonard: if you can't, it's your VM. If you can, it's probably the server.
20:27 jcamins Hm. That makes it sound like your VM.
20:27 * oleonard can't figure out what could have changed in his VM
20:27 jcamins oleonard: you're on Windows. Restart.
20:27 jcamins :P
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20:28 wizzyrea oh that's just harsh.
20:29 wizzyrea but restarting the VM might  not hurt.
20:29 * oleonard did that at least
20:29 * jcamins meant restarting the Windows computer.
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20:29 jcamins Why? 'Cause it's Windows.
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20:30 wizzyrea hey I use windows... for games.
20:30 jcamins wizzyrea: and what do you do between games?
20:31 wizzyrea well for now I'm using ubuntu :P
20:31 wizzyrea but I just got a new hard drive
20:31 wizzyrea so that may change.
20:31 sekjal oleonard:  may I ask you a jQuery question?
20:31 oleonard Sure
20:32 sekjal I'm trying to replace the " | " delimiter in URLs and Subjects on both the OPAC XSLT details and results pages
20:32 sekjal my jquery isn't working...
20:32 oleonard Ouch, sounds like no fun.
20:32 sekjal $("span.results_summary").html().replace(/ \| /g,'<br />'));
20:33 jcamins wizzyrea: and how do you get into Ubuntu? :P
20:34 wizzyrea I boot it, silly.
20:34 jcamins wizzyrea: so in other words, you have to reboot into Windows before every game? :P
20:35 wizzyrea yea, because using a vm for windows from ubuntu is more pain than I'm willing to take.
20:35 jcamins QED.
20:36 sekjal oleonard: can you see anything wrong with my jQuery at first glance?
20:36 cait is the sequence right?
20:36 wizzyrea sekjal isn't there a place in the prefs where you can change that delimiter?
20:37 wizzyrea i may have been dreaming but I thought there was.
20:37 cait hm I think it only works for non-xslt
20:37 jcamins No, that's for subfields.
20:37 sekjal wizzyrea:  no, not that one.  it's hardcoded into the XSLT
20:37 wizzyrea ah ok, never mind then.
20:39 * oleonard tinkers
20:44 oleonard sekjal: Try this:
20:44 oleonard $("span.results_summary").each(function(){
20:44 oleonard string = $(this).html();
20:44 oleonard newstring = string.replace(/ \| /g,'<br />');
20:44 oleonard $(this).html(newstring);
20:44 oleonard });
20:44 sekjal thanks, oleonard
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20:52 oleonard Fine.
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20:56 * oleonard sighs
20:57 oleonard Ah, there it is. All I had to do was give up.
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21:00 chris_n things enjoy hiding when you look for them
21:00 chris_n and they get board and give up when you quit
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21:07 Brooke 0/
21:07 oleonard Hi Brooke, what's up?
21:07 Brooke not much, you?
21:08 edveal Does anyone know the font the is used in the koha image?
21:08 * wizzyrea waves at brooke
21:08 oleonard I don't, but there are some graphics files included with Koha if you're looking to make a modified version
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21:10 edveal No just like the font and might use it elsewhere.
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21:11 oleonard edveal:
21:11 cait good night #koha
21:12 wizzyrea[…]ageid=0&x=42&y=44
21:12 wizzyrea ha
21:13 wizzyrea Generis Serif Italic looks the most the same to me
21:13 wizzyrea or Sirba Italic
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21:16 oleonard Later #koha
21:16 wizzyrea bye :)
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21:20 Brooke o/
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21:58 schuster bug 5668
21:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Failed QA , Star ratings in the opac
21:59 schuster hmmm...  I don't fully understand the question on 41 - good work, but failed QA.
21:59 schuster drat thought we were getting closer!
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22:23 mtj morning all
22:23 rhcl hi mtj
22:26 bag hi there mtj
22:27 mtj heya guys :)
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22:30 Kate[…]ery/practice.html
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22:32 mtj nice new logo brendan
22:33 bag thanks mtj++
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