IRC log for #koha, 2011-12-22

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00:14 jcamins_away wizzyrea: you should stabilize your egg yolks by gently heating in milk.
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00:40 glernil good day!
00:40 rangi hi glernil
00:41 glernil I am having problem in my debian installation
00:41 glernil I can't upgrade my instance to the latest version
00:42 glernil I have 2 instances in my machine. I deleted the 1st instance and upgraded the 2nd one to version 3.4
00:43 glernil Now, i'm trying to upgrade my 2nd instance to the latest version (3.6) but i am recieving the following error
00:43 glernil root@debian:/home/vsja-library# /usr/sbin/koha-remove vsja Removing Koha instance vsja ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_vsja'@'%'
00:44 rangi hmm that looks like you are trying to remove one, not upgrade?
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00:45 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4530] Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4530>
00:46 glernil yup that's because i just can't upgrade using the update manager
00:47 glernil so i thought the first instance is not totally removed
00:48 jcamins_away glernil: there's a problem with koha-remove.
00:48 rangi hmm why cant you upgrade using apt-get ?
00:48 jcamins_away rangi: probably koha-remove.
00:49 glernil how can i upgrade to 3.6 from 3.4 using the command line
00:50 glernil yup.. it is probably the koha-remove script which is not successful in deleting the first instance
00:50 glernil it still see my first instance when i upgrade
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00:51 rangi just do koha-disable firstinstance
00:51 rangi apt-get update
00:51 rangi apt-get install koha-common
00:52 rangi the problem with koha-remove is that the user doesnt have rights to drop the db
00:52 rangi sorry drop the user
00:52 rangi but you can just disable it
00:52 jcamins_away rangi: no, the problem is that koha-remove died midway.
00:52 jcamins_away I just patched that.
00:53 glernil jcamins_away: root@debian:/home/vsja-library# /usr/sbin/koha-disable vsja apache2: bad user name vsja-koha Action 'configtest' failed. The Apache error log may have more information.  failed!
00:53 jcamins_away Yeah.
00:53 jcamins_away glernil: run each command listed in /usr/sbin/koha-remove with sudo.
00:53 jcamins_away You'll get errors for almost all of them.
00:54 jcamins_away Ignore the errors.
00:54 glernil i'm using the superuser terminal so i think sudo is not important
00:54 jcamins_away glernil: yeah, no need for sudo if you're su'd to root.
00:56 glernil what command? i just run /usr/sbin/koha-remove instance1
00:57 jcamins_away glernil: cat /usr/sbin/koha-remove
00:57 jcamins_away Then run each line manually.
00:57 jcamins_away glernil: wait, no.
00:58 jcamins_away Better idea.
00:58 jcamins_away (one moment)
00:59 jcamins_away Run the following: wget -O ~/koha-remove[…]ha-remove;hb=HEAD
00:59 jcamins_away No, this:
00:59 jcamins_away wget -O ~/koha-remove "[…]ha-remove;hb=HEAD"
00:59 jcamins_away Then run ~/koha-remove instance1
01:02 glernil i ran the first script you gave but an error occured
01:03 glernil ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_vsja'@'%' root@debian:/home/vsja-library# ~/koha-remove vsja bash: /root/koha-remove: Permission denied
01:04 rangi chmod +x koha-remove
01:04 * jcamins_away has to go now.
01:05 jcamins_away Good luck.
01:05 jcamins_away rangi: the issue is the one described in bug 6997.
01:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6997 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, koha-remove leaves system in inconsistent state if there is an error
01:05 glernil rangi: root@debian:/home/vsja-library# chmod +x koha-remove chmod: cannot access `koha-remove': No such file or directory
01:06 rangi chmod +x ~/koha-remove
01:07 glernil rangi: it ran without error... and then?
01:07 rangi try ~/koha-remove vsja
01:07 glernil rangi: root@debian:/home/vsja-library# ~/koha-remove vsja Removing Koha instance vsja ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_vsja'@'%'
01:09 rangi hmm doesnt look like that patch fixed it then, ah well
01:09 rangi id do the first plan
01:09 rangi cat /usr/sbin/koha-remove
01:09 rangi and run each line
01:09 glernil ok.. i'll try
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01:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6129] ISSN url param for <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6129>
01:51 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6627] [security] insecure file creation <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6627> / [Bug 7339] Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7339> / [Bug 7341] Clicking cancel on system preferences search results causes error <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7341>
01:51 glernil rangi: everything went smoothly. Thanks! :)
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02:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7220] Returns page message boxes being ignored <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7220>
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03:17 AmitG heya bag
03:22 bag heya AmitG
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04:02 Brooke o/
04:06 AmitG heya Brooke :D
04:06 Brooke how's it going?
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04:07 Oak kia ora Brooke! -:)
04:07 Brooke Kia ora :D
04:09 bag hi there Brooke
04:10 Brooke howdy
04:10 wahanui hola, Brooke
04:11 AmitG heya wahanui
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04:26 cait good morning #koha
04:27 eythian good cait, morning.
04:27 cait hm?
04:28 Brooke morning cait
04:28 cait morning Brooke
04:29 Oak Guten Morgen miss cait :)
04:30 bag heya cait Oak and eythian
04:30 cait morning mr Oak and hi bag
04:48 AmitG heya ciat, Oak
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05:08 Oak hello AmitG :)
05:08 cait hi AmitG
05:25 Brooke ciao!
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05:30 bag is tomorrow friday yet?
05:31 cait yes
05:31 cait and the day before christmas
05:31 bag hmm…  isn't christmas on sunday
05:32 cait hm, is this a timezone thing? :)
05:32 bag and tomorrow really is thursday for me
05:32 cait oh
05:32 cait no, today is thursday :)
05:32 bag no it's not :)
05:32 bag and christmas isn't until sunday
05:32 cait I think we can agree to disagree here :)
05:32 bag and I think that's everywhere
05:33 cait we get presents on evening of 24th
05:33 bag oh no - that's cheating here :)
05:33 cait no, not cheating here :)
05:33 bag so that's like getting presents almost two days ahead of me
05:33 cait dinner with the family and after that presents
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05:40 Oak cool
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05:47 cait morning hdl :)
05:48 cait <3 bug 6536
05:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing
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06:08 cait if I could make it work with our sru server it would be even better
06:08 cait hm.
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06:32 magnus_afk presents_on_24th++
06:34 cait :)
06:34 cait morning magnuse
06:34 magnus_afk morgen cait
06:38 magnus_afk and happy solstice, #koha!
06:39 cait :)
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06:58 Oak magnuse
06:59 magnus_afk Oak
07:40 alex_a morning !
07:40 magnus_afk bonjour!
07:40 alex_a :)
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07:43 marcelr morning koha
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08:01 julian_m hi
08:01 marcelr hi julian_m
08:02 julian_m hi marcelr
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08:07 gaetan_B hello
08:08 asaurat hi!
08:09 marcelr hi gaetan_B and asaurat
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08:16 kf back
08:18 magnus_afk wb kf
08:18 marcelr hi kf; thanks for 6536
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08:18 kf marcelr: it's a really nice addition
08:18 kf I have lots of ideas for the custom xslt
08:19 marcelr kf: how long would it take someone to test it for unimarc?
08:19 kf not sure
08:19 kf perhaps someone from biblibre could take a look?
08:19 kf I was not feeling confident to look at the code or the sru implementation- can only confirm it works
08:19 marcelr yes, did it take you much time?
08:20 kf I didn't do it in one session. so not sure how long it took me
08:20 marcelr ok
08:20 kf I think around 2 hours max
08:20 francharb hi
08:20 kf perhaps you can help me figure out how to put our sru server in there?
08:20 kf I got a link from my coworker but I am not sure how I have to put the configuration into koha
08:20 marcelr your koha server
08:21 kf no, the sru server of our union catalog
08:21 marcelr send me a mail?
08:21 kf it's experimental at the moment
08:21 kf probably has to wait until next year, it's not public yet
08:21 kf and people are already gone for the holidays :)
08:22 marcelr ok
08:22 kf I think the gui is a bit debatable
08:22 kf and we should put some documentation in the manual :)
08:22 kf and on the help page
08:22 marcelr it needs some follow up, true
08:22 marcelr can remove some dead code too
08:23 kf I also like that you refactored the code for acq and z39.50
08:23 kf I was in there once and saw lots of code was copied
08:23 marcelr yes
08:23 kf I was repairing the lccn search for someone, but not able to fix the copy and paste
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08:47 magnus_afk so the web installer says "Please upgrade to a newer version of Perl (at least Version 5.006001)" when it should be asking for at least version 5.10, but how should the format number be formatted?
08:47 magnus_afk is just "5.10" ok, or should it be 5.010001 or something?
08:48 kf no idea
08:48 magnus_afk rangi around?
08:52 magnus_afk bug 7375 anyway...
08:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7375 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , The web installer asks for the wrong Perl version
09:00 kf marcel commented on the bug
09:01 magnus_afk yup, thanks marcelr
09:01 marcelr ok
09:02 kf marcelr++
09:02 kf @karma marcelr
09:02 huginn kf: Karma for "marcelr" has been increased 25 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 25.
09:02 kf marcelr: and thx for your qa qork
09:03 kf qa work
09:03 marcelr kf: you need some more kf++ for your testing and signing!!
09:03 kf ah, I am fine :)
09:03 magnus_afk agreed kf++
09:03 kf you made it easy to test
09:03 kf providing a test plan and examples
09:04 marcelr had to..
09:04 kf had to... be a good example as qa person? :)
09:04 marcelr was not yet at the time
09:05 kf oh right away a question
09:05 kf does the sru work with password and username?
09:05 kf and where should I put it?
09:05 marcelr depends
09:05 marcelr some servers require, others do not
09:05 kf ah
09:05 kf our server requires it seems
09:05 marcelr we use one with a password
09:05 kf yours seemed ok without, so not sure if it was supported at the moment
09:07 marcelr we use a sru server that contains user and password in the url; i saved it in the db field
09:08 kf ah ok
09:08 kf perhaps we should add some more examples to the wiki or somewhere else
09:08 marcelr i would like more examples
09:09 marcelr but they should return marc21 or unimarc
09:09 marcelr many return other xml
09:09 kf hm yes
09:09 kf it seems our server needs to be told what is sent back
09:09 kf I will try to work it out with the coworker
09:09 marcelr recordSchema
09:09 kf yes
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09:44 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7013] required format is not enforced for authorized values <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7013>
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09:49 francharb hi kf
09:49 francharb have you ever had trouble with items.permanent_location?
09:50 francharb i thought that you could map any subfield within items.permanent_location
09:50 kf hi francharb :)
09:50 francharb but apparently, i get something related to items.location...
09:50 kf hm
09:50 kf I think that is a featue
09:50 francharb do you know how it works?
09:50 kf for the cart and proc locations
09:51 kf we don't use it but there are system preferences and cronjobs related to it
09:51 kf the idea is
09:51 kf if you have a newly cataloged item
09:51 kf it gets location PROC = "in cataloguing" or something
09:51 kf until you check it in
09:51 kf and the other feature is
09:52 kf when something is returned, it gets location = CART = " on the return cart"
09:52 kf and the real location is saved in permanent_locaton
09:52 kf then you run a cronjob nightly to put it back from CART to the real location
09:52 kf or run the cronjob whenever the library normally puts the books back on the shelf
09:52 kf does that make sense?
09:53 kf so I think it's not supposed to be mapped to any field, it's for internal use
09:53 kf ReturnToShelvingCart
09:53 francharb so we should use items.permanent_location for the real location avec keep items.location empty to use this feature, right?
09:53 kf InProcessingToShelvingCart
09:53 kf are the system preferences
09:53 kf and there should also be a cronjob
09:53 kf nope
09:53 kf leave the mapping as is
09:54 kf the program code should deal with moving around the information
09:54 kf I am not sure this has ever been tested for UNIMARC - it's a ptfs feature
09:54 kf when the item goes to cart or proc, the real location will be temporarily stored in permanent_location
09:55 kf because the temporary location goes into location...
09:55 francharb ok, items.permanent_location is like a buffer?
09:55 kf if that makes any sense
09:55 kf afaik
09:55 francharb it does!!
09:55 kf I wanted to test and use it for ourlibraries,but have not got around to it
09:55 francharb thank you very much
09:55 francharb kf++
09:55 kf I think there should be somehting on the manual too :)
09:58 francharb ;)
10:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7375] Update minimum version of Perl to 5.10 <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7375>
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10:25 francharb kf, if you use InProcessingToShelvingCart
10:25 francharb it means
10:26 francharb when you catalogue a new item
10:26 francharb you have to put the location at PROC
10:26 francharb and the real location in permanent_location?
10:26 francharb or you just dont pay attention
10:27 francharb the new item will get PROC automatically?
10:27 francharb i should test it!
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10:40 kf francharb: sorry was not here, I think you catalog it normally (only putting in the final location) and the rest is done by the software
10:40 kf but you should test it :)
10:40 kf because I haven't really and it's been there for a while (sometimes things break)
10:42 francharb thanks kf!!!!!!!!!
10:42 francharb i will test it
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10:54 hdl1 kf: found 6842 bug...
10:54 kf bug 6842
10:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Branch transfer limits broken
10:54 kf oh
10:54 kf are you sending a patch
10:54 kf ?
10:54 kf I could test later today
10:54 hdl1 it comes from the table-pager.
10:54 hdl1 I will.
10:54 kf cool :)
10:54 kf hdl++
10:55 hdl1 later today
10:55 hdl1 first patch would consist in removing
10:55 hdl1 first patch would consist in removing table-pager.inv
10:55 hdl1 inc
10:55 hdl1 even
10:55 kf hm
10:55 kf I think owen got it working once
10:55 kf withthe pager
10:55 kf when I tested, but something seems to be broken again now
10:58 kf lunch time :)
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11:09 jcamins_away marcelr++ # for SRU copy cataloging
11:09 jcamins_away kf++ # for signing off on the SRU copy cataloging
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11:15 AmitG heya gaetan_B
11:15 gaetan_B hi AmitG
11:16 magnuse hiya AmitG and jcamins_away
11:16 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
11:16 jcamins Hello AmitG, gaetan_B, and magnuse.
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11:28 francharb anyone knows if there is a problem with biblioitems.notes?
11:28 kf hm, problem like?
11:29 kf I am not sure what it's used for, footnotes? but which field
11:29 francharb i mapped biblio.notes and biblioitems.notes with different subfields
11:29 francharb and i got nothing in biblioitems.note
11:32 jcamins Are prediction patterns broken?
11:32 AmitG heya magnuse, jcamins
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11:33 jcamins Anyone around who uses prediction patterns?
11:34 francharb kf, it looks like this problem is oooooooold
11:34 francharb[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=515
11:34 huginn Bug 515: critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, biblio.notes ignores Marclinks mapping  durring import
11:34 francharb it was "resolved" because "Commits went into CVS some time ago, as mentioned on IRC.  Is this bug still
11:34 francharb present?" "fixed because nobody claims for it it seems."
11:34 francharb so actually, i may not have been resolved at all
11:36 kf jcamins: here
11:36 kf serials?
11:36 jcamins kf: yeah.
11:36 kf the prediction is only broken for enhanced patterns I think the rest should hopefully work
11:37 kf I normally test it in the database and then create the real subscription in the real database...
11:37 kf not so nice
11:37 jcamins Oh, never mind.
11:37 jcamins There's no issue in January.
11:37 jcamins It arrives in February.
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11:38 jcamins kf: operator error.
11:39 kf oki
11:41 jcamins This is what happens when I do serials before 7am.
11:44 kf so early!
11:47 jcamins Shari and her mother are trying to get rush tickets to see How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying (with Harry Potter), so they had to leave very early.
11:51 kf ?
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11:52 magnuse[…]ut-really-trying/ ?
11:52 jcamins That's the one.
11:53 kf interesting
11:53 wahanui interesting is good
11:54 * jcamins forces himself not to kill the spider- it might eat the roaches.
11:54 kf oh
11:54 kf must be a big spider then
11:54 jcamins new_york--
11:54 jcamins Little roaches.
11:54 kf yeah I agree
11:54 kf you should move to germany
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11:55 kf and make fudge for me :)
11:55 jcamins :)
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12:26 francharb hey kf it's christmas before chrismas!
12:26 francharb for the biblioitems.notes
12:26 francharb the mapping doest work
12:27 francharb because
12:27 francharb you have to map the field to biblioitems.bnotes
12:27 francharb that doesnt exist in koha
12:27 francharb but you can find it
12:27 francharb within the biblios framework
12:28 francharb so if you want anything in biblioitems.note
12:28 francharb you have to go througr each framework
12:28 francharb find the kohalink biblioitems.bnotes
12:28 francharb set it up
12:28 francharb and it will work!
12:28 francharb \0/
12:29 francharb the hidden gift
12:29 francharb the one you didn't expect
12:29 francharb but makes everything better
12:29 francharb ;)
12:29 francharb i need a drink now
12:29 francharb :)
12:30 francharb thanks julian_m for finding that by the way!
12:32 kf francharb: instead of going through all frameworks - try administration koha-to-marc-mapping :)
12:32 kf should change all at once - but merry christmas :)
12:32 francharb kf, thats the thing
12:32 francharb it doest work this way
12:32 kf sorry meeting :)
12:32 kf 30 min
12:32 francharb thats what we did
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12:33 hdl1 francharb: KohaToMarc mapping to remap a field :
12:33 hdl1 You should
12:33 francharb for this one only, you have to go through everyframework
12:33 francharb hdl1, i know
12:33 francharb BUT
12:33 hdl1 delete first and make it bla,k
12:33 hdl1 blank
12:33 hdl1 save
12:33 hdl1 then re map that.
12:34 francharb you have to map this field with biblioitems.bnotes and bnotes doesn't exist
12:34 hdl1 otherwise, you feel like it doesnot work.
12:34 francharb nope
12:34 hdl1 k
12:34 hdl1 k
12:34 hdl1 k
12:34 francharb for evey field
12:34 francharb it will work
12:34 francharb but not this one
12:34 francharb apparently
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12:38 francharb to make the difference between biblio.notes and biblioitems.notes, koha add a "b" at notes for biblioitems.notes. it's hardcodded
12:38 francharb and this biblioitems.bnotes doest exist in the koha to marc mapping
12:38 francharb but it doesnt within the catalogue framework...
12:38 francharb my2cts
12:38 francharb ;)
12:39 francharb merry christmas
12:39 francharb ;)
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13:12 hdl1 kf: about bug 6348, there is more than one way to do it.
13:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6348 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , can still place holds for expired patrons
13:12 hdl1 oups
13:13 hdl1 bug 6842 sorry
13:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Branch transfer limits broken
13:14 hdl1 Simple but not so nice : simply remove
13:14 hdl1 oneliner patch.
13:15 hdl1 But removes also the pagination... With big libraries, it is quite embarassing.
13:15 hdl1 smarter but depends on 6636 datatables : change tablesorter to datatables in that page.
13:16 hdl1 I did the latter.
13:16 hdl1 And sending the latter.
13:17 hdl1 marcelr: kf_mtg Joubu tried hard to sign off on bug 6536, but he faces a problem using the nypl z3950 server and even the LOC z3950 server.
13:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing
13:18 ago43 hi, does anyone know the proper command for in a package install?
13:18 marcelr hdl1: could you send me his parameters for the server?
13:18 hdl1 when getting the z3950 record as_xml, the xml contains <collection></collection> as root. But it prevents the xslt MARC21toUNIMARC.xsl to do its work.
13:19 hdl1[…]%3A7090%2Fvoyager
13:19 hdl1 here you are.
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13:19 marcelr will try now too
13:20 hdl1 I can send you the xml he got from LOC and you could test the xsl.
13:20 marcelr please do
13:20 hdl1 using as_xml_record would do the job.
13:20 hdl1 But could break the SRU, I don't know.
13:21 marcelr i will have a look
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13:25 hdl1 marcelr: done, you should have the xml in your box.
13:25 hdl1 Hi collum
13:25 marcelr hdl1: received
13:25 collum Good morning
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13:51 jcamins ago43: koha-rebuild-zebra instance or something like that.
13:51 jcamins Optionally --full
13:53 ago43 thanks!
14:01 jcamins You're welcome.
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14:04 hdl1 is there anyone using branch transfer limits around ?
14:10 hdl1 k
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14:21 kf back :)
14:23 kf hdl1: sorry, we are not really using it yet
14:23 kf the branch transfer limits but I can test the interface
14:23 hdl1 kf: sent the patch. I hope you can see.
14:26 kf yes I got it
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14:31 kf hdl1: could you ask joubu to take another look at late order management? I feel we are almost there it's only an encoding problem in the mail now that has to be fixed.
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14:37 kf marcelr++ :)
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14:37 marcelr hdl1: still there?
14:37 wahanui it has been said that there is no spoon.
14:37 kf no you missed me giving you karma again :)
14:37 kf for the quick fix
14:38 marcelr i hope he runs this fix
14:38 marcelr simple problem in the xslt that i copied from biblibre once
14:38 hdl1 marcelr: yep ?
14:38 wahanui well, yep is the first bug in face in koha
14:38 marcelr hdl1: i sent a fixc
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14:38 marcelr there was no apply-templates in the unimarxc xslt
14:39 marcelr it is on bugzilla
14:39 marcelr you should apply it on top
14:39 hdl1 k
14:39 hdl1 will try
14:39 marcelr i installed a unimarc koha and loc seems to work..
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14:47 kf hi maximep :)
14:48 maximep hello
14:48 maximep 2 days of work left :D
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15:14 wizzyrea forget yep
15:14 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot yep
15:24 gmcharlt nope is yep
15:24 gmcharlt nope?
15:24 wahanui nope is yep
15:25 gmcharlt forget nope
15:25 wahanui gmcharlt: I forgot nope
15:27 wizzyrea huh. the cron wikipedia page is surprisingly helpful. :P
15:28 kf hi gmcharlt and wizzyrea :)
15:28 gmcharlt hi kf
15:28 wizzyrea hi kf :)
15:29 * kf puts christmas cookies (weihnachtskekse) in the middle of #koha
15:29 wizzyrea oh right, is it party day in kiribati yet?
15:30 wizzyrea ;)
15:30 * wizzyrea still has one more day to get the presents together
15:30 wizzyrea but I'm reeeally close
15:31 * kf is curious to no end
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15:51 jcamins There aren't any scripts for exporting all the authority or bibliographic records, are there?
15:51 jcamins Well, you can export everything using the UI.
15:51 jcamins All the bibliographic records, I mean.
16:09 kf hm
16:09 kf I don't think there is a script right now
16:10 kf but couldn't you get the xml from zebra perhaps?
16:10 jcamins kf: oh, it's easy enough to do.
16:10 jcamins kf: I was just checking that there wasn't a canonical way to do it.
16:11 wizzyrea you should make up the canonical way
16:11 jcamins wizzyrea: echo "SELECT marc FROM biblioitems;" | mysql -u koha -p koha | gzip -9 > ~/biblios.mrc.gz
16:11 jcamins If you're feeling really fancy, chomp the first line.
16:11 wizzyrea aren't you fancy ;)
16:12 jcamins wizzyrea: nope. Do you see any first-line-chomping happening there?
16:12 wizzyrea keke
16:12 wizzyrea fair enough smarty
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16:12 jcamins Actually, I guess I could just tell mysql to not output the header.
16:13 wizzyrea keke
16:13 wizzyrea yes
16:13 wizzyrea you could do that
16:13 jcamins -N
16:14 * kf rips apart her calendar of 2011
16:14 wizzyrea man, 4530 is going to need epic testing
16:14 wizzyrea bug 4530
16:14 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4530 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific
16:14 kf like lots of things
16:14 kf *sighs*
16:14 wizzyrea nod
16:15 kf I really want the new parameters in circ matrix
16:15 kf but a bit scared to start testing
16:15 kf perhaps we could do a test plan together liz?
16:15 wizzyrea which bug?
16:15 kf etherpad? :)
16:15 wizzyrea :) sure
16:15 kf bug 5786
16:15 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix
16:16 hdl1 kf: folowup sent.
16:16 jcamins kf: Yay!
16:16 wizzyrea ohhhh
16:16 kf ooh?
16:16 kf I want that, but not sure where to start testing
16:16 wizzyrea hmm
16:17 kf it would be such a great additon for our library with closed stacks
16:17 kf only make things available for hold there and not in general...
16:17 wizzyrea *nod*
16:17 kf available for onshelfholds... but you know...
16:17 wizzyrea well
16:17 wizzyrea that particular one
16:17 wizzyrea it looks like it wouldn't be so hard to test.
16:18 kf no, not with a plan :)
16:18 kf but I am kinda blocked on it
16:18 kf so talking with someone will help :)
16:18 wizzyrea gotya
16:18 * kf so wishes the rain would stop
16:18 wizzyrea so- create an itemtype, put some items on it
16:18 kf hdl1: thx - it's on my list!
16:18 kf yeah
16:18 kf but
16:18 hdl1 needs two patches.
16:18 kf what happens with records with items with more than one item type and different settings?
16:18 kf for example
16:19 kf and what do we want to happen
16:19 wizzyrea right, we'd test that
16:19 wizzyrea it's not bib leve itype
16:19 wizzyrea it's item level itemtype
16:19 wizzyrea but you'd have to test it both ways
16:19 wizzyrea at least, I'm assuming
16:19 wizzyrea that since the rules are per itemtype/category code
16:20 hdl1 for what it's worth, similar things have been working on multiple libraries in france for more than 1 year now.
16:20 wizzyrea give me a minute :)
16:20 hdl1 old koha adopters and new ones.
16:21 kf yep
16:21 kf item level itype / bibl level itypes - both have to be tested
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16:42 libsysguy hey can anybody tell me how to see if zebra search server is running
16:43 jcamins ps ax | grep zeb
16:43 wizzyrea oh hey libsysguy :)
16:43 libsysguy hey wizzyrea
16:43 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE!
16:43 libsysguy thanks jcamins
16:43 wizzyrea hehe
16:43 libsysguy ok so I'm getting no search results after a restart
16:43 libsysguy and it looks like the daemon is running
16:44 libsysguy after a server restart**
16:44 jcamins libsysguy: please tell me this isn't your production system?
16:44 libsysguy ugh yes
16:44 libsysguy why oh why is is always prod
16:44 libsysguy i really didn't do anything this time
16:44 jcamins Try restarting the zebra daemon?
16:44 libsysguy i just restarted it to correct a time diff on the VM and now searching is hosed :'(
16:45 jcamins sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon restart
16:45 jcamins You may have called the init script something different.
16:45 wizzyrea when you get it fixed:
16:45 libsysguy no that was it
16:45 libsysguy gracias kind sir
16:46 libsysguy wizzyrea ill have to watch that later…im waiting for Anna at the hair salon
16:46 libsysguy like a good bf
16:46 kf heh
16:46 libsysguy hmm still no results
16:46 libsysguy corrupt indexes?
16:47 jcamins Maybe.
16:47 jcamins searching faq?
16:47 wahanui well, searching faq is at[…]on/faq/searching/
16:48 jcamins That doesn't seem quite right, though. Why is *nothing* showing up?
16:48 libsysguy yeah let me double check that margo hasn't been messing with the suppression
16:48 libsysguy im actually on vacation this week
16:48 libsysguy of course it breaks
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16:49 jcamins Of course.
16:49 jcamins Why did you restart the server during a vacation?
16:49 kf jcamins: I didn't dare to ask
16:49 libsysguy haha well I kept getting complaints that it was 30 mins off
16:49 libsysguy with hourly
16:50 jcamins Ah.
16:50 libsysguy if it was suppression it would show up in staff right?
16:51 jcamins Probably, yes.
16:51 libsysguy hmm
16:51 jcamins Nothing showing up in the staff client either?
16:51 libsysguy nope
16:52 libsysguy hmm
16:52 libsysguy i feel a full reindex coming on...
16:52 jcamins Well, you could run the server on the command line, see if you're getting any errors.
16:52 libsysguy true
16:52 jcamins Might not be a bad idea.
16:52 libsysguy from misc right
16:52 jcamins But I suspect a full reindex is in order.
16:52 jcamins No, zebrasrv.
16:53 jcamins Wait. Let's go back a moment.
16:53 libsysguy ok
16:53 libsysguy stepping back
16:53 jcamins ps ax | grep zebrasrv
16:53 jcamins Any results?
16:53 libsysguy just the grep
16:53 jcamins Okay, Zebra's not running.
16:53 libsysguy 0_0
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16:53 * jcamins is lazy and always just types zeb
16:54 jcamins Didn't think to specify which task we were looking for.
16:54 libsysguy so the zebra daemon doesn't start zebra
16:54 jcamins Run: sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
16:54 libsysguy man do I feel retarded
16:55 libsysguy there must be an error
16:55 libsysguy because after I start it and re-run the grep i still only get the grep proces
16:55 wizzyrea logs>
16:55 wizzyrea that is, anything in them?
16:56 jcamins ~/koha-dev/var/logs/koha-zebradaemon*
16:56 libsysguy lots of this 20111222 10:55:56 koha-zebra-ctl.koha: client (pid 2973) exited with 1 status
16:56 libsysguy in the tail
16:56 jcamins Hm.
16:57 jcamins Which file's that in? There are a couple.
16:57 libsysguy koha-zebradaemon.err
16:57 libsysguy i haven't looked at the log yet
16:57 libsysguy but in the error log it is trying to restart every 30 seconds
16:58 libsysguy wait
16:58 libsysguy in the log it looks like there might be a merge conflict
16:58 libsysguy fml
16:59 jcamins A merge conflict?
17:00 libsysguy yeah in some xslt style sheets
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17:00 jcamins Don't see why that would have any impact.
17:01 libsysguy it is blowing up the zebra logs
17:01 jcamins An XSLT issue? Weird.
17:01 libsysguy yeah there is the dreaded line <<<<<<<origin
17:02 libsysguy yup that was it
17:02 libsysguy its working now
17:02 jcamins Yay!
17:02 libsysguy yayy indeed
17:02 libsysguy i was literally like wtf is happening
17:02 jcamins Oh, I bet it was the Zebra stylesheets?
17:03 libsysguy yeah I think so
17:03 jcamins Okay, that makes sense then.
17:03 libsysguy home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-​tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2RDFDC.xsl
17:03 libsysguy was one
17:03 jcamins I guess Zebra always parses the conversion stylesheets, even when it's not using them.
17:04 libsysguy silly zebra
17:04 libsysguy so when are we moving to solr
17:04 * wizzyrea is reminded of the devil we know vs the devil we don't
17:04 libsysguy hahaha
17:05 wizzyrea just sayin we hate zebra, but solr will have it's own beautiful quirks.
17:05 jcamins And this, folks, is why friends don't let friends work over their holidays.
17:05 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, and its own quirks, too. :P
17:05 wizzyrea go have fun with blondie ;)
17:05 libsysguy haha oh im far from done
17:05 libsysguy this was just a fire
17:05 libsysguy I'm actually migrating Illiad
17:05 libsysguy from OCLC hosting to our own server
17:06 wizzyrea you are a special kind of crazy.
17:06 libsysguy and it only runs on IIS
17:06 libsysguy fml
17:06 wizzyrea fyl indeed.
17:06 kf some devils are worse than others...
17:06 libsysguy and the kind of crazy i am is called work-a-holic
17:06 libsysguy IIS is the worst kind of devil
17:06 jcamins libsysguy: I think I'd rather *watch* my wife get her hair cut.
17:06 libsysguy hahahaha
17:06 kf isn't there a quote from rangi about fridnds not letting friends use proprietary software? ;)
17:06 jcamins There is indeed.
17:07 jcamins @quote search friends
17:07 huginn jcamins: 2 found: #115: "chris: friends don't let friends use..." and #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats"
17:07 jcamins @quote get 115
17:07 huginn jcamins: Quote #115: "chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software." (added by chris_n at 05:36 PM, January 19, 2011)
17:07 libsysguy is there a free software that works like illiad
17:07 jcamins @quote get 121
17:07 huginn jcamins: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011)
17:07 jcamins Also true.
17:07 kf both true
17:07 * jcamins gets to indulge his inner photography geek today.
17:08 * jcamins is quite looking forward to that.
17:08 libsysguy what are you doing today jcamins
17:09 jcamins libsysguy: buying an articulated arm so that I can take perfect pictures of books. :)
17:09 jcamins And probably some sort of light.
17:10 libsysguy oh oh it looks like the haircut is almost done
17:11 libsysguy i better pack up shop
17:11 libsysguy thanks for your help guys
17:11 jcamins libsysguy: so you get to set up IIS?
17:11 libsysguy you're literally the best
17:11 jcamins I recommend you ask the stylist to take longer. ;)
17:11 libsysguy yes i did
17:11 libsysguy hehe
17:11 libsysguy after a segfault in IIS
17:12 jcamins Don't merge master into your production system again until you're back from vacation.
17:12 libsysguy yeah I'm definitely not doing that
17:12 libsysguy hmm I wonder if bg is going to get hourly merged into master by the first :p
17:14 nengard libsysguy i'm testing it today
17:14 nengard once he wakes up and gives me the url
17:14 libsysguy which url?
17:14 wahanui which url are you adding them from?
17:14 wizzyrea here's our test plan for bug 5786:[…]On5C3qGmf-to/edit
17:14 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix
17:14 wizzyrea (still in progress)
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17:16 libsysguy nengard what url do you need?
17:16 nengard libsysguy he set up a test server for me to play on
17:17 libsysguy ohh
17:17 nengard but yes the goal is to get it tested before the first
17:17 libsysguy just making sure you don't need my git branch :)
17:17 nengard nope, i've seen that
17:18 libsysguy ok cool
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17:18 * jcamins heads out to do fun things like buy photography equipment.
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17:20 libsysguy so nengard we are just testing to make sure it works right…no scope creep
17:21 kf @quote search aspirin
17:21 huginn kf: 2 found: #164: "<sekjal> word of advice to folks: take an..." and #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell..."
17:21 kf @quote get 6
17:21 huginn kf: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009)
17:21 wizzyrea ^^ this
17:21 wizzyrea @quote get 164
17:21 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #164: "<sekjal> word of advice to folks: take an aspirin before reading C4/" (added by wizzyrea at 09:08 PM, November 14, 2011)
17:21 kf 2009...have been around for some time now :)
17:22 wizzyrea *nod*
17:22 wizzyrea quote 6
17:22 wizzyrea so, basically when huginn/munin was born
17:22 kf @quote get
17:22 huginn kf: (quote get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the quote with id <id> from the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
17:22 kf @quote get 1
17:22 huginn kf: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009)
17:22 kf @quote get 2
17:22 huginn kf: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009)
17:22 wizzyrea @quote get 3
17:22 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009)
17:22 wizzyrea @quote get 4
17:23 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;)" (added by chris at 12:50 PM, June 12, 2009)
17:23 wizzyrea ^^ lol
17:23 wizzyrea @quote get 5
17:23 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009)
17:23 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
17:23 wizzyrea @quote get 7
17:23 kf @quote get 7
17:23 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009)
17:23 huginn kf: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009)
17:23 wizzyrea hehe
17:23 kf @quote get 8
17:23 huginn kf: Quote #8: "< wizzyrea> in my experience the transition to koha is much harder for libraries that are already automated" (added by pianohacker at 05:57 PM, June 19, 2009)
17:23 kf let's do the top ten and get back to work :P
17:23 wizzyrea still true
17:24 kf yes
17:24 wizzyrea @quote get 9
17:24 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 08:23 PM, June 19, 2009)
17:24 kf @qoute get 9
17:24 huginn kf: downloading the Perl source
17:24 kf although I had 2 tickets this year from the library we migrated from horizon
17:24 kf and they did the most checkouts of all
17:24 wizzyrea hey, that's pretty great.
17:24 kf yep :)
17:24 wizzyrea @quote get 10
17:24 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 07:59 PM, June 23, 2009)
17:24 wizzyrea hehehehe
17:24 kf oh
17:24 kf I like that one
17:25 wizzyrea alright back to work lol
17:25 * wizzyrea cracks the whip
17:26 libsysguy later #koha
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17:26 wizzyrea anybody else really miss oleonard?
17:26 * wizzyrea does
17:27 wizzyrea I could go for a dose of his biting wit about now
17:27 kf oh
17:28 kf christmas vacation?
17:28 wizzyrea yea
17:32 kf have to go :)
17:32 kf bbiab
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18:10 cait back :)
18:16 cait hm
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18:26 rangi Morning
18:32 cait morning rangi :)
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18:43 mgr86 hello koha community, I had a support question. I found the answer in the doucmentation FAQ
18:43 mgr86 but it was missing one important part
18:43 mgr86[…]lingupgrading/#26
18:44 mgr86 essetnailly the question was "Question: I added some books for testing, now I’m done testing but I want to delete all of my test items and bibs and start fresh. How do I do it?"
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18:44 mgr86 it instructed me to truncate biblio table, which I had already done before finding the doucmentation, but it also instructed to me clear the indexes
18:45 mgr86 which is exactly what I was trying to do when I found the documentation
18:45 mgr86 however, the documentation is incomplete
18:45 mgr86 it reads "... To clear the indexes issue:  at your shell prompt."
18:45 mgr86 so, I am not sure what command to call
18:46 jwagner mgr86, if you've truncated biblio, biblioitems, and items tables, you should just be able to run a zebra reindex which will clear the indexes.
18:56 maximep or u can probably run "zebraidx -c /path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg drop biblios"
18:57 maximep and same for authorities
19:12 rangi yo people
19:12 rangi bug 7339
19:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error
19:12 rangi and bug 6627
19:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6627 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , [security] insecure file creation
19:12 rangi could do with a sign off
19:13 jcamins_away rangi: didn't I see a sign off on bug 6627 yesterday?
19:13 mgr86 why is zebra-biblios.cfg commonly located?
19:14 jcamins_away mgr86: if you mean "where," if you have a standard install it's probably at /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
19:14 jcamins_away If dev install, ~/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
19:15 rangi if you are using the debian packages, theres one for each koha instance
19:15 jcamins_away In which case it would be at /etc/koha/sites/[instance]​/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
19:16 jcamins_away I believe.
19:18 mgr86 thanks, when doing the same for authorities do I need to issues drop authorities or still drop biblios?
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19:21 maximep i think u do zebra-authorities-dom.cfg -d authorities
19:29 rangi @quote random
19:29 huginn rangi: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011)
19:29 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
19:31 trea-lunch is now known as trea
19:43 jcamins_away @later tell sekjal When you get a chance could respond to Bug 7377 with the jQuery from GoodwillAZ? Thanks.
19:43 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
19:46 jcamins_away trea: unless you have the lexile jQuery from Goodwill AZ, in which case I hereby delegate that to you. :)
19:46 trea good luck to you on that
19:47 jcamins_away trea: you mean you won't be delegated to?
19:47 jcamins_away Since sekjal's on vacation, looks like he's still tagged, then. ;)
19:47 trea i mean he's still tagged
19:47 trea and i'm plenty busy, thx
19:47 jcamins_away trea: that'd be pretty easy, if you had the jQuery handy.
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19:56 small SomeBody Help me?
19:56 small I need help installing koha 3.3
19:56 small I need help installing koha 3.6
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19:57 small Anybody
19:57 small no...?
19:57 wahanui it has been said that no is failing unit tests
19:57 small Ok there wahanui
19:58 jcamins_away small: what's the problem you're facing?
19:58 small left #koha
19:59 jcamins_away ... nice chat. Any time.
19:59 ibeardslee 3 minutes?
20:00 jcamins_away ibeardslee: time seems to stretch on forever when your production server is lying in a smoldering heap on the floor.
20:01 jcamins_away It's like that Andrew Lloyd Weber song, "MARC changes everything."
20:01 ibeardslee true, but asking for help installing is surely a dev server rather than a prod server?
20:01 jcamins_away I would think.
20:02 * jcamins_away thinks he's chosen the wrong channel for misquoting musical theatre.
20:02 * wizzyrea laughs at jcamins
20:03 * jcamins_away was going for "with," but he'll take it. ;)
20:08 wizzyrea well with is what I think I meant
20:08 wizzyrea is this up to date re: database updates?
20:08 wizzyrea[…]n_a_pushed_branch
20:09 * wizzyrea suspects not
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20:10 cait it still is
20:10 cait the new system is not in yet
20:11 cait and I am still not sure it's an improvement
20:11 cait nah, more sure it will only complicate things
20:11 * jcamins_away is sure the new system is better, but increasingly doesn't care. ;)
20:11 wizzyrea wow
20:12 wizzyrea pre holiday and vacation angst?
20:12 wizzyrea or genuine?
20:12 jcamins_away No, I genuinely increasingly don't care whether the decisions I think are better are made or not.
20:13 wizzyrea oh I see.
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20:15 jcamins_away I would just like decisions to be made.
20:15 jcamins_away Do I think it would be an improvement? Yes. Do I think it would as much of an improvement as not talking about it and holding up enhancements would be? No.
20:15 jcamins_away So, there you have it. I think it would be better, but my idealism is not strong enough to override my pragmatism. ;)
20:21 cait yeah
20:21 cait holding up everything is the bad part
20:21 cait make it go in
20:21 cait and let us live with it and move things
20:21 cait forward
20:42 rhcl_ishere \nick jcamins_comeback
20:43 rhcl_ishere ping jcamins_away
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20:43 jcamins_away rhcl_ishere: I'm only kind of here.
20:55 rhcl_ishere OK, we finished the install of Ubuntu 11.1 on the computer, let me know when you want to talk about it
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21:27 maximep arg -_-
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21:44 mib_upvxs5 Anybody here?
21:44 mib_upvxs5 i need some help installing some packages
21:44 mib_upvxs5 "modules"
21:45 wizzyrea pretty quiet around here, but you can go ahead and ask
21:45 mib_upvxs5 ok
21:45 mib_upvxs5 it is these files,
21:45 mib_upvxs5 Graphics::Magick
21:45 wahanui rumour has it Graphics::Magick is probably used for labels
21:45 mib_upvxs5 Net::Z3950::ZOOM
21:45 mib_upvxs5 PDF::API2::Simple
21:46 mib_upvxs5 XML::LibXSLT
21:46 mib_upvxs5 That is it
21:46 mib_upvxs5 They all error on install
21:46 wizzyrea error how?
21:46 cait and which os?
21:46 wahanui which os are you using?
21:47 mib_upvxs5 ubuntu 10.04
21:47 mib_upvxs5 for this one, PDF::API2::Simple
21:47 mib_upvxs5 the error is
21:47 mib_upvxs5 an't locate inc/Module/ in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at Makefile.PL line 1.
21:47 cait what have you tried to do?
21:47 mib_upvxs5 sudo cpan PDF::API2::Simple
21:48 wizzyrea[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
21:48 wizzyrea have you consulted this?
21:48 mib_upvxs5 No
21:48 wizzyrea are you just trying to get a koha install?
21:48 cait mib_upvxs5: you should use packages from your distribution whenever possible
21:48 wizzyrea ^^
21:48 mib_upvxs5 I am trying to install koha
21:49 mib_upvxs5 I tried that and i couldnt get it to work
21:49 cait and for ubuntu it's possible :)
21:49 mib_upvxs5 ok
21:49 wizzyrea you probably need to follow the instructions at[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
21:49 mib_upvxs5 Ok
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21:54 mib_upvxs5 i am fallowing that link you gave me and when i run
21:54 mib_upvxs5 # sudo apt-get install zip unzip lamp-server^ yaz idzebra-2.0 dselect unp openjdk-6-jre
21:54 mib_upvxs5 it says there is broken dependancies
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21:55 wizzyrea what is the error message?
21:55 wahanui hmmm... the error message is correct because that's not how you're supposed to run it
21:55 wizzyrea forget the error message
21:55 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot error message
21:55 mib_upvxs5 haha
21:55 mib_upvxs5 Umm, just a sec
21:56 mib_upvxs5 The following packages have unmet dependencies:   idzebra-2.0: Depends: idzebra-2.0-utils (= 2.0.50-1indexdata) but it is not going to be installed                Depends: libidzebra-2.0-modules but it is not going to be installed   yaz: Depends: libncurses5 (>= 5.7+20100313) but 5.7+20090803-2ubuntu3 is to be installed        Depends: libyaz4 (>= 4.2.22) but
21:56 mib_upvxs5 it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
21:56 wizzyrea oh sec - there's another linkk
21:57 wizzyrea thatsorry this one might be less dumb:[…]ing_Koha_packages
21:57 wizzyrea ^^ this will be easier, not harder.
21:57 mib_upvxs5 OK, thanks :)
21:58 wizzyrea but you still may run into the dependencies thing. But maybe not.
21:58 wizzyrea is this a clean system, i.e. is it possible to reinstall and start over?
21:59 wizzyrea (not that you'd want to take that option)
22:00 mib_upvxs5 Yes it is a "Clean system"
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22:15 mib_upvxs5 i fallowed the instructions on the new link and it works, but when i go to :8080 it errors
22:15 wizzyrea what is the error message?
22:16 mib_upvxs5 XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: jar:file:///usr/lib/firefox-3.6.24/chrome/​toolkit.jar!/content/global/netError.xhtml Line Number 60, Column 12:    <title>&loadError.label;</title> -----------^
22:16 wizzyrea wow I cannot say I've seen that one before.
22:16 mib_upvxs5 :(
22:16 mib_upvxs5 There was no errors on install
22:17 mib_upvxs5 The only error i can see it
22:17 mib_upvxs5 The only error i can see is
22:17 maximep is there something wrong in the source ?
22:17 mib_upvxs5 pache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using for ServerName [Thu Dec 22 14:13:45 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
22:17 wizzyrea that doesn't look like a koha error at all.
22:17 maximep anything in the koha error log ?
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22:19 mib_7f62rm Sorry
22:19 mib_7f62rm My VNC connection broke
22:19 mib_7f62rm What were you saying?
22:19 maximep asking if theres anything in the koha error log
22:19 mib_7f62rm Where is that?
22:19 wahanui that is a good goal
22:19 maximep /var/log/koha something
22:20 mib_7f62rm ok
22:20 mib_7f62rm i'll look
22:21 wizzyrea /var/log/koha/koha-error_log
22:22 mib_7f62rm there is nothing in the folder /var/log/koha
22:23 mib_7f62rm Hello?
22:23 wizzyrea I can't say I've seen that error before
22:23 wizzyrea can you connect to other websites from this machine?
22:23 mib_7f62rm Yes
22:24 mib_7f62rm I am on here from that machine :)
22:25 wizzyrea that error you posted really looks like a problem with firefox to me
22:26 mib_7f62rm Oh
22:26 mib_7f62rm What else can i try?
22:26 wizzyrea well firefox is at least version 8 now
22:26 mib_7f62rm i have that
22:26 mib_7f62rm i think, well, i should
22:26 mib_7f62rm Anyway
22:26 mib_7f62rm FYI
22:27 mib_7f62rm I just tried to go to my domain on my laptop
22:27 mib_7f62rm It works, but if i goto port 8080 it says
22:27 mib_7f62rm Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.XXX:8080.
22:27 wizzyrea ok, did you tell apache to listen on port 8080?
22:28 mib_7f62rm ummm, probs not, 'cause i dont know how ;)
22:28 mib_7f62rm hows do i do that?
22:28 wizzyrea Add the following lines to /etc/apache2/ports.conf:
22:28 wizzyrea 183
22:28 wizzyrea 184     Listen 80
22:28 wizzyrea 185     Listen 8080
22:28 wizzyrea urg
22:29 wizzyrea Add the following lines to /etc/apache2/ports.conf:
22:29 wizzyrea Listen 80
22:29 wizzyrea Listen 8080
22:29 wizzyrea there
22:29 mib_7f62rm ok
22:29 wizzyrea If not running named virtual hosts (The default koha installation does not use
22:29 wizzyrea named virtual hosts.), comment out the following line:
22:29 wizzyrea NameVirtualHost *:80
22:29 wizzyrea but, try the other first
22:29 mib_7f62rm ok
22:30 wizzyrea after you add the listening ports
22:30 wizzyrea apache2ctl restart
22:30 wizzyrea to restart apache
22:31 mib_7f62rm What is the line to restart it again, i forgot :/
22:31 wizzyrea apache2ctl restart
22:31 mib_7f62rm oh
22:31 wizzyrea sudo, prolly
22:31 mib_7f62rm haha, oops
22:31 wizzyrea sudo apache2ctl restart
22:32 wizzyrea any luck now?
22:32 mib_7f62rm says the url is not found at port 8080, it is also a 404 on the main page :/
22:32 wizzyrea but
22:32 wizzyrea that means it's listening
22:32 wizzyrea it's at least answering now
22:32 mib_7f62rm Yes
22:32 wizzyrea so that's progress.
22:32 mib_7f62rm But it 404'd my homepage
22:33 wizzyrea adding listen 8080 404'd your homepage?
22:33 mib_7f62rm Yes
22:33 mib_7f62rm It says 404 when i go to my domain noe
22:33 mib_7f62rm It says 404 when i go to my domain now
22:34 mib_7f62rm Or, maybe
22:34 wizzyrea did you get rid of listen 80?
22:35 mib_7f62rm Well, i dont have a webpage set up, it just says 404 now instead of the default Apache page, nope, there is still listen 80 and 8080 there
22:35 wizzyrea ok that's actually good.
22:35 mib_7f62rm Did you want A wireless desktop connection?
22:35 mib_7f62rm Oh
22:35 mib_7f62rm Would that help ^^^
22:35 wizzyrea so, go into /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
22:35 mib_7f62rm Ok
22:35 wizzyrea you should see a koha in there
22:36 mib_7f62rm Nope
22:36 wizzyrea ok
22:36 mib_7f62rm No koha, there is nothing
22:36 wizzyrea then go to /etc/apache2/sites-available
22:36 mib_7f62rm ok
22:36 wizzyrea is there a koha in there?
22:37 mib_7f62rm Nope
22:37 mib_7f62rm :/
22:37 mib_7f62rm Not good?
22:37 wizzyrea and you did sudo apt-get install koha-common
22:37 mib_7f62rm Yes
22:37 mib_7f62rm it took 10min to do that
22:37 wizzyrea and it did not error?
22:37 mib_7f62rm nope
22:38 mib_7f62rm not that i see
22:38 mib_7f62rm Should i do that again?
22:39 wizzyrea try a dpkg -l koha-common
22:39 mib_7f62rm ok
22:39 wizzyrea does it show it as installed?
22:39 mib_7f62rm just a sec
22:39 mib_7f62rm is that  a 'l' or 'i' ?
22:39 mib_7f62rm ah, l
22:40 wizzyrea lower case L
22:40 mib_7f62rm ok
22:40 mib_7f62rm Yes
22:40 mib_7f62rm It shows installed, as far as i can see
22:41 mib_7f62rm it says,
22:42 mib_7f62rm Name - Koha-Common    Version - 3.7   Description -- Blah blah blaa ;)
22:42 mib_7f62rm Are you there?
22:43 wizzyrea are you impatient?
22:43 wizzyrea ;)
22:43 mib_7f62rm very :p
22:43 maximep good luck =)
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22:43 mib_7f62rm Or, i'll be back in 5, give you time to think :)
22:43 wizzyrea do you have anything in  /etc/koha
22:44 mib_7f62rm umm
22:44 mib_7f62rm i'll look
22:44 mib_7f62rm Yes
22:44 wizzyrea what's in there
22:44 mib_7f62rm lots of folders and files, you want a list?
22:44 wizzyrea nah
22:44 mib_7f62rm k
22:44 wizzyrea do you have a koha-sites.conf?
22:45 wizzyrea in /etc/koha
22:46 mib_7f62rm nope
22:46 wizzyrea then again I have a working one on ubuntu, and I don't have that so that may not be it
22:47 mib_7f62rm there is an
22:47 wizzyrea yea, naw
22:47 mib_7f62rm
22:47 wizzyrea what usually happens
22:47 wizzyrea is there is a symlink in sites-available that points to /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf
22:47 mib_7f62rm oh
22:48 mib_7f62rm thats not there
22:48 wizzyrea and the installer *usually* goes ahead and a2ensite koha for you
22:48 wizzyrea which puts it in sites-enabled
22:48 mib_7f62rm oh
22:48 wizzyrea this is my concern - why didnt it happen....
22:48 mib_7f62rm But it didn't
22:48 mib_7f62rm :o
22:49 mib_7f62rm so you have no idea then
22:49 wizzyrea what does tail /var/log/apt/history.log tell you
22:49 mib_7f62rm ill look
22:50 mib_7f62rm It tells me alot ....
22:50 wizzyrea ok, you're looking for errors related to koha
22:51 mib_7f62rm ok
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22:51 mib_7f62rm Will it say :error: or something that i can search for?
22:51 wizzyrea i'm not really sure - you can always search for koha
22:51 mib_7f62rm The log ennded december 20th, its the 22nd ....
22:52 mib_7f62rm i installed koha 30min ago
22:52 mib_7f62rm oh
22:52 mib_7f62rm never mind
22:52 mib_7f62rm i see it
22:53 wizzyrea you can also tail /var/log/dpkg.log there might be stuff in there.
22:53 mib_7f62rm It says koha common was installed
22:53 mib_7f62rm and kohadev1 and kohadev2, thats it
22:53 mib_7f62rm and then all the pther packages
22:53 mib_7f62rm and then all the other packages i installed for koha
22:53 wizzyrea did any of them fail?
22:54 wizzyrea besides the ones you originally had issues with?
22:54 mib_7f62rm Nope
22:54 * magnus_afk wishes #koha a good time of the day
22:54 magnus_afk is now known as magnus_away
22:54 * wizzyrea is going to have to do that soon too
22:54 wizzyrea gotta fetch the kiddo
22:55 mib_7f62rm ok
22:55 mib_7f62rm hmmm
22:55 wizzyrea hm that's a bit of a stumper - i'm not sure why the symlink never got made
22:55 wizzyrea you could try making it
22:55 wizzyrea by hand
22:55 mib_7f62rm lol, How?
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22:57 mib_7f62rm Hmm, i''' just come back tomorrow ....
22:57 mib_7f62rm Or ill look at the log
22:57 mib_7f62rm see if anyone talked about it
22:57 mib_7f62rm I'm going to go
22:57 wizzyrea ln -s /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha
22:57 mib_7f62rm Thanks for your help
22:57 * wizzyrea has to go anyway
22:57 mib_7f62rm ok
22:58 wizzyrea gl though
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22:58 mib_7f62rm So what do i do with those paths?
22:58 mib_7f62rm Thanks
22:58 mib_7f62rm Or not
22:58 mib_7f62rm :p
23:11 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.6.2 & 3.4.7 & 3.2.11 are now available ; Next General IRC Meeting 4 January 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0  | |
23:11 chris_n Merry Christmas #koha
23:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #26 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:26 chris_n and Happy New Year
23:27 * chris_n heads out for a week or so
23:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #26: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/26/
23:55 jenkins_koha * f.demians: 3.6.2 Translation Update
23:55 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 22 Dec 2011 22:53:23 Z
23:55 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to

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