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mtj |
later tell slef http://support.google.com/webm[…]=en&answer=139066 |
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mtj |
later tell slef google does have some other handy method for handling duplicated content, too |
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* rangi |
hands mtj an @ |
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mtj |
@later tell slef http://support.google.com/webm[…]=en&answer=139066 |
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huginn |
mtj: The operation succeeded. |
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mtj |
@later tell slef google does have some other handy method for handling duplicated content, too |
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huginn |
mtj: The operation succeeded. |
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mtj |
bah! ;P |
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| 10:36 |
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Culiforge |
Is biblios.net/org defunct... I get rerouted to the google gears blog stating that gears has stopped in favor of html5 but there's no where to go from there.... |
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cait |
I think it relied on gears so might be 'dead' now |
| 10:38 |
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Culiforge |
bummer... |
| 10:38 |
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rangi |
when chris catalfo left liblime (along with pretty much everyone else) liblime stopped doing any work on it, and let it die |
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rangi |
chris catalfo put the code up in a git repo on github though, so if people wanted to port it to html5 they can |
| 10:40 |
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Culiforge |
I was hoping it would allow me to do what I needed to do.. is there a way to take a csv db and search/convert to marc21? |
| 10:40 |
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rangi |
yes, lots of ways |
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Culiforge |
anything with a low curve since i'm still learning my way around... |
| 10:42 |
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rangi |
they all involve a knowledge of marc21 |
| 10:42 |
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cait |
you have to map your csv to the proper marc21 fields |
| 10:43 |
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rangi |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]b4c59735e49737ee5 |
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Culiforge |
hmm, with all the .pl stuff I assume this is perl? I really know nothing about perl. |
| 10:47 |
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cait |
it's perl scripts that can help with conversion |
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cait |
you can also use a tool like marcedit |
| 10:48 |
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cait |
but the scripts are more flexible I think |
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Culiforge |
is there some documentation somewhere I can peruse... I don't see any type of readme or manual among the link from rangi |
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cait |
I think the manual is probably in the code |
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cait |
ye |
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cait |
p |
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cait |
it's in the file |
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cait |
look at csvtomarc |
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Culiforge |
so if I download the csvtomarc.pl.. and run it how.. to access documentation? |
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cait |
I think you will need more than that file alone |
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cait |
because it is probably using other scripts |
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cait |
running it with -h should give you documentation |
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cait |
or with man |
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Culiforge |
so.... (low curve.. remember) running it... |
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cait |
I fear I can't help you much in using it |
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cait |
because I have never used it |
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Culiforge |
but running perl scripts in general.. how do I invoke it |
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cait |
./your script |
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cait |
or |
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cait |
perl your script |
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cait |
should both work I think |
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Culiforge |
ok, thx |
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cait |
hopefully I gave you the rght answer :) |
| 11:01 |
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Culiforge |
with the ,pl extension or no |
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cait |
witz |
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cait |
with |
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Culiforge |
it tells me that it can't find csvutils.pm in @INC... what's @inc? |
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cait |
your path |
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cait |
it means you need this file too |
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Culiforge |
ok I got it.. wher should I put it? |
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cait |
I would put it in the same directory |
| 11:05 |
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cait |
because it's like that on the repo |
| 11:06 |
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Culiforge |
ahh, now comes the finding of all the files it needs.... |
| 11:08 |
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Culiforge |
am I wrong in thinking that by doing an apt search for these files it'll turn up a package with them.. or am I barking up the wrong tree with that? |
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cait |
hm I don't think those are packaged |
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cait |
not sure what it's complaining about now |
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Culiforge |
issn.pm |
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cait |
sorry - wrong person to ask |
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Culiforge |
no problem.. just trying to figure out where to look to find the files it's asking for as they're not in the git tree presently |
| 11:10 |
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cait |
if you search for csv and marc21 you will find more hints I guess |
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Culiforge |
I shall pray to the google got |
| 11:10 |
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cait |
people do it in different ways |
| 11:10 |
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Culiforge |
got |
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Culiforge |
god |
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cait |
heh |
| 11:34 |
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Culiforge |
ok.. I got it... now I just need to figure out the syntax and mapping |
| 11:38 |
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Culiforge |
so when I see something like this: [--format=*MARC format*] is the item in *-*'s variable input from me? |
| 11:39 |
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cait |
I would think so |
| 11:39 |
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cait |
replacing *MARC format* with MARC21 probably |
| 11:39 |
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cait |
but you will have to try |
| 11:39 |
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Culiforge |
alright, I'll give it a go and see what turns to mush |
| 11:42 |
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Culiforge |
hmm, it all seems easy enough.. like you said though.. knowledge of marc format needed.. back to the google altar... |
| 11:45 |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
I can point you to some common fields |
| 11:45 |
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cait |
loc.gov/marc is the official documentation |
| 11:49 |
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Culiforge |
well, let me ask you this.. if I convert isbn field to marc, can I not use the Z39.5 to search matching records? or doesn't it work that way... |
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cait |
you can search for records by isbn |
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cait |
I think there might be even a script for that in the repo |
| 12:01 |
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cait |
but it will not do it automatically |
| 12:01 |
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cait |
for all |
| 12:01 |
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cait |
you would have to do it one by one manually with koha |
| 12:01 |
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cait |
or use a script before you import the data into koha |
| 12:36 |
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Culiforge |
ok, I've got some marc records imported to koha but I can't seem to find them.. is there some process command I need to use to enter them into the catalog? |
| 12:37 |
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cait |
how have you imported them? |
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cait |
with which tool? |
| 12:37 |
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cait |
stage marc imports under tools? |
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cait |
if yes then next you want to go to tools > manage staged imports and finish your import :) |
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Culiforge |
yes, stage. followed it all and got successfully imported 56 records |
| 12:38 |
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Culiforge |
yes, did that |
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cait |
ok |
| 12:38 |
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cait |
did you set up the cronjobs for indexing? |
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cait |
does a manually imported record from z39.50 show up? |
| 12:38 |
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Culiforge |
not that i can find anywhere |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
search faq? |
| 12:39 |
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wahanui |
search faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
probably they are not imported |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
umindexed |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
sorry |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
normally the cron will pick them up and index them |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
depending on the time you have set there |
| 12:39 |
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Culiforge |
so I should set up a cron job? |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
there is an example file |
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cait |
in |
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cait |
misc/cronjobs |
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Culiforge |
do this through koha or command line |
| 12:40 |
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cait |
command line |
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Culiforge |
... where do I find misc/cronjobs? |
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cait |
in your koha folder |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
hm directory |
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Culiforge |
I have kohaclone in my home dir |
| 12:50 |
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Culiforge |
thats what the git install setup |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
in there |
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Culiforge |
crontab.example? |
| 12:52 |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
you will want to make the paths in there match yours |
| 12:53 |
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cait |
for the export lines |
| 12:53 |
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cait |
and perhaps comment out some things |
| 12:55 |
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Culiforge |
zebra index updates? |
| 12:56 |
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cait |
you want that, yes |
| 12:56 |
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Culiforge |
this is what I have */10 * * * * $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
yep |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
that should be ok |
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jcamins |
o/ |
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cait |
there are 2 lines on top |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
export... you want tohave the correct paths there |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
hi jcamins :) |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
you are so much better at this than me ... want chocolate? |
| 12:57 |
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jcamins |
Yes please! |
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* cait |
hands over some yummy swiss chocolate |
| 12:58 |
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jcamins |
Mmm. |
| 12:58 |
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jcamins |
Much needed. |
| 12:59 |
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Culiforge |
"export... you want tohave the correct paths there" I don't see anything like that |
| 12:59 |
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cait |
jcamins: can you help set up the cronjobs? |
| 12:59 |
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cait |
ah |
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jcamins |
cait: I can try. |
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cait |
Culiforge: i was wrong I think, no export but the 2 varialbes should be defined somewhere |
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cait |
jcamins knows |
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cait |
:P |
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pastebot |
"jcamins" at 98.14.120.176 pasted "Culiforge: crontab" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/204 |
| 13:02 |
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jcamins |
Whoops, let me try that again. |
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* jcamins |
is still mostly asleep. |
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pastebot |
"jcamins" at 98.14.120.176 pasted "Culiforge: crontab" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/205 |
| 13:02 |
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jcamins |
There we go. |
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jcamins |
Change /home/culiforge/kohaclone to point to your actual kohaclone, and /home/culiforge/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml to point to your actual koha-conf.xml. |
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wahanui |
jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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jcamins |
change something to something else |
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wahanui |
jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! The wahanui bug has reappeared and I can take out my frustration on it. |
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Culiforge |
I don't have a koha-dev in my home folder... |
| 13:07 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: change it to wherever you did install Koha. |
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wahanui |
jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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Culiforge |
/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml does that seem right? |
| 13:11 |
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Culiforge |
there's only one koha-conf.xml file right? |
| 13:12 |
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jcamins |
That sounds right. |
| 13:13 |
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jcamins |
In that case, instead of ~/kohaclone you probably want /usr/share/koha |
| 13:14 |
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Culiforge |
and the */5 line goes under the zebra index updates section? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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Culiforge |
I'm not finding migration_tools |
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Culiforge |
/migration_tools/ that is |
| 13:19 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: well, in that case run `find / -name "rebuild_zebra.pl" -print` and use that as the path. |
| 13:22 |
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Culiforge |
/home/gary/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 13:22 |
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Culiforge |
/home/gary/kohaclone/blib/SCRIPT_NONDEV_DIR/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 13:22 |
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Culiforge |
/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 13:22 |
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cait |
It's in the same folder |
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cait |
as the cronjobs directoy |
| 13:22 |
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cait |
in the same directory... |
| 13:23 |
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cait |
ok |
| 13:23 |
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cait |
I am confused now |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: in that case use /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 13:25 |
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Culiforge |
ok, to clarify.. since I used the git install instrucions.. should I be looking at all in kohaclone... it should be ins just a koha dir right? |
| 13:25 |
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jcamins |
No. If you used a "dev" install, you use what's in kohaclone. |
| 13:25 |
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jcamins |
If you used a "standard" install, you use the standard bit. |
| 13:26 |
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Culiforge |
standard here |
| 13:26 |
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Culiforge |
so koha and not kohaclone then? |
| 13:26 |
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jcamins |
/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl it is. |
| 13:27 |
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Culiforge |
so my zebra section line looks like => */5 * * * * /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null |
| 13:28 |
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jcamins |
Looks good to me. |
| 13:29 |
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Culiforge |
so now we save the file as ? and in the usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs ? |
| 13:30 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: I thought you were editing your crontab. |
| 13:30 |
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Culiforge |
cait had me open the crontab.example |
| 13:30 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: I suggest reading `man 5 crontab` |
| 13:31 |
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Culiforge |
will do |
| 13:31 |
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Culiforge |
so we're not saving anything we've just done |
| 13:31 |
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cait |
you can change the example and copy from that later |
| 13:32 |
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Culiforge |
right |
| 13:32 |
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cait |
I would save it |
| 13:32 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that would be a good idea. |
| 13:32 |
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Culiforge |
so i'll save it on my desktop then after I checkout the man 5 crontab I "should" know which end is up? |
| 13:33 |
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jcamins |
Yes, that should clarify things for you. |
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Culiforge |
rock on... thanks you two |
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Culiforge |
time for me to go.. enjoy your day |
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jcamins |
You too. |
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cait |
bye Culiforge |
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jcamins |
Cheese bread is a truly inspired concept. |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
yum |
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Culiforge |
ok, I read the man.. I'm understanding much better now what's going on |
| 14:21 |
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Culiforge |
from what I think I understand, running: /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null should update indexes right away correct? |
| 14:21 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 14:21 |
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jcamins |
You'll have to decide which crontab to put it in based on which user you're running Koha as. |
| 14:21 |
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Culiforge |
and the crontab line you provided updates it every 5 min. correct? |
| 14:21 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
| 14:22 |
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Culiforge |
it may just be me not quite understanding how things are done but every 5 min seems quite often... or is that the norm |
| 14:22 |
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* jcamins |
runs it every five minutes. |
| 14:23 |
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jcamins |
Actually, I often run it from the command line because I don't want to wait five minutes for changes to show up. |
| 14:24 |
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Culiforge |
that makes sense too |
| 14:24 |
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Culiforge |
one problem though. when I run: /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null I get: http://pastebin.com/PurbGtg2 |
| 14:25 |
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jcamins |
You need to do `export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml` and `export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib` (or whatever the proper paths are) |
| 14:26 |
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jcamins |
(in the crontab, remove the "export") |
| 14:26 |
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Culiforge |
so for my sanity, what does that do? |
| 14:27 |
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jcamins |
That sets two variables. |
| 14:27 |
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jcamins |
PERL5LIB makes sure that the Perl interpreter knows where to find the Koha LIBraries (C4::whatever). |
| 14:28 |
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jcamins |
KOHA_CONF tells the system where to find the configuration file. |
| 14:34 |
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Culiforge |
so running rubuild_zebra.pl from command line I get : http://pastebin.com/wi1WU04C |
| 14:35 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: you need to run it as the same user you're running Koha as. |
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Culiforge |
yes, I'm doing so.. this user is the same |
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druthb |
o/ |
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Culiforge |
or does it need to be the koha user (as in the one actually named koha) |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: that error mesage means that Koha is running as a different user. |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
Yes, the Koha user. |
| 14:37 |
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jcamins |
If you have a user called koha, that's the one you need to be running it as. |
| 14:38 |
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Culiforge |
nope, currently I'm the only user in the system |
| 14:38 |
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Culiforge |
so when I setup I made gary the default koha user |
| 14:39 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: hm. Perhaps you set the Zebra up to be owned by root accidentally. |
| 14:40 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: the problem is definitely permissions. I'd suggest reviewing all the instructions, see if you missed a step. |
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Culiforge |
are we talking system user or koha user... I created a second koha admin for within koha so as to not run in there as root |
| 14:41 |
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jcamins |
System user. |
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Culiforge |
.. I just logged out my superlibrarian and back in with first account and indexes updated... |
| 14:44 |
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jcamins |
Well, good! |
| 14:46 |
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Culiforge |
indeed, but i'm still not finding the marc records I imported |
| 14:46 |
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jcamins |
searching faq? |
| 14:46 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 14:46 |
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jcamins |
That's a good document to look at. |
| 14:48 |
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druthb |
wahanui: druthb? |
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wahanui |
She finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
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druthb |
okay, just checkin'. |
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Culiforge |
ok, I think zebraqueue daemon was setup during install.. |
| 14:52 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: ah. |
| 14:53 |
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jcamins |
You need to disable that. |
| 14:53 |
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Culiforge |
someone pointed out that it was no longer appropriate but since I was just following the gin install instructions.. it was already done |
| 14:54 |
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Culiforge |
gin/git |
| 14:55 |
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Culiforge |
so the faq reveals what the problem is.. where can I find out how to undo it? |
| 14:55 |
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jcamins |
sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebraqueuedaemon stop |
| 14:56 |
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jcamins |
(or whatever the command is) |
| 14:56 |
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jcamins |
sudo rm ${said command} |
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jcamins |
Remembe, I have never used Zebraqueue daemon. |
| 14:56 |
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jcamins |
So you might need to look around a bit to figure out what the zebraqueue script in init.d is called. |
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Culiforge |
looking now |
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Culiforge |
koha-zebra-daemon is what it's called |
| 15:00 |
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jcamins |
That sounds right. |
| 15:01 |
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jcamins |
Wait, no it doesn't. |
| 15:01 |
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jcamins |
That's the zebra daemon, not the zebraqueue daemon. |
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Culiforge |
nope, not it |
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Culiforge |
just stopped zebra server |
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Culiforge |
hehe :) |
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Culiforge |
haha, looking some more |
| 15:05 |
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Culiforge |
so to back up a bit... on my system, i'm logged in as i am, as the primary koha user.. in koha I was logged in as my user/patron/librarian and it wouldn't pass the index update. but when I logged into koha as my originally created user (the one people said not to use for general running) it passed. |
| 15:13 |
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Culiforge |
I find a koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh and a zebraqueue_daemon.pl |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh is probably what you're looking for. |
| 15:14 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: I'm not really sure what the problem is. |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: regardless, I need to focus on work for my paying clients now. |
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Culiforge |
right on, take care |
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jcamins |
Good luck. |
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Culiforge |
thanks |
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jcamins |
Better begin the process of getting us out of the city for my grandfather's birthday party. |
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jcamins |
Have a good day, #koha. |
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cait |
have fun jcamins_away :) |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.6�C (9:54 PM CET on January 15, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder 66049 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 17.4�C (3:24 PM CST on January 15, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.1�C (11:05 PM CET on January 15, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Steady). |
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