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03:38 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5786] Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786>
03:38 Oak kia ora #koha
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03:45 Oak hello AmitG :)
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04:45 Oak Good Morning cait :)
04:45 cait good morning Oak :)
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05:47 Oak @wunder Konstanz
05:47 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7�C (6:44 AM CET on December 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady).
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05:50 yhager I've had a crash on my server (out of disk space), but I've recovered. I had mysql binary log running, so I don't expect any data to be lost, however, I can't find any book records, only biblio entries.. is that a database corruption, or something I can fix?
05:58 cait yhager: perhaps your zebra indexes are not ok?
05:58 cait have you tried to reindex?
05:58 cait and what do you mean by book entries vs. bilbio entries?
05:58 yhager cait: i tried rebuild_zebra -r -b -a
05:58 cait hm
05:59 yhager I can see the biblio entries for the book, but not our library copy information
05:59 cait so search works but you don't see the item information?
05:59 cait have you updated your koha version?
05:59 cait recently I mean?
06:00 yhager yes, search through the staff port works, but search through opac does not, since there are no book records (copies)
06:00 yhager no, it's 3.4.2
06:00 cait yhager I am not sure about the terms you use
06:00 cait how does search from staff work?
06:00 yhager cait, ok, sorry, I'm not a librarian, but I do the technical work.
06:00 cait what exactly works in staff that does not work in opac?
06:01 yhager in staff, I click on cataloging, then enter a book name in the search box
06:02 yhager I then get the text: No results found, and underneath "Biblios in reservoid", and a list of a few biblios for the book
06:02 yhager when I search the same string on opac (i.e. the general user interface), nothing comes up
06:02 yhager hope I'm clearer now..
06:03 rangi oh
06:03 yhager I'm not sure if the records are there, but are not shown (not indexed), or simply gone..
06:03 rangi thats definitely indexes or corruption
06:03 rangi the reservior is not the catalogue
06:04 rangi its a separate table
06:04 rangi run your rebuild with -v
06:04 yhager I can check the db directly if that helps
06:04 yhager okay
06:04 rangi my bet is it is erroring
06:04 yhager rebuild_zebra -a -b -r?
06:04 yhager and -v
06:04 rangi just do -b for now, not -a
06:05 yhager okay, running
06:05 rangi so -b -r -v
06:05 rangi is it exporting records?
06:05 yhager yes..
06:05 rangi also check zebrasrv is running
06:05 rangi so db is probably ok, if its exporting
06:06 yhager rangi: aha!
06:06 yhager that's what happens when you reboot the server once every 120 days.. you forget simple things..
06:07 * rangi has to put his sons to bed bbiab
06:08 yhager sorry, how do I run zebrasrv?
06:15 yhager yay! that did it. cait, rangi: thanks, and sorry for the trivial issue
06:15 cait oh sorry :( my chat client didn't 'blink' - missed that you answered
06:15 Oak rangi++
06:15 Oak cait++
06:16 yhager cait: no worries, rangi took over and solved it
06:16 cait yeah, he does that
06:16 cait :)
06:16 cait rangi++
06:16 yhager you guys are awesome.. now I need to find some time and upgrade my koha arch package
06:17 yhager got into some kind of perl package mess there... but I'll figure it out eventually
06:18 cait arch?
06:21 yhager archlinux
06:24 yhager
06:24 cait ah
06:24 cait thx :)
06:25 yhager wow... you guys are releasing fast.. already 3.6..
06:26 rangi back
06:26 rangi feature release every 6 months
06:26 rangi 3.8 in april
06:26 rangi and monthly maintenance releases
06:26 rangi so we are at 3.6
06:27 rangi 3.6.1 and 3.4.7
06:27 yhager phew.. that's a lot of upgrades :)
06:27 yhager I guess I'll stick with 3.4 for a while.. I'm not in a hurry for new features, and we are still catalouging anyway
06:27 rangi its easy with the packages, and not much harder without
06:27 rangi you should upgrade to 3.4.7
06:28 rangi its a security release
06:28 yhager well, yeah, but I'm maintaining the package too, and all the perl dependencies are not easy.
06:28 yhager Yes, I plan to upgrade to 3.4.7 soon (read: when I have some time)
06:28 rangi bug 6289
06:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Return table could show reserve/transit data for returned items
06:28 rangi hm nope
06:28 rangi bug 6829
06:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6829 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---,, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove two warnings for opac-MARCdetail
06:29 rangi @query security
06:29 huginn rangi: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5131 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , XSS vulnerability in the OPAC search results interface
06:29 huginn rangi: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6913 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , Improving koha-list and koha-create
06:29 huginn rangi: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4221 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, sophie.meynieux, NEW , defaultSortField & OPACdefaultSortField non functioning
06:29 huginn rangi: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1993 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
06:29 huginn rangi: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , opac/ security leaky
06:30 rangi nope none of those :)
06:30 rangi have a look at the release notes and apply the patches if you dont have time to upgrade
06:31 yhager Since I maintain the package I don't have that privilege. I need to build a new package and publish it, and only then install it and upgrade my own install. Otherwise I'll never fix the package :)
06:32 rangi ahh well its directory traversal, so well worth patching
06:40 magnus_away is down?
06:41 rangi yes
06:41 rangi and
06:41 rangi I think
06:43 rangi looks like server outage
06:46 cait oh wow
06:46 cait morning magnuse :)
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07:18 magnuse kia ora rangi cait and #koha!
07:19 rangi
07:19 rangi up to 1150 now!
07:20 magnuse yay
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07:30 magnuse 1175 now ;-)
07:30 rangi yay!
07:32 cait :)
07:33 alex_a1 morning cait, rangi and magnuse
07:33 rangi hey alex_a1
07:33 cait hi alex_a1
07:33 magnuse bonjour alex_a1
07:33 cait problems with your servers?
07:33 alex_a1 alex_a1 ?
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07:33 rangi
07:34 magnuse works for me now
07:34 rangi im still getting nothing
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07:34 rangi for too
07:34 magnuse ah does not work, but does
07:35 magnuse (redirects to
07:35 magnuse lists... does not work
07:36 cait yeah
07:36 cait and I made lots of bug changes today :(
07:36 cait biblibre not working for me
07:36 magnuse cait++
07:37 cait checking if patches still apply
07:37 cait so people will not be too hapyp
07:37 magnuse they should! ;-)
07:37 cait but this way we are down to 54 in the sign off queue now
07:37 cait and I am not done
07:38 cait sorting by changed date last patch I did is 7186
07:41 cait ok, 53
07:41 cait time to go :)
07:41 Oak later cait :)
07:41 Oak cait++
07:41 Oak magnuse
07:42 Oak good read:[…]h-about-violence/
07:43 magnuse Oak
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07:59 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5788] Move ReservesMaxPickupDelay system preference to the Circulation Matrix. <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5788>
08:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6489] cancelling hold from holds awaiting pickup does not trigger transit <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6489>
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08:15 magnuse fredericd around?
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08:16 kf hi again #koha
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08:16 kf hi sophie_m
08:16 sophie_m Guten Morgen kf
08:17 Oak wb kf
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08:21 kf good morning biblibre
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08:41 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7090] Add "AllowItemsOnHandCheckout" syspref to allow issue to the patron regardless of hold status <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7090>
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09:55 AmitG heya gaetan
09:55 AmitG heya kf
09:56 kf hi AmitG
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10:04 kf magnuse++ :)
10:05 magnuse ?
10:05 kf for your fast mailing list reply
10:06 magnuse :-)
10:06 magnuse anything to get a little break from translating...
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10:06 kf lol
10:12 mtj has anyone checked out ?
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10:13 rangi yeah its cool :)
10:13 mtj i would really like to pinch its page layout for a new Koha OPAC design :)
10:14 mtj ... its nice and clean (and looks just a little like
10:16 mtj
10:16 mtj
10:16 mtj .
10:17 rangi yep, thats old
10:17 mtj if you squinted just a bit... the layout looks OPAC-ish??
10:17 rangi mike mylonas did that bundle
10:18 mtj yep, just an random example page, there...
10:18 * rangi heads for bed
10:19 mtj good call, cya chris
10:19 kf night chris
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10:33 magnuse ooh, trailer for the hobbit...
10:37 kf hi sijobl
10:48 gaetan_B hi there, i'm trying to set up git bz to test and sign off patches, but i get a KeyError: 'auth-user' all the time (and i've triple checked my login / password) someone has an idea ?
10:49 kf hm
10:49 kf I don't use the login details in git bz because I have my dev install on the same machine with the browser
10:49 kf so the cookie works
10:49 kf did you follow the instructions on the wiki?
10:50 gaetan_B yep, i'll try removing the lines with my login and password and see if it works with the cookies
10:51 kf worth a try if that is an option for you
10:51 gaetan_B nah same thing... what kind of message are you supposed to get normally when you do git bz apply XXXX ?
10:51 kf it will ask if you want to apply patch xy
10:51 kf and ofer you a y/n
10:51 gaetan_B :-/
10:52 kf and you are logged into bugzilla?
10:52 gaetan_B definitely not working here, that's what i get:
10:52 gaetan_B Traceback (most recent call last):
10:52 gaetan_B File "/usr/local/bin/git-bz", line 2196, in <module>
10:52 gaetan_B do_apply(*args)
10:52 gaetan_B File "/usr/local/bin/git-bz", line 1484, in do_apply
10:52 gaetan_B bug = Bug.load(BugHandle.parse_or_die(bug_reference),
10:52 gaetan_B File "/usr/local/bin/git-bz", line 466, in parse_or_die
10:52 gaetan_B return BugHandle.parse(str)
10:52 gaetan_B File "/usr/local/bin/git-bz", line 455, in parse
10:52 gaetan_B auth_user = tracker_get_auth_user(tracker)
10:52 gaetan_B File "/usr/local/bin/git-bz", line 353, in tracker_get_auth_user
10:52 gaetan_B return config['auth-user']
10:52 gaetan_B KeyError: 'auth-user'
10:52 kf hmm
10:52 gaetan_B yes i am logged in bugzilla
10:52 kf I didn't use slef's version of git bz
10:53 kf so not sure what's going wrong here
10:53 kf perhaps someone else has an idea?
10:53 kf magnuse?
10:54 gaetan_B you mean there's another version around that i should rather use ?
10:54 magnuse i don't remember which version i used...
10:54 magnuse but i did put my login/password in a file
10:55 kf gaetan_B: do you have your own koha for testing? an installation I mean or accessing one on another server?
10:55 kf hm
10:55 gaetan_B it's a local installation on my computer
10:55 kf ok
10:57 kf I am not sure what's going wrong there
10:57 * magnuse neither
10:57 kf did you check that they show up correclty?
10:57 kf the global variables?
10:58 gaetan_B i checked my .gitconfig files, and the information was in there
10:58 kf ah ok
10:59 kf does your password contain weird characters
10:59 kf ?
11:00 kf I normally do something like git config --list --global to check things are all right
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11:02 gaetan_B nothing weird in my password, but i cloned it from
11:02 gaetan_B maybe i missed something that is in the slef version
11:03 kf oh
11:03 kf that's the problem then
11:03 kf perhaps
11:03 kf that doesn ot work for our bugzilla
11:03 kf first rangi fixed something,then slef
11:03 * gaetan_B is starting over with slef's version
11:03 kf clone from the repo here:
11:03 kf[…]_bz_configuration
11:06 gaetan_B working :)
11:07 magnuse yay
11:08 kf yay :)
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11:25 Amitm Hi
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11:35 magnuse is there a difference between "Replacement Price" and "Replacement cost"?
11:37 AmitG heya magnuse
11:43 magnuse hiya AmitG
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11:55 hdl1 magnuse: Nope.
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12:30 kf magnus_afk: I think not... but who knows?
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12:40 bigbrovar am working on moving a library to koha from manual paper records.. finding that tellico and alexandra seems to be very valuable tools for doing such. anyone has general tips that might also help ?
12:48 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536>
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13:03 kf hi nengard
13:03 kf how are you?
13:03 nengard hello
13:03 nengard doing okay
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13:08 kf nengard: good to hear
13:08 kf ready for xmas holidays? :)
13:08 nengard not at all
13:08 nengard didn't put the tree up
13:08 nengard and don't think we can before xmas now
13:08 nengard and dont' know if really want to get in the car to visit people ...
13:09 jcamins_away nengard: didn't I give you a table mapping CCL prefixes to MARC21?
13:09 nengard jcamins - you gave me this (I think) http://manual.koha-community.o[…]l#searchguide-ccl
13:09 nengard oh wait
13:09 nengard this: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html
13:10 jcamins_away Yeah.
13:10 jcamins_away Of course, it's no longer accurate.
13:10 nengard k - but i need to turn that in to english  -  it says 041 ln - well ln means nothing to the librarian reading the manual
13:10 nengard so maybe I need to go through this and fix it
13:10 nengard so that it's readable to a regular librarian
13:10 jcamins_away Good idea.
13:11 kf nengard: understandable
13:11 nengard jcamins is there an updated version of this in place somewhere?
13:11 jcamins_away nengard: nope.
13:11 nengard k
13:11 jcamins_away nengard: tell sekjal that DOM indexing should use some sort of literate programming technique, so that it's easier to keep the manual synced.
13:12 jcamins_away nengard: I mean, other than etc/zebrdb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs.
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13:21 mbalmer new SQL code should be useable on PostgreSQL as well, imo.
13:21 mbalmer and hi, btw ;)
13:27 tcohen why is it that GetMarcBiblio and GetXmlBiblio have different APIs?
13:27 tcohen does MARCXML always has items embedded?
13:30 kf tcohen: no idea
13:32 tcohen oh
13:32 tcohen we r extracting marc and dumping as marcxml using  as_xml ...
13:32 tcohen that's dissappointing
13:32 tcohen !
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13:38 jcamins_away tcohen: that seems like a bad idea.
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13:41 tcohen jcamins_away: yeap
13:43 tcohen i'll leave it like that
13:43 tcohen as i don't have enough time today to code on GetXmlBiblio to make it embedd the items
13:44 jcamins_away Makes sense.
13:45 * jcamins_away heads into the city.
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13:55 magnuse thanks hdl1 and kf - i was just curious...
13:56 kf sadly the names of fields in acq are not very consistent
13:56 kf it requires some cleanup
13:57 magnuse yup, translating has revealed lots of potential for cleanup ;-)
13:58 magnuse my favourite: two word strings that only differ in the case of the first letter of the second word
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13:59 magnuse e.g. "Refine Results" and "Refine results"
14:00 kf yep
14:00 kf things like that
14:00 kf or an additonal blank
14:00 magnuse yup, lots of those
14:00 magnuse and the same string with and without colon
14:01 magnuse (that might be harder to do something about, not sure)
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14:05 magnuse kia ora sekjal!
14:05 sekjal good morning, magnuse!
14:20 magnuse sekjal++ for bug 7372
14:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ian.walls, NEW , RoadTypes should be folded into Authorised Values
14:21 sekjal magnuse:  personal project of mine, unless someone can explain a reason why the separate table is necessary.
14:22 sekjal the code is set up to handle more than a single column in the table... so perhaps it's for extensibility?
14:22 magnuse i never even understood why you'd want a list of roadtypes...
14:23 sekjal in the US, the type of road (road, street, boulevard, etc) doesn't really mean anything that I'm aware of
14:24 sekjal perhaps that's different in other parts of the world
14:24 sekjal and statistical analysis is required?
14:25 magnuse beats me!
14:26 mbalmer It's a bit frustrating to work on PostgreSQL support when at the same time others continue to propose or commit SQL code that is full of MySQLisms without any need for them….
14:27 sekjal mbalmer: understandably so.
14:27 sekjal are you doing the translation work manually, or are there scripts you can run to do a lot of the basic replacements automatically?
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14:28 hdl1 sekjal: doesnot mean anything in France too...
14:30 mbalmer sekjal, if you talked to me:  I do it manually.
14:30 mbalmer since it is not always a 1:1 story.
14:31 sekjal mbalmer:  I'm sure there are plenty of cases where things need to be done by hand.  but some stuff could surely be scripted out?
14:31 sekjal that would also give us a more consistent and easily tested patch
14:31 mbalmer some simple cases, yes.
14:32 mbalmer but it will need some additional code anyway.  some of the SQL must be generated, to deliver either a MySQL or a PostgreSQL form.
14:32 mbalmer like e.g. calculating date differences
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14:50 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "looking for some help with a report (maybe kf or jcamins is around to help)" (33 lines) at
14:52 kf hm
14:52 kf I have no idea what you want to do with the rank
14:53 kf but having the additional ands behind the group by and having seems wrong
14:53 kf is it save to attach an item that is checkout out to another biblio?
14:54 * wizzyrea has never tried but I'd guess so
14:54 kf we have a duplicate record here that I want to repair
14:54 kf hmmm
14:54 * wizzyrea will try it quickly
14:54 wizzyrea on test data ;)
14:54 kf thx
14:54 kf :)
14:54 kf of course we are not using a current stable release... but will be some indicator :)
14:54 wizzyrea right
14:57 wizzyrea no, I don't see any anomalies
14:57 kf yeay :)
14:57 wizzyrea I don't believe it moves holds
14:57 kf ok, I am going to recommend doing this then... :)
14:57 kf that's ok
14:57 wizzyrea you would have to do that manually.
14:57 kf it's only an item that got attached to the ebook instead of the print boook...
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14:57 wizzyrea but I think all it really does is change the bib# associated with the item
14:58 kf no holds
14:58 kf hm yes
14:58 kf but must change the link in issues too
14:58 kf could you check if it did that?
14:58 wizzyrea yep
14:58 wizzyrea well it has to have, because it says "checked out to henry"
14:58 kf hm
14:58 wizzyrea issues only keeps itemnumber?
14:58 kf oh
14:58 kf right!
14:58 kf very good then
14:58 kf should work
14:58 kf thx a lot :)
14:59 wizzyrea np np
15:09 kf wizzyrea++
15:10 wizzyrea kf++ (thanks for the help on the attach another patch)
15:11 kf heh
15:18 jcamins oleonard++ # for jQuery brilliance
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15:23 jcamins rhcl_imhere: lol
15:23 rhcl_imhere :)
15:26 jcamins rhcl_imhere: do you have a sense of whether the ASRock CPU/MB you linked to a while back would be sufficient for running Ubuntu and using it for light word processing/web surfing/e-mail/etc.?
15:27 rhcl_imhere Oh, I've been putting that project off. My tech assistant should be here w/in 4 minutes, I'll sic him on it.
15:27 jcamins rhcl_imhere: just wondering. I'm trying to put off buying my wife a new computer.
15:27 rhcl_imhere I have full confidence, however that it will work just fine.
15:27 rhcl_imhere We'll go ahead and load Koha on it too.
15:28 jcamins :)
15:28 maximep what cpu was it ?
15:28 rhcl_imhere and inport our library db
15:28 jcamins That was my sense, but it's been a while since I worried about hardward.
15:28 jcamins maximep: ASRock E350M1, I think.
15:28 jcamins (that's from memory, so I may have totally butchered it)
15:28 maximep great choice
15:29 maximep integrated gpu >>>>>>>> intel
15:29 rhcl_imhere ASRock w/ AMD dual-core Zacate CPU
15:29 maximep and the cpu is alright. Really the best mini itx, low power choice
15:30 maximep my old atom is a piece of shit compared to what amd does haha
15:30 jcamins Excellent. This makes me think I can get away with setting it up as my wife's main computer for a while.
15:31 rhcl_imhere for being mini-itx, it's got fair features -- 1 PCI slot, up to 16GB of DDR3 memory in 2 slots
15:32 rhcl_imhere I might note, however, this thing is reallly geared to being a storage server of some type--it has 8 or 9 hard drive slots.
15:32 jcamins rhcl_imhere: yeah, that's why I have to get one anyway.
15:33 jcamins I want to stick Ubuntu on one of our smaller drives and have her use that until we decide exactly what she needs in terms of a permanent computer.
15:33 rhcl_imhere[…]pc-q08/q08-30.jpg
15:33 rhcl_imhere you'll need to make sure you get a mini-itx power supply
16:05 hdl1 sekjal: I think you fixed bugs on branch_transfer_limits... didn't you ? Our master branch works in that matter. But seems really badly broken on 3.6
16:06 sekjal hdl1:  I don't think I touched branch_transfer_limits directly, no
16:06 * jcamins waves to hdl1 and sekjal.
16:06 hdl1 jcamins: ?
16:07 jcamins hdl1: hi.
16:07 jcamins hdl1: that's all.
16:07 hdl1 jcamins: have you ?
16:07 jcamins :)
16:07 jcamins Oh, touched branch_transfer_limits? Certainly not.
16:07 hdl1 thanks then.
16:07 * jcamins has very little to do with things circulatory.
16:07 hdl1 sekjal: ok. will redo what we did then.
16:08 kf hdl1: I have a bug open for branch transfer limits on master - I can't save changes
16:08 kf the display and select of libraries work now, but if you hit save nothing happens
16:09 kf bug 6842
16:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Branch transfer limits broken
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16:10 Aa Hi
16:10 Aa Hi
16:11 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5166] Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several functions a lib <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166>
16:12 reiveune1 bye
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16:13 hdl1 kf : thanks This is what I was working on.
16:13 hdl1 I thought there was already a fix.
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16:13 hdl1 I will try and solve that... tonight.
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16:15 kf hdl1: I tested the first patches and I agree with you
16:15 kf hdl1: I think it worked in between and was broken again somehow
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17:12 edveal Does anyone know how I can switch the positioning of the Nav and Tabs when a user is logged into the OPAC?
17:13 sekjal edveal: the left nav was recently split into two sysprefs, one that goes above the opac-user tabs, and the other below
17:13 edveal As it is when you add a list of links to the Nav area they push the user tabs down so they are not noticed without scrolling down.
17:13 edveal Cool I will take a look.
17:14 jcamins Huh. I missed that patch.
17:15 jcamins Nifty.
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17:26 cait back
17:26 sekjal any reason why CancelReserve shouldn't work on waiting/in transit holds?
17:27 jcamins sekjal: 'cause if you cancel a reserve that's waiting or in-transit, it never gets reclaimed by the staff?
17:28 cait hmm
17:28 cait why not? they would return it
17:28 cait to put it in the pickup shelf
17:28 cait or to cancel the hold... and then a new message would show if it has to go into transfer?
17:28 jcamins cait: I don't know. But that's the reason.
17:28 cait perhaps we need a new status then?
17:28 cait hold cancelled?
17:29 cait that requires checkin - resolving it to transfer or available?
17:29 sekjal actually, nevermind
17:29 sekjal I mis-read the code
17:29 sekjal it's not explicitly preventing that action.
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17:31 sekjal huh
17:32 jcamins sekjal: I thought it was supposed to be because someone objected to waiting and in-transit holds being cancelled.
17:32 sekjal if it is, it's handled outside the CancelReserve() subroutine
17:32 jcamins Could be.
17:35 wizzyrea well there is a problem where waiting and in transit holds get stuck
17:35 wizzyrea the "canceled hold in transit" bug
17:36 wizzyrea bug 3270
17:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3270 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cancelling a hold request after transfer initiated orphans item
17:36 wizzyrea which looks like it's been pushed so
17:49 rangi @wunder wellington nz
17:49 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (6:00 AM NZDT on December 22, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
17:49 wizzyrea a bit chilly
17:49 jcamins @wunder 11375
17:49 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 11.2�C (12:45 PM EST on December 21, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling).
17:49 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks
17:49 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 5.5�C (11:49 AM CST on December 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady).
17:49 wizzyrea hehe, warmer in queens!
17:50 wizzyrea (and good morning)
17:51 * tcohen often thinks of rewriting the whole rebuild_zebra thing from scratch
17:51 jcamins tcohen++
17:52 rangi its not a bad idea
17:52 tcohen is worth the trouble?
17:52 jcamins tcohen: if you have the time, it would definitely be worth the trouble.
17:53 cait @wunder Konstanz
17:53 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.4�C (6:49 PM CET on December 21, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady).
17:53 wizzyrea brr
17:53 rangi id leave the existing stuff alone, and start a brand new module
17:53 rangi in Koha:: namespace
17:53 cait brand_new_module++
17:53 rangi that way it wont collide
17:54 rangi and transition can be accomplished more easily
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18:21 brentATwidernetDOTorg chris_n, ques re instns for win32
18:22 jcamins brentATwidernetDOTorg: installing Koha on Windows is generally not recommended.
18:22 brentATwidernetDOTorg trying to install Net-Z..ZOOM per your instns on the wiki
18:23 jcamins brentATwidernetDOTorg: chris_n isn't around, and I don't think anyone else has done it.
18:23 brentATwidernetDOTorg OK, thanks
18:25 jcamins @seen chris_n
18:25 huginn jcamins: chris_n was last seen in #koha 4 days, 20 hours, 50 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: * chris_n waves by to the #koha peps
18:25 jcamins I don't think chris_n is around, anyway.
18:25 jcamins Yeah, I think he's probably on vacation this week.
18:33 brentATwidernetDOTorg hmm.  is there still a list that I could post to.
18:34 brentATwidernetDOTorg it looks like this one is dead:
18:35 jcamins brentATwidernetDOTorg: no, chris_n is the only person using Koha on Windows.
18:35 brentATwidernetDOTorg never mind. I found it
18:35 jcamins The last version that was supported on Windows was 2.something, and it's been years since it was supported.
18:36 jcamins brentATwidernetDOTorg: you're using Koha 3.6, right?
18:36 brentATwidernetDOTorg yes
18:36 brentATwidernetDOTorg he has instructions for 3.4
18:37 jcamins Good. Just checking.
18:37 brentATwidernetDOTorg I'm trying to incorporate koha into our digital lib package.  although we are working on an ubuntu version, right now most people want windows
18:38 jcamins And you can't use VirtualBox? That's definitely the easier method.
18:38 jcamins Ah.
18:38 brentATwidernetDOTorg It seems like the zoom/yaz libs are the main sticking point
18:39 brentATwidernetDOTorg his instructions are good but there is one cryptic line that I wanted to ask about
18:40 jcamins Which line? (it's unlikely I'll be able to help, but I'm curious)
18:42 brentATwidernetDOTorg well, you have to change the to point to yaz libs
18:42 brentATwidernetDOTorg then he says that you have to change the resulting make file as well
18:43 brentATwidernetDOTorg "append the path to the YAZ library to it"
18:43 jcamins Right.
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18:44 brentATwidernetDOTorg do you know what that means?
18:44 jcamins brentATwidernetDOTorg: astonishingly, yes.
18:44 jcamins One moment while I find the line you need.
18:44 fabio_t hi #koha!
18:45 brentATwidernetDOTorg I added this: LIBS = C:\pie\software\windows\YAZ\lib\yaz4.lib
18:45 brentATwidernetDOTorg but that was just a guess
18:46 jcamins I would think you needed to modify LDFLAGS to have -lC:...
18:47 rangi back
18:48 brentATwidernetDOTorg trying that now
18:48 jcamins brentATwidernetDOTorg: however, I should point out I haven't used a Makefile on win32 in about a decade.
18:49 rangi do ppl still even use that?
18:49 jcamins And I have every intention of being a half century man. ;)
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18:50 rangi @wunder wellington nz
18:50 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 22, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
18:51 magnuse @wunder boo
18:51 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (7:20 PM CET on December 21, 2011). Conditions: Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
18:51 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:51 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7�C (7:50 PM CET on December 21, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady).
18:51 rangi I see no clouds
18:51 magnuse rangi: that's not a lot to boast of for the height of summer?
18:51 rangi it'll get to 20
18:51 brentATwidernetDOTorg using this LDFLAGS = -s -L"C:\pie\software\windows\perl\perl\lib\CORE" -L"C:\pie\software\windows\perl\c\lib" -IC:\pie\software\windows\YAZ\lib\yaz4.lib
18:51 rangi its more like 13 now
18:51 brentATwidernetDOTorg same error tho
18:52 jcamins brentATwidernetDOTorg: that was a lower case ell.
18:52 * magnuse has 247 fuzzy strings left in the 3.6 nb staff translation (and 1869 untranslated)
18:52 cait you are a hero magnuse
18:52 cait magnuse++
18:52 rangi ohh nice work
18:53 rangi en nz is pretty much finished now too
18:55 magnuse yay
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18:55 brentATwidernetDOTorg jcamins: oh. thanks, but still same
18:55 rangi german was finished last year probably
18:55 magnuse noe of only someone could "bribe" eythian or srdjan into finnishing off the l10n work for the packages...
18:55 cait :P
18:55 magnuse cait++
18:56 cait I am all ready for 3.6
18:56 cait only fixing some glitches as i find them in the interface
18:56 cait 3.6.2
18:56 jcamins brentATwidernetDOTorg: no idea, then.
18:57 brentATwidernetDOTorg thanks for taking the time
18:57 jcamins Good luck.
18:57 rangi magnuse: unlikely to happen for a while too much paid work to do
18:57 magnuse ooh - mixed blessing ;-)
18:58 magnuse is there a maori translation, btw?
18:59 rangi my dad is finishing it off, there was for 3.0 and 3.2
18:59 jcamins rangi's_dad++
18:59 cait :)
18:59 magnuse yay!
19:00 magnuse "Your perl version seems to be obsolete. Please upgrade to a newer version of Perl (at least Version 5.006001)"
19:00 magnuse hm, is that correct?
19:00 rangi for 3.6
19:00 rangi 5.10
19:01 rangi wheres that coming from?
19:01 magnuse intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modu​les/installer/ apparently
19:02 rangi we should fix that then
19:02 brentATwidernetDOTorg by the way, this is timing out:
19:02 magnuse sounds like it
19:03 rangi hmm it was down, then up, now down again
19:03 magnuse[…]790ce;hb=HEAD#l52
19:04 cait oh :(
19:04 rangi seems like an easy patch
19:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7370] Longoverdue cronjob claims Undefined subroutine ::LostItem <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7370>
19:06 rangi thats an easy signoff too
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19:08 magnuse i can do the patch, but not today, so if anyone wants to beat me to it, feal free
19:08 rangi ok my stop
19:08 rangi bbiab
19:10 magnuse 200 fuzzy strings left
19:10 cait you can do it!
19:10 * cait cheers for magnuse
19:11 jcamins Go magnuse!
19:14 rangi back
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19:19 rangi sekjal:
19:19 rangi wouldnt a better fix be
19:19 rangi use C4::Circulation qw/LostItem/;
19:19 rangi ?
19:20 sekjal rangi:  that would also work... don't know if it's better or worse, and in what terms I'd measure that
19:20 rangi well its poor style to do C4::Circulation::LostItem
19:21 rangi because it hides the implicit use
19:21 sekjal ah
19:21 rangi if i counter patch it, you can sign off?
19:21 sekjal yes
19:21 rangi cool will do
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19:28 rangi done
19:28 magnuse 100 fuzzy strings to go
19:29 cait fast!
19:29 cait bokmal, right?
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19:31 cait hi trea
19:31 trea hi cait
19:31 trea how are you today?
19:31 cait ah good
19:31 cait and you? :)
19:31 sekjal rangi:  done
19:32 rangi sweet
19:33 rangi we might get chris_n to apply that for 3.6.2 .. since i dont think paul will be back before that releases
19:34 sekjal I'd certainly like it for 3.6.2, but having something in stable that's not yet in master is.... not so good
19:34 sekjal though with this particular fix
19:34 sekjal I'm sure it's fine
19:35 sekjal I leave it to the elected officials
19:36 magnuse 50
19:36 jcamins magnuse++
19:36 magnuse cait: yup bokm�l!
19:40 magnuse 25
19:41 cait !
19:41 wizzyrea cait: bug 6323 I think should be ok now?
19:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6323 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Attach/move items -- error handling cleanup
19:41 cait will  check :)
19:43 rangi 57!
19:43 rangi can we get below 50 by 2012!
19:44 magnuse done
19:45 cait of course we can
19:45 cait I will fail some more :P
19:45 magnuse 1869 untranslated to go, but that is for another day...
19:45 magnuse i will do some signing off before the year is out
19:45 magnuse maybe not this week, but definitely next
19:46 jcamins "Have I got the patch for you? Wait 'til you see it! Have I got the patch for you? Boy oh boy..."
19:47 cait ?
19:47 jcamins cait: it's a butchering of a line from the Sondheim musical "Company."
19:48 cait oh
19:48 magnuse hehe
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19:55 wizzyrea where's our favorite bot?
19:55 wizzyrea wahanui?
19:55 * wizzyrea misses him
19:55 cait omg
19:55 cait yes
19:55 cait wahanui!
19:55 rangi ill ping eythian to restart him
19:55 wizzyrea yay ty!
19:55 cait ty!
19:56 wizzyrea rangi++
20:02 magnuse have fun #koha!
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20:02 rangi cya magnus_afk
20:03 cait bye magnus_afk
20:03 magnus_afk :-)
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20:21 rangi coffee time brb
20:21 rhcl_imhere it's always coffee time
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20:23 wizzyrea hm, items with only one item missing their edit link? the click to edit is still working but
20:24 wizzyrea
20:25 wizzyrea weird, I edited the item and the link showed up again
20:25 wizzyrea and it stayed there
20:29 rangi back
20:33 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7031] More options for AdvancedSearchTypes <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7031>
20:33 rangi @wunder wellington nz
20:33 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on December 22, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
20:34 rangi getting better
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20:34 wizzyrea can anyone confirm this on master - in multibranch system only the current branch is shown for either permanent or current location in edit items
20:35 wizzyrea i just checked and independent branches isn't on
20:36 rangi hmm
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20:37 rangi the drop down only has that one?
20:37 * rangi checks
20:38 wizzyrea yea, it's weird.
20:38 rangi looking now
20:38 rangi hmm so it does
20:39 rangi in 3.6.1 too
20:39 rangi how odd
20:39 wizzyrea O.O
20:39 * rangi will track it down
20:39 * wizzyrea will file a bug
20:39 rangi hang fire a sec
20:39 sekjal wizzyrea: I'm getting the full list
20:39 wizzyrea ^^ is even weirder.
20:40 wizzyrea is there a new preference?
20:40 rangi you have a library set eh sekjal?
20:40 * wizzyrea does
20:40 rangi cos i only get the library im set to showing in both master and 3.6.1
20:40 sekjal I do
20:40 wizzyrea in mine it's almost like indy branches is set
20:40 wizzyrea but it's off
20:41 sekjal confirming:  this is catalouging/
20:41 wizzyrea ok, rangi
20:41 wizzyrea double check your independent branches
20:42 rangi hmm
20:42 rangi yes
20:42 wizzyrea because I am pretty sure that I didn't turn it on - but it was set to "prevent"
20:42 rangi oh
20:42 rangi yes it was on
20:42 rangi and i definitely didnt turn that on, not conciously
20:42 wizzyrea ^^ same
20:43 sekjal mine was on initially and consciously
20:43 sekjal turned it off, with no change
20:43 sekjal but turning it back on...
20:43 sekjal kaboom
20:43 rangi hmm
20:43 wizzyrea yea, there is something going on there
20:43 rangi yeah with that off
20:43 rangi it works
20:43 wizzyrea it works now
20:44 rangi hmm
20:44 wizzyrea i can't be 100% sure that I didn't turn it on, but I *am* about 90% sure that I didn't.
20:45 rangi yeah
20:45 rangi me too
20:45 wizzyrea i haven't been testing anything that would require it
20:46 rangi im testing on hlt db, and they definitely dont run with it on
20:46 rangi weird
20:46 rangi well a copy of their db that is
20:46 sekjal preference deleted?
20:47 sekjal so the Prevent would be the default value in the editor?
20:47 wizzyrea hmm
20:47 rangi that might have been it
20:47 wizzyrea the new db update procedures?
20:48 rangi cant see anything set to delete it
20:48 wizzyrea let me load up my test db
20:48 wizzyrea (other) test db :P
20:49 sekjal cataloguing/ lines 600-610 or so look relevant
20:50 wizzyrea right, so
20:50 wizzyrea i'm looking at my test db
20:50 wizzyrea according to the syspref page
20:50 wizzyrea it's set to prevent
20:50 wizzyrea but
20:50 wizzyrea I still see everything in the list
20:50 wizzyrea which is the opposite of what was happening before
20:51 sekjal what's the value in the systempreference table?
20:51 rangi hmm yeah thats all pretty old tho sekjal
20:51 * wizzyrea will check
20:51 rangi feb was the latest change
20:52 sekjal it really feels like this is a value-changing-out-from-underneath-us issue
20:53 sekjal very unlikely that a patch from february just got committed
20:54 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7373] new bridge icons <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7373>
20:54 wizzyrea the syspref in my test db is currently set to 1
20:55 wizzyrea flipping it changed it to 0
20:55 wizzyrea seems right
20:55 wizzyrea but - i'm still not sure I turned it on
20:57 wizzyrea furthermore - turning it back to 1 doesn't prevent me from seeing the whole list
20:57 rangi yeah
20:57 rangi something fishy going on
20:57 wizzyrea it's not even backwards, it's just not working?!
20:58 wizzyrea well and does independent branches even allow you to change your logged in branch?
20:58 wizzyrea I guess it does if you're a superlibrarian
21:00 wizzyrea right, that part is ok - a staff user without superlibrarian (but everything else) cannot switch branches
21:01 wizzyrea ohh kay this officially makes no sense at all.
21:01 wizzyrea perhaps you need a log out/in to fully apply independent branches?
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21:16 wizzyrea hrmph I don't have any saved test db's that are old enough to need the last database update.
21:17 rangi hmm
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21:35 sekjal wizzyrea:  something about the GetBranchesLoop ?
21:35 sekjal and "onlymine"?
21:36 wizzyrea hm
21:37 sekjal what do your user permissions look like?
21:37 sekjal = 1?
21:37 wizzyrea I haven't been able to replicate it once I set and re-set the preference
21:38 wizzyrea so not sure how it got that way!
21:38 sekjal bug 6885?
21:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6885 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Superlibrarian users can't delete items from another library when IndependantBranches
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21:40 sekjal no, not that one
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21:40 wizzyrea i almost always use a superlibrarian user - I did have a weird anomaly earlier where the edit links didn't show up the first time I tried to edit an item
21:40 wizzyrea it's a bewildering afternoon. :(
21:42 wizzyrea bug 6802
21:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6802 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , with IndependantBranches  on can still edit items
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21:45 eythian hello wahanui
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21:46 cait hi eythian
21:46 cait thx for bringing back wahanui :)
21:46 eythian hello cait
21:46 eythian any time
21:47 jcamins_away eythian: what's left to get translations working with packages?
21:47 eythian jcamins_away: really just testing I think.
21:47 jcamins_away eythian: oh, cool.
21:47 eythian It's something I'd like to have quite solid before it's included.
21:48 eythian oh, I think I want to also have a look at the way the build process has been changed, it's a fair bit slower now and I want to see if that can be fixed.
21:48 jcamins_away Right, but there's no development needed so far as you know, just testing it thoroughly?
21:48 eythian mostly, yeah
21:49 jcamins_away So there's nothing to prevent me making my own packages with working translations?
21:49 eythian nope
21:49 jcamins_away (using the code from Catalyst's git repo)
21:49 eythian It should be fine
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21:51 jcamins_away Great, thanks!
21:51 * jcamins_away closes up shop.
21:52 mbalmer evening
21:53 cait good night all :)
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22:24 mbalmer some guys are really thick when it comes to not introducing new MySQLisms...
22:25 rangi some people are really rude when it comes to common courtesies
22:26 mbalmer I don't get you.  Why insist on adding new mysqlisms which are absolutely not needed?
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22:26 rangi i dont get you, why act like a jerk in order to badly try to make a point
22:26 mbalmer come one.
22:27 mbalmer thats below my level.
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22:27 rangi yeah, and calling someone thick is appropriate
22:29 sekjal mbalmer:  if you're referring to Srdjan's patches on the list this morning, he's following the requested community practice for consistency
22:29 sekjal I realized that it adds a bit of additional work to your Postgres project
22:30 sekjal this does seem like something that could be cleaned up with a script, though, so long as we're consistent
22:31 rangi also the patches were created months/weeks ago
22:31 rangi they have just been rebased
22:35 wizzyrea thin skinned that one.
22:35 wizzyrea but expects everyone else to be tough as nails
22:35 rangi i thought jerk was mild compared to thick, stupid and retarded, but i probably shouldnt have said it
22:37 sekjal his behaviour in channel has been less than civil
22:37 ibeardslee rangi: some content for the "how not to be a jerk" for the academy? ;)
22:38 rangi :)
22:38 rangi also, using myself as an example i shoulda just left jerk out, it was unneeded
22:39 rangi he's right about postgres being the better db, but ... there's ways and means :)
22:39 wizzyrea with a little better presentation he might have gotten some traction here.
22:40 chrisdothall him being right doesnt give him the right to behave in such ways.
22:40 wizzyrea (no doubt about it, really)
22:40 ibeardslee yeap .. I thought he was a bit opinionated and to some degree confrontational about it
22:40 wizzyrea "you're not wrong, walter, you're just an asshole!" (to quote the big lebowski)
22:40 wizzyrea oh, sorry. I said the A word.
22:41 rangi that is a great movie
22:41 wizzyrea it is wonderful.
22:41 * sekjal has forwarded him a link to the next meeting agenda wiki page
22:41 * wizzyrea thinks sekjal is a very nice person
22:42 wizzyrea woot woot[…]ransformer-series
22:46 * ibeardslee wants one of those
22:46 mtj i just wish you herd of clueless fuckers would wake up and admit that oracle is teh best database ever
22:47 mtj </kidding>
22:48 * mtj has had to much cheap chocolate today, oops :p
22:48 rangi heh
22:48 rangi there's cheap egg nog going
22:48 rangi at the hawthorn lounge
22:49 rangi
22:50 mtj i've never even tried egg-nog before  (i always thought it had raw eggs in it)
22:50 rangi it might?
22:50 rangi i have no idea
22:51 mtj yow, it does :/ ->
22:51 rangi this one has alcohol, quite a lot of alcohol
22:52 wizzyrea doesn't have to
22:52 wizzyrea i mean, usually it's cooked kind of like a custard
22:52 rangi not have alcohol? .. .whats the point in that?
22:52 wizzyrea no no
22:52 wizzyrea eggs
22:52 rangi ahh
22:52 rangi phew
22:52 rangi i thought you had gone mad
22:52 wizzyrea no I agree - eggnog is not right without alcohol
22:53 mtj hmm, milk, booze and frothy eggs sounds messy
22:53 * wizzyrea remembers putting non-alcoholic egg nog on her cereal once as a kid
22:53 wizzyrea it was... unpleasant
22:53 rangi heh
22:53 wizzyrea but
22:53 wizzyrea egg nog is good.
22:53 * sekjal doesn't care for it
22:54 sekjal hot chocolate (perhaps with creme de menthe) is my winter drink of choice
22:54 wizzyrea mmmmm
22:54 wizzyrea spud recently discovered hot cocoa
22:54 rangi its summer!
22:54 * wizzyrea gets out the mai tais for the folks down south
22:54 rangi :)
22:55 wizzyrea longest day of the year! ;)
22:55 * sekjal is headed south next week, though only as far as Florida
22:55 sekjal should buy me an extra hour or two of daylight a day, though
22:55 wizzyrea mtj: Some recipes for homemade eggnog call for egg yolks to be cooked with milk into a custard to avoid potential hazards from raw eggs; eggnog has much in common with classic custard-pudding recipes that do not call for corn starch, and many eggnogs can also be cooked into egg-custard puddings.
22:55 wizzyrea ^^ is how I would do it
22:55 wizzyrea if I were making it myself.
22:56 wizzyrea but usually, I just get it out of a carton :P
22:57 wizzyrea alright, later peeps.
22:57 rangi cya wizzyrea
23:03 magnus_afk g'night #koha
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23:08 sekjal best wishes to you all!   I'll be back in 2012.
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