Time Nick Message 00:54 rangi hmm sounds like the person doing a blender tutorial is wowing the academy 01:08 ibeardslee I got myself a bit lost, and have stopped so he can focus on the students :( 01:10 rangi heh 01:52 Culiforge could someone verify one of the steps on http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid;hb=HEAD for me? lines 99 and 100... is that supposed to be all one line? 01:52 Culiforge trying to pick up where I left off this morning with my install 03:14 rangi the \ means it can span 2 lines, but you can put it all on one line if you want 03:35 AmitG heya bag 03:54 Oak kia ora #koha 04:39 cait good mornign #koha 04:40 rangi hi cait 04:40 cait evening rangi 05:07 AmitG heya cait, rangi 05:07 rangi hi AmitG 05:08 cait hi AmitG 05:09 mtj heya peeps 05:09 rangi hi mtj 05:10 * mtj waves to the herd 05:10 cait hi mtj :) 07:22 magnuse kia ora #koha 07:22 rangi hi magnuse 07:22 cait goo dmorning magnuse - you are late :) 07:22 cait ;) 07:23 magnuse not that late, for me, i think? 07:23 magnuse and hiya rangi 07:24 rangi http://blogs.perl.org/users/alexandr_gomoliako/2011/12/introducing-nginx-perl.html 07:25 cait magnuse: only joking :) 07:25 alex_a morning koha :) 07:26 magnuse cait: yay 07:26 magnuse vonjour alex_a 07:26 magnuse or bonjour, your choice 07:26 cait hi alex_a :) 07:26 alex_a :D 07:27 alex_a hello cait magnuse 07:27 alex_a and rangi 07:29 rangi hi alex_a 07:36 reiveune hello 07:37 rangi hi reiveune 07:37 reiveune :) 07:51 rangi hi edveal and julian_m 07:51 julian_m hi rangi, hi all 07:54 sophie_m hello #koha 07:55 rangi hi sophie_m 07:56 matts hi #koha ! 07:56 rangi hi matts 07:56 kf back 07:56 rangi wb kf 07:56 kf :) 08:09 asaurat hi 08:12 kf guten morgen asaurat :) 08:25 gaetan_B hello 08:27 rangi hi asaurat, paul_p and gaetan_B 08:27 paul_p hello rangi 08:27 kf hi gaetan_B and paul_p 09:46 magnuse tee hee: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/54508/colorful-term-for-someone-with-a-long-overdue-library-book 09:51 kf @later tell wizzyrea found out what alert does - emails for new serial issues :) 09:51 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 10:46 Culiforge hello all 11:03 Culiforge so a little while back, I attempted to install Koha and was unsuccessful. Primarily because I set up the mysql users and passwords incorrectly (at least I think that's what the problem was). Is there a specific user and/or pwd I need to have for proper database access? 11:04 magnuse Culiforge: nothing specific - but you need what is in your koha-conf.xml to match the database you set up for koha to use 11:09 Culiforge magnuse: yeah, that was the issue last time... whatever install tut I used last time had defaults setup and I was confused by the prompts as far as what to put where. 11:09 magnuse been there, done that ;-) 11:10 Culiforge so with the git.koha-community.org install are there defaults that I should use to make it easier? this will be a test install, pretty much just for me until I can make it live.... 11:11 Culiforge i'm currently at line 123 on the lucid install page... 11:11 magnuse when you run Makefile.PL it will suggest defaults, but it's much safer to use something you make up yourself, especially id this will eventually be a public installation 11:12 magnuse s/id/if/ 11:12 Culiforge or am I over thinking it? 11:13 Culiforge s/id/if/? I don't understand 11:13 magnuse sorry, i wrote id when i meant if 11:14 Culiforge ok 11:14 magnuse s/id/if/ is how you'd replace the first thing with the second thing in perl :-) 11:15 Culiforge ahh, I see. so I'm at : 2.2 Create the Koha database 11:15 Culiforge 128 11:15 Culiforge 129 Create the database and user with associated privileges: 11:15 Culiforge 130 11:15 Culiforge 131 $ mysqladmin -uroot -p<password> create <kohadatabasename> 11:15 Culiforge 132 $ mysql -uroot -p<password> 11:16 Culiforge I can make this whatever I want but I'll have to change it in the xml file later right, so they match? 11:16 magnuse you can make <kohadatabasename> whatever you want 11:16 magnuse you don't have to edit the xml by hand, you have to remember it for when you run Makefile.PL 11:16 Culiforge or rather during the makefile step, ensure that they match? 11:17 magnuse that script will ask for the db info 11:18 magnuse ...and create the xml file for you 11:18 Culiforge should I [space] between -p and <password>? I know spaces are important 11:19 paul_p passed QA (patches to push) queue is empty ! (just 1 waiting for a unit test) ! 11:19 magnuse paul_p++ 11:19 Culiforge or is that the password for the -uroot command? 11:19 magnuse Culiforge: you can also type mysql -u root -p 11:20 magnuse -u is an option that you use to give the mysql username you want to log in as 11:20 Culiforge when dselect configured mysql I left it open 11:20 magnuse and it is a bit safer to just type -p - then you will be prompted for the password of the root user and it will not be in your history file etc 11:21 magnuse ah, i think "mysql -u root -p" should work then 11:21 magnuse but not having a password for the root user in mysql is a bad idea if this install is ever going to be used for anything outside your local machine :-) 11:23 Culiforge I understand.. I've already gone down that road so I'll burn that bridge when I get to it 11:23 magnuse hehe 11:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7396: Debarred message not showing over SIP2 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=000047769f12c55d59e444041ddcc0aaf5613fe4> / Bug 7381 - wrong isbn showing on the staff search results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8deb21a2c02e3d0678c44e37a8501de56228b256> / Bug 7363: allows downloading of lists in CSV format <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; 11:23 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7169] Change booksellers search results display <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7169> 11:25 Culiforge mysql> grant all on <kohadatabasename>.* to '<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>'; so <kohadatabasename> is what I just named it, <kohadabaseuser> is the acct I use locally for admin and whatnot? 11:26 magnuse <kohadatabasename> must match what you used in the previous command 11:26 magnuse <kohadatabaseuser> can be anything 11:26 magnuse it will be in the xml file 11:27 magnuse and you will use it the first time you log into the web ui + whenever you need to uograde the database later on 11:27 magnuse but you should not use it for regularly logging into koha - the first thing you should do after installation is to create a regular user that you use for everything else 11:27 Culiforge ok, single quotes.. need to be there right? around 'user'@'localhost'? 11:27 magnuse yup 11:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #587 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 11:37 Culiforge so the tutorial so far has had everything in kohaclone.. now makefile wants to create /usr/share/koha... kohaclone is just the "install from" directory right? and koha is where the actual program will be? 11:38 magnuse yup 11:38 magnuse if you do a standard install, files will be put in appropriate places "all over" the filesystem 11:38 Culiforge sorry for remedial questions... I just want to make sure I know what's going on so when I mess it up I can explain what I did :) 11:39 magnuse Culiforge: no problem - and a good plan! ;-) 11:42 Culiforge see, I messed up already... under specify the name of database I hit enter for default [koha]. so now after install is done, I need to edit something to set it properly right? 11:43 magnuse yup, you need to edit koha-conf.xml 11:43 magnuse /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml if i remember correctly 11:43 Culiforge after all the makefile stuff is done right? 11:43 magnuse yup 11:44 magnuse or you could Ctrl+c to stop the makefile and run it again 11:44 Culiforge that's probably easier... since this is all new to me 11:45 magnuse yeah. might be 11:46 Culiforge ok, user account.. default is [koha] leave it or should it be the <kohadatabaseuser> I created earlier? 11:50 magnuse it should 11:51 Culiforge should... be acct I made earlier? 11:51 magnuse yes 11:51 magnuse user account = <kohadatabaseuser> 11:52 Culiforge but let it create group koha right? 11:52 magnuse ah, maybe i'm leading you astray here 11:53 Culiforge uh-oh 11:53 Culiforge don't do that, i'm fragile 11:54 magnuse sorry! 11:54 Culiforge hehe 11:54 magnuse user account = the linux user that will own the koha files 11:54 magnuse i think the recommendation is to use a user named koha for that 11:54 magnuse it will ask you for "the user that owns the database" later on 11:55 Culiforge right, that's where I'm at.. a user, but not root.. file owner and database owner can be the same as long as they're not root? 11:55 Culiforge linux root, not mysql root 11:56 magnuse they will be two separate users, but you can give them the same name 11:56 magnuse linux users and mysql users are separate entities, even if they have the same name 11:57 Culiforge ok, good, we're still on track.. so group [koha]? leave as default? 11:57 magnuse yup 11:58 Culiforge database server [localhost] default or should I use my full machine address? 11:58 magnuse localhost should do 11:58 magnuse if you just installed mysql locally 11:59 magnuse and i bet you did :-) 11:59 Culiforge smart money,, I did 12:00 magnuse yay! 12:01 Culiforge pazpar2? default is no 12:01 Culiforge leave it? 12:01 magnuse yeah 12:10 Culiforge http://pastebin.com/qXsZZ0vi 12:11 Culiforge is that an issue? 12:12 magnuse ah yes, you will have to install those by hand 12:12 magnuse you are on ubuntu, right? 12:12 Culiforge yes 12:12 Culiforge good memory 12:13 magnuse INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid says : 12:13 magnuse 97 Run the following command: 12:13 magnuse 98 12:13 magnuse 99 $ sudo cpan HTTP::OAI Locale::Currency::Format Memoize::Memcached \ 12:13 magnuse 100 PDF::API2::Simple Storable Text::CSV::Encoded 12:13 magnuse did you do that? 12:14 magnuse you need to install the ones that missing from cpan 12:14 magnuse tp be precise, you only need CGI::Session::Driver::memcached and Memoize::Memcached if you are going to use memcached (i wouldn't worry about that yet...) 12:15 magnuse you need PDF::API2::Simple if you are going to create PDFs for labels and patron cards 12:15 magnuse i think template will mostly work with version 2.20, but you will not get zebra stripes on search results, so getting 2.22 is better 12:16 Culiforge ok, scrolling back to sudo cpan command to see what errors were 12:16 magnuse you need Gravatar::URL if you want to turn gravatars in the opac 12:16 magnuse so Business::ISBN is the most important one 12:16 magnuse but i would get the others too, if i were you 12:17 magnuse good training :-) 12:18 magnuse sorry, time for me to go afk for a couple hours, bbl! 12:18 Culiforge ok, thx for help 12:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #587: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/587/ 12:23 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5358: Show cancelled orders in basket page 12:23 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: BUG 6098 zebra conf NSB NSE indexed as space 12:23 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6098 Followup -- doesn't replace NSB/NSE by space 12:23 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Add MARC21 field 545 to to framework fix bug 5226 12:23 jenkins_koha * katrin.fischer: Bug 5226: Follow up to new/awaiting_qa/bug_5226 12:23 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 5226: Add 545 to es-ES and nb-NO 12:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5358 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , keep track of cancelled orders 12:23 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7367: Add space before display of languages. 12:23 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7368: Correct spelling of merge authorities job in pref file. 12:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6098 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fridolyn.somers, ASSIGNED , zebra conf NSB NSE indexed as space 12:23 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7373 - Add 5 new icons to Bridge Set 12:23 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7375 - Update minimum version of Perl to 5.10 12:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5226 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, koha, ASSIGNED , MARC21 field 545 missing 12:23 jenkins_koha * duncan: Bug 7348 - Fixed error for serial toolbar buttons in IE7 12:23 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug6716 - document the aqbooksellers table 12:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7367 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General OPAC typo omnibus 12:23 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 6717 Documenting need_merge_authorities table 12:23 jenkins_koha * marc: Bug 7356 - Fix various typos and mis-spellings 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7373 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , new bridge icons 12:24 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 7360 Import Default framework into other deletes default Framework 12:24 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7363: allows downloading of lists in CSV format 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7375 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Update minimum version of Perl to 5.10 12:24 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7381 - wrong isbn showing on the staff search results 12:24 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7396: Debarred message not showing over SIP2 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7348 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, duncan, ASSIGNED , Fix error in IE where the serials toolbar buttons do not show. 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7356 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, marc, RESOLVED FIXED, Fix various typos and mis-spellings 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7360 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Importing a SQL file for frameworks based on Default Framework deletes the default framework 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7363 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Downloading a list in CSV format doesn't work 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7381 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , wrong isbn showing on the staff search results 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7396 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Debarred message not displayed over SIP2 13:22 Oak kia ora #koha 13:24 kf hi Oak :) 13:24 jcamins_away Oak. oleonard. kf. Everyone else. 13:24 jcamins kf: I'm supposed to remind you something. 13:33 Oak hello kf :) 13:34 Oak jcamins. 13:34 wahanui jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra 13:41 schuster Ola! everyone! it's happy Friday for me! 13:41 schuster Going into a 3 day weekend with Martin Luther King day on Monday... 13:42 schuster Anyone else going to be at ALA Midwinter next weekend? Jan 20-21? 13:43 oleonard Some ByWater folks I'll wager. 13:43 kf paul_p: I noticed lots of bugs needs testing for unimarc - is there a test database somehwere? 13:44 kf paul_p: some unimarc test data would be great, records at least 13:44 kf hi oleonard :) 13:44 paul_p kf, I have a large (20k record) unimarc database I use for my tests. 13:45 schuster Yep ByWater++ 13:49 kf paul_p: could you provide that somewhere for download? 13:50 paul_p kf, if will be in my sandbox system. That's a good idea though = I think i've anonymized it, but a 2nd look would be great. 13:50 paul_p kf, I propose to give it to you privately now, and, if you confirm there is no more emails/phone/..., then i'll be able to use it 13:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7442] Crash when selecting an authority with 200$x or 200$y <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7442> 13:50 paul_p kf, sounds like a plan ? 13:51 kf if that's ok for you 13:51 kf I can check 14:04 schuster I thought chris_n was gathering data of this nature for "testing" things just like this? 14:04 oleonard This is unimarc schuster 14:05 schuster Yeah, but I thought he was trying to gather data to have for testing unimarc etc... never mind I'll leave it alone. 14:05 schuster Just wondering out loud on a Friday. 14:05 oleonard Maybe so schuster 14:06 jcamins schuster: I think paul_p's dataset is the UNIMARC test data that chris_n was hoping to use. 14:07 * oleonard is out of the loop 14:16 kf can someone confirm that notifys is no longer used? (database table) 14:18 tcohen is there a reason not to split things like additem.pl into item_edit.pl item_add.pl etc? 14:19 kf hm perhaps because they use the same template? not sure that is a reason though 14:20 tcohen i have some noise in my brain with all this giant front scripts that happen to have a big if, elsif 14:22 jcamins tcohen: no reason I can think of, but better to ask someone else. 14:23 oleonard Is there any place in Koha where the edit script is separate from the add script? 14:23 jcamins oleonard: probably not, but it might be a good idea if it were. tcohen has a point about massive if-elsif blocks. 14:23 kf hm not that I am aware of 14:23 wahanui i already had it that way, kf. 14:23 jcamins hm? 14:23 kf hm 14:23 kf hehe 14:23 jcamins hm not that I? 14:23 jcamins hm not that kf? 14:23 wahanui not that kf is, like, aware of 14:23 kf ok? 14:24 jcamins Heh. 14:24 jcamins wahanui: forget hm not that kf 14:24 wahanui jcamins, I didn't have anything matching hm not that kf 14:24 jcamins wahanui: forget not that kf 14:24 wahanui jcamins: I forgot not that kf 14:24 jcamins hm not that kf? 14:24 jcamins Fixed. 14:25 kf thank you :) 14:27 paul_p kf, I try to send a sqldump to a place you could upload it, but I have some problems... 14:28 kf hm 14:28 paul_p seems my webdav link does not work... 14:28 kf printers still used? 14:28 paul_p i'll let you know when it's OK, probably by mail 14:28 kf ok 14:41 kf ok 14:41 kf any opinion on the table printers? 14:42 oleonard I know the section of the template that used to display a printer chooser has been commented out for quite a while now 14:42 kf oleonard: yep, I think it could be related to the feature 14:42 kf but was not sure if it's perhaps used for label printing 14:43 kf it has printername, printqueue and printtype 14:44 oleonard /cgi-bin/koha/admin/printers.pl 14:46 oleonard kf: I'd say all that stuff can be removed (the table, the admin script, the references in selectbranchprinter.pl) 14:46 kf ok 14:46 kf I will add notifys and printers to the db schema bugs page 14:46 kf as candidates for removal 14:46 * oleonard waves from out on the end of this limb 14:46 kf but I found out what alert is used for :) 14:46 kf huh? 14:47 oleonard From the phrase "to go out on a limb," take a risk. 14:48 kf hmm 14:48 kf sorry, don't get it 14:53 schuster kf oleonard - seems like printers also has something to do with when you "set" your library doesn't it? Just something rolling around in the back of my brain about that. 14:53 oleonard Yeah, the printer selection used to be on the same page as the branch selection 14:53 oleonard Hence selectbranchprinter.pl 14:53 kf yep 14:53 kf but it's been gone for a long time now 14:54 kf I think perhaps 3.0/3.2? 14:54 oleonard And it only worked with UNIX printers? 14:54 schuster Ah well as long wiping things out doesn't break that funcationality I don't have a problem with it! It was before my time so pre 3.0! 14:54 oleonard Something like that. rangi would remember. 14:55 magnuse getting rid of obsolete code FTW! 14:55 schuster AH the historical community remembrance... one of the MANY reasons we like to keep rangi around! 14:56 schuster jcamins must have started something with that noZebra discussion yesterday! 14:56 jcamins Hooray! 14:56 kf hehe 14:56 kf make it work or get rid of it 14:56 kf anyone fond of ethnotes and ethnicity? 14:57 asaurat :D 14:57 kf it's in borrowers and we also have a table called ethnicity... 14:57 * magnuse always wonderes why they are there 14:57 kf I didn't care 14:57 asaurat surprised me first time I saw this =) 14:57 magnuse wow, a whole table? 14:57 kf but for the privacy documents I have to state we don't use them... 14:58 oleonard Everyone is surprised by the ethnicity table, but it was a requirement in NZ 14:58 oleonard I don't know if that has changed or not 14:58 magnuse would be interesting to know 15:00 kf ok 15:00 kf added my suspects to the wiki :) 15:00 Guest23874 oh hlt uses printers 15:01 oleonard Oh yeah, still? 15:01 wizzyrea afaik 15:01 wizzyrea rangi would know for sure, but the last time I did anything with set library I was reminded of this fact 15:01 wizzyrea which wasn't all that long ago 15:02 wizzyrea 6mo maybe? 15:03 wizzyrea LibreOffice++ for opening xlsx 15:03 kf hm 15:03 kf perhaps he can make it work then? 15:03 kf because at the moment I see no way to use it 15:11 schuster jcamins - what are your thoughts on RDA and Koha? 15:12 schuster Or if you have posted if you want to point me there... 15:13 jcamins schuster: We've got a bit of work ahead of us. 15:14 schuster I think in the whole community not just Koha... I don't want Koha though to be thought of "oh that doesn't handle RDA" so ignore it. 15:14 jcamins Right. 15:15 schuster I'm still a little baffled on how it would "look" in Koha... Conceptually. 15:15 kf does someone know what reserveconstraints does? 15:15 * jcamins sneezes a lot. 15:15 kf :( 15:15 jcamins I hate colds. 15:15 * kf hands you paper tissues 15:16 schuster Zinc tablets... 15:16 jcamins schuster: well, record linking is going to be a much bigger issue. 15:17 jcamins That's really what RDA is all about. 15:22 schuster jcamins yes and the work you are doing is a great step forward in that... 15:23 schuster jcamins - in your work with marc export - did you set it to NOT export the $9 in the authority fields? 15:24 jcamins schuster: yeah, it's a start. We also need relationships between bibs to be more meaningful. 15:24 jcamins schuster: that is an option now. kf did a follow-up patch. 15:24 jcamins (that puts it in the UI) 15:25 gmcharlt @quote get 123 15:25 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 15:26 jcamins schuster: bug 7392 adds the system preference. 15:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7392 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add system preference to configure export options for OPAC detail page 15:26 jcamins schuster: the other thing that I think is critical is relator terms. 15:26 jcamins We don't do a thing with them now, and they're in many ways the raison d'etre for RDA. 15:27 * jcamins reflects on the importance of RDA as distilled in that statement. 15:27 jcamins Seems accurate, no? 15:32 schuster jcamins yes relator terms are very important, but how those links would be created... I see lots of work reflecting on existing data in order to make it work. Very little machine automation. 15:33 schuster Watching the RDA-Toolkit presentation webinar from November. 15:35 jcamins schuster: It's a problem, but we could at least make some use of relator terms that we do have. 15:42 jcamins gmcharlt: around? 15:42 gmcharlt jcamins: yes 15:43 jcamins gmcharlt: is there a way to delete the _last_ subfield from a MARC::Field object? 15:44 rhcl Raison d'�tre, a Swedish dark-ambient-industrial-drone music project de wikipedia 15:49 kf wizzyrea: around? 15:49 wizzyrea i am 15:49 wizzyrea sup 15:50 kf I think he did it 15:50 wizzyrea for the slips 15:50 kf Srdjan: I have changed slip printing so branch is taken from the session. 15:50 wizzyrea not for the notices 15:50 kf ah 15:50 kf but notices are sent out later - I think the staff member is not interesting there probably? 15:50 wizzyrea slips = probably 80% of that problem though 15:50 kf moe where the checkout has happened? 15:50 wizzyrea yea, it's for a different bug though 15:51 kf ok 15:51 kf only wondering :) 15:51 wizzyrea but thank you for helping me convince him :) 15:51 kf np - I totally agree it should be that way 15:52 wizzyrea if you can imagine - a library system where all staff members have a home library of "Central office" but they all have set libraries of the branch they are att 15:52 wizzyrea all of the email notices for checkout would come from "Central office" 15:52 wizzyrea = uh bad. 15:52 kf I can see people working at different branches here 15:52 kf for public libraries, half time there, half time there 15:52 wizzyrea but - that is not how *most* places do it 15:52 kf no 15:52 kf edge case? 15:52 kf perhaps 15:52 wizzyrea the situation you just enumerated is the other situation 15:52 wizzyrea that this would come into play 15:53 wizzyrea making the set library follow the home library would be one way to handle it 15:53 wizzyrea for "staff" class patrons 15:53 wizzyrea s/accounts/patrons/ 15:53 gmcharlt jcamins: awkwardly, but yes 15:54 wizzyrea at the very least document that there is a difference 15:54 gmcharlt $field->delete_subfield(code => ['a', 'b', ..., 'z', '0', '1', ... '9']) 15:54 wizzyrea it had never occurred to me that *anything* would pull from the home library of the logged in user, instead of the set library 15:55 jcamins gmcharlt: but how do we make sure that's the very last subfield? 15:55 wizzyrea makes perfect sense to do that on the staff side 15:55 wizzyrea er 15:55 wizzyrea OPAC 15:55 wizzyrea but of course there is no "set library" on the opac. 15:55 * wizzyrea stops talking now 15:55 gmcharlt jcamins: $listref = $marc->subfields(); @$listref == 0 15:56 jcamins gmcharlt: sorry, badly worded question. 15:56 gmcharlt jcamins: right, sorry, the light is dawning 15:56 jcamins gmcharlt: if I have the following field: =650 ##$aSubject$y19th century$vJuvenile fiction 15:57 jcamins I want to delete the subfield $v. 16:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7434] Display of issue number for serials in overdues <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7434> 16:04 gmcharlt $sfs = $field->subfields(); pop @$sfs; $field->replace_with(MARC::Field->new($field->tag, $field->indicator(1), $field->indicator(2), map { $_[0] => $_[1] } @$sfs)); 16:04 gmcharlt ... or something like that 16:04 jcamins Ah. Thanks. 16:04 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ : lordie you're brilliant. 16:04 jcamins I would not have worked that out. 16:04 gmcharlt cleaner would be a patch to MARC::Field->delete_subfields() to let it be called with only the pos parameter 16:06 kf wizzyrea: making them follow seems difficult to me - requires database updates each time you change the library, not logging out... when will the library be reset? and so on 16:06 oleonard paul_p: I attached a rebased patch to Bug 7127, don't know if you want to wait for another signoff or not... 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7127 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Templates must be valid XHTML 16:07 wizzyrea well yea, I was trying to think of a way to fix it so that anything that required home library wouldn't break 16:07 paul_p oleonard, no, I just want the answer to my question to chris (ie= is there a unit test), but that does not prevent me from pushing ! 16:07 wizzyrea but it would be easier to just make everything follow set library, imo 16:07 * paul_p pushes 929, then head to 7430, then 7127 ... 16:07 wizzyrea finding all the things is the challenge there 16:08 oleonard paul_p: I would be interested in the answer to that too! I always test from the browser, which isn't practical for the RM 16:08 wizzyrea frankly I was surprised to find that *anything* even *considered* the home library of the logged in patron 16:08 wizzyrea I made a (bad) assumption that it all followed set library 16:09 kf hmno 16:09 kf not bad at all 16:09 kf it should be consistent :P 16:09 wizzyrea (for the staff client - it makes perfect sense to do that in the OPAC) 16:09 wizzyrea well yes 16:09 wizzyrea :) 16:09 jcamins paul_p: don't push 7430! 16:10 paul_p yikes ! SQL query directly in a .pl ! I missed it & sekjal missed it too !!! it's forbidden ! 929 failed QA ! 16:10 paul_p jcamins, I haven't said i'll push it, i'm heading to test & check it. 16:10 jcamins Okay. 16:10 jcamins Good. 16:10 jcamins Carry on. 16:10 jcamins Looking at it is exactly what I was hoping for. :) 16:11 kf paul_p: *sigh* 16:11 kf paul_p: you are aware we do that in other places too? 16:11 kf like reports? 16:11 kf and it's basically a report 16:11 kf no updates or changes 16:11 kf only display 16:11 jcamins It won't apply cleanly right now. I'll send a revised patch once you look at it and tell me it's not a totally dumb idea. 16:12 jcamins Or, you know, I won't send a revised patch if you tell me it is a totally dumb idea. ;) 16:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7175] Improve order receiving page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7175> / [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7127> 16:13 * wizzyrea does not recall jcamins ever having a *totally* dumb idea 16:13 jcamins wizzyrea: did you look at bug 7430? 16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio 16:13 * oleonard remembers that one time jcamins let a pigeon drive the bus... 16:14 * wizzyrea giggles 16:14 schuster LOL! Not the PIGEON! 16:14 jcamins What can I say? It seemed like a good idea at the time. 16:16 kf paul_p: still around? :) 16:16 paul_p kf, yes. and that's bad. for a totally new script, I don't think it must be accepted. 16:16 paul_p kf, yes. 16:16 kf it's nto totally new 16:16 kf it was deleted 16:16 kf by biblibre 16:16 kf and chris brought it back 16:17 paul_p really ? we deleted a script ? 16:17 kf big regression when introducing new acq 16:17 kf i have pointed that out like forever... and it worried me a lot 16:17 paul_p (I even didn't knew it has ever be here) 16:17 kf it's a long time now 16:19 oleonard Can you git blame a specific commit, or tag, or something? 16:19 kf that's long ago 16:19 kf I can try 16:20 kf onyl saying it's not a new feature 16:20 kf it's regression fixing 16:21 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=d22e1e8a469886c0edcace1a8b081658c3a8140f 16:25 kf other traces of the feature: 16:26 kf bug 2703 16:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2703 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Clicking Spent on Budget Shows Nothing 16:26 kf bug 3080 16:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3080 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, RESOLVED INVALID, "spent" of budget and funds doesn't work 16:27 kf paul_p: it was there when I first showed acq to a library... in dec 2008(?) I think - they loved it and have been asking for it ever since 16:33 paul_p kf, OK, i'll push, but not because it's a kind of stat, where SQL is OK, but because it reintroduces a file that has been removed, and the file had the mistake 16:33 paul_p i'll also ask chris for a kind follow-up ;-) 16:33 kf paul_p: still very glad 16:33 kf :) 16:33 kf thank you 16:34 magnuse yay 16:34 kf I think a lot of those report pages could be rebuilt better 16:34 kf mos tof them are not really accurate :( 16:36 kf andnow time for weekend :) 16:36 kf bye all! 16:38 magnuse bya kf 16:39 Oak magnuse 16:39 magnuse Oak 16:47 reiveune bye 16:47 wizzyrea bye 16:47 wizzyrea never fast enough. 16:52 magnuse oops. choose another language than english in the opac. go to tag cloud. click on a tag. "Language 'sv-se' does not exist" (for example) 16:54 tcohen http://owni.eu/2010/12/15/still-life-bent-objects/ 16:54 magnuse hm, works in 3.4.6, not in 3.6.2 16:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_929' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79b0b7648127180d704a7311c058939c8cb76bf0> / Bug 929 small follow-up (mistake in POD) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5dcc27d14caee68a9aa112c7c0db99a0169980b2> / Bug 929 : Follow up adding unit tests, discovered C4::Dates cached the syspref with... <http://git.koha-community.org/ 16:58 paul_p leaving now, see you next week #koha !!! 16:58 magnuse have fun paul_p! 16:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #588 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:04 tcohen bye paul_p 17:08 jcamins Anyone around who knows about editing system preferences? 17:08 jcamins I mean, the descriptions. 17:09 magnuse jcamins: ask, don't ask to ask ;-) 17:09 jcamins Never mind, I figured it out. 17:09 magnuse yay! 17:09 jcamins I was taking screenshots to explain my problem. 17:10 jcamins It turns out you can't include a : in descriptions. 17:12 jcamins Okay... that's odd. 17:13 jcamins Don't use split '|' 17:13 magnuse which description? in the .conf file? 17:13 jcamins .pref. 17:13 magnuse ah yes, sorry 17:14 jcamins If you want to split on '|' use split /\|/ 17:18 cait back 17:18 jcamins Bother. I'm using MARC::Field::subfields() wrong. 17:22 Oak welcomen back cait :) 17:23 Oak and good night... 17:24 cait oh 17:26 magnuse ? 17:26 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza (and bread) 17:50 tcohen which perlcritic level should we use? 17:51 * oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel 17:51 * wizzyrea laughs 17:52 * jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf. 17:52 magnus_afk "all Perl submitted must validate perlcritic (level 5, the lowest one)" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines 17:52 tcohen thanks magnus_afk 17:52 wizzyrea @quote add *oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel *jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf. 17:52 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #181 added. 17:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #588: UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/588/ 17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Reinstating the breakdown of budgets 17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Follow up, making some improvements to the spent page More to come 17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Last follow up, implementing the last of Katrins suggestions 17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Followup fixing date formatting 17:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=929 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , See details of a budget 17:53 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 929: Follow up - showing fund code instead of internal number 17:53 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7240: Cleaning up import tables and action_logs 17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929: Follow up adding the Koha:: namespace to the list of modules to test 17:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Follow up adding unit tests, discovered C4::Dates cached the syspref with no way to clear it, fixed also. 17:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7240 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Cleaning up import tables and action_logs 17:53 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 929 small follow-up (mistake in POD) 17:53 wizzyrea perlcritic level is <reply> "all Perl submitted must validate perlcritic (level 5, the lowest one)" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines 17:53 wizzyrea perlcritic level? 17:53 wahanui "all Perl submitted must validate perlcritic (level 5, the lowest one)" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines 17:53 wizzyrea unstable WHAT 17:54 wizzyrea templates tests :( 17:54 jcamins Alas. Well, at least I didn't have a patch go in for the last build. 17:54 jcamins :P 17:55 cait and it's 929 17:55 cait *sigh* 17:55 wizzyrea doh 17:55 cait yeah 17:55 cait doh 18:00 tcohen bye, have a nice weekend 18:01 wizzyrea bye 18:23 rangi ahh its not a real error, just complaining it cant find the plugin, ill fix the test 18:23 cait ah cool :) 18:23 wizzyrea and good morning 18:24 rangi morning 18:24 rangi my $tt = Template->new({ABSOLUTE => 1, INCLUDE_PATH => $includes }); 18:24 rangi doesn't have the path for where plugins live 18:24 cait and morning :) 18:25 jcamins rangi: morning. I guess the world gets through Friday the thirteenth? 18:25 rangi needs PLUGIN_BASE => 'Koha::Template::Plugin', 18:25 rangi yep it does :) 18:25 cait oh 18:25 cait didn't even notice 18:26 jcamins cait: yep, and the full moon was this week, too. 18:27 jcamins (I just had to look that up... I didn't know that off the top of my head) 18:27 jcamins @wunder 11375 18:27 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 0.6�C (1:03 PM EST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa. Wind Advisory in effect until midnight EST tonight... 18:28 cait that explains... 18:28 cait hm... not much really 18:28 jcamins cait: I thought it might. 18:29 jcamins ... oh. 18:29 jcamins ;) 18:31 rangi @wunder nzwn 18:31 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 14, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Rising). 18:31 cait @wunder Konstanz 18:31 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.4�C (7:29 PM CET on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Steady). 18:35 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 929] See details of a budget <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=929> 18:36 rangi look 18:36 rangi and easy peasy sign off 18:36 rangi just run the test, then apply the patch and run it again 18:36 cait :) 18:36 cait I will do it 18:36 cait in a minute 18:40 rangi yay! 18:40 jcamins rangi: how do I write a test for something in the Koha:: namespace. 18:40 jcamins I mean, where does the file go. 18:41 jcamins The one for Koha::Cache is just t/Cache. 18:42 rangi what i did for 929 18:42 jcamins I need to write tests for Koha::Search and Koha::Search::Engine. 18:43 rangi Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t 18:43 rangi so 18:43 jcamins Okay, thanks. 18:43 rangi Koha_Search.t 18:43 rangi in that case 18:43 jcamins Koha_Search.t and Koha_Search_Engine.t. 18:43 rangi i just made it up, but it seems to work 18:43 rangi :) 18:46 * jcamins learns about the grep function. 18:46 rangi git grep? or perl grep? 18:46 rangi both cool 18:47 jcamins Perl grep. 18:47 jcamins Whoah! 18:47 * jcamins just learned about git grep. 18:47 cait woah? 18:48 jcamins Like "Wow!" only with a different vowel. 18:48 cait hehe 18:48 cait I know that 18:49 cait but wanted to know what's so awesome about git grep :) 18:49 jcamins Did you know about git grep? 18:49 cait nope 18:56 jcamins Hrm. Why didn't this work? 18:56 jcamins ok(grep {$_ eq 'Search'} @indexes, "Search engine supports Subject index"); 18:59 rangi it will hand back an array 18:59 rangi grep that is 19:00 rangi @foo = grep(!/^#/, @bar); 19:00 huginn rangi: I've exhausted my database of quotes 19:00 rangi heh 19:00 rangi and @foo != "a string" 19:00 jcamins Hm. Okay, how do I do it properly? 19:01 jcamins This doesn't work either: ok(exists {map { $_ => 1 } @indexes}->{'Subject'}, "Search engine supports Subject index"); 19:01 rangi @later tell paul_p bug 929 template tests patch signed off 19:01 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 19:02 jcamins And the array does include 'Subject' 19:03 rangi but 19:03 rangi ok(grep {$_ eq 'Search'} @indexes, "Search engine supports Subject index"); 19:03 rangi looking for search? 19:03 jcamins Subject. 19:03 jcamins I changed it to Subject. 19:03 jcamins Sorry 'bout that. 19:03 rangi and its the only element ? 19:04 jcamins No, there are lots of elements. 19:04 jcamins That's one of them. 19:04 rangi returned by the grep i mean 19:04 jcamins Ah. 19:04 jcamins No, the grep doesn't work. 19:04 rangi grep always returns an array 19:04 rangi try this 19:05 rangi my @resutlt = grep(/Subject/, @indexes); 19:05 rangi but without typoes 19:05 jcamins Right. 19:06 rangi and look in @result 19:06 jcamins Hmmm... that doesn't seem to be working either. 19:07 jcamins Odd. I see the 'Subject' entry in the @indexes array. 19:08 jcamins Well, clearly this is the problem. 19:15 jcamins No luck. Oh well. 19:17 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/588/HTML_Report/? <-- we got up to 51% subroutine coverage now 19:19 cait yay :) 19:19 cait the modern perl has a chapter about testing :) 19:20 * jcamins_away takes a nap. 20:17 jcamins cait: so are you an expert on testing now? 20:17 cait no 20:17 cait not reachedthat chapter 20:17 cait only started the book this morning :) 20:17 cait but already read the table of contents heh 20:17 jcamins Ah. What are you an expert on now? 20:17 jcamins :) 20:21 cait hm 20:21 cait I read about perldoc this morning 20:21 jcamins Yay! 20:22 jcamins You're our new perldoc expert! :D 20:22 cait hmpf 20:22 cait what are you trying to do here? 20:23 jcamins cait: I just woke up from a nap, so I'm silly. 20:23 * cait takes a note about that fact 20:23 cait do you have any cookies to go along with your silliness? 20:24 jcamins Nope. :( 20:25 cait ! 20:25 cait I had oreos... 20:25 cait well... had. 20:46 Culiforge I keep gettin an error when trying to install CPAN modules... 20:46 Culiforge Warning: Cannot install Memoize::Memcached::PDF::API2::Simple, don't know what it is. 20:46 Culiforge Try the command 20:46 Culiforge i /Memoize::Memcached::PDF::API2::Simple/ 20:46 rangi thats because those are 2 different things 20:47 Culiforge it almost seems like a typo but then I can't say as I know what i'm talking about... I just copied it from the git tutorial 20:47 rangi did you miss a space or something? or add extra :: 20:47 rangi hmm 20:47 Culiforge http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid;h=562dafd01c305c79fb19fbc701c338b5ed0eac3c;hb=HEAD 20:47 jcamins i Memoize::MEmcached 20:47 Culiforge line 99 20:47 jcamins i PDF::API2::Simple 20:48 rangi $ sudo cpan HTTP::OAI Locale::Currency::Format Memoize::Memcached \ PDF::API2::Simple Storable Text::CSV::Encoded 20:48 rangi that ? 20:48 wahanui that is a good goal 20:48 Culiforge yeh 20:48 Culiforge yeah 20:48 jcamins Culiforge: you added an extra two ::s 20:48 rangi yup 20:48 jcamins Rather, :: or two :s 20:48 jcamins That wasn't a smiley. 20:48 * jcamins gives up. 20:48 wizzyrea you added two sets of colons 20:48 * wizzyrea is not being gross 20:49 Culiforge ok, the line numbers split the command and I guess I was thinking I was accomodating for it 20:49 rangi yes 20:50 jcamins Culiforge: no, the \ means that the next line is a continuation. 20:50 rangi the \ means the command can span 2 lines 20:50 * wizzyrea gets a coke for the first one to jinx 20:51 Culiforge ok, I was unaware... two months using linux.. trying to pick things up tho :) 20:51 Culiforge Running make test 20:51 Culiforge Can't test without successful make 20:51 Culiforge Running make install 20:51 Culiforge Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible 20:52 jcamins Culiforge: you have to run make first. 20:52 jcamins (and I suspect you may have missed a few other steps as well) 20:53 rangi or is that cpan saying that? 20:53 Culiforge cpan 20:53 jcamins Oh. 20:53 jcamins I see. 20:53 Culiforge I'm following the git tutorial line by line 20:53 schuster I hate to say this but in the install instructions maybe that \ on broken lines needs be commented at the top? I know I had problems with it too and always was VERY literal when typing/copying at the command line 20:54 schuster Culiforge - are you trying to get a development install or just be able to run Koha? 20:54 Culiforge I go t as far as Makefie.PL this morning and was told that I had cpan dependency issues 20:55 Culiforge so I scrolled back and discovered problems installing that string of cpan mods 20:55 Culiforge just trying to get koha running 20:56 rangi here 20:56 rangi try this 20:56 rangi wget http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libm/libmemoize-memcached-perl/libmemoize-memcached-perl_0.03-2_all.deb 20:56 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7430] ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7430> 20:57 rangi wget http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libp/libpdf-api2-simple-perl/libpdf-api2-simple-perl_1.1.4u-1_all.deb 20:57 schuster oh they are doing Ubuntu never mind out of my knowledge base. 20:57 rangi that will get you the packages for those 2 modules 20:58 rangi sudo dpkg -i libmemoize-memcached-perl_0.03-2_all.deb 20:58 rangi sudo dpkg -i libpdf-api2-simple-perl_1.1.4u-1_all.deb 20:58 Culiforge hmm, shouldn't that have opened with the deb package installer? 20:58 Culiforge ahh 20:58 rangi not if you wget it 20:58 rangi but you could open it with the installer too if you wanted 20:59 * rangi never installs from cpan if i can find a package to install from instead 20:59 rangi and since liw and eythian packaged those for debian, they are also in ubuntu 21:01 Culiforge so I run that.... then what? back to cpan to make sure it all installed> 21:01 Culiforge ? 21:02 rangi not cpan no 21:02 rangi you can then run 21:02 rangi ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m 21:02 rangi (which is what the Makefile.PL does (or close to it) 21:03 rangi and it will tell you if you have any missing dependencies still 21:03 rangi if not 21:03 rangi perl Makefile.PL 21:03 rangi if you werent already halfway through installing from git, i would now tell you to just use the koha-common debian package which does all this for you and works on lucid 21:04 Culiforge http://pastebin.com/Diq5JWxb 21:04 Culiforge I was trying to find that.... magnus suggested this was best 21:05 rangi you did the dpkg -i right? 21:05 Culiforge yeah 21:06 rangi for both? 21:06 rangi because it looks like it only did the PDF::API one 21:06 rangi anyway, your real problem is Business::ISBN 21:06 Culiforge both... 21:06 rangi thats the only one thats required the rest are optional 21:07 Culiforge I did the sudo dpkg -i for =>>>http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libp/libpdf-api2-simple-perl/libpdf-api2-simple-perl_1.1.4u-1_all.deb 21:07 Culiforge I guess I don't understand what you mean both 21:07 rangi 09:57 <@rangi> sudo dpkg -i libmemoize-memcached-perl_0.03-2_all.deb 21:07 rangi 09:57 <@rangi> sudo dpkg -i libpdf-api2-simple-perl_1.1.4u-1_all.deb 21:08 Culiforge yes I entered that line 21:08 rangi both lines? 21:09 Culiforge I'm confuddled 21:09 rangi there are 2 lines there 21:09 rangi you need to do, 2 wget 21:09 rangi then 2 dpkg -i 21:10 rangi after you have done those ones 21:10 rangi then you can do 21:10 Culiforge you posted the link to the deb packages.. and I downloaded it and ran sudo dpkg -i on it 21:10 rangi i posted 2 links to 2 different packages 21:10 rangi did you download them both 21:11 rangi then dpkg -i them both? 21:11 rangi if so then you can now do 21:11 rangi wget http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libb/libbusiness-isbn-perl/libbusiness-isbn-perl_2.03-1_all.deb 21:11 rangi sudo dpkg -i libbusiness-isbn-perl_2.03-1_all.deb 21:13 Culiforge ok, getting somwhere... I guess I didn't see the 2nd post 21:13 Culiforge http://pastebin.com/MZeypAmF 21:14 Culiforge both lines run with dpkg 21:18 rangi ah ha 21:18 rangi i can fix that one 21:18 rangi wget http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libb/libbusiness-isbn-data-perl/libbusiness-isbn-data-perl_1.17-1_all.deb 21:18 rangi sudo dpkg -i libbusiness-isbn-data-perl_1.17-1_all.deb 21:20 Culiforge ok, that was tidy 21:22 Culiforge ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m shows ==> cgi::session::driver::memcached/gravatar::url/memoize::memcached missing 21:22 Culiforge and btw that's : D 21:24 Culiforge you said those were optional correct? 21:24 rangi yup 21:25 Culiforge so Makefile.PL again? 21:26 rangi yup 21:32 Culiforge http://pastebin.com/JrHaDYpF 21:33 rangi yep just warnings and you can safely ignore those 21:33 Culiforge I'm always a bit itchy about ignoring warnings... :S 21:34 Culiforge but ok 21:36 wizzyrea if you were going to trust anybody, it'd be rangi. 21:36 * cait agrees :) 21:39 rangi on that note 21:39 rangi you also need to send me a money order for $1,000,000 21:39 wizzyrea i have no doubt that you'd do something awesome with it. 21:40 Culiforge ok, I'll send you one.. (wouldn't cash it if I were you though) 21:43 Culiforge places don't like to cash MO's written on gum wrappers 21:43 rangi heh 21:43 Culiforge but I'm still willin' to send it to you 21:45 Culiforge thanks for all the help and handholding btw I appreciate it 21:45 rhcl RE: http://www.destinyexpress.com/product/36910A/Follett%207100%20Wireless%20Scanner/ 21:46 rhcl This device seems to simply be running Win CE, with two custom apps, Follett Mini-Destiny and Follett Remote software. Anybody have any idea how those programs work? 21:48 rangi Culiforge: no worries, imho its what makes koha great is the people who use it and develop it 21:48 rangi rhcl: hmmm nope 21:49 rhcl wonder if somebody like druthb might have a guess 21:49 Culiforge rangi: and for that I'm grateful.. otherwise I'd just be a nervous twitching mess while i hand write catalog cards 21:49 rangi where abouts in the world are you Culiforge ? 21:50 rhcl it's much easier to print out catalog cards with a computer and printer, FWIW 21:50 Culiforge US, Michigan 21:52 Culiforge what about you? 21:53 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:53 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.6�C (10:49 PM CET on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Steady). 21:55 rangi @wunder nzwn 21:55 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on January 14, 2012). Conditions: . Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). 22:01 Culiforge so setting up zebra as a daemon... um.. what's my {scritpt_dir} since i pretty much have the default install params 22:01 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks 22:01 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 2.6�C (4:00 PM CST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). 22:01 wizzyrea golly it's chilly 22:01 Culiforge doh, nvm just found it 22:02 jcamins You know what this world needs? 22:02 wizzyrea more cookies? 22:03 jcamins That's a good idea too. 22:03 jcamins I was thinking more people like River Tam. 22:03 wizzyrea baling wire and duct tape? 22:03 jcamins [off] People for whom the line "Also, I could kill you with my brain" applied. 22:04 jcamins [off] And if they had a vendetta against people involved with real estate, that would be totally fine by me. 22:05 rangi heh 22:06 Culiforge do I need to use the scroll brackets in this statement==> sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon 22:07 rangi you should substitute the actual path in there 22:07 Culiforge without brackets correct? 22:07 rangi correct and without the $ 22:08 Culiforge ahh, that's my problem... (amongst others) 22:08 rangi so something like /home/your_user/koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh 22:08 rangi (or similar) 22:09 Culiforge so default path in statement should look==> sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon 22:09 rangi that looks about right to me 22:10 Culiforge ok, I run sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults and get.. 22:10 Culiforge update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist 22:12 Culiforge ok, anyway. I have to go.. supper time.. thanks again for the assistance. 22:14 rangi hmm that libeo request looks fine to me 22:14 wizzyrea *nod* was going to check their website 22:15 wizzyrea and yea, looks ok to me 22:17 rangi yup 22:17 rangi links back nice and prominent 22:25 schuster @wunder 75074 22:25 huginn schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 13.2�C (4:19 PM CST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Steady). 22:25 schuster Warmer than wizzyrea at least... Have a great weekend everyone!! 22:26 rangi cya schuster 22:27 wizzyrea :) 22:27 jcamins A lot warmer than here, I think. 22:27 jcamins @wunder 11375 22:27 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is -1.1�C (5:03 PM EST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa. Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... 22:27 jcamins Yup. 22:33 schuster brrr... ok by! Three day weekend here I come! 22:33 magnus_afk @wunder boo 22:33 huginn magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (11:20 PM CET on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 22:33 jcamins It's colder in NYC? 22:33 jcamins Weird. 22:34 magnus_afk moahaha! 22:37 magnus_afk g'night #koha 22:37 wizzyrea gnite magnus_afk 23:48 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7143] Bug for tracking changes to the about page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143>