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00:54 rangi hmm sounds like the person doing a blender tutorial is wowing the academy
01:08 ibeardslee I got myself a bit lost, and have stopped so he can focus on the students :(
01:10 rangi heh
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01:52 Culiforge could someone verify one of the steps on[…]ntu.lucid;hb=HEAD for me? lines 99 and 100... is that supposed to be all one line?
01:52 Culiforge trying to pick up where I left off this morning with my install
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03:14 rangi the \ means it can span 2 lines, but you can put it all on one line if you want
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05:09 mtj heya peeps
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07:22 rangi hi magnuse
07:22 cait goo dmorning magnuse - you are late :)
07:22 cait ;)
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07:23 magnuse not that late, for me, i think?
07:23 magnuse and hiya rangi
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07:25 cait magnuse: only joking :)
07:25 alex_a morning koha :)
07:26 magnuse cait: yay
07:26 magnuse vonjour alex_a
07:26 magnuse or bonjour, your choice
07:26 cait hi alex_a :)
07:26 alex_a :D
07:27 alex_a hello cait magnuse
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10:46 Culiforge hello all
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11:03 Culiforge so a little while back, I attempted to install Koha and was unsuccessful. Primarily because I set up the mysql users and passwords incorrectly (at least I think that's what the problem was). Is there a specific user and/or pwd I need to have for proper database access?
11:04 magnuse Culiforge: nothing specific - but you need what is in your koha-conf.xml to match the database you set up for koha to use
11:09 Culiforge magnuse: yeah, that was the issue last time... whatever install tut I used last time had defaults setup and I was confused by the prompts as far as what to put where.
11:09 magnuse been there, done that ;-)
11:10 Culiforge so with the install are there defaults that I should use to make it easier? this will be a test install, pretty much just for me until I can make it live....
11:11 Culiforge i'm currently at line 123 on the lucid install page...
11:11 magnuse when you run Makefile.PL it will suggest defaults, but it's much safer to use something you make up yourself, especially id this will eventually be a public installation
11:12 magnuse s/id/if/
11:12 Culiforge or am I over thinking it?
11:13 Culiforge s/id/if/? I don't understand
11:13 magnuse sorry, i wrote id when i meant if
11:14 Culiforge ok
11:14 magnuse s/id/if/ is how you'd replace the first thing with the second thing in perl :-)
11:15 Culiforge ahh, I see. so I'm at : 2.2 Create the Koha database
11:15 Culiforge 128
11:15 Culiforge 129     Create the database and user with associated privileges:
11:15 Culiforge 130
11:15 Culiforge 131     $ mysqladmin -uroot -p<password> create <kohadatabasename>
11:15 Culiforge 132     $ mysql -uroot -p<password>
11:16 Culiforge I can make this whatever I want but I'll have to change it in the xml file later right, so they match?
11:16 magnuse you can make <kohadatabasename> whatever you want
11:16 magnuse you don't have to edit the xml by hand, you have to remember it for when you run Makefile.PL
11:16 Culiforge or rather during the makefile step, ensure that they match?
11:17 magnuse that script will ask for the db info
11:18 magnuse ...and create the xml file for you
11:18 Culiforge should I [space] between -p and <password>? I know spaces are important
11:19 paul_p passed QA (patches to push) queue is empty ! (just 1 waiting for a unit test) !
11:19 magnuse paul_p++
11:19 Culiforge or is that the password for the -uroot command?
11:19 magnuse Culiforge: you can also type mysql -u root -p
11:20 magnuse -u is an option that you use to give the mysql username you want to log in as
11:20 Culiforge when dselect configured mysql I left it open
11:20 magnuse and it is a bit safer to just type -p - then you will be prompted for the password of the root user and it will not be in your history file etc
11:21 magnuse ah, i think "mysql -u root -p" should work then
11:21 magnuse but not having a password for the root user in mysql is a bad idea if this install is ever going to be used for anything outside your local machine :-)
11:23 Culiforge I understand.. I've already gone down that road so I'll burn that bridge when I get to it
11:23 magnuse hehe
11:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7396: Debarred message not showing over SIP2 <[…]41ddcc0aaf5613fe4> / Bug 7381 - wrong isbn showing on the staff search results <[…]7a8501de56228b256> / Bug 7363: allows downloading of lists in CSV format <;
11:23 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7169] Change booksellers search results display <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7169>
11:25 Culiforge mysql> grant all on <kohadatabasename>.* to '<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>'; so <kohadatabasename> is what I just named it, <kohadabaseuser> is the acct I use locally for admin and whatnot?
11:26 magnuse <kohadatabasename> must match what you used in the previous command
11:26 magnuse <kohadatabaseuser> can be anything
11:26 magnuse it will be in the xml file
11:27 magnuse and you will use it the first time you log into the web ui + whenever you need to uograde the database later on
11:27 magnuse but you should not use it for regularly logging into koha - the first thing you should do after installation is to create a regular user that you use for everything else
11:27 Culiforge ok, single quotes..  need to be there right? around 'user'@'localhost'?
11:27 magnuse yup
11:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #587 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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11:37 Culiforge so the tutorial so far has had everything in kohaclone.. now makefile wants to create /usr/share/koha... kohaclone is just the "install from" directory right? and koha is where the actual program will be?
11:38 magnuse yup
11:38 magnuse if you do a standard install, files will be put in appropriate places "all over" the filesystem
11:38 Culiforge sorry for remedial questions... I just want to make sure I know what's going on so when I mess it up I can explain what I did :)
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11:39 magnuse Culiforge: no problem - and a good plan! ;-)
11:42 Culiforge see, I messed up already... under specify the name of database I hit enter for default [koha]. so now after install is done, I need to edit something to set it properly right?
11:43 magnuse yup, you need to edit koha-conf.xml
11:43 magnuse /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml if i remember correctly
11:43 Culiforge after all the makefile stuff is done right?
11:43 magnuse yup
11:44 magnuse or you could Ctrl+c to stop the makefile and run it again
11:44 Culiforge that's probably easier... since this is all new to me
11:45 magnuse yeah. might be
11:46 Culiforge ok, user account.. default is [koha] leave it or should it be the <kohadatabaseuser> I created earlier?
11:50 magnuse it should
11:51 Culiforge should... be acct I made earlier?
11:51 magnuse yes
11:51 magnuse user account = <kohadatabaseuser>
11:52 Culiforge but let it create group koha right?
11:52 magnuse ah, maybe i'm leading you astray here
11:53 Culiforge uh-oh
11:53 Culiforge don't do that, i'm fragile
11:54 magnuse sorry!
11:54 Culiforge hehe
11:54 magnuse user account = the linux user that will own the koha files
11:54 magnuse i think the recommendation is to use a user named koha for that
11:54 magnuse it will ask you for "the user that owns the database" later on
11:55 Culiforge right, that's where I'm at.. a user, but not root.. file owner and database owner can be the same as long as they're not root?
11:55 Culiforge linux root, not mysql root
11:56 magnuse they will be two separate users, but you can give them the same name
11:56 magnuse linux users and mysql users are separate entities, even if they have the same name
11:57 Culiforge ok, good, we're still on track.. so group [koha]? leave as default?
11:57 magnuse yup
11:58 Culiforge database server [localhost] default or should I use my full machine address?
11:58 magnuse localhost should do
11:58 magnuse if you just installed mysql locally
11:59 magnuse and i bet you did :-)
11:59 Culiforge smart money,, I did
12:00 magnuse yay!
12:01 Culiforge pazpar2? default is no
12:01 Culiforge leave it?
12:01 magnuse yeah
12:10 Culiforge
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12:11 Culiforge is that an issue?
12:12 magnuse ah yes, you will have to install those by hand
12:12 magnuse you are on ubuntu, right?
12:12 Culiforge yes
12:12 Culiforge good memory
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12:13 magnuse INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid says :
12:13 magnuse 97 Run the following command:
12:13 magnuse 98
12:13 magnuse 99     $ sudo cpan HTTP::OAI Locale::Currency::Format Memoize::Memcached \
12:13 magnuse 100                 PDF::API2::Simple Storable Text::CSV::Encoded
12:13 magnuse did you do that?
12:14 magnuse you need to install the ones that missing from cpan
12:14 magnuse tp be precise, you only need CGI::Session::Driver::memcached and Memoize::Memcached if you are going to use memcached (i wouldn't worry about that yet...)
12:15 magnuse you need PDF::API2::Simple if you are going to create PDFs for labels and patron cards
12:15 magnuse i think template will mostly work with version 2.20, but you will not get zebra stripes on search results, so getting 2.22 is better
12:16 Culiforge ok, scrolling back to sudo cpan command to see what errors were
12:16 magnuse you need Gravatar::URL if you want to turn gravatars in the opac
12:16 magnuse so Business::ISBN is the most important one
12:16 magnuse but i would get the others too, if i were you
12:17 magnuse good training :-)
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12:18 magnuse sorry, time for me to go afk for a couple hours, bbl!
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12:18 Culiforge ok, thx for help
12:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #587: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/587/
12:23 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5358: Show cancelled orders in basket page
12:23 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: BUG 6098 zebra conf NSB NSE indexed as space
12:23 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6098 Followup -- doesn't replace NSB/NSE by space
12:23 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Add MARC21 field 545 to to framework fix bug 5226
12:23 jenkins_koha * katrin.fischer: Bug 5226: Follow up to new/awaiting_qa/bug_5226
12:23 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 5226: Add 545 to es-ES and nb-NO
12:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5358 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , keep track of cancelled orders
12:23 jenkins_koha * Bug 7367: Add space before display of languages.
12:23 jenkins_koha * Bug 7368: Correct spelling of merge authorities job in pref file.
12:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6098 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fridolyn.somers, ASSIGNED , zebra conf NSB NSE indexed as space
12:23 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7373 - Add 5 new icons to Bridge Set
12:23 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7375 - Update minimum version of Perl to 5.10
12:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5226 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, koha, ASSIGNED , MARC21 field 545 missing
12:23 jenkins_koha * duncan: Bug 7348 - Fixed error for serial toolbar buttons in IE7
12:23 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug6716 - document the aqbooksellers table
12:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7367 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED , General OPAC typo omnibus
12:23 jenkins_koha * 6717 Documenting need_merge_authorities table
12:23 jenkins_koha * marc: Bug 7356 - Fix various typos and mis-spellings
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7373 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , new bridge icons
12:24 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 7360 Import Default framework into other deletes default Framework
12:24 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7363: allows downloading of lists in CSV format
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7375 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Update minimum version of Perl to 5.10
12:24 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7381 - wrong isbn showing on the staff search results
12:24 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7396: Debarred message not showing over SIP2
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7348 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, duncan, ASSIGNED , Fix error in IE where the serials toolbar buttons do not show.
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7356 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, marc, RESOLVED FIXED, Fix various typos and mis-spellings
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7360 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Importing a SQL file for frameworks based on Default Framework deletes the default framework
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7363 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Downloading a list in CSV format doesn't work
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7381 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , wrong isbn showing on the staff search results
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7396 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Debarred message not displayed over SIP2
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13:22 Oak kia ora #koha
13:24 kf hi Oak :)
13:24 jcamins_away Oak. oleonard. kf. Everyone else.
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13:24 jcamins kf: I'm supposed to remind you something.
13:33 Oak hello kf :)
13:34 Oak jcamins.
13:34 wahanui jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra
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13:41 schuster Ola! everyone!  it's happy Friday for me!
13:41 schuster Going into a 3 day weekend with Martin Luther King day on Monday...
13:42 schuster Anyone else going to be at ALA Midwinter next weekend? Jan 20-21?
13:43 oleonard Some ByWater folks I'll wager.
13:43 kf paul_p: I noticed lots of bugs needs testing for unimarc - is there a test database somehwere?
13:44 kf paul_p: some unimarc test data would be great, records at least
13:44 kf hi oleonard :)
13:44 paul_p kf, I have a large (20k record) unimarc database I use for my tests.
13:45 schuster Yep ByWater++
13:49 kf paul_p: could you provide that somewhere for download?
13:50 paul_p kf, if will be in my sandbox system. That's a good idea though = I think i've anonymized it, but a 2nd look would be great.
13:50 paul_p kf, I propose to give it to you privately now, and, if you confirm there is no more emails/phone/..., then i'll be able to use it
13:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7442] Crash when selecting an authority with 200$x or 200$y <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7442>
13:50 paul_p kf, sounds like a plan ?
13:51 kf if that's ok for you
13:51 kf I can check
14:04 schuster I thought chris_n was gathering data of this nature for "testing" things just like this?
14:04 oleonard This is unimarc schuster
14:05 schuster Yeah, but I thought he was trying to gather data to have for testing unimarc etc...  never mind I'll leave it alone.
14:05 schuster Just wondering out loud on a Friday.
14:05 oleonard Maybe so schuster
14:06 jcamins schuster: I think paul_p's dataset is the UNIMARC test data that chris_n was hoping to use.
14:07 * oleonard is out of the loop
14:16 kf can someone confirm that notifys is no longer used? (database table)
14:18 tcohen is there a reason not to split things like into etc?
14:19 kf hm perhaps because they use the same template? not sure that is a reason though
14:20 tcohen i have some noise in my brain with all this giant front scripts that happen to have a big if, elsif
14:22 jcamins tcohen: no reason I can think of, but better to ask someone else.
14:23 oleonard Is there any place in Koha where the edit script is separate from the add script?
14:23 jcamins oleonard: probably not, but it might be a good idea if it were. tcohen has a point about massive if-elsif blocks.
14:23 kf hm not that I am aware of
14:23 wahanui i already had it that way, kf.
14:23 jcamins hm?
14:23 kf hm
14:23 kf hehe
14:23 jcamins hm not that I?
14:23 jcamins hm not that kf?
14:23 wahanui not that kf is, like, aware of
14:23 kf ok?
14:24 jcamins Heh.
14:24 jcamins wahanui: forget hm not that kf
14:24 wahanui jcamins, I didn't have anything matching hm not that kf
14:24 jcamins wahanui: forget not that kf
14:24 wahanui jcamins: I forgot not that kf
14:24 jcamins hm not that kf?
14:24 jcamins Fixed.
14:25 kf thank you :)
14:27 paul_p kf, I try to send a sqldump to a place you could upload it, but I have some problems...
14:28 kf hm
14:28 paul_p seems my webdav link does not work...
14:28 kf printers still used?
14:28 paul_p i'll let you know when it's OK, probably by mail
14:28 kf ok
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14:41 kf ok
14:41 kf any opinion on the table printers?
14:42 oleonard I know the section of the template that used to display a printer chooser has been commented out for quite a while now
14:42 kf oleonard: yep, I think it could be related to the feature
14:42 kf but was not sure if it's perhaps used for label printing
14:43 kf it has printername, printqueue and printtype
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14:44 oleonard /cgi-bin/koha/admin/
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14:46 oleonard kf: I'd say all that stuff can be removed (the table, the admin script, the references in
14:46 kf ok
14:46 kf I will add notifys and printers to the db schema bugs page
14:46 kf as candidates for removal
14:46 * oleonard waves from out on the end of this limb
14:46 kf but I found out what alert is used for :)
14:46 kf huh?
14:47 oleonard From the phrase "to go out on a limb," take a risk.
14:48 kf hmm
14:48 kf sorry, don't get it
14:53 schuster kf oleonard - seems like printers also has something to do with when you "set" your library doesn't it?  Just something rolling around in the back of my brain about that.
14:53 oleonard Yeah, the printer selection used to be on the same page as the branch selection
14:53 oleonard Hence
14:53 kf yep
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14:53 kf but it's been gone for a long time now
14:54 kf I think perhaps 3.0/3.2?
14:54 oleonard And it only worked with UNIX printers?
14:54 schuster Ah well as long wiping things out doesn't break that funcationality I don't have a problem with it!  It was before my time so pre 3.0!
14:54 oleonard Something like that. rangi would remember.
14:55 magnuse getting rid of obsolete code FTW!
14:55 schuster AH the historical community remembrance...  one of the MANY reasons we like to keep rangi around!
14:56 schuster jcamins must have started something with that noZebra discussion yesterday!
14:56 jcamins Hooray!
14:56 kf hehe
14:56 kf make it work or get rid of it
14:56 kf anyone fond of ethnotes and ethnicity?
14:57 asaurat :D
14:57 kf it's in borrowers and we also have a table called ethnicity...
14:57 * magnuse always wonderes why they are there
14:57 kf I didn't care
14:57 asaurat surprised me first time I saw this =)
14:57 magnuse wow, a whole table?
14:57 kf but for the privacy documents I have to state we don't use them...
14:58 oleonard Everyone is surprised by the ethnicity table, but it was a requirement in NZ
14:58 oleonard I don't know if that has changed or not
14:58 magnuse would be interesting to know
15:00 kf ok
15:00 kf added my suspects to the wiki :)
15:00 Guest23874 oh hlt uses printers
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15:01 oleonard Oh yeah, still?
15:01 wizzyrea afaik
15:01 wizzyrea rangi would know for sure, but the last time I did anything with set library I was reminded of this fact
15:01 wizzyrea which wasn't all that long ago
15:02 wizzyrea 6mo maybe?
15:03 wizzyrea LibreOffice++ for opening xlsx
15:03 kf hm
15:03 kf perhaps he can make it work then?
15:03 kf because at the moment I see no way to use it
15:11 schuster jcamins - what are your thoughts on RDA and Koha?
15:12 schuster Or if you have posted if you want to point me there...
15:13 jcamins schuster: We've got a bit of work ahead of us.
15:14 schuster I think in the whole community not just Koha...  I don't want Koha though to be thought of "oh that doesn't handle RDA" so ignore it.
15:14 jcamins Right.
15:15 schuster I'm still a little baffled on how it would "look" in Koha... Conceptually.
15:15 kf does someone know what reserveconstraints does?
15:15 * jcamins sneezes a lot.
15:15 kf :(
15:15 jcamins I hate colds.
15:15 * kf hands you paper tissues
15:16 schuster Zinc tablets...
15:16 jcamins schuster: well, record linking is going to be a much bigger issue.
15:17 jcamins That's really what RDA is all about.
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15:22 schuster jcamins yes and the work you are doing is a great step forward in that...
15:23 schuster jcamins - in your work with marc export - did you set it to NOT export the $9 in the authority fields?
15:24 jcamins schuster: yeah, it's a start. We also need relationships between bibs to be more meaningful.
15:24 jcamins schuster: that is an option now. kf did a follow-up patch.
15:24 jcamins (that puts it in the UI)
15:25 gmcharlt @quote get 123
15:25 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
15:26 jcamins schuster: bug 7392 adds the system preference.
15:26 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7392 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add system preference to configure export options for OPAC detail page
15:26 jcamins schuster: the other thing that I think is critical is relator terms.
15:26 jcamins We don't do a thing with them now, and they're in many ways the raison d'etre for RDA.
15:27 * jcamins reflects on the importance of RDA as distilled in that statement.
15:27 jcamins Seems accurate, no?
15:32 schuster jcamins yes relator terms are very important, but how those links would be created...  I see lots of work reflecting on existing data in order to make it work.  Very little machine automation.
15:33 schuster Watching the RDA-Toolkit presentation webinar from November.
15:35 jcamins schuster: It's a problem, but we could at least make some use of relator terms that we do have.
15:42 jcamins gmcharlt: around?
15:42 gmcharlt jcamins: yes
15:43 jcamins gmcharlt: is there a way to delete the _last_ subfield from a MARC::Field object?
15:44 rhcl Raison d'�tre, a Swedish dark-ambient-industrial-drone music project  de wikipedia
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15:49 kf wizzyrea: around?
15:49 wizzyrea i am
15:49 wizzyrea sup
15:50 kf I think he did it
15:50 wizzyrea for the slips
15:50 kf Srdjan: I have changed slip printing so branch is taken from the session.
15:50 wizzyrea not for the notices
15:50 kf ah
15:50 kf but notices are sent out later - I think the staff member is not interesting there probably?
15:50 wizzyrea slips = probably 80% of that problem though
15:50 kf moe where the checkout has happened?
15:50 wizzyrea yea, it's for a different bug though
15:51 kf ok
15:51 kf only wondering :)
15:51 wizzyrea but thank you for helping me convince him :)
15:51 kf np - I totally agree it should be that way
15:52 wizzyrea if you can imagine - a library system where all staff members have a home library of "Central office" but they all have set libraries of the branch they are att
15:52 wizzyrea all of the email notices for checkout would come from "Central office"
15:52 wizzyrea = uh bad.
15:52 kf I can see people working at different branches here
15:52 kf for public libraries, half time there, half time there
15:52 wizzyrea but - that is not how *most* places do it
15:52 kf no
15:52 kf edge case?
15:52 kf perhaps
15:52 wizzyrea the situation you just enumerated is the other situation
15:52 wizzyrea that this would come into play
15:53 wizzyrea making the set library follow the home library would be one way to handle it
15:53 wizzyrea for "staff" class patrons
15:53 wizzyrea s/accounts/patrons/
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15:53 gmcharlt jcamins: awkwardly, but yes
15:54 wizzyrea at the very least document that there is a difference
15:54 gmcharlt $field->delete_subfield(code => ['a', 'b', ..., 'z', '0', '1', ... '9'])
15:54 wizzyrea it had never occurred to me that *anything* would pull from the home library of the logged in user, instead of the set library
15:55 jcamins gmcharlt: but how do we make sure that's the very last subfield?
15:55 wizzyrea makes perfect sense to do that on the staff side
15:55 wizzyrea er
15:55 wizzyrea OPAC
15:55 wizzyrea but of course there is no "set library" on the opac.
15:55 * wizzyrea stops talking now
15:55 gmcharlt jcamins: $listref = $marc->subfields(); @$listref == 0
15:56 jcamins gmcharlt: sorry, badly worded question.
15:56 gmcharlt jcamins: right, sorry, the light is dawning
15:56 jcamins gmcharlt: if I have the following field: =650  ##$aSubject$y19th century$vJuvenile fiction
15:57 jcamins I want to delete the subfield $v.
16:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7434] Display of issue number for serials in overdues <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7434>
16:04 gmcharlt $sfs = $field->subfields(); pop @$sfs; $field->replace_with(MARC::Field->new($field->tag, $field->indicator(1), $field->indicator(2), map { $_[0] => $_[1] } @$sfs));
16:04 gmcharlt ... or something like that
16:04 jcamins Ah. Thanks.
16:04 wizzyrea gmcharlt++  : lordie you're brilliant.
16:04 jcamins I would not have worked that out.
16:04 gmcharlt cleaner would be a patch to MARC::Field->delete_subfields() to let it be called with only the pos parameter
16:06 kf wizzyrea: making them follow seems difficult to me - requires database updates each time you change the library, not logging out... when will the library be reset? and so on
16:06 oleonard paul_p: I attached a rebased patch to Bug 7127, don't know if you want to wait for another signoff or not...
16:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Templates must be valid XHTML
16:07 wizzyrea well yea, I was trying to think of a way to fix it so that anything that required home library wouldn't break
16:07 paul_p oleonard, no, I just want the answer to my question to chris (ie= is there a unit test), but that does not prevent me from pushing !
16:07 wizzyrea but it would be easier to just make everything follow set library, imo
16:07 * paul_p pushes 929, then head to 7430, then 7127 ...
16:07 wizzyrea finding all the things is the challenge there
16:08 oleonard paul_p: I would be interested in the answer to that too! I always test from the browser, which isn't practical for the RM
16:08 wizzyrea frankly I was surprised to find that *anything* even *considered* the home library of the logged in patron
16:08 wizzyrea I made a (bad) assumption that it all followed set library
16:09 kf hmno
16:09 kf not bad at all
16:09 kf it should be consistent :P
16:09 wizzyrea (for the staff client - it makes perfect sense to do that in the OPAC)
16:09 wizzyrea well yes
16:09 wizzyrea :)
16:09 jcamins paul_p: don't push 7430!
16:10 paul_p yikes ! SQL query directly in a .pl ! I missed it & sekjal missed it too !!! it's forbidden ! 929 failed QA !
16:10 paul_p jcamins, I haven't said i'll push it, i'm heading to test & check it.
16:10 jcamins Okay.
16:10 jcamins Good.
16:10 jcamins Carry on.
16:10 jcamins Looking at it is exactly what I was hoping for. :)
16:11 kf paul_p: *sigh*
16:11 kf paul_p: you are aware we do that in other places too?
16:11 kf like reports?
16:11 kf and it's basically a report
16:11 kf no updates or changes
16:11 kf only display
16:11 jcamins It won't apply cleanly right now. I'll send a revised patch once you look at it and tell me it's not a totally dumb idea.
16:12 jcamins Or, you know, I won't send a revised patch if you tell me it is a totally dumb idea. ;)
16:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7175] Improve order receiving page <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7175> / [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127>
16:13 * wizzyrea does not recall jcamins ever having a *totally* dumb idea
16:13 jcamins wizzyrea: did you look at bug 7430?
16:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio
16:13 * oleonard remembers that one time jcamins let a pigeon drive the bus...
16:14 * wizzyrea giggles
16:14 schuster LOL!  Not the PIGEON!
16:14 jcamins What can I say? It seemed like a good idea at the time.
16:16 kf paul_p: still around? :)
16:16 paul_p kf, yes. and that's bad. for a totally new script, I don't think it must be accepted.
16:16 paul_p kf, yes.
16:16 kf it's nto totally new
16:16 kf it was deleted
16:16 kf by biblibre
16:16 kf and chris brought it back
16:17 paul_p really ? we deleted a script ?
16:17 kf big regression when introducing new acq
16:17 kf i have pointed that out like forever... and it worried me a lot
16:17 paul_p (I even didn't knew it has ever be here)
16:17 kf it's a long time now
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16:19 oleonard Can you git blame a specific commit, or tag, or something?
16:19 kf that's long ago
16:19 kf I can try
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16:20 kf onyl saying it's not a new feature
16:20 kf it's regression fixing
16:21 kf[…]a8b081658c3a8140f
16:25 kf other traces of the feature:
16:26 kf bug 2703
16:26 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2703 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Clicking Spent on Budget Shows Nothing
16:26 kf bug 3080
16:26 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3080 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, RESOLVED INVALID, "spent" of budget and funds doesn't work
16:27 kf paul_p: it was there when I first showed acq to a library... in dec 2008(?) I think - they loved it and have been asking for it ever since
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16:33 paul_p kf, OK, i'll push, but not because it's a kind of stat, where SQL is OK, but because it reintroduces a file that has been removed, and the file had the mistake
16:33 paul_p i'll also ask chris for a kind follow-up ;-)
16:33 kf paul_p: still very glad
16:33 kf :)
16:33 kf thank you
16:34 magnuse yay
16:34 kf I think a lot of those report pages could be rebuilt better
16:34 kf mos tof them are not really accurate :(
16:36 kf andnow time for weekend :)
16:36 kf bye all!
16:38 magnuse bya kf
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16:39 Oak magnuse
16:39 magnuse Oak
16:47 reiveune bye
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16:47 wizzyrea bye
16:47 wizzyrea never fast enough.
16:52 magnuse oops. choose another language than english in the opac. go to tag cloud. click on a tag. "Language 'sv-se' does not exist" (for example)
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16:54 tcohen[…]ife-bent-objects/
16:54 magnuse hm, works in 3.4.6, not in 3.6.2
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16:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_929' <[…]1c058939c8cb76bf0> / Bug 929 small follow-up (mistake in POD) <[…]7c0db99a0169980b2> / Bug 929 : Follow up adding unit tests, discovered C4::Dates cached the syspref with... <
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16:58 paul_p leaving now, see you next week #koha !!!
16:58 magnuse have fun paul_p!
16:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #588 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:04 tcohen bye paul_p
17:08 jcamins Anyone around who knows about editing system preferences?
17:08 jcamins I mean, the descriptions.
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17:09 magnuse jcamins: ask, don't ask to ask ;-)
17:09 jcamins Never mind, I figured it out.
17:09 magnuse yay!
17:09 jcamins I was taking screenshots to explain my problem.
17:10 jcamins It turns out you can't include a : in descriptions.
17:12 jcamins Okay... that's odd.
17:13 jcamins Don't use split '|'
17:13 magnuse which description? in the .conf file?
17:13 jcamins .pref.
17:13 magnuse ah yes, sorry
17:14 jcamins If you want to split on '|' use split /\|/
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17:18 cait back
17:18 jcamins Bother. I'm using MARC::Field::subfields() wrong.
17:22 Oak welcomen back cait :)
17:23 Oak and good night...
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17:24 cait oh
17:26 magnuse ?
17:26 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza (and bread)
17:27 magnuse is now known as magnus_afk
17:50 tcohen which perlcritic level should we use?
17:51 * oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel
17:51 * wizzyrea laughs
17:52 * jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf.
17:52 magnus_afk "all Perl submitted must validate perlcritic (level 5, the lowest one)"[…]Coding_Guidelines
17:52 tcohen thanks magnus_afk
17:52 wizzyrea @quote add *oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel *jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf.
17:52 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #181 added.
17:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #588: UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/588/
17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Reinstating the breakdown of budgets
17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Follow up, making some improvements to the spent page More to come
17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Last follow up, implementing the last of Katrins suggestions
17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Followup fixing date formatting
17:53 huginn Bug[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=929 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , See details of a budget
17:53 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 929: Follow up - showing fund code instead of internal number
17:53 jenkins_koha * Bug 7240: Cleaning up import tables and action_logs
17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929: Follow up adding the Koha:: namespace to the list of modules to test
17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Follow up adding unit tests, discovered C4::Dates cached the syspref with no way to clear it, fixed also.
17:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7240 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED , Cleaning up import tables and action_logs
17:53 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 929 small follow-up (mistake in POD)
17:53 wizzyrea perlcritic level is <reply>  "all Perl submitted must validate perlcritic (level 5, the lowest one)"[…]Coding_Guidelines
17:53 wizzyrea perlcritic level?
17:53 wahanui "all Perl submitted must validate perlcritic (level 5, the lowest one)"[…]Coding_Guidelines
17:53 wizzyrea unstable WHAT
17:54 wizzyrea templates tests :(
17:54 jcamins Alas. Well, at least I didn't have a patch go in for the last build.
17:54 jcamins :P
17:55 cait and it's 929
17:55 cait *sigh*
17:55 wizzyrea doh
17:55 cait yeah
17:55 cait doh
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18:00 tcohen bye, have a nice weekend
18:01 wizzyrea bye
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18:23 rangi ahh its not a real error, just complaining it cant find the plugin, ill fix the test
18:23 cait ah cool :)
18:23 wizzyrea and good morning
18:24 rangi morning
18:24 rangi my $tt = Template->new({ABSOLUTE => 1,                                                                                INCLUDE_PATH => $includes });
18:24 rangi doesn't have the path for where plugins live
18:24 cait and morning :)
18:25 jcamins rangi: morning. I guess the world gets through Friday the thirteenth?
18:25 rangi needs PLUGIN_BASE => 'Koha::Template::Plugin',
18:25 rangi yep it does :)
18:25 cait oh
18:25 cait didn't even notice
18:26 jcamins cait: yep, and the full moon was this week, too.
18:27 jcamins (I just had to look that up... I didn't know that off the top of my head)
18:27 jcamins @wunder 11375
18:27 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 0.6�C (1:03 PM EST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa. Wind Advisory in effect until midnight EST tonight...
18:28 cait that explains...
18:28 cait hm... not much really
18:28 jcamins cait: I thought it might.
18:29 jcamins ... oh.
18:29 jcamins ;)
18:31 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:31 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 14, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Rising).
18:31 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:31 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.4�C (7:29 PM CET on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Steady).
18:35 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 929] See details of a budget <[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=929>
18:36 rangi look
18:36 rangi and easy peasy sign off
18:36 rangi just run the test, then apply the patch and run it again
18:36 cait :)
18:36 cait I will do it
18:36 cait in a minute
18:40 rangi yay!
18:40 jcamins rangi: how do I write a test for something in the Koha:: namespace.
18:40 jcamins I mean, where does the file go.
18:41 jcamins The one for Koha::Cache is just t/Cache.
18:42 rangi what i did for 929
18:42 jcamins I need to write tests for Koha::Search and Koha::Search::Engine.
18:43 rangi Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t
18:43 rangi so
18:43 jcamins Okay, thanks.
18:43 rangi Koha_Search.t
18:43 rangi in that case
18:43 jcamins Koha_Search.t and Koha_Search_Engine.t.
18:43 rangi i just made it up, but it seems to work
18:43 rangi :)
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18:46 * jcamins learns about the grep function.
18:46 rangi git grep? or perl grep?
18:46 rangi both cool
18:47 jcamins Perl grep.
18:47 jcamins Whoah!
18:47 * jcamins just learned about git grep.
18:47 cait woah?
18:48 jcamins Like "Wow!" only with a different vowel.
18:48 cait hehe
18:48 cait I know that
18:49 cait but wanted to know what's so awesome about git grep :)
18:49 jcamins Did you know about git grep?
18:49 cait nope
18:56 jcamins Hrm. Why didn't this work?
18:56 jcamins ok(grep {$_ eq 'Search'} @indexes, "Search engine supports Subject index");
18:59 rangi it will hand back an array
18:59 rangi grep that is
19:00 rangi @foo = grep(!/^#/, @bar);
19:00 huginn rangi: I've exhausted my database of quotes
19:00 rangi heh
19:00 rangi and @foo != "a string"
19:00 jcamins Hm. Okay, how do I do it properly?
19:01 jcamins This doesn't work either: ok(exists {map { $_ => 1 } @indexes}->{'Subject'}, "Search engine supports Subject index");
19:01 rangi @later tell paul_p bug 929 template tests patch signed off
19:01 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:02 jcamins And the array does include 'Subject'
19:03 rangi but
19:03 rangi ok(grep {$_ eq 'Search'} @indexes, "Search engine supports Subject index");
19:03 rangi looking for search?
19:03 jcamins Subject.
19:03 jcamins I changed it to Subject.
19:03 jcamins Sorry 'bout that.
19:03 rangi and its the only element ?
19:04 jcamins No, there are lots of elements.
19:04 jcamins That's one of them.
19:04 rangi returned by the grep i mean
19:04 jcamins Ah.
19:04 jcamins No, the grep doesn't work.
19:04 rangi grep always returns an array
19:04 rangi try this
19:05 rangi my @resutlt = grep(/Subject/, @indexes);
19:05 rangi but without typoes
19:05 jcamins Right.
19:06 rangi and look in @result
19:06 jcamins Hmmm... that doesn't seem to be working either.
19:07 jcamins Odd. I see the 'Subject' entry in the @indexes array.
19:08 jcamins Well, clearly this is the problem.
19:15 jcamins No luck. Oh well.
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19:17 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]588/HTML_Report/?  <-- we got up to 51% subroutine coverage now
19:19 cait yay :)
19:19 cait the modern perl has a chapter about testing :)
19:20 * jcamins_away takes a nap.
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20:16 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
20:17 jcamins cait: so are you an expert on testing now?
20:17 cait no
20:17 cait not reachedthat chapter
20:17 cait only started the book this morning :)
20:17 cait but already read the table of contents heh
20:17 jcamins Ah. What are you an expert on now?
20:17 jcamins :)
20:21 cait hm
20:21 cait I read about perldoc this morning
20:21 jcamins Yay!
20:22 jcamins You're our new perldoc expert! :D
20:22 cait hmpf
20:22 cait what are you trying to do here?
20:23 jcamins cait: I just woke up from a nap, so I'm silly.
20:23 * cait takes a note about that fact
20:23 cait do you have any cookies to go along with your silliness?
20:24 jcamins Nope. :(
20:25 cait !
20:25 cait I had oreos...
20:25 cait well... had.
20:44 cul_isaway is now known as Culiforge
20:46 Culiforge I keep gettin an error when trying to install CPAN modules...
20:46 Culiforge Warning: Cannot install Memoize::Memcached::PDF::API2::Simple, don't know what it is.
20:46 Culiforge Try the command
20:46 Culiforge i /Memoize::Memcached::PDF::API2::Simple/
20:46 rangi thats because those are 2 different things
20:47 Culiforge it almost seems like a typo but then I can't say as I know what i'm talking about... I just copied it from the git tutorial
20:47 rangi did you miss a space or something? or add extra ::
20:47 rangi hmm
20:47 Culiforge[…]5ed0eac3c;hb=HEAD
20:47 jcamins i Memoize::MEmcached
20:47 Culiforge line 99
20:47 jcamins i PDF::API2::Simple
20:48 rangi $ sudo cpan HTTP::OAI Locale::Currency::Format Memoize::Memcached \ PDF::API2::Simple Storable Text::CSV::Encoded
20:48 rangi that ?
20:48 wahanui that is a good goal
20:48 Culiforge yeh
20:48 Culiforge yeah
20:48 jcamins Culiforge: you added an extra two ::s
20:48 rangi yup
20:48 jcamins Rather, :: or two :s
20:48 jcamins That wasn't a smiley.
20:48 * jcamins gives up.
20:48 wizzyrea you added two sets of colons
20:48 * wizzyrea is not being gross
20:49 Culiforge ok, the line numbers split the command and I guess I was thinking I was accomodating for it
20:49 rangi yes
20:50 jcamins Culiforge: no, the \ means that the next line is a continuation.
20:50 rangi the \ means the command can span 2 lines
20:50 * wizzyrea gets a coke for the first one to jinx
20:51 Culiforge ok, I was unaware... two months using linux.. trying to pick things up tho :)
20:51 Culiforge Running make test
20:51 Culiforge Can't test without successful make
20:51 Culiforge Running make install
20:51 Culiforge Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
20:52 jcamins Culiforge: you have to run make first.
20:52 jcamins (and I suspect you may have missed a few other steps as well)
20:53 rangi or is that cpan saying that?
20:53 Culiforge cpan
20:53 jcamins Oh.
20:53 jcamins I see.
20:53 Culiforge I'm following the git tutorial line by line
20:53 schuster I hate to say this but in the install instructions maybe that \ on broken lines needs be commented at the top?  I know I had problems with it too and always was VERY literal when typing/copying at the command line
20:54 schuster Culiforge - are you trying to get a development install or just be able to run Koha?
20:54 Culiforge I go t as far as Makefie.PL this morning and was told that I had cpan dependency issues
20:55 Culiforge so I scrolled back and discovered problems installing that string of cpan mods
20:55 Culiforge just trying to get koha running
20:56 rangi here
20:56 rangi try this
20:56 rangi wget[…]rl_0.03-2_all.deb
20:56 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7430] ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430>
20:57 rangi wget[…]_1.1.4u-1_all.deb
20:57 schuster oh they are doing Ubuntu never mind out of my knowledge base.
20:57 rangi that will get you the packages for those 2 modules
20:58 rangi sudo dpkg -i libmemoize-memcached-perl_0.03-2_all.deb
20:58 rangi sudo dpkg -i libpdf-api2-simple-perl_1.1.4u-1_all.deb
20:58 Culiforge hmm, shouldn't that have opened with the deb package installer?
20:58 Culiforge ahh
20:58 rangi not if you wget it
20:58 rangi but you could open it with the installer too if you wanted
20:59 * rangi never installs from cpan if i can find a package to install from instead
20:59 rangi and since liw and eythian packaged those for debian, they are also in ubuntu
21:01 Culiforge so I run that.... then what? back to cpan to make sure it all installed>
21:01 Culiforge ?
21:02 rangi not cpan no
21:02 rangi you can then run
21:02 rangi ./ -m
21:02 rangi (which is what the Makefile.PL does (or close to it)
21:03 rangi and it will tell you if you have any missing dependencies still
21:03 rangi if not
21:03 rangi perl Makefile.PL
21:03 rangi if you werent already halfway through installing from git, i would now tell you to just use the koha-common debian package which does all this for you and works on lucid
21:04 Culiforge
21:04 Culiforge I was trying to find that.... magnus suggested this was best
21:05 rangi you did the dpkg -i right?
21:05 Culiforge yeah
21:06 rangi for both?
21:06 rangi because it looks like it only did the PDF::API one
21:06 rangi anyway, your real problem is Business::ISBN
21:06 Culiforge both...
21:06 rangi thats the only one thats required the rest are optional
21:07 Culiforge I did the sudo dpkg -i for =>>>[…]_1.1.4u-1_all.deb
21:07 Culiforge I guess I don't understand what you mean both
21:07 rangi 09:57 <@rangi> sudo dpkg -i libmemoize-memcached-perl_0.03-2_all.deb
21:07 rangi 09:57 <@rangi> sudo dpkg -i libpdf-api2-simple-perl_1.1.4u-1_all.deb
21:08 Culiforge yes I entered that line
21:08 rangi both lines?
21:09 Culiforge I'm confuddled
21:09 rangi there are 2 lines there
21:09 rangi you need to do, 2 wget
21:09 rangi then 2 dpkg -i
21:10 rangi after you have done those ones
21:10 rangi then you can do
21:10 Culiforge you posted the link to the deb packages.. and I downloaded it and ran sudo dpkg -i on it
21:10 rangi i posted 2 links to 2 different packages
21:10 rangi did you download them both
21:11 rangi then dpkg -i them both?
21:11 rangi if so then you can now do
21:11 rangi wget[…]rl_2.03-1_all.deb
21:11 rangi sudo dpkg -i libbusiness-isbn-perl_2.03-1_all.deb
21:13 Culiforge ok, getting somwhere... I guess I didn't see the 2nd post
21:13 Culiforge
21:14 Culiforge both lines run with dpkg
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21:18 rangi ah ha
21:18 rangi i can fix that one
21:18 rangi wget[…]rl_1.17-1_all.deb
21:18 rangi sudo dpkg -i libbusiness-isbn-data-perl_1.17-1_all.deb
21:20 Culiforge ok, that was tidy
21:22 Culiforge ./ -m shows ==> cgi::session::driver::memcached/​gravatar::url/memoize::memcached missing
21:22 Culiforge and btw that's :    D
21:24 Culiforge you said those were optional correct?
21:24 rangi yup
21:25 Culiforge so Makefile.PL again?
21:26 rangi yup
21:32 Culiforge
21:33 rangi yep just warnings and you can safely ignore those
21:33 Culiforge I'm always a bit itchy about ignoring warnings... :S
21:34 Culiforge but ok
21:36 wizzyrea if you were going to trust anybody, it'd be rangi.
21:36 * cait agrees :)
21:39 rangi on that note
21:39 rangi you also need to send me a money order for $1,000,000
21:39 wizzyrea i have no doubt that you'd do something awesome with it.
21:40 Culiforge ok, I'll send you one.. (wouldn't cash it if I were you though)
21:43 Culiforge places don't like to cash MO's written on gum wrappers
21:43 rangi heh
21:43 Culiforge but I'm still willin' to send it to you
21:45 Culiforge thanks for all the help and handholding btw I appreciate it
21:45 rhcl RE:[…]reless%20Scanner/
21:46 rhcl This device seems to simply be running Win CE, with two custom apps, Follett Mini-Destiny and Follett Remote software. Anybody have any idea how those programs work?
21:48 rangi Culiforge: no worries, imho its what makes koha great is the people who use it and develop it
21:48 rangi rhcl: hmmm nope
21:49 rhcl wonder if somebody like druthb might have a guess
21:49 Culiforge rangi: and for that I'm grateful.. otherwise I'd just be a nervous twitching mess while i hand write catalog cards
21:49 rangi where abouts in the world are you Culiforge ?
21:50 rhcl it's much easier to print out catalog cards with a computer and printer, FWIW
21:50 Culiforge US, Michigan
21:52 Culiforge what about you?
21:53 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:53 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.6�C (10:49 PM CET on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Steady).
21:55 rangi @wunder nzwn
21:55 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on January 14, 2012). Conditions: . Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling).
22:01 Culiforge so setting up zebra as a daemon... um.. what's my {scritpt_dir} since i pretty much have the default install params
22:01 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
22:01 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 2.6�C (4:00 PM CST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady).
22:01 wizzyrea golly it's chilly
22:01 Culiforge doh, nvm just found it
22:02 jcamins You know what this world needs?
22:02 wizzyrea more cookies?
22:03 jcamins That's a good idea too.
22:03 jcamins I was thinking more people like River Tam.
22:03 wizzyrea baling wire and duct tape?
22:05 rangi heh
22:06 Culiforge do I need to use the scroll brackets in this statement==> sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_DIR}/  /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
22:07 rangi you should substitute the actual path in there
22:07 Culiforge without brackets correct?
22:07 rangi correct and without the $
22:08 Culiforge ahh, that's my problem... (amongst others)
22:08 rangi so something like /home/your_user/koha-dev/bin/
22:08 rangi (or similar)
22:09 Culiforge so default path in statement should look==> sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/  /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
22:09 rangi that looks about right to me
22:10 Culiforge ok, I run sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults and get..
22:10 Culiforge update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist
22:12 Culiforge ok, anyway. I have to go.. supper time.. thanks again for the assistance.
22:12 Culiforge is now known as cul_away
22:14 rangi hmm that libeo request looks fine to me
22:14 wizzyrea *nod* was going to check their website
22:15 wizzyrea and yea, looks ok to me
22:17 rangi yup
22:17 rangi links back nice and prominent
22:18 cait left #koha
22:25 schuster @wunder 75074
22:25 huginn schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 13.2�C (4:19 PM CST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Steady).
22:25 schuster Warmer than wizzyrea at least...  Have a great weekend everyone!!
22:26 rangi cya schuster
22:27 wizzyrea :)
22:27 jcamins A lot warmer than here, I think.
22:27 jcamins @wunder 11375
22:27 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is -1.1�C (5:03 PM EST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa. Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening...
22:27 jcamins Yup.
22:33 schuster brrr... ok by!  Three day weekend here I come!
22:33 magnus_afk @wunder boo
22:33 huginn magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (11:20 PM CET on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
22:33 jcamins It's colder in NYC?
22:33 jcamins Weird.
22:34 magnus_afk moahaha!
22:36 schuster left #koha
22:37 magnus_afk g'night #koha
22:37 wizzyrea gnite magnus_afk
22:37 magnus_afk is now known as magnus_zzz
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22:53 jcamins is now known as jcamins_away
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23:48 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7143] Bug for tracking changes to the about page <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143>

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